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Kibbleru
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Kibbleru
alright this is a lot less tilting to look at

00:44:775 (2,4) - i think ctrl g makes this pattern nicer imo
00:57:912 (1) - imo its better to place this in the middle
01:46:474 (1) - the finish hitsound kind of lacks impact imo, maybe stack it with a clap too?
same for everything else that is similar to this one ^
02:00:912 (1,2,3,4) - um. how do i explain this. i think you should keep this jump as a part of the same area of the playfield as the previous stuff? 01:59:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - (bottom left corner?)
02:28:568 (3) - whats with the random triplet here? if anything a triplet could do here 02:29:318 - cuz of this sound 02:29:224 -
03:04:664 (5,7) - space this more

05:00:524 (2) - woaah i suggest u get somebody to help you do some timing stuff. it gets wayyy off here.
some red lines probably needed

ok as i said on irc, i suggest you rework a few of the jumps in the kiai (ofc this applies for all the kiais)
sorting by priority here
02:02:412 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
01:59:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:47:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
at the very least do something about the first one in the list. and ofc do the same to the other kiais.

i hope you can make some more structured jumps.
what do i mean by more structured? like the kind of stuff skystar does (you can check USAO - pendulum for some references)

actually ill just make u an example isntead
i replaced this jump pattern here 02:02:412 - until 02:05:412 -
SPOILER
380,115,122412,5,12,0:1:0:0:
187,230,122599,1,2,0:0:0:0:
373,335,122787,1,2,0:0:0:0:
88,88,122974,5,12,0:1:0:0:
282,212,123162,1,2,0:0:0:0:
108,311,123349,1,2,0:0:0:0:
221,138,123537,69,12,0:1:0:0:
247,305,123724,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,94,123912,5,14,0:1:0:0:
131,167,124099,1,0,0:0:0:0:
306,190,124287,1,8,0:0:0:0:
148,71,124474,1,8,0:0:0:0:
115,256,124662,5,10,0:0:0:0:
312,94,124849,1,8,0:0:0:0:
396,271,125037,1,8,0:0:0:0:
264,11,125224,1,8,0:0:0:0:
zekromshock
24 posts
Joined June 2017
zekromshock

Kibbleru wrote:

alright this is a lot less tilting to look at

00:44:775 (2,4) - i think ctrl g makes this pattern nicer imo
00:57:912 (1) - imo its better to place this in the middle
01:46:474 (1) - the finish hitsound kind of lacks impact imo, maybe stack it with a clap too?
same for everything else that is similar to this one ^
02:00:912 (1,2,3,4) - um. how do i explain this. i think you should keep this jump as a part of the same area of the playfield as the previous stuff? 01:59:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - (bottom left corner?)
02:28:568 (3) - whats with the random triplet here? if anything a triplet could do here 02:29:318 - cuz of this sound 02:29:224 -
03:04:664 (5,7) - space this more

05:00:524 (2) - woaah i suggest u get somebody to help you do some timing stuff. it gets wayyy off here.
some red lines probably needed

ok as i said on irc, i suggest you rework a few of the jumps in the kiai (ofc this applies for all the kiais)
sorting by priority here
02:02:412 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
01:59:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:47:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
at the very least do something about the first one in the list. and ofc do the same to the other kiais.

i hope you can make some more structured jumps.
what do i mean by more structured? like the kind of stuff skystar does (you can check USAO - pendulum for some references)

actually ill just make u an example isntead
i replaced this jump pattern here 02:02:412 - until 02:05:412 -
SPOILER
380,115,122412,5,12,0:1:0:0:
187,230,122599,1,2,0:0:0:0:
373,335,122787,1,2,0:0:0:0:
88,88,122974,5,12,0:1:0:0:
282,212,123162,1,2,0:0:0:0:
108,311,123349,1,2,0:0:0:0:
221,138,123537,69,12,0:1:0:0:
247,305,123724,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,94,123912,5,14,0:1:0:0:
131,167,124099,1,0,0:0:0:0:
306,190,124287,1,8,0:0:0:0:
148,71,124474,1,8,0:0:0:0:
115,256,124662,5,10,0:0:0:0:
312,94,124849,1,8,0:0:0:0:
396,271,125037,1,8,0:0:0:0:
264,11,125224,1,8,0:0:0:0:
05:00:524 (2) - With this, do you mean that it's off the 'ka' vocal or that it's off in general?
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru
the entire section gets fukd in general, listen for urself lol
Zallies
499 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Zallies

Kibbleru wrote:

alright this is a lot less tilting to look at

00:44:775 (2,4) - i think ctrl g makes this pattern nicer imo fine ill switch it
00:57:912 (1) - imo its better to place this in the middle keeping at the left that when i placed on middle, distance snap destroyed so i keep on the left
01:46:474 (1) - the finish hitsound kind of lacks impact imo, maybe stack it with a clap too? added clap
same for everything else that is similar to this one ^
02:00:912 (1,2,3,4) - um. how do i explain this. i think you should keep this jump as a part of the same area of the playfield as the previous stuff? 01:59:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - (bottom left corner?)
02:28:568 (3) - whats with the random triplet here? if anything a triplet could do here 02:29:318 - cuz of this sound 02:29:224 - just as same as 00:26:233 (4) - and 00:32:046 (5) - it is supposedly that part is a high ds becuase of that silent finish.
03:04:664 (5,7) - space this more got it

05:00:524 (2) - woaah i suggest u get somebody to help you do some timing stuff. it gets wayyy off here.
some red lines probably needed found someone ! !

ok as i said on irc, i suggest you rework a few of the jumps in the kiai (ofc this applies for all the kiais)
sorting by priority here
02:02:412 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
01:59:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:47:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
at the very least do something about the first one in the list. and ofc do the same to the other kiais. oh yea the other parts of kiai 2 too okok

i hope you can make some more structured jumps.
what do i mean by more structured? like the kind of stuff skystar does (you can check USAO - pendulum for some references) skystar has some really big ds, ill try my best to make more structured jumps ! i know its a loved map, but its also rankable jumpy

actually ill just make u an example isntead
i replaced this jump pattern here 02:02:412 - until 02:05:412 -
SPOILER
380,115,122412,5,12,0:1:0:0:
187,230,122599,1,2,0:0:0:0:
373,335,122787,1,2,0:0:0:0:
88,88,122974,5,12,0:1:0:0:
282,212,123162,1,2,0:0:0:0:
108,311,123349,1,2,0:0:0:0:
221,138,123537,69,12,0:1:0:0:
247,305,123724,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,94,123912,5,14,0:1:0:0:
131,167,124099,1,0,0:0:0:0:
306,190,124287,1,8,0:0:0:0:
148,71,124474,1,8,0:0:0:0:
115,256,124662,5,10,0:0:0:0:
312,94,124849,1,8,0:0:0:0:
396,271,125037,1,8,0:0:0:0:
264,11,125224,1,8,0:0:0:0:
overall i rework a few times of jumps at kiai parts. so here it is!
and fix some broken patterns

Updaet'd !
zekromshock
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Joined June 2017
zekromshock
Zallies, were the red lines starting from 05:00:570 in the latest beatmap update or in an earlier one? There's been a lot of changes so I just need to make sure of some things.
Mir
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Joined July 2016
Mir
hello
[General]
Unused hs:
Old\drum-hitclap.wav
Old\drum-hitfinish.wav
Old\drum-hitwhistle.wav
Old\soft-hitclap.wav
Old\soft-hitfinish.wav
Old\soft-hitwhistle.wav
Old\soft-sliderslide.wav
Old\soft-sliderslide2.wav
Old\soft-slidertick2.wav

Timing line conflicts:
00:47:423 - (volume level)
00:57:912 - (volume level)
02:32:427 - (custom set number)
04:32:397 - (volume level)
04:47:425 - (volume level)
05:50:997 - (volume level)
[My Love Story]
- 00:09:764 (1,1) - You can make some cooler sliders here imo, since these sounds stand out a lot. Even subtle wave sliders or something work.
- 00:24:546 (4) - Either two circles or circle + slider work here since the red is actually stronger here imo // 00:30:546 (5) -
- 00:30:921 (1,2,3,4) - Aesthetic stuff like this can be easily corrected if you moved 4 a bit to the right to form a nice square.
- 00:36:171 (4,5) - I think two 1/2 sliders work nicer since 00:36:733 - isn't very strong and 00:36:546 - is so covering this with a sliderhead and 00:36:733 - with an end works. You can apply this to all rhythms with 00:39:171 (4,5) - etc
- 00:44:775 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - Would be nice to see some snare emphasis instead of just.. constant jumps at the same DS relatively.
- 00:51:923 (1,2,3,4) - Not a fan of how 1, without vocals, gets put into a pattern consisting of otherwise only vocal sliders. I think you can make 1 stand out differently. // 00:54:923 (1,2,3,4) -
- 00:57:912 (1) - Timing is off here and continues for the whole map. This song has massive drifts in BPM so you need to time it accordingly. Either take it from the ranked set with permission from the person who timed it initially, or get someone to time this.
- 01:27:349 (3,4) - Could use more emphasis on 4 imo.
- 01:27:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - The music is increasing in intensity but all the jumps have similar DS. :/
- 01:36:912 (1,2) - One has two vocals the other doesn't, the first should be two circles at least imo.
- 01:39:724 (1) - I think this sliderend should be clickable since it's a lot stronger than the head.
- 01:43:755 (3) - Snare on head clickable snare on tail not clickable is ?? I think both should be clickable lol
- 02:02:412 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Emphasis on the finishes are quite lackluster imo, you can make more contrast here I think by nerfing/buffing spacing on non-finish/finishes respectively.
- 02:18:162 (2,3,1) - Again finish has the least emphasis why? This happens throughout the map so look at all of your jump sections and make sure they have emphasis otherwise it just looks like jump-spam for no reason.
- 02:22:474 (4,1) - Swapping NCs here seems appropriate considering the snare.
- 02:32:427 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - There's so much spacing here for such soft sounds.. you can do like, stacks or really low spacing overlapped 1/2?
- 03:03:914 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Emphasissssssssssssssssssssss...
- 04:59:211 (1) - Also think this should be clickable too.
- 05:54:788 (1) - End on the downbeat would sound better.
[ ]
Your jumps really need more emphasis atm they have like none, they're just jumps. And your rhythm is very plain and uninteresting when you put so many things as unclickable when they're strong in the song too. Work on these please.

Good luck!
Zallies
499 posts
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Topic Starter
Zallies
MapleDialga

MapleDialga wrote:

Zallies, were the red lines starting from 05:00:570 in the latest beatmap update or in an earlier one? There's been a lot of changes so I just need to make sure of some things.

Mir

Mir wrote:

[General]
Unused hs:
Old\drum-hitclap.wav
Old\drum-hitfinish.wav
Old\drum-hitwhistle.wav
Old\soft-hitclap.wav
Old\soft-hitfinish.wav
Old\soft-hitwhistle.wav
Old\soft-sliderslide.wav
Old\soft-sliderslide2.wav
Old\soft-slidertick2.wav

Timing line conflicts:
00:47:423 - (volume level)
00:57:912 - (volume level)
02:32:427 - (custom set number) supposedly, not custom hitsounds
04:32:397 - (volume level)
04:47:425 - (volume level)
05:50:997 - (volume level)
[My Love Story]
- 00:09:764 (1,1) - You can make some cooler sliders here imo, since these sounds stand out a lot. Even subtle wave sliders or something work.
- 00:24:546 (4) - Either two circles or circle + slider work here since the red is actually stronger here imo // 00:30:546 (5) - by the end of it,
00:25:108 - this red tick is a main, so idk if you add 1/1 to circle, since this part is important to flow the sliders
- 00:30:921 (1,2,3,4) - Aesthetic stuff like this can be easily corrected if you moved 4 a bit to the right to form a nice square.
- 00:36:171 (4,5) - I think two 1/2 sliders work nicer since 00:36:733 - isn't very strong and 00:36:546 - is so covering this with a sliderhead and 00:36:733 - with an end works. You can apply this to all rhythms with 00:39:171 (4,5) - etc
- 00:44:775 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - Would be nice to see some snare emphasis instead of just.. constant jumps at the same DS relatively. ill high it
- 00:51:923 (1,2,3,4) - Not a fan of how 1, without vocals, gets put into a pattern consisting of otherwise only vocal sliders. I think you can make 1 stand out differently. // 00:54:923 (1,2,3,4) - its just something that makes it other patterns so i tried to put down all sliders
- 00:57:912 (1) - Timing is off here and continues for the whole map. This song has massive drifts in BPM so you need to time it accordingly. Either take it from the ranked set with permission from the person who timed it initially, or get someone to time this. add new timing sec
- 01:27:349 (3,4) - Could use more emphasis on 4 imo.
- 01:27:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - The music is increasing in intensity but all the jumps have similar DS. :/
- 01:36:912 (1,2) - One has two vocals the other doesn't, the first should be two circles at least imo.
- 01:39:724 (1) - I think this sliderend should be clickable since it's a lot stronger than the head.
- 01:43:755 (3) - Snare on head clickable snare on tail not clickable is ?? I think both should be clickable lol actually if i add 2 1/2 sliders it would be a kickslider like skystar's pendulum, overall i choose this 3/4
- 02:02:412 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Emphasis on the finishes are quite lackluster imo, you can make more contrast here I think by nerfing/buffing spacing on non-finish/finishes respectively.
- 02:18:162 (2,3,1) - Again finish has the least emphasis why? This happens throughout the map so look at all of your jump sections and make sure they have emphasis otherwise it just looks like jump-spam for no reason. okay every this sections fixed for emphasis, i did a V then < to ^ to > etc.
- 02:22:474 (4,1) - Swapping NCs here seems appropriate considering the snare. the violin + white tick can be good other than claps
- 02:32:427 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - There's so much spacing here for such soft sounds.. you can do like, stacks or really low spacing overlapped 1/2?
it destroyed the emphasis of overlapping and the flow of the song
- 03:03:914 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Emphasissssssssssssssssssssss...
- 04:59:211 (1) - Also think this should be clickable too.
- 05:54:788 (1) - End on the downbeat would sound better.
[ ]
Your jumps really need more emphasis atm they have like none, they're just jumps. And your rhythm is very plain and uninteresting when you put so many things as unclickable when they're strong in the song too. Work on these please. also my jumps at kiai (i just rework my patterns there D:)
then ill try to fix my jump w emphasis

Good luck!
noreply = fixed

hoping that ill this will be succes
thanks for the mods !
Ametrin
717 posts
Joined May 2012
Ametrin
nm from my q

I looked at Mir's mod and decide to find something about jumps xd

00:26:233 (4) - do u really think there should have a note? like 00:29:233 - is ok since it's not clickable
00:30:171 - this should be clickable as music get a bit more intense here (and all the same part later)
00:36:546 (5) - ctrl+g
00:38:233 (7) - put it stack with 4 will make more sense
00:44:025 (3,1) - too close imo. just put 3 away like 491|27
00:45:150 (4) - stack with 2
00:51:923 (1) - ctrl+g to emphasize 00:52:298 (2) -
00:56:048 (4) - ctrl+g? up to u lol
01:42:747 (4) - put at 01:42:935 (1) - , while 01:42:935 (1) - stack with 01:42:560 (3) - (or somewhere like 332|107), then 01:43:122 (2,3) - ctrl+h to fit the flow
01:47:435 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - uhhh... too random imo :?
01:56:810 (3) - just put a slider here? blank at 01:56:810 (3) - in the intense part feels so weird
01:59:435 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - x_x

:skip some part since they are almost same as previous:

04:12:147 (3) - ctrl+g. i cant see the reason why it keep the same direction as 04:11:397 (1) -
04:54:925 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - bad geometry

uhhh lazy (run
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru
wenever ur redy
Zallies
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Topic Starter
Zallies

Ametrin wrote:

00:26:233 (4) - do u really think there should have a note? like 00:29:233 - is ok since it's not clickable thers a hit finished
00:30:171 - this should be clickable as music get a bit more intense here (and all the same part later) piano is still playing/tried to 1/1 flow on the piano
00:36:546 (5) - ctrl+g making the ds too small
00:38:233 (7) - put it stack with 4 will make more sense guitar rise, making the ds too close
00:44:025 (3,1) - too close imo. just put 3 away like 491|27 woah i though making like ( ) srsly no
00:45:150 (4) - stack with 2 rhythm arent doing the repeated
00:51:923 (1) - ctrl+g to emphasize 00:52:298 (2) -
00:56:048 (4) - ctrl+g? up to u lol ^ same
01:42:747 (4) - put at 01:42:935 (1) - , while 01:42:935 (1) - stack with 01:42:560 (3) - (or somewhere like 332|107), then 01:43:122 (2,3) - ctrl+h to fit the flow making the ds arent so good every new nc, make a new jump pattern
01:47:435 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - uhhh... too random imo :? tried to make "= jump" xd
01:56:810 (3) - just put a slider here? blank at 01:56:810 (3) - in the intense part feels so weird vocal stopped ikr
01:59:435 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - x_x saem

:skip some part since they are almost same as previous:

04:12:147 (3) - ctrl+g. i cant see the reason why it keep the same direction as 04:11:397 (1) - sure
04:54:925 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - bad geometry
noreply_good

thans fr mdding !
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru
Unused hitsounds:
Old\drum-hitclap.wav
Old\drum-hitfinish.wav
Old\drum-hitwhistle.wav
Old\soft-hitclap.wav
Old\soft-hitfinish.wav
Old\soft-hitwhistle.wav
Old\soft-sliderslide.wav
Old\soft-sliderslide2.wav
Old\soft-slidertick2.wav

Timings:
00:57:935 (volume level)
02:32:427 (custom set number)
04:32:397 (volume level)
04:47:425 (volume level)

make sure the red line and green line are the same volume and custom sample number!
Zallies
499 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Zallies

Kibbleru wrote:

Unused hitsounds:
Old\drum-hitclap.wav
Old\drum-hitfinish.wav
Old\drum-hitwhistle.wav
Old\soft-hitclap.wav
Old\soft-hitfinish.wav
Old\soft-hitwhistle.wav
Old\soft-sliderslide.wav
Old\soft-sliderslide2.wav
Old\soft-slidertick2.wav already done removing all of it

Timings:
00:57:935 (volume level)
02:32:427 (custom set number) guitar on the default of soft-hitwhistle
04:32:397 (volume level)
04:47:425 (volume level)

make sure the red line and green line are the same volume and custom sample number!
nore_ply= fix

fix some patterns for aesthetics
and fix the inherited volumes

thanks !
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru
Timings:
02:32:427 (custom set number)
Mithia
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Mithia
Holy... is very cool <3 I love it :)
Zallies
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Topic Starter
Zallies
almost forgot hehehe done xd
Kibbleru
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!!!
Mir
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Mir
04:11:397 - Timing from this point on is slightly off. Notes like 04:11:772 - 04:12:147 - 04:12:522 - etc etc are all off.
05:41:439 - Additionally off-timed section.

I really think this map needs way more intricate timing. supercell songs usually have very bad tempo consistency. Try to ask some people that are proficient with timing.

Yukiyo's map has a lot more complex timing. Maybe you can ask to use that timing from pimpG?

Oh yeah provided that gets fixed just get a rebubble.
zekromshock
24 posts
Joined June 2017
zekromshock

Mir wrote:

04:11:397 - Timing from this point on is slightly off. Notes like 04:11:772 - 04:12:147 - 04:12:522 - etc etc are all off.
05:41:439 - Additionally off-timed section.

I really think this map needs way more intricate timing. supercell songs usually have very bad tempo consistency. Try to ask some people that are proficient with timing.

Yukiyo's map has a lot more complex timing. Maybe you can ask to use that timing from pimpG?

Oh yeah provided that gets fixed just get a rebubble.
Timer here.

I asked Yukiyo for using the timing, but I haven't got a reply, just in case anyone's wondering.
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru
o wtf

yeah that part is so off, whoops didnt notice till i played with 25%
Zallies
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Topic Starter
Zallies
dafuq jus hapeen
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pimp
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pimp
sup

yes you can use my timing but i suggest you to also use yukiyo's mp3 file.
zekromshock
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Joined June 2017
zekromshock

pimpG wrote:

sup

yes you can use my timing but i suggest you to also use yukiyo's mp3 file.

MapleDialga wrote:

Mir wrote:

04:11:397 - Timing from this point on is slightly off. Notes like 04:11:772 - 04:12:147 - 04:12:522 - etc etc are all off.
05:41:439 - Additionally off-timed section.

I really think this map needs way more intricate timing. supercell songs usually have very bad tempo consistency. Try to ask some people that are proficient with timing.

Yukiyo's map has a lot more complex timing. Maybe you can ask to use that timing from pimpG?

Oh yeah provided that gets fixed just get a rebubble.
Timer here.

I asked Yukiyo for using the timing, but I haven't got a reply, just in case anyone's wondering.
pimp
1,417 posts
Joined April 2010
pimp
dude I was asked by the mapper for permission to use the timing I created from scratch for Yukiyo's mapset.

btw Zallies i'm suggesting this because there is a lot more off sections than the BN mentioned, and there is no way i'm doing full timing for that song again (i'm adapting some small parts to fit the new mapset but that's it).


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what i did was basically removing all of your current red lines, removing yukiyo's green lines then merging them together and resnapped the green lines to new offsets

for now you will have to fix your kiai, volume and double check the sample changes. i can do that myself but i suppose Zallies can do it faster because the mapper knows the mapset better.

i will be back tomorrow.
pimp
1,417 posts
Joined April 2010
pimp
made some improvements here and there...

your difficulty for yukiyo's mp3: https://puu.sh/xDXgS/122225b7e9.txt

that's all i can do for you until you fix the kiai, volume, recheck the sample changes

now your heart slider will sound better having the slider end in the white tick, remember to fix it too.

also 00:11:135 (2) - on your original timing this note ends on a 1/8 tick, and this was totally not right. when using my timing the correct spot was in the blue tick, so the conversion made it unsnapped. in order to make it end on the blue tick without changing your slider structure, i had to add a custom slider velocity multiplier for it as a temporary fix. it's up to you to keep the custom slider speed for that single note or to remove it and snap it with the main slider velocity multiplier of this section.

i would like to recheck before bubble.

GL
Zallies
499 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Zallies

pimpG wrote:

dude I was asked by the mapper for permission to use the timing I created from scratch for Yukiyo's mapset.

btw Zallies i'm suggesting this because there is a lot more off sections than the BN mentioned, and there is no way i'm doing full timing for that song again (i'm adapting some small parts to fit the new mapset but that's it).


timing points for yukiyo's mp3
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what i did was basically removing all of your current red lines, removing yukiyo's green lines then merging them together and resnapped the green lines to new offsets

for now you will have to fix your kiai, volume and double check the sample changes. i can do that myself but i suppose Zallies can do it faster because the mapper knows the mapset better.

i will be back tomorrow.

pimpG wrote:

made some improvements here and there...

your difficulty for yukiyo's mp3: https://puu.sh/xDXgS/122225b7e9.txt

that's all i can do for you until you fix the kiai, volume, recheck the sample changes

now your heart slider will sound better having the slider end in the white tick, remember to fix it too.

also 00:11:135 (2) - on your original timing this note ends on a 1/8 tick, and this was totally not right. when using my timing the correct spot was in the blue tick, so the conversion made it unsnapped. in order to make it end on the blue tick without changing your slider structure, i had to add a custom slider velocity multiplier for it as a temporary fix. it's up to you to keep the custom slider speed for that single note or to remove it and snap it with the main slider velocity multiplier of this section. its okay, ill just remove and do it smaller slider instead

i would like to recheck before bubble.

GL
all of its volume, timing, and extra (inherited points) were removed/added
im sure that all of the inherited points are accurate.. cuz i re-volume and add the timing+inherited points

a big thank u! you did great, you've fixed all the timings !! <3
pimp
1,417 posts
Joined April 2010
pimp
glad you liked it

don't give me a 3rd kudosu (actually you should not have given me the 2nd either)

00:11:667 - volume conflicts between green and red lines.
00:17:510 - ^
00:22:931 - ^
01:17:875 - ^
02:10:395 - custom sample conflicts between green and red lines
03:46:010 - volume conflicts between green and red lines
03:59:480 - ^
04:10:713 - ^
04:10:900 - ^
04:11:105 - ^
04:11:480 - ^
04:56:500 - ^
05:17:485 - ^
05:18:994 - ^
05:19:735 - ^
05:20:495 - ^
05:23:484 - ^
05:52:699 - ^
05:54:855 - ^

fix this and you should be ready.
Zallies
499 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Zallies

pimpG wrote:

glad you liked it

don't give me a 3rd kudosu (actually you should not have given me the 2nd either) LOL i didnt know and also u gib effort on my map so i gib more kds :DDD
all fix all ready
Mir
osu! Alumni
2,151 posts
Joined July 2016
Mir
The heart at the end looks a bit lopsided now but meh.

Seems fine now, go get your rebub.
Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
5,844 posts
Joined August 2013
Kibbleru
sure
Rumia-
2,513 posts
Joined July 2012
Rumia-
damn i really love this song i had this dl'd from last year and it changed really lot~ (in a good way of course)!
gogogo
Enon
2,690 posts
Joined November 2012
Enon
A N O T H E R O N E
Zallies
499 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Zallies
woah its been a month now..

but im still looking for another bubble guy :((

!!
-Zeraora
654 posts
Joined November 2014
-Zeraora

Zallies wrote:

but im still looking for another bubble guy :((
Wait, don't you just need a heart icon next?
Zallies
499 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Zallies

-Harpuia- wrote:

Zallies wrote:

but im still looking for another bubble guy :((
Wait, don't you just need a heart icon next?
nagtanong na ako, tas ayaw HAH :(( well im doing my best..
zekromshock
24 posts
Joined June 2017
zekromshock

Zallies wrote:

woah its been a month now..

but im still looking for another bubble guy :((

!!
Can't you ask Mir again?
_DT3
1,403 posts
Joined October 2015
_DT3

MapleDialga wrote:

Zallies wrote:

woah its been a month now..

but im still looking for another bubble guy :((

!!
Can't you ask Mir again?
He might not want to nominate though if I saw correctly
RShields
13 posts
Joined May 2017
RShields
Right now, there are 799 timing points, of which 480 are redlines. That's way too many, and not because it's a big number. Get rid of the redlines that literally land on the same as what a normal red tick or white tick would be, unless it has a clear and justifiable purpose.

(Note that you tend to NC on the downbeats, which should be the big white ticks. Anything that causes your NCs to desync with the big white ticks is suspicious.)

(Fun fact: ALIEN has 329 timing points, of which 185 are redlines.)
Zallies
499 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Zallies

RShields wrote:

Right now, there are 799 timing points, of which 480 are redlines. That's way too many, and not because it's a big number. Get rid of the redlines that literally land on the same as what a normal red tick or white tick would be, unless it has a clear and justifiable purpose.

(Note that you tend to NC on the downbeats, which should be the big white ticks. Anything that causes your NCs to desync with the big white ticks is suspicious.)

(Fun fact: ALIEN has 329 timing points, of which 185 are redlines.)


fun fact: how about this ranked map? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/525260
RShields
13 posts
Joined May 2017
RShields

Zallies wrote:

fun fact: how about this ranked map? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/525260
That map has 935 timing points, of which 383 are redlines.
(Someone else noted that you could steal the timing from a ranked map. If you want to steal the timing from that map, go for it.)
Note that neither having lots of timing points nor having lots of redlines is unrankable. But most of modding isn't about things that are unrankable. I submitted a suggestion that you're free to ignore if you feel that it wouldn't work. To repeat that suggestion,
Remove the timing points that have no impact and change existing ones that could be done more efficiently.

(Also, that's not a fun fact. Don't ruin the sanctity of fun facts.)
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