mliencheng wrote:

路過一mod

不好意思換電腦了 mod格式隨便一點

[ stu's Oni ]

00:15:457 - 我覺得後面那個k就好 這個可以放d以凸顯後面的高音 ok. 滿多人有提出來的

00:25:957 - k , 他音跟前面的音一樣 所以建議放k 好owob

01:11:374 - 跟 01:10:041 一樣的音, 可以加個k? 那我把 01:10:707也一併砍掉 前後都有對到

01:12:707 - 高音, k? 那邊我跟鼓音 如果要改那 01:13:374 也要一起改 先保留

Xay wrote:

Hi, I got here through stu's userpage. Giving mod because I want to learn and need kds!!

I will try to write in simple english, but I am sorry if it is difficult to understand.


[General]

BGs: OK
Offset: OK
MP3: OK (I think?)


[Kantan]

I am bad at modding Kantan, but I think this diff is good. Thanks


[Futsuu]

00:03:922 (7) - k here, because voice is similar to 00:00:836 (1,2) changed!

00:18:541 - remove d here? triplets seem good enough okay c:

00:38:874 (57,58) - k d sounds better to me changed!

00:47:207 onward is good changed!


[Muzukashii]

00:04:436 - k here because of 00:01:522 (4,5,6) I'm following vocal here//

00:21:541 (31,32,33,34,35,36) - Suggestion:

no change. i think original is good.

00:46:207 (131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139) - Suggestion:

keep. dont want kkd in this diff.

00:54:374 (176,177,178,179,180,181,182) - I would change these patterns so they are not identical to 00:53:207 (169,170,171,172,173,174,175). Maybe something like this?

Changed but i want to aviod ddk
01:19:374 (298) - k here? keep. there's no high pitch or what


[Oni]

00:16:041 (12) - d here, just like at 00:18:541 (22,23,24,25,26) keep to have some variety..

I do not want to destroy patterns in this map because I think they are good.


I hope this helps, good luck everyone!!

Xay wrote:

Hi, I got here through stu's userpage. Giving mod because I want to learn and need kds!!

I will try to write in simple english, but I am sorry if it is difficult to understand.


[stu's Oni]

00:14:458 - d here to emphasize drums stronger It's no sound here so :/

01:01:874 (311) - k maybe to follow flow of 01:00:374 (300,301,302,303) ? keep

01:06:874 (346,347) - make both notes k, because I think that makes this stream more fun

Can't find more, map is fun I think it's unnecessary :/

nothing changed but still thank you !!

I hope this helps, good luck everyone!!

Skylish wrote:

From my modding queue. Sorry for waiting so long since I am too busy irl ;w;.

[General]

> 00:00:494 - Using HS:S is too soft for Taiko HS in most cases. The music genre or dynamic of song does not support for a Soft Hitsound obviously. You may use HS:N 40~50% (the setting in Stu's Oni) instead of using HS:S 75%. (In 99% cases Taiko maps use HS:N) Ok I changed this. N 50%

[Kantan]

! 00:00:494 - not really recommended to use any SV changes in Kantan even it's just 90%. Consider remove it, except you have very strong rationale behind. changed! i dont really know about this xD

> 00:16:541 - you can remove this note for the sake of consistency at 00:18:207 (7,8,9) - , and showing a better note spread with Futsuu as well. ok i see. changed!

> 00:44:874 - Finish is available right here to state it per 2 bars. yea right!

> 00:59:374 - umm, how about shifting it 1/2 forward to 00:59:541 - , so as to fit your previous mapping style in Kiai (having the note hit on the on beat instead of the exact vocal timing)? changed!

> 01:02:207 - V / 01:02:707 - V / 01:16:874 - V Finish them, strong instrumental accompaniment.

[Futsuu]

> 00:21:202 - shifting it to 00:20:541 - seems better. Then you will have constant nnn nnn nnn pattern from 00:16:207 - to 00:20:874 - . (00:21:207 - no need to worry about missing a drum kick here since the D at 00:20:874 - dominates the music there, that's fine.) alright!

> 00:58:207 (104) - you definitely missed a Finish here. added!

> 01:00:374 - unnecessary note breaks your consistent vocal mapping channel, remove it. deleted

> 01:03:541 - / 01:04:874 - / 01:06:207 - Finisher of coz ~_~ added all

> 01:07:874 - It's a potential Finisher due to the high-pitch drum kick. I see you used it in　Oni only, you may make this timing consistent in all of your difficulties. added finisher

> 01:14:541 (144,145,146) - they should be N n N because of the drum set. The instrumental part seems having a bigger dynamic here, although the melody goes to the piano. ok.. following drums now

[Muzukashii]

> 00:22:207 - shiting it to 00:21:707 - can be more consistent to 00:16:207 (9,10,11) - / 00:17:541 (14,15,16) - these patterns. Meanwhile, shifting this note can also emphasize the expression of melody-mapping. alright. changed!

> 00:36:541 - Change it to k for emphasizing the upcoming Dons, matching 1st & 3rd beat drum kick? i think this is a low pitch drum sound. keep this. upcoming Dons are already have finisher to emphase.

> 00:57:791 - shifting it to 00:57:624 - so as to let the vocal start outstandingly at 00:57:874 - ? changed!

> 01:03:541 - / 01:04:874 - / 01:06:207 - / all Finishers should be used right here lol added

> 01:07:874 - it depends what are you going to change in Futsuu, either using Finisher or normal note is fine added same as futsuu

> 01:14:541 - same case in Futsuu, I am pretty confused about the usage of Finisher here. I can understand that you want to emphasize the strong piano fz chord by using Fnishers, but on the other sides, you neglect the drum elements which should be more famailiarized actually in Taiko mapping. Therefore, how about k KK D ---> K kk D ?

[Oni]

> 00:20:874 - You missed a Finish here added

> 00:23:541 - inappropriate and unclear usage of Finish here. The obvious one should be at 00:24:874 - , not 00:23:541 - . Remove the latter's Finish please, the piano chord or drum set cannot support its existence. removed finisher

> 00:25:874 - actually you can just map what you did in Muzukashii right here, ddd suit the low-pitch drum hit triplet. kkd seems a bit weird, I can't exactly tell where it's strange though. i think 1st and 2nd drum pitch are higher than 3rd one. keep this.

> 00:26:207 - another missing Finish added;-;

> 00:26:374 - You may remove it to create a space to make the spotlight shed on the vocal. Take ref. at 00:28:707 - / 00:31:707 - removed!

> 00:36:124 - adding a kat here to form a triplet to show better note spread with Muzukashii added and changed ddd to kkk in muzu

> 00:36:541 - same advice in other difficulties, changing it to kat? i think this is low pitch drum. keep

> 00:37:707 - / 00:40:374 - / 00:43:041 - small notes fit better since they can emphasize the upcoming K/D yea changed!

> 00:46:624 - you may remove this note to redue the length of this stream (it's too long for Oni but okay for Inner Oni). Meanwhile, the drum kick at 00:46:541 - can be specified with its end. alright! changed!

> 00:48:791 - / 00:54:124 - Remove it since two consecutive 5-plets seems too much in the whole Oni. I like this and want to keep this... and this diff is like a harder oni than other GD's Oni, idk if i need to change this to inner oni.


> 00:51:374 - / 00:56:707 - be consistent! Finish is not really needed ok removed!

> 01:14:207 - How about kkd K? The following suggestion at 01:14:874 (377,378,379) - would be the same in Muzukashii. changed!

Skylish wrote:

[Fan's Oni]

> 00:00:494 - I feel like the upcoming gap is too big. How about adding a kat at 00:01:179 - ? (though I know that you are trying to follow the instrumental part very strictly) i agree.. but...m.... i feel little strange? :thinking:
> 00:14:036 - ineffective green timing point, you may remove it. oh no i didnt notice it DX

> 00:17:207 (55,56,57,58,59) - sounds a bit dull, maybe putting a note at 00:17:291 - would be richer in terms of patterns add kdd

> 00:22:041 - using ddd triplet to fill up the gap to map the instrumental part as well? It seems you are going to match all things.... m......ok? add it

> 00:24:707 - this little part is very strange here: 00:24:874 - / 00:25:374 - they share the same dynamic but you used different patterns to display them. The former is loud enough for a Finisher, try not to waste it if possible... How about something like this? 00:24:707 - After listening carefull ... oh no , i do mix drum and violin? patterns D:::::: , change it

> 00:36:541 - same in other difficulties, change it to a kat? i feel d is better
> 01:06:207 - it is as same as 01:16:874 - in terms of structure, let them be consistent (either normal note/ Big note)
why i feel strange after u say????_?_? some kind of end finish feel *fix other big notes
> 01:15:374 - cymbal crash here same as 01:14:541 - , Finish is needed consequently 01:14:541 -is much more lower?
but i think that would be good feel in playing? ((change but if there are any comment

Skylish wrote:

[Stu's Oni]

> 00:10:779 - you may add a d here because you start mapping piano since 00:08:722 - I'm following the vocal D:

> 00:46:207 - this stream is way too long, cut it down please.... Similar at Oni's case, how about removing 00:46:624 - ? no , since this diff was a Inner Oni so I want to keep it

> 00:59:541 (292,293,294) - sounds unnecessary and cannot show the similar gap like what you did at 00:56:874 - / 00:51:541 - , consider remove these 3 notes. 00:59:707 here is a drum sound , if i del that 3 notes it will be more weird so I keep it

> 01:06:207 - completely over-mapped stream, nerf it already. You may use K ddd K this rhythm back again until 01:07:541 - . For example 01:06:207 (1) - : no , same as 00:46:207

> 01:16:874 - missing Finish, add it back no , for that isn't a loud sound

> 01:19:707 - ddk does not fit that single guitar chord ending to be very honest. A simple D + spinner / single spinner ending is good to go. fixed it

[]
thank you

There should be more to be polished in GDs, get a few more mods and feedback, then find me again. Good luck from now on.

• 
  Hi Fantazy o/

1. 00:01:522 (2) - this note is a little unnecesary since you're totally following piano on the intro :p
2. 00:06:494 (15) - same as above, you could delete them :p (suggestion ofc)
3. 00:11:979 (29) - ^ and make this 00:12:151 (30) - don according to piano pitch (almost same as next note)
4. What about deleting 00:18:707 (65,66) - and making atriple on 00:19:207 - according to rhythm and to have consistency?
5. Kiai is fine but notes like 00:52:874 (248) - finishing on big white lines are a little strange (about consistency)
6. 01:14:541 (377) - big note why? D:
7. 01:17:207 (391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398,399,400) - what about using d d k d d d k d d d on singletaps? Sounds better imo ^^

1. 00:03:751 (11,12) - what about using ctrl+g according to vocals? I think it feels like this pattern: 00:01:522 (4,5,6) - sounds same as the second one but isn't at all :p
2. 00:57:541 (276,277,278,279,280,281,282) - this one could fit better at ddkkddk to emphatise more next kat. If you use lot of kat it loses the emphasis imo
3. 01:19:291 (422) - try a don here, current kkdk at finishing stream is kind strange

xfraczynho wrote:

Hey kata o/ modding your GD's as req :p

[stu's Oni]

1. 00:03:751 (11,12) - what about using ctrl+g according to vocals? I think it feels like this pattern: 00:01:522 (4,5,6) - sounds same as the second one but isn't at all :p I don't think kdk will better than kkd , so keep D:
2. 00:57:541 (276,277,278,279,280,281,282) - this one could fit better at ddkkddk to emphatise more next kat. If you use lot of kat it loses the emphasis imo fixed it
3. 01:19:291 (422) - try a don here, current kkdk at finishing stream is kind strange

I think it's normal XD
I just hope it can helps you boys (you too kata xD). Nice mapset; I'm sure this will get ranked soon so GL!Thank you <333

xfraczynho wrote:

[Fan's Oni]

• 
  Hi Fantazy o/ O/

1. 00:01:522 (2) - this note is a little unnecesary since you're totally following piano on the intro :p =A=? but if delete will make tooo much space?
2. 00:06:494 (15) - same as above, you could delete them :p (suggestion ofc) =3=
3. 00:11:979 (29) - ^ and make this 00:12:151 (30) - don according to piano pitch (almost same as next note) sound not bad 00:12:151 (30) - change d and 31 change k but 00:12:151 (30,31) - are different =A=
4. What about deleting 00:18:707 (65,66) - and making atriple on 00:19:207 - according to rhythm and to have consistency?
   m....?_? i followed the drum and little highlight these single drums 00:19:541 (70,71) -
5. Kiai is fine but notes like 00:52:874 (248) - finishing on big white lines are a little strange (about consistency) ah....eh...mh....mah? ?A?A?A? i make Unite for 00:47:541 (211) - 00:52:874 (247) - 00:58:207 (283) - add finish and no note after 1/2
6. 01:14:541 (377) - big note why? D:D::::::::::: ?W? IDKwww 01:14:874 (377,380) - change these finish
7. 01:17:207 (391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398,399,400) - what about using d d k d d d k d d d on singletaps? Sounds better imo ^^ not bad but... i steel wana highlight this part 01:18:207 - of going higher?

jacky10186 wrote:

[Fan's Oni]然後我最喜歡的是: 笨笨fanfan 的副歌 真的很完美

jacky10186 wrote:

被kata拖來的(? 新手modder一枚 較注重整體架構與聲音搭配 只會做Oni 所以只Mod Oni @@

[共同部分]

01:20:041 - 01:24:874 這個轉盤 最後有對好嗎?我是感覺沒對好啦 我覺der有對到就是了 後面反而沒對到keep
如果跟鼓聲應該要到 01:24:957 後面沒差了吧 討厭轉盤後面突然來個什麼鬼的 陷阱喔keep
如果跟吉他應該要到 01:25:041 ?A?

[Oni]

很完美 尤其前奏是三張Oni難度中最好的 最爛的難度.w.!

建議: 00:48:791 和 00:54:124 可以刪掉 這個就沒改了 我覺得不用刪拉 keep




希望可以幫助rk~ 吃飯去

Smallwu wrote:

jacky10186 wrote:

[Fan's Oni]然後我最喜歡的是: 笨笨fanfan 的副歌 真的很完美

jacky10186 wrote:

[Fan's Oni]

雖然不建議前面跟鋼琴 但是前面既然跟了 後面 01:08:874 - to the end 建議也跟鋼琴,不用跟鼓聲 額額額 基本上是根鼓聲比較好

00:14:874 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46) - 我是覺得3.7星的難度,可以再把這個長串簡化一點,用鼓聲為基底,不用全跟到也可以(看個人) 對於這難度來說.. 這建議 有意思? ?__? 我改成 ddddk kdk

00:26:541 - 00:28:541 建議也可以不要跟後面相同放法,可以更凸顯後面00:29:207 - 00:31:207
( ex. 00:26:541 - 00:28:541 改成ddk_d_k_d_kdk 底線/d/k為1/2 ) 不太喜歡 這裡是有一些的mirror mode

然後我最喜歡的是: 笨笨fanfan 的副歌 真的很完美 ?_?_?_?_?__?_?_?_?_?

1. 1698x1199: Fan's Oni BG resolution, try to adjust to 1920x1200/1366x768 (would be nicer since other diff used this) if possible
2. If stu's Oni isn't using 'Khlby6N' file then delete it
3. Fan's Oni: 00:14:208 - use 60% on this redline, isn't neccesary to have 70%
4. stu's Oni: 00:00:494 -

1. 00:00:494 - 00:12:836 - consider adding some notes, i know you want to make this part calm but spread is affected; muzu is a lot denser than this D:
   example:
   

1. 01:07:624 (355,356) - just ctrl+g on these, kdkdk seems inaccurate

1. 00:44:707 - add a note here, it feels so empty
2. I'm not a fan of overmapping stuff, but it would be nice if you make an stream 01:06:207 , so you make a good kiai ending like on stu's oni

jacky10186 wrote:

[stu's Oni]

00:33:791 - 這個放在00:33:207 - 00:34:207 中的哪裡節奏聽起來都怪怪的,所以我建議可以分段
( ex. 00:33:207 - 00:34:207 可以改成k_d___d_k_ddk 底線/d/k為1/4 )
00:33:791 這邊其實背景有一個不太明顯的鈀音在 前兩顆kd我改了 後面的部份我先保留 owob


01:06:207 (338,339,340,341,342,343,344,345,346,347,348,349,350,351,352,353,354,355,356,357,358) - 這段在4.02星有點超過,建議可以簡化...
媽ㄉ一切都是osu評星數太爛QQ 我改了 =>

我最喜歡stu大大的副歌部分喔 ^^ 過獎了 謝謝你~

xfraczynho wrote:

stu's Oni:

1. 01:07:624 (355,356) - just ctrl+g on these, kdkdk seems inaccurate

I simplified that with the mod which jacky10186 wroted , thank you~

xfraczynho wrote:

hey some things to point in!

1. 1698x1199: Fan's Oni BG resolution, try to adjust to 1920x1200/1366x768 (would be nicer since other diff used this) if possible changed
2. If stu's Oni isn't using 'Khlby6N' file then delete it deleted. it's my mistake.
   
   Oni:
   
   1. 00:44:707 - add a note here, it feels so empty yes, added here.
   2. I'm not a fan of overmapping stuff, but it would be nice if you make an stream 01:06:207 , so you make a good kiai ending like on stu's oni made some change here,

it looks nice! call me if when you apply!

xfraczynho wrote:

Fan's Oni:

1. 00:00:494 - 00:12:836 - consider adding some notes, i know you want to make this part calm but spread is affected; muzu is a lot denser than this D:
   example:
   

Anyway adding, I feel very strange, idk how to add more

Skylish wrote:

[Fan's Oni]

> 0,100 can show Emilia's whole head, consider shifting the BG down 20 digits more. change

! 00:00:494 - Again, HS:S is strongly discouraged in any circumstances unless a soft sample really fits the music. While, the introduction consists of common piano melodies (which you are following to) and vocals, HS:N with a lower vol. is good enough. ok...also xfrac's advice, change to such as otther diff's pattern

> 00:36:207 - change it to k for a better colour-change trend. feel d better

> 01:15:374 - same cymbal crash with 01:14:541 - , but missing a Finisher hm...i thought here lots of times, K is a bad feeling 01:14:874 - change to k k d D

> 01:20:041 - consider adding some diminuendo SVs for the weakening dynamic of guitar chords, like the settings in Oni. 100% is too loud. oops, i missed it 01:19:874 - delete D, and add Oni's audio

Skylish wrote:

Re-checklish

[General]

! All diff.es except stu's Oni: 01:07:541 - / 01:07:874 - K K did not show a great instrast within those bass drum kick and drum bass kick with cymbal crash. D K would work better. changed all D K

! Oni's': Consider unifying the SV changes in the introduction part. Will ask stu and fan. edit: unify to 0.8x

[Kantan]

> 00:00:494 - redundant green timing point, you can remove it directly since SV=1.00 here. removed it.

[Futsuu]

> 00:00:494 - not recommended to use any SV changes until Muzukashii okay, remove greenline here.

> 00:31:207 (39,40) - ctrl+G (k d) seems matching the pitch flow better. yeah, seems nice.

> 00:44:207 - k for consistent drum kicks, same as 00:38:874 - / 00:41:874 - changed.

> 01:06:707 (123,124) - how about d k here to show a variation? 2 repeated K k d are enough I guess, at 01:03:541 - / 01:04:874 - . K d k at 01:06:207 - can display a nice colour flow with the suggestion at 01:07:541 - okay, nice variation.

> 01:19:374 - where's the d ;w;? Repeated doublets usage is expected. yes, added it.

[Muzukashii]

> 00:44:374 - remove it to clear the mapping channel and create a distinguishment between vocal gaps seems nice, i changed it.

> 01:14:541 - you missed a Finisher? ohh yes, fixed it.

[Oni]

> 01:07:374 (341,342) - k D? refers to the general part Fixed.

> 01:15:041 - Unify the usage of Finisher with Muzukashii and Fixed.



[]

I am in probation tier now (I cannot qualify beatmap). I will re-bubble again, when things are settled, and let frac qualify it later. Call me back when everything is confirmed.

Thank you Skylish

Skylish wrote:

Re-checklish

[stu's Oni]

> 00:54:541 - change it to k for a better flow, common drum kick is expected
Taht's my mistake :O I changed 00:54:707 to k like how I made at 00:49:041

> 00:59:541 - remove this triplet for spacing, the whole section after 00:58:207 - lacks a glimpse of space and rest.
I keep the note at 00:59:707

> 01:07:541 - not sure why those kats are spammed. Perhaps you want to map the high-pitch piano chords at the backgroud layer. If that's the case, somewhat the kat usages should show nice contrasts and consistencies:

< 01:07:707 - a small kat to show the cymbal crash at 01:07:874 - Now It's "K k K k"
< 01:08:207 - kdkdk for consistent places of kat spams Fixed


> 01:14:541 - missing Finisher Fixed

[]

I am in probation tier now (I cannot qualify beatmap). I will re-bubble again, when things are settled, and let frac qualify it later. Call me back when everything is confirmed.

Skylish wrote:

A few things before I bubble:

[Stu's Oni]

> 01:16:874 - I forgot to mention this timing How'bout a Finisher as well? It shares the same cymbal crash with 01:14:541 - / 01:15:374 - . A similar Finisher note is expected.
In that case , I think 01:17:374 and 01:17:541 should be K together , but that also weird too
the K 01:14:541 here due to the drum sound at 01:14:207 (382,383,384) , so I keep 01:16:874 here k

These should be all, call me back later when things are settled.

Skylish wrote:

[Fan's Oni]

> 00:00:494 - why is here still HS:S? Are you compromised with HS:N, otherwise please explain the rationale behind of strong determination in using soft hitsamples. ehh...my shit english, i was thought that is mean about the piano pattern, and idk when why how these 2 audio become HS:S :thinking:

Skylish wrote:

A few things before I bubble:

[Muzukashii]

> 00:00:494 - Fix SV=0.8x if you are for consistency. i thought 0.9x would be nice in muzu. Anyway, i changed for consistency.

[Oni]

> 01:07:374 - not sure if you want to keep it as d or k, both work fine from my point of view. change to k, feels better i think.

[]

These should be all, call me back later when things are settled.

xfraczynho wrote:

Talking with Skylish about spread between F-M I'd suggest something

K-F-M is pretty good imo both of them increases on a 2x~ objects amount, but I think Muzu could have a little less notes to have a good K-F-M-O:

[Muzukashii]
Suggest to:
00:51:041 (159) - delete according vocals
00:56:374 (188) - ^
01:09:707 (252) - kat and 01:09:874 (253) - delete, would follow piano and doesn't break the spread with fut
01:11:041 (258,259) - 01:12:374 (264,265) - similar
Fixed them all
that's what i suggest, wouldn't break any gap and makes something different here :')

xfraczynho wrote:

Yes, the title is actually Incomplete START according to http://krtgirls.wixsite.com/initiating-station/staff. Every metadata comes from here.
Let me know when you update it

SPOILER

Kurai wrote:

xfraczynho wrote:

Yes, the title is actually Incomplete START according to http://krtgirls.wixsite.com/initiating-station/staff. Every metadata comes from here.
Let me know when you update it

Hey, I don't see anywhere written on that page that the Romanisation of the title should be "Incomplete START". It's only written "未完成START" and no Romanisation is provided. I couldn't find any official Romanisation anywhere else. Shouldn't the title be Romanise to "Mikansei START" instead?

SPOILER

Tbh i based on
that's actually more accurate as incomplete than unfinished, as you can see on

(Incomplete it's actually the nearest word).
That's basically why I allowed that more than Unfinished START, also this doesn't seem like it's the same song according to lyrics
I think katacheh could be more accurate, let's wait for his reply, that's all what i can say atm

Kurai wrote:

xfraczynho wrote:

Yes, the title is actually Incomplete START according to http://krtgirls.wixsite.com/initiating-station/staff. Every metadata comes from here.
Let me know when you update it

Hey, I don't see anywhere written on that page that the Romanisation of the title should be "Incomplete START". It's only written "未完成START" and no Romanisation is provided. I couldn't find any official Romanisation anywhere else. Shouldn't the title be Romanise to "Mikansei START" instead?

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