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HakuNoKaemi
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on domenica 6 novembre 2011 at 16.56.11

Artist: Kawada Mami
Title: See visionS (TV Size)
Source: Toaru Majutsu no Index II
Tags: JC Staff Kazuma Kamachi Project Index I've Sound Rondo Robe cesc [Shalon] Mok Nekoo[]
BPM: 164
Filesize: 18106kb
Play Time: 01:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. cesc's Easy (2,46 stars, 113 notes)
  2. Hard (4,86 stars, 247 notes)
  3. Mok's visionS (4,31 stars, 163 notes)
  4. Nekoo's Insane (4,99 stars, 257 notes)
  5. Normal (4,14 stars, 159 notes)
  6. Shalon's Taiko (5 stars, 375 notes)
Download: Kawada Mami - See visionS (TV Size)
Download: Kawada Mami - See visionS (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Bonus Diff's
CTB by PhantomX Download
Dance Dance Revolution/Stepmania by Me Download Graph

Last Full Upload: 15/06/2011

Map Difficulty Set
Easy by cesc - 100 %
Normal by me - 100%
Hard by Mok - 100%
Hard by me - 100%
Insane by Nekoo[] - 100%
Taiko by [Shalon] - 100%

Enriched the skin of my previous map :D
Added Lighting and Follow Point on 6/05/2011
Made NoVideo .osb size go down from 7,2 Mb to 5,6 Mb by Compressing and Optimizing the Skin plus SB
Added Creditlaess video.

Particular thanks to:
Nekoo[],[Shalon],Mok and cesc for the guests
Inamaru for the encouragement
ziin for having modded it so much and fixed the skin

+some skin elements :3

I'll mod Shalon's Taiko, as he's not entering by 1 month... and registering the mods here plus the versions
No Mod applied by me
Some Mods
SPOILER
00:05:694 (x): Added a kd
00:11:548 (1): Remapped this spinner with d kdK (space =1/1, nospace =1/2)
00:35:694 (1) - Added a D, less spinner however
01:03:499 (153) - it's a K now
01:11:548 (191) - it's a k
Zelos
As per your irc request.

Offset 531 and resnap.

General:

You have a 320 kpb mp3. you need to find one that is between 128-192 kpbs or reencode the one you have now.

i didnt see a storyboard so delete the OSB.

i will mod latr.
ziin
artist: kawada mami - unless you have a really good reason to keep it this way (considering you changed it for "no buts"). If you do put it in the first post so it doesn't come up again.
if you do change the artist, change the title too: "See visionS". Otherwise it's not worth a full resubmit.

[normal+]
00:04:939 (9) - why the slow?
00:09:329 (10,11) - these and the notes before it would probably sound better ending on the beat
00:16:646 (3) - no beat here since you're mapping to the lyrics, or maybe a long slider to 00:18:109 (1)?
00:20:853 (1) - start slider on 00:21:036 and add a note at 00:20:853
00:22:134 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/SAR
00:23:780 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - ewwwww. do something completely different.
00:47:561 (3) - would sound better without the 4th repeat, and it repeats a bunch

[hard]
00:04:939 (9) - why the slow? Fits better here, but I still don't see why it's necessary.
00:09:512 (9,11) - very confusing jumps
00:22:500 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/SBe
00:23:780 (1) - slider
00:27:256 (4,1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/SBp etc...
00:59:085 (1,2,3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/SBy if not, they're not snapped right
01:06:219 (1) - this isn't getting ranked

[nekoo]
I know you're still working on it, but this bugged me:
01:09:512 (2) - I missed it the first time because hit300g/k hide it completely

[lunatic]
holy crap.
kiai should probably be the same in all difficulties.
overall the map's rhythm is overwhelmingly boring. It's one giant jumpstream with some holds and oddly placed triplets.
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

ziin wrote:

artist: kawada mami - unless you have a really good reason to keep it this way (considering you changed it for "no buts"). If you do put it in the first post so it doesn't come up again. want to see if someone does receive the "Unconsistent" Bubble pop
if you do change the artist, change the title too: "See visionS". Otherwise it's not worth a full resubmit.

[normal+]
00:04:939 (9) - why the slow?
00:09:329 (10,11) - these and the notes before it would probably sound better ending on the beat removed the 9, the slider represent the sing
00:16:646 (3) - no beat here since you're mapping to the lyrics, or maybe a long slider to 00:18:109 (1)? it's mapped to the guitar too
00:20:853 (1) - start slider on 00:21:036 and add a note at 00:20:853
00:22:134 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/SAR
00:23:780 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - ewwwww. do something completely different. long slider were too easy, syllabyc mapping were too hard, just changed the pattern :D
00:47:561 (3) - would sound better without the 4th repeat, and it repeats a bunch toggled one repeat on the other one too

[hard]
00:04:939 (9) - why the slow? Fits better here, but I still don't see why it's necessary. it fits :D
00:09:512 (9,11) - very confusing jumps
00:22:500 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/SBe
00:23:780 (1) - slider
00:27:256 (4,1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/SBp etc...
00:59:085 (1,2,3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/SBy if not, they're not snapped right it wasn't snapped right >:<
01:06:219 (1) - this isn't getting ranked
ShanaTan
Yoink!

All finished, fixed it ziin, thanks ^^

Download: Mami Kawada - See VisionS (TV Size) (HakuNoKaemi) [Nekoo's Insane].osu
ziin

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[normal+]
00:23:780 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - ewwwww. do something completely different. long slider were too easy, syllabyc mapping were too hard, just changed the pattern :D

[hard]
00:59:085 (1,2,3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/SBy if not, they're not snapped right it wasn't snapped right >:<
[normal+]
00:23:780 - http://puu.sh/SEQ is this too hard? If so, you've got the rhythm starting on red, white, then red again. It sounds weird.

[hard]
00:38:414 (1) - ack I keep missing this jump
00:41:707 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is awkward every time I play it.
00:43:353 (7) - copy/paste 8, then mirror.
00:50:670 (6) - snap
00:54:878 (10) - ^
00:59:085 - end of 3 isn't snapped right, and I really didn't like 4 and 5 which have nothing in the background to support them. It doesn't even end on a white beat...
01:02:195 (10) - found another snap, along with bad spacing.
01:06:219 (1,2) - switch these.
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

ziin wrote:

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[normal+]
00:23:780 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - ewwwww. do something completely different. long slider were too easy, syllabyc mapping were too hard, just changed the pattern :D

[hard]
00:59:085 (1,2,3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/SBy if not, they're not snapped right it wasn't snapped right >:<
[normal+]
00:23:780 - http://puu.sh/SEQ is this too hard? If so, you've got the rhythm starting on red, white, then red again. It sounds weird.
thank, didn't thought of this pattern

[hard]
00:38:414 (1) - ack I keep missing this jump
00:41:707 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is awkward every time I play it.
00:43:353 (7) - copy/paste 8, then mirror.
00:50:670 (6) - snap
00:54:878 (10) - ^
00:59:085 - end of 3 isn't snapped right, and I really didn't like 4 and 5 which have nothing in the background to support them. It doesn't even end on a white beat...
01:02:195 (10) - found another snap, along with bad spacing.
01:06:219 (1,2) - switch these.
i don't remember to have changed slider velocity >.<
nonhuman1111
Stars are here
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
thank you
KanaRin
Star>w<
Good luck
Aki Evans
Star 4 good map :)
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
thank!
ziin
I hope you don't mind me constantly re-modding; every time I play it, it seems like I find something strange with it, and nobody else seems to be modding yet.

[hard]
00:06:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - not really symmetrical, so here's some which are:
256,312,6402,5,0
376,256,6768,1,0
376,128,7134,1,0
256,72,7500,1,0
136,128,7866,1,0
136,256,8232,1,0
256,312,8597,1,0
00:28:719 (4) - these still sound weird maybe this is what you wanted? http://puu.sh/THi
00:31:646 (4) - ^
01:14:634 (4) - I want to hit this at 01:14:451
01:23:780 (9) - new combo?
01:25:792 (13,14) - switch these?
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

ziin wrote:

I hope you don't mind me constantly re-modding; every time I play it, it seems like I find something strange with it, and nobody else seems to be modding yet. Maybe you like the map :D, that time

[hard]
00:06:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - not really symmetrical, so here's some which are:
256,312,6402,5,0
376,256,6768,1,0
376,128,7134,1,0
256,72,7500,1,0
136,128,7866,1,0
136,256,8232,1,0
256,312,8597,1,0
00:28:719 (4) - these still sound weird maybe this is what you wanted? http://puu.sh/THi
00:31:646 (4) - ^
changed it in another mode ( listened to the song at 25% vel and vocally mapped )
01:14:634 (4) - I want to hit this at 01:14:451
01:23:780 (9) - new combo? mmm... no i did it at (6) and at (12)
01:25:792 (13,14) - switch these?
ziin

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

Maybe you like the map :D, that time
I like this one a lot better, and the last one grew on me. :)
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
XD
cesc
I've finished my guest easy. I'm not a fan of this anime, I just mapped it as Haku's request. Hope it's going well ~
Remember to add "cesc" in tags ^^

Download: Mami Kawada - See VisionS (TV Size) (HakuNoKaemi) [cesc's Easy].osu
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
Aggiunta :D
-kevincela-
Mia mod~

Verde:sono solo suggerimenti,e si può anche non fixare
Blu:Fixare queste cose potrebbe rendere il gameplay migliore
Rosso:Errore,è consigliabile fixare

[cesc's Easy]

01:02:744(2):Ctrl+r?

Apparte quello,nessun problema,anche se in delle parti mi sembra più una normal che una easy

[Normal+]

00:02:744(5):Allungare la nota fino al tick bianco,eliminando la nota 6?
00:25:792(4):Mettilo sotto lo slider
00:28:719(4):^
00:31:646(4):^
01:03:475:Aggiungi una nota


[Hard]

00:15:914(2):Rimuovi,e copia lo slider 1,incollalo, e lo giri(CTRL+H)
00:28:719(4):Perchè non rimpiazzi lo slider con una nota?
00:31:646(4):^

00:35:670 a 00:41:341:A me questa parte è un può fuori tmpo,poi non so che cosa ne pensano gli altri,comunque puoi lasciarlo così per ora
01:14:451(4):Allunga lo slider fino il tick bianco

[Nekoo's Insane]
Great work,I love your diff :D

[Inamaru's Lunatic]
Non ho niente da dire,appare che i cerchi degli streams sono davvero lontani :O

Per finire,ecco una stella,hai fatto davvero un bel lavoro haku :D
[Shalon]
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

-kevincela- wrote:

Mia mod~

[Normal+]

00:02:744(5):Allungare la nota fino al tick bianco,eliminando la nota 6? il 5 è "through" il 6 è "the"
00:25:792(4):Mettilo sotto lo slider - meglio com'è ora
00:28:719(4):^ - ^
00:31:646(4):^ - ^
01:03:475:Aggiungi una nota
Qui segue la voce, quindi non serve

[Hard]

00:15:914(2):Rimuovi,e copia lo slider 1,incollalo, e lo giri(CTRL+H)
dovrebbe essere molto meglio così :D
00:28:719(4):Perchè non rimpiazzi lo slider con una nota? 3 = na 4 = i (gorgheggio)
00:31:646(4):^
^
00:35:670 a 00:41:341:A me questa parte è un può fuori tmpo,poi non so che cosa ne pensano gli altri,comunque puoi lasciarlo così per ora dovrebbe essere meglio ora >,<
01:14:451(4):Allunga lo slider fino il tick bianco meglio come ho corretto ora :D, il ritmo è migliore così

Per finire,ecco una stella,hai fatto davvero un bel lavoro haku :D
la versione con queste mod a tra poco >.<
Sander-Don
taiko BG (?)



STAR~~~ xD
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
thank you!
cesc
Can you add cesc and [Shalon] in tags, please? (all difficulties)
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
added all guest creators in all diff's
PedoDarK
Star *-*
giO-
star
_Kiva
star the map first~
Mok
Ecco la diff che ho provato a fare :3

Download: Mami Kawada - See VisionS (TV Size) (HakuNoKaemi) [Mok's VisionS].osu
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
messa >:<
-kevincela-
Haku,aggiungi Mok alle tags :D
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
uh?
già l'ho fatto >.<
MathiasXII
Hi! I got your request :3. Unfortunately, I can't really help you on what you asked since I'm a technical modder (meaning anything that has to do with files/mp3s). Note spacing and graphics are hence, not in my panel of modding. I suggest you ask someone else.

Sorry... I hope you'll forgive me one day ~ :( .
-kevincela-

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

uh?
già l'ho fatto >.<
Mmm a me non sembra infatti c'è scritto nelle tags:
Tags: JC Staff Kazuma Kamachi Project Index I've Sound Rondo Robe cesc [Shalon] Inamaru Nekoo[]
non trovo nessun Mok tra le tags D:
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
stai controllando quella di Inamaru forse >.< prova con le altre
IceBeam
Nekoo's Insane and cesc's Easy have different Preview Time,fix it.

Countdown doesn't work,maybe disable it?

Have to say that maximum allowed size of BG is 1024 x 768.

[cesc]
00:23:780 (1) - This note isn't neccessary,I'd remove.
00:29:634 (1) - ^ Same,I mean..it sounds good even without it,so as long,as it's easy,I'd remove.
00:36:036 (1,2,3,4) - Jumps,no really,there're almost 2x jumps.I'm not sure if it's good for Easy.
00:42:805 (2) - Again,you don't really need this note.
00:43:902 (6) - ^
00:47:195 (1) - ^
00:50:122 (1) - ^
Oh well,I'm just complaining about it's difficulty.It's not really Easy,it's Normal.
Your mapset is filled with a large choice of different difficulties,why not to make really Easy difficulty then?

[Normal +]
Claps don't really fit..
00:22:134 (4) - First time I though there will be a single circle,not a slider.It's almost hidden,you know.Could you change to a better way?
The main problem is in hitsounds,I wouldn't use claps,and add some more whistles.

[Mok]
AR 8 for 4-star difficulty? No way..
Other stats need to be reduced too.
00:21:036 (9) - New combo? Such long combos aren't recommended.
00:32:378 - Why this part isn't mapped or has a break at least?
01:26:341 (3) - Move to 01:26:524.

[Hard]
Again,I can't hear any hitsounds at the beginning,they're really few..Please,add some whistles at least.
00:18:658 (3) - Move to 00:18:841.
00:43:353 (9,10) - Almost unreadable to me.
1,2 Velocity for Hard is kinda..low.Such a low velocity/spacing makes map hard to read.

[Nekoo]
Everything is good here.Mapping style,hitsounds and overall - pretty solid.

Good luck,have my star.
Infinity_old
star
Firo Prochainezo
Star!
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

IceBeam wrote:

[Normal +]
Claps don't really fit..
00:22:134 (4) - First time I though there will be a single circle,not a slider.It's almost hidden,you know.Could you change to a better way?
The main problem is in hitsounds,I wouldn't use claps,and add some more whistles.

[Hard]
Again,I can't hear any hitsounds at the beginning,they're really few..Please,add some whistles at least.
00:18:658 (3) - Move to 00:18:841. added note on 00:18:841
00:43:353 (9,10) - Almost unreadable to me. uh?
1,2 Velocity for Hard is kinda..low.Such a low velocity/spacing makes map hard to read.

uh? Mok Hard have the same slider velocity and even lower spacing, low velocity slider pretty fit that song...
should insert hitsound in my diff's
poisonchan
Hai :3 Modding your map as your request.
Remember, most of the things I'm going to list here are just suggestions ~ <3 Hope it helps.
I have... issues modding Easy so I will give priority to the other diffs.
I don't mod Taiko, so.. >< Sorry.

General:
The tags and source MUST be the same in all the diffs.

cesc's Easy:
00:49:573 (4,1) - Too large spacing for an easy ?

Normal+:
00:52:866 (1,2) - This spacing looks confusing for a normal. Even worst with the skin. Try to move the (2) a bit down.

Mok's VisionS:
00:01:463 (2) - I think this beat sounds better here: 00:01:646
00:21:036 (9) - Spacing looks odd. Is following the spacing of this note: 00:19:390 (6) - but should follow this one: 00:19:756 (7) - .
00:30:183 - Add a beat here
00:40:426 (1,2,3,4,5) - Hm.. For me, sounds better if this combo starts at 00:40:061. Change the spacing a bit closer, and it will sounds nice.
00:55:244 - Add a beat here
00:55:427 (3) - Move this beat to 00:55:609 (Just if you fixed this thing ^)

Hard:
01:06:219 (1,2) - Spacing looks odd (Sorry for being nazi), too close, can be confusing.

Nekoo's Insane:
00:18:109 (7,1) - Yeah, I know this is an Insane, but this jump is a bit.. 'forced''.
00:42:988 - Add a beat here ?


wow, I'm surprised. I really liked the mapset ^-^

Congratz, hope it helps.
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
Corrected what i could :D
Takuya
Mok
PhantomX_old
I request "Guest Difficulty(Catch The Beat)"

Can you permit that I add CTB level?

Download: Mami Kawada - See VisionS (TV Size) (HakuNoKaemi) [PhantomX's CTB].osu
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
CtB level are unrankable, but i can simply add it in the desciption :D
cesc
Fixed something from the modders who post here in the topic and from Kuroneko-sHerald

Download: Mami Kawada - See VisionS (TV Size) (HakuNoKaemi) [cesc's Easy].osu
Kuroneko-sHerald
[General]
Il titolo corretto è See visionS, con la v minuscola.
Source: È To aru Majutsu no Index II

[cesc's easy]
irc modding.

[Normal +]
Come detto in altri post i clap non ci stanno molto bene.
00:52:866 (1,2) - Non si capisce se viene prima lo slider o il circle. Ti consiglio di non sovrapporli.
01:18:841 (2,2) - Secondo me sono di troppo.

Mok's VisionS
Aggiungere lo spinner finale?

Star~
narakucrimson
Hi!

[cesc's Easy]
  1. Meh, it has a few "jumps" that I wouldn't use on an Easy, but, whatever~~ (I said "jumps" because they aren't too extreme either)
  2. 26:890 (4) ~ 29:085 (4) - This looks a bit confusing for a noob imo.
[Normal+]
  1. I think just [Normal] is ok.
  2. 08:963 (8) - 1 grid down and 1 grid left. It will result in a more equilateral triangle pattern :)
  3. 52:866 (1) ~ 54:512 (4) - This looks pretty ugly imo. And I can't think of any way to solve it at the moment :/.

[Mok's VisionS]
  1. 13:902 (5) - Well maybe this could be more symmetrical:
Gud, gud.


[Hard]
  1. Just noticed this on this diff but I didn't hear many hitsounds until 35:853. USE HITSOUNDS. A few whistles should do~~ Something similar as in [Nekoo's Insane]
Well that's all I've got to say for now. ([Nekoo's Insane] is pretty good).

Have a star.
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

narakucrimson wrote:

Hi!

[Normal+]
  1. I think just [Normal] is ok.
  2. 08:963 (8) - 1 grid down and 1 grid left. It will result in a more equilateral triangle pattern :)
  3. 52:866 (1) ~ 54:512 (4) - This looks pretty ugly imo. And I can't think of any way to solve it at the moment :/. if graphically, i've arleady chenged it a bit in Kuroneko-sHerald mod
[Hard]
  1. Just noticed this on this diff but I didn't hear many hitsounds until 35:853. USE HITSOUNDS. A few whistles should do~~ Something similar as in [Nekoo's Insane]
Have a star.
ShanaTan
Fixed the spacing and some minor hitsounding stuffs. . . .

Download: Mami Kawada - See VisionS (TV Size) (HakuNoKaemi) [Nekoo's Insane].osu
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