suzumu feat.soraru - Zetsubousei: Hero Chiryouyaku The Anima · forum

Vulkin

Joined September 2014

Vulkin 2017-05-17T23:10:07+00:00

rip qualify
oh well, ill take this opportunity to fix some things on my kantan that i forgot

EDIT: Discussed some stuff with Surono about some parts, and made a few changes on my own to improve the quality of it
Hopefully its a bit less painful to play
(if its over 2* i swear ill kill this pc because it shows 1.96 here)

Update

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Stefan

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Stefan 2017-05-18T23:07:23+00:00

Arrival wrote:
Well that was surprising. You can also ask me when you finished it.

Thank you a lot, I appreciate this help and will consider it when we're really ready.

Hitsu wrote:
~~oh shit~~
please do not make us wait for too long again with this ;www;
i just love the set so much, please kill me

doing my best!

Vulkin: Gonna update whenever Nardo and I get in talk again and how we should proceed since I may not do a 5th difficulty but to nerf Muzukashii/Futsuu.

Surono

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Surono 2017-05-19T17:42:37+00:00

nardo and stefan pro.. dem vulkin oke diff!
~~sry for dem english simple lul. will try to mod if nardo postd the mod, since I didnt full mod for this map.~~

Last edited by Surono 2017-05-20T21:15:42+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-05-20T13:57:41+00:00

Hmm, so you decide to simplify Futsuu and Muzukashii instead of making a new difficulty, which is also fine.

IRC mod with Stefan, May 20, 2017

19:37 Stefan: Alright. So I've been trying to map a 5th difficulty - between current Kantan and Futsuu. But that didn't go very well.. and I sorta struggle with it. Nevertheless I think because I had to change Futsuu/Muzukashii anyways, I think I will just go with your idea to nerf Futsuu/Muzukashii instead.
19:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Okay.
19:38 Stefan: Also because I barely buffed these two diffs I think that's the better decision to nerf them instead.
19:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm going to provide some suggestions to simplify Futsuu first
19:40 Stefan: okay
19:43 Stefan: Oh right
19:43 Stefan: Vulkin did update some things
19:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:02:662 (6) - consider deleting this note? Seeing that Kantan only has 4/1 notes, so it would be better to remove some in the prelude
19:43 Stefan: together with Surono
19:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm?
19:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: Oh, did you update it?
19:44 Stefan: not yet, gonna do this quick
19:46 Stefan: and done
19:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: Back to the topic then
19:48 Stefan: yes
19:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:02:662 (6,12,13,15,20,21) - I think these notes could be deleted
19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: The current note density is rather similar to Muzukashii while the gap with Kantan is too big
19:52 Stefan: I see what you mean.. okay, doing changes here
19:52 Stefan: removing stuff mostly
19:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:16:418 (44) - this note could be removed as well since there is no density increase in Kantan and Muzukashii at this part
20:00 Stefan: done
20:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: Oh, I'm gonna have my dinner first, brb
20:04 Stefan: Okay!
20:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm back!
20:18 Stefan: welcome back~
20:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:23:882 (66) - maybe k as you did in Muzukashii for consistency?
20:20 Stefan: Jup
20:20 Stefan: I used to have that part in every diff as dd
20:20 Stefan: but got changed over time.
20:31 Nardoxyribonucleic: From 00:38:077 - to 00:47:443 - maybe try something like this to improve the spread from Kantan to Muzukashii? https://puu.sh/vVUbt.jpg (cursor at 00:42:760 - )
20:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: Kantan barely has any 1/1 notes, so it would be better to use fewer 1/2 in Futsuu
20:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: The suggestion is made with reference to how your Muzukashii is mapped
20:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm what do you think?
20:39 Stefan: Ah sorry, was sorta busy minutes ago
20:39 Stefan: mmmh lets see
20:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: In this way the snaps are easier to follow as well
20:48 Stefan: Okay
20:48 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/OjFLAG3W.png that's what I did.
20:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:49:492 (137) - delete and remove the finish at 00:49:784 (138) - ?
20:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: the former is for spread while the latter for consistency
20:49 Stefan: Okay.
20:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:52:711 (146) - 00:53:882 (150) - 00:55:053 (154) - remove ? Kantan is rather simple here
20:54 Stefan: jup, removed all of them
20:56 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:03:540 (177,178) - you may swap these notes to k d as you did in Muzukashii
20:57 Stefan: yep, sounds also right to Oni
20:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:04:272 (179,180,181) - ctrl+G and delete the middle note ?
21:00 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/0j0Peo6W.png that?
21:00 Nardoxyribonucleic: yes
21:01 Stefan: mmmh, I prefer to have d k here
21:01 Stefan: But I removed the note in the mid anyway
21:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: okay
21:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:13:784 (212) - same as ^
21:03 Stefan: Oki
21:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:17:296 (222) - 01:21:979 (240) - same as before
21:06 Stefan: jup, looks okay.
21:06 Stefan: 2.65* now
21:06 Stefan: lmao
21:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: I guess that's all for Futsuu
21:08 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/902307 suzumu feat.soraru - Zetsubousei: Hero Chiryouyaku The Animation [Muzukashii]]
21:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:42:760 (178) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
21:12 Nardoxyribonucleic: You have one in Futsuu and Oni
21:12 Stefan: Looks like that, added.
21:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:05:589 (275,276,277,278) - kkk d instead of d kkk for the background 1/4 drums?
21:22 Stefan: It sorta feels right the way it is atm. to put the triplet earlier sounds misplaced to me
21:22 Stefan: But that are just my thoughts.
21:23 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:14:809 (316) - as mentioned in the previous mod, I think this slider could start at 01:14:955 - , simply for a 2/1 rest after the kiai
21:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: This break could result in a contrast with the ordinary breaks like 01:15:540 - 01:16:711 - etc. as well
21:29 Stefan: mmh, okay.
21:30 Nardoxyribonucleic: Oh, please do it for Futsuu as well then
21:30 Stefan: Did that already. w
21:31 Nardoxyribonucleic: Okay, then we have come to the last problem
21:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: Muzukashii and Oni has a 200-note gap, while other gaps are only ~100
21:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: I would recommend renaming the current Oni into Inner Oni and making a new Oni from it with about 470 notes
21:34 Nardoxyribonucleic: Otherwise you may need to simplify the current one down to 550 notes
21:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: Either way. Just to make sure density difference is not too significant
21:36 Stefan: While I do understand that a constant gap is important for a mapset, the gap of note differences between the difficulties may be a subjective issue
21:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: Well. Note differences could also reflect complexity difference in certain extent
21:37 Stefan: The Oni difficulty plays like one, the only thing I could nerf would be the longer part at the early stage
21:37 Stefan: 00:09:101 (53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - that to be exact
21:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Sure thing
21:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Also you may consider removing notes like 00:01:199 (4,11,18) -
21:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: for calm parts like this
21:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: sparser patterns may work
21:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:04:711 - you may remove this unused timing point
21:46 Stefan: okay uh.. I updated stuff at first, just to have them saved. Did some changes in the 2nd half of the Kiai in Oni
21:47 Stefan: And I kept this line for the volume changes
21:48 Stefan: since people tend to tap for some ms earlier so they'd have 60% for 00:09:540 - otherwise.
21:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: There is no note at 00:04:711 - now for the SV change
21:49 Stefan: It doesn't do anything anyway but okay, changed to the previous SV (0.92)
21:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: I mean [https://puu.sh/vVX3h.png this one]
21:50 Stefan: O
21:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: the highlighted timing point
21:50 Stefan: I am dumb :thinking2:
21:51 Stefan: removed
21:54 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think that's all for now. You may still make minor fixes if you like. You may call me back for a recheck after that.

You may call me back for a recheck after that~

Surono

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Surono 2017-05-21T00:51:42+00:00

check,.

>kantan
* 00:09:101 - spinner

>Futsuu
* 00:07:638 (16,17) - ctrl g
* 00:07:638 (16,17) - ~ 00:19:345 - Suggestion to make it balance and variety: 00:11:589 (26,27,28,29) - d d kd, 00:13:784 - dd and apply for similar part
* 01:15:248 - end here

>Muzukashii
* 00:37:638 - add here kkk 1/4 at least because in here is a bit close with futsuu and oni has longstream

Last edited by Surono 2017-05-22T02:12:32+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Vulkin

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Vulkin 2017-05-22T01:52:38+00:00

Surono wrote:
check, no kd.

>kantan
* 00:09:101 - spinner yes dad

thank for check

edit: actually no spinner, intense part right after rip

Last edited by Vulkin 2017-06-05T21:08:51+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Stefan

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Stefan 2017-05-22T15:42:30+00:00

Applied for 00:11:589 (26,27,28,29) - d d kd and similar parts and removed the 2nd drumslider entirely of Futsuu. No other changes were done.

Vulkin

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Vulkin 2017-05-27T22:24:12+00:00

im actually a dingus for not putting the osu code
sorry

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Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-06-04T19:04:00+00:00

A quick recheck here. (no kd)

[Vulkin's Kantan]

00:00:614 - I think you should not omit the first bar line here since this line is rather essential for the start of metronome.
You may remove the green lines at 00:00:614 and 00:00:760 - as they are unused.

Stefan

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Stefan 2017-06-04T22:40:03+00:00

Done, didn't bother to wait for Vulkin because that doesn't require him to change that.

Vulkin

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Joined September 2014

Vulkin 2017-06-05T03:38:45+00:00

guess im a bit too late, sorry x)