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osu!catch World Cup 2016 - Discussion Thread

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GlyVyX
So I finally get locked out of CwC because everyone accuses me of being -Kuroha Neko- (literally an multiaccount) and there are no proofs of it.

I thought the rules were sth like this


There is NO rule that says that I'm getting locked out if I'm suspicious or because everyone thinks I'm an multiaccount.

If I would be really an multiaccount I would be banned but instead Im only locked out and not being banned... SO WHY am i not allowed to play in the cwc?? I'm not even banned I'm only "suspicious".

Why don't you admins at least follow some of your own rules just because I am suspicious doesn't mean I AM guilty. If Im guilty then ban me and dont lock me out of anything lol

Edit: lololol 1 post \o/
Riari

ZiRoX wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

But do you have #Potential ? (^:

No Tom, no potential
kek
lineqtxz
gl to all


xd
DeletedUser_500696

JBHyperion wrote:

But do you have #Potential ? (^:

I am expecting great things. Good luck to everyone :)
Riari
Fun
autofanboy
Hype
_felix_
So, good luck everyone!
Topic Starter
Loctav
schedule and mappool is on the wiki. I will update the participants list with the groups later!
nya10

Loctav wrote:

schedule and mappool is on the wiki. I will update the participants list with the groups later!
Also when you'll look at the wiki, would you like to fix the flag picture on "Belgium"?
dsh
hf :P
o x
I'm excited to watch this year (: looks like some really fun matches are going to be played

I'm loving the map pool as well!
slimmecodo1
I have a question but idk if I should ask it here but ehh... yeah

So i'm playing on a mac, but i can't switch to stable (latest). It locks at stable (fallback). My question is, will I be able to play the tournament on stable (fallback)? The score V2 only works on stable (latest) if I'm right.

(Btw excited for the tournament :D GL everyone!)
Topic Starter
Loctav
I asked for that and I got told that you should use a PC, unless you can get the Alpha release for OSX working (check http://osx.ppy.sh/)

Stable Fallback does not support ScoreV2 and therefore can not be used during the tournament at any platform.
slimmecodo1

Loctav wrote:

I asked for that and I got told that you should use a PC, unless you can get the Alpha release for OSX working (check http://osx.ppy.sh/)

Stable Fallback does not support ScoreV2 and therefore can not be used during the tournament at any platform.
Okay i downloaded it and stable (latest) works. Problem is that it has a delay. Is there a way to keep the delay at a minimum?
JBHyperion
Some really interesting picks in the mappool this year - I follow the progress of quite a lot of unranked sets but was surprised to find several maps I was completely unaware of lol.

Rip all the nomod/HD players who signed up for the Convert World Cup though (^:
autofanboy

JBHyperion wrote:

Rip all the nomod/HD players who signed up for the Convert World Cup though (^:
:>
Pew_old_1
That's a really nice tiebreaker map

Tbh i thought go 4 it rain was gonna be the tiebreaker
DeletedUser_500696

JBHyperion wrote:

Some really interesting picks in the mappool this year - I follow the progress of quite a lot of unranked sets but was surprised to find several maps I was completely unaware of lol.

Rip all the nomod/HD players who signed up for the Convert World Cup though (^:
Rip me
JBHyperion

Pew wrote:

Tbh i thought go 4 it rain was gonna be the tiebreaker
Damn map selectors crushing our dreams (^:
He Ang CTB

JBHyperion wrote:

Pew wrote:

Tbh i thought go 4 it rain was gonna be the tiebreaker
Damn map selectors crushing our dreams (^:
I thought Augo was in DT pool. Stop crushing my dreams map selectors :x
Hirikoshi

JBHyperion wrote:

Rip all the nomod/HD players who signed up for the Convert World Cup though (^:
Rip Me
worst mappol ever ups
Deif

JBHyperion wrote:

Some really interesting picks in the mappool this year - I follow the progress of quite a lot of unranked sets but was surprised to find several maps I was completely unaware of lol.

Rip all the nomod/HD players who signed up for the Convert World Cup though (^:
It's surprising how many good Pending/Graveyarded CtB osu!catch beatmaps are there, and from so many different mappers/styles. And people thought CtB was dead! You can expect from year to year that the number of specific beatmaps will increase though.

He Ang Erika wrote:

I thought Augo was in DT pool. Stop crushing my dreams map selectors :x
Augo DT is even too easy for the Group Stage please :^)
Kingkevin30

Deif wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

Some really interesting picks in the mappool this year - I follow the progress of quite a lot of unranked sets but was surprised to find several maps I was completely unaware of lol.

Rip all the nomod/HD players who signed up for the Convert World Cup though (^:
It's surprising how many good Pending/Graveyarded CtB osu!catch beatmaps are there, and from so many different mappers/styles. And people thought CtB was dead! You can expect from year to year that the number of specific beatmaps will increase though.
Thats rather discouraging for me ;w; i never took a liking to where Specifics where pushing the Map-Designs..
everything is either High AR Flow-Snap Hyperchain Maps, or tilted Streams....but welp, nobody can be satisfied ~
Bunnrei
where are the mbomb platters
autofanboy
i am waiting for piano11 for finals tiebreaker
CelegaS
Map scoring is based on a new metric, called Score V2, but unlike in osu! without the accuracy score portion.
Loctav said about scoreV2 in osu!

Loctav wrote:

70% of the 1m is (combo / 10 + 1) * base_hit_values.
30% of the 1m is accuracy ^ 10.
So instead of 70% for combo we have 100% and combo's behaviour are the same as in actual score. So it's actual score scaled to 1million without accuracy.
For exemple we have a map with 200 combo, one player do 100 and 99 combo an other one fc.
What we have:
Actual score:
Player1: 636,060
Player2: 1,242,060
1.95 factor (P2/P1)

ScoreV2
Player1: 538,813
Player2: 1,000,000
1.86 factor

Same idea with 400 combo we have 1.98 factor vs 1.92 so same behaviour.

And since scoreV2 scale has fixed max score it's like bananas get huge bonus factor.
ScoreV1 bananas are more worth than scoreV2 bananas before max point are 3,142,857, after they are less worth.

Finally we can say scoreV2 = scoreV1 with scaled bananas.
Momota
[Nico]

Momota wrote:

hype?
Zak

CelegaS wrote:

Map scoring is based on a new metric, called Score V2, but unlike in osu! without the accuracy score portion.
Loctav said about scoreV2 in osu!

Loctav wrote:

70% of the 1m is (combo / 10 + 1) * base_hit_values.
30% of the 1m is accuracy ^ 10.
So instead of 70% for combo we have 100% and combo's behaviour are the same as in actual score. So it's actual score scaled to 1million without accuracy.
For exemple we have a map with 200 combo, one player do 100 and 99 combo an other one fc.
What we have:
Actual score:
Player1: 636,060
Player2: 1,242,060
1.95 factor (P2/P1)

ScoreV2
Player1: 538,813
Player2: 1,000,000
1.86 factor

Same idea with 400 combo we have 1.98 factor vs 1.92 so same behaviour.

And since scoreV2 scale has fixed max score it's like bananas get huge bonus factor.
ScoreV1 bananas are more worth than scoreV2 bananas before max point are 3,142,857, after they are less worth.

Finally we can say scoreV2 = scoreV1 with scaled bananas.
Wrong. Accuracy can count for up to 10% of your total score, meaning if you miss a lot of droplets and FC you will have trouble beating other FC's unless your spin is way better.
CelegaS

Zak wrote:

Wrong. Accuracy can count for up to 10% of your total score, meaning if you miss a lot of droplets and FC you will have trouble beating other FC's unless your spin is way better.
Staff fix cwc wiki plz
Slainv
Good luck to everyone, and may France win :3

Preparing myself for commentary!
Nitrous
CWC 2016 Hype!
Go Philippines!
Rurree
We always get auto loss, it's disappointing. :cry:
ztrot
I think we are just seeing a few food allergies :U lets hope the rest of the matches go smoothly fruit HYPE
Rurree
Good luck to Finland! Even if my support for my home country is unwavering, being someone who lived in Finland, my support goes out to them too.

Brazil will be tough.
Hirikoshi


Why so many walkovers? This is the most important tournament for all ctb players, its terrible seeing so many wbd's. No comment for this T.T
- Banana -

Hirikoshi wrote:



Why so many walkovers? This is the most important tournament for all ctb players, its terrible seeing so many wbd's. No comment for this T.T
Our best two players pulled out
I love my cat

- Banana - wrote:

Hirikoshi wrote:


Why so many walkovers? This is the most important tournament for all ctb players, its terrible seeing so many wbd's. No comment for this T.T

Our best two players pulled out


I was wondering what happened to ya'll. Sorry to hear that happened :(
The Fire Tiger
So now that Peru is most likely out of this competition, I'd like to share my experience and hope that others looking at this thread in the future will be inspired to try out this tourney for themselves!

...or at least, that's what I would have done, had Peru not lost by default 2 matches. But whatever, I'd like to highlight something else.

See, I'm pretty antisocial and as such, I don't get along with most people as quickly as you guys. This also applies to my own team, and although I have given team captain to AleZer0 once my team was sorted out, he didn't do a good job of organizing the team. It's why we lost the last round by default: they thought the match was tomorrow. xd

Truth be told, I could have warned them had I done so as soon as the others finished their second match, but it never crossed my mind, so now we're stuck here. It seems kinda anticlimatic for me since I was looking to get royally funk-mastered by China but alas, that wasn't possible. That, however, was the least of my problems.

Sorry for having to call you out, but the dispute that followed once everyone left between me, AleZer0 and Loctav can be summarized as such:
-AleZer0 thinks he has control of the schedule (and apparently needs English lessons)
-Team Peru was planning this for a year and apparently I was considered an intrusion since I didn't give a shit about winning
-The staff has their head in the wrong places
-I apparently had no say in anything except for opinions

I'm at a neutral party now. Honestly, everyone and everything went wrong, and now that's irreversible. All I did was come here for the fun, why couldn't it stay that way? Isn't that what the tourney is supposed to be about in the end?

Look, I don't want anyone replying to this since I don't want to ignite yet another war about how much of a circlejerk the staff can be or any of that, but I want to say that the staff should be more flexible with contestants, and vice versa. Sure, it makes sense that just one person can't change the schedule, but I think that if every person in the tourney agrees to have their match postponed, it should be logical that we could move it to a (obvs reasonable) new time. I bet if AleZer0 had bribed talked to China's team captain to go later we would have been fine, had this implication been in place. Same goes for how one treats the staff: You can't just go offending every one of them, but it also doesn't hurt to try and understand their point of view as well.

And now, for those looking into joining a World Cup, some pointers:
* Being a team effort, all people should have a say on any decision the team makes. It's senseless to go around and sticking to a little group of friends, which is exactly what happened to Peru. I'll admit I may be a bit flawed here as I kinda reserved myself, but hey, I kinda expected everyone else to know the match was today.
* Please, please, PLEASE check your schedule for the entire month and the next before you even decide to sign up. Consequently, when you do have the times for your rounds, double-check them to make sure they're correct.
* Don't be startled or frigthened if you're Team Captain. It's literally just a label. Seriously.
* This one's not required, but if possible, have everyone meet at a single place for the tourney. Team Peru had this one right, as I could not attend to their reunions. Hey, at least they went down a team, right?
* For the love of whatever gods you worship, it's just a game. Sure, prize cash is now on the line, but is that really why you sign up? Looking at everything like a life or death competition isn't the best way to live, but apparently it's why I "shouldn't have signed up [for CWC] in the first place". Honestly, if you look here for fame, you're not gonna get it.
* And finally, rememeber that Nervous Breakdowns, both map-wise and personally, are normal. It's just our human reaction towards something as big as this, and with it being streamed to the world, your armpits may start to sweat. Don't worry though! Take deep breaths and have confidence in the maps you know you can pass.

Well, that'll be all for me. I'm hungry, tired and working on a beatmap, so I'll just disappear now.

Until another interesting topic, I guess!

--TFT
Topic Starter
Loctav
You signed up well knowing that we dont reschedule anything. especially not on group stage. You signed up well knowing that Group Stage happens on this weeked, months ahead. If we start taking requests for reschedule, everyone and their mothers want a reschedule and we can not plan anything properly. We went past this already years ago and we won't change our stance on that.
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