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(K)NoW_NAME - Knew day (TV Size)

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Avishay
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 10:36:43 PM

Artist: (K)NoW_NAME
Title: Knew day (TV Size)
Source: 灰と幻想のグリムガル
Tags: hai to gensou no grimgar op opening tv size
BPM: 150
Filesize: 17737kb
Play Time: 01:22
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (2.97 stars, 201 notes)
  2. DiFf_(k)NAME (5.32 stars, 364 notes)
  3. Easy (1.33 stars, 84 notes)
  4. Hard (3.58 stars, 281 notes)
  5. Insane (4.48 stars, 357 notes)
  6. Normal (1.98 stars, 153 notes)
Download: (K)NoW_NAME - Knew day (TV Size)
Download: (K)NoW_NAME - Knew day (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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yeee lets undermap and insert big jumpss
old (new) extra - https://puu.sh/CJlSi/9efa593dc7.osu
wajinshu
Hi! From your M4M queue
[General]
Uncheck widescreen and countdown
[Normal]
HP: 3.5 CS: 3 AR: 5 OD: 4
00:02:220 - 00:02:620 - delete this green tick
[Advanced]
HP: 4 CS: 3.8 AR: 6.5 OD:4.5
00:36:020 (3,4,5) - Spacing not consistent
00:19:020 (2) - Why rhythm not same as 00:12:420 (1,2,3) - I think they have same music imo
00:20:420 (1,2) - ^
00:22:020 (1,2) - ^
00:27:920 (3) - overmapped
00:31:120 (3) - ^
00:59:520 (2) - ^
01:02:720 (4) - ^
01:14:420 (3,4,5,1) - 1/2 and circle in white big tick?
[Hard]
00:31:620 (1,2) - blanket
00:35:620 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:40:820 (5) - Why 2.00
00:55:420 (6) - NC
00:58:620 (9) - ^
01:06:620 (5) - ^
01:11:420 (10) - ^
00:56:020 (1) - Remove NC
00:59:220 (1) - ^
01:07:220 (1) - ^
01:12:020 (1) - ^
[DiFf_(k)NAME]
00:12:020 (3,4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/nxXsm/7b8dcd77d2.png??
00:20:820 (3) - maybe make it same 00:20:620 (2) -
00:49:620 (2,3) -maybe this because it's not very looks http://puu.sh/nxXDh/fbc7ce7786.png
00:58:620 (8) - this slider can be more sexy
01:04:420 (9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - D: looks not very beatiful
GL!
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/419714
Topic Starter
Avishay

wajinshu wrote:

Hi! From your M4M queue
[General]
Uncheck widescreen and countdown
[Normal]
HP: 3.5 CS: 3 AR: 5 OD: 4
00:02:220 - 00:02:620 - delete this green tick
[Advanced]
HP: 4 CS: 3.8 AR: 6.5 OD:4.5
00:36:020 (3,4,5) - Spacing not consistent A stacked triplet.. What's wrong? The spacing before and after this pattern is consistent too.
00:19:020 (2) - Why rhythm not same as 00:12:420 (1,2,3) - I think they have same music imo
00:20:420 (1,2) - ^
00:22:020 (1,2) - ^
00:27:920 (3) - overmapped Nope.
00:31:120 (3) - ^^
00:59:520 (2) - ^
01:02:720 (4) - ^
01:14:420 (3,4,5,1) - 1/2 and circle in white big tick? That's cool but I think current one is well too.
[Hard]
00:31:620 (1,2) - blanket
00:35:620 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - ?
00:40:820 (5) - Why 2.00
00:55:420 (6) - NC
00:58:620 (9) - ^
01:06:620 (5) - ^
01:11:420 (10) - ^
00:56:020 (1) - Remove NC
00:59:220 (1) - ^
01:07:220 (1) - ^
01:12:020 (1) - ^
[DiFf_(k)NAME]
00:12:020 (3,4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/nxXsm/7b8dcd77d2.png?? That's nice but the purpose here is the increased spacing
00:20:820 (3) - maybe make it same 00:20:620 (2) -
00:49:620 (2,3) -maybe this because it's not very looks http://puu.sh/nxXDh/fbc7ce7786.png The whole zigzag movement and look is on purpose :P
00:58:620 (8) - this slider can be more sexy It's on purpose but I will most likely change it lol
01:04:420 (9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - D: looks not very beatiful I might try to do something else..
GL!
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/419714
Unmentioned = fixed, thanks!
_vanity
Hello. I'm here from you M4M Queue.

[Normal]
  1. 00:04:820 (1,2) - I would avoid stacks like these in a Normal difficulty.
  2. 00:33:020 (4) - I'm not sure if it's entirely okay to have reverse sliders that repeat more than once in a Normal difficulty. Feels free to ignore this.
  3. 01:13:020 (4) - ^
  4. 00:20:220 (2) - Have something clickable on this white tick.
  5. 00:15:220 (4) - There needs to be something clickable on the big white tick where the slider ends, because the instruments start there. You could try something like this:
  6. 00:17:020 (2,1) - ^ Try the exact same thing, but turn (4) into a single note:
  7. Just watch out for big white ticks overall.
  8. 00:42:220 (4,5) - This pattern is rather confusing. Remember to avoid stacks!
  9. 00:54:420 (1,2,3,4) - You go from stacking, to not stacking. You should instead keep the circles between the sliders rather than stacking. It's kind of messy to have both.
  10. 00:40:020 (2) - Something clickable at this slider end would be nice!
  11. 00:42:820 (6) - ^
  12. 00:46:620 (3,4) - ^ Same here. You can try this rhythm out:
[Hard]
  1. 00:04:220 (6,7,1) - There's not enough to support a triple here.
  2. 00:06:620 (3,5) - Not so nice looking overlap.
  3. 00:31:620 (1,3) - ^
  4. 00:20:220 (7) - Make the big white tick clickable.
  5. 00:40:020 (3) - Try this rhythm instead:
  6. 01:16:220 (2) - You could try this out instead of one big reverse slider:
[]
Good luck!
Intelli
Hi, M4M from your queue :3

Normal:
  1. 00:12:420 (1) - This feels kinda strange because the rhythm in the song (most clear in the violin part) is this, but I get that it might be a little complex for a Normal diff. Similar sort of awkwardness at 00:15:820

  2. 00:40:620 (3) - Kinda weird that this is a straight edged curve while all the other 1/2 sliders are either straight or smoothly curved

  3. 01:10:220 (1) - Maybe change to a slider? IDK it just feels empty here

  4. 01:18:220 (2) - NC because 1 is more of a pickup. And you have it as NC in Hard, Insane, and DiFf_(k)NAME
Advanced:
  1. 00:00:000 (0) - Just a note, this diff is a HUGE jump from Normal, especially considering the other diffs in the set and the differences between them. Maybe nerf a bit with self mods? I'd rather not tell you how to make it easier, just that it probably could stand with some nerfing.

  2. 00:24:420 (6) - This part feels very empty, while the music is just as dense as before, just with a different drum rhythm. Maybe change the rhythm to this or this?

  3. 00:36:020 (3) - This looks hard to read for an Advanced level player because the stacking makes it look very connected the the 2 slider. Maybe play around with the angle?

  4. 01:18:220 (2) - Same as Normal
Hard:
  1. 00:40:420 (4) - I feel like this jump pattern could be very awkward for Hard level players, especially considering the more straightforward DS from Advanced that you used.
Really liked this diff :D

Insane:
  1. 00:51:420 (1) - I would separate 1 and 2 a little bit more because it just looks plain weird as it is :/

  2. 01:04:620 (5) - This too, it looks like 2 entirely disconnected patterns to me, and really confuses me when I'm trying to read it. I guess it is better than having just a run-of-the-mill 4 star insane diff lol
Sorry, I don't feel comfortable with my modding skill to attempt to mod the hardest diff :(

Really fun map/song, and sorry if my STD modding sucks XD
DeletedUser_3821342
M4M time. This might be a bit rushed because of your time limit (also the queue opened right before I had to go to bed).

[Normal]
  1. You have a lot of spacing errors. Check your Ai Mod. I can feel them during gameplay too. Some of the spacing seems misleading.
  2. 00:38:020 (1) - From here to 00:50:820 (4) - Is more intense than anything In the kiai. I'd suggest just using stuff like 1/1 sliders that have 1 repeat along with some normal sliders and notes. And also you could make the kiai a bit harder too.
  3. 01:08:220 (1) - Rule of thumb, Don't have more than 1 repeat on easier diffs. If you do it tends to confuse newbies and throw them off.
  4. 01:13:020 (4) - ^
  5. 00:59:420 (1,2) - Why unstack the (1)? It can suggest to the player that the time between the (1) and the (2) is longer than the time between the (2) and the (3) when they're actually both the same. There were a few other notes like this I saw. Fix them too.

[Advanced]
  1. 00:04:420 (1) - Remove the NC and put it on 00:05:620 (3) - Instead
  2. 00:07:020 (1) - Your NC spamming is a bit unnecessary. Remove NC on 00:07:020 (1) - , 00:09:620 (1) - & 00:07:820 (1) - and then add NC on 00:08:220 (2) -
  3. 00:33:020 (4) - I don't feel the shape fits the music. I don't hear anything sharp or drastic in the music to justify the pointyness of the slider. Just have it curved really.
  4. Your kiai suffers from the same issue as the normal. 00:12:420 (1) - That section is much more intense than the kiai.
  5. 01:22:620 (3) - Similar to 00:33:020 - Why not just full spiral?

[Hard]
  1. 01:21:020 (7,8,1) - Stack that properly under the (5)
  2. Not much else I could find here. Maybe I could have done a better job if i were allowed a placeholder. C:

[Insane]
  1. 00:11:020 (2) - NCs on all SV changes. Also I don't think linear flow fits the music here. Try something like this?
  2. 00:33:220 (1,2) - Turn that into a spaced stack? I thought that was a slider instead of a note on a slider first time I saw it because of the speed the song was going at lol.
  3. 00:40:420 (3,4,1,2) - Similar shit but these are more excusable because the song is slower.
  4. 01:04:620 (1) - NC here

[DiFf_(k)NAME]
  1. Can't mod experts. Especially stream based ones.
kunka
Hi.
From your Q~
General

  1. Tag: Please add 「opening」「tv size」
  2. I think that HP balance of all diff is not good. In addition, I think that advanced in particular and hard diff do not need same "4". I recommend this
Normal

  1. I think that spacing is small to overall. I recommend DS1.2
  2. 00:33:020 (4) - I can't recommend 2 reverse personally. You change it to 1 reverse, and would add circle? http://puu.sh/nyso6.jpg 01:08:220 (1) - same 01:13:020 (4) - same
  3. 00:43:820 (8) - Please revise distance (x1.21)
  4. 01:14:520 (1) - A end point thinks me to be 01:16:220 - Because, I think that 01:16:220 - is stronger in a sounds than 01:15:620 -
  5. 01:17:620 (1,2) - Would you change snap? I recommend that I pick up the sound of cymbals in snap. http://puu.sh/nytbp.jpg
Advanced

  1. 00:33:020 (4) - 2 reverse. This recommends the change of contents same as normal diff.
  2. 00:58:220 (3,4) - This overlap is difficult to play. Would you remove stack? For example http://puu.sh/nyulq.jpg
  3. 01:14:920 (1) - This recommends the change of contents same as normal diff.
  4. 01:17:620 (1,2) - ^
Hard

  1. 00:34:620 (5,1) - I felt a sense of incongruity in rhythm. try this pls http://puu.sh/nyuG9.jpg
  2. 00:35:620 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - I can't kinda recommend the stream of the hard diff. try this pls http://puu.sh/nyuO8.jpg
  3. 01:01:420 (2,3) - I felt a sense of incongruity in rhythm. I think that it is not necessary to pick up a sound of the 01:01:720 - . try this pls http://puu.sh/nyuZn.jpg
  4. 01:16:220 (2) - 2 reverse. This recommends the change of contents same as normal diff.
Because it is not enough mod tbh, I'm sorry. There isn't too time lol
GL ;)
Kihhou
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4949312 m4m

[Normal]
  1. 3.6 HP LOL not 3.5 but 3.6 looolgggggg```` nothing wrong with it i just wanna know why you have it like that hahaha
  2. 00:18:620 (2,3,1) - for one of my old ranked maps, i got so much flame from #modhelp for making this different DS & same spacing in timeline on my lowest diff of the map. so a BAT popped til it was changed 100%. i dont know if standards are different now but watch out for that since it seems to be part of the style of the diff (was the same for mine). im just not sure after 1.5 years if thats changed.
  3. 01:14:520 (1) - uh lol ye same as advanced please
[Advanced]
  1. i dont get why advanced is suddenly CS 3.8. id understand if it was a part of the map where its consistent throughout all diffs like https://osu.ppy.sh/s/123839 but its just this one. raising CS from 3 only raises star rating by .1 and spread is fine even with this at CS 3. CS 3?
  2. 00:58:420 (4) - double overlaps here can be really confusing so how bout moving 4 so its easier to read for advanced people
  3. 01:14:920 (1) - the cymbal this ends at is a really weak one. its similar to the one at 01:15:020 - too. 01:16:220 - is where all instruments stop along with the strongest cymbal so it really does feel off ending early. so end it at 01:16:220 - pls ye?
  4. 01:17:620 (1,2,3) - this is actually really cool! i love it! such a sick rhythm for this part ~
[Hard]
  1. 00:40:820 (5,6,1,2,3) - i was trying to fix some spacing and aesthetics here but i thought "why not make it a pattern like the one you have at 00:44:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - .." so how bout something like having 00:41:220 (1,2,3) - as a mirror of 00:42:020 (4,5,6) -? im my example, 00:41:420 (2) - is stacked on 00:40:020 (3) - tail
[Insane]
  1. 00:10:620 (5,1) - i reaaaaaally think this needs to be spaced. neat pattern. doesnt fit the music well though. i need a hard hitting 00:10:820 (1) - :c
  2. 00:19:420 (5,1) - having one 1/2 spacing come out of nowhere is fine . but two consecutively really throws me off and doesnt fit the rest of the mapping style in this section. idk if its cuz you ran out of space or.. uh try this
  3. 00:24:020 (4,1) - i like to think im pretty damn good at reading at my skill level. this diff is below my skill level but damn is this pattern confusing!! even spacing between these three 00:24:020 (4,1,2) - make it so its hard to tell if 00:24:420 (1) - is on a white tick, but the main thing is that 00:24:020 (4) - this thing has two reverses on a short slider and 00:24:420 (1) - is at the top as if it continues off of 00:24:020 (4) - slider's 1 reverse. but it goes reverse again for the massive trickery what is this??!?!!11111 uh pls itd be nice if it was 1 reverse only and you can make it a 4 note stream before that reverse slider or something. just not this please lol
  4. 00:37:520 (2) - same as DiffFffFFNAME this is unnecessary and unfitting same reasons.
  5. 01:04:620 (5,6,7,8) - this drastic change of spacing and change of direction feels too difficult for an insane diff. like. the same part on DiFFffF NAME diff was easier than this imo. change 01:04:620 (5,6) - into a 1/4 slider?
  6. 01:21:820 (4,1) - why do you make this spacing so small ;-;
[DiFFFFFffFFffNAME]
  1. 00:05:020 (3,4,5) - consider making these notes not so equal spacing? i think itd be best to have 4 farther away from 3 and closer to 5 to emphasize the strong instrument at 00:05:420 (4) -. imo the pickup note on 00:05:620 (5) - is not very important so i think this would add a nice feel to the gameplay. something like this or some variation
  2. 00:08:220 (4) - i think ahving this as a 1/4 is excessive as im hearing in the music that the slight increase in tempo ends at 00:08:220 - rather than 00:08:420 - . so to mirror that, how about making 00:08:220 (4) - into a 1/2 slider and removing 00:08:420 (5) - ? like
  3. 00:10:820 (1,1,1,2) - same as 00:05:020 (3,4,5) - where i feel it would feel better if it had pairing rather than somewhat equal distances. itll also better accentuate the DS changes in your sliders. something like this?
  4. 00:18:820 (1,2) - space these out? the way it plays compared to the violin in the music seems unfitting, as its rather intensive here.
  5. 00:35:220 (3,4,1) - i think itd play a bit better if theres some disconnect between 4 and 1. right now, in gameplay, slider 3 rotates in to 4 and then into 1 rather quickly and too smoothly, so the player needs to slow down ontop of a 1/2 spacing and then that really removes the emphasis from 00:35:620 (1) -. uhhh so try something like this to capture the instant drums at 00:35:620 (1) - more and get a BAANGGG in your 00:35:220 (3,4,1) - (im assuming you want bang since thats the same as the spaced 00:35:820 (2,3,4,5) -)
  6. 00:37:520 (2) - this seems very unnecessary :c the music is still slowing down here. a lot more here too. raising the density would have the opposite effect soo... remove?
  7. 00:45:620 (2,3) - space this a bit? doesnt evne need to be a lot. just enough so that it doesnt feel like youre matching with 00:47:220 (3,4) - with the same stacking. b/c these are 2 very different parts in the song.
  8. 00:58:620 (8,1,2) - uhhh i think you know the problem lol this stacking can be hard to read too and it doesnt match the style that youve mapped for this rhythm in the rest of the song
  9. 01:04:020 (2,3,4,1) - i get that youre trying to use a style that youve mapped earlier in this diff but it doesnt fit well with the music here and is different from 00:49:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and 00:51:420 (1,2,3,4,5) - . those two are constant buildups while 01:04:020 (2,3,4,1) - has emphasis on 01:04:220 (3) - right in the middle of the pattern. the flute is misleading as thats the only thing ramping up. so id suggest doing a different rhythm for 01:04:020 (2,3,4) - altogether, something that reflects the emphasis on 01:04:020 (2,3) - these two notes :P
  10. 01:15:220 (1,2,3,4,1) - this is ridiculously difficult compared to the rest of the map but its not pressing i guess. more importantly, if you want to keep this pattern, could you please at least maintain the rotation that you had before so that its a lot easier to hit and smoother? hard jumps dont feel fitting here, relative to the rest of the map. so like thisss
  11. 01:21:820 (4,1) - increase the distance between these? right now its soooo underwhelming. at 01:20:420 (4,5,6) - i was like yes yes!! jump jump! and then i get to 01:21:820 (4,1) - with loud cymbals and staccato guitar notes and the distance is just like. oh. huh. so to match that pls increase distance to like this or osmething
Topic Starter
Avishay
Ye okay thanks everyone, lack of experience in mapping lower diffs showed off, at first Normal was harder, but then pkhg recommended me to nerf it (which made some problems with the spacings, I fixed most oif these but missed some I guess) and added Advanced.

As for the responses, I'm kinda flooded, I'll try to get online tomorrow and respond appropriately, so far I've read throug everyone's except Kihhou's mods, I will try to return the favor for everyone by the weekend, I can't even use my icons if necessary, so just to be sure.
N0thingSpecial
AYY from my q

Normal
00:04:220 (3) - not sure that whistle was worth putting a slider end for since you're following the vocals.

00:08:220 (1,2,3) - This is still acceptable cause you have a best rest in between, but starting sliders on red ticks is not ideal here cause despite you're following the vocals, you're still starting and ending on the main beats for the past 8 seconds, so you now suddenly started on an off beat which will throw people off.

00:09:920 (1) - I think this spinner is a bit too short for new players to spin to despite low OD, replace it with a long slider?

00:13:420 (3,1,2) - sliders on red tick. The first one was still acceptable but this you need to fix cause there's not indication that it is going to start on red tick or a rest in between

00:17:220 (1) - not perfect blanket?

00:18:820 (4,1) - not sure why you suddenly stop following the violins

00:20:220 (2,3,1) - might cause rage for different spacing

00:24:020 (5) - oh my, this part is tricky I don't how you can correctly represent the drum at this difficulty, cause the slider end feels really empty, and people will click 00:24:820 (6) - early cause of that

00:40:020 (2) - you suddenly stop here, I thought you're following the vocals ;-; I thought 00:40:420 (3) - this is going to be on the red tick and miss clicked it 2 early every time, use a 4/4 slider if you want

01:14:520 (1) - make this spinner longer
Advance looks fine to me, and Hard is pretty good

Insane
00:19:220 (4,5,1,2) - being hard to read is fine but this is so clustered I thought they were 1/4 apart, until I open up editor and realize it is actual 1/2, space them out a bit more, especially when you have this before: 00:17:220 (1,2,3) - which kinda suggest that those four are 1/4 apart.

00:22:620 (4) - I would move this closer to 00:22:820 (1) - to represent the sharp pitch change in the violin

00:24:020 (4) - 2 reverse arrows are not recommended since you've never hinted it before hand

00:33:220 (1,2) - this is confusing, maybe space them out or NC 00:33:420 (2) -

00:52:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - firstly 00:52:420 (1) - people will expect fast pace cursor movement, or at the least movement, and the you have these two which is really unexpected and forces players to stop completely, and it is not a drastic change in direction of flow it's not really that justified, on the contrary 01:00:120 (6,7,1,2,3,4) - this is done well cause the music suggested there is a pause

01:04:420 (4,1) - space these two out, again confusing to read, I'm not the best at these types of map but this plays better? (not necessarily looks better but hey rough representation.)

01:11:020 (5,6) - same problem with forcing people to stop

01:11:420 (7) - this slider in of itself is stopping the motion of the cursor which really disrupt the flow, at least I can't hear anything that would suggest having to stop here, additionally the shape and size of it strongly suggest that it is a 1/4 slider so consider changing the shape also.

01:22:620 (1) - this looks great but there is this slight bump before the square which may mislead people to go clockwise instead of anti clockwise in the square

I'm too noob to mod DiFf_(k)NAME but I will say that it feels like it has the same problem with Insane in the chorus, it is mostly inconsistent spacing, try to have more repeating patterns so that players get to adjust to the tapping pattern before moving on to a different tapping pattern. ALSO 01:15:220 (1,2,3,4,1) - YOU WANT TO KILL MOUSE PLAYERS ;-; STOP REMINDING ME I'M A BAD PLAYER
Topic Starter
Avishay
Okay I went through the mods and applied accordingly, hopefully I will have time to respond to them soon ;;
Topic Starter
Avishay

_vanity wrote:

Hello. I'm here from you M4M Queue.

[Normal]
  1. 00:04:820 (1,2) - I would avoid stacks like these in a Normal difficulty.
  2. 00:33:020 (4) - I'm not sure if it's entirely okay to have reverse sliders that repeat more than once in a Normal difficulty. Feels free to ignore this.
  3. 01:13:020 (4) - ^
  4. 00:20:220 (2) - Have something clickable on this white tick.
  5. 00:15:220 (4) - There needs to be something clickable on the big white tick where the slider ends, because the instruments start there. You could try something like this:
  6. 00:17:020 (2,1) - ^ Try the exact same thing, but turn (4) into a single note:
  7. Just watch out for big white ticks overall.
  8. 00:42:220 (4,5) - This pattern is rather confusing. Remember to avoid stacks!
  9. 00:54:420 (1,2,3,4) - You go from stacking, to not stacking. You should instead keep the circles between the sliders rather than stacking. It's kind of messy to have both.
  10. 00:40:020 (2) - Something clickable at this slider end would be nice!
  11. 00:42:820 (6) - ^
  12. 00:46:620 (3,4) - ^ Same here. You can try this rhythm out:
[Hard]
  1. 00:04:220 (6,7,1) - There's not enough to support a triple here.
  2. 00:06:620 (3,5) - Not so nice looking overlap.
  3. 00:31:620 (1,3) - ^
  4. 00:20:220 (7) - Make the big white tick clickable.
  5. 00:40:020 (3) - Try this rhythm instead:
  6. 01:16:220 (2) - You could try this out instead of one big reverse slider:
[]
Good luck!

IntelliTroodon wrote:

Hi, M4M from your queue :3

Normal:
  1. 00:12:420 (1) - This feels kinda strange because the rhythm in the song (most clear in the violin part) is this, but I get that it might be a little complex for a Normal diff. Similar sort of awkwardness at 00:15:820 Normal is a normal, that's how it is :P

  2. 00:40:620 (3) - Kinda weird that this is a straight edged curve while all the other 1/2 sliders are either straight or smoothly curved Small and quirky, just like the vocals.

  3. 01:10:220 (1) - Maybe change to a slider? IDK it just feels empty hereIt's fine imo.

  4. 01:18:220 (2) - NC because 1 is more of a pickup. And you have it as NC in Hard, Insane, and DiFf_(k)NAME
Advanced:
  1. 00:00:000 (0) - Just a note, this diff is a HUGE jump from Normal, especially considering the other diffs in the set and the differences between them. Maybe nerf a bit with self mods? I'd rather not tell you how to make it easier, just that it probably could stand with some nerfing. There's no helping it lol, it's fine as long as the spread goes in a mannered way.

  2. 00:24:420 (6) - This part feels very empty, while the music is just as dense as before, just with a different drum rhythm. Maybe change the rhythm to this or this? Your rhythm feel rather forceful than helpful, I like the current rhythm and prefer it as it goes really nice with the violin.

  3. 00:36:020 (3) - This looks hard to read for an Advanced level player because the stacking makes it look very connected the the 2 slider. Maybe play around with the angle?

  4. 01:18:220 (2) - Same as Normal
Hard:
  1. 00:40:420 (4) - I feel like this jump pattern could be very awkward for Hard level players, especially considering the more straightforward DS from Advanced that you used.
Really liked this diff :D

Insane:
  1. 00:51:420 (1) - I would separate 1 and 2 a little bit more because it just looks plain weird as it is :/ It's intentional as the real deal comes after the second note.

  2. 01:04:620 (5) - This too, it looks like 2 entirely disconnected patterns to me, and really confuses me when I'm trying to read it. I guess it is better than having just a run-of-the-mill 4 star insane diff lol I can't really agree, it seems completely fine and fun.


Sorry, I don't feel comfortable with my modding skill to attempt to mod the hardest diff :(

Really fun map/song, and sorry if my STD modding sucks XD

Yoges wrote:

M4M time. This might be a bit rushed because of your time limit (also the queue opened right before I had to go to bed).

[Normal]
  1. You have a lot of spacing errors. Check your Ai Mod. I can feel them during gameplay too. Some of the spacing seems misleading.
  2. 00:38:020 (1) - From here to 00:50:820 (4) - Is more intense than anything In the kiai. I'd suggest just using stuff like 1/1 sliders that have 1 repeat along with some normal sliders and notes. And also you could make the kiai a bit harder too. I can't really follow 1/4 instruments on a Normal so I mainly follow vocals here, this section ended being a bit harder than the kiai and it's completely fine as the kiai is more instrumental with held vocals, although I did nerf some parts here to get this diff under 2 stars again.
  3. 01:08:220 (1) - Rule of thumb, Don't have more than 1 repeat on easier diffs. If you do it tends to confuse newbies and throw them off. I really like those, I'll keep them for now.
  4. 01:13:020 (4) - ^
  5. 00:59:420 (1,2) - Why unstack the (1)? It can suggest to the player that the time between the (1) and the (2) is longer than the time between the (2) and the (3) when they're actually both the same. There were a few other notes like this I saw. Fix them too. I don't really want 3 stacked notes on a Normal, this is just fine imo.

[Advanced]
  1. 00:04:420 (1) - Remove the NC and put it on 00:05:620 (3) - Instead
  2. 00:07:020 (1) - Your NC spamming is a bit unnecessary. Remove NC on 00:07:020 (1) - , 00:09:620 (1) - & 00:07:820 (1) - and then add NC on 00:08:220 (2) -
  3. 00:33:020 (4) - I don't feel the shape fits the music. I don't hear anything sharp or drastic in the music to justify the pointyness of the slider. Just have it curved really. But I like it~ It's not precisely followed by the vocals but it goes really nicely.
  4. Your kiai suffers from the same issue as the normal. 00:12:420 (1) - That section is much more intense than the kiai. Refer to my comment there.
  5. 01:22:620 (3) - Similar to 00:33:020 - Why not just full spiral? Because it's ugly.

[Hard]
  1. 01:21:020 (7,8,1) - Stack that properly under the (5)
  2. Not much else I could find here. Maybe I could have done a better job if i were allowed a placeholder. C:

[Insane]
  1. 00:11:020 (2) - NCs on all SV changes. Also I don't think linear flow fits the music here. Try something like this?
  2. 00:33:220 (1,2) - Turn that into a spaced stack? I thought that was a slider instead of a note on a slider first time I saw it because of the speed the song was going at lol.
  3. 00:40:420 (3,4,1,2) - Similar shit but these are more excusable because the song is slower.
  4. 01:04:620 (1) - NC here

[DiFf_(k)NAME]
  1. Can't mod experts. Especially stream based ones.

kunkakunkakunkakunka wrote:

Hi.
From your Q~
General

  1. Tag: Please add 「opening」「tv size」
  2. I think that HP balance of all diff is not good. In addition, I think that advanced in particular and hard diff do not need same "4". I recommend this Too unforgiving for such high density map.
Normal

  1. I think that spacing is small to overall. I recommend DS1.2 Gotta hold on 'dat no more than 2 SR.
  2. 00:33:020 (4) - I can't recommend 2 reverse personally. You change it to 1 reverse, and would add circle? http://puu.sh/nyso6.jpg 01:08:220 (1) - same 01:13:020 (4) - same Same as said on previous mods.
  3. 00:43:820 (8) - Please revise distance (x1.21)
  4. 01:14:520 (1) - A end point thinks me to be 01:16:220 - Because, I think that 01:16:220 - is stronger in a sounds than 01:15:620 -
  5. 01:17:620 (1,2) - Would you change snap? I recommend that I pick up the sound of cymbals in snap. http://puu.sh/nytbp.jpg nah current one is cool
Advanced

  1. 00:33:020 (4) - 2 reverse. This recommends the change of contents same as normal diff. Same.
  2. 00:58:220 (3,4) - This overlap is difficult to play. Would you remove stack? For example http://puu.sh/nyulq.jpg
  3. 01:14:920 (1) - This recommends the change of contents same as normal diff.
  4. 01:17:620 (1,2) - ^ Same.
Hard

  1. 00:34:620 (5,1) - I felt a sense of incongruity in rhythm. try this pls http://puu.sh/nyuG9.jpg
  2. 00:35:620 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - I can't kinda recommend the stream of the hard diff. try this pls http://puu.sh/nyuO8.jpg Low spaced stream is just fine, it's pretty fun.
  3. 01:01:420 (2,3) - I felt a sense of incongruity in rhythm. I think that it is not necessary to pick up a sound of the 01:01:720 - . try this pls http://puu.sh/nyuZn.jpg
  4. 01:16:220 (2) - 2 reverse. This recommends the change of contents same as normal diff.
Same.
Because it is not enough mod tbh, I'm sorry. There isn't too time lol
GL ;)

Kihhou wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4949312 m4m

[Normal]
  1. 3.6 HP LOL not 3.5 but 3.6 looolgggggg```` nothing wrong with it i just wanna know why you have it like that hahaha Because I can :^)
  2. 00:18:620 (2,3,1) - for one of my old ranked maps, i got so much flame from #modhelp for making this different DS & same spacing in timeline on my lowest diff of the map. so a BAT popped til it was changed 100%. i dont know if standards are different now but watch out for that since it seems to be part of the style of the diff (was the same for mine). im just not sure after 1.5 years if thats changed.
  3. 01:14:520 (1) - uh lol ye same as advanced please
[Advanced]
  1. i dont get why advanced is suddenly CS 3.8. id understand if it was a part of the map where its consistent throughout all diffs like https://osu.ppy.sh/s/123839 but its just this one. raising CS from 3 only raises star rating by .1 and spread is fine even with this at CS 3. CS 3?
  2. 00:58:420 (4) - double overlaps here can be really confusing so how bout moving 4 so its easier to read for advanced people
  3. 01:14:920 (1) - the cymbal this ends at is a really weak one. its similar to the one at 01:15:020 - too. 01:16:220 - is where all instruments stop along with the strongest cymbal so it really does feel off ending early. so end it at 01:16:220 - pls ye?
  4. 01:17:620 (1,2,3) - this is actually really cool! i love it! such a sick rhythm for this part ~
[Hard]
  1. 00:40:820 (5,6,1,2,3) - i was trying to fix some spacing and aesthetics here but i thought "why not make it a pattern like the one you have at 00:44:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - .." so how bout something like having 00:41:220 (1,2,3) - as a mirror of 00:42:020 (4,5,6) -? im my example, 00:41:420 (2) - is stacked on 00:40:020 (3) - tail
[Insane]
  1. 00:10:620 (5,1) - i reaaaaaally think this needs to be spaced. neat pattern. doesnt fit the music well though. i need a hard hitting 00:10:820 (1) - :c
  2. 00:19:420 (5,1) - having one 1/2 spacing come out of nowhere is fine . but two consecutively really throws me off and doesnt fit the rest of the mapping style in this section. idk if its cuz you ran out of space or.. uh try this
  3. 00:24:020 (4,1) - i like to think im pretty damn good at reading at my skill level. this diff is below my skill level but damn is this pattern confusing!! even spacing between these three 00:24:020 (4,1,2) - make it so its hard to tell if 00:24:420 (1) - is on a white tick, but the main thing is that 00:24:020 (4) - this thing has two reverses on a short slider and 00:24:420 (1) - is at the top as if it continues off of 00:24:020 (4) - slider's 1 reverse. but it goes reverse again for the massive trickery what is this??!?!!11111 uh pls itd be nice if it was 1 reverse only and you can make it a 4 note stream before that reverse slider or something. just not this please lol
  4. 00:37:520 (2) - same as DiffFffFFNAME this is unnecessary and unfitting same reasons.
  5. 01:04:620 (5,6,7,8) - this drastic change of spacing and change of direction feels too difficult for an insane diff. like. the same part on DiFFffF NAME diff was easier than this imo. change 01:04:620 (5,6) - into a 1/4 slider? no t_t it's fine
  6. 01:21:820 (4,1) - why do you make this spacing so small ;-;
[DiFFFFFffFFffNAME]
  1. 00:05:020 (3,4,5) - consider making these notes not so equal spacing? i think itd be best to have 4 farther away from 3 and closer to 5 to emphasize the strong instrument at 00:05:420 (4) -. imo the pickup note on 00:05:620 (5) - is not very important so i think this would add a nice feel to the gameplay. something like this or some variation
  2. 00:08:220 (4) - i think ahving this as a 1/4 is excessive as im hearing in the music that the slight increase in tempo ends at 00:08:220 - rather than 00:08:420 - . so to mirror that, how about making 00:08:220 (4) - into a 1/2 slider and removing 00:08:420 (5) - ? like
  3. 00:10:820 (1,1,1,2) - same as 00:05:020 (3,4,5) - where i feel it would feel better if it had pairing rather than somewhat equal distances. itll also better accentuate the DS changes in your sliders. something like this?
  4. 00:18:820 (1,2) - space these out? the way it plays compared to the violin in the music seems unfitting, as its rather intensive here.
  5. 00:35:220 (3,4,1) - i think itd play a bit better if theres some disconnect between 4 and 1. right now, in gameplay, slider 3 rotates in to 4 and then into 1 rather quickly and too smoothly, so the player needs to slow down ontop of a 1/2 spacing and then that really removes the emphasis from 00:35:620 (1) -. uhhh so try something like this to capture the instant drums at 00:35:620 (1) - more and get a BAANGGG in your 00:35:220 (3,4,1) - (im assuming you want bang since thats the same as the spaced 00:35:820 (2,3,4,5) -) nice photo, regardless, changed.
  6. 00:37:520 (2) - this seems very unnecessary :c the music is still slowing down here. a lot more here too. raising the density would have the opposite effect soo... remove?
  7. 00:45:620 (2,3) - space this a bit? doesnt evne need to be a lot. just enough so that it doesnt feel like youre matching with 00:47:220 (3,4) - with the same stacking. b/c these are 2 very different parts in the song. Those stacks are completely different tho.. Each one for itself and it's fine.
  8. 00:58:620 (8,1,2) - uhhh i think you know the problem lol this stacking can be hard to read too and it doesnt match the style that youve mapped for this rhythm in the rest of the song
  9. 01:04:020 (2,3,4,1) - i get that youre trying to use a style that youve mapped earlier in this diff but it doesnt fit well with the music here and is different from 00:49:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and 00:51:420 (1,2,3,4,5) - . those two are constant buildups while 01:04:020 (2,3,4,1) - has emphasis on 01:04:220 (3) - right in the middle of the pattern. the flute is misleading as thats the only thing ramping up. so id suggest doing a different rhythm for 01:04:020 (2,3,4) - altogether, something that reflects the emphasis on 01:04:020 (2,3) - these two notes :P Vocals ramp up, it fits pretty well and there's nothing in the middle.
  10. 01:15:220 (1,2,3,4,1) - this is ridiculously difficult compared to the rest of the map but its not pressing i guess. more importantly, if you want to keep this pattern, could you please at least maintain the rotation that you had before so that its a lot easier to hit and smoother? hard jumps dont feel fitting here, relative to the rest of the map. so like thisss As many people want it changed, I've made some different 1/4 sliders pattern.
  11. 01:21:820 (4,1) - increase the distance between these? right now its soooo underwhelming. at 01:20:420 (4,5,6) - i was like yes yes!! jump jump! and then i get to 01:21:820 (4,1) - with loud cymbals and staccato guitar notes and the distance is just like. oh. huh. so to match that pls increase distance to like this or osmething

N0thingSpecial wrote:

AYY from my q

Normal
00:04:220 (3) - not sure that whistle was worth putting a slider end for since you're following the vocals. For that erm.. instrument.

00:08:220 (1,2,3) - This is still acceptable cause you have a best rest in between, but starting sliders on red ticks is not ideal here cause despite you're following the vocals, you're still starting and ending on the main beats for the past 8 seconds, so you now suddenly started on an off beat which will throw people off. I see but there are constant shifts in the song, and mapping the background instruments with the vocals like that is meh..

00:09:920 (1) - I think this spinner is a bit too short for new players to spin to despite low OD, replace it with a long slider?

00:13:420 (3,1,2) - sliders on red tick. The first one was still acceptable but this you need to fix cause there's not indication that it is going to start on red tick or a rest in between 1 beat gap, the indication is enough, the strong drums land on the red ticks.

00:17:220 (1) - not perfect blanket?

00:18:820 (4,1) - not sure why you suddenly stop following the violins Idk it feels wrong here.

00:20:220 (2,3,1) - might cause rage for different spacing

00:24:020 (5) - oh my, this part is tricky I don't how you can correctly represent the drum at this difficulty, cause the slider end feels really empty, and people will click 00:24:820 (6) - early cause of that Added a clap, it helps.

00:40:020 (2) - you suddenly stop here, I thought you're following the vocals ;-; I thought 00:40:420 (3) - this is going to be on the red tick and miss clicked it 2 early every time, use a 4/4 slider if you want Why would you think that with such spacing? The halt is to emphasize the vocals nicely.

01:14:520 (1) - make this spinner longer
Advance looks fine to me, and Hard is pretty good

Insane
00:19:220 (4,5,1,2) - being hard to read is fine but this is so clustered I thought they were 1/4 apart, until I open up editor and realize it is actual 1/2, space them out a bit more, especially when you have this before: 00:17:220 (1,2,3) - which kinda suggest that those four are 1/4 apart.

00:22:620 (4) - I would move this closer to 00:22:820 (1) - to represent the sharp pitch change in the violin

00:24:020 (4) - 2 reverse arrows are not recommended since you've never hinted it before hand

00:33:220 (1,2) - this is confusing, maybe space them out or NC 00:33:420 (2) -

00:52:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - firstly 00:52:420 (1) - people will expect fast pace cursor movement, or at the least movement, and the you have these two which is really unexpected and forces players to stop completely, and it is not a drastic change in direction of flow it's not really that justified, on the contrary 01:00:120 (6,7,1,2,3,4) - this is done well cause the music suggested there is a pause

01:04:420 (4,1) - space these two out, again confusing to read, I'm not the best at these types of map but this plays better? (not necessarily looks better but hey rough representation.) not really confusing, it's jsut fine..

01:11:020 (5,6) - same problem with forcing people to stop

01:11:420 (7) - this slider in of itself is stopping the motion of the cursor which really disrupt the flow, at least I can't hear anything that would suggest having to stop here, additionally the shape and size of it strongly suggest that it is a 1/4 slider so consider changing the shape also.

01:22:620 (1) - this looks great but there is this slight bump before the square which may mislead people to go clockwise instead of anti clockwise in the square

I'm too noob to mod DiFf_(k)NAME but I will say that it feels like it has the same problem with Insane in the chorus, it is mostly inconsistent spacing, try to have more repeating patterns so that players get to adjust to the tapping pattern before moving on to a different tapping pattern. ALSO 01:15:220 (1,2,3,4,1) - YOU WANT TO KILL MOUSE PLAYERS ;-; STOP REMINDING ME I'M A BAD PLAYER
Did not comment on stuff that I changed / fixed.
-Atri-
From your M4M queue, fuck the homeworks

[General]
  1. tbh, i think that you should remove some finishes, I hear some finishes that is put on somewhere that isn't too strong (ex. 00:15:620 - 00:17:220 - , I think some is fine, if you're using them for splitting parts, ex. 00:12:420 - 00:18:820 - , Which doesn't have cymbal sounds, but it's sounds more better for splitting long parts) , claps are quite messy, too, especially on easier diff, usually claps is for following the jumps, for this map, the claps are on almost every red ticks, yet isn't audible on the third white tick (example: 00:15:220 - , 00:16:820 - , 00:18:420 - )

[Normal]
  1. 00:09:820 (4) - I know you're mapping to the buildup at the background, but isn't it too odd to switch from following vocals too suddenly?
  2. 00:33:020 (4) - I think a 1/1 repeating slider - circle or 1/1 slider - 1/1 slider, making a repeating slider that repeats 2 times in a row might make it hard to read for newbies since they mainly focus on the slider ball and does not notice the return arrow that appears after clicking the head
  3. 00:38:020 (1) - I think this should curve upwards or make it points up, otherwise it will make it to crowded together and doesn't look great visually with 00:37:820 (3) -
  4. 01:02:620 (2) - I know this is mainly following the vocals, but this is poorly ignored the heavy beats at the background
  5. 01:08:220 (1) - same thing i mentioned at 00:33:020 (4) -
  6. 01:09:620 (2) - IDK does it unrankable, but i think that slider shouldn't end on downbeat, usually downbeat can be ignore if there's sudden stop in the music, or the previous red tick is stronger then the downbeat
  7. 01:13:020 (4) - same thing i mentioned at 00:33:020 (4) -
  8. 01:20:620 (5,6,7) - Isn't that is too much 1/2 notes for normal?
  9. 01:22:620 (1) - NC
    One thing that i noticed for this is way too focused on the vocals and ignore almost all the heavy beats, especially at the chorus part, the major example is 01:02:620 (2) - , which is poorly ignored the drum beats, which doesn't fits well

[Hard]
  1. 00:07:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Double triples might be too hard to hard diff, is 2 1/4 repeating slider okay?
  2. 00:11:020 (1,2,3) - Remove, i feel better if you ignore the vocals there
  3. 00:35:620 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Please, nerf the streams, the maximum notes of streams in hard is 5, you can choose either turn 00:35:620 (3,4,5) - into repeating slider or turn them into 2 repeating sliders
  4. 00:40:020 (3,4,5,6) - Not recommended to do back and fourth on hard, it is quite confusing for players
  5. 00:48:020 (2,3) - The maximum distance of jumps in Hard is 1.8 (?) , despite this is for symmetry patterns, the jumps is too large
  6. 00:50:620 (7,8) - ^

[Insane]
  1. 00:02:820 (1) - put further for emphasizing the finish?
  2. 00:11:020 (1,1,2) - Same as Hard, remove
  3. 00:13:820 (4,5) - I really love the symmetry pattern beforehand, but i feel it's way too forced to turn the flow there, I think 00:14:020 (1) - is more a fitting place to turn the flow
  4. 00:28:720 (2) - This slider is kinda burai, it's not crossing the path, but it almost act as the same function, yet this is agreed by someone (?)

  5. 01:04:020 (2,3,4) - Srsly? Is it really recognizable for 1/2 since you the same distance for 1/4 before?
  6. 01:11:420 (7) - burai

[DiFf_(k)NAME]
  1. Why not name it into AvIshaY's UlTra ImPosiible eskotgsejngesr
  2. 00:11:020 (1,1,2) - Same as hard, even you don't wanna remove them, at least make 00:11:020 (1) - into different SV, this slider has different SV than 00:10:820 (1) - , but has almost the same length, which can be confusing
  3. 00:12:320 (6) - A little bit Nazi, but it is not the same spacing as 00:12:220 (5,1) -

tbh, your slider art is better then me

Good luck~
-Atri-
sorry, i mean "following the drums" , not "following the jumps", hope it can be easier to consider as well
Topic Starter
Avishay

KuranteMelodii wrote:

From your M4M queue, fuck the homeworks

[General]
  1. tbh, i think that you should remove some finishes, I hear some finishes that is put on somewhere that isn't too strong (ex. 00:15:620 - 00:17:220 - , I think some is fine, if you're using them for splitting parts, ex. 00:12:420 - 00:18:820 - , Which doesn't have cymbal sounds, but it's sounds more better for splitting long parts) , claps are quite messy, too, especially on easier diff, usually claps is for following the jumps, for this map, the claps are on almost every red ticks, yet isn't audible on the third white tick (example: 00:15:220 - , 00:16:820 - , 00:18:420 - )

[Normal]
  1. 00:09:820 (4) - I know you're mapping to the buildup at the background, but isn't it too odd to switch from following vocals too suddenly?
  2. 00:33:020 (4) - I think a 1/1 repeating slider - circle or 1/1 slider - 1/1 slider, making a repeating slider that repeats 2 times in a row might make it hard to read for newbies since they mainly focus on the slider ball and does not notice the return arrow that appears after clicking the head As too many people mention those, I will change these sliders.
  3. 00:38:020 (1) - I think this should curve upwards or make it points up, otherwise it will make it to crowded together and doesn't look great visually with 00:37:820 (3) - It's just fine, I don't think it looks too crowded.
  4. 01:02:620 (2) - I know this is mainly following the vocals, but this is poorly ignored the heavy beats at the background Exactly, I follow vocals, I can't really follow the drums.
  5. 01:08:220 (1) - same thing i mentioned at 00:33:020 (4) -
  6. 01:09:620 (2) - IDK does it unrankable, but i think that slider shouldn't end on downbeat, usually downbeat can be ignore if there's sudden stop in the music, or the previous red tick is stronger then the downbeat Vocals.
  7. 01:13:020 (4) - same thing i mentioned at 00:33:020 (4) -
  8. 01:20:620 (5,6,7) - Isn't that is too much 1/2 notes for normal? Not really..
  9. 01:22:620 (1) - NC
    One thing that i noticed for this is way too focused on the vocals and ignore almost all the heavy beats, especially at the chorus part, the major example is 01:02:620 (2) - , which is poorly ignored the drum beats, which doesn't fits well I follow the vocals because I want to, especially in the lowest diff where I can't follow the instruments properly.

[Hard]
  1. 00:07:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Double triples might be too hard to hard diff, is 2 1/4 repeating slider okay? It's not really hard, however, I want to differentiate between the first triplet which has no vocal to the second one which has.
  2. 00:11:020 (1,2,3) - Remove, i feel better if you ignore the vocals there But there's nothing wrong with following vocals..
  3. 00:35:620 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Please, nerf the streams, the maximum notes of streams in hard is 5, you can choose either turn 00:35:620 (3,4,5) - into repeating slider or turn them into 2 repeating sliders Where is that written exactly? 150 bpm 7 note when the last one is a slider is not anything bad, especially with the slider in the end.
  4. 00:40:020 (3,4,5,6) - Not recommended to do back and fourth on hard, it is quite confusing for players I'll change it if it's mentioned again.
  5. 00:48:020 (2,3) - The maximum distance of jumps in Hard is 1.8 (?) , despite this is for symmetry patterns, the jumps is too large Why exactly are you saying that? There's no rules that say something like that, it's reasonable and it plays well.
  6. 00:50:620 (7,8) - ^ ^

[Insane]
  1. 00:02:820 (1) - put further for emphasizing the finish? Could do, but not a necessity.
  2. 00:11:020 (1,1,2) - Same as Hard, remove nah..
  3. 00:13:820 (4,5) - I really love the symmetry pattern beforehand, but i feel it's way too forced to turn the flow there, I think 00:14:020 (1) - is more a fitting place to turn the flow Could you please explain how the flow is forced to turn?
  4. 00:28:720 (2) - This slider is kinda burai, it's not crossing the path, but it almost act as the same function, yet this is agreed by someone (?)
    I can't really understand..
  5. 01:04:020 (2,3,4) - Srsly? Is it really recognizable for 1/2 since you the same distance for 1/4 before? Object density, SV, NC changes help.
  6. 01:11:420 (7) - burai I like it :3

[DiFf_(k)NAME]
  1. Why not name it into AvIshaY's UlTra ImPosiible eskotgsejngesr I can xd
  2. 00:11:020 (1,1,2) - Same as hard, even you don't wanna remove them, at least make 00:11:020 (1) - into different SV, this slider has different SV than 00:10:820 (1) - , but has almost the same length, which can be confusing But this is the whole gimmick and fun!
  3. 00:12:320 (6) - A little bit Nazi, but it is not the same spacing as 00:12:220 (5,1) -

tbh, your slider art is better then me Thanks :)

Good luck~
Thanks!
Yales
Hello! M4M (2) https://osu.ppy.sh/s/342030
[Normal]
  1. 00:04:220 (3) - Wouldn't it sound better if you extend it until 00:04:820 - to go along with the vocal?
  2. 00:19:020 (2) - The stack might be confusing here cause you didn't do it here 00:18:620 (3) -
  3. 00:32:620 (2,3,4) - ^ (You know it's still a bit taboo to stack on normal so changing ds like this might be way too confusing).
  4. 00:47:620 (1) - ^ Same here, the fact that the note is actually hidden might be really confusing for a beginner.
  5. 00:59:420 (1,2,3) - ^
  6. 01:20:620 (5,6,7,1) - ^
  7. 00:14:220 (2) - I'm not sure that put a slider on a red tick feels that catchy especially for a normal diff.
  8. 00:19:020 (2) - ^ (it would sound way better if you put it instead of 00:18:820 (1) -
  9. 00:22:020 (1) - Your comboing starts to be really inconsistant here (honnestly I find the part before has too many NC, it's a bit confusing).
  10. 00:37:220 (2,3,1,2,3) - I don't find your pattern that neat because the angle is too sharp 00:37:820 (3,1) - and 00:38:820 (3) - overlaps a bit randomly with 00:37:220 (2) - I mean it feels a bit too packed.
  11. 00:50:820 (4) - Add NC maybe, it's a strong note.
  12. 01:14:620 (1) - Put it on red tick to mind the gap. It's not as confusing as the end of a spinner but it's still lots of infromation at the same time.
  13. 01:19:420 (3) - Make it properly stack with the head of 01:19:420 (3) - so it will look better
Diff feels really really dense..
[Advanced]
  1. 00:23:620 (4) - I'd rather stacked properly or put it around x288y368 to make it more neat.
  2. 01:22:620 (3) - NC! It's total different rhythm. Nice shape btw
[Hard]
  1. 00:09:020 (7) - I'd add NC to make a clear difference with 00:07:820 (1) -
  2. 00:10:620 (3,1,2) - It would sound way more natural if you would shift those slider to the next white tick
  3. 01:08:620 (1) - This pattern combo is way too big compared to the previous/next ones. First off, I think NC goes here 01:08:220 (6) - instead of 01:08:620 (1) - then you could add one here 01:09:620 (4) - and you'll be good.
  4. 01:22:620 (3) - NC
[Insane]
  1. I'd rather see this rhythm instead: http://puu.sh/nEker/f29e413811.jpg Would be more accurate to the music.
  2. 00:33:220 (1) - Spacing makes it confusing x.x but well why not
  3. 01:10:920 (4,5,6) - ^
  4. 00:50:820 (8) - NC?
  5. 01:04:620 (1) - I'd actually remove NC here to add one here 01:04:820 (3) - to prevent new spacing. I think it would improve reading tbh.
[DiFf_(k)NAME]
  1. 00:43:520 - I'd add a note here, I don;t know it feels pretty strong.
  2. 01:01:320 (5,6,7) - Ye, I'm really not sure for those spacing :o I mean it's playable but it kills the movement..
Fun diff!
tochiii
Hello o/
m4m

  • DiFf_(k)NAME

  1. 00:04:020 (4) - I guess this isn't overmapped, but the sounds on the blue ticks are really low.
  2. 00:07:220 (5,1) - This jump is way to big for such a slow part. - 00:09:820 (1,2) - you didn't do it with other objects, so i really recommend you to make it more consistent with all the other objects by reducing the spacing.
  3. 00:11:020 (1,1) - I'm not sure about this one, it's not THAT spaced, but you could stick adjust it a bit. - Since it's a bit more intense part, you could let it be tbh.
  4. 00:12:320 (6) - NC? Would make it a bit more expected.
  5. 00:36:820 (1) - Ctrl+G would make a better flow.
  6. 00:40:620 (4,1) - Stack properly.
  7. 00:43:520 - Map to this sound? - since you mapped to this 00:43:820 (2,3) -
  8. 00:45:820 (3) - The repeat slider is out of place, and doesn't emphasize in the right way. You should make 00:46:020 - clickable, maybe do something like this: http://puu.sh/nEmuu/17e95b87f3.jpg
  9. 00:49:820 (3,5,7) - NC these to make the pattern more obvious.
  10. 01:04:020 (2,3) - This can be confusing for many players which leads to a misread, use NCs to make it more obvious, should work.
  11. 01:17:620 (1,1) - The spacing here is way too low if you still kept the earlier part like this, because since this part is more intense than the other it should be increased.


  • Insane

  1. 00:10:420 (4,5) - This is really confusing, please either don't stack them, or do something like: http://puu.sh/nEmRa/17eff82606.jpg
  2. 00:33:220 (1,2) - Opposite from the above, you should stack these to make it more obvious, people with think that it's a 1/4 double like 00:35:320 (3,4) -
  3. 00:45:820 (5) - I still think that you should make 00:46:020 - clickable since it's the strongest beat in this slider.
  4. 01:02:920 (5) - NC?
  5. 01:04:020 (2,3,4) - I kinda sense that it's intentional that you made the spacing here lower like the previous stream, but it would be easier to read if you added NCs on them.... actually maybe not.
  6. 01:04:820 (3) - this one should be NCed, same reason as the above, it will make it more easy to be expected.
  7. 01:12:520 (5,6) - Please stack them properly.
  8. 01:22:220 (1) - Try to curve it a little, but first do ctrl+g, and after the curve you should do ctrl+g again like: http://puu.sh/nEnjC/52ac76162d.jpg


  • Hard

  1. 00:12:820 (2,3,4) - Stack these properly.
  2. 00:45:220 (4) - You forgot to NC this.
  3. 01:05:820 (3) - Ctrl+g would also fit here.
  4. 01:13:020 (6,1) - Swap NCs, since the strong part of the vocal starts here 01:13:020 -


  • Advanced

  1. 00:37:020 (2,3) - Maybe blanket them properly? It would look better.
  2. I personally think that there's a bit too many triplets for an Advanced, trying to keep it more simple would work better. I mean, the easiest diff doesn't have any 1/4's at all, so reducing the triplets would be a better spread.


  • Normal

  1. 00:32:820 (3) - Stack this under this 00:32:620 (2) - instead? The way you did it is kinda too confusing for this diff.


  • Feedback


    Nice map, good luck!
Topic Starter
Avishay

Yales wrote:

Hello! M4M (2) https://osu.ppy.sh/s/342030
[Normal]
  1. 00:04:220 (3) - Wouldn't it sound better if you extend it until 00:04:820 - to go along with the vocal? I don't really want to ignore that instrument either..
  2. 00:19:020 (2) - The stack might be confusing here cause you didn't do it here 00:18:620 (3) -
  3. 00:32:620 (2,3,4) - ^ (You know it's still a bit taboo to stack on normal so changing ds like this might be way too confusing).
  4. 00:47:620 (1) - ^ Same here, the fact that the note is actually hidden might be really confusing for a beginner.
  5. 00:59:420 (1,2,3) - ^
  6. 01:20:620 (5,6,7,1) - ^ Fixed all of those weird spacings.
  7. 00:14:220 (2) - I'm not sure that put a slider on a red tick feels that catchy especially for a normal diff. That's the song, the strong claps land on the red ticks.
  8. 00:19:020 (2) - ^ (it would sound way better if you put it instead of 00:18:820 (1) - Not really.. nothing supports a 1/1 slider on the white tick.
  9. 00:22:020 (1) - Your comboing starts to be really inconsistant here (honnestly I find the part before has too many NC, it's a bit confusing).
  10. 00:37:220 (2,3,1,2,3) - I don't find your pattern that neat because the angle is too sharp 00:37:820 (3,1) - and 00:38:820 (3) - overlaps a bit randomly with 00:37:220 (2) - I mean it feels a bit too packed.
  11. 00:50:820 (4) - Add NC maybe, it's a strong note.
  12. 01:14:620 (1) - Put it on red tick to mind the gap. It's not as confusing as the end of a spinner but it's still lots of infromation at the same time. Blame the song, nothing I can really do.
  13. 01:19:420 (3) - Make it properly stack with the head of 01:19:420 (3) - so it will look better You probably meant 01:18:220 (1) - , but it's intentional.
Diff feels really really dense..
[Advanced]
  1. 00:23:620 (4) - I'd rather stacked properly or put it around x288y368 to make it more neat. Spacing tho..
  2. 01:22:620 (3) - NC! It's total different rhythm. Nice shape btw

[Hard]
  1. 00:09:020 (7) - I'd add NC to make a clear difference with 00:07:820 (1) -
  2. 00:10:620 (3,1,2) - It would sound way more natural if you would shift those slider to the next white tick I follow vocals >.>
  3. 01:08:620 (1) - This pattern combo is way too big compared to the previous/next ones. First off, I think NC goes here 01:08:220 (6) - instead of 01:08:620 (1) - then you could add one here 01:09:620 (4) - and you'll be good.
  4. 01:22:620 (3) - NC
[Insane]
  1. I'd rather see this rhythm instead: http://puu.sh/nEker/f29e413811.jpg Would be more accurate to the music. but where ._.
  2. 00:33:220 (1) - Spacing makes it confusing x.x but well why not
  3. 01:10:920 (4,5,6) - ^
  4. 00:50:820 (8) - NC?
  5. 01:04:620 (1) - I'd actually remove NC here to add one here 01:04:820 (3) - to prevent new spacing. I think it would improve reading tbh.
[DiFf_(k)NAME]
  1. 00:43:520 - I'd add a note here, I don;t know it feels pretty strong. I do use this note in the Insane but the rhythm and pattern in this is slightly different, I picked to not map that note here.
  2. 01:01:320 (5,6,7) - Ye, I'm really not sure for those spacing :o I mean it's playable but it kills the movement.. That's the purpose! It goes well with the song.
Fun diff!

-Tochi wrote:

Hello o/
m4m

  • DiFf_(k)NAME

  1. 00:04:020 (4) - I guess this isn't overmapped, but the sounds on the blue ticks are really low. It felt awkward a bit I know, turned out there isn't a note on the red tick, should be much better now.
  2. 00:07:220 (5,1) - This jump is way to big for such a slow part. - 00:09:820 (1,2) - you didn't do it with other objects, so i really recommend you to make it more consistent with all the other objects by reducing the spacing.
  3. 00:11:020 (1,1) - I'm not sure about this one, it's not THAT spaced, but you could stick adjust it a bit. - Since it's a bit more intense part, you could let it be tbh.
  4. 00:12:320 (6) - NC? Would make it a bit more expected. On that note? It looks awful, the song gets intenser with the stream and peaks at the slider, it's fine.
  5. 00:36:820 (1) - Ctrl+G would make a better flow.
  6. 00:40:620 (4,1) - Stack properly.
  7. 00:43:520 - Map to this sound? - since you mapped to this 00:43:820 (2,3) - Nah for the same reasons in the mod above.
  8. 00:45:820 (3) - The repeat slider is out of place, and doesn't emphasize in the right way. You should make 00:46:020 - clickable, maybe do something like this: http://puu.sh/nEmuu/17e95b87f3.jpg
  9. 00:49:820 (3,5,7) - NC these to make the pattern more obvious.
  10. 01:04:020 (2,3) - This can be confusing for many players which leads to a misread, use NCs to make it more obvious, should work.
  11. 01:17:620 (1,1) - The spacing here is way too low if you still kept the earlier part like this, because since this part is more intense than the other it should be increased.


  • Insane

  1. 00:10:420 (4,5) - This is really confusing, please either don't stack them, or do something like: http://puu.sh/nEmRa/17eff82606.jpg
  2. 00:33:220 (1,2) - Opposite from the above, you should stack these to make it more obvious, people with think that it's a 1/4 double like 00:35:320 (3,4) -
  3. 00:45:820 (5) - I still think that you should make 00:46:020 - clickable since it's the strongest beat in this slider.
  4. 01:02:920 (5) - NC?
  5. 01:04:020 (2,3,4) - I kinda sense that it's intentional that you made the spacing here lower like the previous stream, but it would be easier to read if you added NCs on them.... actually maybe not.
  6. 01:04:820 (3) - this one should be NCed, same reason as the above, it will make it more easy to be expected.
  7. 01:12:520 (5,6) - Please stack them properly.
  8. 01:22:220 (1) - Try to curve it a little, but first do ctrl+g, and after the curve you should do ctrl+g again like: http://puu.sh/nEnjC/52ac76162d.jpg


  • Hard

  1. 00:12:820 (2,3,4) - Stack these properly.
  2. 00:45:220 (4) - You forgot to NC this. No.. it's fine..
  3. 01:05:820 (3) - Ctrl+g would also fit here. Ruins movement into next pattern.
  4. 01:13:020 (6,1) - Swap NCs, since the strong part of the vocal starts here 01:13:020 -


  • Advanced

  1. 00:37:020 (2,3) - Maybe blanket them properly? It would look better.
  2. I personally think that there's a bit too many triplets for an Advanced, trying to keep it more simple would work better. I mean, the easiest diff doesn't have any 1/4's at all, so reducing the triplets would be a better spread. naaah, this is the point of difficulty shift.


  • Normal

  1. 00:32:820 (3) - Stack this under this 00:32:620 (2) - instead? The way you did it is kinda too confusing for this diff.


  • Feedback


    Nice map, good luck!
Thank you both! As usual, uncommented means changed in some way.
Spaghetti
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DiFf_(k)NAMEpoihj KJsbsjdl'[
00:08:820 (8) - this is 1/8
00:08:220 (4,5,6) - youre skipping beats on these blue ticks, but im only pointing it out cuz you complimented these quiet sounds at 00:04:120 (5) - so i guess consistency applies
00:09:820 (1) - maybe speed up to compliment the woosh buildup sound?
00:10:820 (1,1,1) - yeee i love this
00:35:420 (4,1) - since this section is so fast paced an continuous i think this rhythm gap is kinda awkward, a kickslider would fix it
00:37:620 (1,1) - spacing these closer together would reduce the drastic drop in spacing from this to 00:38:420 (2,1,2) - . I dont really see why the spacing drops so suddenly, especially in the middle of the section
01:04:020 (2,1) - this can be really easily misread as a double, id space it out a bit more
01:04:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - more gradual spacing would suit this better, i dont get why the stream spacing is constant till the last 3 notes
01:20:820 (6,7,8,1) - space the triple away from the circle a bit more for better emphasis?
01:22:620 (1) - DAMN SON

Insane:
00:02:620 (5,1) - I see the pattern ya got going here but i think itd be cooler if you spaced out this to give more emphasis to the vocals
00:04:020 (3,4) - ^
00:05:420 (3) - kickslider to circle would fit better to emphasize the vocals
00:19:420 (5,1) - ehh this rhythm gap sounds really weird but do what you want
00:21:020 (4,1) - ^
im not a big fan of the spacing you used for the extended sliders (example: 00:28:420 (1,2,3) - ) since it makes for a dull map, wouldnt you think it wouldve been better if you spaced them out a bit more?
00:37:620 (1) - ctrl g'ing this would add better emphasis to 00:38:020 (1) -
this section is very calm and full of motion from the 1/4 sliders, so i think itd be better if you spaced out 00:40:420 (3,4) - instead of making it a stack. the next one is fine tho cuz it adds a nice touch as a pickup note
00:51:420 (1,2,3,4,5) - I like the emphasis from 4 to 5, but i dont get why you decide to add a spacing increase pattern to build up to the kiai, when you lower the spacing at 00:52:020 (4,5) - arbitrarily, spacing this out would make much more sense
01:01:020 (4,5,6) - deadly spacing, this looks just like 01:00:520 (1,2,3,4) -
01:14:420 (6) - this would flow better ctrl g'd
01:17:020 (4) - this would play much better spaced out considering you spaced out 01:16:220 (2,3) - much more
01:22:620 (1) - DAMN SON

Hard:
00:02:420 (2,3) - space this out more for better emphasis?
00:44:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - i wouldnt do stacks like this on hards, theyre not readable to newer players :p
01:22:620 (1) - DAMN SON

Advanced:
01:22:620 (1) - DAMN SON

Normal:
00:08:220 (1) - starting a new section on an offbeat is very weird for newer players, id stack a circle over this sliderhead at the white tick before it to make this easier to play
00:40:020 (2,3) - weird rhythm gap, may cause some confusion but its your call
01:22:619 (1) - DAMN SON
GL~
Topic Starter
Avishay

Spaghetti wrote:

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DiFf_(k)NAMEpoihj KJsbsjdl'[
00:08:820 (8) - this is 1/8 fixed in other diffs too, tbh feels like mixture of both 1/12 and 1/8, but 1/8 definitely feels much better.
00:08:220 (4,5,6) - youre skipping beats on these blue ticks, but im only pointing it out cuz you complimented these quiet sounds at 00:04:120 (5) - so i guess consistency applies mapping all of the 1/4s makes the vocals feel lame.
00:09:820 (1) - maybe speed up to compliment the woosh buildup sound? there's no really buildup noticeable there, 00:09:820 (1) - is the beginning of it and I did increase the SV there.
00:10:820 (1,1,1) - yeee i love this yey♥
00:35:420 (4,1) - since this section is so fast paced an continuous i think this rhythm gap is kinda awkward, a kickslider would fix it
00:37:620 (1,1) - spacing these closer together would reduce the drastic drop in spacing from this to 00:38:420 (2,1,2) - . I dont really see why the spacing drops so suddenly, especially in the middle of the section the section is just mapped differently, the spacing increase at the beginning is to support the vocals.
01:04:020 (2,1) - this can be really easily misread as a double, id space it out a bit more
01:04:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - more gradual spacing would suit this better, i dont get why the stream spacing is constant till the last 3 notes
01:20:820 (6,7,8,1) - space the triple away from the circle a bit more for better emphasis?
01:22:620 (1) - DAMN SON

Insane:
00:02:620 (5,1) - I see the pattern ya got going here but i think itd be cooler if you spaced out this to give more emphasis to the vocals
00:04:020 (3,4) - ^ revised previous pattern but this is fine as there's nothing significant in the instruments
00:05:420 (3) - kickslider to circle would fit better to emphasize the vocals
00:19:420 (5,1) - ehh this rhythm gap sounds really weird but do what you want everything else feels like a bad tasted overmap
00:21:020 (4,1) - ^
im not a big fan of the spacing you used for the extended sliders (example: 00:28:420 (1,2,3) - ) since it makes for a dull map, wouldnt you think it wouldve been better if you spaced them out a bit more? it's kinda supposed to be like that, if someone else finds it a problem I'll most likely change it.
00:37:620 (1) - ctrl g'ing this would add better emphasis to 00:38:020 (1) -
this section is very calm and full of motion from the 1/4 sliders, so i think itd be better if you spaced out 00:40:420 (3,4) - instead of making it a stack. the next one is fine tho cuz it adds a nice touch as a pickup note
00:51:420 (1,2,3,4,5) - I like the emphasis from 4 to 5, but i dont get why you decide to add a spacing increase pattern to build up to the kiai, when you lower the spacing at 00:52:020 (4,5) - arbitrarily, spacing this out would make much more sense
01:01:020 (4,5,6) - deadly spacing, this looks just like 01:00:520 (1,2,3,4) -
01:14:420 (6) - this would flow better ctrl g'd
01:17:020 (4) - this would play much better spaced out considering you spaced out 01:16:220 (2,3) - much more
01:22:620 (1) - DAMN SON

Hard:
00:02:420 (2,3) - space this out more for better emphasis?
00:44:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - i wouldnt do stacks like this on hards, theyre not readable to newer players :p naaa it's fine, it's the whole pattern and it's repetitive
01:22:620 (1) - DAMN SON

Advanced:
01:22:620 (1) - DAMN SON

Normal:
00:08:220 (1) - starting a new section on an offbeat is very weird for newer players, id stack a circle over this sliderhead at the white tick before it to make this easier to play having a circle before is even more awkward, let's accept the song and move on
00:40:020 (2,3) - weird rhythm gap, may cause some confusion but its your call intentional :s
01:22:619 (1) - DAMN SON
GL~
DAMN SON

okay I better take care of my mods now
Rizen
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23:29 Rizen: would u like the mod now or after u applie current ones?
23:29 Rizen: nvm
23:30 Avishay: ;p
23:30 Rizen: mind if i irc?
23:30 Rizen: I only have half an hour left today and won't be loggin on for 2 days after
23:30 Avishay: erm alright
23:31 Rizen: ok
23:31 *Rizen is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/921369 (K)NoW_NAME - Knew day [Normal]]
23:31 Rizen: I went through the comboing quickly and it looks like it's kinda inconsistent
23:31 Rizen: afaik, it's best to keep comboing in easier diffs consistent
23:32 Avishay: erm, I'll go through it later then
23:32 Rizen: i.e. 00:25:220 (1,2,3,1,2,1) -
23:32 Rizen: following that pattern, 00:30:020 (4) - should be NC'd
23:32 Rizen: so just go through the comboing again
23:32 Rizen: that ends the NC part, lol
23:33 Rizen: 00:18:220 (5,6) - maybe repeating slider 5 would suit it better
23:34 Rizen: it'll decrease object density, and would go well with the violin swings
23:35 Avishay: yeah it does
23:36 Rizen: 00:46:420 (2,3) - try ctrl+g'ing the rhythm
23:36 Rizen: so it's slider then circle
23:36 Rizen: that's because the vocals at 00:46:420 (2) - is kinda similar to vocals at 00:46:020 (1) -
23:37 Rizen: and vocals at 00:46:820 (3) - is kinda pausesish
23:37 Avishay: cool
23:38 Rizen: so about this song
23:38 Rizen: the vocalist sings the chorus high points 1/1 before downbeats
23:38 Rizen: instrument downbeats*
23:38 Rizen: e.g. 00:53:820 (4,1) -
23:38 Rizen: so i think swapping comboing there would work better
23:38 Rizen: because 00:53:820 (4) - is stronger than 00:54:420 (1) -
23:39 Avishay: you're right, I wasn't really sure where I should put those because usually you need to follow the downbeats
23:39 Rizen: again at 00:53:820 (4,1) -
23:39 Rizen: so apply those for the rest mm
23:40 Rizen: 01:02:620 (2,1) - is this a break in DS i see?
23:41 Avishay: oops
23:41 Rizen: 01:12:620 (2,3,4,5,6) - this pattern could be a lot neater imo
23:42 Rizen: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/p45JKdW.jpg
23:42 Avishay: the only thing you changed it the shape of the second slider?
23:43 Avishay: ah
23:43 Avishay: the consecutive notes' placement too
23:43 Rizen: [https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/puGD1Fh.jpg before]
23:43 Rizen: so it goes in like a circular pattern
23:45 Rizen: ok carrying on
23:45 *Rizen is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/921634 (K)NoW_NAME - Knew day [Advanced]]
23:46 Rizen: about comboing for the first part at 00:02:820 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) -
23:46 Avishay: did the same thing with NCs on advanced
23:46 Rizen: ok
23:46 Rizen: next point, lol
23:47 Avishay: wait, I was talking about the NCs at the kiai
23:47 Rizen: missed NC at 00:23:620 (4) - maybe
23:47 Rizen: oh
23:47 Avishay: what did you want to say about those in the beginning?
23:47 Rizen: try NCing only the following for beginning part
23:47 Rizen: 00:02:820 (1) -
23:47 Rizen: 00:04:420 (1) -
23:47 Rizen: 00:05:820 (1) -
23:47 Rizen: 00:07:820 (1) -
23:47 Rizen: 00:09:020 (1) -
23:48 Rizen: works better imo
23:48 Rizen: try ctrl+g'ing the rhythm at 00:17:220 (1,2) -
23:49 Rizen: less stain to go to slider than circle after a triple
23:49 Rizen: also makes the "clap" white tick clickable
23:50 Avishay: but the clap is on the red tick >.>
23:50 Avishay: if the claps landed on the white ticks then sure
23:50 Rizen: whoops
23:50 Rizen: im deaf
23:50 Rizen: mmm
23:50 Rizen: forget that
23:51 Rizen: then maybe at 00:22:020 (1,2) -
23:51 Rizen: actually
23:51 Rizen: ignore that one too
23:51 Rizen: it'll make it too difficult
23:53 Rizen: 00:33:020 (4,5) - maybe align these horizontally
23:53 Rizen: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/8JxB30l.png
23:53 Rizen: because right now, it just seems kinda sloppy imo
23:53 Rizen: but that could just be a personal thing so mm..
23:53 Avishay: spacing is a bitch ::<
23:54 Avishay: actually
23:54 Avishay: I got it
23:55 Rizen: 00:36:820 (1) - change to finish instead of clap
23:55 Rizen: and slider head of 00:37:620 (3) - to clap instead of finish
23:56 Rizen: cymbals in music is at 00:36:820 (1) -
23:56 Rizen: and no cymbals at 00:37:620 (3) -
23:57 Avishay: it doesn't really sound well
23:57 Avishay: 00:36:820 (1) - there is not cumbal here
23:57 Avishay: cymbal*
23:57 Avishay: no*
23:58 Avishay: and the finish is appropriate on the place it is
00:00 Rizen: i still disagree with that tbh, but i'll just move on (finish where it is right now seems kinda weird for me)
00:03 Rizen: I think 01:14:720 (5) - is overmapped?
00:04 Avishay: some really low violin there
00:04 Rizen: a circle could be added at 01:00:920 - , which would level off the difficulties between both kiais
00:05 Rizen: and there's a sound to map there
00:05 Avishay: indeed
00:06 Rizen: ok about 01:14:620 (4) - , maybe a repeat slider would fit it better
00:06 Rizen: would ease the transition to the spinner
00:07 Avishay: peak of the kiai, doesn't really seem reasonable
00:09 Rizen: 01:17:620 (1) - maybe a 3/4 slider then circle on downbeat?
00:09 Rizen: imo, advanced is hard enough for that
00:10 Avishay: for an advanced? eghh
00:10 Avishay: regardless this rhythm sounds and plays realyl well
00:10 Rizen: mm ok
00:10 Rizen: i'll move on to next diff before i run out of time zz
00:11 Rizen: oh
00:11 Rizen: advanced circle size is 3.5 but hard circle size is 3?
00:11 Avishay: yeah
00:12 Rizen: can i hear the reason for that? ;d
00:13 Avishay: nothing interesting lol, as Hard introduces even harder rhythms I wanted to keep the spread somewhat reasonable with decreasing the CS
00:13 Rizen: mm
00:14 Rizen: ok i'll just move to next point i guess
00:14 Rizen: is there a missing whistle on 00:20:020 (6) - ?
00:14 Avishay: o ye
00:14 Avishay: I'll fix it in other diffsto
00:14 Avishay: o
00:14 Rizen: ok
00:16 Rizen: tbh, i don't really approve of the pattern at 00:31:620 (1,2,3) -
00:16 Rizen: slider 3 is "hidden" by slider 2
00:17 Rizen: not to mention the DS severely decreases compared to before
00:18 Avishay: alright
00:19 Rizen: an alternative could be something like [https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/pOMh9Bs.jpg this]
00:20 Rizen: but you'll probably come up with something better
00:22 Rizen: spacing consistency though at the part at 00:37:820 (6,1) -
00:22 Rizen: so at 00:37:820 (6,1) - , downbeat is spaced
00:22 Rizen: but then 00:41:620 (3,4) - is spaced
00:23 Rizen: [https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/Jtd0eKU.jpg try this maybe] at 00:40:020 (3,4,5,6,1) -
00:24 Rizen: too many NCs at 00:49:420 (1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1) - mmm
00:25 Avishay: ncs are on purpose :P
00:25 Rizen: why not 00:49:420 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ?
00:25 Avishay: look at the higher diffs and you'll understand
00:25 Avishay: it is just that the spacing increases
00:26 Rizen: yeah but I don't really think NC spam on a hard is necessary
00:26 Rizen: u only really see that on higher diffs
00:26 Rizen: ok moving on
00:28 Avishay: as for the downbeat part, I'll leaveit as it is now, vocal just feel different and the whole section too, I might find something more consistent to do later
00:28 Rizen: following the spacing at 00:57:220 (1,2) - , which is increased because of clap, it would mean 00:58:020 (6,7) - should be more spaced too
00:28 Avishay: the back and forth movement is giving the emphasization here
00:28 Rizen: second part may be following vocals but i think it's best to follow only drums or vocals in such a short time
00:28 Avishay: and yes it does follow vocals too
00:29 Rizen: mm ok
00:29 Rizen: carrying on
00:31 Rizen: smoothing out 01:10:620 (4) - would be a good idea imo
00:31 Rizen: right now it's kinda squished up
00:31 Rizen: and would also be easier for players to know it's a slider and not circles
00:31 Avishay: alright
00:31 Rizen: [https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/jo4JyMp.png like this]
00:32 Rizen: 01:14:420 (1) - NC maybe
00:33 Rizen: 01:22:620 (1) - nice slider
00:33 Avishay: trying my best on those xd
00:34 Rizen: 01:16:220 (2) - I wouldn't really recommend using a twice repeat slider
00:34 Rizen: those are really old fashioned lately
00:34 Rizen: and because uhh
00:34 Rizen: hold on
00:35 Rizen: majority of other sliders in diff repeat once
00:35 Avishay: yeah but this is special
00:35 Rizen: also swap NCs at 01:19:420 (5,1) -
00:35 Avishay: vv
00:35 Rizen: if special, make it look better please mmmmm
00:36 Avishay: zzzz
00:36 Rizen: because it's like juuuust not symmetrical
00:36 Avishay: okay
00:36 Avishay: you're right lol
00:36 Rizen: sliders at 01:18:620 (3,5) - could have more curve
00:37 Rizen: [https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/ipa5TDB.png go hard or go home]
00:37 Avishay: oki
00:37 Rizen: okkk
00:37 *Rizen is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/921368 (K)NoW_NAME - Knew day [Insane]]
00:38 Rizen: 00:02:220 (3,4) - switch positions maybe?
00:38 Rizen: plays better imo
00:39 Rizen: because currently it's like a trapezium flow
00:39 Avishay: I've had that before
00:39 Avishay: actually
00:39 Rizen: why change? x.x
00:39 Avishay: because I wanted to emphasize thes lider mroe xd
00:40 Avishay: but nvm I'll revert it
00:40 Rizen: I would move 00:10:620 (5) - somewhere else
00:40 Rizen: like stacking tail of 00:09:220 (1) -
00:41 Rizen: it would make 00:10:620 (5,1) - movement smoother
00:41 Avishay: alrighty
00:44 Rizen: 00:40:621 (4) - I would make this two circles instead
00:45 Rizen: to make vocals and clap clickable
00:46 Rizen: [https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/Zdccoc5.png pattern maybe like this]
00:46 Avishay: cool
00:46 Rizen: if u apply that, do to 00:47:020 (4) - too maybe
00:48 Rizen: 01:01:020 (4,5) - such a large spacing change mmm
00:49 Avishay: it was smaller but the 1/2 gap hmm
00:50 Rizen: mm
00:50 Rizen: could u change the slider shape of 01:01:520 (6) - though?
00:50 Rizen: or at least ease the angle
00:51 Avishay: yeah
00:51 Rizen: [https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/dEd3apH.jpg like this]
00:52 Rizen: 01:02:920 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this pattern can be incredibly confusing!
00:52 Avishay: that's the purpose lol, but AR and NC help fairly
00:52 Rizen: mm
00:53 Rizen: could try moving 01:04:020 (2) - to x192 y63
00:53 Rizen: but if u like the current, is ok
00:53 Avishay: actually I like your suggested placement a lot
00:54 Rizen: oooeee
00:54 Rizen: 01:04:620 (5,1) - try swapping NC's here
00:54 Rizen: spacings at 01:04:420 (4,1,2) - look too similar to each other imo
00:54 Avishay: it was like that at the beginning
00:54 Avishay: but people suggested I do that
00:55 Rizen: then maybe move 01:04:720 (6) - closer to previous circle 5?
00:55 Rizen: so it acts as a bit like a propeller
00:56 Rizen: and so people will be less confused with 01:04:420 (4,5,6) - spacings
00:56 Rizen: [https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/4DXbASv.png like this]
00:56 Avishay: looks awkward
00:56 Avishay: and even more confusing
00:56 Avishay: current one is okay
00:56 Rizen: ok
00:56 Rizen: 01:08:220 (7,1) - swap NCs
00:57 Rizen: same thing about NCs as mentioned earlier
00:57 Rizen: in kiai times
00:58 Avishay: ye ye
00:58 Avishay: will go over it
00:59 Rizen: yeah that's all i suppose for insane
00:59 Rizen: alternative maps mmmm
00:59 Avishay: blame 150bpm lel
01:00 Rizen: and damn it's 1am where i am already
01:00 Rizen: I was meant to sleep at 12am zzz...
01:00 Avishay: :<
01:00 Rizen: i need to
01:00 Rizen: gym tomorrow
01:00 Avishay: well just go to sleep
01:00 Rizen: I had a breakdown today
01:00 Rizen: from stress
01:00 Rizen: mm..
01:03 Rizen: looks mostly fine tbh for an alternative extra
01:03 Rizen: but try 01:21:020 (7,8,1) - ctrl+g
01:03 Rizen: then ctrl+g 01:21:420 (2,3) -
01:04 Rizen: and maybe rearrange 01:21:020 (7,8,1) -
01:04 Avishay: yeah I was just about to say that lol
Fookiz

Avishay wrote:

KuranteMelodii wrote:

tbh, your slider art is better then me Thanks :)
ehm ehm
Topic Starter
Avishay

Fookiezi wrote:

ehm ehm
^ ye this guy did tidy up a bit some sliders ^
Shiirn
Suggestions
Major suggestions
Unrankable issues

I will be modding the topmost difficulty downwards.

DiFf_(k)NAME
  1. 00:08:820 (8) - Remove the final kick so that the transition to the new slider is more comfortable.
  2. 00:12:020 (3,4,5,6) - Space these out evenly, the music doesn't warrant any real spacing changes between these 1/4. You can keep them spaced, just keep it consistent.
  3. 00:16:020 (3) - Try as I might i don't know what this whistle is trying to do. Put it on the start if nothing else? It might be an oversight while trying to have a softwhistle here. you might need to custom the normal sampleset's whistle. :P
  4. 00:33:020 (1) - Really sounds like it should be two circles instead. You can even space them out.
  5. 01:15:020 (2) - I'm down for the rest of the map, but this particular slider is a massive spike in spacing that I disagree with.

Insane
  1. 00:15:920 (2) - normal whistle that seems out of place
  2. 00:33:220 (1,2) - Manually stack

Hard
  1. 01:10:220 (2,3,4) - This felt extremely hard to read, I know you generally stick to the stacking for these but maybe just for this one space it out a bit.
  2. 01:21:020 (8,9,1) - Maybe continue the stacking underneath the previous (6?)


Found nothing worth mentioning in Advanced or Normal.
Shushan
[hard]
00:09:620 (1) - i feel like that this note should be less emphasized.
00:10:620 (3,1) - swap nc?
00:20:220 (7,1) - ^^ for consistency
00:24:320 (3) - you should move this to here 00:24:420 i think it'll sound better
01:22:220 (2) - ehh it might be only me but i'd nc that
01:22:620 (1) - damn
[insane]
00:04:220 (4,1) - swap nc?
00:05:820 (6,1) - ^^
00:10:620 (5,1) - ^^
00:24:620 - missed a vocal here, do something like in hard(what i suggested)
00:41:120 - note here for triplet?
01:22:620 (1) - damn
[DiFf_(k)NAME]
01:06:420 (7,1) - bad flow for me i'd change it
how forgot how bad i am at modding
Nozhomi
M4M. Finally this song o:

- Normal :

  1. 00:05:620 (3,4,5,6) - Ow damn I would see so much a symmetric pattern here ;w; the flow could be so good http://puu.sh/nK18c/1ecd959c57.jpg .
  2. 01:04:220 (2,3) - Maybe change them for a reverse, tbh it would fit more the vocal here and reduce object density on this break between two kiai.
  3. 01:18:220 (1,3) - It would maybe be better to stack them and avoid this uhhhhh overlap not so good.
  4. 01:22:619 (1) - Not 100% sure if it's a good slider for a Normal, could be a little too hard maybe.

- Advanced :

  1. 00:07:820 (1) - Tbh I would change angle of this one to be parallel to 00:07:220 (3) - , but you have to move 00:07:820 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - then and maybe it destroy your pattern so like you want (http://puu.sh/nK5eI/f9045bd322.jpg).
  2. 00:09:020 (1) - I don't think 1/8 fit an Advanced diff. A 1/4 reverse fit so much better vocal who is dominant on this part.
  3. 00:15:220 (4) - Could you avoid to use a different number of reverse arrows on this section ? It too sudden and players won't be able to say if it's a 1 or 2 reverse arrow here. Same for 00:21:620 (4) - .
  4. Overall, I think you could reduce the amount of triplet on this section (00:25:220 - -> 00:50:820 - ), it's almost like there is more triplet than kiai, and that's way too much for an Advanced. That's not a Hard diff.

- Hard :

  1. OD6.5 would balance more the spread imo. Also what happend with CS ? Lower than Advanced ? Pls go for something between 3.5 and 4.
  2. 00:06:620 (3,5) - I don't really like the overlap here, could be a little too hard to read. It would be perfect to stack it with 00:06:220 (2) - for flow and overall movement with 00:06:620 (3,4) - .
  3. 00:12:020 (4) - For this diff too, I suggest you to avoid different reverse slider lenght on this part, it's still a Hard diff so try to avoid difficult readable stuff.
  4. 00:18:220 (5,2) - Why not stack them ? The overlap looks quite bad imo.
  5. 00:35:620 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is no. Way too hard for this kind of diff. Change it for a long or two reverse sliders.
  6. 00:49:420 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Cool pattern, but I expect this on an Insane imo. If you reduce the global spacing of this and do NC this way (http://puu.sh/nKbjo/883ebd4e59.jpg) I think it could me more acceptable.

- Insane :

  1. CS4 maybe ? Would fit more an Insane.
  2. 00:43:820 (6,7,8) - There is no different of power between this one and 00:43:420 (3,4,5) - . They're the same, so use same spacing here.
  3. 00:52:820 (3,4) - The movement to the right combined to this jump and the dense rhythm feels unconfortable to play here. I would see more a smoother flow for this one, because the next movement with 00:53:520 (5) - is quite rough too.

- DiFf_(k)NAME :

  1. So I guess diffname is a ref to the name of the song, but I don't really like it tbh. And my brain won't find smth nice fuck me ;w;
  2. 00:12:020 (3,4,5,6,1) - What about making this spacing progressive, as the music gain in power with the violin ?
  3. 00:44:420 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - I don't think you should put a so high spacing here, simply because it's way too different from the first part you did from 00:38:020 - . The music, the rhythm and the power of this part is the same for both, so I think you should follow the same system for both and not just throw jumps here.
  4. 00:53:320 (5) - What about this http://puu.sh/nKgAU/254a0c8497.jpg ? I think using a smooth flow could help this strong and dense kiai.
  5. 00:54:420 (3,4) - I understand the jump, but not how you force this movement to the left. The only solution I find is that http://puu.sh/nKidE/b5aa8e9ec1.jpg but if you have better feel free.

Metadata : http://knowname.jp/discography/ (seems it's good).
Was fun to play with HD (except fuck these spaced stream). Quite cool. Maybe try to find one or two more mods for nazi things and call me back.
Mukyu~
Topic Starter
Avishay

Nozhomi wrote:

M4M. Finally this song o:

- Normal :

  1. 00:05:620 (3,4,5,6) - Ow damn I would see so much a symmetric pattern here ;w; the flow could be so good http://puu.sh/nK18c/1ecd959c57.jpg . Sure.
  2. 01:04:220 (2,3) - Maybe change them for a reverse, tbh it would fit more the vocal here and reduce object density on this break between two kiai. I find current pattern more fitting to the vocals and it's fine as the only 1/2 circle in this little section.
  3. 01:18:220 (1,3) - It would maybe be better to stack them and avoid this uhhhhh overlap not so good. okay ._.
  4. 01:22:619 (1) - Not 100% sure if it's a good slider for a Normal, could be a little too hard maybe. erm doubtful, have seen many long sliders on normal / lower diffs with harder movements, this is pretty straightforward and I don't really want to have a spinner there

- Advanced :

  1. 00:07:820 (1) - Tbh I would change angle of this one to be parallel to 00:07:220 (3) - , but you have to move 00:07:820 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - then and maybe it destroy your pattern so like you want (http://puu.sh/nK5eI/f9045bd322.jpg). Instead I changed the previous slider for a nicer transition/
  2. 00:09:020 (1) - I don't think 1/8 fit an Advanced diff. A 1/4 reverse fit so much better vocal who is dominant on this part. I agree.
  3. 00:15:220 (4) - Could you avoid to use a different number of reverse arrows on this section ? It too sudden and players won't be able to say if it's a 1 or 2 reverse arrow here. Same for 00:21:620 (4) - . That's not really hard to tell with the spacing, one reverse are spaced up like 00:12:820 (2) - 00:16:020 (2) - but the two reverse sliders are overlapping with the next sliders, and it goes really well with the song.
  4. Overall, I think you could reduce the amount of triplet on this section (00:25:220 - -> 00:50:820 - ), it's almost like there is more triplet than kiai, and that's way too much for an Advanced. That's not a Hard diff. There are none after 00:36:820 (1) - and there are only 4 triplets that are mapped to a certain pattern / rhythm here. It's not overdone and I feel it is completely fine for an Advanced with such a song, I should also note that the kaii might seem less intense because I mostly followed the held vocals there rather than the instruments, which are mostly spammy with a 1/4 snap diviso, which is not appropriate for a low diff such as this.

- Hard :

  1. OD6.5 would balance more the spread imo. Okay Also what happend with CS ? Lower than Advanced ? Pls go for something between 3.5 and 4. I don't think having linear CS spread is a must, I chose using CS3 on hard to soften the spacing and difficulty between the Hard and the Advanced difficulty. It's pretty fun nontheless, CS is not a big factor, but it's helping eitherway.
  2. 00:06:620 (3,5) - I don't really like the overlap here, could be a little too hard to read. It would be perfect to stack it with 00:06:220 (2) - for flow and overall movement with 00:06:620 (3,4) - . Yeah but it clutters up with the slider, done but changed slider shape a bit.
  3. 00:12:020 (4) - For this diff too, I suggest you to avoid different reverse slider lenght on this part, it's still a Hard diff so try to avoid difficult readable stuff. Same claim as on prev diff, I can't quite agree as the spacing helps distinguish between those, they are perfectly done with the music.
  4. 00:18:220 (5,2) - Why not stack them ? The overlap looks quite bad imo. vv
  5. 00:35:620 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is no. Way too hard for this kind of diff. Change it for a long or two reverse sliders. okay.. two sliders of one reverse are terrible so I did two circles and a slider.
  6. 00:49:420 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Cool pattern, but I expect this on an Insane imo. If you reduce the global spacing of this and do NC this way (http://puu.sh/nKbjo/883ebd4e59.jpg) I think it could me more acceptable. I was suggested this kind of NC pattern before, and I guess it goes well as those are pairs indeed, as for the spacing, this is exactly why I used CS3, it compensates for the spacing and helps, so I'll leave it the way it is now.

- Insane :

  1. CS4 maybe ? Would fit more an Insane. A bit too hard for such mapped diff, 150bpm single tapping is not forgiving.
  2. 00:43:820 (6,7,8) - There is no different of power between this one and 00:43:420 (3,4,5) - . They're the same, so use same spacing here. There is, please listen closely, the instruments on the second triplet are stronger than on the first one.
  3. 00:52:820 (3,4) - The movement to the right combined to this jump and the dense rhythm feels unconfortable to play here. I would see more a smoother flow for this one, because the next movement with 00:53:520 (5) - is quite rough too. Made it more intuitive and nicely, for both.

- DiFf_(k)NAME :

  1. So I guess diffname is a ref to the name of the song, but I don't really like it tbh. And my brain won't find smth nice fuck me ;w; ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  2. 00:12:020 (3,4,5,6,1) - What about making this spacing progressive, as the music gain in power with the violin ? I tried, it doesn't work.
  3. 00:44:420 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - I don't think you should put a so high spacing here, simply because it's way too different from the first part you did from 00:38:020 - . The music, the rhythm and the power of this part is the same for both, so I think you should follow the same system for both and not just throw jumps here. This whole section could be cut into 3 sub-sections 1. 00:38:020 (1) - 00:40:620 (4) - 2. 00:41:220 (1) - 00:44:020 (4) - 3. 00:44:420 (1) - 00:47:420 (5) -. Now, I did try to think what to do here before mapping, after some thought I came to the conculsions that the first 2 subsections are a buildup as the third subsections immediately gets transitioned into the more intense section (00:47:620 (1) - ), therefore I decided that the first pair of sections will mirror each other, and then with the triplet 00:43:820 (2,3,4) -, the vocals and music become slightly more intense, and this is why I mapped the third subsection differently. If you listen closely you'll hear that at the first 2 subsections the vocal is really soft compared to the one after the triplet. tl;dr - I don't think they are the same sections music-wise.
  4. 00:53:320 (5) - What about this http://puu.sh/nKgAU/254a0c8497.jpg ? I think using a smooth flow could help this strong and dense kiai. Cool, made something almost identical, it clearly helps.
  5. 00:54:420 (3,4) - I understand the jump, but not how you force this movement to the left. The only solution I find is that http://puu.sh/nKidE/b5aa8e9ec1.jpg but if you have better feel free. It's quite fun, not forceful, but the main thing is that after the left movement the slider quickly moves to the right and then goes to the left again and it's really fun.

Metadata : http://knowname.jp/discography/ (seems it's good).
Was fun to play with HD (except fuck these spaced stream). Quite cool. Maybe try to find one or two more mods for nazi things and call me back.
Mukyu~
Thanks!
Battle
y is the m4m map a starred map lol

[Normal]
00:36:620 (1,2) - Maybe make parallel cuz visuals
00:43:820 (4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Consider breaking this up somewhere, it's REALLY dense at this part, and like, someone is bound to stumble on it
00:48:020 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - Not nearly as severe, but still something to look out for, a suggestion to break it up could be at 00:49:020 (5) - where you can just replace it with single taps on the head and end
00:59:820 (3,4) - Flow break kinda feels awk here

[Advanced]
wow that escalated quickly, guess i shouldn't say anything tho since it's starred but like wow, that's a lot of 1/4 introduced lol
00:26:420 (3) - Maybe remove clap, the over-abundance of claps kinda take away from the music, it's a really loud custom hitsound lol
00:28:020 (4) - Same, I think it should just have claps on red ticks, sounds a lot cleaner and consistent that way, i dunno what you should replace the hitsound on here with though, it feels empty without one lol you should apply this to all the things cuz like, those claps really don't feel nice
why is the start the most intense part of the song lol, it has so much 1/4 used while the kiai has what I expected zz

[Hard]
The hard has smaller cs than advanced wh it's basically easier than advanced lol
00:09:020 (1) - Why 1/8 here? It's just a held vocal
00:10:820 - I dunno, the kinda thud that this sound makes in the music makes it so that it's pretty unsatisfying imo to have it just on a slider end
00:26:420 (4) - same hitsounding thing like advanced applies, all the claps take away from the consistent feeling rhythm of having them on red ticks imo
01:20:620 (6,8,9,1) - Maybe make stacke less awkward? 6 is slightly off from the stack so like, it kinda ruins how clean it could be

[Insane]
00:08:820 (5) - mmm
00:35:620 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - This is real insane for an insane wowo
00:38:020 (1,2) - If you have 00:39:220 (4) - spaced far cuz clap, why not make 2 spaced far cuz clap?
01:02:920 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Real insane, just tone down just like, a little bit lol
01:04:820 (1,2,3,4,1) - like this lol, this is good spacing that isn't extremely insane

[creative name]
00:08:820 (8) - I still don't understand the 1/8 here lol
looks good, hitsounds feel nice on this diff since the beat in constant lol

is this a spandex anime im so confused
Topic Starter
Avishay

Battle wrote:

y is the m4m map a starred map lol

Nozhomi wrote:

Maybe try to find one or two more mods for nazi things and call me back.
Mukyu~
[Normal]
00:36:620 (1,2) - Maybe make parallel cuz visuals Slight degree change is cool too.
00:43:820 (4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Consider breaking this up somewhere, it's REALLY dense at this part, and like, someone is bound to stumble on it that's pretty much 00:45:220 (3) -'s job, vocals are building up like hell and are really intense before the kiai, I don't want to complete kill them.
00:48:020 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - Not nearly as severe, but still something to look out for, a suggestion to break it up could be at 00:49:020 (5) - where you can just replace it with single taps on the head and end naa, I want this section to be held as much as possible with the vocals, it's not that bad.
00:59:820 (3,4) - Flow break kinda feels awk here oh

[Advanced]
wow that escalated quickly, guess i shouldn't say anything tho since it's starred but like wow, that's a lot of 1/4 introduced lol advanced shit bro
00:26:420 (3) - Maybe remove clap, the over-abundance of claps kinda take away from the music, it's a really loud custom hitsound lol
00:28:020 (4) - Same, I think it should just have claps on red ticks, sounds a lot cleaner and consistent that way, i dunno what you should replace the hitsound on here with though, it feels empty without one lol you should apply this to all the things cuz like, those claps really don't feel nice I see where you are coming from, but it feels empty without it indeed, I couldn't find an appropriate in-between hitsound so I used the same clap, it works really well at the hardest diff and maybe less on the others, if someone else notes it as a relatively major issue I will try harder to make something different.
why is the start the most intense part of the song lol, it has so much 1/4 used while the kiai has what I expected zz beginning = instrumental (mainlly violin) intensity, kiai = vocal intensity with overdone instrumental intensity which I can't follow

[Hard]
The hard has smaller cs than advanced wh it's basically easier than advanced lol read my response on nozhomi's hard mod
00:09:020 (1) - Why 1/8 here? It's just a held vocal because of some 1/8 instrument there.
00:10:820 - I dunno, the kinda thud that this sound makes in the music makes it so that it's pretty unsatisfying imo to have it just on a slider end yeah it's a real pain with the vocals, but honestly it's completely fine as I mostly just follow the vocals, and the finish get's its' emphasis from the long movement of 00:09:820 (2) - and then a quick transition into a short slider and BAM!
00:26:420 (4) - same hitsounding thing like advanced applies, all the claps take away from the consistent feeling rhythm of having them on red ticks imo same stuff about advanced too, but honestly here it is simply better because it is more dense so the claps are not so pressured
01:20:620 (6,8,9,1) - Maybe make stacke less awkward? 6 is slightly off from the stack so like, it kinda ruins how clean it could be #blameshiirn, dunno why I did it, forgot about stack leniency, fixed

[Insane]
00:08:820 (5) - mmm listen on 25% PBR plz
00:35:620 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - This is real insane for an insane wowo 150bpm sooooo fast
00:38:020 (1,2) - If you have 00:39:220 (4) - spaced far cuz clap, why not make 2 spaced far cuz clap? cuz it's an escalating pattern, should be quite obvious :\
01:02:920 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Real insane, just tone down just like, a little bit lol nooooooo it ruins everything else if I do that, and that's quite good, I know 150bpm is real fast but still, belivu
01:04:820 (1,2,3,4,1) - like this lol, this is good spacing that isn't extremely insane it's cuz drums are less intense here and are supposed to build up into the next kiai part

[creative name]
00:08:820 (8) - I still don't understand the 1/8 here lol listen on 25% PBR plz
looks good, hitsounds feel nice on this diff since the beat in constant lol ♥

is this a spandex anime im so confused
I didn't even watch this animu I don't know but it's most likely someone's fetish

<3
Battle
all that red breaks my kokoro tbh www
Topic Starter
Avishay

Battle wrote:

all that red breaks my kokoro tbh www
red is love ♥
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZMNyIN4HpI
pishifat

Avishay wrote:

Decent formatting in your mod post is viewed positively.
u did this to yourself

NORMAL
thE diFficUlty itSeLf is k but wAy tOo deNse foR tHe loWest diFf:(
lIke reAlly yOu nEed An eaSy, eVeN iF it woUlD mEan uNdeRmaPping a loT oF tHe reD tiCk snArEs aNd nOisE spAm StuFf
oH aNd soMe hItSouNds (wHiCh woUld bE on aLl diFfs i guESs):
01:18:620 (2) - miSsinG fiNish or soMEthing liKe 01:21:820 (2) -
01:04:220 (2) - sAMe soRta ThiNg lIkE 01:02:620 (2) -
00:49:020 (5) - fiNisH>clAp tbH muSiC

ADVANCED
00:22:020 (1,2,3) - sUpeR miNor buT dUnNo hoW intEntiOnal tHe swiTchiNg to 1.5x sPaCinG waS hEre sInCe evEryThiNg iS 1.4 in thE seCtiOn anD muSIc is SameEe

HARD
thE

INSANE
00:08:820 (5) - sHoulD pRobAblY gEt riD oF thAt LasT rEpeaT likE You diD wiTh tHe exTra. i tHinK yoU dId iT on tHe upPer diFf for lEnienCy whEn moViNg to tHe neXt NoTe, buT lenIenCy froM juSt ClicKinG is A tHinG toO (espEciaLly WhEn lOts of pEoPle tRy To siNglEtaP stuFf liKe tHis soMeHoW)
01:02:620 (4,1) - pLeAse yoUr cuRreNt plAceMent Is makIng iT seEm liKe strEam sTarTs At 01:02:920 (1) - wHich iT Um doESnt
seParAtiNg 4 And 1 spaCing wIsE adDs to The wHat Too
aNd bLue TicK nEw cOmBoinG wiThOut inDiCatIve sPacIng is LikE noT idEaL SinCe coMboINg asSisTS reAdiNg bY alWAys hAvIng tHem StaRt oN wHitE/redzZzzZZZz tHiS wAs oN tEe Bn tEst YOu alrEadY KnOw iT
ooOOo aND tHe SamE thIng hapPeNs on eXtrA pLs


EXTRA!!!!
00:01:820 (1,1) - sV indICaTinG tHe bUilD uP woUlD Be coOl
00:40:420 (3) - sOmeThiNg tO MaKe pEoplE knOw thIs iS aCtuAlLy haLviNg in sPEed wOulD bE o K
00:19:420 (5,1) - 00:21:020 (4,1) - aSsuMinG yOu ReaD tHe raNt oN inSanE u kNow wHaT i WanT to SAy. sWaPpinG nCs wOulD mAke TheSe Not GroSs
01:15:220 (1,2,3,4,1) - UM wouLd haVe moRe oF a bUilD up eFfeCt iF yOu aCtualLy sTartEd wIth NoT-huGe sPaCIng. bEginNing wItH yoUr pReViouS usUaL 1/4 sPacInG 01:14:420 (7,8,1) - thEn goiNg Up frOm thEre Is liKe "wOah It'S geTtiNg faSTeR"" RatHer thAn "woAh iT's FasT" yeS
01:18:620 (3) - sHouLd ReaLly hAve SomE sOrT oF emPhaSis To hEre:(

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/414289 i have to apply handsome's mod and do some timing thing but after that $$$$$$$
Battle
yiiiiiiiiikes
Monstrata

pishifat wrote:

Avishay wrote:

Decent formatting in your mod post is viewed positively.
u did this to yourself

NORMALthE diFficUlty itSeLf is k but wAy tOo deNse foR tHe loWest diFf:(lIke reAlly yOu nEed An eaSy, eVeN iF it woUlD mEan uNdeRmaPping a loT oF tHe reD tiCk snArEs aNd nOisE spAm StuFfoH aNd soMe hItSouNds (wHiCh woUld bE on aLl diFfs i guESs):01:18:620 (2) - miSsinG fiNish or soMEthing liKe 01:21:820 (2) - 01:04:220 (2) - sAMe soRta ThiNg lIkE 01:02:620 (2) - 00:49:020 (5) - fiNisH>clAp tbH muSiC ADVANCED00:22:020 (1,2,3) - sUpeR miNor buT dUnNo hoW intEntiOnal tHe swiTchiNg to 1.5x sPaCinG waS hEre sInCe evEryThiNg iS 1.4 in thE seCtiOn anD muSIc is SameEeHARDthEINSANE00:08:820 (5) - sHoulD pRobAblY gEt riD oF thAt LasT rEpeaT likE You diD wiTh tHe exTra. i tHinK yoU dId iT on tHe upPer diFf for lEnienCy whEn moViNg to tHe neXt NoTe, buT lenIenCy froM juSt ClicKinG is A tHinG toO (espEciaLly WhEn lOts of pEoPle tRy To siNglEtaP stuFf liKe tHis soMeHoW)01:02:620 (4,1) - pLeAse yoUr cuRreNt plAceMent Is makIng iT seEm liKe strEam sTarTs At 01:02:920 (1) - wHich iT Um doESntseParAtiNg 4 And 1 spaCing wIsE adDs to The wHat TooaNd bLue TicK nEw cOmBoinG wiThOut inDiCatIve sPacIng is LikE noT idEaL SinCe coMboINg asSisTS reAdiNg bY alWAys hAvIng tHem StaRt oN wHitE/redzZzzZZZz tHiS wAs oN tEe Bn tEst YOu alrEadY KnOw iTooOOo aND tHe SamE thIng hapPeNs on eXtrA pLsEXTRA!!!!00:01:820 (1,1) - sV indICaTinG tHe bUilD uP woUlD Be coOl00:40:420 (3) - sOmeThiNg tO MaKe pEoplE knOw thIs iS aCtuAlLy haLviNg in sPEed wOulD bE o K00:19:420 (5,1) - 00:21:020 (4,1) - aSsuMinG yOu ReaD tHe raNt oN inSanE u kNow wHaT i WanT to SAy. sWaPpinG nCs wOulD mAke TheSe Not GroSs01:15:220 (1,2,3,4,1) - UM wouLd haVe moRe oF a bUilD up eFfeCt iF yOu aCtualLy sTartEd wIth NoT-huGe sPaCIng. bEginNing wItH yoUr pReViouS usUaL 1/4 sPacInG 01:14:420 (7,8,1) - thEn goiNg Up frOm thEre Is liKe "wOah It'S geTtiNg faSTeR"" RatHer thAn "woAh iT's FasT" yeS01:18:620 (3) - sHouLd ReaLly hAve SomE sOrT oF emPhaSis To hEre:(https://osu.ppy.sh/s/414289 i have to apply handsome's mod and do some timing thing but after that $$$$$$$
Fixed It for you pishi
Topic Starter
Avishay

pishifat wrote:

Avishay wrote:

Decent formatting in your mod post is viewed positively.
u did this to yourself

NORMAL
thE diFficUlty itSeLf is k but wAy tOo deNse foR tHe loWest diFf:(
lIke reAlly yOu nEed An eaSy, eVeN iF it woUlD mEan uNdeRmaPping a loT oF tHe reD tiCk snArEs aNd nOisE spAm StuFf no plz dont i love my family, i'll be ashamed if i do something like dis
oH aNd soMe hItSouNds (wHiCh woUld bE on aLl diFfs i guESs):
01:18:620 (2) - miSsinG fiNish or soMEthing liKe 01:21:820 (2) - FINISH SPAM YEE
01:04:220 (2) - sAMe soRta ThiNg lIkE 01:02:620 (2) - normal clap ok
00:49:020 (5) - fiNisH>clAp tbH muSiC yuss

ADVANCED
00:22:020 (1,2,3) - sUpeR miNor buT dUnNo hoW intEntiOnal tHe swiTchiNg to 1.5x sPaCinG waS hEre sInCe evEryThiNg iS 1.4 in thE seCtiOn anD muSIc is SameEe oops

HARD
thE

INSANE
00:08:820 (5) - sHoulD pRobAblY gEt riD oF thAt LasT rEpeaT likE You diD wiTh tHe exTra. i tHinK yoU dId iT on tHe upPer diFf for lEnienCy whEn moViNg to tHe neXt NoTe, buT lenIenCy froM juSt ClicKinG is A tHinG toO (espEciaLly WhEn lOts of pEoPle tRy To siNglEtaP stuFf liKe tHis soMeHoW) yes maam
01:02:620 (4,1) - pLeAse yoUr cuRreNt plAceMent Is makIng iT seEm liKe strEam sTarTs At 01:02:920 (1) - wHich iT Um doESnt
seParAtiNg 4 And 1 spaCing wIsE adDs to The wHat Too oh I should have toned it down in batt's mod
aNd bLue TicK nEw cOmBoinG wiThOut inDiCatIve sPacIng is LikE noT idEaL SinCe coMboINg asSisTS reAdiNg bY alWAys hAvIng tHem StaRt oN wHitE/redzZzzZZZz tHiS wAs oN tEe Bn tEst YOu alrEadY KnOw iT
ooOOo aND tHe SamE thIng hapPeNs on eXtrA pLs yes um I NC like this sometimes since I can't NC the sliderend, it doesn't do shit with reading and it's fine, if there'a a reason for a NC on blue tick, then it'll be here, it's unavoiable in such songs, I looked at other similar maps and they do it too


EXTRA!!!!
00:01:820 (1,1) - sV indICaTinG tHe bUilD uP woUlD Be coOl i fkn swear i had sometin like dat before, added
00:40:420 (3) - sOmeThiNg tO MaKe pEoplE knOw thIs iS aCtuAlLy haLviNg in sPEed wOulD bE o K k
00:19:420 (5,1) - 00:21:020 (4,1) - aSsuMinG yOu ReaD tHe raNt oN inSanE u kNow wHaT i WanT to SAy. sWaPpinG nCs wOulD mAke TheSe Not GroSs but song supports those ;;
01:15:220 (1,2,3,4,1) - UM wouLd haVe moRe oF a bUilD up eFfeCt iF yOu aCtualLy sTartEd wIth NoT-huGe sPaCIng. bEginNing wItH yoUr pReViouS usUaL 1/4 sPacInG 01:14:420 (7,8,1) - thEn goiNg Up frOm thEre Is liKe "wOah It'S geTtiNg faSTeR"" RatHer thAn "woAh iT's FasT" cool, okayyeS
01:18:620 (3) - sHouLd ReaLly hAve SomE sOrT oF emPhaSis To hEre:( got'ya buddy

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/414289 i have to apply handsome's mod and do some timing thing but after that $$$$$$$ plzcallmeimnostalker
tanks♥
Lasse
p/4971560

General

  1. normal hitclap has like 1.5ms of delay => http://puu.sh/nKRv5/6f91d166fd.wav
  2. normal-hitfinish2 is pretty llong (around 7 seconds) and over 1mb, consider cutting it since the last seconds are like completely silent
  3. seems fine besides that


extra

  1. 00:04:420 (1) - tried extending this to 3/4? the vocals continue and the sound on it is pretty much equally strong as red tick
    00:07:920 (2) - is pretty similar and not ignored
    00:11:020 (1) - I just had this hitsound around from hitsounding sth I'm working on, could fit really nice on the sliderhead http://puu.sh/nKQOA/784d66234a.wav
    00:18:620 (4) - since this doesnt have to be followed anyways, maybe go for the same shape as the other two? sth like http://i.imgur.com/GicpmAH.jpg would look nice imo
    00:27:420 (3,6) - http://i.imgur.com/XXxMQ24.jpg it's visible during gameplay and easy to fix
  2. 00:31:220 (6,7,1) - http://i.imgur.com/vVnhIBR.jpg ends up playing like this => obtuse angle + lowering spacing. easiest solution would be moving 00:31:620 (1,2) - up
  3. 00:49:420 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - needs pp jumps xd
  4. chorus looks solid



insane

  1. 00:19:420 (5) - movement would be nicer if you moved it left for a more acute angle, something like stacking the tail under 00:18:620 (5) - head could be nice
  2. 00:24:320 (1) - sth like http://i.imgur.com/Phuzvs1.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/bXrndLy.jpg would fit the rhythm/sounds here better imo
  3. 00:33:020 (7,2) - http://i.imgur.com/dqF8ESM.jpg :(

Hard

  1. 00:09:020 (1) - 1/8 slider really needed for hard? 1/4 would be okay too
  2. 00:36:220 (6) - shouldnt nc be here instead of 00:36:820 (1) - according to your overall patterning and the music?
  3. 00:37:420 (4,5,6,1) - movement could be nicer since you pretty much stop in the middle of something that's nearly a straight line
  4. 00:40:620 (4,5,6) - perfect stack repeating back and forth doesnt seem that great to read for a hard
  5. 01:20:620 (6,8,9,1) - autostacking kills this http://i.imgur.com/hAhpdQX.jpg


advanced

  1. 00:38:020 - piano that leads into new section would feel way better if clickable


normal

  1. just use hp 3.5, no other diff has those weird decimal settings
  2. 00:53:620 (3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - alternating between spaced 1/2 circle and stacked one here might be a bit confusing for newer players
  3. feels a little bit dense for a lowest diff at some points, but since the bpm is quite low it can work fine I suppose

mostly minor stuff, lol
gl
Topic Starter
Avishay

Lasse wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4971560

General

  1. normal hitclap has like 1.5ms of delay => http://puu.sh/nKRv5/6f91d166fd.wav
  2. normal-hitfinish2 is pretty llong (around 7 seconds) and over 1mb, consider cutting it since the last seconds are like completely silent
  3. seems fine besides that fixed both ^


extra

  1. 00:04:420 (1) - tried extending this to 3/4? the vocals continue and the sound on it is pretty much equally strong as red tick yeah it's good, used to be a triplet there and deleted it because it was awful actually it's terrible, I can't stand hearing the instrument when the slider is sliding
    00:07:920 (2) - is pretty similar and not ignored
    00:11:020 (1) - I just had this hitsound around from hitsounding sth I'm working on, could fit really nice on the sliderhead http://puu.sh/nKQOA/784d66234a.wav It doesn't really fit, like I see the similarity but it is drummish and that doesn't sound too well.
    00:18:620 (4) - since this doesnt have to be followed anyways, maybe go for the same shape as the other two? sth like http://i.imgur.com/GicpmAH.jpg would look nice imo cool
    00:27:420 (3,6) - http://i.imgur.com/XXxMQ24.jpg it's visible during gameplay and easy to fix
  2. 00:31:220 (6,7,1) - http://i.imgur.com/vVnhIBR.jpg ends up playing like this => obtuse angle + lowering spacing. easiest solution would be moving 00:31:620 (1,2) - up alright I don't mind
  3. 00:49:420 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - needs pp jumps xd if this map ends up giving good pp I am a potato
  4. chorus looks solid



insane

  1. 00:19:420 (5) - movement would be nicer if you moved it left for a more acute angle, something like stacking the tail under 00:18:620 (5) - head could be nice moved a bit to the left, but not as far as you suggested
  2. 00:24:320 (1) - sth like http://i.imgur.com/Phuzvs1.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/bXrndLy.jpg would fit the rhythm/sounds here better imo nmh I like current one
  3. 00:33:020 (7,2) - http://i.imgur.com/dqF8ESM.jpg :( god damnit

Hard

  1. 00:09:020 (1) - 1/8 slider really needed for hard? 1/4 would be okay too it's never needed, but it fits.
  2. 00:36:220 (6) - shouldnt nc be here instead of 00:36:820 (1) - according to your overall patterning and the music? ops
  3. 00:37:420 (4,5,6,1) - movement could be nicer since you pretty much stop in the middle of something that's nearly a straight line but it's not ._. the stop is for the vocal and jump afterwards
  4. 00:40:620 (4,5,6) - perfect stack repeating back and forth doesnt seem that great to read for a hard mh changed to a triangle, should be easier to read
  5. 01:20:620 (6,8,9,1) - autostacking kills this http://i.imgur.com/hAhpdQX.jpg FIXED AT LAST


advanced

  1. 00:38:020 - piano that leads into new section would feel way better if clickable yeah but it ruins all of the other patterns so I'll pass ._.


normal

  1. just use hp 3.5, no other diff has those weird decimal settings FINE
  2. 00:53:620 (3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - alternating between spaced 1/2 circle and stacked one here might be a bit confusing for newer players I'm doing it for the sake of variety and the fact that 00:54:620 (3) - has a really strong vocal and I didn't really want to stack it. It seems cool so I'll keep it
  3. feels a little bit dense for a lowest diff at some points, but since the bpm is quite low it can work fine I suppose

mostly minor stuff, lol
gl
spanku♥
Topic Starter
Avishay

ohad1881 wrote:

[hard]
00:09:620 (1) - i feel like that this note should be less emphasized.
00:10:620 (3,1) - swap nc? no.. cuz of finish
00:20:220 (7,1) - ^^ for consistency same
00:24:320 (3) - you should move this to here 00:24:420 i think it'll sound better blame the song
01:22:220 (2) - ehh it might be only me but i'd nc that naaa
01:22:620 (1) - damn daniel
[insane]
00:04:220 (4,1) - swap nc?
00:05:820 (6,1) - ^^
00:10:620 (5,1) - ^^ na
00:24:620 - missed a vocal here, do something like in hard(what i suggested) no vocals here, listen to the instruments.
00:41:120 - note here for triplet?
01:22:620 (1) - damn daniel
[DiFf_(k)NAME]
01:06:420 (7,1) - bad flow for me i'd change it it;s cool
how forgot how bad i am at modding
;; <3
Battle
sikkk double posttsst!11111
Nozhomi
the irc baguette check
2016-03-18 16:42 Nozhomi: hm
2016-03-18 16:42 Nozhomi: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/921369 (K)NoW_NAME - Knew day [Normal]]
2016-03-18 16:42 Avishay: wpp
2016-03-18 16:42 Avishay: woo
2016-03-18 16:42 Avishay: I'm ready\
2016-03-18 16:42 Nozhomi: 00:20:420 (4) - dat Normal clap I don't understand it
2016-03-18 16:44 Avishay: it's simply copied from the highest diff ._.
2016-03-18 16:44 Avishay: and it goes quite well with the drum, doesn't iot?
2016-03-18 16:44 Avishay: it*
2016-03-18 16:44 Nozhomi: sounds so weird on Normal lol
2016-03-18 16:45 Nozhomi: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/921634 (K)NoW_NAME - Knew day [Advanced]]
2016-03-18 16:45 Nozhomi: 00:55:420 (1,3) - I don't think it should cover the reverse arrow
2016-03-18 16:45 Nozhomi: :c
2016-03-18 16:46 Avishay: oh
2016-03-18 16:46 Avishay: it really shouldn't lol
2016-03-18 16:46 Nozhomi: ^^
2016-03-18 16:52 Avishay: god I can't find a decent pattern for the advanced fiff
2016-03-18 16:52 Avishay: diff*
2016-03-18 16:52 Nozhomi: sad because I think that's the only thing left to do lol
2016-03-18 16:58 Avishay: okay at last something that flows decently
2016-03-18 16:58 Avishay: updated
2016-03-18 17:00 Nozhomi: cool let me see
2016-03-18 17:01 Nozhomi: meh now it's the overlap between 00:56:220 (3,2) - who looks meh
2016-03-18 17:01 Nozhomi: XD
2016-03-18 17:02 Avishay: the overlap is not thaaaat bad
2016-03-18 17:02 Nozhomi: pls ;w;
2016-03-18 17:02 Avishay: THEN HELP ME
2016-03-18 17:02 Nozhomi: k
2016-03-18 17:03 Nozhomi: http://puu.sh/nL4Fu/5d7cd305e2.jpg ?
2016-03-18 17:03 Nozhomi: flow for 00:56:220 (3,1) - and 00:57:620 (2,3) - could be nice like that
2016-03-18 17:04 Nozhomi: and no more overlap :>
2016-03-18 17:04 Avishay: oh I didn't think about chaing the slider afterwards
2016-03-18 17:04 Avishay: lemme try
2016-03-18 17:05 Avishay: ok pretty cool will update
2016-03-18 17:06 Avishay: done
2016-03-18 17:08 Nozhomi: OK

Should be good now.
Bubbled~ good luck
riffy
Normal is absolutely inappropriate as the easiest difficulty of the set. Its long 1/2 chains combined with rather intense settings and stacks make it unplayable to beginners. Consider making an Easy?
Topic Starter
Avishay
Guess I'll have to map an Easy first.
meii18
Greeting Avishay! Unfortunately I will pop the bubble for some concerns in the higher difficulty

[DiFf_(k)NAME]
  1. I'm not really familiar with the name of this difficulty.I know you can name the higher difficulty how you wish but this kind of name..I have concerns about it and I fell that it couldn't be acceptable.Maybe name to something to make refference to the song or to the anime or name it simply to Extra
  2. 00:09:820(1)- Seems that the slider ends on nothing because i can't really hear nothing on 1/4 tick,even if there is an extend.Moreover,on the 1/2 tick ( before that 1/4 tick) sounds more like a piano which is ignored so why you don't end the slider on the 1/2 tick to emphasize the piano?
  3. 00:13:020(4,1)- The rhythm sounds a bit weird here because on (4) is a high pitch of the violin and then it follows an extend of it which it isn't emphasized really well in my opinion.I would prefer to make (4) into 1/2 slider to follow the extend of the violin more better in my point of view.Also i guess you have to delete (1) since after (4) would be the notes
  4. 00:14:720(5)- Here isn't supposed the circle to emphasize both the high pitch of the violin plus the extending of it?Making this note into a slider or deleting it and moving the next slider to this point and snapping its tail back to the 1/2 tick would emphasize the extending of the violin too
  5. 00:16:320(5)- Same here I think.You are not starting the violin really well here so why yo don't make (5) from circle into a slider or deleting it and moving the next slider to this point?
  6. 00:49:420(1,1,1,1,1,1)- Honestly saying,here the music still going and there's no any reset of the vocals nor of the instruments so I guess you don't have reasons to overuse the NCs here
  7. 00:53:320(5)- This note doesn't seems overmapped?On this 1/4 tick there's no any beat here nor any violin or piano etc.I would like to delete this note and extending the previous slider to this 1/4 tick or leaving as it is if there the vocals are not extending.Same goes for:
  8. 00:55:720(2)-
  9. 00:56:520(6)-
  10. 01:02:320(2)-
  11. 01:05:520(2)-
  12. 01:06:120(4)-
  13. 01:11:720(2)-
  14. 01:15:620(1)- The tail of this slider isn't stacked really well with 01:15:020(2)-.For fixing the stack with that slider,you just have to move this slider to 322|55
That must be all for the higher difficulty!
Popped the bubble since I had concerns about the rhythm here mostly.Moreover,talking about mp3 you have to cut that strange sound from the end of the mp3 because it comes from the beginning of the song and it doesn't make part of the original one as I listened it (confirmed with another QAT about it)
Call me back after the issues are adressed (and after an Easy difficulty will be mapped) so I will check the whole mapset after.
Good luck for now!
Topic Starter
Avishay

ByBy13 wrote:

Greeting Avishay! Unfortunately I will pop the bubble for some concerns in the higher difficulty

[DiFf_(k)NAME]
  1. I'm not really familiar with the name of this difficulty.I know you can name the higher difficulty how you wish but this kind of name..I have concerns about it and I fell that it couldn't be acceptable.Maybe name to something to make refference to the song or to the anime or name it simply to Extra It is a word play with "diff" and the song title :P
  2. 00:09:820(1)- Seems that the slider ends on nothing because i can't really hear nothing on 1/4 tick,even if there is an extend.Moreover,on the 1/2 tick ( before that 1/4 tick) sounds more like a piano which is ignored so why you don't end the slider on the 1/2 tick to emphasize the piano? I see where you are coming from, but it's the purpose of the slider, to be held with the weird sound in the background and then to get cut by the vocal. The piano is barely heard and snapping the slider to 1/2 ruins the intensity of the upcoming vocals.
  3. 00:13:020(4,1)- The rhythm sounds a bit weird here because on (4) is a high pitch of the violin and then it follows an extend of it which it isn't emphasized really well in my opinion.I would prefer to make (4) into 1/2 slider to follow the extend of the violin more better in my point of view.Also i guess you have to delete (1) since after (4) would be the notes The violin is not really held there, it immediately stops after the sliderend of 4, which is a violin, the next slider hits the drum. Extending it to 1/2 would make it really awkward as it will ignore the violin that it current lands on.
  4. 00:14:720(5)- Here isn't supposed the circle to emphasize both the high pitch of the violin plus the extending of it?Making this note into a slider or deleting it and moving the next slider to this point and snapping its tail back to the 1/2 tick would emphasize the extending of the violin too If the violin is held (which is probably barely audible mainly because of the other instruments), if you talked about (6) as the circle, it does emphasization really well, space is increased here and movement is emphasized. Current slider is mapped to the violin and goes with the drums as well, your suggestion is valid but current pattern works really well nontheless.
  5. 00:16:320(5)- Same here I think.You are not starting the violin really well here so why yo don't make (5) from circle into a slider or deleting it and moving the next slider to this point? Because the next note is a violin and a drum, therefore mapping those together into a slider would be much nicer.
  6. 00:49:420(1,1,1,1,1,1)- Honestly saying,here the music still going and there's no any reset of the vocals nor of the instruments so I guess you don't have reasons to overuse the NCs here Drums clearly enhance their strength with each note, therefore I gradually increase the spacing between each object, NCs help reading those changes and it goes really well with the music!
  7. 00:53:320(5)- This note doesn't seems overmapped?On this 1/4 tick there's no any beat here nor any violin or piano etc.I would like to delete this note and extending the previous slider to this 1/4 tick or leaving as it is if there the vocals are not extending.Same goes for:
  8. 00:55:720(2)-
  9. 00:56:520(6)-
  10. 01:02:320(2)-
  11. 01:05:520(2)- Okay, since commenting on each one of those is pointless, I'll be general on those - The kiai is filled with many intense 1/4 instruments, unfortunately sometimes there are none (although the music is as intensive as ever), removing those notes will result in a bad rhythm and overall playability. I'll use the first mentioned as an example (I changed offsets with the mp3 so bear with me). 00:53:086 (5,6) - First note serves as a transition into the next note, as simple as that, the pattern right before then (00:52:186 (1,2,3,4) - is mapped non-stop, rhtyhm constantly goes on, extending the previous slider will ignore the drum, reversing it would land on 00:53:186 (6) - and ruin the strong drum there, it is unavoidable. Please note that I did look at other similar maps that use this kind of leniency mechanism to keep the map in-tact, so this is not an original idea of mine.
  12. 01:06:120(4)-
  13. 01:11:720(2)-
  14. 01:15:620(1)- The tail of this slider isn't stacked really well with 01:15:020(2)-.For fixing the stack with that slider,you just have to move this slider to 322|55 Oops, moved the other slider and fixed instead.
That must be all for the higher difficulty!
Popped the bubble since I had concerns about the rhythm here mostly.Moreover,talking about mp3 you have to cut that strange sound from the end of the mp3 because it comes from the beginning of the song and it doesn't make part of the original one as I listened it (confirmed with another QAT about it)
Call me back after the issues are adressed (and after an Easy difficulty will be mapped) so I will check the whole mapset after.
Good luck for now!
Alright, thanks Byby! I fixed the mp3, added an Easy diff (the rhythm at the kiai is confirmed okay by Bakari) and hopefully everything is fine now :)
Irreversible

Avishay wrote:

sometimes there are none
I love how you keep saying yourself that you overmap. You've blantantly filled the kiai with poor rhythm, sometimes it's not even executed in proper manner (following the vocals with a red tick slider, awkwardly let it repeat on a strong slider which causes 2 objects to be missed out).

I'd say your placement definitely improved, but you have a long way to go with rhythm. From my point of view this is certainly not acceptable and Byby stated reasonable points - so please fix them up and give your best to keep the map perfectly fitting the song, while keeping it playable to your likings.

On top of that, it is beyond me how this got a bubble so easily.
Topic Starter
Avishay

Irreversible wrote:

Avishay wrote:

sometimes there are none
I love how you keep saying yourself that you overmap. You've blantantly filled the kiai with poor rhythm, sometimes it's not even executed in proper manner (following the vocals with a red tick slider, awkwardly let it repeat on a strong slider which causes 2 objects to be missed out).

I'd say your placement definitely improved, but you have a long way to go with rhythm. From my point of view this is certainly not acceptable and Byby stated reasonable points - so please fix them up and give your best to keep the map perfectly fitting the song, while keeping it playable to your likings.

On top of that, it is beyond me how this got a bubble so easily.
I love how you keep saying overmap is bad yet many maps pass qualification with overmaps. I'd love to give examples to explain why the overmaps here are proper but since you find it bad to use other maps as an example I'll try my best to explain -

Since you didn't point out which reverse slider you were referring to, I'll explain on both:
  1. 00:53:586 (1) - Held vocal that starts on red tick, I did not want to use a circle because... well it's obvious, so in order to keep the slider with the vocals, your only option of rhythm here is http://puu.sh/nMB0p/0c183718a1.jpg, which is just horrible, it's completely empty. The object at 00:54:086 helps and removes some the emptiness, which is why it is there in the first place.
  2. 00:58:386 (5) - Actually the explanation is pretty much the same here.
You are the first from many people who played and tested those rhythms that said that the rhythms are poor, furthermore, rhythm choice is not set in stone, there are dozens of way of mapping a set of instruments in a song, just because you did not like this one it does not mean it is well, because it does play and sound well (in my opinion at the very least).

If you are insistent on saying that my rhythm choice is poor, please provide a better rhythm to suit the difficulty and the song.

Please note that although the star rating is not that high, the map is not as easy as one might think, so please consult some players that can properly play this without judging harshly.
Irreversible
As long as there is overmap like this, the only thing I can provide is "don't overmap". Because the way you overmap just simply overwrites what the song offers.

Speaking of other maps, feel free to drop your comment on those and they will gladly be checked.
Topic Starter
Avishay
I am trying to make the most out of the song, perhaps not in the same manner as you would, but I don't see why it is not valid, those overmaps are consistent with everything else, and are there to satisfy the need of consistency in this diff.

As for the other maps, I am not enthused by checking everything in the qualified section, and since this is the first map that came to my mind I will drop this on the table, which was ranked not long ago. Same kind of map (low bpm, single-tappish map), it does overmap a lot in the kiai - 00:48:147 (2) - 00:48:992 (2) - 00:49:838 (2) - etc etc.

Luckily for apple, that song is kinda different as most vocals land perfectly with the downbeat (which is not the case here, unfortunately), so it might have been easier to follow both the strong beats and vocals.
HappyRocket88
Just dropping my opinion. May be useful, may not. But I would to know some things of the rhythm which worries me a bit.

First at all, I want to provide I've tested the last difficulty, not in the editor but playing it in real life.

[DiFf_(k)NAME]
  1. 00:03:886 (5,6) - Let's start here. What's the purpose of these notes snapped at 1/4? The rhythm here played somehow awkward because there's no need of placing 1/4 circles while leaving them with no notes would play quite better here.
  2. 00:32:786 (7,1) - Spacing here was totally confusing due the jump doesn't invite players to distinguish if (1) is napped to 1/2 or 1/4. Besides, considering how the last pattern was built this 1/2 pattern confuses the rhythm here. A simply solve for this section would be increasing the spacing which would fit particularly good.
  3. 00:51:186 (1,2,3,4,5) - This placement is rather messy in comparison with the previous fancy and well-flow pattern 00:49:186 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - made just before. I do believe re-placing these 00:51:186 (1,2,3,4) - with a shorter distance would fit nicely here.
    00:55:586 (3,4,5) - The jump is supposed to be on the slider (4) not onto (5) just accordingly how this section emphasized the vocals desu.
  4. 01:01:186 (7,8) - 01:10:886 - Uhh... Quite awkward rhythm to play because not even vocals or the instruments are highlighted here so holding a 1/2 slider here plays weird. It would be better if the slider started at the red tick to develop a more suitable rhythm for this section.
  5. 01:07:186 (5,6) - Why the jump? Rhythmically talking, the song doesn't support the circle at the blue tick as strong as the slider so there's no need of forcing a quite high 1/4 jump on this section.
Good luck! I do disagree with the how the kiai section is mapped at 1/4 mostly when the music doesn't support 1/4 beats as this difficulty tries to do. It's consistent, yeah. But that shouldn't be a reason of making such as a hard difficulty to read and play when you already have a good mapped insane over there. You can poke me if you need mod in the easiest diff too.
Topic Starter
Avishay

HappyRocket88 wrote:

Just dropping my opinion. May be useful, may not. But I would to know some things of the rhythm which worries me a bit.

First at all, I want to provide I've tested the last difficulty, not in the editor but playing it in real life.

[DiFf_(k)NAME]
  1. 00:03:886 (5,6) - Let's start here. What's the purpose of these notes snapped at 1/4? The rhythm here played somehow awkward because there's no need of placing 1/4 circles while leaving them with no notes would play quite better here. Those circles literally follow the instruments :\
  2. 00:32:786 (7,1) - Spacing here was totally confusing due the jump doesn't invite players to distinguish if (1) is napped to 1/2 or 1/4. Besides, considering how the last pattern was built this 1/2 pattern confuses the rhythm here. A simply solve for this section would be increasing the spacing which would fit particularly good. You are right, I did feel it a bit, I wasn't sure where to place it, but I did increase the spacing for now.
  3. 00:51:186 (1,2,3,4,5) - This placement is rather messy in comparison with the previous fancy and well-flow pattern 00:49:186 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - made just before. I do believe re-placing these 00:51:186 (1,2,3,4) - with a shorter distance would fit nicely here. It's just fine imo, escalating triangles, perhaps it looks a bit odd but it plays really well.
    00:55:586 (3,4,5) - The jump is supposed to be on the slider (4) not onto (5) just accordingly how this section emphasized the vocals desu. How come? 5 is held and is much stronger, 4 builds it up./b]
  4. 01:01:186 (7,8) - 01:10:886 - Uhh... Quite awkward rhythm to play because not even vocals or the instruments are highlighted here so holding a 1/2 slider here plays weird. It would be better if the slider started at the red tick to develop a more suitable rhythm for this section. Okay, as this rhythm may actually play awkwardly for various people, it is honest to the beats. However, I did try to ignore those and make something different, and ended up having something which I really like and other people will most likely like too!
  5. 01:07:186 (5,6) - Why the jump? Rhythmically talking, the song doesn't support the circle at the blue tick as strong as the slider so there's no need of forcing a quite high 1/4 jump on this section. [b]Violin, at the same time it makes the whole pattern look really well, and it is not that hard as it might look.
Good luck! I do disagree with the how the kiai section is mapped at 1/4 mostly when the music doesn't support 1/4 beats as this difficulty tries to do. It's consistent, yeah. But that shouldn't be a reason of making such as a hard difficulty to read and play when you already have a good mapped insane over there. You can poke me if you need mod in the easiest diff too.
Thanks!
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