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Mike Greene - Bill Nye the Science Guy Theme Song (Chinese I

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Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Monstrata
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on March 31, 2016 at 1:55:21 PM

Artist: Mike Greene
Title: Bill Nye the Science Guy Theme Song (Chinese Intro)
Source: Bill Nye the Science Guy
Tags: Disney beer 比尔教科学 Irreversible
BPM: 128
Filesize: 1262kb
Play Time: 00:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (2 stars, 54 notes)
  2. Easy (1.01 stars, 23 notes)
  3. Hard (3.11 stars, 86 notes)
  4. Irreversibeer's Coors Light Insane (3.3 stars, 69 notes)
  5. Normal (1.19 stars, 33 notes)
  6. Saccharomyces cerevisiae (4.24 stars, 94 notes)
Download: Mike Greene - Bill Nye the Science Guy Theme Song (Chinese Intro)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Last edited by Monstrata , edited 23 times in total.
Avishay
1,250 posts
Joined April 2013
Avishay
BEER BEER BEER
Chaoslitz
Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder
2,325 posts
Joined November 2013
Chaoslitz
Preview: We are 是科學家

"We are is scientist"

:<
Sonnyc
7,761 posts
Joined June 2008
Sonnyc
Wow Drain Time 29:999? Really????
Mismagius
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Joined July 2008
Mismagius
i wanna make a gd
Chaos
osu! Alumni
244 posts
Joined May 2013
Chaos


Saccharomyces cerevisiae
00:08:241 (4) - Move to where (3) is (216,345) and replace (3) on stack so (4) blankets properly
00:10:116 (2) - slider needs adjustment to be properly blanketing (4)
00:11:054 (5) - move sliderhead 1 unit left
00:11:523 (1,2) - Fix blanket
00:13:866 (2,4) - ^
00:18:554 (4,1) - ^

EDIT: This was an IRC mod in #modhelp. Felt as though simply listing the suggestions as above was better than submitting the entire chat log during the time which I went back and forth with monstrata.
Last edited by Chaos , edited 3 times in total.
Hanabei
Hanabei
10/10 kek
Ayesha Altugle
3,052 posts
Joined October 2011
Ayesha Altugle
This should have been the background for this map
Anxient
1,573 posts
Joined June 2014
Anxient
pear! pear! pear! pear! pear! pear!
Bursthammy
1,254 posts
Joined May 2015
Bursthammy
>be me
>don't get to GD for this

bad man feels
fieryrage
osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II
1,404 posts
Joined November 2013
fieryrage
what the fuck is with these meme maps recently pleas
Dashyy-
752 posts
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Dashyy-
beeyar shin cushion jaw
Rizen
1,663 posts
Joined August 2013
Rizen
they're actually saying "Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill";D
SnowNiNo_
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
2,108 posts
Joined April 2013
SnowNiNo_

Anxient wrote:

pear! pear! pear! pear! pear! pear!
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
4,315 posts
Joined December 2011
Irreversible
yoho
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play rainworld
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play rainworld
First time mapping mania ^-^

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448,192,5663,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,5898,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,6132,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,6366,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,6601,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,6835,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,7773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,8124,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,8476,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,8710,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,8944,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,9179,128,0,9648:0:0:0:0:
320,192,9648,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,10116,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,10585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,11054,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,11523,128,0,11991:0:0:0:0:
320,192,11991,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,12460,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,12694,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,13398,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,13632,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,13866,128,8,14335:0:0:0:0:
64,192,14335,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,14804,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,15038,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,15273,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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448,192,16679,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,17148,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,17616,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,18085,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,18554,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,20663,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,22773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,24179,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
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Monstrata
Uh wat, i didn't order these xd
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru
did some minor spacing changes over iirc prob not worth posting xd
Ayesha Altugle
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Ayesha Altugle
lolspeedrank
Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
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Kibbleru
b4 any1 complains about corclejerk id like to say that this is a very low bpm map with fairly standard/safe mapping styles. so i honestly see nothing wrong with it.

i also wanted to respect the fact that the mapper wanted to get this ranked for april fools
Chaoslitz
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Chaoslitz
log
2016-03-25 15:05 Monstrata: wanna help me rank beer nye? :D
2016-03-25 15:05 Chaoslitz: beer! beer! beer!
2016-03-25 15:05 Chaoslitz: sure xd
2016-03-25 15:05 Monstrata: uh, if you have time tonight haha
2016-03-25 15:06 Chaoslitz: it is bubbled? o.o
2016-03-25 15:06 Monstrata: cuz i wanna rank it like now, march 25 so it can be ranked for april 1 xD
2016-03-25 15:06 Monstrata: yea bubbled
2016-03-25 15:06 Monstrata: :D
2016-03-25 15:06 Chaoslitz: ah i will check today
2016-03-25 15:10 Monstrata: okay ty :D
2016-03-25 15:11 Chaoslitz: wait do you know if we can qualify more than a map in 24 hrs now? :o
2016-03-25 15:11 Monstrata: i dont think we can ;c
2016-03-25 15:12 Chaoslitz: ahh okay
2016-03-25 15:12 Monstrata: its a weird rule, since you can bubble as many maps as you want lol
2016-03-25 15:12 Chaoslitz: yea ;w;
2016-03-25 15:13 Chaoslitz: modded few bubbled maps these days
2016-03-25 15:13 Chaoslitz: is there a metadata for that LOL
2016-03-25 15:13 Monstrata: o yea
2016-03-25 15:13 Monstrata: i talked with lanturn and kwan
2016-03-25 15:13 Monstrata: they both approve xD
2016-03-25 15:13 Chaoslitz: ok xD
2016-03-25 15:13 Monstrata: since no official metadata actually exists, this is the closest we have xD
2016-03-25 15:13 Chaoslitz: okie
2016-03-25 15:13 Chaoslitz: We are 是科學家
2016-03-25 15:13 Chaoslitz: ACTION runs
2016-03-25 15:14 Monstrata: lool
2016-03-25 15:14 Monstrata: i dont read chinese r i p ;c
2016-03-25 15:14 Chaoslitz: We are is scientist
2016-03-25 15:14 Monstrata: i hope the chinese tag i have makes sense lol
2016-03-25 15:14 Monstrata: o lmao
2016-03-25 15:14 Monstrata: that grammar
2016-03-25 15:14 Chaoslitz: ummm let me check
2016-03-25 15:14 Chaoslitz: rip grammar :<
2016-03-25 15:15 Chaoslitz: that tag is fine
2016-03-25 15:15 Monstrata: ok xD
2016-03-25 15:20 Chaoslitz: wait it is exactly 30 secs? lol
2016-03-25 15:20 Monstrata: yes
2016-03-25 15:21 Monstrata: xDD
2016-03-25 15:21 Chaoslitz: ok xd
2016-03-25 15:21 Monstrata: calculated :D
2016-03-25 15:21 Chaoslitz: :D ok
2016-03-25 15:25 Monstrata: oh
2016-03-25 15:25 Monstrata: hmm
2016-03-25 15:25 Monstrata: 00:17:616 (2,3,1) - let me fix this on Advanced
2016-03-25 15:25 Chaoslitz: okok
2016-03-25 15:25 Monstrata: Turn stacking on and the spacing is like wtf
2016-03-25 15:25 Chaoslitz: i am checking xd
2016-03-25 15:25 Monstrata: lol
2016-03-25 15:28 Monstrata: okay
2016-03-25 15:28 Monstrata: i fixed it. let me know if i should update now
2016-03-25 15:28 Monstrata: or if you ahve some things to say too
2016-03-25 15:29 Chaoslitz: wait xd
2016-03-25 15:29 Chaoslitz: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/932935 Mike Greene - Bill Nye the Science Guy Theme Song (Chinese Intro) [Easy]]
2016-03-25 15:30 Chaoslitz: 00:20:898 - place an object here instead of a rever? :p
2016-03-25 15:30 Chaoslitz: reverse*
2016-03-25 15:32 Monstrata: hmm
2016-03-25 15:32 Monstrata: i kinda like the structure tho xD removing repeat kinda messes everything up
2016-03-25 15:32 Chaoslitz: ahh okay
2016-03-25 15:33 Monstrata: yea. the "beer, beer, beerrt etc..." there isn't actually snapped to anything, or its like 1/6 and 1/12's
2016-03-25 15:33 Monstrata: so im just following the drum in the bg for parts here
2016-03-25 15:33 Monstrata: otherwise the snapping gets really confusing too x__X
2016-03-25 15:33 Chaoslitz: 00:23:944 (1) - the track of the slider looks overlaped with hg CS
2016-03-25 15:33 Chaoslitz: i see
2016-03-25 15:33 Chaoslitz: 00:05:194 (1) - yea this looks better lol
2016-03-25 15:34 Monstrata: ahh yea i was a bit worried about that
2016-03-25 15:34 Monstrata: okay
2016-03-25 15:34 Monstrata: i can remap it
2016-03-25 15:34 Chaoslitz: ok :3
2016-03-25 15:45 Chaoslitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THH7P08zuhU
2016-03-25 15:45 Chaoslitz: wtf
2016-03-25 15:45 Monstrata: lol
2016-03-25 15:48 Monstrata: omg
2016-03-25 15:48 Monstrata: okay done
2016-03-25 15:48 Monstrata: made something cool
2016-03-25 15:49 Chaoslitz: ok :o
2016-03-25 15:49 Monstrata: can i update now? ;o
2016-03-25 15:49 Chaoslitz: one more
2016-03-25 15:49 Chaoslitz: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/933105 Mike Greene - Bill Nye the Science Guy Theme Song (Chinese Intro) [Hard]]
2016-03-25 15:49 Chaoslitz: 00:05:194 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - isnt the combo too long? :<
2016-03-25 15:50 Monstrata: o wops
2016-03-25 15:50 Monstrata: added ncs
2016-03-25 15:51 Chaoslitz: update now xd
2016-03-25 15:52 Monstrata: ok updated xD
2016-03-25 15:52 Chaoslitz: okie
2016-03-25 15:52 Monstrata: hope you like the new slider better xD
2016-03-25 15:52 Monstrata: :D
2016-03-25 15:52 Chaoslitz: :>
2016-03-25 15:53 Chaoslitz: i wonder if the volume of the mp3 is too low? lol
2016-03-25 15:53 Monstrata: really hard to get a good audio tbh xP
2016-03-25 15:54 Monstrata: no official sources for audio anyways xP
2016-03-25 15:54 Monstrata: so there isn't really anywhere you can download the mp3
2016-03-25 15:54 Chaoslitz: i am afraid the quality is bad if i amplified it uwu
2016-03-25 15:54 Monstrata: except youtube convert x_x
2016-03-25 15:54 Chaoslitz: x_x
2016-03-25 15:54 Monstrata: ya same xP
2016-03-25 15:55 Monstrata: i also had to edit the mp3 a bit with sony vegas because of some timing and stuff so i think its understandable sound quality is a bit lower than expected
2016-03-25 15:55 Chaoslitz: ah ok then
2016-03-25 15:55 Monstrata: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/631413 supercell - The Bravery]
2016-03-25 15:55 Monstrata: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/690778 supercell - The Bravery (TV Edit)]
2016-03-25 15:56 Monstrata: tv-edit had mp3 edit so it ended up lowering mp3 quality too xP
2016-03-25 15:56 Chaoslitz: oh :o
2016-03-25 15:57 Monstrata: yea. its not tooo uncommon. i think they'd only dq for low quality if there was a official source
2016-03-25 15:57 Chaoslitz: there isnt xd
2016-03-25 15:57 Monstrata: and the mapper was using a youtube convert instead of using official source
2016-03-25 15:57 Chaoslitz: :o
2016-03-25 15:57 Monstrata: yep, so i think we should be okay for mp3 quality xD
2016-03-25 15:57 Chaoslitz: ok xd
2016-03-25 15:58 Chaoslitz: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/932904 Mike Greene - Bill Nye the Science Guy Theme Song (Chinese Intro) [Advanced]]
2016-03-25 15:58 Chaoslitz: 00:18:788 (3,1,2) -
2016-03-25 15:58 Chaoslitz: D:
2016-03-25 15:58 Monstrata: o yea
2016-03-25 15:59 Monstrata: it looks really weird
2016-03-25 15:59 Monstrata: but view with stacking
2016-03-25 15:59 Monstrata: xD
2016-03-25 15:59 Chaoslitz: :o
2016-03-25 15:59 Chaoslitz: should be fine i think?
2016-03-25 15:59 Monstrata: i think the same thing happened with your friend's map
2016-03-25 16:00 Monstrata: for uh Kano's 6 trillion years map
2016-03-25 16:00 Monstrata: yea
2016-03-25 16:00 Monstrata: since Stacking = what players will see
2016-03-25 16:00 Chaoslitz: oh ok :3
2016-03-25 16:00 Chaoslitz: i didnt turn on that xD
2016-03-25 16:00 Monstrata: yea xD
2016-03-25 16:00 Monstrata: its almost never useful, except for patterns like these when the slider-ends are all stacked xD
2016-03-25 16:01 Monstrata: then you go ?___? how does it make such a huge change loool
2016-03-25 16:01 Chaoslitz: xd alright
2016-03-25 16:01 Monstrata: o
2016-03-25 16:01 Monstrata: i could fix the blanket
2016-03-25 16:01 Chaoslitz: ?
2016-03-25 16:01 Monstrata: tho
2016-03-25 16:01 Monstrata: 00:18:788 (3,1) -
2016-03-25 16:01 Monstrata: for Advanced
2016-03-25 16:01 Monstrata: its like 2 pixels off
2016-03-25 16:01 Chaoslitz: oh okay lol
2016-03-25 16:02 Monstrata: okay fixed xD
2016-03-25 16:02 Chaoslitz: update xD
2016-03-25 16:03 Monstrata: updated~
2016-03-25 16:04 Chaoslitz: okie
2016-03-25 16:05 Chaoslitz: ahh wait
2016-03-25 16:09 Monstrata: oh? ;o
2016-03-25 16:09 Chaoslitz: should i qualify it now xd
2016-03-25 16:10 Monstrata: yaaa
2016-03-25 16:10 Monstrata: if nothing else to say
2016-03-25 16:10 Monstrata: :D
2016-03-25 16:10 Chaoslitz: let me post the log first ww
2016-03-25 16:10 Monstrata: okay

Kibbleru wrote:

b4 any1 complains about corclejerk id like to say that this is a very low bpm map with fairly standard/safe mapping styles. so i honestly see nothing wrong with it.

i also wanted to respect the fact that the mapper wanted to get this ranked for april fools
Same reason here, as well as the mapset itself has high quality

(Edit: Confirmed with the metadata and the chinese tags, also did a minor change in Easy diff)

Qualified!
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
>High quality

Like I'm not sure

I've been busy with school

I haven't been modding as much as I should

I haven't been relevant since like 2013

but this map just kinda feels really rushed and shitty.

Like don't get me wrong, it's RANKABLE and, back when I was BN, I was notable for ranking shit just like this, but if you're going to tell me that this map is a high quality map then honestly you have no clue what you're talking about lol.

Maybe turn down those blaring hitnormal sounds. Maybe it's just the new headsets I bought, but I feel like they're just incredibly overbearing, especially given how low quality the mp3 is.

And like seriously like

i fucking hate small CS like who the fuck actually enjoys this. Especially when it's not even the hardest diff in a map. Since it's about 1 AM right now, I don't feel like looking at RC and seeing if there's rules against CS order, but still, it's just entirely silly. It was stupid when Jarby did it, it was stupid when Mogsworth did it, and it's stupid now.

Like lmao rank what you want but don't try to tell me that meme maps are "high quality"
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
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Monstrata
I chose the normal sampleset to give more consistent feedback. Soft doesn't fit imo, and Drum blends with the background beat a bit too much for my liking. Normal seemed best to me since it gives the most reliable feedback to players. The vocals are often out of sync and/or unsnapped so the rhythm is really centered around those drum beats in the background, and creating rhythm diversity through that consistent 2/4 beat lol.

Small CS's are great on short songs imo. It's so short you can play it over and over again and improve accuracy. People tend to miss more often on maps whose CS's are lower than what they are accustomed to, so a short song makes missing less demotivating imo. The map already has a good linear CS spread, 3>3.5>4>4.5>5. The addition of Irre's Insane doesn't affect the spread because there's already a difficulty available for a wide range of skill levels, which is the main reason we put so much emphasis on spreads. Think of it like another mapset with additional Insanes for the sake of diversity. You don't need five different 4.6-5.0 star Insanes, but some people include them anyways.

I'm quite confident my mapping style is high quality, and so is Irre's. Nothing was rushed, this isn't even fast compared to some of my other maps, which were going for approval too lol.. I just submitted really late, but I did get an adequate (imo) number of mods, both through irc and irl xD.
Ayesha Altugle
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Ayesha Altugle
this is a good map tbh
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru

Reditum wrote:

>High quality

Like I'm not sure

I've been busy with school

I haven't been modding as much as I should

I haven't been relevant since like 2013

but this map just kinda feels really rushed and shitty.

Like don't get me wrong, it's RANKABLE and, back when I was BN, I was notable for ranking shit just like this, but if you're going to tell me that this map is a high quality map then honestly you have no clue what you're talking about lol.

Maybe turn down those blaring hitnormal sounds. Maybe it's just the new headsets I bought, but I feel like they're just incredibly overbearing, especially given how low quality the mp3 is.

And like seriously like

i fucking hate small CS like who the fuck actually enjoys this. Especially when it's not even the hardest diff in a map. Since it's about 1 AM right now, I don't feel like looking at RC and seeing if there's rules against CS order, but still, it's just entirely silly. It was stupid when Jarby did it, it was stupid when Mogsworth did it, and it's stupid now.

Like lmao rank what you want but don't try to tell me that meme maps are "high quality"

it is rushed, however for a good reason; to have it ranked by april fools.
also as momstrata said, it was submitted rather late.
Okoayu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
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Okoayu
I can barely hear this song over the hitsounding
meii18
3,577 posts
Joined October 2013
meii18
Advanced: 00:25:819(1,2)- Did you put this 1/2 jump on purpose? At other 1/2 patterns like this one you didn't add any jump as I can see so if you putted it on purpose,I guess you have to use the same distance here as you did with other 1/2 patterns (decreasing the spacing)

By the way, is 'Saccharomyces cerevisiae' reffered to something regarding the series or the song?Just asking since it looks questionable to me o.o
Also I'm not sure about the drain time.The map ends on 30 seconds but it shows 00:29 instead and that's why I am confused since the songs below 30 seconds are not acceptable for rank.

Anyway congratulations!
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Dilectus
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Dilectus
shouldve mapped english version (aka the better one) <3
Monstrata
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Monstrata
Saccharomyces cerevisiae is the scientific name for the yeast used to make beer.

Idk about the 1/4 jump thing... lets talk irc, maybe you meant something else, cuz thats a 1/2 jump lol.
HappyRocket88
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Joined May 2014
HappyRocket88
this can't be real. XD

It's quite interesting how some people say "this is not circlejerk", "the quality of the map is good", when there are maps with the same "quality" on pending and have been waiting for nomination during months...

What's the problem of saying "yes i wanted to rank my friend's map"? After all that's the implicit connotation this mapset presents by getting qualified with 0 mods.
Mint
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Mint

HappyRocket88 wrote:

when there are maps with the same "quality" on pending and have been waiting for nomination during months...
I just don't get why people keep saying this. Yes, it'd be the most ideal thing to have an objective system that actually favours both quality and pending time at the same, it's not realistic at all. You should know that being a BN is a voluntarily position and that people icon/mod what they want - you can't possibly force something like that on everyone, that's not realistic nor possible at all. A system like that might work theoretically, but BNs/modders/mappers are humans, we do what we want - in reality it doesn't work at all. I wish more people could understand this asdfghjkl;


On the other hand, instead of commenting on the ranking process, would post stuff that would help the mapper and let the higher-ups decide what is appropriate and what not.
OzzyOzrock
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Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani

Kibbleru wrote:

it is rushed, however for a good reason; to have it ranked by april fools.
also as momstrata said, it was submitted rather late.
My god

Better go ahead and shoot out a really shitty christmas map and get it instantly regardless of quality because "hahh gotta get it ranked by christmas!!"

Like bahahaha

This is like when that 3.15.2016 map got fucking DQed and everyone peed their fucking pants

If you want to get something ranked by a certain time, you have to plan WAY in advance to ensure that its good quality, and not sacrifice quality just for some arbirtary "due date" like lmao.

Its like writing a paper. you dont go to your professor and go like "yeah, i know this paper is shit but i started it REALLY late and I gotta get it done so pass me" and expect them to be like "Wow!!!!!! Okay!!!!! Good work!!!!"

Like kill me
Raiden
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Raiden
so you're just going to prevent an apparently good map from being ranked just because it's been ranked faster than others that sit in pending

as if that's any of your concerns?? You should rather focus on map's quality, not on how long it's taken to get qualified.

I'm speaking through a neutral standpoint, cannot judge osu!standard beatmaps' quality. The arguments you guys use for this, the "good maps sitting in pending and this ranked so fast" is really twisted if you ask me.
HappyRocket88
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HappyRocket88
At least getting two o three normal mods would have been the more ideal here, but just one? Besides, Irreversible posted his diff and no one modded it.

I don't know if Chaos' mod was even replied or was just ignored intentionally.

I honestly see no purpose of mapping if you think what you map is the best and don't need feedback from the community.

"The mapset has high quality. Don't need mods. Let's call BNs and rank it."
ztrot
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ztrot
These kinda things will happen tech there is nothing wrong with the map as it stands, there is nothing breaking RC at least nothing that screams you can't do it.
The one problem I see with this is how quick it was ranked is it a legit problem for this map not at all. In fact it really has nothing to do with the map, it is more the fact they while they wanted this ranked before the 1st if they had already talked and everything was set why not set it up to rank on the 1st? I feel like that might be more of a blanket excuse to avoid backlash. Like I said the map isn't horrible just this kinda goes against what everyone else is doing..

Now I for one feel that if a map has no real errors and the only thing you can do is make suggestions seeing it ranked fast isn't actually a problem. The real problem is would this of been ranked at the same speed if attention was brought to it?

Edit: I really don't like the fact that there was a post stating they modded over irc, if that is the case always provide logs no matter how small, it just ends up looking fishy.
Battle
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Battle
I dunno, I feel like the only real issue with the map is the fact that on 100% effects, the hitsounds are way too overpowering, you can barely hear the song over the default whistles, slides, claps and even the regular hits and then there's that one part that kinda just drops in volume quite dramatically :/
Monstrata
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Topic Starter
Monstrata
The point of getting mods is to improve your map's quality. At some point in your mapset's ranking process you are going to stop and say "I have enough mods, it's time to find a BN and see if they think my map is up to their quality standards." For some, this can be 15+ mods before they feel they are confident. For most, its 4-5 mods. Don't forget that BN checks are also mods. Modding for the sake of having mods is quite pointless. I don't ever look at how many mods a map has before bubbling. It's just weird. Does a map with 30+ mods automatically make it a higher quality mapset than one with 3-4 mods? I prefer to base my quality judgement by looking at the map itself.

Chaos' mod was replied to on #modhelp, since thats where I got the bulk of my mods from actually lol. I just np'ed it twice and random ppl pointed stuff out. I fixed everything anyways, and Chaos knows I fixed everything xD.

HappyRocket88 wrote:

I honestly see no purpose of mapping if you think what you map is the best and don't need feedback from the community.
Let's say you own a brewery that makes world-famous beer. You make the same thing every day, and your customers love it. Should you stop brewing your beer just because no one is giving you negative feedback? No, unless you're retiring. Don't forget that feedback doesn't have to be negative. A BN bubbling your map, and random people commenting on your map being good, fun, etc... through testplays/modhelp/reddit comments; those are also feedback.
Kibbleru
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ztrot wrote:

Edit: I really don't like the fact that there was a post stating they modded over irc, if that is the case always provide logs no matter how small, it just ends up looking fishy.
yeah sorry, i didnt think it was too necessary but will do next time
ztrot
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thanks that is all i really ask :P
Kite
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I believe Monstrata is able to deliver flawless maps, he came out of nowhere and became widely known for his quality work.
Please note, when I say "flawless" I mean it in regards to the ranking criteria.

No map is perfect when submitted for the first time, but a few mods are enough to iron out crude issues for most experienced mappers.
In most cases the creator of a beatmap reviews his work after every combo, and reviews the whole map after it's done. (It's the most important mod out of all.)

People just seem to feel uneasy because of the fast paced ranking process that took place with this set, and it's totally understandable to feel frustrated when others appear to have it "easier" to rank their maps.. but do you truly know how much work they put into it?
Battle
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The last sentence of that statement implies that people who have trouble ranking their own maps aren't putting as much effort into ranking their map as well. People feel uneasy because of the fact that the community is pretty hard to get into, and believe it or not, beginners may be putting equal, if not more, effort into ranking their maps. Yes, monstrata has put in a lot of effort cumulatively, but at the same time, it's not really just to kinda have a challenge statement at the end basically saying that beginners aren't trying their very best to do rank something like this where others only take 4-5 days
Shiirn
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Kite wrote:

I believe Monstrata is able to deliver flawless maps, he came out of nowhere and became widely known for his quality work.
Please note, when I say "flawless" I mean it in regards to the ranking criteria.

No map is perfect when submitted for the first time, but a few mods are enough to iron out crude issues for most experienced mappers.
In most cases the creator of a beatmap reviews his work after every combo, and reviews the whole map after it's done. (It's the most important mod out of all.)

As someone who speedranked the shit out of his maps in the past, I can safely say that the ranking system right now is fucked enough on its own without BNs subtly circlejerking their own maps while pretending to 'work hard' everywhere else.


Not saying that's what happened here, but...

Whether the map is objectively perfect or not should have no bearing on how quickly it gets ranked - we all know that events such as this map are examples of abuse of power rather than simply being ranked fast because it's perfect. Nearly no mods, very quickly ranked, low quality meme map - isn't this just a perfect storm of bad examples to the community?
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Kite
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Battle wrote:

The last sentence of that statement implies that people who have trouble ranking their own maps aren't putting as much effort into ranking their map as well. People feel uneasy because of the fact that the community is pretty hard to get into, and believe it or not, beginners may be putting equal, if not more, effort into ranking their maps. Yes, monstrata has put in a lot of effort cumulatively, but at the same time, it's not really just to kinda have a challenge statement at the end basically saying that beginners aren't trying their very best to do rank something like this where others only take 4-5 days
I didn't mean to imply something like that at all, sorry if it appeared in such a way.
You have valid points about new mappers and their problems of getting established in the community.

When I was referring to effort / work I just mainly wanted to remind people that you only see the surface on a beatmap's progression.
Many people often disregard the stuff that's happening in the back as it's taken for granted.. finding people willing to mod, ask for testplays and feedback and time spent in discussions that may be brought up doing all that.
Kibbleru
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i think we should comment on the maps itself rather than the process.
after all, a thread is all about the map itself, right?
Shiirn
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Really? Let's do that then.


The first few notes are clearly off-vocal. That's DQable on its own. Live voices like that are going to need a few red ticks, not a single-shot-and-pray. Since this is pre-scorev2 you can't even use the "oh it should be flat timed so that the slider timing isnt weird" excuse. This applies to 75%+ of the map at that rate. The voices are horribly off-timing and that's what the map is theoretically following because the actual beat is barely even audible.

Comedian Harmonists - Perpetuum Mobile was DQ'd at least once over its awkward timing - and this thing is worse because at least in monty python's fun activities they were trying to follow a beat.

The entire thing shouldn't be mapped. But oh well. I'll go map jackhammer madness if this is allowed.


edit: 00:19:023 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - the hell is this?

hell the entire thing feels like something I'd expect from a twelve year old who desperately wants friends with his massive meme powers, not from someone actually mechanically skilled at the editor like monstrata. This thing is a monstrosity and should be drug out into the street and shot.


monstratacity
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Dilectus
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What the fuck is ''map quality'' anyways?

Let the man map however the fuck he wants.
Liiraye
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kyshiro's meme engine - speedranked, had timing flaws and was heavily circlejerky. 2 bn's rekt

bearizm's absolute soul - speedranked, ok timing but lacked mods, nuked to fuk, also heavy on the jerk. 2 bn's rekt

monstrata's beer - speedranked (reason deemed valid cuz needs to be ranked for april 1), has rushed flaws in timing and general note placements (only checked last difficulty), 1 mod on thread before qualified, alledged even more circlejerky than the previous maps. ??? bn's rekt

rantmod
I see a lot of experienced people defending this map without actually opening it up, because if they did, they would instantly see how mistimed it is, and how it follows neither vocals nor beat consistently in various parts. Could you please stop? Right now it's up for the QAT to decide if it's acceptable or not to have 30 ms off timing to fit the 30 sec mark 00:00:273 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and continue to map accordingly.

00:15:273 (1) - this repeat isnt following anything, definitely sounds more 1/3 though. The beat is even way off sync with the vocals here, but the timing doesn't adapt to either.

00:11:523 (1,2) - I'd suggest silence the sliderends if they're not following anything but are just enlonged sliders that skips the beat.

00:19:023 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - what exactly is this trying to follow? Neither vocals nor beat is what

00:27:929 (2,3,4,5,1) - off timing, a bit too early along with the majority of the map.

I also agree about the hitsounds being quite high, to me it sounds alright at 50-60% hitsounds and 100% music.

Quality and not rushed? Are you having a giggle m8? How people can claim that with a straight face I really don't know. I could add more stuff once it gets DQ'd
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Shiirn
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Oh, that's why it's timed wrong. It's on purpose - it's 128 bpm so that it's exactly 30 seconds, down to the millisecond. If it was timed correctly (Later offset, multiple bpm to fit the vocals) it would also end earlier and thus not be over thirty seconds long.



lol


at this point i think any question of speedranking being the issue towards the map is out the window - if he had released a fully-completed, flawless Akaito it wouldn't garner much attention other than "praise triangles" "Thx for the pp!"
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i rqualified a map in 1 day Cx

edit: wot idgi its the right bpm.. wgj

edit 2: litaerly only the first note is offbeat and monstrata only maps vocals at the beginnign and end u also cnat rly do anythign abut the first note anyway d
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