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nomico / DOWNFORCE - BRAVE OUT [CatchTheBeat]

posted 2016-06-16T08:16:10+00:00

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SYAHME

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SYAHME 2016-07-25T08:47:03+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

Jusen's Platter

00:05:873 (1) - Hmm I would have the slant on this reverse slider the same as 00:04:273 (1) - to be consistent and make for better movement. I really like, because it is the same vowel, just another sound that accompanies it is more intense.

00:08:073 (4,5) - Pretty strong sound on (5) and yet there is no jump here. I would recommend a jump here. Jump added.

00:14:473 (6,1) - Again with the strong sound on (1). This is very short spaced between the notes and it craves a bigger jump. Try move (1) to x:160. I did something similar, but I got the jump.

00:14:673 (1) - I thought the sliders onwards were a little too... Go left then right then left again. Try invert some sliders maybe so they slant inwards towards the centre. Yes, it was what I had in mind, since the intensity was in accordance with the position of the sliders, I'll leave so really I like it like this.

00:21:673 (4,1) - I think you tried to make a little jump here but it's too short. I would move 00:21:873 (1,2,3,4) - to x:160 again. (Maybe also curve the notes round a bit more too for more movement as it's kind of slow moving atm). I did something similar, in fact slightly increase the distance.

00:27:373 (7,1) - I know you're not allowed to have 1/4 hypers anymore but I would at least make a little just here because the music intensify's quite a bit here and craves a jump. I'll keep it as is, if someone else mentioned, I will add.

00:31:873 (4) - I would slant this note all the way horizontally like you did with 00:30:673 (1) - as it kind of slows the player down when it could be a nice glide here. Sure, done.

00:35:473 (1) - ^ I prefer to keep it like this, because I have no space and would be very along with the following note.

00:39:873 (1) - This slider completely covers up the nice potentially for a jump or even a hyper towards a circle note at 00:40:273 - so maybe try something like I have done here ? Yes, i like this pattern.
http://puu.sh/qdjnR/b1833be0b4.jpg

00:43:873 (2,3) - I think a jump would be nice here due to strong drum noise (Previous ones are alright due to the pattern you did which is cool :3) Even if it's only a small jump like say moving (3) to x:328 would be nice enough. EDIT: (Actually maybe a bit more to the right) Sure, done.

00:51:373 (8,1) - Same jump reason as 00:27:373 (7,1) - What mentioned in the suggestion ^.

00:52:673 (2,3,4,1) - Hmmm this hyper dash is kind of hard due to it's stacked note with the triplets. Try maybe a horizontal line with the triplets instead like this ? Done.

00:53:073 (1) - This feels too stacked also. Platters should at least keep the player moving quite a bit so maybe slant this more ? I do not know which way to stack, but I hope and not lead to conflict.

00:54:173 (2) - Why does this slider start on the blue tick with not really much prompt sound on it O_o ? I would just make into a circle note on the white tick instead. (that goes for some others ahead). Note added.

00:55:873 - ACK!!! Where is the note here D: ? clear drum noise which you have been mapping beforehand ;w;. Sorry D:, note added.

00:59:373 (4,1) - Imo I don't see a reason for having (4). And also then you could make a better jump with 00:59:073 (3,1) - if you remove (4). (Please increase jumping too).

01:04:073 (4) - I was a bit confused because a little earlier on it sounded like you were following drums but now it's switched to vocals ? I wouldn't miss the drum sounds on the white ticks imo (Same for ones further on). imo, I prefer it, as it gives a special touch that makes that emphasized.

01:05:673 (3,1,2) - Imo the hyper should be between 01:05:873 (1,2) - Instead as it's a louder noise. I prefer to keep my pattern, i like it.

01:18:573 (7,1) - Same jump reasons as before. Same reason i mentioned.

01:24:873 (6,7,1) - No drum noise on (7). This is a great chance for a hyper between (6, 1) if (7) is removed. I know there is a hi hat noise but it's not too important to keep in and I would say it's better to have the jump here. It is better jump

01:28:873 (4,1) - I think there should be some distance here as they seem too close together for the build up. Moved

01:32:973 (6,1) - Not even a jump

. Come on ;w; It's also a Kiai start and the biggest part of the song. Perhaps it does, but I do not ideas.

01:35:473 (3,4) - Be nice if these were mirrored slants to glide nicer. I'm not sure, maybe i'll do.

01:37:073 (1,2) - ^ ^

01:43:473 (3,4) - ^ ^

01:52:173 (5,1) - Slight jump here too maybe. Doesn't fit.

01:55:473 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - All these could be slanted more for nicer flow. Done.

01:58:173 (4,5) - Perhaps a jump between these to make the climax of the song more interesting ? Also love to see some more curving with the notes again in the stream due to little movement. It is not mine, but look good, but I'll leave it like this

Really thanks for the mod, helpful.

Update

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Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo
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DeletedUser_6709840

DeletedUser_6709840 2016-07-25T09:52:46+00:00

If I'm correct, I was asked to do a recheck in exchange for a mod, so no kudosu for this since I've modded before. Even if there's nothing in return, I'll mod anyway. Hyperion's mapping is usually pretty solid so I'll look at Jusen's Platter too.

I might have been sniped several times.

JUSEN'S PLATTER

Personally, I think the slider velocity should be 1.60 to give more movement and fix flow issues with some of the sliders and spacing in-between notes.
00:03:473 (5) – This slider overlaps the border and is hard to catch because of that. Move (5) to X=96.
00:09:873 (3) – H-dash to this slider is a bit harsh for the tone of the song here. Fix by moving (3) to X=112
00:33:473 (1,2) – Another harsh h-dash, move (2) to X=56 so it becomes a better distance for the h-dash.
00:38:673 (1,2,3,4,5) – This feels really awkward to play because of weird spacing, fix by putting (1) on X=40, (2) on X=96, (3) on X=168, (4) on X=120 and (5) on X=72.
00:47:473 (4,1) – I don't hear anything that would warrant such a large dash. Move (1) to X=320.
01:57:073 (1,2,3,4) – Feels like these should be a better build up because players will miss too much on (2). Put (2) on X=152

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION

01:57:773 (5,1) – You made this h-dash higher spacing but 01:58:173 (4,5) has more reason to be emphasized since the 'drums' pick up there. You could move 01:57:873 (1,2,3,4) to X=136 so the spacing between 01:57:773 (5,1) into 4.50x spacing and then move 01:58:273 (5) to X=364 so the h-dash is 4.64x and then put 01:58:573 (6) on X=124 so the spacing is 4.80x spacing to dash to it. TL;DR, Make the spacing of the h-dashes gradually rising so it matches the song reaching the climax.

Good luck with the map, I guess if you add anymore diffs I can come back to recheck if needed because why not.

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-07-25T09:54:40+00:00

No, you deserve kudosu for JBH diff and this is for our M4M.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-07-25T16:57:39+00:00

RoseusJaeger wrote:
JUSEN'S PLATTER

Personally, I think the slider velocity should be 1.60 to give more movement and fix flow issues with some of the sliders and spacing in-between notes. I prefer to keep my VS.
00:03:473 (5) – This slider overlaps the border and is hard to catch because of that. Move (5) to X=96. I did something similar.
00:09:873 (3) – H-dash to this slider is a bit harsh for the tone of the song here. Fix by moving (3) to X=112 I prefer to keep.
00:33:473 (1,2) – Another harsh h-dash, move (2) to X=56 so it becomes a better distance for the h-dash. ^.
00:38:673 (1,2,3,4,5) – This feels really awkward to play because of weird spacing, fix by putting (1) on X=40, (2) on X=96, (3) on X=168, (4) on X=120 and (5) on X=72. Seems fine to me, so i keep my pattern.
00:47:473 (4,1) – I don't hear anything that would warrant such a large dash. Move (1) to X=320. Done.
01:57:073 (1,2,3,4) – Feels like these should be a better build up because players will miss too much on (2). Put (2) on X=152 Gives a special move, so i keep.

Good luck with the map, I guess if you add anymore diffs I can come back to recheck if needed because why not.

Thanks for the mod, helpful.

Update

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SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-07-25T18:11:36+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

RoseusJaeger wrote:
JUSEN'S PLATTER

Personally, I think the slider velocity should be 1.60 to give more movement and fix flow issues with some of the sliders and spacing in-between notes. I prefer to keep my VS.
00:03:473 (5) – This slider overlaps the border and is hard to catch because of that. Move (5) to X=96. I did something similar.
00:09:873 (3) – H-dash to this slider is a bit harsh for the tone of the song here. Fix by moving (3) to X=112 I prefer to keep.
00:33:473 (1,2) – Another harsh h-dash, move (2) to X=56 so it becomes a better distance for the h-dash. ^.
00:38:673 (1,2,3,4,5) – This feels really awkward to play because of weird spacing, fix by putting (1) on X=40, (2) on X=96, (3) on X=168, (4) on X=120 and (5) on X=72. Seems fine to me, so i keep my pattern.
00:47:473 (4,1) – I don't hear anything that would warrant such a large dash. Move (1) to X=320. Done.
01:57:073 (1,2,3,4) – Feels like these should be a better build up because players will miss too much on (2). Put (2) on X=152 Gives a special move, so i keep.

Good luck with the map, I guess if you add anymore diffs I can come back to recheck if needed because why not.

Thanks for the mod, helpful.

Update

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-07-25T18:35:29+00:00

WildOne94 wrote:
Hey there SYAHME o/
I believe the lovely ladies who mapped Soleil asked me to m4m here (Tch ... cheeky (^: )

General
I got a little OCD off something which was the BG name (I know this is pointless but it says 1920x1080 in it which gave me bad OCD and I was like PLEASE CHANGE! XD) LOL SAME

The Kiai change in Hyperions Rain is not really needed tbf. It's better if no kiai between 01:45:873 (1) - and 01:52:273 (1) - as the kiai's are right next to each other bringing up a much more needed warning. Huh? You want me to remove kiai from the most intense part of the song? The reason I split it into two sections is to get an additional star fountain effect at the halfway point. This is a frequent feature of my mapping and is supported by the music so I'll obviously keep it

Hyperion's Lame... I mean Rain
Sorry if a bit bad at suggesting mods here but it's a really hard rain which I can't play ;-;. Will try my best though.

00:06:673 (1,2,3,4,5) - Took me a while to figure out why I kept missing here. It was either due to the longer and quicker sliders jumps but I concluded that I think it was the reverse slider 00:07:873 (5) -. Compared to the previous sliders they make you dash and this reverse makes you come to a complete hold to try slow down. Perhaps make the reverse out of circle notes instead to make it more longer or even the slider length again. (Sorry badly explained but I think you get it ). EDIT: Wait... It might have been me but it still seems a little tough I guess in this area. Hdash into this is balanced with the horizontal repeat slider which allows a smooth movement into and out of it. If it was vertical I could see the issue, but this plays fine to me

00:16:973 (3,4) - Oh man that's a harsh hyper jump :^(. It makes the player go really fast into a facing slider which is really hard to try catch. Suggest flipping (4). Reduced 00:16:973 (3,4) slightly instead for a weaker hyper, antiflow is intentional here to emphasise the vocals

00:25:073 (3,4) - I think these should be slanted inwards more to feel the effect of gradually getting closer in play. Sure thing

00:29:373 (2) - I think these needs moving left a bit because it sticks out too much imo in play. 00:29:073 (1) was meant to be at x-176 so I did that, must have moved this by accident because you're right, 1.76x is way too big

00:47:873 (4,1) - I would move (4) to x:324 to make a nicer hyper to the drum beat at (1) then. I'm only hypering to snares and finishers, kick drum also would be too much imo

01:04:073 (1,2) - Due to the constant dashing needed before hand it's a little weird how it jumps to very close sliders here. Perhaps space out more ? Sure this was a little cramped, moved 01:03:273 (2,3,4,1) right a little

01:08:673 (4,1) - The hypers stop around here for a bit so I thought maybe a hyper would be good here ? Same as before, I don't want to hyper to weak vocals and kick drum sounds. The vocals are much softer here so fewer hdashes feels more fitting

01:19:473 (3,4) - Really don't like this anti-flow reverses here imo ;w;. Perhaps move (4) to the left of (3) instead ? Wiggle is intended here to match the synth reverb sound effect

01:21:673 (5,1) - Hmm out of the hypers in this section I thought there would be one here tbh. Perhaps add one here? Ok, since vocal is pretty strong here I can accept this

01:29:073 (1,2,3,4) - Imo these are the hardest to catch since they all change slant. Try something like this maybe ? (or inverted). They play exactly the same either way for me, but variation in angle looks more interesting. I'd prefer to keep them

01:39:073 (5,6) - These should be slanted more due to how hard it is to try stop at this dashing speed imo ;w;. Hard to catch upright hypers like that in an area like this. Agreed, rotated 01:39:273 (6) anticlockwise a little for better flow

Sorry man.. That felt like I did a bad job at the mod >.<
But I didn't really know how to change this one for once as the mapping style seems quite unique. So not sure if things need changing or not due to how I can't play D:

I fixed some things so it was a helpful mod! I guess this is a little different from my normal style but we'll see how things go it was way worse originally xD

Well that's all from me.
Hope I helped out.
Good luck :3

RoseusJaeger wrote:
If I'm correct, I was asked to do a recheck in exchange for a mod, so no kudosu for this since I've modded before. Even if there's nothing in return, I'll mod anyway. Hyperion's mapping is usually pretty solid so I'll look at Jusen's Platter too.

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION

01:57:773 (5,1) – You made this h-dash higher spacing but 01:58:173 (4,5) has more reason to be emphasized since the 'drums' pick up there. You could move 01:57:873 (1,2,3,4) to X=136 so the spacing between 01:57:773 (5,1) into 4.50x spacing and then move 01:58:273 (5) to X=364 so the h-dash is 4.64x and then put 01:58:573 (6) on X=124 so the spacing is 4.80x spacing to dash to it. TL;DR, Make the spacing of the h-dashes gradually rising so it matches the song reaching the climax. I put the hyper on 01:57:773 (5,1) because that's where the kick drum goes to a full 1/4 pattern and the synth pitch increases. Making a hyper to a weaker 1/4 tick would play quite awkwardly. If I could up the difficulty more I'd make this 4plet two hypered 1/4 sliders (one between 01:57:573 (3,4) -) but that would be too much, so a simple 1/1 hyper pattern fits better here

Good luck with the map, I guess if you add anymore diffs I can come back to recheck if needed because why not.

Thanks for the mods guys!

Rain

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Version:HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
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SYAHME

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SYAHME 2016-07-26T01:12:47+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:

WildOne94 wrote:
Hey there SYAHME o/
I believe the lovely ladies who mapped Soleil asked me to m4m here (Tch ... cheeky (^: )

General
I got a little OCD off something which was the BG name (I know this is pointless but it says 1920x1080 in it which gave me bad OCD and I was like PLEASE CHANGE! XD) LOL SAME

The Kiai change in Hyperions Rain is not really needed tbf. It's better if no kiai between 01:45:873 (1) - and 01:52:273 (1) - as the kiai's are right next to each other bringing up a much more needed warning. Huh? You want me to remove kiai from the most intense part of the song? The reason I split it into two sections is to get an additional star fountain effect at the halfway point. This is a frequent feature of my mapping and is supported by the music so I'll obviously keep it

Hyperion's Lame... I mean Rain
Sorry if a bit bad at suggesting mods here but it's a really hard rain which I can't play ;-;. Will try my best though.

00:06:673 (1,2,3,4,5) - Took me a while to figure out why I kept missing here. It was either due to the longer and quicker sliders jumps but I concluded that I think it was the reverse slider 00:07:873 (5) -. Compared to the previous sliders they make you dash and this reverse makes you come to a complete hold to try slow down. Perhaps make the reverse out of circle notes instead to make it more longer or even the slider length again. (Sorry badly explained but I think you get it ). EDIT: Wait... It might have been me but it still seems a little tough I guess in this area. Hdash into this is balanced with the horizontal repeat slider which allows a smooth movement into and out of it. If it was vertical I could see the issue, but this plays fine to me

00:16:973 (3,4) - Oh man that's a harsh hyper jump :^(. It makes the player go really fast into a facing slider which is really hard to try catch. Suggest flipping (4). Reduced 00:16:973 (3,4) slightly instead for a weaker hyper, antiflow is intentional here to emphasise the vocals

00:25:073 (3,4) - I think these should be slanted inwards more to feel the effect of gradually getting closer in play. Sure thing

00:29:373 (2) - I think these needs moving left a bit because it sticks out too much imo in play. 00:29:073 (1) was meant to be at x-176 so I did that, must have moved this by accident because you're right, 1.76x is way too big

00:47:873 (4,1) - I would move (4) to x:324 to make a nicer hyper to the drum beat at (1) then. I'm only hypering to snares and finishers, kick drum also would be too much imo

01:04:073 (1,2) - Due to the constant dashing needed before hand it's a little weird how it jumps to very close sliders here. Perhaps space out more ? Sure this was a little cramped, moved 01:03:273 (2,3,4,1) right a little

01:08:673 (4,1) - The hypers stop around here for a bit so I thought maybe a hyper would be good here ? Same as before, I don't want to hyper to weak vocals and kick drum sounds. The vocals are much softer here so fewer hdashes feels more fitting

01:19:473 (3,4) - Really don't like this anti-flow reverses here imo ;w;. Perhaps move (4) to the left of (3) instead ? Wiggle is intended here to match the synth reverb sound effect

01:21:673 (5,1) - Hmm out of the hypers in this section I thought there would be one here tbh. Perhaps add one here? Ok, since vocal is pretty strong here I can accept this

01:29:073 (1,2,3,4) - Imo these are the hardest to catch since they all change slant. Try something like this maybe ? (or inverted). They play exactly the same either way for me, but variation in angle looks more interesting. I'd prefer to keep them

01:39:073 (5,6) - These should be slanted more due to how hard it is to try stop at this dashing speed imo ;w;. Hard to catch upright hypers like that in an area like this. Agreed, rotated 01:39:273 (6) anticlockwise a little for better flow

Sorry man.. That felt like I did a bad job at the mod >.<
But I didn't really know how to change this one for once as the mapping style seems quite unique. So not sure if things need changing or not due to how I can't play D:

I fixed some things so it was a helpful mod! I guess this is a little different from my normal style but we'll see how things go it was way worse originally xD

Well that's all from me.
Hope I helped out.
Good luck :3

RoseusJaeger wrote:
If I'm correct, I was asked to do a recheck in exchange for a mod, so no kudosu for this since I've modded before. Even if there's nothing in return, I'll mod anyway. Hyperion's mapping is usually pretty solid so I'll look at Jusen's Platter too.

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION

01:57:773 (5,1) – You made this h-dash higher spacing but 01:58:173 (4,5) has more reason to be emphasized since the 'drums' pick up there. You could move 01:57:873 (1,2,3,4) to X=136 so the spacing between 01:57:773 (5,1) into 4.50x spacing and then move 01:58:273 (5) to X=364 so the h-dash is 4.64x and then put 01:58:573 (6) on X=124 so the spacing is 4.80x spacing to dash to it. TL;DR, Make the spacing of the h-dashes gradually rising so it matches the song reaching the climax. I put the hyper on 01:57:773 (5,1) because that's where the kick drum goes to a full 1/4 pattern and the synth pitch increases. Making a hyper to a weaker 1/4 tick would play quite awkwardly. If I could up the difficulty more I'd make this 4plet two hypered 1/4 sliders (one between 01:57:573 (3,4) -) but that would be too much, so a simple 1/1 hyper pattern fits better here

Good luck with the map, I guess if you add anymore diffs I can come back to recheck if needed because why not.

Thanks for the mods guys!

Rain

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SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-07-26T09:45:53+00:00

I want to take a break because I need to finish my hitsounding and M4M.

wonjae

Beatmap Nominator

762 posts

Joined October 2014

wonjae 2016-07-26T19:04:20+00:00

PP RAIN FeelsGoodMan

but seriously how is the rain worth 4.3 stars

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-07-26T19:07:20+00:00

Paranoid Grapes wrote:
PP RAIN FeelsGoodMan

but seriously how is the rain worth 4.3 stars

QAT can change the stars, lol.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-07-26T19:52:30+00:00

SYAHME wrote:
Paranoid Grapes wrote:
PP RAIN FeelsGoodMan

but seriously how is the rain worth 4.3 stars
QAT can change the stars, lol.

In the original version it was ~4.5 and actually hard. I nerfed it a bunch but SR hardly changed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Riari 2016-07-27T00:01:19+00:00

Haiku mod

[Hyperion's Redemption]

00:07:873 (5) - Maybe remove the repeat here? 00:08:073 - is very strong compared to your previous two beats here, moving it outwards slightly to make a pattern like below

might be nice to look at:
SPOILER
00:14:273 (5,6,7) - Same point as above, 00:14:473 (7) - is comparatively stronger than 00:14:273 (5,6) - in the triplet but it has by far the shortest distance from the

previous note. I'd suggest you add some emphasis to the note like I suggested above.
00:30:273 (7) - Split this into two 1/4 sliders? 00:30:473 - continues onto 00:30:573 - and keeps a nice stream flow going. Same can be applied to 00:28:673 (7) - and

00:31:073 (3) - etc.
01:02:673 (1) - Maybe turn this into a 1/2 repeater? Whilst 01:02:873 - is not a very major beat, it is still noticeable and I find a repeater here much more enjoyable to

play although that might be personal preference.
01:06:673 (4) - Same suggestion as above, just a consistency thing. ( 01:06:673 (4) - follows suit etc. )
01:10:673 (1) - The small gap after this feels a bit odd to play through, I've suggested swapping stuff for 1/4 sliders or just 1/4 streams above and I think this is

another good situation to do this. You have a constant 1/4 stream that is evident after each kick ( 01:11:073 (2,3) - and 01:11:473 (1,2,3,4) - ) which both follow similar to

01:10:673 (1) - which is a 3/4 total.
01:12:073 (6,1) - Hyper into 01:12:273 (1) - here? 01:12:073 (6,1) - is much stronger comparatively to 01:11:873 (5,6) - which has a larger distance here, the movement into

the downbeat would be much better emphasised with a hyper in my opinion.
01:16:273 (3) - NC here? I'm not a fan of the double digit fruit stack so it might be me being picky but I'd suggest splitting it up.
01:19:873 (4) - Change this to add emphasis on 01:20:073 - ? Whilst the 1/3 is consistent with 01:19:473 (3) - it feels really odd to not hyper or dash into such a strong

sound. Maybe something like my suggestion below would allow you to incorporate it.
SPOILER
01:31:473 (1) - make this more vertical? The faintness of the sound doesn't feel conveyed due to the added horizontal movement. I wouldn't suggest making it purely ~~a e s t h e t i c~~ but making it more vertical than horizontal would make it feel a lot better.

[Jusen's Platter]

00:00:873 (1) - Seems a bit odd to start off with a spinner here. All the lower difficulties move into the song with notes that follow the instrumental or the vocals in

one way or another. It feels really weak because the spinner ends at 00:01:873 - which is a strong downbeat that could push into the map. Something simple like a circle on

00:01:073 - and 00:01:473 - is a low density but very effective opener, stacking them with small movement would add a strong emphasis to the starting downbeat.
00:05:873 (1) - It feels a bit odd to have this as a 1/2 repeater. 00:02:673 (3) - and 00:03:473 (5) - are very similar to this, so I would suggest changing these three to

be consistent. 00:04:273 (1) - is different to these as 00:04:473 - is very well defined.
00:09:873 (3) - I'd suggest for this to be consistent with my suggestion above too.
00:24:273 (1) - I feel like you can express this section a bit differently. parts such as 00:25:273 - , 00:24:473 - and 00:24:873 - could be mapped if you split it into

sections of 3 1/2 sliders and do the same for 00:25:473 (2) - but with 00:25:473 (2) - having much lower spacing as it is much less intense. This is because both 00:24:273

(1,2) - play the same right now even though they sound very different.
00:27:473 (1) - 1/2 slider here? Audible beat on 00:27:673 - that you could map out here, also seperates it from 00:28:273 (3) - which is slightly different.
00:29:873 (3) - Split this into a 1/2 slider and a circle? 00:30:273 - feels like it should be hypered into instead of being a slider tail. There is an audible beat at

00:30:373 - that you could try to incorporate into this but working 1/4 hypers into platters is a nightmare thanks to the criteria friends.
00:31:073 (2) - Similar suggestion to above. The tail here is just about as strong as the head, whilst a hyper isn't really needed here I think seperating them and maybe

using a dash to emphasise the sound would be a nice addition.
00:32:273 (1) - Same suggestion as 00:31:073 (2) - here.
00:33:873 (2) - the 1/1 repeater feels very Salad-y here, a set of three 1/2 sliders or incorporated circles feel much more at home in a Platter here.
00:35:873 (2) - feels like it should be a slider, 00:36:073 - works well as a slider tail.
00:51:473 (1) - This feels a bit too long. The slider going past 00:51:873 - feels very empty until 00:52:273 - so I would suggest cutting it to a 1/1 with a circle at

00:52:273 - to start off with the vocals here.
01:04:073 (4) - This slider should start at 01:04:27 - , this is because it is the downbeat and the strongest part. A circle at 01:04:073 - would be fine but turning the

slider into a repeater wouldn't make sense as you start on a comparatively weak beat and go into a very heavy one.
01:07:273 (4) - Same as above.

More to follow at a later date(tm)

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-07-27T01:27:42+00:00

Riari wrote:
Haiku mod

[Jusen's Platter]
00:00:873 (1) - Seems a bit odd to start off with a spinner here. All the lower difficulties move into the song with notes that follow the instrumental or the vocals in I think not all dififs has to be exact, I like, so I keep like this.

one way or another. It feels really weak because the spinner ends at 00:01:873 - which is a strong downbeat that could push into the map. Something simple like a circle on I know, but still, I'll leave it like this.

00:01:073 - and 00:01:473 - is a low density but very effective opener, stacking them with small movement would add a strong emphasis to the starting downbeat. I know, I know I look good, but I like the spinner.
00:05:873 (1) - It feels a bit odd to have this as a 1/2 repeater. 00:02:673 (3) - and 00:03:473 (5) - are very similar to this, so I would suggest changing these three to

be consistent. 00:04:273 (1) - is different to these as 00:04:473 - is very well defined. Ok, done.
00:09:873 (3) - I'd suggest for this to be consistent with my suggestion above too. Done too.
00:24:273 (1) - I feel like you can express this section a bit differently. parts such as 00:25:273 - , 00:24:473 - and 00:24:873 - could be mapped if you split it into

sections of 3 1/2 sliders and do the same for 00:25:473 (2) - but with 00:25:473 (2) - having much lower spacing as it is much less intense. This is because both 00:24:273 I prefer to do something similar, but it's good your suggestion.

(1,2) - play the same right now even though they sound very different. ¿?
00:27:473 (1) - 1/2 slider here? Audible beat on 00:27:673 - that you could map out here, also seperates it from 00:28:273 (3) - which is slightly different. Done
00:29:873 (3) - Split this into a 1/2 slider and a circle? 00:30:273 - feels like it should be hypered into instead of being a slider tail. There is an audible beat at

00:30:373 - that you could try to incorporate into this but working 1/4 hypers into platters is a nightmare thanks to the criteria friends. I know it lol.
00:31:073 (2) - Similar suggestion to above. The tail here is just about as strong as the head, whilst a hyper isn't really needed here I think seperating them and maybe

using a dash to emphasise the sound would be a nice addition. Done.
00:32:273 (1) - Same suggestion as 00:31:073 (2) - here. ^.
00:33:873 (2) - the 1/1 repeater feels very Salad-y here, a set of three 1/2 sliders or incorporated circles feel much more at home in a Platter here. ^.
00:35:873 (2) - feels like it should be a slider, 00:36:073 - works well as a slider tail.^.
00:51:473 (1) - This feels a bit too long. The slider going past 00:51:873 - feels very empty until 00:52:273 - so I would suggest cutting it to a 1/1 with a circle at

00:52:273 - to start off with the vocals here. Nice suggestion.
01:04:073 (4) - This slider should start at 01:04:27 - , this is because it is the downbeat and the strongest part. A circle at 01:04:073 - would be fine but turning the

slider into a repeater wouldn't make sense as you start on a comparatively weak beat and go into a very heavy one. It's done.
01:07:273 (4) - Same as above. ^.

More to follow at a later date(tm) sure?

Thanks for the mod, helpful.

Update

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 91473
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
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DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
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Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo
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BeatmapSetID:469487

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CircleSize:3.8
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SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-07-27T04:15:12+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

Riari wrote:
Haiku mod

[Jusen's Platter]
00:00:873 (1) - Seems a bit odd to start off with a spinner here. All the lower difficulties move into the song with notes that follow the instrumental or the vocals in I think not all dififs has to be exact, I like, so I keep like this.

one way or another. It feels really weak because the spinner ends at 00:01:873 - which is a strong downbeat that could push into the map. Something simple like a circle on I know, but still, I'll leave it like this.

00:01:073 - and 00:01:473 - is a low density but very effective opener, stacking them with small movement would add a strong emphasis to the starting downbeat. I know, I know I look good, but I like the spinner.
00:05:873 (1) - It feels a bit odd to have this as a 1/2 repeater. 00:02:673 (3) - and 00:03:473 (5) - are very similar to this, so I would suggest changing these three to

be consistent. 00:04:273 (1) - is different to these as 00:04:473 - is very well defined. Ok, done.
00:09:873 (3) - I'd suggest for this to be consistent with my suggestion above too. Done too.
00:24:273 (1) - I feel like you can express this section a bit differently. parts such as 00:25:273 - , 00:24:473 - and 00:24:873 - could be mapped if you split it into

sections of 3 1/2 sliders and do the same for 00:25:473 (2) - but with 00:25:473 (2) - having much lower spacing as it is much less intense. This is because both 00:24:273 I prefer to do something similar, but it's good your suggestion.

(1,2) - play the same right now even though they sound very different. ¿?
00:27:473 (1) - 1/2 slider here? Audible beat on 00:27:673 - that you could map out here, also seperates it from 00:28:273 (3) - which is slightly different. Done
00:29:873 (3) - Split this into a 1/2 slider and a circle? 00:30:273 - feels like it should be hypered into instead of being a slider tail. There is an audible beat at

00:30:373 - that you could try to incorporate into this but working 1/4 hypers into platters is a nightmare thanks to the criteria friends. I know it lol.
00:31:073 (2) - Similar suggestion to above. The tail here is just about as strong as the head, whilst a hyper isn't really needed here I think seperating them and maybe

using a dash to emphasise the sound would be a nice addition. Done.
00:32:273 (1) - Same suggestion as 00:31:073 (2) - here. ^.
00:33:873 (2) - the 1/1 repeater feels very Salad-y here, a set of three 1/2 sliders or incorporated circles feel much more at home in a Platter here. ^.
00:35:873 (2) - feels like it should be a slider, 00:36:073 - works well as a slider tail.^.
00:51:473 (1) - This feels a bit too long. The slider going past 00:51:873 - feels very empty until 00:52:273 - so I would suggest cutting it to a 1/1 with a circle at

00:52:273 - to start off with the vocals here. Nice suggestion.
01:04:073 (4) - This slider should start at 01:04:27 - , this is because it is the downbeat and the strongest part. A circle at 01:04:073 - would be fine but turning the

slider into a repeater wouldn't make sense as you start on a comparatively weak beat and go into a very heavy one. It's done.
01:07:273 (4) - Same as above. ^.

More to follow at a later date(tm) sure?

Thanks for the mod, helpful.

Update

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 91473
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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DistanceSpacing: 1
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GridSize: 8
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[Metadata]
Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo
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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-07-27T12:18:59+00:00

Riari wrote:
Haiku mod

[Hyperion's Redemption]
00:07:873 (5) - Maybe remove the repeat here? 00:08:073 - is very strong compared to your previous two beats here, moving it outwards slightly to make a pattern like below might be nice to look at: Trying not to overcomplicate flow here, I already had to nerf it a lot so adding 1/4 dashes right at the start of the song undoes that somewhat
SPOILER
00:14:273 (5,6,7) - Same point as above, 00:14:473 (7) - is comparatively stronger than 00:14:273 (5,6) - in the triplet but it has by far the shortest distance from the previous note. I'd suggest you add some emphasis to the note like I suggested above. For me here (7) is the weakest beat, it's a low kick drum sound whereas the previous two were heavy snare hits.
00:30:273 (7) - Split this into two 1/4 sliders? 00:30:473 - continues onto 00:30:573 - and keeps a nice stream flow going. Same can be applied to 00:28:673 (7) - and 00:31:073 (3) - etc. Then this whole section would descend into 1/4 stream spam with no pauses, which again would spike the difficulty in an unwelcome way. I feel it's important to offer the player a chance to recover during these dense sections, which is why I used slow 1/2 sliders
01:02:673 (1) - Maybe turn this into a 1/2 repeater? Whilst 01:02:873 - is not a very major beat, it is still noticeable and I find a repeater here much more enjoyable to play although that might be personal preference. I prefer the 1/1 slider here, it fits the held vocal better than mapping over it with a weak cymbal sound on the red tick
01:06:673 (4) - Same suggestion as above, just a consistency thing. ( 01:06:673 (4) - follows suit etc. ) I didn't change the above so I'll keep the current arrangement here too
01:10:673 (1) - The small gap after this feels a bit odd to play through, I've suggested swapping stuff for 1/4 sliders or just 1/4 streams above and I think this is another good situation to do this. You have a constant 1/4 stream that is evident after each kick ( 01:11:073 (2,3) - and 01:11:473 (1,2,3,4) - ) which both follow similar to 01:10:673 (1) - which is a 3/4 total. Buffed distance here, though I kept 01:10:973 unmapped as there's no noticeable synth sound to follow here as in the following stream
01:12:073 (6,1) - Hyper into 01:12:273 (1) - here? 01:12:073 (6,1) - is much stronger comparatively to 01:11:873 (5,6) - which has a larger distance here, the movement into the downbeat would be much better emphasised with a hyper in my opinion. Done
01:16:273 (3) - NC here? I'm not a fan of the double digit fruit stack so it might be me being picky but I'd suggest splitting it up. Yeah why not
01:19:873 (4) - Change this to add emphasis on 01:20:073 - ? Whilst the 1/3 is consistent with 01:19:473 (3) - it feels really odd to not hyper or dash into such a strong sound. Maybe something like my suggestion below would allow you to incorporate it. Changed the rhythm, though I prefer the hdash on 01:20:073 (5,1) instead of 01:19:873 (4,5) - I also shortened 01:20:673 (2) by 1/4 since it was skipping over a kick in a similar way
SPOILER
01:31:473 (1) - make this more vertical? The faintness of the sound doesn't feel conveyed due to the added horizontal movement. I wouldn't suggest making it purely ~~a e s t h e t i c~~ but making it more vertical than horizontal would make it feel a lot better. Sure, made it more vertical
More to follow at a later date(tm)

Thanks for the suggestions!

Rain

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[Metadata]
Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo
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SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-07-27T12:21:42+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:

Riari wrote:
Haiku mod

[Hyperion's Redemption]
00:07:873 (5) - Maybe remove the repeat here? 00:08:073 - is very strong compared to your previous two beats here, moving it outwards slightly to make a pattern like below might be nice to look at: Trying not to overcomplicate flow here, I already had to nerf it a lot so adding 1/4 dashes right at the start of the song undoes that somewhat
SPOILER
00:14:273 (5,6,7) - Same point as above, 00:14:473 (7) - is comparatively stronger than 00:14:273 (5,6) - in the triplet but it has by far the shortest distance from the previous note. I'd suggest you add some emphasis to the note like I suggested above. For me here (7) is the weakest beat, it's a low kick drum sound whereas the previous two were heavy snare hits.
00:30:273 (7) - Split this into two 1/4 sliders? 00:30:473 - continues onto 00:30:573 - and keeps a nice stream flow going. Same can be applied to 00:28:673 (7) - and 00:31:073 (3) - etc. Then this whole section would descend into 1/4 stream spam with no pauses, which again would spike the difficulty in an unwelcome way. I feel it's important to offer the player a chance to recover during these dense sections, which is why I used slow 1/2 sliders
01:02:673 (1) - Maybe turn this into a 1/2 repeater? Whilst 01:02:873 - is not a very major beat, it is still noticeable and I find a repeater here much more enjoyable to play although that might be personal preference. I prefer the 1/1 slider here, it fits the held vocal better than mapping over it with a weak cymbal sound on the red tick
01:06:673 (4) - Same suggestion as above, just a consistency thing. ( 01:06:673 (4) - follows suit etc. ) I didn't change the above so I'll keep the current arrangement here too
01:10:673 (1) - The small gap after this feels a bit odd to play through, I've suggested swapping stuff for 1/4 sliders or just 1/4 streams above and I think this is another good situation to do this. You have a constant 1/4 stream that is evident after each kick ( 01:11:073 (2,3) - and 01:11:473 (1,2,3,4) - ) which both follow similar to 01:10:673 (1) - which is a 3/4 total. Buffed distance here, though I kept 01:10:973 unmapped as there's no noticeable synth sound to follow here as in the following stream
01:12:073 (6,1) - Hyper into 01:12:273 (1) - here? 01:12:073 (6,1) - is much stronger comparatively to 01:11:873 (5,6) - which has a larger distance here, the movement into the downbeat would be much better emphasised with a hyper in my opinion. Done
01:16:273 (3) - NC here? I'm not a fan of the double digit fruit stack so it might be me being picky but I'd suggest splitting it up. Yeah why not
01:19:873 (4) - Change this to add emphasis on 01:20:073 - ? Whilst the 1/3 is consistent with 01:19:473 (3) - it feels really odd to not hyper or dash into such a strong sound. Maybe something like my suggestion below would allow you to incorporate it. Changed the rhythm, though I prefer the hdash on 01:20:073 (5,1) instead of 01:19:873 (4,5) - I also shortened 01:20:673 (2) by 1/4 since it was skipping over a kick in a similar way
SPOILER
01:31:473 (1) - make this more vertical? The faintness of the sound doesn't feel conveyed due to the added horizontal movement. I wouldn't suggest making it purely ~~a e s t h e t i c~~ but making it more vertical than horizontal would make it feel a lot better. Sure, made it more vertical
More to follow at a later date(tm)

Thanks for the suggestions!

Rain

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MickeyTran

50 posts

Joined April 2014

MickeyTran 2016-07-30T05:08:36+00:00

Hi guys! Just wanted to help out with modding some GD's and other difficulties in this map.

Cup

Here are a couple of changes to this difficulty that can improve this map a little, but this is my first cup mod. It might not be useful, but i hope it can become a little better.

00:04:273 (1) - Try to change the direction of the slider, we should help these new players to feel the flow of the song first.
00:07:473 (1) - Ctrl+G because of flow.
00:08:273 (2) - Move this note to x:256, if you are okay with that advice above, or you can try deleting that note and make the slider repeat.

Salad

Apparently I tested this difficulty out a few times and noticed that I only used the dash button about 4-5 times. About half of the song in this map is FCable without the dash button, I would recommend increasing the CS a little bit more for Salad players (maybe CS 3.1 or 3.2 would work fine with this difficulty) or try changing some distances between the notes a little bit more that I will mention below because this difficulty feels like its more Cup than Salad. I do recommend choosing both if you really want to fix up distancing issues.

00:05:073 (2) - I would Ctrl+G and move this to x:496 because we don't want the catcher to zig zag too much in the beginning, plus the vocal is higher pitch there, so it has to have a change in pattern. We need the catcher to flow with the music if you get what I mean. Maybe another option would be to make the slider a little bit further so dash can be activated.
00:06:673 (4) - Make into a dash maybe? I would probably just make this into a 1/1 slider or add a note on 00:07:073 at x:192.
00:07:673 (2) - Move this to x:288.
00:08:273 (4) - And then move this to x:416, so players can use the dash for this. Also change this into a 1/1 slider. It increases the flow of the song. In addition with these kinds of dashes during those parts, you can tell by the vocal. It makes sense right?
00:09:073 (1,2) - This part doesn't really feel right. However, there are definitely many options of improvements here. For example, I would add a note on 00:09:673 at x:288 and make 00:09:873 (2) - Ctrl+G
00:10:673 (4) - Ctrl+G as well if you follow this advice above^
00:13:073 (3) - 1/1 slider or add note onto that empty white tick. Just my personal opinion if you would like salad to be harder.
00:25:873 (5) - Delete this note and add a spinner here up to 00:27:073. It does make the map nicer.
01:49:673 (4) - Try to make this note a little closer to the slider tail, i think its a little hard for salad players.

And i'll stop here for now since i'm okay with most parts of the song, hope some hitsounds are being added too

JUSEN'S PLATTER

I feel like platter can be harder than it is right now, and also the spread seems a little bit wide between HYPERION'S REDEMPTION, try changing the slider velocity to 1.65 or 1.60. I think it would be better since JBH's difficulty is at 2.00 slider velocity.

00:07:873 (2,3,4) - Try making these 3 notes (triplets) a little bit wider. 00:08:073 (4) - remember to also make this note be used as an h-dash
00:14:273 (4,5,6) - same up there^ and 00:14:473 (6) - can be used as an H-dash
00:21:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Make these a little bit more distance? I feel like its a little bit awkward here.
00:22:673 (1,2,3,4) - Increase the distance between the sliders because on 00:24:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - Has more distance
00:25:873 - You need to add something here man xD maybe a slider or a note. I can't live without this vocal if there is no note here lol.
00:52:473 - I think adding a note 00:52:673 (4,5,6) - Ctrl+G would feel smoother
00:53:073 (1) - Ctrl+G here too
00:54:073 - Add note please? c:
00:55:273 - Also here too?
01:30:273 - Spinner please :3
01:58:673 (9) - I would just remove this note because at 01:58:573 (8) - feels like its the best place to end the map.

Hope that's helpful!

I'll probably come back to mod yours again once you made a little bit more changes to your map.

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION

Hey JBH, just wanted to make a couple of changes or improvements on your GD as well.

00:05:873 (3,4,1,2) - I think there is a lack of flow here, I think it plays better if you 00:06:673 (1,2) - Ctrl+H this, however there is a vocal there on 00:06:673 (1) and it must maintain a pattern, so maybe try to distance out 00:06:473 (4) - a bit more?
00:18:673 (3,4) - I think switching these 2 on the timeline is better because the vocal is loud on 00:18:673 (3) - therefore it needs a h-dash. It has more emphasis to it.
00:52:973 - I think its better to add a note here on x:356

aaaa, good map btw.

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-07-30T06:35:36+00:00

MickeyTran wrote:
Hi guys! Just wanted to help out with modding some GD's and other difficulties in this map.

Cup
Here are a couple of changes to this difficulty that can improve this map a little, but this is my first cup mod. It might not be useful, but i hope it can become a little better.
00:04:273 (1) - Try to change the direction of the slider, we should help these new players to feel the flow of the song first. - Sorry, the flows is perfect here.
00:07:473 (1) - Ctrl+G because of flow. - Sorry, the flows will be awkward.
00:08:273 (2) - Move this note to x:256, if you are okay with that advice above, or you can try deleting that note and make the slider repeat. - Sorry, it still same if I make this a reverse slider.

Salad
Apparently I tested this difficulty out a few times and noticed that I only used the dash button about 4-5 times. About half of the song in this map is FCable without the dash button, I would recommend increasing the CS a little bit more for Salad players (maybe CS 3.1 or 3.2 would work fine with this difficulty) or try changing some distances between the notes a little bit more that I will mention below because this difficulty feels like its more Cup than Salad. I do recommend choosing both if you really want to fix up distancing issues. - Change the CS & fix the distances.

00:05:073 (2) - I would Ctrl+G and move this to x:496 because we don't want the catcher to zig zag too much in the beginning, plus the vocal is higher pitch there, so it has to have a change in pattern. We need the catcher to flow with the music if you get what I mean. Maybe another option would be to make the slider a little bit further so dash can be activated. - This is call movement & its not that hard.
00:06:673 (4) - Make into a dash maybe? I would probably just make this into a 1/1 slider or add a note on 00:07:073 at x:192. - I want to keep like this.
00:07:673 (2) - Move this to x:288. - I want to keep like this.
00:08:273 (4) - And then move this to x:416, so players can use the dash for this. Also change this into a 1/1 slider. It increases the flow of the song. In addition with these kinds of dashes during those parts, you can tell by the vocal. It makes sense right? - I want to keep like this.
00:09:073 (1,2) - This part doesn't really feel right. However, there are definitely many options of improvements here. For example, I would add a note on 00:09:673 at x:288 and make 00:09:873 (2) - Ctrl+G - No, its will jeopardize the flows.
00:10:673 (4) - Ctrl+G as well if you follow this advice above^ - ^.
00:13:073 (3) - 1/1 slider or add note onto that empty white tick. Just my personal opinion if you would like salad to be harder. - No, I follow the vocal.
00:25:873 (5) - Delete this note and add a spinner here up to 00:27:073. It does make the map nicer. - Sorry, I can't the distance between note & spinner should be 1/1 beat snap divisor.
01:49:673 (4) - Try to make this note a little closer to the slider tail, i think its a little hard for salad players. - Okay, I change the pattern & reduce the distance.
And i'll stop here for now since i'm okay with most parts of the song, hope some hitsounds are being added too - Okay

aaaa, good map btw. - Thanks

Thanks for the mod.

Last edited by SYAHME 2016-08-16T13:15:14+00:00, edited 4 times in total.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-07-30T14:15:30+00:00

MickeyTran wrote:
Hi guys! Just wanted to help out with modding some GD's and other difficulties in this map.

[JUSEN'S PLATTER]I feel like platter can be harder than it is right now, and also the spread seems a little bit wide between HYPERION'S REDEMPTION, try changing the slider velocity to 1.65 or 1.60. I think it would be better since JBH's difficulty is at 2.00 slider velocity. I think I prefer to leave the SV as this.

00:07:873 (2,3,4) - Try making these 3 notes (triplets) a little bit wider. 00:08:073 (4) - remember to also make this note be used as an h-dash I like this and prefer to be dash.
00:14:273 (4,5,6) - same up there^ and 00:14:473 (6) - can be used as an H-dash Same ^.
00:21:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Make these a little bit more distance? I feel like its a little bit awkward here. It goes well for me, the wave effect I like.
00:22:673 (1,2,3,4) - Increase the distance between the sliders because on 00:24:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - Has more distance It is because the sound is stronger elsewhere.
00:25:873 - You need to add something here man xD maybe a slider or a note. I can't live without this vocal if there is no note here lol. Added.
00:52:473 - I think adding a note 00:52:673 (4,5,6) - Ctrl+G would feel smoother I follow the voice, so I prefer to leave it like this.
00:53:073 (1) - Ctrl+G here too If I do that, I will lose the h-dash.
00:54:073 - Add note please? c: If i put, i'll inconsistencies.
00:55:273 - Also here too? ^.
01:30:273 - Spinner please :3 Is very little time for a spinner.
01:58:673 (9) - I would just remove this note because at 01:58:573 (8) - feels like its the best place to end the map. It gives emphasis to the end of the song.
Hope that's helpful! I'll probably come back to mod yours again once you made a little bit more changes to your map. I will wait for you.

Thans for the mod, as helpful.

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SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-07-30T15:32:52+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

MickeyTran wrote:
Hi guys! Just wanted to help out with modding some GD's and other difficulties in this map.

[JUSEN'S PLATTER]I feel like platter can be harder than it is right now, and also the spread seems a little bit wide between HYPERION'S REDEMPTION, try changing the slider velocity to 1.65 or 1.60. I think it would be better since JBH's difficulty is at 2.00 slider velocity. I think I prefer to leave the SV as this.

00:07:873 (2,3,4) - Try making these 3 notes (triplets) a little bit wider. 00:08:073 (4) - remember to also make this note be used as an h-dash I like this and prefer to be dash.
00:14:273 (4,5,6) - same up there^ and 00:14:473 (6) - can be used as an H-dash Same ^.
00:21:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Make these a little bit more distance? I feel like its a little bit awkward here. It goes well for me, the wave effect I like.
00:22:673 (1,2,3,4) - Increase the distance between the sliders because on 00:24:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - Has more distance It is because the sound is stronger elsewhere.
00:25:873 - You need to add something here man xD maybe a slider or a note. I can't live without this vocal if there is no note here lol. Added.
00:52:473 - I think adding a note 00:52:673 (4,5,6) - Ctrl+G would feel smoother I follow the voice, so I prefer to leave it like this.
00:53:073 (1) - Ctrl+G here too If I do that, I will lose the h-dash.
00:54:073 - Add note please? c: If i put, i'll inconsistencies.
00:55:273 - Also here too? ^.
01:30:273 - Spinner please :3 Is very little time for a spinner.
01:58:673 (9) - I would just remove this note because at 01:58:573 (8) - feels like its the best place to end the map. It gives emphasis to the end of the song.
Hope that's helpful! I'll probably come back to mod yours again once you made a little bit more changes to your map. I will wait for you.

Thans for the mod, as helpful.

Update

osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 91473
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DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
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Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-07-30T18:06:08+00:00

MickeyTran wrote:
Hi guys! Just wanted to help out with modding some GD's and other difficulties in this map.

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
Hey JBH, just wanted to make a couple of changes or improvements on your GD as well.

00:05:873 (3,4,1,2) - I think there is a lack of flow here, I think it plays better if you 00:06:673 (1,2) - Ctrl+H this, however there is a vocal there on 00:06:673 (1) and it must maintain a pattern, so maybe try to distance out 00:06:473 (4) - a bit more? Antiflow is intentional here to highlight the difference between vocals 00:05:873 (3,1) - (contrast with 00:12:273 (3,1) -) and 00:06:673 (1,2) is a wobble due to the synth sound - consistency with 00:13:073 (1,2) -). I feel this plays very nicely so I'd prefer to keep it
00:18:673 (3,4) - I think switching these 2 on the timeline is better because the vocal is loud on 00:18:673 (3) - therefore it needs a h-dash. It has more emphasis to it. Had to rearranged 00:19:473 (1,2) - hdashes, but nice idea, done
00:52:973 - I think its better to add a note here on x:356 The drum sound is skipped here, so mapping it to create an artificial 1/4 hdash would play weirdly. A simpler pattern here gives 00:53:073 (1) more emphasis
aaaa, good map btw. \o/

Thanks for the mod!

Rain

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SYAHME

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SYAHME 2016-07-30T20:16:13+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:

MickeyTran wrote:
Hi guys! Just wanted to help out with modding some GD's and other difficulties in this map.

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
Hey JBH, just wanted to make a couple of changes or improvements on your GD as well.

00:05:873 (3,4,1,2) - I think there is a lack of flow here, I think it plays better if you 00:06:673 (1,2) - Ctrl+H this, however there is a vocal there on 00:06:673 (1) and it must maintain a pattern, so maybe try to distance out 00:06:473 (4) - a bit more? Antiflow is intentional here to highlight the difference between vocals 00:05:873 (3,1) - (contrast with 00:12:273 (3,1) -) and 00:06:673 (1,2) is a wobble due to the synth sound - consistency with 00:13:073 (1,2) -). I feel this plays very nicely so I'd prefer to keep it
00:18:673 (3,4) - I think switching these 2 on the timeline is better because the vocal is loud on 00:18:673 (3) - therefore it needs a h-dash. It has more emphasis to it. Had to rearranged 00:19:473 (1,2) - hdashes, but nice idea, done
00:52:973 - I think its better to add a note here on x:356 The drum sound is skipped here, so mapping it to create an artificial 1/4 hdash would play weirdly. A simpler pattern here gives 00:53:073 (1) more emphasis
aaaa, good map btw. \o/

Thanks for the mod!

Rain

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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Cowboy

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Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-08-09T18:02:20+00:00

M4M request

General

All is well, just turn off the "Widescreen support" option in the Hyperion diff.

Cup

I find it somewhat irrelevant 00:15:473 (1,2) - here have more distance and there is a very strong sound in comparison with 00:13:873 (1,2) - this.
01:14:273 (2,3) - You could give a little more movement, I know this following the path of other notes, but it would be better that will add movement. Move 01:14:673 (3,4,5) - this section x: 280. Try that they are not too close together.
I did not find many things, but there's something I want to tell you: I suggest that this type of difficulty, use two distances, one that will be the normal distance will be more use around the map and one that will be with you identify a normal of a louder sound.

Salad

00:05:073 (2) - You could give another direction to this slider you give more variety of movement, try Ctrl + H and move it a little to the right, try to use the same distance that you used in these sliders: 00:01:873 (1,3) - .
00:11:473 (1) - Works better with Ctrl+H, I feel that if you apply my suggestion, gives you more Emphasising at the slider, because it is a loud sound, even a dash would fit.
00:13:873 (1) - I know you're following the vowel in this slider, but are missing a drum that could emphasize a dash, same drum are :00:14:673 - here.
00:24:073 (4,1) - A dash could fit here, but ot a sound to strong, so think about it.
00:33:073 (1,2) - You could increase a bit the distance because it's a sound stronger, so a dash could be works.
You could add a note 00:46:473 - here to make a dash to the next slider. If you are agree with my suggestion, i recommend you to use Ctrl+H on the slider and move to the right.
01:04:673 (4,1) - I feel it is a great opportunity to add a dash.
01:14:273 (2,3) - The same i said on cup, stack notes lose movement in difficulty, try to move 01:14:673 (3,4) - this section to x: 130. If you see this close to the next slider, move a bit to the right.
01:45:073 (1,2) - Increase the distance please, i can pass without use the boost.
01:49:073 (3,4) - Decrease a bit the distance, don't need a dash.
Ok, it's all what I found, I recommend that the comment I said in the Cup.

Hyperion's Redemption

00:39:273 (4,5) - Idk if a hdash could be fit, but if not, I recommend reducing some distance.
00:47:873 (4,1) - ^, the same, but in this case, works better with dash.
01:09:073 (1,2) - An a h-dash could be help.
01:15:273 (6,1) - Here I feel it is necessary to add the h-dash, so that you achieve a consistency, as being the same sound, you put one here: 01:13:673 (6,1) - .
Ok, nothing more to say, good difficulty.

Here is my mod, an apology for the delay, is a good map, good luck, and go through qualifying.

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-08-10T02:32:03+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:
M4M request

General

All is well, just turn off the "Widescreen support" option in the Hyperion diff.

Cup
I find it somewhat irrelevant 00:15:473 (1,2) - here have more distance and there is a very strong sound in comparison with 00:13:873 (1,2) - this. - Reduce the distance.
01:14:273 (2,3) - You could give a little more movement, I know this following the path of other notes, but it would be better that will add movement. Move 01:14:673 (3,4,5) - this section x: 280. Try that they are not too close together. - Well, we'll see what other modders opinion.
I did not find many things, but there's something I want to tell you: I suggest that this type of difficulty, use two distances, one that will be the normal distance will be more use around the map and one that will be with you identify a normal of a louder sound. - I'll try.

Salad

00:05:073 (2) - You could give another direction to this slider you give more variety of movement, try Ctrl + H and move it a little to the right, try to use the same distance that you used in these sliders: 00:01:873 (1,3) - . - Sorry, I want to make a different pattern.
00:11:473 (1) - Works better with Ctrl+H, I feel that if you apply my suggestion, gives you more Emphasising at the slider, because it is a loud sound, even a dash would fit. - Sorry, The pattern after this slider will be weird.
00:13:873 (1) - I know you're following the vowel in this slider, but are missing a drum that could emphasize a dash, same drum are :00:14:673 - here. - Well, I want to follow the vocal. We'll see what other modders opinion.
00:24:073 (4,1) - A dash could fit here, but ot a sound to strong, so think about it. - Yes, I make the distance increase, apply for next sliders too.
00:33:073 (1,2) - You could increase a bit the distance because it's a sound stronger, so a dash could be works. - I will keep like this for a while.
You could add a note 00:46:473 - here to make a dash to the next slider. If you are agree with my suggestion, i recommend you to use Ctrl+H on the slider and move to the right. - I added a hitcircle here, but I make with different pattern.
01:04:673 (4,1) - I feel it is a great opportunity to add a dash. - I will keep like this for a while.
01:14:273 (2,3) - The same i said on cup, stack notes lose movement in difficulty, try to move 01:14:673 (3,4) - this section to x: 130. If you see this close to the next slider, move a bit to the right. - So many complaints about this pattern, I changed into different pattern.
01:45:073 (1,2) - Increase the distance please, i can pass without use the boost. - Sorry, but I can't pass without using the dash.
01:49:073 (3,4) - Decrease a bit the distance, don't need a dash. - The distance is already okay, you also can pass without using the dash.
Ok, it's all what I found, I recommend that the comment I said in the Cup. - Okay

Here is my mod, an apology for the delay, is a good map, good luck, and go through qualifying. - Thanks

Thanks for the mod.

Last edited by SYAHME 2016-09-25T14:53:25+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-08-18T18:34:42+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:
M4M request

Hyperion's Redemption

00:39:273 (4,5) - Idk if a hdash could be fit, but if not, I recommend reducing some distance. Reduced distance, don't want to add too many hdashes here
00:47:873 (4,1) - ^, the same, but in this case, works better with dash. Added
01:09:073 (1,2) - An a h-dash could be help. Didn't use it previously so won'f here either for consistency, regular dash provides enough emphasis here imo
01:15:273 (6,1) - Here I feel it is necessary to add the h-dash, so that you achieve a consistency, as being the same sound, you put one here: 01:13:673 (6,1) - Rearranged a few patterns to add hdash here .
Ok, nothing more to say, good difficulty.

Here is my mod, an apology for the delay, is a good map, good luck, and go through qualifying.

Thanks for the suggestions!

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SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-08-19T01:37:32+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:

Jusenkyo wrote:
M4M request

Hyperion's Redemption

00:39:273 (4,5) - Idk if a hdash could be fit, but if not, I recommend reducing some distance. Reduced distance, don't want to add too many hdashes here
00:47:873 (4,1) - ^, the same, but in this case, works better with dash. Added
01:09:073 (1,2) - An a h-dash could be help. Didn't use it previously so won'f here either for consistency, regular dash provides enough emphasis here imo
01:15:273 (6,1) - Here I feel it is necessary to add the h-dash, so that you achieve a consistency, as being the same sound, you put one here: 01:13:673 (6,1) - Rearranged a few patterns to add hdash here .
Ok, nothing more to say, good difficulty.

Here is my mod, an apology for the delay, is a good map, good luck, and go through qualifying.

Thanks for the suggestions!

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Moeruattack

763 posts

Joined June 2014

Moeruattack 2016-08-29T14:07:58+00:00

~~#quickmod~~ #modreqs from SYAHME :p

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION

Disable Widescreen Support since no SB.

00:30:873 (2) - Prefer if move a bit near to (1) to x:228, since it might be a bit tricky playing this part.
00:39:273 (4) - I think make it ascending jumping pattern like moving this one to x:344 seems nice.

Neh I think all fine, just stream I`m not really sure through (long time no mod lol.).

JUSENKYO'S PLATTER

00:00:873 (1) - Better put spinner just like Rain/Salad/Cup one, like put on 01:29:973 (1).
00:53:073 (1) - This slider could use a bit slope more to make a bit not straight sliders.
01:45:873 (1) - ^
00:56:473 (5) - Maybe make this a bit near to next (1)
01:33:673 (2) - Move this one to x:448, fixing flow to catch (3).

Good platter map :3

SALAD

01:49:673 (4) - Could use a bit nerfing on this note to x:224 or a bit near to (1)
01:58:673 - 2 Timing exist in same time, remove 1 Red Timing in here.

Other, maybe na, clean Salad

Hitsounding is far more stronger in Cup and Salad than Platter and Rain diff, from what I played. Maybe need to recheck hitsounding for both of this map.

I think thats it + cookiesu, should rank already :3

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-08-29T14:10:46+00:00

murutattack wrote:
~~#quickmod~~ #modreqs from SYAHME :p - :p

SALAD
01:49:673 (4) - Could use a bit nerfing on this note to x:224 or a bit near to (1) - Nice, done.
01:58:673 - 2 Timing exist in same time, remove 1 Red Timing in here. - Hehe, removed.

Other, maybe na, clean Salad - Thank you

Hitsounding is far more stronger in Cup and Salad than Platter and Rain diff, from what I played. Maybe need to recheck hitsounding for both of this map. - I will refer JBH about this.

I think thats it + cookiesu, should rank already :3 - Thank you

Thank you so much for the mod & star.

Last edited by SYAHME 2016-08-29T17:10:51+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-08-29T16:43:37+00:00

murutattack wrote:
~~#quickmod~~ #modreqs from SYAHME :p

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
Disable Widescreen Support since no SB. Not really necessary; since there is no SB this option literally does nothing, but whatever

00:30:873 (2) - Prefer if move a bit near to (1) to x:228, since it might be a bit tricky playing this part. Done
00:39:273 (4) - I think make it ascending jumping pattern like moving this one to x:344 seems nice. Ok

Neh I think all fine, just stream I`m not really sure through (long time no mod lol.). We'll see how it goes (:

Hitsounding is far more stronger in Cup and Salad than Platter and Rain diff, from what I played. Maybe need to recheck hitsounding for both of this map. Cup and Salad use 50/70% volume, Platter 50% volume throughout whilst Rain uses 50/60% volume. Personally, I think ~ 60% gives a nice balance between complimenting the song and not being overbearing, but will change if others disagree.

I think thats it + cookiesu, should rank already :3

Thanks for the mod!

Rain-demption

osu file format v14

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SYAHME

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Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-08-29T17:01:59+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:

murutattack wrote:
~~#quickmod~~ #modreqs from SYAHME :p

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
Disable Widescreen Support since no SB. Not really necessary; since there is no SB this option literally does nothing, but whatever

00:30:873 (2) - Prefer if move a bit near to (1) to x:228, since it might be a bit tricky playing this part. Done
00:39:273 (4) - I think make it ascending jumping pattern like moving this one to x:344 seems nice. Ok

Neh I think all fine, just stream I`m not really sure through (long time no mod lol.). We'll see how it goes (:

Hitsounding is far more stronger in Cup and Salad than Platter and Rain diff, from what I played. Maybe need to recheck hitsounding for both of this map. Cup and Salad use 50/70% volume, Platter 50% volume throughout whilst Rain uses 50/60% volume. Personally, I think ~ 60% gives a nice balance between complimenting the song and not being overbearing, but will change if others disagree.

I think thats it + cookiesu, should rank already :3

Thanks for the mod!

Rain-demption

osu file format v14

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Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
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Creator:SYAHME
Version:HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
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Updated, thanks JBH.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-08-29T21:16:07+00:00

murutattack wrote:
~~#quickmod~~ #modreqs from SYAHME :p

JUSENKYO'S PLATTER
00:00:873 (1) - Better put spinner just like Rain/Salad/Cup one, like put on 01:29:973 (1). I prefer to keep for maintain variety.
00:53:073 (1) - This slider could use a bit slope more to make a bit not straight sliders. Alright!
01:45:873 (1) - ^ Done too.
00:56:473 (5) - Maybe make this a bit near to next (1) Changed by a slider, I feel better.
01:33:673 (2) - Move this one to x:448, fixing flow to catch (3).

Good platter map :3 Thanks and thanks for mod, was helpful.

Update

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 91473
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 24473,24873,25273,30373
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 2.599999

[Metadata]
Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
BeatmapID:1013297
BeatmapSetID:469487

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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@SYAHME Please add hitsounds i remove a note and lost hs, thanks <3

SYAHME

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Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-08-30T00:25:10+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

murutattack wrote:
~~#quickmod~~ #modreqs from SYAHME :p

JUSENKYO'S PLATTER
00:00:873 (1) - Better put spinner just like Rain/Salad/Cup one, like put on 01:29:973 (1). I prefer to keep for maintain variety.
00:53:073 (1) - This slider could use a bit slope more to make a bit not straight sliders. Alright!
01:45:873 (1) - ^ Done too.
00:56:473 (5) - Maybe make this a bit near to next (1) Changed by a slider, I feel better.
01:33:673 (2) - Move this one to x:448, fixing flow to catch (3).

Good platter map :3 Thanks and thanks for mod, was helpful.

Update

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 91473
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 24473,24873,25273,30373
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 2.599999

[Metadata]
Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
BeatmapID:1013297
BeatmapSetID:469487

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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27473,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
93073,-100,4,2,1,50,0,1
118673,-100,4,2,1,20,0,0


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@SYAHME Please add hitsounds i remove a note and lost hs, thanks <3

Updated, thanks Jusenkyo.

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,950 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2016-08-31T07:39:18+00:00

From that mod queue I have
Cup
For the following sliders: 00:28:873 (3) - 00:30:473 (2) - 00:32:073 (2) - 00:35:273 (2) -
You seem to be swapping between going towards the next note, and going away. Would suggest to have all of them following the direction of the pattern.

01:24:673 (3,1) - Could give them the same x coordinate, would look nicer. Just move 01:25:473 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - to x=272
But after doing this, it kind of undermines with 01:24:673 (3,4,1), maybe don't do this, something to consider.

01:48:273 (1,2) - Too far left. Hit ctrl-a to see what I mean, very few notes go that far. Can just move the entire 01:48:273 (1,2,3,1,2) - over a bit

Salad
00:11:473 (1) - Move apex of slider to the end of 00:10:673 (3). You could also potentially ctrl-g it to make it flow better.

00:45:373 (1) - ctrl-g, it's very awkward to catch

01:05:873 (1) - You have a small reverse slider for the lyrics here, but none at 01:09:073 (1) -

01:51:673 (2) - Too much antiflow, ctrl-h

Platter
00:47:073 (3,4) - 00:48:673 (2,3) - It just irks me a little that the start of the slider doesn't have the same x coordinate as the circle. Nothing too serious but might as well fix.

01:20:873 (2,3) - I don't think this pattern should be a dash, probably because it looks close enough to not be a dash, but it is.

01:56:673 (4,1) - Hyperdash into antiflow, not too good on this map. Would suggest to ctrl-g 1,2 and 3,4. Also allows for a better finish to the stream.

Redemption is a bit above what I can play.

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-08-31T14:14:53+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
From that mod queue I have
Cup
For the following sliders: 00:28:873 (3) - 00:30:473 (2) - 00:32:073 (2) - 00:35:273 (2) -
You seem to be swapping between going towards the next note, and going away. Would suggest to have all of them following the direction of the pattern. - I want to make some varieties.

01:24:673 (3,1) - Could give them the same x coordinate, would look nicer. Just move 01:25:473 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - to x=272
But after doing this, it kind of undermines with 01:24:673 (3,4,1), maybe don't do this, something to consider. - No change

01:48:273 (1,2) - Too far left. Hit ctrl-a to see what I mean, very few notes go that far. Can just move the entire 01:48:273 (1,2,3,1,2) - over a bit - I agree with you, make it to the right a little bit.

Salad
00:11:473 (1) - Move apex of slider to the end of 00:10:673 (3). You could also potentially ctrl-g it to make it flow better. - No change, you should use a dash.

00:45:373 (1) - ctrl-g, it's very awkward to catch - I want to make some movement here, so no change.

01:05:873 (1) - You have a small reverse slider for the lyrics here, but none at 01:09:073 (1) - You heard the first have a strong beat, so I make a reverse slider to cover it.

01:51:673 (2) - Too much antiflow, ctrl-h - The flow will become weird, so no change.

Redemption is a bit above what I can play. - It's okay

Thanks for the mod.

Last edited by SYAHME 2016-08-31T23:06:25+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-08-31T19:43:29+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
From that mod queue I have

Platter
00:47:073 (3,4) - 00:48:673 (2,3) - It just irks me a little that the start of the slider doesn't have the same x coordinate as the circle. Nothing too serious but might as well fix. Moved o.o

01:20:873 (2,3) - I don't think this pattern should be a dash, probably because it looks close enough to not be a dash, but it is. hdash doesn't fit here.

01:56:673 (4,1) - Hyperdash into antiflow, not too good on this map. Would suggest to ctrl-g 1,2 and 3,4. Also allows for a better finish to the stream. H-dash fits here becasue are the final part, the climax need to be more stronger.

Thanks for mod!

Update

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 91473
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 24473,24873,25273,30373
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 2.599999

[Metadata]
Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
BeatmapID:1013297
BeatmapSetID:469487

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-08-31T22:45:45+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

Sinnoh wrote:
From that mod queue I have

Platter
00:47:073 (3,4) - 00:48:673 (2,3) - It just irks me a little that the start of the slider doesn't have the same x coordinate as the circle. Nothing too serious but might as well fix. Moved o.o

01:20:873 (2,3) - I don't think this pattern should be a dash, probably because it looks close enough to not be a dash, but it is. hdash doesn't fit here.

01:56:673 (4,1) - Hyperdash into antiflow, not too good on this map. Would suggest to ctrl-g 1,2 and 3,4. Also allows for a better finish to the stream. H-dash fits here becasue are the final part, the climax need to be more stronger.

Thanks for mod!

Update

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 91473
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 24473,24873,25273,30373
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 2.599999

[Metadata]
Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
BeatmapID:1013297
BeatmapSetID:469487

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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rew0825

1,290 posts

Joined March 2013

rew0825 2016-09-24T01:28:01+00:00

M4M Request but i not have any map to your mod xD

[

CUP]

00:28:673 (2,3,1,2,1,2,1) - This part, how about to try this rhythm
Picture
01:15:473 (5,1,2,1,2) - This part i think slider is should use on drawl, how about to try this rhythm
Picture

[

SALAD]

00:07:873 (3,4) - Between this distance is should be more, how about x:400
00:45:373 (1) - ctrl+g?
01:52:273 (4,1) - how about to try this rhythm
Picture

[

JUSEN'S PLATTER]

00:05:873 (1) - reduce this slider about distane of end slider to 00:06:473 (2) -
01:45:873 (1) - increase this slider

[

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION]

01:36:673 (3,4) - Change in a bit
Picture
01:52:873 (6) - How about move to x:372 and Change slider a bit
Picture

So very fun map <3 Good luck

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-09-24T02:24:50+00:00

rew0825 wrote:
M4M Request but i not have any map to your mod xD

[ JUSEN'S PLATTER]
00:05:873 (1) - reduce this slider about distane of end slider to 00:06:473 (2) - The distance works fine here.
01:45:873 (1) - increase this slider Don't need to increase, its fine.

So very fun map <3 Good luck Thanks for the mod but no changes from me.

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-09-24T05:00:00+00:00

rew0825 wrote:
M4M Request but i not have any map to your mod xD - Exchange for 2 kudosu xD

[ CUP]
00:28:673 (2,3,1,2,1,2,1) - This part, how about to try this rhythm - Sorry, I don't want to change anything on this.
Picture
01:15:473 (5,1,2,1,2) - This part i think slider is should use on drawl, how about to try this rhythm - Sorry, I don't want to change anything on this.
Picture
[ SALAD]
00:07:873 (3,4) - Between this distance is should be more, how about x:400 - Sorry, I will keep like this.
00:45:373 (1) - ctrl+g? - Sorry, I like this pattern.
01:52:273 (4,1) - how about to try this rhythm - Nice, follow as suggested.
Picture

So very fun map <3 Good luck - Thanks

Thanks for the mod.

Last edited by SYAHME 2016-09-25T15:39:29+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-09-24T12:18:03+00:00

rew0825 wrote:
M4M Request but i not have any map to your mod xD

[ HYPERION'S REDEMPTION]
01:36:673 (3,4) - Change in a bit
Picture
Sure, flows a little better
01:52:873 (6) - How about move to x:372 and Change slider a bit
Picture
Sure, vocal at 01:53:073 (1) - is strong enough to warrant a hyper
So very fun map <3 Good luck

Thanks for the mod!

Rain

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TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
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Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
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SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-09-24T12:23:46+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:

rew0825 wrote:
M4M Request but i not have any map to your mod xD

[ HYPERION'S REDEMPTION]
01:36:673 (3,4) - Change in a bit
Picture
Sure, flows a little better
01:52:873 (6) - How about move to x:372 and Change slider a bit
Picture
Sure, vocal at 01:53:073 (1) - is strong enough to warrant a hyper
So very fun map <3 Good luck

Thanks for the mod!

Rain

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Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
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Updated

MBomb

MBomb 2016-10-02T17:32:05+00:00

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[Cup]

00:05:073 (2) - Stronger distance would be nice for vocal, you could try x:432.
00:14:673 (2) - Same as above, do x:80.
00:24:673 (2,4) - More distancing here could be nice for emphasis on the strong sounds here, maybe try x:384 on both.
01:39:473 (3) - Higher distance to this for the cymbal-like sound here, try x:64.
01:41:873 (1) - For vocals here, higher distance could work, x:48 maybe.

[Salad]

00:10:673 (3) - Distance to this might be a bit strong for a non-dash, try x:416 instead.
00:13:873 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Ends up feeling pretty repetitive, what you could do to reduce the repetitive feeling is ctrl+H 00:17:073 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - , and then move 00:20:673 (2) - to x:144.
00:31:873 (2) - Not really fitting for a dash, but this is kinda difficult without dashing right now, maybe try x:160.
00:35:873 (1,1,2) - I don't think the dash to the start of this really fits very well, however, a dash to both of the next two sliders for the strong drum beats would be nice, so try moving the first 1 to x:192, and then ctrl+g the second 1 and move to x:480.
00:49:473 (2) - This note isn't really strong at all, I'm not sure why you used a dash to it, try x:320.
00:51:073 (2) - Dash to this for strong drums would be nice, maybe x:368.
01:05:873 (1) - x:368, just so a salad player knows to dash here.
01:24:273 (1,2) - A dash to 2 could be nice, maybe curve 1 like this, and then move 2,3 to x:128.
01:27:473 (3) - Move this to x:128 to avoid any awkward movements.
01:28:273 (5,6,7,8,9) - Move to x:336, a dash here for the drums would be nice.
01:34:873 (3) - I think this should be a bit closer to the rest of the triple, try x:160.
01:36:473 (3) - ^, x:272.
01:38:073 (3) - ^, x:320.
01:39:673 (3) - ^, x:288.
01:41:873 (4,5) - Could be nice to add dashes both to and from this, try x:496 maybe?
01:42:873 (2) - Again, feels a bit far from the rest of the triple, try x:112.
01:43:473 (4,5) - Distancing between notes here feels a bit strong, maybe try 4 on x:224, and 5 on x:416.
01:44:473 (7) - Bit far from the rest of the triple, try x:208.
01:45:873 (2,1,2) - Add a dash to this for the strong drum sounds? x:480 would be nicer.
01:49:073 (3) - Vertical slider on x:352 would be nice, for a dash to this.
01:50:273 (2) - x:240 would be nice, current distances are a bit strong, and dashes don't really fit the song here.
01:53:073 (2) - x:64 would work well, to have a dash for the vocal.
01:55:473 (1,2,3,4) - Move this section to x:112 to add a dash for strong notes here.

[Platter]

00:00:873 (1) - This is the only diff that uses this spinner, so I think it'd be best to remove it and just have a note on where the end is currently.
00:02:473 (2) - Feels a bit far from the rest of the triple, try x:320.
00:17:073 (4) - Ctrl+H on this and moving it back to x:352 would be nice to add a bit of variety in the patterns.
00:21:873 (1,2,3,4) - Higher distancing to and from this could work, try x:200 on this.
00:24:273 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Adding dashes here for the strong sounds would be nice. Try 2 on x:272, and then 00:25:473 (4,5,6) - onto x:288.
00:33:073 (4,5,6) - Could be nice to make a dash to 4, and then also a dash from 6, each for respective strong drum sounds. Try 4 on x:88, 5 on x:56, and 6 on x:88. Makes a nice flowing triple pattern from each dash.
00:36:873 (4,1) - HDash feels kinda forced against the wall right now. Try 4 on x:216 and then 1 on x:480.
00:37:473 (2) - Dashes for strong drum sounds would be nice. Try x:296 on this.
00:38:273 (4) - Same reasoning as above, try a vertical slider at x:320 here.
00:46:473 (2) - Very strong sound here that you're using just a sliderend for, feels kinda off to me.
00:51:473 (1) - Try x:272 on this, current distancing feels a little weak considering how strong the movement is.
00:54:473 (3) - Distancing a tiny bit strong on triple, try x:224 instead.
00:59:073 (3) - Try x:368, to make dash more obvious to a platter player.
01:09:473 (2) - Dash to this could be nice for vocal, maybe curve slider like this and move to x:192.
01:13:073 (3) - Try moving this to x:96 and curving like this to add dash for vocal whilst still keeping flow (Keep slider 1/1 of course, realised I messed up screenshot after doing this).
01:13:873 (1) - Distance to this is pretty uncomfortable without dashing right now, maybe try x:288 to make it more comfortable flow here.
01:25:073 (1) - Maybe make a HDash to this for the start of the strong drum section by curving like this and moving to x:216.
01:55:873 (2) - Dashes would be nice here, maybe make this a horizontal slider going left at x:200.
01:57:273 (2) - Lower distance would be nice here considering direction changes, try x:160.

[Redemption]

I don't expect to say much here considering I've looked at it before, and, well, Hyperion has perfect mapping, but let's check anyway.

00:15:873 (4) - Kinda difficult right now, try like x:172 instead.
00:20:273 (3) - This one feels a bit strong too, try x:212.
00:49:073 (3) - Again, can be kinda difficult to hit at this strength, maybe do x:140.

Yeah, nothing else to really say.

Alright, done. I'd suggest getting a few more mods, mainly for salad and platter, before calling me back though, as I feel as though those can be refined quite a bit more.

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-02T17:53:02+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
ayy - ayy

[Cup]

00:05:073 (2) - Stronger distance would be nice for vocal, you could try x:432. - Done
00:14:673 (2) - Same as above, do x:80. - Done
00:24:673 (2,4) - More distancing here could be nice for emphasis on the strong sounds here, maybe try x:384 on both. - Done
01:39:473 (3) - Higher distance to this for the cymbal-like sound here, try x:64. - I didn't follow this suggestion, but I change into another pattern to emphasize the cymbal-like sound.
01:41:873 (1) - For vocals here, higher distance could work, x:48 maybe. - Done, but I change at x:80 cause not try to make the pattern & flow more weird.

[Salad]

00:10:673 (3) - Distance to this might be a bit strong for a non-dash, try x:416 instead. - Done
00:13:873 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Ends up feeling pretty repetitive, what you could do to reduce the repetitive feeling is ctrl+H 00:17:073 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - , and then move 00:20:673 (2) - to x:144. - Done, change the repetitive. Although it's actually my style but your suggestions is good, but after the slider I change into my own pattern instead of move 00:20:673 (2) - to x:144.
00:31:873 (2) - Not really fitting for a dash, but this is kinda difficult without dashing right now, maybe try x:160. - Done
00:35:873 (1,1,2) - I don't think the dash to the start of this really fits very well, however, a dash to both of the next two sliders for the strong drum beats would be nice, so try moving the first 1 to x:192, and then ctrl+g the second 1 and move to x:480. - Done, but for the first 1 I moved to x:176 and for the second 1 I don't want to ctrl+g cause I want its have the same pattern with the next slider. I also moved the second 1 to x:400.
00:49:473 (2) - This note isn't really strong at all, I'm not sure why you used a dash to it, try x:320. - Done, but moved to x:288.
00:51:073 (2) - Dash to this for strong drums would be nice, maybe x:368. - Done, but moved to x:336.
01:05:873 (1) - x:368, just so a salad player knows to dash here. - Done
01:24:273 (1,2) - A dash to 2 could be nice, maybe curve 1 like this, and then move 2,3 to x:128. - I didn't follow this suggestion but I moved 1 to x:80 to make a dash. I also didn't follow the next one because I want the pattern of 2,3 consistent with the next hitcircle.
01:27:473 (3) - Move this to x:128 to avoid any awkward movements. - No change, the pattern become more awkward and not fun to play.
01:28:273 (5,6,7,8,9) - Move to x:336, a dash here for the drums would be nice. - Done, but moved to x:320.
01:34:873 (3) - I think this should be a bit closer to the rest of the triple, try x:160. - Done, but make it closer by 1 box.
01:36:473 (3) - ^, x:272. - ^
01:38:073 (3) - ^, x:320. - ^
01:39:673 (3) - ^, x:288. - ^
01:41:873 (4,5) - Could be nice to add dashes both to and from this, try x:496 maybe? - Nice, but I moved to x:464.
01:42:873 (2) - Again, feels a bit far from the rest of the triple, try x:112. - Done, but make it closer by 1 box.
01:43:473 (4,5) - Distancing between notes here feels a bit strong, maybe try 4 on x:224, and 5 on x:416. - I didn't change on 4 but I moved 5 to x:464.
01:44:473 (7) - Bit far from the rest of the triple, try x:208. - Done, but make it closer by 1 box.
01:45:873 (2,1,2) - Add a dash to this for the strong drum sounds? x:480 would be nicer. - Well, we'll see what other modders opinion.
01:49:073 (3) - Vertical slider on x:352 would be nice, for a dash to this. - ^
01:50:273 (2) - x:240 would be nice, current distances are a bit strong, and dashes don't really fit the song here. - Done, but moved to x:224.
01:53:073 (2) - x:64 would work well, to have a dash for the vocal. - Wrong x-axis?
01:55:473 (1,2,3,4) - Move this section to x:112 to add a dash for strong notes here. - Done, but moved to x:128.

Alright, done. I'd suggest getting a few more mods, mainly for salad and platter, before calling me back though, as I feel as though those can be refined quite a bit more. - Okay, I will try find a few more mods.

Thanks for the mod.

Last edited by SYAHME 2016-10-03T15:41:03+00:00, edited 7 times in total.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-10-02T18:43:12+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
ayy

[Platter]

00:00:873 (1) - This is the only diff that uses this spinner, so I think it'd be best to remove it and just have a note on where the end is currently. Yes, i know, but the spinner seems fine to me, so i just move a bit, and add a note.
00:02:473 (2) - Feels a bit far from the rest of the triple, try x:320. Moved.
00:17:073 (4) - Ctrl+H on this and moving it back to x:352 would be nice to add a bit of variety in the patterns. Well, added to give more variety.
00:21:873 (1,2,3,4) - Higher distancing to and from this could work, try x:200 on this. Moved, seems better.
00:24:273 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Adding dashes here for the strong sounds would be nice. Try 2 on x:272, and then 00:25:473 (4,5,6) - onto x:288. Moved.
00:33:073 (4,5,6) - Could be nice to make a dash to 4, and then also a dash from 6, each for respective strong drum sounds. Try 4 on x:88, 5 on x:56, and 6 on x:88. Makes a nice flowing triple pattern from each dash. Done, seems better than my old pattern.
00:36:873 (4,1) - HDash feels kinda forced against the wall right now. Try 4 on x:216 and then 1 on x:480. Done.
00:37:473 (2) - Dashes for strong drum sounds would be nice. Try x:296 on this. Distance increased.
00:38:273 (4) - Same reasoning as above, try a vertical slider at x:320 here. Done too.
00:46:473 (2) - Very strong sound here that you're using just a sliderend for, feels kinda off to me. Slider replaced by a two notes.
00:51:473 (1) - Try x:272 on this, current distancing feels a little weak considering how strong the movement is. Moved.
00:54:473 (3) - Distancing a tiny bit strong on triple, try x:224 instead. Feels better.
00:59:073 (3) - Try x:368, to make dash more obvious to a platter player. Dash added and moved (4) a bit to the right so avoid stack these notes.
01:09:473 (2) - Dash to this could be nice for vocal, maybe curve slider like this and move to x:192. Done.
01:13:073 (3) - Try moving this to x:96 and curving like this to add dash for vocal whilst still keeping flow (Keep slider 1/1 of course, realised I messed up screenshot after doing this). Done too.
01:13:873 (1) - Distance to this is pretty uncomfortable without dashing right now, maybe try x:288 to make it more comfortable flow here. Moved a bit.
01:25:073 (1) - Maybe make a HDash to this for the start of the strong drum section by curving like this and moving to x:216. Done
01:55:873 (2) - Dashes would be nice here, maybe make this a horizontal slider going left at x:200. Dash added.
01:57:273 (2) - Lower distance would be nice here considering direction changes, try x:160. Moved.

Alright, done. I'd suggest getting a few more mods, mainly for salad and platter, before calling me back though, as I feel as though those can be refined quite a bit more. We are trying to get more mods on these diffs, thanks for the mod, was helpful.

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-10-02T21:08:01+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
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[Redemption]

I don't expect to say much here considering I've looked at it before, and, well, Hyperion has perfect mapping, but let's check anyway.

00:15:873 (4) - Kinda difficult right now, try like x:172 instead. Sure thing
00:20:273 (3) - This one feels a bit strong too, try x:212. Fair enough, vocal is a little weaker here
00:49:073 (3) - Again, can be kinda difficult to hit at this strength, maybe do x:140. Moved 00:49:073 (3,4) to x-140 to avoid a flowstop between them

Yeah, nothing else to really say.

Alright, done. I'd suggest getting a few more mods, mainly for salad and platter, before calling me back though, as I feel as though those can be refined quite a bit more.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Rdmptn

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SYAHME

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SYAHME 2016-10-03T01:49:08+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
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[Platter]

00:00:873 (1) - This is the only diff that uses this spinner, so I think it'd be best to remove it and just have a note on where the end is currently. Yes, i know, but the spinner seems fine to me, so i just move a bit, and add a note.
00:02:473 (2) - Feels a bit far from the rest of the triple, try x:320.
00:17:073 (4) - Ctrl+H on this and moving it back to x:352 would be nice to add a bit of variety in the patterns. Well, added to give more variety.
00:21:873 (1,2,3,4) - Higher distancing to and from this could work, try x:200 on this. Moved, seems better.
00:24:273 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Adding dashes here for the strong sounds would be nice. Try 2 on x:272, and then 00:25:473 (4,5,6) - onto x:288. Moved.
00:33:073 (4,5,6) - Could be nice to make a dash to 4, and then also a dash from 6, each for respective strong drum sounds. Try 4 on x:88, 5 on x:56, and 6 on x:88. Makes a nice flowing triple pattern from each dash. Done, seems better than my old pattern.
00:36:873 (4,1) - HDash feels kinda forced against the wall right now. Try 4 on x:216 and then 1 on x:480. Done.
00:37:473 (2) - Dashes for strong drum sounds would be nice. Try x:296 on this. Distance increased.
00:38:273 (4) - Same reasoning as above, try a vertical slider at x:320 here. Done too.
00:46:473 (2) - Very strong sound here that you're using just a sliderend for, feels kinda off to me. Slider replaced by a two notes.
00:51:473 (1) - Try x:272 on this, current distancing feels a little weak considering how strong the movement is. Moved.
00:54:473 (3) - Distancing a tiny bit strong on triple, try x:224 instead. Feels better.
00:59:073 (3) - Try x:368, to make dash more obvious to a platter player. Dash added and moved (4) a bit to the right so avoid stack these notes.
01:09:473 (2) - Dash to this could be nice for vocal, maybe curve slider like this and move to x:192. Done.
01:13:073 (3) - Try moving this to x:96 and curving like this to add dash for vocal whilst still keeping flow (Keep slider 1/1 of course, realised I messed up screenshot after doing this). Done too.
01:13:873 (1) - Distance to this is pretty uncomfortable without dashing right now, maybe try x:288 to make it more comfortable flow here. Moved a bit.
01:25:073 (1) - Maybe make a HDash to this for the start of the strong drum section by curving like this and moving to x:216. Done
01:55:873 (2) - Dashes would be nice here, maybe make this a horizontal slider going left at x:200. Dash added.
01:57:273 (2) - Lower distance would be nice here considering direction changes, try x:160. Moved.

Alright, done. I'd suggest getting a few more mods, mainly for salad and platter, before calling me back though, as I feel as though those can be refined quite a bit more. We are trying to get more mods on these diffs, thanks for the mod, was helpful.

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Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
BeatmapID:1013297
BeatmapSetID:469487

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
1873,400,4,2,1,50,1,0
27473,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
93073,-100,4,2,1,50,0,1
118673,-100,4,2,1,20,0,0


[Colours]
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Combo2 : 255,128,128
Combo3 : 60,157,255
Combo4 : 3,252,134

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JBHyperion wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
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[Redemption]

I don't expect to say much here considering I've looked at it before, and, well, Hyperion has perfect mapping, but let's check anyway.

00:15:873 (4) - Kinda difficult right now, try like x:172 instead. Sure thing
00:20:273 (3) - This one feels a bit strong too, try x:212. Fair enough, vocal is a little weaker here
00:49:073 (3) - Again, can be kinda difficult to hit at this strength, maybe do x:140. Moved 00:49:073 (3,4) to x-140 to avoid a flowstop between them

Yeah, nothing else to really say.

Alright, done. I'd suggest getting a few more mods, mainly for salad and platter, before calling me back though, as I feel as though those can be refined quite a bit more.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Rdmptn

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Lyaneii

138 posts

Joined July 2013

Lyaneii 2016-10-08T21:26:06+00:00

PM Mod Request
Bolded is more important than normal ones
[Salad]
00:24:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - Those 'stationary' dashes, especially a lot of them at that point, seem a bit too hard for a salad difficulty.

00:41:073 (1) - This repeat slider mimicks the switch in the pitch of the piano, but the pitch at 00:42:673 (1) - is elevating in each note, while there still is a repeat slider, I would rather put this pattern 00:44:273 (1,2,3) - at that point instead of the repeat slider.

00:45:373 (1,2) - This anti-flow slider seems a little bit too hard as it can catch you off guard if you do not time this well with the next note.

01:28:273 (5) - Start NC at this note.

01:33:073 (4,1,1,2) - The NC of the whole kiai time seems to be off by 1 beat. (Actually, the NC is off beat at a lot of points in the map itself).

01:46:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Note density seems a bit too high in this part, but idk the exact rules of note density in difficulties.

[Platter]
00:07:873 (2,3,4) - Just a minor minor minor thing, the triplet here is a slightly 'unintentionally' curved ingame -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6278309, looks nicer if it was just one diagonal triplet.

00:10:473 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - This non-dash zigzag goes unnoticeably into a dash at the end, followed up by a hyperdash, that really catches people off guard.

01:44:273 (5,6,7,8) - Same for this one ^

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-09T01:12:01+00:00

Calibus wrote:
PM Mod Request
Bolded is more important than normal ones
[Salad]
00:24:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - Those 'stationary' dashes, especially a lot of them at that point, seem a bit too hard for a salad difficulty. - Yes, I have reduced the distance between them.

00:41:073 (1) - This repeat slider mimicks the switch in the pitch of the piano, but the pitch at 00:42:673 (1) - is elevating in each note, while there still is a repeat slider, I would rather put this pattern 00:44:273 (1,2,3) - at that point instead of the repeat slider. - Change the second 1 with 00:44:273 (1,2,3) - this, but the first 1 I will keep.

00:45:373 (1,2) - This anti-flow slider seems a little bit too hard as it can catch you off guard if you do not time this well with the next note. - I think it's not that hard.

01:28:273 (5) - Start NC at this note. - Done

01:33:073 (4,1,1,2) - The NC of the whole kiai time seems to be off by 1 beat. (Actually, the NC is off beat at a lot of points in the map itself). - I think the NC in kiai part is fine.

01:46:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Note density seems a bit too high in this part, but idk the exact rules of note density in difficulties. - Well, I only used 1/1 & 1/2 so there is no problem.

Thanks for the mod.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-10-09T01:51:55+00:00

Calibus wrote:
PM Mod Request
Bolded is more important than normal ones[/b

[Platter]
00:07:873 (2,3,4) - Just a minor minor minor thing, the triplet here is a slightly 'unintentionally' curved ingame -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6278309, looks nicer if it was just one diagonal triplet. Re-mapped this.

00:10:473 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - [b]This non-dash zigzag goes unnoticeably into a dash at the end, followed up by a hyperdash, that really catches people off guard. I feel better like as now, gives more movement.

01:44:273 (5,6,7,8) - Same for this one ^The same

Thanks for the mod

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SYAHME

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Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-09T01:58:10+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

Calibus wrote:
PM Mod Request
Bolded is more important than normal ones[/b

[Platter]
00:07:873 (2,3,4) - Just a minor minor minor thing, the triplet here is a slightly 'unintentionally' curved ingame -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6278309, looks nicer if it was just one diagonal triplet. Re-mapped this.

00:10:473 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - [b]This non-dash zigzag goes unnoticeably into a dash at the end, followed up by a hyperdash, that really catches people off guard. I feel better like as now, gives more movement.

01:44:273 (5,6,7,8) - Same for this one ^The same

Thanks for the mod

Update

osu file format v14

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Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
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Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
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Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
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Lyaneii

138 posts

Joined July 2013

Lyaneii 2016-10-12T20:31:44+00:00

Btw where is the rain difficulty for the difficulty spread? It jumps from 2,9 stars to 4,3 stars right now :/

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-10-12T22:04:28+00:00

Calibus wrote:
Btw where is the rain difficulty for the difficulty spread? It jumps from 2,9 stars to 4,3 stars right now :/

My diff is a Rain, SR is inaccurate because "1/4 hypers = difficulty" apparently

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-14T11:57:14+00:00

I hope I don't have to create 1 more diff between platter and redemption. Its will take more time to map and mod. Furthermore, I don't like 2 insane diff in my maps.

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2016-10-15T20:29:04+00:00

SYAHME wrote:
I hope I don't have to create 1 more diff between platter and redemption. Its will take more time to map and mod. Furthermore, I don't like 2 insane diff in my maps.

Let's see if I can do something with my mod

CUP

You are following vocal the most part of the song and it's the main problem of your diff, I'll explain you why. If you take a look from 00:27:473 - to 00:40:273 - and then compare with kiai time from 01:33:073 - to 01:58:673 -, the intensity of the melody is the same, but you mapped totally different cause the first one doesn't have vocal, keep consistency at least on the same amount of notes to be consistant.
The calmest part of the song is from 00:40:273 - to 00:51:473 -, so 00:49:473 (1) - and 00:50:273 (3) - isn't at all necessary, I strongly recommend you to delete such notes to be consistent with your previous patterns.
From 00:22:673 - to 00:25:573 - why whistle when you can add better hitsounds as JBH did, also sounds weird and isn't related with the song, same at 01:45:073 -
After that, I really like this diff, good job

SALAD

00:01:873 (1,2,3,1,2) - two problems, 00:01:873 (1,3) - boring cause is the same pattern, 00:03:073 (2,3) - 00:04:673 (1,2) - both jumps are from right to left, I won't say to change the whole pattern cause it might cause troubles to you, but at least try to add variety on sliders, I suggest you to remove 00:01:873 (1) - and copy 00:05:073 (2) - with ctrl+c and paste at 00:01:873 - with ctrl+v, finally press ctrl+g to 00:01:873 (1) -
00:07:873 (3,4) - add a little bit of more distance.
00:09:073 (1,2,3,1) - why 00:09:873 (2,3) - have more distance than 00:10:673 (3,1) - when the strongest sound is on 00:11:473 - ? but I know that you added more distance at 00:10:673 - cause there is a different sound compared to 00:09:073 - and 00:09:873 -, so to be coherent, I suggest you to move 00:10:673 (3) - to x:368.
00:21:073 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - quality yeah but looks weird when is too long, I recommend you to add more distance between 00:22:473 (4,1) -, move 00:22:673 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - to x:320
00:28:273 (2,3) - reduce the distance a bit, try to make something like 00:34:673 (3,4,5) -
00:33:073 (1,2) - the distance between such objects, shouldn't be around 1.60x
00:33:873 (2,3) - same as above but 1.40x?
00:45:373 (1,2,1) - one more time you have the same problem with patterns on the calmest part of the song, I'm wonder cause you added 1/4 patterns on this part but not on the rest of the song that is supposed to be more intense, Also I want to talk about the gap of notes between platter and salad, you should add more 1/4 tripplets to make a better introduction to the platter diff, for example at 00:07:973 - 00:33:173 - 00:51:173 - 00:58:773 - 01:18:373 - 01:24:773 - 01:24:873 - 01:32:773 - 01:51:973 -
00:53:073 - rather than reverse, add a jump at 00:53:073 - cause strong sound.
00:56:073 - I feel that you are skeeping an important sound here, 00:55:673 (5) - move the tail of such slider to the left, then add a reverse.
00:58:673 (5,1,2) - same distance between such sliders? there is a strong sound at 00:59:473 -, try to add more enphasis.
01:33:073 - Idk if you remenber my previous advice on cup's diff, the current patterns on kiai time are too repetitive, try to make some patterns as u did on 00:27:473 -
01:49:673 (4) - there isn't a strong sound but there are more distance between 01:49:073 (3,4) - than between 01:49:673 (4,1) -, to fix it I recommend you to add curve on 01:49:073 (3) -
01:52:273 - strong sound and u didn't enphasize, add more distance between 01:51:873 (3,1) -, around 2.00x it's fine.
01:55:473 (1,2,3,4) - don't u want to increase gradually the distance between each object? for example move 01:55:873 (2) - to x:304 and 01:56:673 (4) - to x:336
same as CUP about Hitsounds

JUSEN'S PLATTER

Ok primero que nada te quiero hablar de los spinners, yo mismo soy el que muchas veces dice que cada mapper es diferente y que no es necesario mantener un patron general cuando tienes muchas GD pero el spin que usas al comienzo ( 00:00:673 (1) - ) es muy corto para serte sincero, al ser muy corto tienes que buscar otro sonido que sea prominente, y es ahi donde tienes que seguir la vocal asi que el segundo motivo para que lo borres es que si te fijas en todas las demas diffs tu eres el unico que sigue instrumental, ya que las otras dificultades siguen la vocal al inicio, eso te dejara sin spinners pero tu como player sabes que un mapa de ctb sin Spinner no es muy divertido, asi que una vez mas quiero que mires en la diff JBH y uses el spin que el pone en 01:29:973 -, el break es demasiado largo y ya que tu diff es una instroduccion a una Rain necesitas aprovechar todos los sonidos al maximo para no dejar muchos vacios que se asemejen a una diff salad o cup, asi que de paso, mejoraras el spread del set.

No se si recordaras que una vez te hable de tres tipos de distancias, la distancia normal que va entre cada nota, la enfatizadora que son jumps sin hdash y los hyperdashes en si, te hago recordar esto porque al mirar tu intro me encuentro con demasiadas inconsistencias que tienes que fixear (ahora entiendo porque MB no quiere dar icono), primero quiero que reconozcas la cancion y que detectes que sonidos deben guardar consistencia entre si para poder saber donde usar bien tus hdashes, segundo pues creo que no es tu estilo usar siempre las mismas distancias, si no que te gusta variar para enfatizar mejor los sonidos, para esos casos no te dare distancias exactas si no aproximados, tercero seria tu estructura, pero la actual no me molesta para nada, como modder, interpreto tu estructura de forma ascendente, es decir primero empiezas con sliders largos de 1/1 y luego los vas separando en sliders de 1/2, y eso esta bien al menos en el intro.

1.- Empezemos de mayor a menor hablando del reconocimiento de tu cancion, tu intro esta separado en dos secciones, el punto intermedio es 00:08:273 - (si quieres puedes agregar bookmarks), de esas dos secciones la primera tambien esta separada en otras dos secciones y su punto intermedio es 00:05:073 -, el punto intermedio de la segunda seria en 00:11:473 -, si escuchas detenidamente todos los puntos que he cogido, te daras cuenta de que son sonidos muy fuertes (todos perfectos para usar hyperdashes), lo que tendrias que encontrar aqui es lo siguiente:

Actualmente solo te faltaria agregar un hyperdash en el medio de 00:08:073 (4,5) -.

2.- Luego de haber detectado los sonidos fuertes de manera satisfactoria, quiero que te enfoques en tus distancias ahora, y para eso vas a tener que detectar un nuevo sonido: 00:02:673 - 00:05:873 - 00:09:073 - 00:12:273 - son sonidos de bateria levemente fuertes verdad? se ve mejor si les pones una distancia de entre 2.00x hasta 2.40x, puedes jugar entre esas distancia segun el tipo de movimiento, por ejemplo si el movimiento es en zig-zag puedes usar una distancia mayor como en 00:02:273 (2,3,4) - , pero si el movimiento es recto puedes usar menos distancia como hicistes en 00:03:473 (6,7,1) -, hay un sonido de vocal mas que te esta confundiendo en varios patrones: 00:03:473 - 00:06:673 - 00:09:873 - 00:13:073 -, porque digo que te estan confundiendo, si comparas el vocal que hay en 00:09:873 - y el vocal de 00:05:073 - son muy parecidos pero como ya sabes uno es vocal solo y el otro es vocal acompañado de un instrumento fuerte, a pesar de eso a los dos les pusiste hdash, las cosas que debes de fixear en este caso serian los siguientes:

No entiendo porque 00:03:273 (5,6) - tiene mas distancia que 00:02:473 (3,4) -, se siente demasiado raro al jugarlo y es porque si comparas "sonidos" en si (no solo vocal, no solo instrumental), el sonido que esta en 00:02:673 - es mas fuerte que 00:03:473 -. Por lo que te recomiendo mover 00:01:873 (1,2,3) - hacia x:488 y 00:03:273 (5) - hacia x:192
00:04:073 (7,1,2) - este es otro patron que no cuadra, porque 00:04:273 (1,2) - tiene mas distancia cuando el sonido mas fuerte esta en 00:04:273 -? Yo te recomiendo mover 00:04:073 (7,1) - hacia x:136, 00:04:873 (2) - hacia x:160 y 00:05:073 (3) - hacia x:424
00:05:873 (1,2) - porque tanta distancia si no hay ningun sonido fuerte? no tiene sentido, porque mejor no agregas mas distancia entre 00:05:673 (4,1) -, muy a aparte de agregar distancia tambien seria bueno que le pongas una curva a 00:05:873 (1) - para que arregles el problema del espaciado entre 00:05:873 (1,2) -, y pues no se si me habras hecho caso en los puntos previos, pero seria bueno si mantienes las distancias parecidas a 00:02:473 (3,4,5,6) -
00:06:673 (3,1) - porque apilarlo teniendo tanto espacio hacia el otro lado? ademas de que te estas comiendo una nota en 00:07:273 -
00:08:873 (6,1) - una vez mas me parece injusto que estos objetos tengan menos distancia que 00:09:073 (1,2) - cuando el sonido de bateria que te mencione en la introduccion esta en 00:09:073 - y por consistencia con tus patrones anteriores deberias de ponerle mas distancia
00:09:473 (2,3) - si ya aplicaste el punto del consejo "1" donde te pedi que agregaras un hyperdash entre 00:08:073 (4,5) -, no crees que ya tienes demasiados hyperdashes en un intro de platter? muy aparte de que no tiene sentido, ya que hay sonidos incluso mas fuertes que este y no tienen un salto tan largo.
00:10:673 (1,2,3,4,1) - de lejos el mejor patron de todo el mapa, te va exigiendo poco a poco a atrapar con la esquina del plato y eso lo hace muy divertido, lo unico que si me gustaria es que agregues mas distancia entre 00:12:073 (2,3) - por esa bateria que te mencione antes en el intro, ya lo probe y si queda genial, noc como esten quedando las nuevas posiciones de las notas pero te aconsejaria que movieras 00:12:273 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - todo un poco mas hacia la izquierda, trata de que la distancia previa de todos esos objetos sea de entre 2.00x hasta 2.40x como ya te habia mencionado en el intro.

3.- Como ya te mencione, estoy conforme con tu estructura mas no a la forma que le has dado a tus objetos, obviamente cada mapper tiene su estilo y se preocupa mas por el movimiento en si que por como se vea el patron, para este caso solo te quiero sugerir una cosa:

00:02:473 (3,4,5,6) - por si ya te habras dado cuenta, este movimiento es repetitivo y de muy poca calidad, yo te recomiendo lo siguiente: 00:01:873 (1,2,3,4) - aprieta Ctrl+H y luego hasle una curva perfecta a 00:02:673 (4) -, trata de que sea una curva muy jorobada y que la cabeza y la cola del slider coincidan en el mismo axis (x), luego de eso creo que ya en los puntos anteriores te he mencionado cual es la distancia aproximada entre 00:02:673 (4,5,6) -.

00:21:073 (1,2,3,4) - 00:21:873 (1,2,3,4) - agregales una curva decente, parece que los hubieras hecho sin ganas, incluso 00:21:273 (2,3,4) - parece un apilado.
00:27:473 - ahi hay un sonido muy fuerte que muy bien pudo haber tenido hyperdash, para estos casos muchas veces se puede obviar el sonido que hay en 00:27:373 - y cortar el stream en 00:27:273 - para poder agregar el hyperdash ya que solo hyperdashes en 1/2 estan permitidos en una platter, Ademas por consistencia a los sonidos que estan en 00:05:073 - 00:08:273 - 00:11:473 -
00:34:473 (3,4) - demasiado juntos, parecen apilados, separalos al menos un poco mas.

Desde 00:40:273 - hasta 00:52:273 - es probablemente la parte mas calmada del mapa, y al ver la estructura junto con los jumps, hay algo que no cuadra, y es que no estas enfatizando los golpes de bateria ni siguiendo los ecos instrumentales, incluso hay inconsistencias que son muy notorias y que deberias echarle un ojo. Solo te hablare de estructura en esta parte ya que es el problema principal, pero a la hora que remapees, quiero que consideres ponerle 1.50x a tus distancias normales como hiciste en 00:41:473 (5,6,7) - y a los golpes fuertes de bateria enfatizarlo con 2.30x como lo hiciste en 00:43:873 (2,3) -

00:40:273 (2) - quiero empezar con este porque al escuchar el instumental me doy cuenta de que el instrumento tiene un eco, ademas de que la transicion deberia ser mas calmada ya que entras a una parte lenta, y es ahi donde me fijo en tu siguiente nota que vendria a ser 00:40:673 (3) -, es realmente necesario agregar una distancia asi donde no hay ni sonido fuerte en 00:40:673 -, ni intensidad en la cancion como para agregar tansiquiera un jump? mi consejo seria el siguiente: que 00:40:273 (2,3) - se vuelvan un solo slider para seguir mejor el instrumental.
00:40:873 (4,5) - detras de el consejo anterior, habia una segunda intencion, ya que queria que mejoraras esta parte tambien, es por eso que quiero que testees atentamente tu patron en 00:43:873 (2,3) - y luego testees los objectos que te seleccione al principio. Obviamente el que suena / se ve / se juega mejor es 00:43:873 (2,3) - y de lejos, porque no enfatizaste el sonido de bateria en 00:41:073 -? puede que la estructura sea repetitiva pero tienes que seguir el mismo ritmo para mentener una buena consistencia, el consejo es que elimines 00:40:873 (4) - y pongas una nota, luego puedes retroceder 00:41:473 (5) - hasta 00:41:073 - y sacarle un reverse.
00:42:273 (6,7,1) - aca si debes guardar la misma estructura que 00:43:873 (2,3) - y con eso quedaria hermoso, derrepente puedes hacerle un espejismo, eliminar 00:42:273 (6,7,1) - y luego copiar 00:43:873 (2,3) - y pegarlo en 00:42:273 -, luego de eso aprietale Ctrl+H, para tener un buen patron solido y consistente, te recomiendo que a ese patron que le pusistes Ctrl+H lo lleves todo lo que puedas hasta la izquierda ( mas o menos hasta x:220 ), y el otro hacia la derecha ( mas o menos hasta x:290 ), de tal modo que la distancia de 00:43:873 (8) - con la nota previa sea alrededor de 1.16x.
00:46:473 (2,3) - para mantener consistencia con los sonidos, me sorprende el porque de no agregar hyperdash ahi, cuando tienes un sonido muy fuerte en 00:46:673 -, similar o el mismo a 00:40:273 -, y si te das cuenta ahi si agregaste hyperdash.
00:46:673 (3,4,5) - bueno esta historia es la misma que te mencione hace un rato, espero que guardes consistencia aqui tambien, lo dejo en tus manos.
00:48:673 (2,3,1) - esto tmb, tratalo de hacer como 00:43:873 (2,3) -, ya depende de ti.
00:51:373 (8) - te recomiendo enormemente que elimines esa nota, primero que nada, no hay sonido ahi, segundo que por ponerla estas evitando el hyperdash que deberia ir entre 00:51:273 (7,1) -.

00:58:873 (2,3) - manten una distancia alrededor o igual a la distancia entre 00:58:073 (4,5) - para tener un mejor balance.
00:59:373 (4) - eliminala y ponle un hyperdash entre 00:59:073 (3,1) - para que guardes consistencia con tus hyperdashes previos.
01:05:673 (3,1) - porque hyperdash ahi? deberia ser entre 01:05:873 (1,2) -, 01:06:273 - este sonido ya es tipico de hyperdash en tu diff, manten esa consistencia.
01:11:473 (3,4,5,6) - cuando hagas este tipo de patron trata de que tenga sentido, recuerdo haberte elogiado por lo que hiciste en 00:10:673 (1,2,3,4) - pero aqui me decepcionaste.
01:18:573 (7) - una vez mas te quiero mencionar algo acerca de los streams en platter, no solo en ctb si no en las diffs hard de std tambien, a veces hay que recortar el stream para poder agregar un salto y seguir al golpe mas fuerte, es muy raro que tengas un golpe de platillo sin enfatizar, eso se nota a simple test, por eso elimina esta nota y agregale un hyper entre 01:18:473 (6,1) -.
01:29:873 (4) - elimina esa nota ya que no hay sonido, y recuerda lo que te dije en el principio del mod acerca del spin.
01:32:873 (5,6,1) - es inicio de kiai, la parte con mayor intencidad y no vas a agregarle hyper dash? ya sabes lo que tienes que hacer con 01:32:973 (6) -

El kiai hasta cierto punto me gusta pero hay otra cosa que me causa dudas, si comparas la densidad de notas de la rain de JBHyperion con tu platter, te daras cuenta de que la brecha es inmensa, ya que mientras el usa puro stream tu solo usas sliders en 1/2, mi consejo seria aumentar la cantidad de objetos, por ejemplo que te parece cambiar 01:34:673 (1) - 01:36:273 (5) - a streams, guarda la diff, crea otra nueva con los mismos objetos y intenta apretarle Ctrl+Shift+F a los slider que te dije, suenan bien y tendras un mejor balance creeme, pero ahi no acabaria, 01:37:873 (3,4,5) - eso tmb deberia ser stream, 01:41:073 (3) - deberia ser stream y agregar una nota en 01:41:373 - y por ultimo 01:42:673 (1) - tmb deberia ser stream, lo dejo a tu criterio, como te aconsejo, crea otra dificultad con las mismas notas y aplicalo, si te gusta y al compararlo con la rain tiene un mejor balance pues te lo queda, pero si no te gusta pues simplemente borras la diff nueva y te quedas con tu patron actual.

01:47:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - porque tan diferente si escucho lo mismo que 01:45:873 (1) -, 01:47:073 (1) - borralo y agrega una nota en 01:47:073 -, luego ya sabes que seria mejor si usas 01:45:873 (1) - para tener una mejor consistencia.

Espero que se me entienda, si te hice el mod tan largo fue porque quise aprovechar que los dos hablamos el mismo idioma y se me entienda mejor, ademas no me gustaria que vuelvas a cometer los mismos errores en otros mapas, para mi hubiera sido facil decirte, acorta la distancia aqui, aca usa hyperdash, aca no, etc, pero no sabrias el porque, solo trato de ayudar y espero no me lo tomes a mal, Mucha suerte.

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION

why 00:02:673 (3,4,5) - is not mirroring to 00:01:873 (1,2) -? take a look at 00:08:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - as a reference, the current transition between 00:02:473 (2,3) - is too straigh and doesn't feel the movement with the song propertly, I suggest you to press Ctrl+H at 00:02:673 (3,4,5) - and move to x:396 to keep your same distance.
00:16:973 (3) - isn't necessary, I can't find a prominent sound here, now if you want to keep such note I recommend you to move around x:224 cause the distance between 00:16:673 (2,3) - is too long and looks unsightly.
Depends of what do you think about my previous suggestion, I want to point out the following pattern: 00:14:673 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - maybe you are asking you what's wrong if you're following the music really well with a nice structure, that's true but the relation between each slider feels random tbh, except for 00:17:873 (1,2,3,4) -, and taking this as an example I want to give you 2 options to inprove this part:
1.- The first one as I said comes with my example in 00:17:873 (1,2,3,4) -, you can separate sliders in couples and add hyperdashes between they, for example: 00:15:073 (2,3) - 00:15:873 (4,1) - need a hyperdash in between, there is a different sound at 00:20:273 - that deserve hyperdash too, so you could remove the current hyperdash between 00:19:473 (1,2) - and add between 00:19:873 (2,3) -, furthermore it would be better if you remove 00:16:973 (3) - but keeping the hyperdash between 00:16:673 (2,4) - to keep a better consistency
2.- The second one comes to my mind after remove 00:16:973 (3) - too, I'd prefer a smoother transition from a restful rhythm to a stronger rhythm, that's why I suggest you to separate 4 sliders then hyperdash (twice), then to increase the challenge two sliders and hayperdash (twice), let's try with your patterns: 00:15:873 (4,1) - add hyperdash, 00:16:973 (3) - remove the note and the hyperdash, same as the first suggestion I strongly recommend you to remove the hyperdash between 00:19:473 (1,2) - and add between 00:19:873 (2,3) -.
00:43:973 (2) - it's necessary at all, remove it, I didn't say that there isn't a sound, but if you didn't follow previously at 00:42:373 - and 00:42:573 -, there reason is consistency.
from 01:19:473 - to 01:20:273 - is 1/3 right? why you stopped at 01:19:873 -? I strongly recommend you to move 01:20:073 (5) - to 01:20:006 - and then add a note at 01:20:139 -, the current one sounds and looks weird.

Hope to help you bro, best of lucks~~

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2016-10-15T23:10:02+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:
HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
why 00:02:673 (3,4,5) - is not mirroring to 00:01:873 (1,2) -? take a look at 00:08:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - as a reference, the current transition between 00:02:473 (2,3) - is too straigh and doesn't feel the movement with the song propertly, I suggest you to press Ctrl+H at 00:02:673 (3,4,5) - and move to x:396 to keep your same distance. (3) requires normal flow as the vocal sound is strong but not sharp, I don't feel antiflow fits well here, especially since it's the start of the map. Secondly, (4,5) is mapped differently to highlight the vocal sound on (4) and scratch sound on (5)
00:16:973 (3) - isn't necessary, I can't find a prominent sound here, now if you want to keep such note I recommend you to move around x:224 cause the distance between 00:16:673 (2,3) - is too long and looks unsightly. Keeping for the 1/4 cymbal sound which is more prominent here than other places, and to break up the monotony of 1/2 sliders. I did reduce the spacing by moving (3) to x-232 to be consistent with other similar spacings however
Depends of what do you think about my previous suggestion, I want to point out the following pattern: 00:14:673 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - maybe you are asking you what's wrong if you're following the music really well with a nice structure, that's true but the relation between each slider feels random tbh, except for 00:17:873 (1,2,3,4) -, and taking this as an example I want to give you 2 options to inprove this part:
1.- The first one as I said comes with my example in 00:17:873 (1,2,3,4) -, you can separate sliders in couples and add hyperdashes between they, for example: 00:15:073 (2,3) - 00:15:873 (4,1) - need a hyperdash in between, there is a different sound at 00:20:273 - that deserve hyperdash too, so you could remove the current hyperdash between 00:19:473 (1,2) - and add between 00:19:873 (2,3) -, furthermore it would be better if you remove 00:16:973 (3) - but keeping the hyperdash between 00:16:673 (2,4) - to keep a better consistency
2.- The second one comes to my mind after remove 00:16:973 (3) - too, I'd prefer a smoother transition from a restful rhythm to a stronger rhythm, that's why I suggest you to separate 4 sliders then hyperdash (twice), then to increase the challenge two sliders and hayperdash (twice), let's try with your patterns: 00:15:873 (4,1) - add hyperdash, 00:16:973 (3) - remove the note and the hyperdash, same as the first suggestion I strongly recommend you to remove the hyperdash between 00:19:473 (1,2) - and add between 00:19:873 (2,3) -.

Added hdashes to 00:15:073 (2,3) - 00:15:873 (4,1) - for the strong vocal, removed the hdash between 00:16:973 (3,4) - since the vocal is soft here, emphasis should be more fitting now
00:43:973 (2) - it's necessary at all, remove it, I didn't say that there isn't a sound, but if you didn't follow previously at 00:42:373 - and 00:42:573 -, there reason is consistency. No circle was added at those two places because there isn't a sound there. The cymbal sound on 00:43:973 (2) - is clearly audible however, so I mapped it here
from 01:19:473 - to 01:20:273 - is 1/3 right? why you stopped at 01:19:873 -? I strongly recommend you to move 01:20:073 (5) - to 01:20:006 - and then add a note at 01:20:139 -, the current one sounds and looks weird. I prefer the switch to 1/2 to hit the heavy kick drum sound on the red tick at 01:20:073 (5) - I mapped the scratch in 1/3 at 01:19:473 (3) - because there was no other more prominent sound here to map

Hope to help you bro, best of lucks~~

Thanks for the suggestions! Also fixed some awkward sliders via self-modding.

Rain

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SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-16T00:54:17+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:
SYAHME wrote:
I hope I don't have to create 1 more diff between platter and redemption. Its will take more time to map and mod. Furthermore, I don't like 2 insane diff in my maps.
Let's see if I can do something with my mod - :3

CUP
You are following vocal the most part of the song and it's the main problem of your diff, I'll explain you why. If you take a look from 00:27:473 - to 00:40:273 - and then compare with kiai time from 01:33:073 - to 01:58:673 -, the intensity of the melody is the same, but you mapped totally different cause the first one doesn't have vocal, keep consistency at least on the same amount of notes to be consistant. - I will refer to BN or pro-modder regarding this, thanks.
The calmest part of the song is from 00:40:273 - to 00:51:473 -, so 00:49:473 (1) - and 00:50:273 (3) - isn't at all necessary, I strongly recommend you to delete such notes to be consistent with your previous patterns. - I think I want to keep it.
From 00:22:673 - to 00:25:573 - why whistle when you can add better hitsounds as JBH did, also sounds weird and isn't related with the song, same at 01:45:073 - I like whistle, standard maps mostly used this so I think its not that bad.
After that, I really like this diff, good job - Thank you

SALAD
00:01:873 (1,2,3,1,2) - two problems, 00:01:873 (1,3) - boring cause is the same pattern, 00:03:073 (2,3) - 00:04:673 (1,2) - both jumps are from right to left, I won't say to change the whole pattern cause it might cause troubles to you, but at least try to add variety on sliders, I suggest you to remove 00:01:873 (1) - and copy 00:05:073 (2) - with ctrl+c and paste at 00:01:873 - with ctrl+v, finally press ctrl+g to 00:01:873 (1) - Nice, followed as suggested.
00:07:873 (3,4) - add a little bit of more distance. - Change pattern and increased distance.
00:09:073 (1,2,3,1) - why 00:09:873 (2,3) - have more distance than 00:10:673 (3,1) - when the strongest sound is on 00:11:473 - ? but I know that you added more distance at 00:10:673 - cause there is a different sound compared to 00:09:073 - and 00:09:873 -, so to be coherent, I suggest you to move 00:10:673 (3) - to x:368. - Nice, done.
00:21:073 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - quality yeah but looks weird when is too long, I recommend you to add more distance between 00:22:473 (4,1) -, move 00:22:673 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - to x:320 - Sorry, but I like this style and I want the pattern consistent with each other. If I add more distance its still same.
00:28:273 (2,3) - reduce the distance a bit, try to make something like 00:34:673 (3,4,5) - Done
00:33:073 (1,2) - the distance between such objects, shouldn't be around 1.60x - Increased the distance.
00:33:873 (2,3) - same as above but 1.40x? - I think the distance is okay.
00:45:373 (1,2,1) - one more time you have the same problem with patterns on the calmest part of the song, I'm wonder cause you added 1/4 patterns on this part but not on the rest of the song that is supposed to be more intense, Also I want to talk about the gap of notes between platter and salad, you should add more 1/4 tripplets to make a better introduction to the platter diff, for example at 00:07:973 - 00:33:173 - 00:51:173 - 00:58:773 - 01:18:373 - 01:24:773 - 01:24:873 - 01:32:773 - 01:51:973 - All done.
00:53:073 - rather than reverse, add a jump at 00:53:073 - cause strong sound. - Done
00:56:073 - I feel that you are skeeping an important sound here, 00:55:673 (5) - move the tail of such slider to the left, then add a reverse. - Done
00:58:673 (5,1,2) - same distance between such sliders? there is a strong sound at 00:59:473 -, try to add more enphasis. - Done
01:33:073 - Idk if you remenber my previous advice on cup's diff, the current patterns on kiai time are too repetitive, try to make some patterns as u did on 00:27:473 - I actually make the pattern repetitive on purpose, this is my style.
01:49:673 (4) - there isn't a strong sound but there are more distance between 01:49:073 (3,4) - than between 01:49:673 (4,1) -, to fix it I recommend you to add curve on 01:49:073 (3) - Done
01:52:273 - strong sound and u didn't enphasize, add more distance between 01:51:873 (3,1) -, around 2.00x it's fine. - The current pattern didn't allowed me to add more distance.
01:55:473 (1,2,3,4) - don't u want to increase gradually the distance between each object? for example move 01:55:873 (2) - to x:304 and 01:56:673 (4) - to x:336 - I changed in my own distance.
same as CUP about Hitsounds - Same as cup.

Hope to help you bro, best of lucks~~

Thanks for the mod.

Last edited by SYAHME 2016-10-19T12:21:58+00:00, edited 8 times in total.

SYAHME

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Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-16T03:30:39+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:

-Sh1n1- wrote:
HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
why 00:02:673 (3,4,5) - is not mirroring to 00:01:873 (1,2) -? take a look at 00:08:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - as a reference, the current transition between 00:02:473 (2,3) - is too straigh and doesn't feel the movement with the song propertly, I suggest you to press Ctrl+H at 00:02:673 (3,4,5) - and move to x:396 to keep your same distance. (3) requires normal flow as the vocal sound is strong but not sharp, I don't feel antiflow fits well here, especially since it's the start of the map. Secondly, (4,5) is mapped differently to highlight the vocal sound on (4) and scratch sound on (5)
00:16:973 (3) - isn't necessary, I can't find a prominent sound here, now if you want to keep such note I recommend you to move around x:224 cause the distance between 00:16:673 (2,3) - is too long and looks unsightly. Keeping for the 1/4 cymbal sound which is more prominent here than other places, and to break up the monotony of 1/2 sliders. I did reduce the spacing by moving (3) to x-232 to be consistent with other similar spacings however
Depends of what do you think about my previous suggestion, I want to point out the following pattern: 00:14:673 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - maybe you are asking you what's wrong if you're following the music really well with a nice structure, that's true but the relation between each slider feels random tbh, except for 00:17:873 (1,2,3,4) -, and taking this as an example I want to give you 2 options to inprove this part:
1.- The first one as I said comes with my example in 00:17:873 (1,2,3,4) -, you can separate sliders in couples and add hyperdashes between they, for example: 00:15:073 (2,3) - 00:15:873 (4,1) - need a hyperdash in between, there is a different sound at 00:20:273 - that deserve hyperdash too, so you could remove the current hyperdash between 00:19:473 (1,2) - and add between 00:19:873 (2,3) -, furthermore it would be better if you remove 00:16:973 (3) - but keeping the hyperdash between 00:16:673 (2,4) - to keep a better consistency
2.- The second one comes to my mind after remove 00:16:973 (3) - too, I'd prefer a smoother transition from a restful rhythm to a stronger rhythm, that's why I suggest you to separate 4 sliders then hyperdash (twice), then to increase the challenge two sliders and hayperdash (twice), let's try with your patterns: 00:15:873 (4,1) - add hyperdash, 00:16:973 (3) - remove the note and the hyperdash, same as the first suggestion I strongly recommend you to remove the hyperdash between 00:19:473 (1,2) - and add between 00:19:873 (2,3) -.

Added hdashes to 00:15:073 (2,3) - 00:15:873 (4,1) - for the strong vocal, removed the hdash between 00:16:973 (3,4) - since the vocal is soft here, emphasis should be more fitting now
00:43:973 (2) - it's necessary at all, remove it, I didn't say that there isn't a sound, but if you didn't follow previously at 00:42:373 - and 00:42:573 -, there reason is consistency. No circle was added at those two places because there isn't a sound there. The cymbal sound on 00:43:973 (2) - is clearly audible however, so I mapped it here
from 01:19:473 - to 01:20:273 - is 1/3 right? why you stopped at 01:19:873 -? I strongly recommend you to move 01:20:073 (5) - to 01:20:006 - and then add a note at 01:20:139 -, the current one sounds and looks weird. I prefer the switch to 1/2 to hit the heavy kick drum sound on the red tick at 01:20:073 (5) - I mapped the scratch in 1/3 at 01:19:473 (3) - because there was no other more prominent sound here to map

Hope to help you bro, best of lucks~~

Thanks for the suggestions! Also fixed some awkward sliders via self-modding.

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Kurokami

osu! Alumni

4,024 posts

Joined February 2010

Kurokami 2016-10-17T13:47:18+00:00

Thats a huge amount.

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-17T14:49:56+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
Thats a huge amount.

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-10-17T15:01:57+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
Thats a huge amount.

textwalls are fun yo /o/

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-10-18T02:59:30+00:00

Let's see if I can do something with my mod

JUSEN'S PLATTER

Ok primero que nada te quiero hablar de los spinners, yo mismo soy el que muchas veces dice que cada mapper es diferente y que no es necesario mantener un patron general cuando tienes muchas GD pero el spin que usas al comienzo ( 00:00:673 (1) - ) es muy corto para serte sincero, al ser muy corto tienes que buscar otro sonido que sea prominente, y es ahi donde tienes que seguir la vocal asi que el segundo motivo para que lo borres es que si te fijas en todas las demas diffs tu eres el unico que sigue instrumental, ya que las otras dificultades siguen la vocal al inicio, eso te dejara sin spinners pero tu como player sabes que un mapa de ctb sin Spinner no es muy divertido, asi que una vez mas quiero que mires en la diff JBH y uses el spin que el pone en 01:29:973 -, el break es demasiado largo y ya que tu diff es una instroduccion a una Rain necesitas aprovechar todos los sonidos al maximo para no dejar muchos vacios que se asemejen a una diff salad o cup, asi que de paso, mejoraras el spread del set. Bien, fue sustituido por un slider para dar una enfatización a la siguiente nota.

No se si recordaras que una vez te hable de tres tipos de distancias, la distancia normal que va entre cada nota, la enfatizadora que son jumps sin hdash y los hyperdashes en si, te hago recordar esto porque al mirar tu intro me encuentro con demasiadas inconsistencias que tienes que fixear (ahora entiendo porque MB no quiere dar icono), primero quiero que reconozcas la cancion y que detectes que sonidos deben guardar consistencia entre si para poder saber donde usar bien tus hdashes, segundo pues creo que no es tu estilo usar siempre las mismas distancias, si no que te gusta variar para enfatizar mejor los sonidos, para esos casos no te dare distancias exactas si no aproximados, tercero seria tu estructura, pero la actual no me molesta para nada, como modder, interpreto tu estructura de forma ascendente, es decir primero empiezas con sliders largos de 1/1 y luego los vas separando en sliders de 1/2, y eso esta bien al menos en el intro. Sí, recuerdo lo de las distancias, pero era una de mis primeras "Platters" aún no me familiarizaba con las distancias, tomaré en cuenta todo esto para futuros mapsets.

1.- Empezemos de mayor a menor hablando del reconocimiento de tu cancion, tu intro esta separado en dos secciones, el punto intermedio es 00:08:273 - (si quieres puedes agregar bookmarks), de esas dos secciones la primera tambien esta separada en otras dos secciones y su punto intermedio es 00:05:073 -, el punto intermedio de la segunda seria en 00:11:473 -, si escuchas detenidamente todos los puntos que he cogido, te daras cuenta de que son sonidos muy fuertes (todos perfectos para usar hyperdashes), lo que tendrias que encontrar aqui es lo siguiente:

Actualmente solo te faltaria agregar un hyperdash en el medio de 00:08:073 (4,5) -. HDash agregado.

No entiendo porque 00:03:273 (5,6) - tiene mas distancia que 00:02:473 (3,4) -, se siente demasiado raro al jugarlo y es porque si comparas "sonidos" en si (no solo vocal, no solo instrumental), el sonido que esta en 00:02:673 - es mas fuerte que 00:03:473 -. Por lo que te recomiendo mover 00:01:873 (1,2,3) - hacia x:488 y 00:03:273 (5) - hacia x:192 Hecho acorde a tus sugerencias.
00:04:073 (7,1,2) - este es otro patron que no cuadra, porque 00:04:273 (1,2) - tiene mas distancia cuando el sonido mas fuerte esta en 00:04:273 -? Yo te recomiendo mover 00:04:073 (7,1) - hacia x:136, 00:04:873 (2) - hacia x:160 y 00:05:073 (3) - hacia x:424 Hecho, se ve bastante bien.
00:05:873 (1,2) - porque tanta distancia si no hay ningun sonido fuerte? no tiene sentido, porque mejor no agregas mas distancia entre 00:05:673 (4,1) -, muy a aparte de agregar distancia tambien seria bueno que le pongas una curva a 00:05:873 (1) - para que arregles el problema del espaciado entre 00:05:873 (1,2) -, y pues no se si me habras hecho caso en los puntos previos, pero seria bueno si mantienes las distancias parecidas a 00:02:473 (3,4,5,6) Distancias agregadas, fueron algo similares pero lucen bastante bien.-
00:06:673 (3,1) - porque apilarlo teniendo tanto espacio hacia el otro lado? ademas de que te estas comiendo una nota en 00:07:273 - El patrón tenía forma de curva solo esas 2 notas hacía que fuese apilado, lo hice de nuevo y quedó mucho mejor.
00:08:873 (6,1) - una vez mas me parece injusto que estos objetos tengan menos distancia que 00:09:073 (1,2) - cuando el sonido de bateria que te mencione en la introduccion esta en 00:09:073 - y por consistencia con tus patrones anteriores deberias de ponerle mas distancia Más distancia en camino.
00:09:473 (2,3) - si ya aplicaste el punto del consejo "1" donde te pedi que agregaras un hyperdash entre 00:08:073 (4,5) -, no crees que ya tienes demasiados hyperdashes en un intro de platter? muy aparte de que no tiene sentido, ya que hay sonidos incluso mas fuertes que este y no tienen un salto tan largo. Bien, solo son 3 HDashes al inicio contando éste serían 4 y podría agregar otro más para que tenga una semejanza con el 4to HDash, el 5 lo agregué 00:12:673 (4,1) - aquí.
00:10:673 (1,2,3,4,1) - de lejos el mejor patron de todo el mapa, te va exigiendo poco a poco a atrapar con la esquina del plato y eso lo hace muy divertido, lo unico que si me gustaria es que agregues mas distancia entre 00:12:073 (2,3) - por esa bateria que te mencione antes en el intro, ya lo probe y si queda genial, noc como esten quedando las nuevas posiciones de las notas pero te aconsejaria que movieras 00:12:273 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - todo un poco mas hacia la izquierda, trata de que la distancia previa de todos esos objetos sea de entre 2.00x hasta 2.40x como ya te habia mencionado en el intro. Bien no tengo problema alguno con ésta sección es muy buena, solo hice algunos ajustes en las distancias.

00:02:473 (3,4,5,6) - por si ya te habras dado cuenta, este movimiento es repetitivo y de muy poca calidad, yo te recomiendo lo siguiente: 00:01:873 (1,2,3,4) - aprieta Ctrl+H y luego hasle una curva perfecta a 00:02:673 (4) -, trata de que sea una curva muy jorobada y que la cabeza y la cola del slider coincidan en el mismo axis (x), luego de eso creo que ya en los puntos anteriores te he mencionado cual es la distancia aproximada entre 00:02:673 (4,5,6) -. Hecho acorde a tus sugerencias.

00:21:073 (1,2,3,4) - 00:21:873 (1,2,3,4) - agregales una curva decente, parece que los hubieras hecho sin ganas, incluso 00:21:273 (2,3,4) - parece un apilado. No tengo tanto problema con esto, pero bueno para evitarlos lo hice de nuevo, quedó mucho mejor.
00:27:473 - ahi hay un sonido muy fuerte que muy bien pudo haber tenido hyperdash, para estos casos muchas veces se puede obviar el sonido que hay en 00:27:373 - y cortar el stream en 00:27:273 - para poder agregar el hyperdash ya que solo hyperdashes en 1/2 estan permitidos en una platter, Ademas por consistencia a los sonidos que estan en 00:05:073 - 00:08:273 - 00:11:473 - ME gustaría agregar un HDash en esa sección, encajaría bastante bien, pero a mí gusto quiero tener un poco más de variedad, ya tengo 5 HDashes en el inicio, agregar otro provocaría un desbalance, prefiero dejar el stream.
00:34:473 (3,4) - demasiado juntos, parecen apilados, separalos al menos un poco mas. Distancia agregada.

00:40:273 (2) - quiero empezar con este porque al escuchar el instumental me doy cuenta de que el instrumento tiene un eco, ademas de que la transicion deberia ser mas calmada ya que entras a una parte lenta, y es ahi donde me fijo en tu siguiente nota que vendria a ser 00:40:673 (3) -, es realmente necesario agregar una distancia asi donde no hay ni sonido fuerte en 00:40:673 -, ni intensidad en la cancion como para agregar tansiquiera un jump? mi consejo seria el siguiente: que 00:40:273 (2,3) - se vuelvan un solo slider para seguir mejor el instrumental. Fue fixeado con las sugerencias que mencionaste ^.
00:40:873 (4,5) - detras de el consejo anterior, habia una segunda intencion, ya que queria que mejoraras esta parte tambien, es por eso que quiero que testees atentamente tu patron en 00:43:873 (2,3) - y luego testees los objectos que te seleccione al principio. Obviamente el que suena / se ve / se juega mejor es 00:43:873 (2,3) - y de lejos, porque no enfatizaste el sonido de bateria en 00:41:073 -? puede que la estructura sea repetitiva pero tienes que seguir el mismo ritmo para mentener una buena consistencia, el consejo es que elimines 00:40:873 (4) - y pongas una nota, luego puedes retroceder 00:41:473 (5) - hasta 00:41:073 - y sacarle un reverse. Hice algo similar a ésto.
00:42:273 (6,7,1) - aca si debes guardar la misma estructura que 00:43:873 (2,3) - y con eso quedaria hermoso, derrepente puedes hacerle un espejismo, eliminar 00:42:273 (6,7,1) - y luego copiar 00:43:873 (2,3) - y pegarlo en 00:42:273 -, luego de eso aprietale Ctrl+H, para tener un buen patron solido y consistente, te recomiendo que a ese patron que le pusistes Ctrl+H lo lleves todo lo que puedas hasta la izquierda ( mas o menos hasta x:220 ), y el otro hacia la derecha ( mas o menos hasta x:290 ), de tal modo que la distancia de 00:43:873 (8) - con la nota previa sea alrededor de 1.16x. Fue arreglado con las sugerencias previas al "mod".
00:46:473 (2,3) - para mantener consistencia con los sonidos, me sorprende el porque de no agregar hyperdash ahi, cuando tienes un sonido muy fuerte en 00:46:673 -, similar o el mismo a 00:40:273 -, y si te das cuenta ahi si agregaste hyperdash. Me gustaría añadir un HDash, pero siendo una zona "calmada" prefiero dejarlo como Dash.
00:46:673 (3,4,5) - bueno esta historia es la misma que te mencione hace un rato, espero que guardes consistencia aqui tambien, lo dejo en tus manos. Hecho.
00:48:673 (2,3,1) - esto tmb, tratalo de hacer como 00:43:873 (2,3) -, ya depende de ti. Hice algo similar.
00:51:373 (8) - te recomiendo enormemente que elimines esa nota, primero que nada, no hay sonido ahi, segundo que por ponerla estas evitando el hyperdash que deberia ir entre 00:51:273 (7,1) -. Eliminé la nota 8 para hacer el HDash como enfatización para la nueva estrofa.

00:58:873 (2,3) - manten una distancia alrededor o igual a la distancia entre 00:58:073 (4,5) - para tener un mejor balance. Hecho.
00:59:373 (4) - eliminala y ponle un hyperdash entre 00:59:073 (3,1) - para que guardes consistencia con tus hyperdashes previos. Hecho.
01:05:673 (3,1) - porque hyperdash ahi? deberia ser entre 01:05:873 (1,2) -, 01:06:273 - este sonido ya es tipico de hyperdash en tu diff, manten esa consistencia. Estuve probando y me gustaría que los 2 fuesen dashes, siento que enfatizan mejor pese a la consistencia con ese sonido.
01:11:473 (3,4,5,6) - cuando hagas este tipo de patron trata de que tenga sentido, recuerdo haberte elogiado por lo que hiciste en 00:10:673 (1,2,3,4) - pero aqui me decepcionaste. Lo haré de nuevo.
01:18:573 (7) - una vez mas te quiero mencionar algo acerca de los streams en platter, no solo en ctb si no en las diffs hard de std tambien, a veces hay que recortar el stream para poder agregar un salto y seguir al golpe mas fuerte, es muy raro que tengas un golpe de platillo sin enfatizar, eso se nota a simple test, por eso elimina esta nota y agregale un hyper entre 01:18:473 (6,1) -. HDash agregado.
01:29:873 (4) - elimina esa nota ya que no hay sonido, y recuerda lo que te dije en el principio del mod acerca del spin. Hecho.
01:32:873 (5,6,1) - es inicio de kiai, la parte con mayor intencidad y no vas a agregarle hyper dash? ya sabes lo que tienes que hacer con 01:32:973 (6) -Hecho~

01:47:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - porque tan diferente si escucho lo mismo que 01:45:873 (1) -, 01:47:073 (1) - borralo y agrega una nota en 01:47:073 -, luego ya sabes que seria mejor si usas 01:45:873 (1) - para tener una mejor consistencia. No entendí muy bien ésta parte pero espero haberla hecho al pie de la letra.

Hope to help you bro, best of lucks~~

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SYAHME

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SYAHME 2016-10-18T04:51:04+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:
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Let's see if I can do something with my mod

JUSEN'S PLATTER
Ok primero que nada te quiero hablar de los spinners, yo mismo soy el que muchas veces dice que cada mapper es diferente y que no es necesario mantener un patron general cuando tienes muchas GD pero el spin que usas al comienzo ( 00:00:673 (1) - ) es muy corto para serte sincero, al ser muy corto tienes que buscar otro sonido que sea prominente, y es ahi donde tienes que seguir la vocal asi que el segundo motivo para que lo borres es que si te fijas en todas las demas diffs tu eres el unico que sigue instrumental, ya que las otras dificultades siguen la vocal al inicio, eso te dejara sin spinners pero tu como player sabes que un mapa de ctb sin Spinner no es muy divertido, asi que una vez mas quiero que mires en la diff JBH y uses el spin que el pone en 01:29:973 -, el break es demasiado largo y ya que tu diff es una instroduccion a una Rain necesitas aprovechar todos los sonidos al maximo para no dejar muchos vacios que se asemejen a una diff salad o cup, asi que de paso, mejoraras el spread del set. Bien, fue sustituido por un slider para dar una enfatización a la siguiente nota.
No se si recordaras que una vez te hable de tres tipos de distancias, la distancia normal que va entre cada nota, la enfatizadora que son jumps sin hdash y los hyperdashes en si, te hago recordar esto porque al mirar tu intro me encuentro con demasiadas inconsistencias que tienes que fixear (ahora entiendo porque MB no quiere dar icono), primero quiero que reconozcas la cancion y que detectes que sonidos deben guardar consistencia entre si para poder saber donde usar bien tus hdashes, segundo pues creo que no es tu estilo usar siempre las mismas distancias, si no que te gusta variar para enfatizar mejor los sonidos, para esos casos no te dare distancias exactas si no aproximados, tercero seria tu estructura, pero la actual no me molesta para nada, como modder, interpreto tu estructura de forma ascendente, es decir primero empiezas con sliders largos de 1/1 y luego los vas separando en sliders de 1/2, y eso esta bien al menos en el intro. Sí, recuerdo lo de las distancias, pero era una de mis primeras "Platters" aún no me familiarizaba con las distancias, tomaré en cuenta todo esto para futuros mapsets.

1.- Empezemos de mayor a menor hablando del reconocimiento de tu cancion, tu intro esta separado en dos secciones, el punto intermedio es 00:08:273 - (si quieres puedes agregar bookmarks), de esas dos secciones la primera tambien esta separada en otras dos secciones y su punto intermedio es 00:05:073 -, el punto intermedio de la segunda seria en 00:11:473 -, si escuchas detenidamente todos los puntos que he cogido, te daras cuenta de que son sonidos muy fuertes (todos perfectos para usar hyperdashes), lo que tendrias que encontrar aqui es lo siguiente:

Actualmente solo te faltaria agregar un hyperdash en el medio de 00:08:073 (4,5) -. HDash agregado.
2.- Luego de haber detectado los sonidos fuertes de manera satisfactoria, quiero que te enfoques en tus distancias ahora, y para eso vas a tener que detectar un nuevo sonido: 00:02:673 - 00:05:873 - 00:09:073 - 00:12:273 - son sonidos de bateria levemente fuertes verdad? se ve mejor si les pones una distancia de entre 2.00x hasta 2.40x, puedes jugar entre esas distancia segun el tipo de movimiento, por ejemplo si el movimiento es en zig-zag puedes usar una distancia mayor como en 00:02:273 (2,3,4) - , pero si el movimiento es recto puedes usar menos distancia como hicistes en 00:03:473 (6,7,1) -, hay un sonido de vocal mas que te esta confundiendo en varios patrones: 00:03:473 - 00:06:673 - 00:09:873 - 00:13:073 -, porque digo que te estan confundiendo, si comparas el vocal que hay en 00:09:873 - y el vocal de 00:05:073 - son muy parecidos pero como ya sabes uno es vocal solo y el otro es vocal acompañado de un instrumento fuerte, a pesar de eso a los dos les pusiste hdash, las cosas que debes de fixear en este caso serian los siguientes:

No entiendo porque 00:03:273 (5,6) - tiene mas distancia que 00:02:473 (3,4) -, se siente demasiado raro al jugarlo y es porque si comparas "sonidos" en si (no solo vocal, no solo instrumental), el sonido que esta en 00:02:673 - es mas fuerte que 00:03:473 -. Por lo que te recomiendo mover 00:01:873 (1,2,3) - hacia x:488 y 00:03:273 (5) - hacia x:192 Hecho acorde a tus sugerencias.
00:04:073 (7,1,2) - este es otro patron que no cuadra, porque 00:04:273 (1,2) - tiene mas distancia cuando el sonido mas fuerte esta en 00:04:273 -? Yo te recomiendo mover 00:04:073 (7,1) - hacia x:136, 00:04:873 (2) - hacia x:160 y 00:05:073 (3) - hacia x:424 Hecho, se ve bastante bien.
00:05:873 (1,2) - porque tanta distancia si no hay ningun sonido fuerte? no tiene sentido, porque mejor no agregas mas distancia entre 00:05:673 (4,1) -, muy a aparte de agregar distancia tambien seria bueno que le pongas una curva a 00:05:873 (1) - para que arregles el problema del espaciado entre 00:05:873 (1,2) -, y pues no se si me habras hecho caso en los puntos previos, pero seria bueno si mantienes las distancias parecidas a 00:02:473 (3,4,5,6) Distancias agregadas, fueron algo similares pero lucen bastante bien.-
00:06:673 (3,1) - porque apilarlo teniendo tanto espacio hacia el otro lado? ademas de que te estas comiendo una nota en 00:07:273 - El patrón tenía forma de curva solo esas 2 notas hacía que fuese apilado, lo hice de nuevo y quedó mucho mejor.
00:08:873 (6,1) - una vez mas me parece injusto que estos objetos tengan menos distancia que 00:09:073 (1,2) - cuando el sonido de bateria que te mencione en la introduccion esta en 00:09:073 - y por consistencia con tus patrones anteriores deberias de ponerle mas distancia Más distancia en camino.
00:09:473 (2,3) - si ya aplicaste el punto del consejo "1" donde te pedi que agregaras un hyperdash entre 00:08:073 (4,5) -, no crees que ya tienes demasiados hyperdashes en un intro de platter? muy aparte de que no tiene sentido, ya que hay sonidos incluso mas fuertes que este y no tienen un salto tan largo. Bien, solo son 3 HDashes al inicio contando éste serían 4 y podría agregar otro más para que tenga una semejanza con el 4to HDash, el 5 lo agregué 00:12:673 (4,1) - aquí.
00:10:673 (1,2,3,4,1) - de lejos el mejor patron de todo el mapa, te va exigiendo poco a poco a atrapar con la esquina del plato y eso lo hace muy divertido, lo unico que si me gustaria es que agregues mas distancia entre 00:12:073 (2,3) - por esa bateria que te mencione antes en el intro, ya lo probe y si queda genial, noc como esten quedando las nuevas posiciones de las notas pero te aconsejaria que movieras 00:12:273 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - todo un poco mas hacia la izquierda, trata de que la distancia previa de todos esos objetos sea de entre 2.00x hasta 2.40x como ya te habia mencionado en el intro. Bien no tengo problema alguno con ésta sección es muy buena, solo hice algunos ajustes en las distancias.
3.- Como ya te mencione, estoy conforme con tu estructura mas no a la forma que le has dado a tus objetos, obviamente cada mapper tiene su estilo y se preocupa mas por el movimiento en si que por como se vea el patron, para este caso solo te quiero sugerir una cosa:

00:02:473 (3,4,5,6) - por si ya te habras dado cuenta, este movimiento es repetitivo y de muy poca calidad, yo te recomiendo lo siguiente: 00:01:873 (1,2,3,4) - aprieta Ctrl+H y luego hasle una curva perfecta a 00:02:673 (4) -, trata de que sea una curva muy jorobada y que la cabeza y la cola del slider coincidan en el mismo axis (x), luego de eso creo que ya en los puntos anteriores te he mencionado cual es la distancia aproximada entre 00:02:673 (4,5,6) -. Hecho acorde a tus sugerencias.
00:21:073 (1,2,3,4) - 00:21:873 (1,2,3,4) - agregales una curva decente, parece que los hubieras hecho sin ganas, incluso 00:21:273 (2,3,4) - parece un apilado. No tengo tanto problema con esto, pero bueno para evitarlos lo hice de nuevo, quedó mucho mejor.
00:27:473 - ahi hay un sonido muy fuerte que muy bien pudo haber tenido hyperdash, para estos casos muchas veces se puede obviar el sonido que hay en 00:27:373 - y cortar el stream en 00:27:273 - para poder agregar el hyperdash ya que solo hyperdashes en 1/2 estan permitidos en una platter, Ademas por consistencia a los sonidos que estan en 00:05:073 - 00:08:273 - 00:11:473 - ME gustaría agregar un HDash en esa sección, encajaría bastante bien, pero a mí gusto quiero tener un poco más de variedad, ya tengo 5 HDashes en el inicio, agregar otro provocaría un desbalance, prefiero dejar el stream.
00:34:473 (3,4) - demasiado juntos, parecen apilados, separalos al menos un poco mas. Distancia agregada.
Desde 00:40:273 - hasta 00:52:273 - es probablemente la parte mas calmada del mapa, y al ver la estructura junto con los jumps, hay algo que no cuadra, y es que no estas enfatizando los golpes de bateria ni siguiendo los ecos instrumentales, incluso hay inconsistencias que son muy notorias y que deberias echarle un ojo. Solo te hablare de estructura en esta parte ya que es el problema principal, pero a la hora que remapees, quiero que consideres ponerle 1.50x a tus distancias normales como hiciste en 00:41:473 (5,6,7) - y a los golpes fuertes de bateria enfatizarlo con 2.30x como lo hiciste en 00:43:873 (2,3) -

00:40:273 (2) - quiero empezar con este porque al escuchar el instumental me doy cuenta de que el instrumento tiene un eco, ademas de que la transicion deberia ser mas calmada ya que entras a una parte lenta, y es ahi donde me fijo en tu siguiente nota que vendria a ser 00:40:673 (3) -, es realmente necesario agregar una distancia asi donde no hay ni sonido fuerte en 00:40:673 -, ni intensidad en la cancion como para agregar tansiquiera un jump? mi consejo seria el siguiente: que 00:40:273 (2,3) - se vuelvan un solo slider para seguir mejor el instrumental. Fue fixeado con las sugerencias que mencionaste ^.
00:40:873 (4,5) - detras de el consejo anterior, habia una segunda intencion, ya que queria que mejoraras esta parte tambien, es por eso que quiero que testees atentamente tu patron en 00:43:873 (2,3) - y luego testees los objectos que te seleccione al principio. Obviamente el que suena / se ve / se juega mejor es 00:43:873 (2,3) - y de lejos, porque no enfatizaste el sonido de bateria en 00:41:073 -? puede que la estructura sea repetitiva pero tienes que seguir el mismo ritmo para mentener una buena consistencia, el consejo es que elimines 00:40:873 (4) - y pongas una nota, luego puedes retroceder 00:41:473 (5) - hasta 00:41:073 - y sacarle un reverse. Hice algo similar a ésto.
00:42:273 (6,7,1) - aca si debes guardar la misma estructura que 00:43:873 (2,3) - y con eso quedaria hermoso, derrepente puedes hacerle un espejismo, eliminar 00:42:273 (6,7,1) - y luego copiar 00:43:873 (2,3) - y pegarlo en 00:42:273 -, luego de eso aprietale Ctrl+H, para tener un buen patron solido y consistente, te recomiendo que a ese patron que le pusistes Ctrl+H lo lleves todo lo que puedas hasta la izquierda ( mas o menos hasta x:220 ), y el otro hacia la derecha ( mas o menos hasta x:290 ), de tal modo que la distancia de 00:43:873 (8) - con la nota previa sea alrededor de 1.16x. Fue arreglado con las sugerencias previas al "mod".
00:46:473 (2,3) - para mantener consistencia con los sonidos, me sorprende el porque de no agregar hyperdash ahi, cuando tienes un sonido muy fuerte en 00:46:673 -, similar o el mismo a 00:40:273 -, y si te das cuenta ahi si agregaste hyperdash. Me gustaría añadir un HDash, pero siendo una zona "calmada" prefiero dejarlo como Dash.
00:46:673 (3,4,5) - bueno esta historia es la misma que te mencione hace un rato, espero que guardes consistencia aqui tambien, lo dejo en tus manos. Hecho.
00:48:673 (2,3,1) - esto tmb, tratalo de hacer como 00:43:873 (2,3) -, ya depende de ti. Hice algo similar.
00:51:373 (8) - te recomiendo enormemente que elimines esa nota, primero que nada, no hay sonido ahi, segundo que por ponerla estas evitando el hyperdash que deberia ir entre 00:51:273 (7,1) -. Eliminé la nota 8 para hacer el HDash como enfatización para la nueva estrofa.
00:58:873 (2,3) - manten una distancia alrededor o igual a la distancia entre 00:58:073 (4,5) - para tener un mejor balance. Hecho.
00:59:373 (4) - eliminala y ponle un hyperdash entre 00:59:073 (3,1) - para que guardes consistencia con tus hyperdashes previos. Hecho.
01:05:673 (3,1) - porque hyperdash ahi? deberia ser entre 01:05:873 (1,2) -, 01:06:273 - este sonido ya es tipico de hyperdash en tu diff, manten esa consistencia. Estuve probando y me gustaría que los 2 fuesen dashes, siento que enfatizan mejor pese a la consistencia con ese sonido.
01:11:473 (3,4,5,6) - cuando hagas este tipo de patron trata de que tenga sentido, recuerdo haberte elogiado por lo que hiciste en 00:10:673 (1,2,3,4) - pero aqui me decepcionaste. Lo haré de nuevo.
01:18:573 (7) - una vez mas te quiero mencionar algo acerca de los streams en platter, no solo en ctb si no en las diffs hard de std tambien, a veces hay que recortar el stream para poder agregar un salto y seguir al golpe mas fuerte, es muy raro que tengas un golpe de platillo sin enfatizar, eso se nota a simple test, por eso elimina esta nota y agregale un hyper entre 01:18:473 (6,1) -. HDash agregado.
01:29:873 (4) - elimina esa nota ya que no hay sonido, y recuerda lo que te dije en el principio del mod acerca del spin. Hecho.
01:32:873 (5,6,1) - es inicio de kiai, la parte con mayor intencidad y no vas a agregarle hyper dash? ya sabes lo que tienes que hacer con 01:32:973 (6) -Hecho~
El kiai hasta cierto punto me gusta pero hay otra cosa que me causa dudas, si comparas la densidad de notas de la rain de JBHyperion con tu platter, te daras cuenta de que la brecha es inmensa, ya que mientras el usa puro stream tu solo usas sliders en 1/2, mi consejo seria aumentar la cantidad de objetos, por ejemplo que te parece cambiar 01:34:673 (1) - 01:36:273 (5) - a streams, guarda la diff, crea otra nueva con los mismos objetos y intenta apretarle Ctrl+Shift+F a los slider que te dije, suenan bien y tendras un mejor balance creeme, pero ahi no acabaria, 01:37:873 (3,4,5) - eso tmb deberia ser stream, 01:41:073 (3) - deberia ser stream y agregar una nota en 01:41:373 - y por ultimo 01:42:673 (1) - tmb deberia ser stream, lo dejo a tu criterio, como te aconsejo, crea otra dificultad con las mismas notas y aplicalo, si te gusta y al compararlo con la rain tiene un mejor balance pues te lo queda, pero si no te gusta pues simplemente borras la diff nueva y te quedas con tu patron actual.

01:47:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - porque tan diferente si escucho lo mismo que 01:45:873 (1) -, 01:47:073 (1) - borralo y agrega una nota en 01:47:073 -, luego ya sabes que seria mejor si usas 01:45:873 (1) - para tener una mejor consistencia. No entendí muy bien ésta parte pero espero haberla hecho al pie de la letra.
Espero que se me entienda, si te hice el mod tan largo fue porque quise aprovechar que los dos hablamos el mismo idioma y se me entienda mejor, ademas no me gustaria que vuelvas a cometer los mismos errores en otros mapas, para mi hubiera sido facil decirte, acorta la distancia aqui, aca usa hyperdash, aca no, etc, pero no sabrias el porque, solo trato de ayudar y espero no me lo tomes a mal, Mucha suerte. Descuida, el mod fue de mucha ayuda, gracias.

Hope to help you bro, best of lucks~~
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Kurokami

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Kurokami 2016-10-23T19:44:51+00:00

Hey. I was asked to mod Salad and Platter but well, I can't check half mapsets.

[Cup]

00:29:473 (1,2) - This pattern is a little bit confusing and could be hard for starters with almost no control over the catcher. That movement on 2 is the questionable part since you need to go right to catch it then left to get the end of it as well. Yea there is the thing you can just stand and catch both but we all know newbies can't do that yet. So please make this pattern simpler by rotating 2's tail to right or making it the same as 00:31:073 (1,2) - which works better because 2's head in this case is at the same direction as the tail of 1.
Answering to Sh1n1's problem with 00:27:473 - to 00:40:273 and 01:33:073 - to 01:58:673. They are not exactly the same. If you listen carefully there are extra beats in the first which are not present during the kiai. This means they can't be consistent at all by following the music. At the same time the kiai has the same vocal as 00:01:873 - 00:27:473 - and it could have been better choice to make it consistent with that instead. Yet, that did not happened as well.
00:53:073 - 01:18:673 - I have two problem with this part. First is the note density which basically stole the highlight from the kiai. This part feels much more radiant than the kiai which obviously should be wise-versa. The other thing is, that you are so aggressively following the vocals (when there is any) but here you just put notes on every white tick instead of the vocals then immediately after at the small wub part you took them away again. Why can't you just stick to one note density or to one instrument?

Nice difficulty otherwise.

[Salad]

Rhythm and timeline

00:07:473 (1,2,3,4) - This part of the pattern makes me wonder if it could have been different than the one on Platter (timeline wise). And I think making the slider slightly longer (by 1/2) could have been a better option so it ends on a strong beat which is more followable by starters. Its your choice but I recommend that.
00:32:073 (3) - Starting this slider on the weakest beat of all around is the worst choice. I strongly recommend to swap 2-3 on the timeline.
00:37:073 (1,2) - Since you can have jumps already it could be nice to separate these sliders apart and add small ones. I'm not against your idea but it might be better that way as the beats are strong enough.
00:45:873 (1,2,3) - If you are going for blue ticks to cover the drums at least do it well. There are two more drums on blue and one more on red to use.
00:55:673 (6) - You are following the drums for the whole section here but ignoring the two with the first part of this repeat slider? It actually makes no sense to me because you used this rhythm many times before.
01:11:873 (1) - Okay, it would be nice if you end up breaking your 1/1 rhythm usage with some 1/2 at this point. This slider covers 3 drums which you actually happened to follow up until now so it could make more sense to do that here as well.
01:18:673 (5) - I would place a new combo here because you just happened to follow the changes in the vocal and instrument with it and this note is the start of the new vocal section.
01:33:073 (7) - While I do not like to point out new combo issues and make suggestions to them this bugs me a lot as well. The kiai starts right here same with the vocal yet you did not apply NC at all. Instead you went and added one at 01:33:873 (1) - which is exactly the opposite what you did at 00:01:873 (1,2,3) - .
01:38:673 (1,2,3,4) - Okay, this is exactly the 4th time you used the same timeline in a row. While it does make sense you had so much better creativity at the beginning of this song I wonder where it went. 00:29:473 (1,2,1,2,3) - These are just examples, but for that reason, they are good. Please, make some diversity.
01:46:473 (1) - You ignored that strong drum 2 times before yet you followed it with this slider's head. This makes it to sound really strange because you basically ditched the vocal for the sake of a mere drum sound.
01:48:073 (1) - And again.
01:49:673 (4) - Same here again.
01:51:073 (1) - I find this annoying to here because of those clear 1/4 drums yet simple 1/2 slider is used while there is a stream later at 01:51:873 (3,4,5,6) - . It would be nice if you happened to not ignore something if later you want to follow the same sounds. I understand that you wanted to keep it easy but ignoring strong and noticeable instruments is not the right way to do.

Gameplay

00:07:473 (1,2,3,4,5) - I know I mentioned this above already so if you happened to follow that ignore this. I need to point this out in this section as well because this pattern happens to require a very precise left-right moving in a very short amount of time. While this is a more advanced level than Cup some player might just not have the right control to get a full combo especially because to catch the last note you need to time the movement very well without any unneeded space. Yes, the option to jump is there but they are just learning how to control that as well so overjump can occur easily which makes it hard to jump backwards. Anyway, my suggestion is to make the 2-3-4 part a little bit more vertical in order to make the movement less edgy.
00:10:673 (3,1) - There is a finisher but no jump? I would move 1 a little bit more to right to at least achieve bigger movement.
00:28:273 (2,3,4) - I don't get that space between 2-3. There is no need to add a jump here especially because you don't have any at 00:30:273 (2) - either. On the other hand this pattern is perfectly catchable by just moving to right so it might be better to make it easier to recognize this by moving 3 a bit back to left somewhere in the middle of the two other note.
00:34:673 (6,7,8) - There you go again. I can only say the same thing as well.
00:45:673 (2,1) - Move these a little bit back to right. Currently its hard to get them without pressing the jump button but there is no real indication to do that either.
00:55:673 (6) - Since this is still an easier level I suggest you to rotate this slider so there won't be any sudden backwards movement after that jump.
00:59:073 (8,1) - Too bad there is no jump between these two again despite of the strong sound. Although if you add on you need to change the part right before this.
01:06:673 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Ugh. This part is really boring to play. All I see is slider, slider and more slider. Can you add some diversity by changing some to a circle instead? Adding some jump, higher or lower movement helps a lot as well.
01:48:073 (1,2,3) - I do mentioned a lot for this part above already but I need to add more. In this short section there are 3 direction change with 2 of them being in a close section. This should not happen on an early level. If you happened to solve the rhythm problem mentioned above this issue should be solved already but if not then I suggest you to change the repeat slider into a note+slider and place the slider vertically instead of horizontally.
01:50:273 (2) - Move this a bit back to right so it takes less movement to catch it. Currently its too edgy to handle it by a player with less experience.
01:51:673 (2,3,4,5,6) - No please. Do not add backwards movement to a stream right after a jump button press. New players tends to overjump a lot which makes them extremely hard to get the rest of the stream.

I happened to write a lot as well. :c

[Platter]

00:02:273 (3) - I do not think this should be mapped as a circle. The sound here is really quiet. I highly suggest you to make 2 as a slider which last until this tick. Same as you did at 00:03:473 (3) - .
00:36:273 (3) - Hm, what is this sudden 1/1 slider? The rhythm is still the same 1/2 as before. Can you shorten this and add a circle to where this slider's tail currently is? Chaining this with the next suggestion, the movement from 2 and 3 to 4 is really flowbreaking. There is a jump between 2-3 as well. Keep in mind that this is the introduction of Hypers so whenever you place one the patterns before and the following ones must be readable and handable as easily as it possible. The optimal placement for 4 could have been on the left side instead. Although if you change your timeline as I suggested you might be able to fix this issue easily as well.
00:39:673 (5,6,1) - Although I not precisely like this pattern due to the required jump-backwards movement-Hyper but it just might be me. It would be nice to make the required left movement on 6 smaller.
00:59:473 (1) - Can you at least curve this slider into the way of the Hyper so there won't be required sudden stop (which obviously impossible for those who just met the Hypers for the first time).
01:05:873 (1) - Is that Clap necessary on the head of this slider? It created a weird sound which is really interrupting.
01:29:873 - I would be nice to have an extra note here. It created better feeling to end the stream that way.
01:56:673 (4,1,2,3,4) - I don't like that zigzag after the Hyper. While I do understand that the rhythm might requires something like that and it fits nicely you need to keep in mind that this level is just an introduction of Hypers. Players mostly are not yet able to stop their movement at the right time. Plus those drums are all sounds the same so there shouldn't be any reason to use different distance between them at all.

Apart form these this is a really nice Platter. You have me. After applying this mod, please see what you can do about the kiai as we spoke in pm.

[Rain]

I'm not going to be specific since in the first half you mostly used patterns which requires the same movement all over. This makes your kiai and streams a little bit repetitive to a level where it becomes annoying. 01:34:673 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:35:073 (5,6,7) - , 01:33:473 (5,6) - , 01:37:473 (5,6) - , etc. It would be nice to see some vertical pattern as well, maybe where there is no jump at all? Constantly moving left-right can cause the stream (and the whole kiai) to feel like its harder than it actually is. It would be nice if you could change it on your own to suit your taste but you know where I can be find so feel free to ask me if any question comes up.
[]

Apart from this small spread issue I think its a nice set. Lets see if that could have been fixed.

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-23T19:55:06+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
Hey. I was asked to mod Salad and Platter but well, I can't check half mapsets. - Hehehe, thank you

[Cup]
00:29:473 (1,2) - This pattern is a little bit confusing and could be hard for starters with almost no control over the catcher. That movement on 2 is the questionable part since you need to go right to catch it then left to get the end of it as well. Yea there is the thing you can just stand and catch both but we all know newbies can't do that yet. So please make this pattern simpler by rotating 2's tail to right or making it the same as 00:31:073 (1,2) - which works better because 2's head in this case is at the same direction as the tail of 1. - Done, followed as suggested.
Answering to Sh1n1's problem with 00:27:473 - to 00:40:273 and 01:33:073 - to 01:58:673. They are not exactly the same. If you listen carefully there are extra beats in the first which are not present during the kiai. This means they can't be consistent at all by following the music. At the same time the kiai has the same vocal as 00:01:873 - 00:27:473 - and it could have been better choice to make it consistent with that instead. Yet, that did not happened as well. - I will ask Kurokami back regarding this.
00:53:073 - 01:18:673 - I have two problem with this part. First is the note density which basically stole the highlight from the kiai. This part feels much more radiant than the kiai which obviously should be wise-versa. The other thing is, that you are so aggressively following the vocals (when there is any) but here you just put notes on every white tick instead of the vocals then immediately after at the small wub part you took them away again. Why can't you just stick to one note density or to one instrument? - I will ask Kurokami back regarding this.
Nice difficulty otherwise. - Thanks

[Salad]

Rhythm and timeline
00:07:473 (1,2,3,4) - This part of the pattern makes me wonder if it could have been different than the one on Platter (timeline wise). And I think making the slider slightly longer (by 1/2) could have been a better option so it ends on a strong beat which is more followable by starters. Its your choice but I recommend that. - Done
00:32:073 (3) - Starting this slider on the weakest beat of all around is the worst choice. I strongly recommend to swap 2-3 on the timeline. - Done
00:37:073 (1,2) - Since you can have jumps already it could be nice to separate these sliders apart and add small ones. I'm not against your idea but it might be better that way as the beats are strong enough. - Done
00:45:873 (1,2,3) - If you are going for blue ticks to cover the drums at least do it well. There are two more drums on blue and one more on red to use. - Done
00:55:673 (6) - You are following the drums for the whole section here but ignoring the two with the first part of this repeat slider? It actually makes no sense to me because you used this rhythm many times before. - Done
01:11:873 (1) - Okay, it would be nice if you end up breaking your 1/1 rhythm usage with some 1/2 at this point. This slider covers 3 drums which you actually happened to follow up until now so it could make more sense to do that here as well. - Done
01:18:673 (5) - I would place a new combo here because you just happened to follow the changes in the vocal and instrument with it and this note is the start of the new vocal section. - Done
01:33:073 (7) - While I do not like to point out new combo issues and make suggestions to them this bugs me a lot as well. The kiai starts right here same with the vocal yet you did not apply NC at all. Instead you went and added one at 01:33:873 (1) - which is exactly the opposite what you did at 00:01:873 (1,2,3) - . - Done
01:38:673 (1,2,3,4) - Okay, this is exactly the 4th time you used the same timeline in a row. While it does make sense you had so much better creativity at the beginning of this song I wonder where it went. 00:29:473 (1,2,1,2,3) - These are just examples, but for that reason, they are good. Please, make some diversity. - Done
01:46:473 (1) - You ignored that strong drum 2 times before yet you followed it with this slider's head. This makes it to sound really strange because you basically ditched the vocal for the sake of a mere drum sound. - Done
01:48:073 (1) - And again. - Done
01:49:673 (4) - Same here again. - Done
01:51:073 (1) - I find this annoying to here because of those clear 1/4 drums yet simple 1/2 slider is used while there is a stream later at 01:51:873 (3,4,5,6) - . It would be nice if you happened to not ignore something if later you want to follow the same sounds. I understand that you wanted to keep it easy but ignoring strong and noticeable instruments is not the right way to do. - Done
Gameplay
00:07:473 (1,2,3,4,5) - I know I mentioned this above already so if you happened to follow that ignore this. I need to point this out in this section as well because this pattern happens to require a very precise left-right moving in a very short amount of time. While this is a more advanced level than Cup some player might just not have the right control to get a full combo especially because to catch the last note you need to time the movement very well without any unneeded space. Yes, the option to jump is there but they are just learning how to control that as well so overjump can occur easily which makes it hard to jump backwards. Anyway, my suggestion is to make the 2-3-4 part a little bit more vertical in order to make the movement less edgy. - Followed above.
00:10:673 (3,1) - There is a finisher but no jump? I would move 1 a little bit more to right to at least achieve bigger movement. - Done
00:28:273 (2,3,4) - I don't get that space between 2-3. There is no need to add a jump here especially because you don't have any at 00:30:273 (2) - either. On the other hand this pattern is perfectly catchable by just moving to right so it might be better to make it easier to recognize this by moving 3 a bit back to left somewhere in the middle of the two other note. - Done
00:34:673 (6,7,8) - There you go again. I can only say the same thing as well. - Done
00:45:673 (2,1) - Move these a little bit back to right. Currently its hard to get them without pressing the jump button but there is no real indication to do that either. - I changed into new pattern.
00:55:673 (6) - Since this is still an easier level I suggest you to rotate this slider so there won't be any sudden backwards movement after that jump. - I changed into new pattern.
00:59:073 (8,1) - Too bad there is no jump between these two again despite of the strong sound. Although if you add on you need to change the part right before this. - Add more distance.
01:06:673 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Ugh. This part is really boring to play. All I see is slider, slider and more slider. Can you add some diversity by changing some to a circle instead? Adding some jump, higher or lower movement helps a lot as well. - I will keep this, more sliders doesn't mean its boring.
01:48:073 (1,2,3) - I do mentioned a lot for this part above already but I need to add more. In this short section there are 3 direction change with 2 of them being in a close section. This should not happen on an early level. If you happened to solve the rhythm problem mentioned above this issue should be solved already but if not then I suggest you to change the repeat slider into a note+slider and place the slider vertically instead of horizontally. - I changed into new pattern.
01:50:273 (2) - Move this a bit back to right so it takes less movement to catch it. Currently its too edgy to handle it by a player with less experience. - I changed into new pattern.
01:51:673 (2,3,4,5,6) - No please. Do not add backwards movement to a stream right after a jump button press. New players tends to overjump a lot which makes them extremely hard to get the rest of the stream. - I changed into new pattern.
I happened to write a lot as well. :c - :c

Apart from this small spread issue I think its a nice set. Lets see if that could have been fixed. - Okay, thanks

Thanks for the mod.

Last edited by SYAHME 2016-10-25T16:15:21+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Kurokami

osu! Alumni

4,024 posts

Joined February 2010

Kurokami 2016-10-23T21:14:14+00:00

SYAHME wrote:
Kurokami wrote:
Hey. I was asked to mod Salad and Platter but well, I can't check half mapsets. - Hehehe, thank you

[Cup]
Answering to Sh1n1's problem with 00:27:473 - to 00:40:273 and 01:33:073 - to 01:58:673. They are not exactly the same. If you listen carefully there are extra beats in the first which are not present during the kiai. This means they can't be consistent at all by following the music. At the same time the kiai has the same vocal as 00:01:873 - 00:27:473 - and it could have been better choice to make it consistent with that instead. Yet, that did not happened as well. - I will ask Kurokami back regarding this. This means that your timeline should be more or less the same for the kiai than the part of 00:01:873 - 00:27:473 - .
00:53:073 - 01:18:673 - I have two problem with this part. First is the note density which basically stole the highlight from the kiai. This part feels much more radiant than the kiai which obviously should be wise-versa. The other thing is, that you are so aggressively following the vocals (when there is any) but here you just put notes on every white tick instead of the vocals then immediately after at the small wub part you took them away again. Why can't you just stick to one note density or to one instrument? - I will ask Kurokami back regarding this. This means that your note density is too high compared with the kiai and you forsake the vocal (which you followed up until now) for some mere 1/1 beats. You should keep following the vocal.
Nice difficulty otherwise. - Thanks

I happened to write a lot as well. :c

Apart from this small spread issue I think its a nice set. Lets see if that could have been fixed.
Thanks for the mod.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-10-23T22:23:06+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
[Rain]

I'm not going to be specific since in the first half you mostly used patterns which requires the same movement all over. This makes your kiai and streams a little bit repetitive to a level where it becomes annoying. 01:34:673 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:35:073 (5,6,7) - , 01:33:473 (5,6) - , 01:37:473 (5,6) - , etc. It would be nice to see some vertical pattern as well, maybe where there is no jump at all? Constantly moving left-right can cause the stream (and the whole kiai) to feel like its harder than it actually is. It would be nice if you could change it on your own to suit your taste but you know where I can be find so feel free to ask me if any question comes up.
[]

I don't feel the non-kiai parts are especially repetitive considering the rhythms available to me, but I guess that's a matter of opinion. The only obvious place where I used overly repetitive patterns imo was 00:14:673 - 00:21:073 - which plays better as it serves to emphasize the buildup effect in this section. Semi-stream sections such as 00:27:473 - 00:37:073 - and the calm vocal verse sections use varying direction to negate the repetitive rhythms as best I could, but I digress.

Regarding the kiai, again the interpretation of what constitutes an annoying pattern is extremely subjective, I find it really fun to play, and my mapping focuses on consistency above (almost) all else. If I place a jump for a certain sound, I try to ensure similar spacings to all similar sounds, so arbitrarily removing jumps in favour of vertical patterns makes no sense to me. I feel patterns like 01:37:073 (1,2,3,4) - 01:38:673 (1,2,3,4) - 01:39:473 (1,2,3,4) - etc. offer enough of a "vertical" effect to provide a break whilst still maintaining good flow. To maintain that consistency as best as possible, I tried to some reduce normal dashes (on kick drum sounds especially) to regular spacing, removing a number of 1/4 tap dashes but keeping a similar number of hdashes, and some overly strong hypers were weakened a little.

Other stuff I changed is summarized below:

00:27:473 - 00:37:073 - Many normal dashes removed from this stream section to create better contrast with the later kiai, and many hdashes have been weakened to provide smoother movements. Flow and non-dash spacing has been largely kept the same
00:47:873 (4,1) - Reduced this slightly, was a bit mean for a normal dash in a clam section
00:56:673 (2,3) - Removed dash here, unfitting
01:00:073 (2) - Made horizontal to improve flow, tail was easy to miss
01:05:273 (4,5,6) - Reduced this slightly to make the following hyper more comfortable to play
01:10:473 (4,1) - Reduced to give 01:11:073 (2) - more emphasis
01:11:873 (5,6) - Reduced this to avoid an awkward difficulty spike
01:29:073 (1,2,3,4) - Reduced all of these slightly so they are more manageable after the hyper
01:54:673 (1,2) - Have been inverted to provide some variety in this pattern via the removal of a direction change. 01:55:473 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - have been flipped to accomodate

Apart from this small spread issue I think its a nice set. Lets see if that could have been fixed.

I'm not as happy with this as to me it feels a little less interesting, but such sacrifices have to be made for the good of the spread I suppose. Thanks for the suggestions.

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SYAHME

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SYAHME 2016-10-24T01:39:48+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
[Cup]
Answering to Sh1n1's problem with 00:27:473 - to 00:40:273 and 01:33:073 - to 01:58:673. They are not exactly the same. If you listen carefully there are extra beats in the first which are not present during the kiai. This means they can't be consistent at all by following the music. At the same time the kiai has the same vocal as 00:01:873 - 00:27:473 - and it could have been better choice to make it consistent with that instead. Yet, that did not happened as well. - I will ask Kurokami back regarding this. This means that your timeline should be more or less the same for the kiai than the part of 00:01:873 - 00:27:473 - .
00:53:073 - 01:18:673 - I have two problem with this part. First is the note density which basically stole the highlight from the kiai. This part feels much more radiant than the kiai which obviously should be wise-versa. The other thing is, that you are so aggressively following the vocals (when there is any) but here you just put notes on every white tick instead of the vocals then immediately after at the small wub part you took them away again. Why can't you just stick to one note density or to one instrument? - I will ask Kurokami back regarding this. This means that your note density is too high compared with the kiai and you forsake the vocal (which you followed up until now) for some mere 1/1 beats. You should keep following the vocal.
Nice difficulty otherwise. - Thanks

Thanks for the explanation, I will do my best to fix this.

SYAHME

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SYAHME 2016-10-24T01:44:47+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:

Kurokami wrote:
[Rain]

I'm not going to be specific since in the first half you mostly used patterns which requires the same movement all over. This makes your kiai and streams a little bit repetitive to a level where it becomes annoying. 01:34:673 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:35:073 (5,6,7) - , 01:33:473 (5,6) - , 01:37:473 (5,6) - , etc. It would be nice to see some vertical pattern as well, maybe where there is no jump at all? Constantly moving left-right can cause the stream (and the whole kiai) to feel like its harder than it actually is. It would be nice if you could change it on your own to suit your taste but you know where I can be find so feel free to ask me if any question comes up.
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I don't feel the non-kiai parts are especially repetitive considering the rhythms available to me, but I guess that's a matter of opinion. The only obvious place where I used overly repetitive patterns imo was 00:14:673 - 00:21:073 - which plays better as it serves to emphasize the buildup effect in this section. Semi-stream sections such as 00:27:473 - 00:37:073 - and the calm vocal verse sections use varying direction to negate the repetitive rhythms as best I could, but I digress.

Regarding the kiai, again the interpretation of what constitutes an annoying pattern is extremely subjective, I find it really fun to play, and my mapping focuses on consistency above (almost) all else. If I place a jump for a certain sound, I try to ensure similar spacings to all similar sounds, so arbitrarily removing jumps in favour of vertical patterns makes no sense to me. I feel patterns like 01:37:073 (1,2,3,4) - 01:38:673 (1,2,3,4) - 01:39:473 (1,2,3,4) - etc. offer enough of a "vertical" effect to provide a break whilst still maintaining good flow. To maintain that consistency as best as possible, I tried to some reduce normal dashes (on kick drum sounds especially) to regular spacing, removing a number of 1/4 tap dashes but keeping a similar number of hdashes, and some overly strong hypers were weakened a little.

Other stuff I changed is summarized below:

00:27:473 - 00:37:073 - Many normal dashes removed from this stream section to create better contrast with the later kiai, and many hdashes have been weakened to provide smoother movements. Flow and non-dash spacing has been largely kept the same
00:47:873 (4,1) - Reduced this slightly, was a bit mean for a normal dash in a clam section
00:56:673 (2,3) - Removed dash here, unfitting
01:00:073 (2) - Made horizontal to improve flow, tail was easy to miss
01:05:273 (4,5,6) - Reduced this slightly to make the following hyper more comfortable to play
01:10:473 (4,1) - Reduced to give 01:11:073 (2) - more emphasis
01:11:873 (5,6) - Reduced this to avoid an awkward difficulty spike
01:29:073 (1,2,3,4) - Reduced all of these slightly so they are more manageable after the hyper
01:54:673 (1,2) - Have been inverted to provide some variety in this pattern via the removal of a direction change. 01:55:473 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - have been flipped to accomodate

Apart from this small spread issue I think its a nice set. Lets see if that could have been fixed.

I'm not as happy with this as to me it feels a little less interesting, but such sacrifices have to be made for the good of the spread I suppose. Thanks for the suggestions.

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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JBHyperion 2016-10-24T08:59:19+00:00

Discussed some stuff with Kurokami in Discord, did some more self-modding to improve stream transitions and fixed a couple more excessive jumps

rain

osu file format v14

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Title:BRAVE OUT
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Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:HYPERION'S REDEMPTION
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
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SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-24T09:09:59+00:00

Updated, waiting for Jusenkyo responds and myself in progress fixing Cup and Salad.
[Cup]

00:53:473 - until 01:29:473 - here, I will re-map to follow the vocal. - Done
01:33:073 - until 01:48:273 - here, in this kiai part, I will add more notes. - Done

[Salad]

Done

Last edited by SYAHME 2016-10-25T16:17:32+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-10-24T23:02:51+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
Hey. I was asked to mod Salad and Platter but well, I can't check half mapsets.

[Platter]

00:02:273 (3) - I do not think this should be mapped as a circle. The sound here is really quiet. I highly suggest you to make 2 as a slider which last until this tick. Same as you did at 00:03:473 (3) - . I know it would look better, but I would have a little more variety in terms of patterns, besides the sound is in (3) and (4) causes the movement that has fun, so keep this as is.
00:36:273 (3) - Hm, what is this sudden 1/1 slider? The rhythm is still the same 1/2 as before. Can you shorten this and add a circle to where this slider's tail currently is? Chaining this with the next suggestion, the movement from 2 and 3 to 4 is really flowbreaking. There is a jump between 2-3 as well. Keep in mind that this is the introduction of Hypers so whenever you place one the patterns before and the following ones must be readable and handable as easily as it possible. The optimal placement for 4 could have been on the left side instead. Although if you change your timeline as I suggested you might be able to fix this issue easily as well. You're right, that slider breaks the rhythm patterns 1/2, so they were changed.
00:39:673 (5,6,1) - Although I not precisely like this pattern due to the required jump-backwards movement-Hyper but it just might be me. It would be nice to make the required left movement on 6 smaller. True, creates an unnecessary jump, so I moved (6) a little to the left to make the movement more fluid, without losing the H-Dash is in the.
00:59:473 (1) - Can you at least curve this slider into the way of the Hyper so there won't be required sudden stop (which obviously impossible for those who just met the Hypers for the first time). Moved adding a more movement and more fluid.
01:05:873 (1) - Is that Clap necessary on the head of this slider? It created a weird sound which is really interrupting. Clap removed.
01:29:873 - I would be nice to have an extra note here. It created better feeling to end the stream that way. This note was deleted at the request of Sh1n1, but I'm doubted of add.
01:56:673 (4,1,2,3,4) - I don't like that zigzag after the Hyper. While I do understand that the rhythm might requires something like that and it fits nicely you need to keep in mind that this level is just an introduction of Hypers. Players mostly are not yet able to stop their movement at the right time. Plus those drums are all sounds the same so there shouldn't be any reason to use different distance between them at all. Well create another pattern, and I hope to be better than the old.

Apart form these this is a really nice Platter. You have me. After applying this mod, please see what you can do about the kiai as we spoke in pm. I will try to improvise a bit.

Thanks for the mod.

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Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
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SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-24T23:12:46+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

Kurokami wrote:
Hey. I was asked to mod Salad and Platter but well, I can't check half mapsets.

[Platter]

00:02:273 (3) - I do not think this should be mapped as a circle. The sound here is really quiet. I highly suggest you to make 2 as a slider which last until this tick. Same as you did at 00:03:473 (3) - . I know it would look better, but I would have a little more variety in terms of patterns, besides the sound is in (3) and (4) causes the movement that has fun, so keep this as is.
00:36:273 (3) - Hm, what is this sudden 1/1 slider? The rhythm is still the same 1/2 as before. Can you shorten this and add a circle to where this slider's tail currently is? Chaining this with the next suggestion, the movement from 2 and 3 to 4 is really flowbreaking. There is a jump between 2-3 as well. Keep in mind that this is the introduction of Hypers so whenever you place one the patterns before and the following ones must be readable and handable as easily as it possible. The optimal placement for 4 could have been on the left side instead. Although if you change your timeline as I suggested you might be able to fix this issue easily as well. You're right, that slider breaks the rhythm patterns 1/2, so they were changed.
00:39:673 (5,6,1) - Although I not precisely like this pattern due to the required jump-backwards movement-Hyper but it just might be me. It would be nice to make the required left movement on 6 smaller. True, creates an unnecessary jump, so I moved (6) a little to the left to make the movement more fluid, without losing the H-Dash is in the.
00:59:473 (1) - Can you at least curve this slider into the way of the Hyper so there won't be required sudden stop (which obviously impossible for those who just met the Hypers for the first time). Moved adding a more movement and more fluid.
01:05:873 (1) - Is that Clap necessary on the head of this slider? It created a weird sound which is really interrupting. Clap removed.
01:29:873 - I would be nice to have an extra note here. It created better feeling to end the stream that way. This note was deleted at the request of Sh1n1, but I'm doubted of add.
01:56:673 (4,1,2,3,4) - I don't like that zigzag after the Hyper. While I do understand that the rhythm might requires something like that and it fits nicely you need to keep in mind that this level is just an introduction of Hypers. Players mostly are not yet able to stop their movement at the right time. Plus those drums are all sounds the same so there shouldn't be any reason to use different distance between them at all. Well create another pattern, and I hope to be better than the old.

Apart form these this is a really nice Platter. You have me. After applying this mod, please see what you can do about the kiai as we spoke in pm. I will try to improvise a bit.

Thanks for the mod.

Update

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 91473
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
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[Metadata]
Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Jusenkyo JBHyperion
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SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-25T16:18:11+00:00

All updated

Kurokami

osu! Alumni

4,024 posts

Joined February 2010

Kurokami 2016-10-25T16:37:58+00:00

I'm still waiting for Jusenkyo's changes before doing anything. I saw JBH changed the flow of the kiai which is a good progress but I still think that change would be nice for the Platter as well.

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,049 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2016-10-26T01:40:09+00:00

Mod requested in my queue. get sniped kurokami

[Cup]

00:22:673 (1) Personally I think a repeat 1/1 like this is a bit boring to play. I'd prefer spliting into two 1/1 sliders, maybe placing it like this:
SPOILER
00:29:073 (3,1) - This distance is significantly larger than any of the other 1/1 distances in this section, so I'd reduce it a bit.
00:30:473 (2) - I find it weird that you mapped the 1/2 sound here, but didn't for any other of the patterns of this section, so I'd take it out for consistency.
00:53:473 (4) - This sounds really odd considering you're omitting a pretty strong vocal at 00:53:673 - but following the rest with 00:54:073 (1) -, so I'd change this to a 1/2 slider.
00:54:073 (1) - Again, there's something about the repeat 1/1 that I don't like. Try replacing it by two 1/1 sliders.
00:59:873 (2,1) - Same stuff here. You're omitting a strong vocal with the first slider, and the 1/1 repeat slider has something that triggers me, so the previous suggestions also apply here.
01:23:473 (2,3) - You're totally missing emphasis on the downbeat at 01:24:273 - the way these sliders are mapped. I'd put the 3/2 slider first and then a 2/1 slider, as to have some small distance to 01:24:273 - . Basically, this timeline:

[Salad]

00:06:673 (4,1) - This distance is rather ambiguous, and it doesn't make me feel like "I need to dash for this" yet is hardly walkable. I'd reduce the distance a bit.
00:07:873 (2,3,4,5) - Having a 1/4 pattern before a dash feels like a bit too much for a Salad to me. I'd turn the 1/4 triplet into a 1/2 slider to reduce the strain a bit.
00:20:273 (1,2) - Hardly walkable and too random, considering all the previous patterns are walkable. I'd reduce the distance here.
00:24:073 (4,1) - Another ambiguous distance. I'd either increase it by 1 grid space to make it a little more clearer or reduce it.
00:24:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - Tricky spacings here, hard to decide whether to walk or to dash. I'd reduce them a bit.
00:32:673 (4,1,2,3,4) - This pattern feels a bit hard for a Salad, because you have to go left a barely walkable distance and then go back in a 1/4 triplet, ending in another direction change. I think you can Ctrl+G 00:33:073 (1,2,3) - and move 00:33:473 (4) - to x:32. Not only it will make the flow easier, but it will create a nice dash between 00:33:473 (4,5) - to emphasize the finish at 00:33:873 - .
00:45:073 (3,1,2,3,1,2) - This is too hard for a Salad. I think you should Ctrl+G 00:45:373 (1) - and also move 00:46:173 (1,2) - a bit closer to the previous objects.
00:48:273 (1) - I'd move this a bit to the right. Since there's a 2/1 spacing between 00:46:673 (3,1) - , players might be too slow to notice the second slider, which might lead to an awkward and unnecessary dash.
00:50:673 (1,2,3,4,5) - You have two close and relatively large dashes here, so I'd move the triplet a bit to the left to reduce the difficulty a bit.
00:55:073 (2,3,4,5,1) - Again, you have too much direction changes with a 1/4 pattern in between. Again, you could try Ctrl+G on 00:55:673 (3,4,5) - and then move 00:56:073 (1) - to the left of that triplet.
00:58:673 (3,4,5,6) - Same stuff here. You can Ctrl+G the triplet and even move it a bit more to the left, and then move 00:59:073 (6) - to the left of the triplet. It will also create a nice dash to 00:59:473 (1) - .
01:08:273 (2) - Mapping it as a repeat, you missed the chance to emphasize the downbeat at 01:09:073 - with its own object, and you also missed the chance to add a 1/2 repeat like you did on 01:05:873 (1) - . So I suggest you take out the repeat and add a repeat slider, basically this timeline:
01:24:673 (3,4,5,1) - The triplet adds a bit of strain to the pattern, so I'd replace it with a 1/2 slider to make the whole thing easier.
01:32:473 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - The dash between the circle and the 5-plet doesn't fit IMO, and also mapping the 1/4s made you lose a good chance to add a dash to 01:33:073 (1) -. So I'd put 01:32:673 (3) - closer to (2), delete 01:32:773 (4,6) - and create a dash between 01:32:873 (5,1) - to emphasize the beginning of the Kiai.
01:33:873 (3,4) - I think you could add a nice dash between these objects if you made the slider a bit more horizontal, to emphasize the downbeat at 01:34:673 - . This also applies for similar patterns.
01:45:073 (1,2,3) - Instead of having two ambiguous and rather similar distances, you could move 01:45:473 (2) - to the left a bit (maybe x:208?) making the first one easily walkable and requiring a dash for the 2nd, which serves to emphasize the downbeat at 01:45:873 - . Also applies for similar patterns.

[Platter]

00:01:073 (1,2) - Esta distancia es bastante inesperada. Sugiero que muevas (2) un poquito a la derecha (alrededor de x:64 parece bien).
00:02:673 (1,2,3) - Es raro que tengas una distancia más grande hacia esta nota que desde esta, considerando que el sonido que viene después es más fuerte. Yo sugiero que muevas (2) a x:232 o algo por ahí.
00:05:873 (1,2,3) - Acá pasa lo mismo.
00:14:473 (6,1) - Acá quedaría bastante bien un HDash.
00:27:273 (4,5,1) - Creo que ya te había dicho en Fjarlaegur que a veces menos es más. Quizando (5) podrías poner un HDash de 1/2 que enfatiza bastante bien el cambio de sección, en vez de limitar la distancia porque en una Platter no se pueden usar HDashes de 1/4.
00:28:673 (5,6,1) - Acá también pasa un poco lo de que las distancias son muy similares cuando la segunda debería ser más larga.
00:37:473 (2,3) - Acá uno esperaría una distancia más grande considerando el sonido fuerte de la batería
00:40:273 (1,2) - Esta distancia puede ser un poco inesperada después del HDash, yo movería 00:40:673 (2,3) - un poco a la derecha.
00:46:473 (2,3) - Yo habría esperado un HDash acá, ya usaste uno en un pattern anterior (00:39:873 (6,1) - )
01:05:673 (3,1,2) - Esta parte podría tener dashes/HDashes más fuertes, debido a que hay sonidos de batería fuertes.
01:34:473 (4,1) - Esperé un HDash entre estas notas.
01:53:073 (2,3,1) - Lo mismo con distancias altamente similares. Yo haría la primera más corta e incluso dejaría la segunda como HDash.

[Rain]

00:07:073 (2) - I'd slant this a bit to reduce the horizontal movement a bit. It can be quite tricky to catch and get the hyperdash! Considering the x1,5 SV multiplier, it's a lot more movement than 00:10:273 (2) - , when both should be really similar.
00:46:173 (5) - I'd move this a bit to the right, as it can be a bit trick to catch after the 1/4 HDash. Something like x:200 felt okay.
00:55:673 (4,5,6) - And the same stuff happens here. I'd move 00:55:673 (4,5) - to x:376 or so to reduce the distance to the circle after the 1/4 HDash.
01:16:673 (5,6,7,8) - I'd move this a bit to the right, since the 1/4 dashes felt a tiny bit tight in some testplays; x:72 felt nice.
01:18:273 (1,2) - Same here, I'd move (2) to x:348 or so.
01:23:873 (2,3) - Again, I'd reduce the distance a bit to increase the leniency after the 1/4 HDash. (3) on x:200 keeps the HDash to the following object, so it feels like a nice position.
01:32:673 (4,5) - I'd reduce this distance a bit because it feels tight and easy to miss. Something like x:280 for 01:32:873 (5) - already feels better.

Good luck with the mapset!

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-26T02:48:30+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Mod requested in my queue. get sniped kurokami

[Cup]
00:22:673 (1) Personally I think a repeat 1/1 like this is a bit boring to play. I'd prefer spliting into two 1/1 sliders, maybe placing it like this: - Sorry, I like this pattern. It's not that boring to play, I actually want easy players experience this kind of pattern. If I split this reverse slider and placing like picture below it will make the movement less than before.
SPOILER
00:29:073 (3,1) - This distance is significantly larger than any of the other 1/1 distances in this section, so I'd reduce it a bit. - Nice, reduce the distance a little bit.
00:30:473 (2) - I find it weird that you mapped the 1/2 sound here, but didn't for any other of the patterns of this section, so I'd take it out for consistency. - I removed the 1/2 sound here to follow other patterns.
00:53:473 (4) - This sounds really odd considering you're omitting a pretty strong vocal at 00:53:673 - but following the rest with 00:54:073 (1) -, so I'd change this to a 1/2 slider. - I changed the pattern into 1/2 reverse slider.
00:54:073 (1) - Again, there's something about the repeat 1/1 that I don't like. Try replacing it by two 1/1 sliders. - Same as comment number one.
00:59:873 (2,1) - Same stuff here. You're omitting a strong vocal with the first slider, and the 1/1 repeat slider has something that triggers me, so the previous suggestions also apply here. - I changed the pattern into 1/2 reverse slider.
01:23:473 (2,3) - You're totally missing emphasis on the downbeat at 01:24:273 - the way these sliders are mapped. I'd put the 3/2 slider first and then a 2/1 slider, as to have some small distance to 01:24:273 - . Basically, this timeline: - Nice, followed as suggested.
[Salad]
00:06:673 (4,1) - This distance is rather ambiguous, and it doesn't make me feel like "I need to dash for this" yet is hardly walkable. I'd reduce the distance a bit. - I changed pattern after this, so no change on note 4.
00:07:873 (2,3,4,5) - Having a 1/4 pattern before a dash feels like a bit too much for a Salad to me. I'd turn the 1/4 triplet into a 1/2 slider to reduce the strain a bit. - I changed into different pattern.
00:20:273 (1,2) - Hardly walkable and too random, considering all the previous patterns are walkable. I'd reduce the distance here. - I changed into different pattern.
00:24:073 (4,1) - Another ambiguous distance. I'd either increase it by 1 grid space to make it a little more clearer or reduce it. - Reduce the distance.
00:24:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - Tricky spacings here, hard to decide whether to walk or to dash. I'd reduce them a bit. - I increased the distance to make players must dash.
00:32:673 (4,1,2,3,4) - This pattern feels a bit hard for a Salad, because you have to go left a barely walkable distance and then go back in a 1/4 triplet, ending in another direction change. I think you can Ctrl+G 00:33:073 (1,2,3) - and move 00:33:473 (4) - to x:32. Not only it will make the flow easier, but it will create a nice dash between 00:33:473 (4,5) - to emphasize the finish at 00:33:873 - . - Followed the Ctrl+G but I changed the x-axis.
00:45:073 (3,1,2,3,1,2) - This is too hard for a Salad. I think you should Ctrl+G 00:45:373 (1) - and also move 00:46:173 (1,2) - a bit closer to the previous objects. - I changed into different pattern.
00:48:273 (1) - I'd move this a bit to the right. Since there's a 2/1 spacing between 00:46:673 (3,1) - , players might be too slow to notice the second slider, which might lead to an awkward and unnecessary dash. - Sorry, but I want this note symmetric with previous one.
00:50:673 (1,2,3,4,5) - You have two close and relatively large dashes here, so I'd move the triplet a bit to the left to reduce the difficulty a bit. - Reduce the distance.
00:55:073 (2,3,4,5,1) - Again, you have too much direction changes with a 1/4 pattern in between. Again, you could try Ctrl+G on 00:55:673 (3,4,5) - and then move 00:56:073 (1) - to the left of that triplet. - I will remap this part.
00:58:673 (3,4,5,6) - Same stuff here. You can Ctrl+G the triplet and even move it a bit more to the left, and then move 00:59:073 (6) - to the left of the triplet. It will also create a nice dash to 00:59:473 (1) - . - I will remap this part.
01:08:273 (2) - Mapping it as a repeat, you missed the chance to emphasize the downbeat at 01:09:073 - with its own object, and you also missed the chance to add a 1/2 repeat like you did on 01:05:873 (1) - . So I suggest you take out the repeat and add a repeat slider, basically this timeline: - I will remap this part.
01:24:673 (3,4,5,1) - The triplet adds a bit of strain to the pattern, so I'd replace it with a 1/2 slider to make the whole thing easier. - I will remap this part.
01:32:473 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - The dash between the circle and the 5-plet doesn't fit IMO, and also mapping the 1/4s made you lose a good chance to add a dash to 01:33:073 (1) -. So I'd put 01:32:673 (3) - closer to (2), delete 01:32:773 (4,6) - and create a dash between 01:32:873 (5,1) - to emphasize the beginning of the Kiai. - I changed into different pattern.
01:33:873 (3,4) - I think you could add a nice dash between these objects if you made the slider a bit more horizontal, to emphasize the downbeat at 01:34:673 - . This also applies for similar patterns. - I think the downbeat is not good enough for a dash.
01:45:073 (1,2,3) - Instead of having two ambiguous and rather similar distances, you could move 01:45:473 (2) - to the left a bit (maybe x:208?) making the first one easily walkable and requiring a dash for the 2nd, which serves to emphasize the downbeat at 01:45:873 - . Also applies for similar patterns. - Followed as suggested.
Good luck with the mapset!

Thanks for the mod.

Last edited by SYAHME 2016-11-04T16:24:09+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-10-26T08:41:04+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Mod requested in my queue. get sniped kurokami

[Rain]
00:07:073 (2) - I'd slant this a bit to reduce the horizontal movement a bit. It can be quite tricky to catch and get the hyperdash! Considering the x1,5 SV multiplier, it's a lot more movement than 00:10:273 (2) - , when both should be really similar. Made (2) 1.25x SV, which effectively does the same thing
00:46:173 (5) - I'd move this a bit to the right, as it can be a bit trick to catch after the 1/4 HDash. Something like x:200 felt okay. Sure, I didn't like how snappy this was anyway
00:55:673 (4,5,6) - And the same stuff happens here. I'd move 00:55:673 (4,5) - to x:376 or so to reduce the distance to the circle after the 1/4 HDash. Went for x-368, felt a tiny bit more balanced
01:16:673 (5,6,7,8) - I'd move this a bit to the right, since the 1/4 dashes felt a tiny bit tight in some testplays; x:72 felt nice. Done
01:18:273 (1,2) - Same here, I'd move (2) to x:348 or so. Sure
01:23:873 (2,3) - Again, I'd reduce the distance a bit to increase the leniency after the 1/4 HDash. (3) on x:200 keeps the HDash to the following object, so it feels like a nice position. Minimum I could get away with was x-208 so I used that
01:32:673 (4,5) - I'd reduce this distance a bit because it feels tight and easy to miss. Something like x:280 for 01:32:873 (5) - already feels better. Sure
Good luck with the mapset!

Thanks for the mod!

Rain

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SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-26T09:20:19+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:

ZiRoX wrote:
Mod requested in my queue. get sniped kurokami

[Rain]
00:07:073 (2) - I'd slant this a bit to reduce the horizontal movement a bit. It can be quite tricky to catch and get the hyperdash! Considering the x1,5 SV multiplier, it's a lot more movement than 00:10:273 (2) - , when both should be really similar. Made (2) 1.25x SV, which effectively does the same thing
00:46:173 (5) - I'd move this a bit to the right, as it can be a bit trick to catch after the 1/4 HDash. Something like x:200 felt okay. Sure, I didn't like how snappy this was anyway
00:55:673 (4,5,6) - And the same stuff happens here. I'd move 00:55:673 (4,5) - to x:376 or so to reduce the distance to the circle after the 1/4 HDash. Went for x-368, felt a tiny bit more balanced
01:16:673 (5,6,7,8) - I'd move this a bit to the right, since the 1/4 dashes felt a tiny bit tight in some testplays; x:72 felt nice. Done
01:18:273 (1,2) - Same here, I'd move (2) to x:348 or so. Sure
01:23:873 (2,3) - Again, I'd reduce the distance a bit to increase the leniency after the 1/4 HDash. (3) on x:200 keeps the HDash to the following object, so it feels like a nice position. Minimum I could get away with was x-208 so I used that
01:32:673 (4,5) - I'd reduce this distance a bit because it feels tight and easy to miss. Something like x:280 for 01:32:873 (5) - already feels better. Sure
Good luck with the mapset!

Thanks for the mod!

Rain

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Cowboy 2016-10-26T20:39:27+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Mod requested in my queue. get sniped kurokami

[Platter]
00:01:073 (1,2) - Esta distancia es bastante inesperada. Sugiero que muevas (2) un poquito a la derecha (alrededor de x:64 parece bien). Ok, distancia reducida.
00:02:673 (1,2,3) - Es raro que tengas una distancia más grande hacia esta nota que desde esta, considerando que el sonido que viene después es más fuerte. Yo sugiero que muevas (2) a x:232 o algo por ahí. Movido para un mejor movimiento.
00:05:873 (1,2,3) - Acá pasa lo mismo. Hice algo similar, espero haber entendido tu sugerencia.
00:14:473 (6,1) - Acá quedaría bastante bien un HDash. HDash agregado.
00:27:273 (4,5,1) - Creo que ya te había dicho en Fjarlaegur que a veces menos es más. Quizando (5) podrías poner un HDash de 1/2 que enfatiza bastante bien el cambio de sección, en vez de limitar la distancia porque en una Platter no se pueden usar HDashes de 1/4. Elimine (5) para poder hacer un HDash de 1/2, para ello moví las notas restantes hacia la derecha.
00:28:673 (5,6,1) - Acá también pasa un poco lo de que las distancias son muy similares cuando la segunda debería ser más larga. Aumente un poco más de distancia entre (5) y (6).
00:37:473 (2,3) - Acá uno esperaría una distancia más grande considerando el sonido fuerte de la batería Agregué más distnacia entre éstas notas.
00:40:273 (1,2) - Esta distancia puede ser un poco inesperada después del HDash, yo movería 00:40:673 (2,3) - un poco a la derecha. Distancia movida.
00:46:473 (2,3) - Yo habría esperado un HDash acá, ya usaste uno en un pattern anterior (00:39:873 (6,1) - ) HDash agregado.
01:05:673 (3,1,2) - Esta parte podría tener dashes/HDashes más fuertes, debido a que hay sonidos de batería fuertes. Podría tener pese a los sonidos fuertes, pero para evitar un desorden en mi estructura prefiero dejarlos como dashes.
01:34:473 (4,1) - Esperé un HDash entre estas notas. HDash agregado.
01:53:073 (2,3,1) - Lo mismo con distancias altamente similares. Yo haría la primera más corta e incluso dejaría la segunda como HDash. HDash agregado para mantener consistencia con 01:55:273 (4,1) - éste HDash.
Gracias por el mod, fue de ayuda.

Good luck with the mapset!

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SYAHME

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SYAHME 2016-10-27T01:48:20+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

ZiRoX wrote:
Mod requested in my queue. get sniped kurokami

[Platter]
00:01:073 (1,2) - Esta distancia es bastante inesperada. Sugiero que muevas (2) un poquito a la derecha (alrededor de x:64 parece bien). Ok, distancia reducida.
00:02:673 (1,2,3) - Es raro que tengas una distancia más grande hacia esta nota que desde esta, considerando que el sonido que viene después es más fuerte. Yo sugiero que muevas (2) a x:232 o algo por ahí. Movido para un mejor movimiento.
00:05:873 (1,2,3) - Acá pasa lo mismo. Hice algo similar, espero haber entendido tu sugerencia.
00:14:473 (6,1) - Acá quedaría bastante bien un HDash. HDash agregado.
00:27:273 (4,5,1) - Creo que ya te había dicho en Fjarlaegur que a veces menos es más. Quizando (5) podrías poner un HDash de 1/2 que enfatiza bastante bien el cambio de sección, en vez de limitar la distancia porque en una Platter no se pueden usar HDashes de 1/4. Elimine (5) para poder hacer un HDash de 1/2, para ello moví las notas restantes hacia la derecha.
00:28:673 (5,6,1) - Acá también pasa un poco lo de que las distancias son muy similares cuando la segunda debería ser más larga. Aumente un poco más de distancia entre (5) y (6).
00:37:473 (2,3) - Acá uno esperaría una distancia más grande considerando el sonido fuerte de la batería Agregué más distnacia entre éstas notas.
00:40:273 (1,2) - Esta distancia puede ser un poco inesperada después del HDash, yo movería 00:40:673 (2,3) - un poco a la derecha. Distancia movida.
00:46:473 (2,3) - Yo habría esperado un HDash acá, ya usaste uno en un pattern anterior (00:39:873 (6,1) - ) HDash agregado.
01:05:673 (3,1,2) - Esta parte podría tener dashes/HDashes más fuertes, debido a que hay sonidos de batería fuertes. Podría tener pese a los sonidos fuertes, pero para evitar un desorden en mi estructura prefiero dejarlos como dashes.
01:34:473 (4,1) - Esperé un HDash entre estas notas. HDash agregado.
01:53:073 (2,3,1) - Lo mismo con distancias altamente similares. Yo haría la primera más corta e incluso dejaría la segunda como HDash. HDash agregado para mantener consistencia con 01:55:273 (4,1) - éste HDash.
Gracias por el mod, fue de ayuda.

Good luck with the mapset!

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SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-10-28T17:36:39+00:00

After checking so many times, Cup diff is good enough for me but I have to re-map 00:41:073 - until 01:23:473 - this part on Salad. I will hold this maps for a while, you can rest Jusenkyo & JBHyperion.

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-11-06T08:03:59+00:00

I done re-map Salad, let's get down to business.

Terton

141 posts

Joined August 2015

Terton 2016-11-08T16:00:23+00:00

I came with a small mod as you asked

00:45:073 (3) - This note to x:384
00:46:673 (3) - This note to x:128 y:192
01:21:873 (2) - NC
01:26:673 (4) - ^
01:56:273 (3) - ^

Salad

You seem to me a little gone too far with the complexity, but everything seems good
00:37:873 (3) - NC
01:09:073 (5,1,2) - It looks as one combo
01:20:873 (6) - NC
01:41:873 (1,2,3,4,5) - Unnecessary NC

JUSEN'S PLATTER

00:37:873 (3) - NC
01:26:673 (3) - ^
01:29:573 (1,2,3) - Unnecessary NC
01:56:273 (3) - NC

HYPERION'S REDEMPTION

00:25:073 (3) - NC
00:37:873 (3) - ^

Nice map, hope to see it in the list ranked

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-11-08T16:43:34+00:00

Terton wrote:
I came with a small mod as you asked - :3
Cup
00:45:073 (3) - This note to x:384 - Sorry, it already perfect there.
00:46:673 (3) - This note to x:128 y:192 - ^.
01:21:873 (2) - NC - Maybe I will check for NC again.
01:26:673 (4) - ^ - Sorry, no change.
01:56:273 (3) - ^ - ^.
Salad
You seem to me a little gone too far with the complexity - I think this diff not that complex, imo, but everything seems good
00:37:873 (3) - NC - Sorry, no change.
01:09:073 (5,1,2) - It looks as one combo - Okay, changed.
01:20:873 (6) - NC - Nice, this part is too many combos.
01:41:873 (1,2,3,4,5) - Unnecessary NC - Why? no change.
Nice map, hope to see it in the list ranked - Soon maybe.

Thanks for the mod.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-11-08T23:53:10+00:00

Terton wrote:
I came with a small mod as you asked

JUSEN'S PLATTER
00:37:873 (3) - NC Don't need a NC here, don't have a new stanza or something to add.
01:26:673 (3) - ^ Same above.
01:29:573 (1,2,3) - Unnecessary NC Need NC to avoid stack notes.
01:56:273 (3) - NC Don't need to add a NC, that follow the pattern.
Nice map, hope to see it in the list ranked

Thanks for taking a look, but, not changes from me!

Kurokami

osu! Alumni

4,024 posts

Joined February 2010

Kurokami 2016-11-09T11:10:56+00:00

Gonna take a quick look.

[Salad]

01:46:673 (1,2,3) - I find the movement here a little bit hard. Mainly because of the jump from 2 to 3 which has a backwards movement. It would be nice to at least make 3 a little bit more vertical.

The rest seems pretty nice

[Platter]

00:17:073 (4,1,2,3) - The rhythm here feels really weird because with the first repeat slider you swapped the followed instrument from vocal to drums. This can throw players off easily. While I do understand what you followed with that slider I still recommend you to remove the repeat and just keep using 1/1s. If you want to avoid repetitive notes, just place two circle instead of a slider at some point.
00:21:673 (4,1) - Make this gap higher please. At the moment no dash needed to catch the next part of the build up although the music suggest jumplike movement.
00:22:673 (1,2,3,4) - As a continuation of the previous suggestion, these should have higher movements as well.
00:30:173 - Add a circle at this tick to follow the small drum hit which basically leads into the next two.
01:03:673 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - This part could be a little more jumpy in my opinion. Both the vocal and the instrument gives me lust for jumps.
01:29:873 - 01:31:273 - Are you sure you don't want to add a spinner here? The rest of the difficulties has one.
01:41:073 (5,6,7,8) - I think you should just use 4 1/2 slider at this part and place higher movement between them. This is basically similar to the previously mentioned part.
01:53:873 (1,2,3,4) - This is again a part where you could be a little more wild and use more note instead of these two long slider. Do not make it unnecessarily easier even if its fit please. This is not Cup or Salad anymore.

[Rain]

00:55:873 (5,6) - I find this a little bit luck depended because of the previous Hyper. Can you move 6 a little bit back to left?
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Most issue is cleared up, I see.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-11-09T11:23:22+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
Gonna take a quick look.

[Rain]

00:55:873 (5,6) - I find this a little bit luck depended because of the previous Hyper. Can you move 6 a little bit back to left? If I do this it'll remove the next hyper, and if I make 00:56:273 (1) - any more vertical it won't flow so well for the held vocal. I find this comfortable enough with the current spacing.

Most issue is cleared up, I see.

Thanks for the recheck, if you need further clarification just ask.

Edit: Didn't see the previous mod. NC patterns are defined as one per measure for consistency, and even though those sliders are spaced, it's not necessary to add NCs imo.

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-11-09T12:27:01+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
Gonna take a quick look. - Nice

[Salad]

01:46:673 (1,2,3) - I find the movement here a little bit hard. Mainly because of the jump from 2 to 3 which has a backwards movement. It would be nice to at least make 3 a little bit more vertical. - Actually I want to make the pattern same with the previous one. Instead make the note 3 a little bit more vertical, I changed the direction of tail note 2 to the left to omit the backward movement.

The rest seems pretty nice - Thanks <3

Most issue is cleared up, I see. - Glad to hear that.

Thanks for a quick look.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-11-09T23:00:30+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
Gonna take a quick look.

[Platter]

00:17:073 (4,1,2,3) - The rhythm here feels really weird because with the first repeat slider you swapped the followed instrument from vocal to drums. This can throw players off easily. While I do understand what you followed with that slider I still recommend you to remove the repeat and just keep using 1/1s. If you want to avoid repetitive notes, just place two circle instead of a slider at some point. Sure, repeats removed.
00:21:673 (4,1) - Make this gap higher please. At the moment no dash needed to catch the next part of the build up although the music suggest jumplike movement. Distance increased.
00:22:673 (1,2,3,4) - As a continuation of the previous suggestion, these should have higher movements as well. Distance increased too.
00:30:173 - Add a circle at this tick to follow the small drum hit which basically leads into the next two. Circle addded.
01:03:673 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - This part could be a little more jumpy in my opinion. Both the vocal and the instrument gives me lust for jumps. Re-mapped that part for better structure.
01:29:873 - 01:31:273 - Are you sure you don't want to add a spinner here? The rest of the difficulties has one. I'm pretty sure, don't need to be the same.
01:41:073 (5,6,7,8) - I think you should just use 4 1/2 slider at this part and place higher movement between them. This is basically similar to the previously mentioned part. Re-mapped that part, for better movements.
01:53:873 (1,2,3,4) - This is again a part where you could be a little more wild and use more note instead of these two long slider. Do not make it unnecessarily easier even if its fit please. This is not Cup or Salad anymore. Re-mapped, it's better.

Thanks for the mod, was helpful!

Update

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SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-11-09T23:33:07+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

Kurokami wrote:
Gonna take a quick look.

[Platter]

00:17:073 (4,1,2,3) - The rhythm here feels really weird because with the first repeat slider you swapped the followed instrument from vocal to drums. This can throw players off easily. While I do understand what you followed with that slider I still recommend you to remove the repeat and just keep using 1/1s. If you want to avoid repetitive notes, just place two circle instead of a slider at some point. Sure, repeats removed.
00:21:673 (4,1) - Make this gap higher please. At the moment no dash needed to catch the next part of the build up although the music suggest jumplike movement. Distance increased.
00:22:673 (1,2,3,4) - As a continuation of the previous suggestion, these should have higher movements as well. Distance increased too.
00:30:173 - Add a circle at this tick to follow the small drum hit which basically leads into the next two. Circle addded.
01:03:673 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - This part could be a little more jumpy in my opinion. Both the vocal and the instrument gives me lust for jumps. Re-mapped that part for better structure.
01:29:873 - 01:31:273 - Are you sure you don't want to add a spinner here? The rest of the difficulties has one. I'm pretty sure, don't need to be the same.
01:41:073 (5,6,7,8) - I think you should just use 4 1/2 slider at this part and place higher movement between them. This is basically similar to the previously mentioned part. Re-mapped that part, for better movements.
01:53:873 (1,2,3,4) - This is again a part where you could be a little more wild and use more note instead of these two long slider. Do not make it unnecessarily easier even if its fit please. This is not Cup or Salad anymore. Re-mapped, it's better.

Thanks for the mod, was helpful!

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Kurokami

osu! Alumni

4,024 posts

Joined February 2010

Kurokami 2016-11-10T12:22:36+00:00

I like the changes.

SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-11-10T12:46:14+00:00

Kurokami wrote:
I like the changes. - <3

Thanks Kurokami

BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

BoberOfDarkness 2016-11-10T13:22:35+00:00

As promised, sorry for being late as always ;w;

Cup

00:10:673 (1,2) - swamp NC, new combo should be placed 00:11:473 (2) - because there is new vocals line start and new stanza
00:22:673 - 00:27:473 - I would change pattering here a bit
-00:22:673 (1) - ctrl + g gives some movement between this and previous note
-re:work timeline using 2 1/1 sliders with placing I did here
-delete the 00:27:473 (1) - and place spinner from 00:25:873 - to 00:27:473 -
00:27:473 - 00:37:073 - in this part I don't like the way you place New Combos. In this part of the song placing NC on strongest beats have more sense. For me the place for New Combos are those:
00:29:073 (3) - NC
00:30:673 (2) - NC
00:32:273 (2) - NC
00:33:873 (3) - NC
00:35:473 (2) - NC

Salad

00:50:673 (1,2,3) - feels way to much spaced, try moving 00:51:073 (2) - one grid left is enough to fix the problem
01:23:473 (3,1) - space it a bit more, feels weird without any movement tbh
01:45:473 (2,3) - lower distance by one grid
01:47:073 (2,3) - ^
01:48:673 (2,3) - ^
01:50:273 (2,3) - ^
01:51:873 (2,3) - for consistency that should be more spaced
01:55:473 (1,3) - again one grid less and pattern will be fine

Platter

01:29:873 - here is good place for spinner and all other diffs have spinner placed there, leaving this part unmapped feels at least 'weird' to me

Quote from Guidelines:

Try to have at least one spinner in each difficulty to create variety in the map and fluctuation among scores. However, if a spinner just doesn't fit anywhere in the song, then there's no need to force one.

Rain looks fine to me.

Good luck!

Edit: fixed that blanks xD Sorry I was in hurry

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-11-10T22:48:05+00:00

BoberOfDarkness wrote:
As promised, sorry for being late as always ;w;

Platter

01:29:873 - here is good place for spinner and all other diffs have spinner placed there, leaving this part unmapped feels at least 'weird' to me Since many ppl asked for a spinner here, i'll put.

Quote from Guidelines:
Try to have at least one spinner in each difficulty to create variety in the map and fluctuation among scores. However, if a spinner just doesn't fit anywhere in the song, then there's no need to force one.

Edit: fixed that blanks xD Sorry I was in hurry

Thanks for the mod.

Update

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 91473
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:BRAVE OUT
TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Benami Konami Jusenkyo JBHyperion
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SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-11-11T00:57:36+00:00

BoberOfDarkness wrote:
As promised, sorry for being late as always ;w; - It's okay.

Cup
00:10:673 (1,2) - swamp NC, new combo should be placed 00:11:473 (2) - because there is new vocals line start and new stanza - Nice, changed.
00:22:673 - 00:27:473 - I would change pattering here a bit - We'll see.
-00:22:673 (1) - ctrl + g gives some movement between this and previous note - Sorry, if I ctrl+g the flow become awkward.
-re:work timeline using 2 1/1 sliders with placing I did here - Sorry, this timeline have a strong beat, so I want to separate them.
-delete the 00:27:473 (1) - and place spinner from 00:25:873 - to 00:27:473 - Sorry, I want to keep this strong note.
00:27:473 - 00:37:073 - in this part I don't like the way you place New Combos. In this part of the song placing NC on strongest beats have more sense. For me the place for New Combos are those:
00:29:073 (3) - NC - Nice, changed.
00:30:673 (2) - NC - ^.
00:32:273 (2) - NC - ^.
00:33:873 (3) - NC - ^.
00:35:473 (2) - NC - ^.

Salad
00:50:673 (1,2,3) - feels way to much spaced, try moving 00:51:073 (2) - one grid left is enough to fix the problem - Done
01:23:473 (3,1) - space it a bit more, feels weird without any movement tbh - Nice, changed.
01:45:473 (2,3) - lower distance by one grid - Done
01:47:073 (2,3) - ^ - ^.
01:48:673 (2,3) - ^ - ^.
01:50:273 (2,3) - ^ - ^.
01:51:873 (2,3) - for consistency that should be more spaced - Sorry, I want this note symmetry with the next one & it fit the vocal.
01:55:473 (1,3) - again one grid less and pattern will be fine - Done

Good luck! - Thanks

Edit: fixed that blanks xD Sorry I was in hurry - It's okay.

Thanks for the mod.

Last edited by SYAHME 2016-11-11T01:24:35+00:00, edited 6 times in total.

SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SYAHME 2016-11-11T01:00:02+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:

Platter

01:29:873 - here is good place for spinner and all other diffs have spinner placed there, leaving this part unmapped feels at least 'weird' to me Since many ppl asked for a spinner here, i'll put. - Nice

Quote from Guidelines:

Try to have at least one spinner in each difficulty to create variety in the map and fluctuation among scores. However, if a spinner just doesn't fit anywhere in the song, then there's no need to force one.

Thanks for the mod.

Update

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:BRAVE OUT
Artist:nomico / DOWNFORCE
ArtistUnicode:nomico / DOWNFORCE
Creator:SYAHME
Version:JUSEN'S PLATTER
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:masayoshi minoshima alstroemeria records electrance MAP DX-5 Qprogue Benami Konami Jusenkyo JBHyperion
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SYAHME

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SYAHME 2016-11-11T01:22:06+00:00

Fix some minor pattern, NC & add spinner in platter.

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

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ZiRoX 2016-11-12T02:05:01+00:00

Manually popping the bubble because I think there are some issues that need to be addressed, which will be marked as bold. All the rest are small suggestions I found while checking for further issues.

[Cup]

00:53:473 (1) - The repeat here sounds horrible and is really unfitting with the rest of the patttern. I still think a simple 1/2 slider is better, as I suggested originally.
00:59:873 (2) - Same here.

[Salad]

00:01:073 (1,2) - Starting the song with such a strong dash doesn't really feel adequate to me in a diff that's supposed to introduce dashes. Try slanting (1) a bit so the difficulty of the dash is reduced a bit.
00:07:473 (1,2) - As the first appearance of 1/2 dashes, I think these can be a bit overwhelming. Try moving 00:07:873 (2) - to x:240 to decrease the difficulty a bit.
00:14:673 (2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - All these spacings can be a bit quite to walk depending on the player's timing, and the symmetric spacing doesn't induce dashing in any way. I think using ~x1,40 instead of ~x1,60 as a constant spacing is better to make it more walkable.
00:53:473 (1,1) - Same comment as in Cup, the repeat makes it sound weird, so I'd change them to single 1/2 sliders.[/b]
01:19:073 (3) - Same thing here, I think the repeat doesn't sound that good. Furthermore, you omitted it at a similar part at 01:22:473 (2) - , so it makes sense to turn (3) into a single 1/2 slider.
01:24:673 (2,1) - Feels like a really harsh dash. I'd reduce the distance a bit.
01:25:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - All these distances are really harsh to walk (and if you intended them to be dashed it's wrong anyway, having so many dashes in a row).
01:51:873 (2,3) - It's weird that you suddenly dropped the dash pattern than you used right before. Maybe you can Ctrl+G (3) and then Ctrl+G 01:53:073 (4) - to get the dash back.
01:55:473 (1,2,3,4) - I'd reduce the distance between the sliders, the dashes can be a bit hard for newer players.

[Platter]

00:01:073 (1,2) - This distance can be a bit unexpected, so I'd move (1) a bit to the right to make it more lenient
00:02:673 (1,2,3) - 00:03:473 (3,4,1) - Distances are weird on this type of patterns as a dash is required, but the second distance isn't large enough so it can be a bit ambiguous whether to dash or not. I'd make the dash requirement a bit more clearer by increasing the second distance, for example, by putting 00:03:273 (2) - on x:248 and 00:04:073 (4) - on x:120. The same thing happens at 00:05:073 (3,4,1,2,3) -
00:28:073 (3,4) - Same here, I'd increase the distance to make it clearer.
00:28:673 (5,6,1) - Nearly symmetrical distance that's hard to walk and doesn't induce dashing. It's also weird that you didn't add a dash to 00:29:073 (1) - considering you added a HDash to 00:27:473 (1) - , which is a similar note.
The same thing happens at 00:30:273 (5,6,1) -
00:34:673 (4,5,1) - Why is the distance (4,5) larger than (5,1) when (1) is clearly the stronger note
00:40:673 (2) - I'd Ctrl+G this to make it more lenient, the distance to it can be a bit unexpected after the previous HDash.
00:46:673 (3,4) - ^Same thing here
01:02:673 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - On this part you randomly decided to put a lot of dashes. I'd trim their usage a bit.
01:13:073 (3,4,1) - Weird placement of distances, as (3,4) is stronger than (4,1) when (1) is clearly the stronger than (4).
01:18:673 (1,2,3) - One would expect a larger distance between (2,3) than (1,2), I'd even put a dash, considering (3) has a noticeable drum sound.
01:20:073 (4,1) - I'd add a stronger dash here, similar reasons to the previous suggestion.
01:21:873 (1,2,3) - More awkward nearly symmetrical distances here weee~
01:33:073 (1,2,3) - Weirdly distancing, why are you making (1,2) larger than (2,3) when <insert what's previously said>?

[Rain]

00:29:673 (4,5) - I expected a HDash on this, similar as you did on 00:28:073 (4,5) - .
00:31:573 (6,7) - Similar stuff here, I expected a HDash based on previous patterns.
00:36:073 (4,5) - And same stuff.
01:13:073 (3,4,5,6) - 01:14:673 (3,4,5,6) - I think the distance increase is a bit odd here and not hinted too much by the music. Particularly, the (5,6) distance feels really tight to walk and doesn't make me think I have to dash, so I think moving (5) closer to the other objects is good suck fymmetry

Rilene

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Rilene 2016-11-12T03:48:11+00:00

[Cup]
00:50:673 (2) - Why not 1/2 to represent the beat stronger?
01:03:073 (2) - Move the end a bit to the left? Plain straight slider doesn't seem to fit here.
01:10:273 (1) - Same here and be sure to find similar sliders.

[Salad]
00:07:873 (2) - Move a little bit closer?
00:17:073 (1,2,1) - Horizontal flip?
00:24:273 (1,2,1,2) - Maybe make it like?... http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6546615 - Just to give a flow instead of straightforward pause between the beat.
01:25:073 (1,2) - Try scale it down by x0.8 with a selection center.
01:26:673 (1,2) - Same as above.

Just some short mod, hope this helps

SYAHME

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SYAHME 2016-11-12T03:55:59+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Manually popping the bubble because I think there are some issues that need to be addressed, which will be marked as bold. All the rest are small suggestions I found while checking for further issues.

[Cup]
00:53:473 (1) - The repeat here sounds horrible and is really unfitting with the rest of the pattern. I still think a simple 1/2 slider is better, as I suggested originally. - Done, changed.
00:59:873 (2) - Same here. - ^.
[Salad]
00:01:073 (1,2) - Starting the song with such a strong dash doesn't really feel adequate to me in a diff that's supposed to introduce dashes. Try slanting (1) a bit so the difficulty of the dash is reduced a bit. - Reduced a little bit.
00:07:473 (1,2) - As the first appearance of 1/2 dashes, I think these can be a bit overwhelming. Try moving 00:07:873 (2) - to x:240 to decrease the difficulty a bit. - Done, changed.
00:14:673 (2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - All these spacings can be a bit quite to walk depending on the player's timing, and the symmetric spacing doesn't induce dashing in any way. I think using ~x1,40 instead of ~x1,60 as a constant spacing is better to make it more walkable. - Changed to x1.40.
00:53:473 (1,1) - Same comment as in Cup, the repeat makes it sound weird, so I'd change them to single 1/2 sliders. - Done, changed.
01:19:073 (3) - Same thing here, I think the repeat doesn't sound that good. Furthermore, you omitted it at a similar part at 01:22:473 (2) - , so it makes sense to turn (3) into a single 1/2 slider. - Done, changed.
01:24:673 (2,1) - Feels like a really harsh dash. I'd reduce the distance a bit. - Reduced a little bit.
01:25:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - All these distances are really harsh to walk (and if you intended them to be dashed it's wrong anyway, having so many dashes in a row). - Changed to x1.40.
01:51:873 (2,3) - It's weird that you suddenly dropped the dash pattern than you used right before. Maybe you can Ctrl+G (3) and then Ctrl+G 01:53:073 (4) - to get the dash back. - Done, changed.
01:55:473 (1,2,3,4) - I'd reduce the distance between the sliders, the dashes can be a bit hard for newer players. - Reduced a little bit.

Rilene wrote:
[Cup]
00:50:673 (2) - Why not 1/2 to represent the beat stronger? - Sorry, I map the strongest beat only. I think in the middle of the slider, it is okay not to map it.
01:03:073 (2) - Move the end a bit to the left? The plain straight slider doesn't seem to fit here. - Sorry, I want this to be completely vertical and I think it is not plain, instead it give more variety to the pattern.
01:10:273 (1) - Same here and be sure to find similar sliders. - ^.

[Salad]
00:07:873 (2) - Move a little bit closer? - Done
00:17:073 (1,2,1) - Horizontal flip? - Sorry, the flow will become awkward.
00:24:273 (1,2,1,2) - Maybe make it like?... http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6546615 - Just to give a flow instead of straightforward pause between the beat. - Sorry, I like this vertical sliders.
01:25:073 (1,2) - Try scale it down by x0.8 with a selection center. - Done, reduce a little bit.
01:26:673 (1,2) - Same as above. - ^.

Just some short mod, hope this helps - Thanks

Thanks for the mod.

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