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Alheak
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Alheak
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, February 12, 2018 at 2:24:14 AM

Artist: penoreri
Title: Preserved Valkyria
Source: SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS
Tags: konami sdvx 3 kac Song Contest Champion GoldenWolf Ponoyoshi pono Ayyri Realazy real bemani
BPM: 155
Filesize: 3677kb
Play Time: 02:02
Difficulties Available:
  1. ADVANCED (3.01 stars, 273 notes)
  2. AYYLAZY'S NOVICE (2.44 stars, 182 notes)
  3. BASIC (1.62 stars, 115 notes)
  4. EXHAUST (4.67 stars, 427 notes)
  5. HYPER (3.72 stars, 329 notes)
  6. INFINITE (5.64 stars, 548 notes)
  7. PONO'S GRAVITY (6.36 stars, 577 notes)
  8. WOLF'S MAXIMUM (6.94 stars, 678 notes)
Download: penoreri - Preserved Valkyria
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Preserved Valkyria

by ぺのれり


From SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS


Background image by マツモトミツアキ

WOLF'S MAXIMUM: GoldenWolf
PONO'S GRAVITY: PoNo
INFINITE: Alheak
EXHAUST: Alheak
HYPER: Alheak
ADVANCED: Alheak
AYYLAZY'S NOVICE: Realazy and Ayyri
BASIC: Alheak
Last edited by Alheak , edited 83 times in total.
Bearizm
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Bearizm
"better than everlasting message"
Mazzerin
493 posts
Joined July 2013
Mazzerin
nice bg
Alheak
910 posts
Joined November 2013
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Alheak
thx
pkk
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pkk
just popping by

in gravity, 01:55:426 (4) - 01:55:699 (5) - I suggest ctrl+g on both of these individually to get a nicer transition between 5 and 1, but I can see why you placed 4 that way since the antiflow/whatever the term is does well to emphasize the sound

no kds, nice set
Alheak
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Alheak
yeah, i guess (5,1) is a bit weak like that, ctrl+g makes (4,5) a bit weaker but accentuates (1) better, which should be the priority.

changed
Musty
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Joined February 2010
Musty
[infinite]

01:27:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - je comprends pas pourquoi le premier jump est plus intense que tout le reste dans cette partie alors que c'est du "TIN ITNITN ITNITNITN" si tu vois ce que je veux dire (enfin ce qui me gène le plus du coup c'est le fait que 01:27:608 (4,5) - est bien moins spaced



[Poyoshi]

00:14:898 (2) - cette note c'est de l'overmap surtout si tu veux mapper le main piano
00:17:802 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - je trouve que la cassure est vraiment pas agréable à jouer, musicalement y a aucune raison de faire ce jumpstream, c'est comme si tu coupais la phrase. Le problème ici étant surtout niveau gameplay
00:34:157 (2) - l'overlap avec le slider d'avant est super bof mais ça c'est juste question d'aesthetic xD
00:45:770 (1,2,3) - pourquoi ici les drumset hs? je trouve que ça rend pas bien du tout xD
01:02:245 (1,2,3) - je trouve que ces sliders sont là par "flemme" parce que niveau mélodie c'est pas si pauvre que ça et tu l'as bien montré JUSTE avant
01:13:017 - quitte à mapper le piano, mappe le en entier en vrai^^
00:20:608 (1) - pourquoi le NC? parce que le roll de piano est clairement pas terminé
01:22:699 (1,2) - je trouve le choix d'hitsound un peu bof parce que la musique ici c'est genre des notes super isolées, et tu nous fout des drumset :thinking:
01:30:676 (4,6) - c'est de l'overmap aussi ces notes !!! c'est relou de taper des notes qui n'existent pas et ça me fait penser à du Natsu, j'espère que tu comprends en quoi c'est PERTURBANT putain Stéphane...
01:32:517 (1,2,3) - j'aime beaucoup le pattern dans son entièreté, mais j'aurais mis ce triplet un tout petit peu plus spaced que ce qu'il est là, parce que la cassure visuelle est bien plus élevée par rapport à la cassure sonore je trouve
01:33:063 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - perso j'aurais fait une distinction entre le premier 1,2,3 et le deuxième parce que les notes sont bien plus aigues, un truc style un spacing un poil plus élevé je suis sûr que ça se fout très bien vu le mapping que tu as fait globalement, et tu as fait un truc similaire ici (même si c'est pas pour représenter la même chose cependant 01:39:608 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - )
01:36:336 (1,2,1,1,2,1,2) - niveau NC je comprends pas trop et le (1) isolé est trop trop bizaremment placé
01:42:336 (1) - pourquoi le NC??
01:53:790 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - j'aime pas trop le fait que tu fasses répéter le même type de flow à chaque fois alors que la musique répète pas de la même manière à chaque fois c'est plus un cicle de 6 notes qui se répète au lieu d'un cycle de 3 notes, genre j'ai l'impression que c'est ultra "vide" les NC pair


[WOLFS MAXIMUM!!!]

01:03:813 - j'entends une sorte de vague entre les deux notes je sais pas si c'est mieux de le cover ce bruit, ça fait plus de retour je trouve mais après c'est pas nécessaire
01:17:108 - pourquoi tu ne fais pas ressortir ce son ?


la map est insane par contre hiHIHI

je pense que je tenterai de mod les diffs plus faciles plus tard
Alheak
910 posts
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Alheak

Musty wrote:

[infinite]

01:27:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - je comprends pas pourquoi le premier jump est plus intense que tout le reste dans cette partie alors que c'est du "TIN ITNITN ITNITNITN" si tu vois ce que je veux dire (enfin ce qui me gène le plus du coup c'est le fait que 01:27:608 (4,5) - est bien moins spaced changé


la map est insane par contre hiHIHI

je pense que je tenterai de mod les diffs plus faciles plus tard
merci very much moussety
GoldenWolf
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GoldenWolf

Musty wrote:

[WOLFS MAXIMUM!!!]

01:03:813 - j'entends une sorte de vague entre les deux notes je sais pas si c'est mieux de le cover ce bruit, ça fait plus de retour je trouve mais après c'est pas nécessaire Ah nan j'ai bien loupé un 1/4 ici opops xd j'en profite aussi pour le refaire le stream
01:17:108 - pourquoi tu ne fais pas ressortir ce son ? J'me suis demandé la même chose en regardant la map haHAA

Du coup j'ai aussi changé quelques patterns et NC color hax

hiHIHI
Realazy
Elite Mapper
1,004 posts
Joined June 2011
Realazy
ok hi
musty a mod les top diffs donc je fais les low diffs

why is gowo's diff the only one with whistles at the start, they fit so well :\

[NOVICE]

01:58:767 (1) - i don't think you can have a spinner so soon after the previous slider considering this is an easy diff, i think you should give a little more time to react to it

[ADVANCED]

honestly i don't think the spread you have rn is gonna cut it, novice is full of 1/1 and 3/2 rhythms even in the 155bpm part, yet this diff has loads of 1/4 in the 155bpm part and lots of 1/2 or even 1/3 in the 220bpm part, with also some difficult to read patterns e.g. 01:09:745 (3,1) -

AR feels a bit high here, how about 7.5?

00:01:254 (1,1) - this looks really hard considering this is only a 3* map, could be easily misread as 1/2 especially when the latter 1/4 in this section have much lower spacings
00:06:286 (1,2,3) - these are much bigger than all other 1/4 gaps in that section and could easily be misread as 1/2 since the spacing is that high
01:30:881 (6,7,8,9) - this is really cool but also insanely hard for that bpm and such high sv d
01:58:154 - why not map anything here? there are no blanks in novice and advanced

love that diff but idk how it's only 2.99 lmao

[EXHAUST]

and again spread seems really tight here, compare patterns like 00:19:447 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - to advanced which only has 1/2 here, and also the much denser 220bpm parts with 1/3 streams and a few 1/4 bursts

00:07:834 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - je vais m'expliquer en français pour celui là (et encore jvais galérer), je pense que ça serait sympa de faire un pattern progressif, par exemple de partir d'un premier slider vertical et de rotate les suivants un peu plus à chaque fois pour qu'ils deviennent plus horizontaux à chaque fois jusqu'à atteindre 00:09:383 (1) - ou alors de moins courber chaque slider à chaque fois
00:26:318 (8,1) - you could stack those to give these 00:26:415 (1,2,3,4) - more emphasis
00:38:802 (1,2,1) - really large spacing considering these are 1/6 and there are no pauses to jump from one slider to the other, compare it to stuff like 00:40:222 (2,1) -
01:02:245 (5,1) - you could swap NCs to match with 01:01:426 (1,2,3,4) - , same applies to the whole part after the kiai
01:16:699 (1,2,3,4) - 1/1 gaps are spaced here, but it's the opposite here 01:17:381 (4,5,6) -
01:22:017 (6) - i don't really like how the repeat and slidertail cover the drums here yet 01:22:426 (7) - is clickable yet covers the same drums, how about this rhythm

[INFINITE]

00:29:383 (5) - why is the spacing here bigger? this sounds just as intense as 00:28:867 (1,2,3,4) - to me
00:33:480 (1) - uhh pretty sure this spinner is too short, auto doesn't even get 1000 bonus spin here, same for gowo diff i believe?

[POYOSHI'S GRAVITY]
poyoshi?
sérieusement?

01:58:767 (1) - finis le à 02:02:449 - comme les autres diffs, c'est là où le son se termine

je mod pas les pp mapper a+


good chance
Alheak
910 posts
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Topic Starter
Alheak

Realazy wrote:

ok hi
musty a mod les top diffs donc je fais les low diffs

why is gowo's diff the only one with whistles at the start, they fit so well :\

[NOVICE]

01:58:767 (1) - i don't think you can have a spinner so soon after the previous slider considering this is an easy diff, i think you should give a little more time to react to it yes i can, beginning doesn't matter since it doesn't require precise timing

[ADVANCED]

honestly i don't think the spread you have rn is gonna cut it, novice is full of 1/1 and 3/2 rhythms even in the 155bpm part, yet this diff has loads of 1/4 in the 155bpm part and lots of 1/2 or even 1/3 in the 220bpm part, with also some difficult to read patterns e.g. 01:09:745 (3,1) -

AR feels a bit high here, how about 7.5? nah 220bpm part is gonna get too dense

00:01:254 (1,1) - this looks really hard considering this is only a 3* map, could be easily misread as 1/2 especially when the latter 1/4 in this section have much lower spacings the later 1/4s are not as strong, and this should be fine as the bpm is quite low and both beat are downbeats, but i'll see with other mods and feedback
00:06:286 (1,2,3) - these are much bigger than all other 1/4 gaps in that section and could easily be misread as 1/2 since the spacing is that high changed
01:30:881 (6,7,8,9) - this is really cool but also insanely hard for that bpm and such high sv d should be k but idk will see
01:58:154 - why not map anything here? there are no blanks in novice and advanced changed

love that diff but idk how it's only 2.99 lmao

[EXHAUST]

and again spread seems really tight here, compare patterns like 00:19:447 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - to advanced which only has 1/2 here, and also the much denser 220bpm parts with 1/3 streams and a few 1/4 bursts

00:07:834 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - je vais m'expliquer en français pour celui là (et encore jvais galérer), je pense que ça serait sympa de faire un pattern progressif, par exemple de partir d'un premier slider vertical et de rotate les suivants un peu plus à chaque fois pour qu'ils deviennent plus horizontaux à chaque fois jusqu'à atteindre 00:09:383 (1) - ou alors de moins courber chaque slider à chaque fois should be better now
00:26:318 (8,1) - you could stack those to give these 00:26:415 (1,2,3,4) - more emphasis this would be the only stack of the part which would look a bit out of place, and it's simpler to read as well
00:38:802 (1,2,1) - really large spacing considering these are 1/6 and there are no pauses to jump from one slider to the other, compare it to stuff like 00:40:222 (2,1) - changed
01:02:245 (5,1) - you could swap NCs to match with 01:01:426 (1,2,3,4) - , same applies to the whole part after the kiai ok
01:16:699 (1,2,3,4) - 1/1 gaps are spaced here, but it's the opposite here 01:17:381 (4,5,6) - it depends on whether or not the music feels like it moves, basically if both notes are different -> spaced, otherwise stacked
01:22:017 (6) - i don't really like how the repeat and slidertail cover the drums here yet 01:22:426 (7) - is clickable yet covers the same drums, how about this rhythm changed in another way

[INFINITE]

00:29:383 (5) - why is the spacing here bigger? this sounds just as intense as 00:28:867 (1,2,3,4) - to me fixed
00:33:480 (1) - uhh pretty sure this spinner is too short, auto doesn't even get 1000 bonus spin here, same for gowo diff i believe? fixed,
and no gowo did the right thing from the beginning


good chance
ty bb
Last edited by Alheak , edited 2 times in total.
Arrival
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Arrival
poyoshi
Pachiru
osu! Alumni
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Pachiru
[Basic]
- 00:20:222 (1,3) - Pour une Easy, je pense pas que ce soit assez ouf de faire quelque chose comme ça, vu que le sliderend du 1 finit face au cercle du slider 3, et peut-être que le joueur débutant fera pas attention au cercle 2 et cliquera sur le 3. Peut être essayer de reculer un peu plus le slider 1 vu que la fin de ce slider est vraiment trés proche du slider 3.
- 00:23:415 (1) - Y'a une guideline qui dit (il me semble) qu'il faut essayer d'éviter de mettre des spinner trop long, pour le poignet du joueur, vu que les débutants ont pas forcément une stamina de malade, donc peut-être faire quelque chose pour compenser ça, et garder le spinner mais le faire durer moins longtemps. Je pense que la façon dont tu le termines est trés bien, mais pourquoi l'avoir commencé ici? Peut-être que mapper un peu la partie ou tu as mis le spinner et pourquoi pas mettre le spinner ensuite, je pense que ce serait une meilleure idée.
- 00:33:383 (2) - Le reverse ici, je pense pas qu'il soit nécessaire, c'est en rien quelque chose de mauvais bien sur, mais disons que la fin du reverse, elle se termine un peu sur du "vide" pour une Easy diff, dans laquelle on essaie de se focus sur les sons les plus importants. Je pense qu'un simple aller fait l'affaire.
Par exemple, tu l'as fais ici: 00:39:576 (1) - et la je trouve que ça passe mieux, parce que sur la fin du reverse, t'as un super gros son, qui marque vraiment une potentielle fin de reverse.
- 01:23:245 (1,3) - La pareil qu'avant, je pense que ce serait mieux de moins espacer les deux sliders, et de mieux les étendre pour que le joueur puisse vraiment voir que le cercle est avant le slider.

[Novice]
- 00:05:318 (2,3) - The stack here is not a good idea, since the player can't really know if it's 1/1,1/2 or 1/4 and he might click maybe to faster, I suggest you to remove this, especially for a Novice diff, try to make something without this stack.
- 00:06:092 (4,5,1) - Making this pattern can induce player to being disoriented. Especially cause there is the same spacing for three different objects. That could be very hard for a new player to read this perfectly, since you're using a different spacing each time. Try to keep a consistent spacing at least for this kind of diff, or you can use a stack like this if there is enough gap between the both notes. (For instance this one: 00:13:254 (4) - )
- 00:23:512 (1) - As I said in the Basic diff, the spinner here is too long, and the player that usually play this type of diff doesn't have a great stamina, and a long spinner like this can exhaust his wrist, so try to do something, like I said in the other diff. Keeping the spinner while mapping a bit the part before it, so it wouldn't make it so long and exhausting.
- 01:40:699 (1,2) - Try to make this flow less brutal, because it induce the player to make a weird move, that go in two different direction on a short gap. And since the sliders are fast, he can be disoriented and fail pretty bad just for this. Try to make this curvy to see if it can work.

Hope it will help !
Very nice diffs tho :)
I really like the Advanced and the Novice :)
Alheak
910 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Alheak

Pachiru wrote:

[Basic]
- 00:20:222 (1,3) - Pour une Easy, je pense pas que ce soit assez ouf de faire quelque chose comme ça, vu que le sliderend du 1 finit face au cercle du slider 3, et peut-être que le joueur débutant fera pas attention au cercle 2 et cliquera sur le 3. Peut être essayer de reculer un peu plus le slider 1 vu que la fin de ce slider est vraiment trés proche du slider 3. changé
- 00:23:415 (1) - Y'a une guideline qui dit (il me semble) qu'il faut essayer d'éviter de mettre des spinner trop long, pour le poignet du joueur, vu que les débutants ont pas forcément une stamina de malade, donc peut-être faire quelque chose pour compenser ça, et garder le spinner mais le faire durer moins longtemps. Je pense que la façon dont tu le termines est trés bien, mais pourquoi l'avoir commencé ici? Peut-être que mapper un peu la partie ou tu as mis le spinner et pourquoi pas mettre le spinner ensuite, je pense que ce serait une meilleure idée. le rythme est beaucoup trop complexe à mapper pour un easy je pense, et faire une transition douteuse au spinner au milieu de cette partie ne me plaît pas trop. pour la stamina c'est pas faux mais ce n'est pas nécessaire d'aller à fond sur le spinner pour réussir la map, et il a pas mal de pause après pour se reposer et repartir en pleine forme (j'ai fait de la muscu je sais de quoi je parle! ) mais bon à voir si les gens se plaignent trop
- 00:33:383 (2) - Le reverse ici, je pense pas qu'il soit nécessaire, c'est en rien quelque chose de mauvais bien sur, mais disons que la fin du reverse, elle se termine un peu sur du "vide" pour une Easy diff, dans laquelle on essaie de se focus sur les sons les plus importants. Je pense qu'un simple aller fait l'affaire.
Par exemple, tu l'as fais ici: 00:39:576 (1) - et la je trouve que ça passe mieux, parce que sur la fin du reverse, t'as un super gros son, qui marque vraiment une potentielle fin de reverse.le reverse est ici surtout pour la règle spacing/temps et pour aider le joueur à rester en rythme pour jouer comme il faut le prochain cercle qui est un peu tout seul et difficile à timer correctrement sinon
- 01:23:245 (1,3) - La pareil qu'avant, je pense que ce serait mieux de moins espacer les deux sliders, et de mieux les étendre pour que le joueur puisse vraiment voir que le cercle est avant le slider. changé

Hope it will help !
Very nice diffs tho :)
I really like the Advanced and the Novice :)
Merci bien!
Realazy
Elite Mapper
1,004 posts
Joined June 2011
Realazy

Pachiru wrote:

[Novice]
- 00:05:318 (2,3) - The stack here is not a good idea, since the player can't really know if it's 1/1,1/2 or 1/4 and he might click maybe to faster, I suggest you to remove this, especially for a Novice diff, try to make something without this stack. explained below, i think the stack really fits because the song doesn't imply movement here and it's also the first stack i used in the map, there's no 1/4 and 1/2s are spaced
- 00:06:092 (4,5,1) - Making this pattern can induce player to being disoriented. Especially cause there is the same spacing for three different objects. That could be very hard for a new player to read this perfectly, since you're using a different spacing each time. Try to keep a consistent spacing at least for this kind of diff, or you can use a stack like this if there is enough gap between the both notes. (For instance this one: 00:13:254 (4) - ) think of it as manual stacking, i think it looks a bit silly to have them stacked automatically and would do weird stuff, besides these are the only times i use stacking for 1/1 as the song doesn't really imply such movement compared to 00:07:834 (1,2,3) -
- 00:23:512 (1) - As I said in the Basic diff, the spinner here is too long, and the player that usually play this type of diff doesn't have a great stamina, and a long spinner like this can exhaust his wrist, so try to do something, like I said in the other diff. Keeping the spinner while mapping a bit the part before it, so it wouldn't make it so long and exhausting. same as alheak, i think it's fine due to the massive recovery time, but if it gets brought up again i'll change it
- 01:40:699 (1,2) - Try to make this flow less brutal, because it induce the player to make a weird move, that go in two different direction on a short gap. And since the sliders are fast, he can be disoriented and fail pretty bad just for this. Try to make this curvy to see if it can work. fixed it for ayyri

Hope it will help !
Very nice diffs tho :)
I really like the Advanced and the Novice :)
merci mon amour
lazygirl
506 posts
Joined February 2016
lazygirl
00:15:576 (5,6,7) - Ahoy bruh. Here for sort of a long term m4m I guess :P

[General stuff]
  1. Bg dimension is good
  2. Mp3 is good quality
  3. The hitsound seems fine
  4. consider lowering volume on the fast repeats in general, it destroys the ears a bit x)
[BASIC]

  1. Not much to say tbh, maybe blanket a few things a bit nicer, like 00:09:383 (3,4) - or add blankets on sliders where it makes sense like here 00:52:154 (3,1) - . But I don't want to nazi mod so I'll stop here lol.
[AYYREAL'S NOVICE]

  1. 00:05:318 (2,3) - not sure stuff like this is a good idea on a 2* map. Compare the 1/1 spacings here 00:06:092 (4,5,1,2,3) - it makes it pretty hard to read for a beginner player on osu, so consider updating that.
  2. 00:15:576 (5,6,7) - consider moving 7 to form a perfect triangle
  3. 00:21:770 (3,4) - looks nicer like this
  4. 01:53:790 (2,3,4) - please make these parallel this hurts my eyes
  5. Also generally SV is really high on this diff for a 2*+
[ADVANCED]

  1. 00:02:415 (2,1,2,3) - again spacing here is a bit hard to read for the difficulty of the map
  2. Consider maybe rechecking some blankets here as well like 00:24:576 (5,2) - this but minor stuff I guess
[EXHAUST]

  1. 00:26:318 (8) - on most streams before that started before a white tick the first note was placed in contrast to the rest of the stream, like 00:12:770 (2) - or 00:17:802 (4) - maybe do the same here
  2. 01:05:108 (3,4,5,6) - this is hard to read, but I guess the pattern is justified. Mostly feels hard since it's the first 1/3 stream in the map and it comes with no warning at all. Consider replacing with a kickslider for the leniency. The same reading issue happens on the 1/3's in the kiai. I don't know if this is really a good idea, but it might also work if you actually put 1/3 streams in the intro wherever it fits, kind of as a forewarning for the player to know that the map will not be full 1/2 and 1/4.
[INFINITE]

  1. 00:05:028 (2) - maybe a kickslider? because the white tick isn't silent, but it definitely is weaker than the other surrounding notes
  2. 00:38:802 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - 227,5 bpm stream damn. Seems a bit harsh for how sudden it is, consider replacing the first 6 notes by 2 repeat sliders maybe
[PONO'S GRAVITY]

  1. You may wanna update PoNo's name in the description c:
  2. 00:04:931 (1,2,3,4) - not the most fitting
  3. 00:06:963 (7,1) - this could definitely have a small jump added to it
  4. 01:13:017 - 01:13:290 - you should map those with like a tiny spacing and low hitsound volume, I don't find it fitting to just have nothing there.
  5. 01:27:199 (1,2,3) - this feels unfitting and unecessary tbh. A simple jump would do the job here. If you do want to keep it, then you should at least mute the sliderends.
  6. 01:49:358 (8,1) - this is a bit of a big diffspike imo, should tone it down somewhat or use streamjumps on more of the previous 220 bpm streams
[WOLF'S MAXIMUM]

  1. 00:05:028 (2) - maybe a kickslider like I suggested for INFINITE?
  2. 00:56:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - progressive spacing would be pretty cool here
  3. 01:13:017 - maybe add a note here? The piano's weak but still there
Great set! Overall the 1/3's really aren't distinguishable except in the final diff, so maybe add some unique combo colors for the 1/3's? And specify in description I guess:P Good luck!
nextplay
976 posts
Joined December 2015
nextplay
Hi. I want to try something new hope it's okay :d

[BASIC]

00:05:318 (2,3) - I'm not a big fan of this sharp angle from 2 to 3 since 3 has not a really strong Sound.
00:15:576 (1,2,1) - why that nc spam?
00:35:802 (1) - I'm not sure but having 3 White ticks would be easier I think
00:48:336 (1,2) - I would do it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8767288 because 1. a pattern like this is only 1 time in the map 2. It might be hard to read for noobs
01:40:699 (1,2,3) - This is one pattern (xd) I don't really understand why 1 has a anti-flow to 2
01:42:336 (3) - make this curved since 01:44:517 (3) - 01:46:699 (3) - are curved have the same rhythm
gud diff owo


NOVICE Looks good but one Thing bothers me

01:26:245 (1,2) - I would introduce 1/2 stacks earlier kinda unexpected imo
Alheak
910 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Alheak

lazyboy007 wrote:

00:15:576 (5,6,7) - Ahoy bruh. Here for sort of a long term m4m I guess :P

[General stuff]
  1. Bg dimension is good
  2. Mp3 is good quality
  3. The hitsound seems fine
  4. consider lowering volume on the fast repeats in general, it destroys the ears a bit x) that's both quite specific but vague somehow, not gonna change anything now but if people keep pointing it out i'll reduce the volume a bit
[BASIC]

  1. Not much to say tbh, maybe blanket a few things a bit nicer, like 00:09:383 (3,4) - or add blankets on sliders where it makes sense like here 00:52:154 (3,1) - . But I don't want to nazi mod so I'll stop here lol. cleaned up everything a bit
[ADVANCED]

  1. 00:02:415 (2,1,2,3) - again spacing here is a bit hard to read for the difficulty of the map changed
  2. Consider maybe rechecking some blankets here as well like 00:24:576 (5,2) - this but minor stuff I guess ya cleaned up
[EXHAUST]

  1. 00:26:318 (8) - on most streams before that started before a white tick the first note was placed in contrast to the rest of the stream, like 00:12:770 (2) - or 00:17:802 (4) - maybe do the same here yes
  2. 01:05:108 (3,4,5,6) - this is hard to read, but I guess the pattern is justified. Mostly feels hard since it's the first 1/3 stream in the map and it comes with no warning at all. Consider replacing with a kickslider for the leniency. The same reading issue happens on the 1/3's in the kiai. I don't know if this is really a good idea, but it might also work if you actually put 1/3 streams in the intro wherever it fits, kind of as a forewarning for the player to know that the map will not be full 1/2 and 1/4. this diff has been made easy to play even for people that can't play high bpm maps, so here the 1/3s play like normal streams so the player can play them more naturally, like they would on a ~175bpm map, if that makes sense. they don't really have to read it's 1/3, they just have to play a stream without mashing
[INFINITE]

  1. 00:05:028 (2) - maybe a kickslider? because the white tick isn't silent, but it definitely is weaker than the other surrounding notes not worth it and will make the pattern look like ass
  2. 00:38:802 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - 227,5 bpm stream damn. Seems a bit harsh for how sudden it is, consider replacing the first 6 notes by 2 repeat sliders maybe no more mr good guy, plus it's not really that harsh considering the rest of the map is full of 1/4 streams at 220bpm
Great set! Overall the 1/3's really aren't distinguishable except in the final diff, so maybe add some unique combo colors for the 1/3's? And specify in description I guess:P Good luck!
The 1/3s are part of what makes this song fun to map and play, and I believe we made a good job of making them as intuitive to play as possible.
I will keep looking for more feedback tho, thank you for the mod!

My Angel Kanan wrote:

Hi. I want to try something new hope it's okay :d hello!

[BASIC]

00:05:318 (2,3) - I'm not a big fan of this sharp angle from 2 to 3 since 3 has not a really strong Sound. this is for showing the start of the piano's crescendo
00:15:576 (1,2,1) - why that nc spam? removed NC
00:35:802 (1) - I'm not sure but having 3 White ticks would be easier I think yes but then it wouldn't fit the song, the bpm is still relatively low here so this should be fine
00:48:336 (1,2) - I would do it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8767288 because 1. a pattern like this is only 1 time in the map 2. It might be hard to read for noobs that's considerable, but it should be fine since you have a lot of time to see the start of (1), then the player just has to play (2). will see if people keep pointing this out
01:40:699 (1,2,3) - This is one pattern (xd) I don't really understand why 1 has a anti-flow to 2 that's just for aesthetics i guess, it doesn't really affect the gameplay
01:42:336 (3) - make this curved since 01:44:517 (3) - 01:46:699 (3) - are curved have the same rhythm yes
gud diff owo
thank you! :3
GoldenWolf
2,983 posts
Joined May 2012
GoldenWolf

lazyboy007 wrote:

[WOLF'S MAXIMUM]

  1. 00:05:028 (2) - maybe a kickslider like I suggested for INFINITE? No because it isn't the same instrument, I am only mapping the piano for the intro bit
  2. 00:56:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - progressive spacing would be pretty cool here Hmm yeah, sounds good to me
  3. 01:13:017 - maybe add a note here? The piano's weak but still there Too weak, it's not even close to other notes
Great set! Overall the 1/3's really aren't distinguishable except in the final diff, so maybe add some unique combo colors for the 1/3's? And specify in description I guess:P Good luck!
mercy lazi

.osu
Realazy
Elite Mapper
1,004 posts
Joined June 2011
Realazy

lazyboy007 wrote:

[AYYREAL'S NOVICE]

  1. 00:05:318 (2,3) - not sure stuff like this is a good idea on a 2* map. Compare the 1/1 spacings here 00:06:092 (4,5,1,2,3) - it makes it pretty hard to read for a beginner player on osu, so consider updating that. please read my answer to pachiru's mod, i really want to keep those manual stacks here because it wouldn't make sense to have movement in that part, plus there are no stacks in that section other than 00:12:480 (3,4) - which is 2/1 so there's already plenty of time to react to it. also the map is 2.43*, you clearly can't expect beginners to play this anyway
  2. 00:15:576 (5,6,7) - consider moving 7 to form a perfect triangle ok
  3. 00:21:770 (3,4) - looks nicer like this done
  4. 01:53:790 (2,3,4) - please make these parallel this hurts my eyes fixed for ayyri since this is minor
  5. Also generally SV is really high on this diff for a 2*+ it does fit the spread though: 0.8 -> 1.28 -> 1.7
d
lazygirl
506 posts
Joined February 2016
lazygirl

GoldenWolf wrote:

mercy lazi
lazi... TRIGGERED :^)

Considering my first point in ayyri and real's diff, I do think it's important to change that still, because even though I can clearly see why you did it, it doesn't really work for a Normal diff. Following the guidelines "Time-distance equality should be used." So eh, at least if more people mention it please do consider changing that :P
TaliNation
62 posts
Joined July 2012
TaliNation
AVANCED

- 00:03:770 (2) - NC for readability

- 00:23:802 (2,3,4) - In general slider ends translate a sound less strong than slider heads. Here you have to put all the sounds at the same level to translate the song. I suggest you to put strong hitsounds in the slider head and slider end of 2 and 3 and in 4

- 00:25:351 (2,3,4) - ^

- 00:26:899 (2,3,4) - ^
EXHAUST

- 00:09:383 (1) - I don't think this NC is needed, this part is repetitive and this aspect is better translated without this NC

- 01:08:926 (1) - Maybe a NC to emphasize the sound like you did here 01:07:972 (1) -

- 01:24:063 (3) - This circle seem out of the place, It do not translate the song like this one 01:26:245 (3) - does. I suggest something like this

- 01:30:063 (2) - NC ?
Great map, good luck for rank :D
Alheak
910 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Alheak

TaliNation wrote:

AVANCED

- 00:03:770 (2) - NC for readability i don't think it's necessary, and it would mess with the NCing in this section, leaving 00:03:383 (1) - alone

- 00:23:802 (2,3,4) - In general slider ends translate a sound less strong than slider heads. Here you have to put all the sounds at the same level to translate the song. I suggest you to put strong hitsounds in the slider head and slider end of 2 and 3 and in 4 the sounds are of the same intensity, besides, this is mapped like this for better playability and a cleaner structure since it prevents to many unnecessary overlaps

- 00:25:351 (2,3,4) - ^

- 00:26:899 (2,3,4) - ^
EXHAUST

- 00:09:383 (1) - I don't think this NC is needed, this part is repetitive and this aspect is better translated without this NC changed

- 01:08:926 (1) - Maybe a NC to emphasize the sound like you did here 01:07:972 (1) - nah this NC was placed here simply because NCs are placed once every two measures here, but even then, it'd make this part unnecessarily spammed with NCs if i went with intensity, which is too subjective to properly NC anyway

- 01:24:063 (3) - This circle seem out of the place, It do not translate the song like this one 01:26:245 (3) - does. I suggest something like this this circle is here because while i'm mapping principally the lead intruments, i still want to keep this part rhymical and dynamic, so it helps me map both the note and the beat at 01:24:199 -

- 01:30:063 (2) - NC ? not needed i think, the stack should be enough to emphasize the stop, and it'd mess with the NCing by leaving one lone NCd circle
Great map, good luck for rank :D
thank you for your help!
Mir
osu! Alumni
2,152 posts
Joined July 2016
Mir
hi there
[WOLF'S MAXIMUM]
(why are we screaming)

- 01:27:608 - The finish usage is kinda bleh here imo, could emphasize every white tick instead? It sounds kind of weird considering there's no finishes in the song here and adding them in these places combining red and white ticks is aaa
- 01:41:517 - 01:47:245 - The circle-spam in this part gives across a high intensity part that requires a lot of aim and speed but right after this part you have 01:49:426 - 01:58:767 - where a lot more sliders are used despite the intensity of the music going up. Using rhythm like 01:40:699 (1,2,1,2) - every downbeat or something would be one way to make it less dense to contrast more with the more musically intense part later.
[PONO's GRAVITY]
- 00:09:963 (1,2,1) - Why stack this one when it's similar to 00:09:576 (1,2,3) - and the rest?
- 00:58:154 (2,3) - This is kind of a weird change in movement that isn't done elsewhere. o:
- 01:12:472 - Not sure why you decided to skip this piano if you're following it?
- 01:29:245 (1,2,3) - Visual spacing is kinda meh here.
- 01:33:608 (1,2,3) - Piano spikes quite noticeably but patterning is the same as the lower piano for 01:33:063 (1,2,3) - :(
- 01:36:336 (1,2,1) - There's like so little movement here for such strong sounds..
[INFINITE]
Again why is 01:40:699 - more circle-heavy than 01:49:426 - ? The latter part is way more intense though isn't it?
[EXHAUST]
- 00:28:738 (4,5) - These could use some SV to stand out a bit more imo.
- 00:50:245 (10,3,4) - Overlap is kinda inconsistent with how you designed the rest of this part. Maybe stack somehow?

Same thing with INFINITE.. the last part is mapped less intensely than the former part (same one I linked) and feels weird.
[ADVANCED]
- 00:01:254 (1,1) - Could at least center the overlap? xd
[AYYY LMAO's NOVICE]
- 00:14:028 (1,2,4,5) - Could make a star pattern out of this?
- 01:49:426 (2) - NC for section change?
- 01:58:154 - 1/3? http://i.imgur.com/KppPeLe.png
[BASIC]
- 00:35:802 (1,1) - Ideally 4 beats of recovery time is good. Possible to do this?
- 01:29:245 (4) - Could do circles for the higher lead tones?

[]
Good luck!
Alheak
910 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Alheak

Mir wrote:

hi there hello
[INFINITE]
Again why is 01:40:699 - more circle-heavy than 01:49:426 - ? The latter part is way more intense though isn't it? well intensity alone isn't a reason for increasing density, the parts are different and not every note felt like they could be a circle
[EXHAUST]
- 00:28:738 (4,5) - These could use some SV to stand out a bit more imo. this isn't wrong but i feel like it'd be a bit confusing to read, and not that necessary
changed the pattern a bit for something a bit more fitting i believe
- 00:50:245 (10,3,4) - Overlap is kinda inconsistent with how you designed the rest of this part. Maybe stack somehow? fixed

Same thing with INFINITE.. the last part is mapped less intensely than the former part (same one I linked) and feels weird.
[ADVANCED]
- 00:01:254 (1,1) - Could at least center the overlap? xd changed

[BASIC]
- 00:35:802 (1,1) - Ideally 4 beats of recovery time is good. Possible to do this? this doesn't fix the problem, there are still 3 beats xd, and i believe the bpm is low enough to make this fine to play
- 01:29:245 (4) - Could do circles for the higher lead tones? but it'd ruin the cool structure here : (

[]
Good luck!
Thank you!
PoNo
504 posts
Joined July 2014
PoNo
Fixed everything from Mir mod (after my rework) thank you !

Fiiix
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GoldenWolf
2,983 posts
Joined May 2012
GoldenWolf

Mir wrote:

hi there HELLO THERE
[WOLF'S MAXIMUM]
(why are we screaming) WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? I CAN'T HEAR IT SORRY

- 01:27:608 - The finish usage is kinda bleh here imo, could emphasize every white tick instead? It sounds kind of weird considering there's no finishes in the song here and adding them in these places combining red and white ticks is aaa I used them to emphasize the jumps more, I actually like how it sounds, gives me a feeling of powerful blasting notes, idk maybe it's more of a metal thing dunno ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- 01:41:517 - 01:47:245 - The circle-spam in this part gives across a high intensity part that requires a lot of aim and speed but right after this part you have 01:49:426 - 01:58:767 - where a lot more sliders are used despite the intensity of the music going up. Using rhythm like 01:40:699 (1,2,1,2) - every downbeat or something would be one way to make it less dense to contrast more with the more musically intense part later. It's more intense on the tapping hand for sure, but I like emphasizing the way notes feel more, as in circles fit better for the mostly piano part, and afterward sliders fit better for the synth violin, but since it does decrease the tapping intensity, I compensated with a higher SV and spacing, so there are larger movements involved in the second part. I also 01:47:245 (1,1,1) - used some 1/2 sliders anyway to not make this part too intense, as it is more spaced than the first instence

Went ahead and fixed a few inconsistencies I found while rechecking it though
THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOD~
Realazy
Elite Mapper
1,004 posts
Joined June 2011
Realazy

Mir wrote:

[AYYY LMAO's NOVICE]
- 00:14:028 (1,2,4,5) - Could make a star pattern out of this? i don't see how..?
- 01:49:426 (2) - NC for section change? yes
- 01:58:154 - 1/3? http://i.imgur.com/KppPeLe.png yes
Kurai
osu! Alumni
7,734 posts
Joined March 2009
Kurai
Bon je vais pas m'attarder sur les détails car y'a un peu trop de difficultés, je vais juste mentionner les trucs que je trouve importants.

[WOLF'S VALKYRIA]
  1. Ce n'est pas du Demetori :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll:
  2. 00:16:931 (3) - Je pense qu'il faudrait un whistle sur ce cercle vu l'intensité me semble la même que sur les notes jouées sur 00:17:028 (4,5,6,7) - .
  3. 00:23:996 (6,7,8,9) - Ces stacks me paraissent assez compliquées à lire. Pour simplifier la chose, soit je ne le stackerais pas sur (5) (car sur la fin d'un stream qui se termine sur un tick bleu c'est pas forcément évident) ou alors je ferais un truc comme sur le screenshot pour que ce soit plus visible. Malheureusement, ça casse un peu le visuel que tu voulais donner :/ (bien sur, si tu appliques la deuxième solution, il faudrait faire pareil sur les stacks de doublets qui suivent).
    SPOILER
    http://up.kuraip.net/0823z7n277a2585.png
  4. 00:28:641 (2,1,2,3,4,5) - J'aime bien ce pattern, cependant j'ai un problème avec la transition entre 00:28:641 (2) - et le pentagone régulier convexe. En effet le pentagone est mappé sur le piano et les finishs sont là pour accentuer ces notes. cependant tu as aussi un finish sur 00:28:738 - alors qu'il n'y a pas de note de piano (même si tu en avais sur des battements similaires comme pour 00:27:963 (1) - ). Le problème c'est que ça casse un peu la transition entre les deux patterns et ça diminue l'effet d'accentuation des finishs sur le pentagone. TL;DR, enlève le finish sur 00:28:738 - !
  5. 00:32:609 (1,2,1) - Tu devrais espacer ces notes un peu plus. Les rythme ici est un peu spécial et c'est pas évident de voir qu'il y a deux cercles. Le bleu foncé l'emporte aussi visuellement comparé au bleu clair qui se font avec le slider, il est facile de ne pas voir ce dernier car on est un peu trop concentrer sur le bleu foncé et qu'on ne s'attend pas vraiment à du 1/8. Espacer permettrait de faciliter la lecture.
  6. 01:18:882 (1) - Je trouve que cette note mérite d'être mis en avant avec un petit whistle.
  7. 01:28:699 (9) - D'une certaine manière je trouve que ce cercle est de trop. Visuellement il ne se fond pas bien avec ton étoile et sa présence ignore la pause de l'instrument principal ce qui a pour conséquence de désaccentuer et de porter moins d'importance à 01:28:836 (9,10) -
[PONO'S GRAVITY]
  1. Le seul whistle que j'ai entendu dans cette difficulté se trouve à 01:14:926 - . Ça en manque cruellement, surtout dans les parties piano. je te conseil de voir ce que GW a fait avec ça diff et d'en rajouter, ou même juste lui demander si tu peux pas lui piquer ses HS.
  2. 00:05:899 (1,2) - Ces deux notes sont beaucoup trop prochent l'une de l'autre. Même si c'est pour le côté esthétique du stack (je présume), c'est pas hyper confortable à jouer quand t'as eu des objets un peu espacés comme 00:03:963 (2,3) - juste avant. Essaye plutôt quelque chose comme sur le screenshot ci-dessous :
    SPOILER
  3. 00:10:060 (5,1) - Pourquoi un stack ici alors que tu n'en as pas sur les patterns précédents ? C'est un peu déroutant.
  4. 00:15:576 (1,2,3) - Pourquoi ces notes vont vers le haut alors que le piano va vers l'octave plus bas ? Le pattern aurait plus d'impact si il suivait visuellement les changement d'intensité musicale surtout quand tu as 00:17:125 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - qui représente parfaitement ces changements.
  5. 00:19:447 (1,2,1,2) - Si on suit encore cette logique, ces sliders devraient plus pointer vers le heut de l'écran plutôt que vers le bas.
  6. 00:26:415 (1) - Je trouve que tu ne mets pas assez d'accentuation sur cette note (et sur 00:27:963 (1) - aussi) alors qu'il y en a sur 00:28:866 (1) - .
  7. 00:33:383 (1) - C'est pas pour faire le chiant, mais le blanket pourrait être mieux réaliser.
  8. 01:40:154 (1,2,3) - Ce changement brutal de sens n'est pas vraiment désirable, surtout en plein milieu d'une suite de sliders en 1/6 comme ça. Musicalement ce changement de sens ne représente rien, mais en plus il est pas intuitif et c'est un mouvement pas très évident à réaliser
  9. 01:58:767 (1) - Tu devrais faire comme tout le monde dans ce set et terminer ce spinner à 02:02:449 - .
[INFINITE]
  1. Même commentaire que pour la difficulté de Pono vis à vis du manque de whistle. (et ça vaut donc aussi pour toutes les autres difficultés).
  2. 01:58:665 - J'entends pas vraiment de percussion ici. Je pense que ce cercle est un peu de trop.
[BASIC]
  1. 00:04:931 (1) - Vraiment légèrement offscreen. Remonte un peu ce cercle, ça t'évitera une pop ou une DQ inutile !
Bref, le reste me semble plutôt pas mal. Il faudra que je recheck car j'ai tendance à passer outre certaines choses quand je suis fatigué, mais si tu ajoutes les whistles dans toutes les difficultés, il y a moyen que je bubble !

Pense-bête pour que j'aille demander des testplays sur les deux dernières difficultés.
GoldenWolf
2,983 posts
Joined May 2012
GoldenWolf

Kurai wrote:

Bon je vais pas m'attarder sur les détails car y'a un peu trop de difficultés, je vais juste mentionner les trucs que je trouve importants.

[WOLF'S VALKYRIA]
  1. Ce n'est pas du Demetori :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: ZOMFGWTFBBQ????
  2. 00:16:931 (3) - Je pense qu'il faudrait un whistle sur ce cercle vu l'intensité me semble la même que sur les notes jouées sur 00:17:028 (4,5,6,7) - . okay
  3. 00:23:996 (6,7,8,9) - Ces stacks me paraissent assez compliqués à lire. Pour simplifier la chose, soit je ne le stackerais pas sur (5) (car sur la fin d'un stream qui se termine sur un tick bleu c'est pas forcément évident) ou alors je ferais un truc comme sur le screenshot pour que ce soit plus visible. Malheureusement, ça casse un peu le visuel que tu voulais donner :/ (bien sur, si tu appliques la deuxième solution, il faudrait faire pareil sur les stacks de doublets qui suivent). La difficulté est censé venir de la lecture, plus que des autres points (aim ou tapping), c'est justement parce que le rythme joue beaucoup sur les ticks bleus que j'ai choisi de map avec des stacks parfait, si ç'avait été un rythme plus commun j'aurais probablement choisi une manière de map plus axé sur la difficulté à aim/tap qu'à lire, mon but ici est de mettre en valeur le rythme en ticks bleu par la difficulté à lire
    SPOILER
    http://up.kuraip.net/0823z7n277a2585.png
  4. 00:28:641 (2,1,2,3,4,5) - J'aime bien ce pattern, cependant j'ai un problème avec la transition entre 00:28:641 (2) - et le pentagone régulier convexe. En effet le pentagone est mappé sur le piano et les finishs sont là pour accentuer ces notes. cependant tu as aussi un finish sur 00:28:738 - alors qu'il n'y a pas de note de piano (même si tu en avais sur des battements similaires comme pour 00:27:963 (1) - ). Le problème c'est que ça casse un peu la transition entre les deux patterns et ça diminue l'effet d'accentuation des finishs sur le pentagone. TL;DR, enlève le finish sur 00:28:738 - ! Blâme alheak, j'avais déjà enlevé ce finish mais il a mess up l'upload de la diff :^)
  5. 00:32:609 (1,2,1) - Tu devrais espacer ces notes un peu plus. Les rythme ici est un peu spécial et c'est pas évident de voir qu'il y a deux cercles. Le bleu foncé l'emporte aussi visuellement comparé au bleu clair qui se font avec le slider, il est facile de ne pas voir ce dernier car on est un peu trop concentrer sur le bleu foncé et qu'on ne s'attend pas vraiment à du 1/8. Espacer permettrait de faciliter la lecture. Pranked, c'est un doublé en 1/6 normalement ici, pas un triplé en 1/8 :^)
  6. 01:18:882 (1) - Je trouve que cette note mérite d'être mis en avant avec un petit whistle. en effet
  7. 01:28:699 (9) - D'une certaine manière je trouve que ce cercle est de trop. Visuellement il ne se fond pas bien avec ton étoile et sa présence ignore la pause de l'instrument principal ce qui a pour conséquence de désaccentuer et de porter moins d'importance à 01:28:836 (9,10) - Hmmmouais, ça du sens,
    et en plus ça diminue le strain du jump ici, ce qui n'est pas non plus une mauvaise chose, j'vais donc essayer ça
wsh cimer frer
Alheak
910 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Alheak

Kurai wrote:

Bon je vais pas m'attarder sur les détails car y'a un peu trop de difficultés, je vais juste mentionner les trucs que je trouve importants.

[INFINITE]
  1. Même commentaire que pour la difficulté de Pono vis à vis du manque de whistle. (et ça vaut donc aussi pour toutes les autres difficultés). ok jvais voir sque jpeux faire
  2. 01:58:665 - J'entends pas vraiment de percussion ici. Je pense que ce cercle est un peu de trop. nan il y a bien un triple en 1/8 ici
[BASIC]
  1. 00:04:931 (1) - Vraiment légèrement offscreen. Remonte un peu ce cercle, ça t'évitera une pop ou une DQ inutile ! fixed
Bref, le reste me semble plutôt pas mal. Il faudra que je recheck car j'ai tendance à passer outre certaines choses quand je suis fatigué, mais si tu ajoutes les whistles dans toutes les difficultés, il y a moyen que je bubble !

Pense-bête pour que j'aille demander des testplays sur les deux dernières difficultés.
voilà de beaux whistles partout
Lasse
osu! Alumni
3,644 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/654160

hitsounding (for diffs that use the one from infinite or similar)
01:39:063 - would sound nice with a whistle
intro sounds pretty empty, could use some whistles similar to what was done on top diff
01:05:790 - similar for this part
01:22:699 - diffs have drum hitnormals here which sounds pretty weird
also volume settings are a bit weird, like this part being 80% which seems way too loud
map could also use more whistles overall I think

wolf
00:05:705 (1) - considered mapping this a sliderend? it's so much weaker than all the other clicks here
00:20:222 - how about making this orange instead or some other color not used for the intro? would be cute on the 1/6 imo
just like you did on 00:38:802 (1) -
01:01:154 (3,4) - the high pitch is starting from here already, so why not start the jumps here too?
01:03:608 - would also make sense to nc this similar to the three not patterns before
01:16:972 (7,1,2) - triggered http://i.imgur.com/t5m7eEr.jpg
01:37:086 - sounds like it would make more sense to start the stream from here for the piano, so maybe http://i.imgur.com/yCBHmEl.jpg ? also don't get why the stream is mapped so differently from 01:38:108 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - when both seem to follow something so similar
01:38:790 - soft whistle would be nice on this
01:58:699 - soft finish would sound better


pono
forgot colorhax
00:04:544 (3,1,2,3,4,1) - 1/4 gap is so sudden here and seems pretty overdone to introduce this, would be nice with way lower spacing on 00:04:544 (3,1) -
00:07:834 (1,2,3) - rhythm is lol, white ticks on 00:07:835 (1,3) - stand out so much in the song, 2 takes away a lot from that and making 00:08:415 - clickable also seems weird. doing something like http://i.imgur.com/Mi01bxG.jpg seems much more reasonable, same for following triples
00:15:382 (3) - stand out way more than 00:15:576 - piano wise, so your current 1/4 jump pattern seems really off
00:20:608 (1) - would make more sense to be in the same combo as 00:20:221 (1) - , nc seems pointless here
00:42:576 (5,1) - would space this a bit to make 1/6 - 1/4 change more clear
00:48:336 - this whoole part is prettsy weird since there is a clear repeating 3 note pattern playing in the song
look at what other diffs did here, that makes more sense
01:25:972 (1,2,3) - rhythms like this are tilt. 01:26:235 (3) - is two strong sounds but mapped as slider while , but 01:25:972 (1,2) - is mapped with jumps on barely audible things
01:27:199 (1,2,3) - no idea why these have to be kicksliders
01:36:745 (2,1,1,2,1,2) - why does this suddenly turn into such a centered mess of overlapped things? looks really out of place with the map


inf
00:09:189 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - dont really understand triples on blue tick emphasis
00:20:222 - same colorhax suggestion as top diff


exh
fine


adv
not using any spaced active 1/2 gaps makes the gap to the next difficulty a bit too much imo


ayyreal
00:47:354 - 01:05:790 - where are the circles..
https://lasse.s-ul.eu/wSLDql3k.jpg
https://lasse.s-ul.eu/q/rUdVGopB.jpg
shouldn't be too hard to replace some sliders here
also makes parts like 00:57:063 (1,2,3,4,5) - be more intense to play than the intense chorus which is lol


:b:
00:06:092 (3,4,1) - will really throw off new players with how 3 leads into 1

exhaust - advanced gap seems really huge
gravity has some really questionable things, mainly rhythm/patterning as stated above
PoNo
504 posts
Joined July 2014
PoNo

Lasse wrote:

my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/654160
pono
forgot colorhax
00:07:834 (1,2,3) - rhythm is lol, white ticks on 00:07:835 (1,3) - stand out so much in the song, 2 takes away a lot from that and making 00:08:415 - clickable Why rhythm is lol ? I simply follow the 3 sounds I hear, also why put a 1/2 slider there, this looks so undermapped and empty imo,
your idea is good but I prefer mine for that one.
01:27:199 (1,2,3) - no idea why these have to be kicksliders I've just tried that and this looks way much emphasising the part, but thats can be just my opinion, I'll change it if ppl really want to.
Thanks for the mod !
fix
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Realazy
Elite Mapper
1,004 posts
Joined June 2011
Realazy
added some circles and some break time in the parts mentioned, thanks
GoldenWolf
2,983 posts
Joined May 2012
GoldenWolf

Lasse wrote:

wolf
00:05:705 (1) - considered mapping this a sliderend? it's so much weaker than all the other clicks here I did, didn't fit the sound at all so scraped it
00:20:222 - how about making this orange instead or some other color not used for the intro? would be cute on the 1/6 imo
just like you did on 00:38:802 (1) - I will kill alheak because he STILL HASN'T UPLOADED MY DIFF WITH THE CHANGES BECAUSE THIS IS ALREADY ORANGE AAAAAAAAAAAAA
01:01:154 (3,4) - the high pitch is starting from here already, so why not start the jumps here too? Because it isn't in the same phrase of the song. 01:00:881 (1,2,3,4) - is a group of 2x2 notes, first one higher pitched than the second one, while the jump after is on groups of 3 notes all being the same pitch.
01:03:608 - would also make sense to nc this similar to the three not patterns before Combo would be way too short, and short combo aren't cute
01:16:972 (7,1,2) - triggered http://i.imgur.com/t5m7eEr.jpg I'll kill alheak again BECAUSE THE WHOLE PATTERN HAS CHANGED SINCE
01:37:086 - sounds like it would make more sense to start the stream from here for the piano, so maybe http://i.imgur.com/yCBHmEl.jpg ? also don't get why the stream is mapped so differently from 01:38:108 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - when both seem to follow something so similar For the first stream, the piano even starts on the second slider, notes are just so low pitched it's barely audible, so I started the stream where the notes are starting to be audible at 01:36:949 (3) - here, and as for the other one, it's much higher pitched and has more variations in how it's played, so even though they kinda sound similar they're different enough that I mapped them differently
01:38:790 - soft whistle would be nice on this sounds cute
01:58:699 - soft finish would sound better indeed
thanks for your cute mod

alhEAK PLEASE UPDATE MY DIFF GODDAMNIT thank you
Alheak
910 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Alheak

Lasse wrote:

my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/654160

hitsounding (for diffs that use the one from infinite or similar)
added more whistles with kurai's mod, jsut didn't upload xd
lowered volume as well

inf
00:09:189 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - dont really understand triples on blue tick emphasis changed this part
00:20:222 - same colorhax suggestion as top diff ya


exh
fine


adv
not using any spaced active 1/2 gaps makes the gap to the next difficulty a bit too much imo went over the spread with kurai and it seems just fine, there are 1/2 spaced gaps in the 155bpm which should be enough to introduce them while keeping the diff very playable for slower players
the gap is mostly due to the changes in bpm which makes it difficult to add too many circles in the 220bpm parts in ADV


:b:
00:06:092 (3,4,1) - will really throw off new players with how 3 leads into 1 changed
thank you!
PoNo
504 posts
Joined July 2014
PoNo

Kurai wrote:

Bon je vais pas m'attarder sur les détails car y'a un peu trop de difficultés, je vais juste mentionner les trucs que je trouve importants.

[PONO'S GRAVITY]
  1. 00:15:576 (1,2,3) - Pourquoi ces notes vont vers le haut alors que le piano va vers l'octave plus bas ? Le pattern aurait plus d'impact si il suivait visuellement les changement d'intensité musicale surtout quand tu as 00:17:125 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - qui représente parfaitement ces changements.Car c'était pas dans mon but de suivre le piano en terme d'orientation de shapes
  2. 00:19:447 (1,2,1,2) - Si on suit encore cette logique, ces sliders devraient plus pointer vers le heut de l'écran plutôt que vers le bas. Même réponse qu'au dessus
fix
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Pense-bête pour que j'aille demander des testplays sur les deux dernières difficultés.
Kurai
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Kurai
[PONO'S GRAVITY]
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PoNo
504 posts
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PoNo

Kurai wrote:

[PONO'S GRAVITY]
  1. 01:33:971 (3) - unsnapped
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Kurai
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boop
AncuL
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AncuL
is it that one time goldenwolf doesn't make demetori maps
Alheak
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Alheak
yes but he's not the host so it wont ruin his demetori ranked maps combo
AncuL
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AncuL
[Wolf's Valkryia]
01:26:517 (3,7) - tbh i wouldn't use the clap hitsounds on these two notes because i got confused with the more "epic" part which is on 01:27:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . they both sound the same while the more epic section needs to be emphasized
GoldenWolf
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GoldenWolf
but the jumpier part has FINISHES EVER OTHER NOTE while the less jumpy one doesn't
AncuL
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AncuL
But the main "feature" that makes the epic part stand the most is the clap and not the finishes (imo)
plus, this might be based on my mania hitsounding knowledge but the claps on the buildup doesn't fit the music while the epic part does

and because you told me about it, i just realized that the other notes actually have finishes and the hitsound on my skin is so inaudible. so i tried using default skin and i wouldn't say i like it. but it's just preference
Nao Tomori
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change gowo's diffname to something better using the song name is terrible
Alheak
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Alheak
ok

changed to "maximum"

wait thats what it was supposed to be

welp
Nao Tomori
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m4m btw.

[gOwO]
00:05:125 - uh did u accidentally delete a note
the 5 notes sounds rly clear,,,

00:13:157 (1,2) - wudnt it B better to Nc 2 insted cuz Emphasis.

00:51:608 - wud b cool 2 do something different here czu theres a Bell. like dis: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9510031

01:07:154 (2,3,4,1) - can u Make this into a Hexagon in sted cuz Rn it looks Kinda Weird

01:17:449 - Add a Circle her imo


01:27:608 - the Finish Spam Here sounds Very Bad to me. I think Claps would make more sense. Finish just sounds rly Outo f Place.

01:49:426 (1) - Add Clap.

01:58:154 (1,2) - Very Sad to see this simplified Tbh.

[pono]
00:39:576 (1) - This Slider Looks Ver y Ugly. try and make the first part look more evenly Curved.

00:48:336 (1,2) - i dont think the rhythm here is good, the first 2 notes sound much stronger than the 3rd one in each pattern lol. i think ctrl g works better.

note this is mostly cuz u put whistles on slider ends so if u move the whistles itd Also b Better.

01:01:426 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - R u Fort.

01:13:972 (1,2) - Overmapped Slider ends dont rly work here imo. since u used circles on all the other ones. so Circles R better i think.

01:17:449 - Triple ?

01:24:199 - Bro this slider end is Really Really Strong. circle + 1/1 slider works better here considering that.

01:25:972 (1,2,3) - ctrlg works way better with the melody, atm u hav a slider end on a melody note and click on basically nothing with 2.

01:37:426 (1,2) - Theres Nothing on the Red tick at all. ctrl g works a lot better with the hitsounding and the song.

01:58:608 - Tbh a 1/6 triple at the end would b really funny.. but ignoring this completely is Kinda Lame.

[infinite]
00:05:125 - Y did U also ignore this Very Obvious Piano Note D=

01:01:426 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Nc These the Same Way Pleaase.

01:17:449 - Why Did U ignore this 1 2.
y did u all ignore it holy

01:26:108 (3) - i feel like putting this on the white tick makes way mor sense cuz theres nothing on the red tick. like i get the effect ur Going for but i dont think it works that well. or u can make 2 a slider as well.

01:45:063 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - NC Consistency Please.

01:53:790 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Same.

just nc on where 5 is for all of those intead and its better yea
[exh]
00:27:092 (6,7) - Making these clickable would b cooler imo.

same of the earlier 1s

01:01:426 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - look u did it right here good joB!

01:22:154 - i dont think this works well cuz the end of 6, all of 7 and 8 are grouped in the song differently from the previous phrase.,,

solid diff
[]
didu forget to upload ur light insane or something lol. u need something in between advanced and exhaust. this is the pop reason

low diffs look fine but yea get something around 3.8 - 4.0 sr and then i can nominate
Alheak
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Alheak

Naotoshi wrote:

m4m btw.

[infinite]
00:05:125 - Y did U also ignore this Very Obvious Piano Note D= all i can hear is a ghost note but clearly not as important as the others here

01:01:426 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Nc These the Same Way Pleaase. ok

01:17:449 - Why Did U ignore this 1 2. same reason, barely audible and would kinda ruin the rhythmical consistency of this part
y did u all ignore it holy

01:26:108 (3) - i feel like putting this on the white tick makes way mor sense cuz theres nothing on the red tick. like i get the effect ur Going for but i dont think it works that well. or u can make 2 a slider as well. changed in another way

01:45:063 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - NC Consistency Please. ya

01:53:790 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Same.

just nc on where 5 is for all of those intead and its better yea
[exh]
00:27:092 (6,7) - Making these clickable would b cooler imo. gotta have the training wheels for this diff

same of the earlier 1s

01:01:426 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - look u did it right here good joB!

01:22:154 - i dont think this works well cuz the end of 6, all of 7 and 8 are grouped in the song differently from the previous phrase.,, maybe better now

solid diff
[]
didu forget to upload ur light insane or something lol. u need something in between advanced and exhaust. this is the pop reason

low diffs look fine but yea get something around 3.8 - 4.0 sr and then i can nominate
spread is fine, dont be spooked by numbers



thanks but please stop visnisx speech i couldn't understand half of what the fuck you were talking about
GoldenWolf
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GoldenWolf

Naotoshi wrote:

m4m btw.

[gOwO]
00:05:125 - uh did u accidentally delete a note
the 5 notes sounds rly clear,,, wtf nao it's very clear I map the doubles here and not the very faint note in the middle of it

00:13:157 (1,2) - wudnt it B better to Nc 2 insted cuz Emphasis. sure

00:51:608 - wud b cool 2 do something different here czu theres a Bell. like dis: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9510031 meh, that would break the flow and patterning going on for a not-so-noticeable bell, wasn't even the focus here even so

01:07:154 (2,3,4,1) - can u Make this into a Hexagon in sted cuz Rn it looks Kinda Weird fixed

01:17:449 - Add a Circle her imo wtf nao again? it's so faint it's barely audible


01:27:608 - the Finish Spam Here sounds Very Bad to me. I think Claps would make more sense. Finish just sounds rly Outo f Place. i already explained why the finish density is what it is here in a previous mod

01:49:426 (1) - Add Clap. no because 1) there isn't a snare here and 2) because I can't use the normal finish and the custom snare at the same time because of how the hitsounds are set up and if we fix that we break other things

01:58:154 (1,2) - Very Sad to see this simplified Tbh. wtf do you mean here it's always been like this?

pls stop writing like that you're tilting me
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