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syzfonics - Never Ending [OsuMania]

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Feerum
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Feerum
Hi.

Additional to the Mod above i would like to mention following things:

[EXHAUST]
From 00:23:233 - to 00:28:917 -
I'm pretty sure you have a LOT of Wrong snapped notes in here.
Gonna point out and how it should (probably) be snapped.

00:23:233 (23233|2,23272|3) - 1/12 means 00:23:272 (23272|3) - to 00:23:259 -

00:24:496 (24496|0,24535|1,24575|3) - 1/12, you can hear the last note is already too late.

00:25:759 (25759|3,25811|2,25864|1) - Are also wrong, should be 1/8, starting 00:25:798 -

00:26:390 (26390|0,26548|1,26706|2,26864|3) - These all should be 1/12 beat up, all are too early.

00:28:285 (28285|3,28325|1,28364|0) - Should also be 1/12

Additional to these wrong snapped notes, one more thing:
01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2,94820|1) - What are you following with these notes, they have literally absolute no sound, for me, these are ghost notes and should be removed. There is a really really really REALLY quiet echo but i could hear this only with 100% Volume ingame and on desktop.

mp3 Quality


What i saw while looking into your map is also that your mp3 quality is pretty poor.
Here you can see it:
Your mp3:


A hell lot of climbing like you can see here, also on the file name i can see it's a Youtube download.
I found a mp3 that is better, it's 128kbit but look by yourself:
New mp3:

Well less climbing and the mp3 also sounds more clear, at least for me.

I give you the mp3 and you can download it here: click

New Offset: 607 (-28)

Oki that's all from my side.
Good luck here
Blocko
osu! Alumni
742 posts
Joined February 2014
Blocko
The issues above seem valid to me. Please address them accordingly!


Also, I'd like to mention that the mapset's difficulty spread is rather unbalanced, specifically the ending patterns in each difficulty. Here's a rather brief mod about said things I just pointed out.

[NOVICE]
01:00:496 (60496|3,60811|2) - Turn these long notes up to 4 notes to map the violin more accurately.

01:37:220 - The current pattern doesn't really leave a good impact while playing it since the patterns are really similar to BASIC. You can replace the LNs as single notes that can be mapped to the piano chord (with occasional 2-note chords for the synth and the crash) so the patterns would make a better impression with the song building up to the end.

[ADVANCED]
00:43:443 - I get that the hammers (aka 1/2 jacks) are there to accent the kick, but the constant 1/2 stream drowns out that effect. Maybe you can remove other notes so you can make a better emphasis with the kick and the synths.

01:37:220 - You can map the piano chords in the ending as 2-note chords instead of short jacks and streams under high BPM to really highlight that piano. It would also make the progression across difficulties much less jarring.


I would highly recommend adding another difficulty between ADVANCED and EXHAUST so it would lessen the gap between those two difficulties, which would really help the difficulty spread of the mapset.
These few suggestions are mainly stuff about diff progression across all diffs. Take them as you will, but it's pretty much to cover the spread issue in the map.

Again, please address these suggestions accordingly. Any kind of feedback or suggestion from the community is much appreciated.

Good luck.
Akasha-
Nomination Assessment Team
4,418 posts
Joined April 2013
Akasha-
Seems all problems has been arrested

However, I would like to ask you to change hitsound of the chorus part
(Because using soft-finish.wav for snare sound is really annoyed)

You can add soft-hitclap.wav for them insteal of soft-hitfinish.wav
So that would be more suitable and comfortable

(What I mean: It's on 2/4 and 4/4 of the chorus
01:03:920 - 01:04:520 - 01:05:120 - 01:05:720 - 01:06:320 - 01:06:920 - 01:07:520 - 01:08:120 - 01:08:720 - 01:09:320 - 01:09:920 - 01:10:520 - 01:11:120 - 01:11:720 - 01:12:320 - 01:12:920 - 01:13:520 - 01:14:120 - 01:14:720 - 01:15:320 - 01:15:920 - 01:16:520 - 01:17:120 - 01:17:720 - 01:18:320 - 01:18:920 - 01:19:520 - 01:20:120 - 01:20:720 - 01:21:320 - 01:21:920 - 01:22:520 - And the after of chorus part: 01:23:120 - 01:23:720 - 01:24:320 - 01:24:920 - 01:25:520 - 01:26:120 - )

And for all diffs: 00:23:233 - remove this green timing
If it's 1.0x; there is no changing for this BPM

And I take 190 BPM as average for your map:
So with that: 00:00:635 - 190 / 180 = 1.05555556 (= 1.06x)

Also, I'm highly recomended you to fix the big gap from ADVANCED to EXHAUST (2.0 gap)
Solutions:
1. Raise ADVANCED to 3.5*
2. Decrease EXHAUST to 4.5*
3. Make a difficult between it; and name it as EXHAUST; your current EXHAUST now have to change to GRAVITY

That's all
Best of luck
SpectorDG
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Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
SpectorDG
Fixed some stuff . . thank you for check guys

Added 4sr EXHAUST

HELLO GRAVITY
Feerum
osu! Alumni
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Joined August 2014
Feerum
Spector did PM me ingame for the new Exhaust.

IRC
18:04 SpectorDG: Hi
18:06 Feerum: Oh hey
18:06 *SpectorDG is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/996296 syzfonics - Never Ending]
18:06 SpectorDG: can we little irc ?
18:06 SpectorDG: new EXH
18:08 SpectorDG: i need suggestion for new EXH :)
18:08 Feerum: Uh..
18:09 SpectorDG: if you wont
18:09 Feerum: okay
18:09 SpectorDG: just keep me
18:10 SpectorDG: updated
18:10 Feerum: Okay soo
18:10 Feerum: waht exactly
18:11 Feerum: what*
18:12 SpectorDG: im used old EXH patterns
18:12 SpectorDG: you can see
18:12 SpectorDG: just i'm decreased
18:12 SpectorDG: this
18:14 Feerum: 00:26:390 (26390|0,26548|1,26706|2,26864|3) -  are still wrong snapped
18:15 Feerum: Still should be 1/12 up
18:15 SpectorDG: gimme suggestion
18:15 Feerum: Like already said in my mod
18:15 SpectorDG: i hear single piano sounds here
18:16 Feerum: it is piano
18:16 Feerum: but your notes are all to early
18:16 Feerum: 1/12 beat to early
18:16 Feerum: 00:26:548 (26548|1) -  that's so audible
18:16 SpectorDG: [http://puu.sh/piWx9/a89c91f6fe.jpg like a this ?]
18:17 Feerum: No ,just move your notes 1/12 beat up [http://puu.sh/piWA8/09be2f3176.png a]. They are wrong snapped for the Piano
18:18 SpectorDG: sorry im drunk
18:20 Feerum: lol
18:21 Feerum: yeah only these
18:21 SpectorDG: anyway fixed
18:21 Feerum: the other look fine now
18:21 SpectorDG: thanks
18:26 Feerum: 01:39:590 - uh
18:26 Feerum: did you forget here something
18:26 SpectorDG: GG
18:26 SpectorDG: added
18:26 Feerum: xd
18:27 Feerum: 01:38:615 (98615|2) -  suggest to move this to 2
18:27 Feerum: It is really hard to hit when you have after this jacks on 4
18:27 SpectorDG: yea
18:27 SpectorDG: why i mapped 3 d:
18:27 SpectorDG: moved
18:28 Feerum: hmmm
18:28 Feerum: actually the remaining looks good, at least way better than the gap before D:
18:29 SpectorDG: can i go re-qualfy this /
18:30 Feerum: Actually yes, but can i give you a Advice from mapper to mapper?
18:30 SpectorDG: sure
18:32 Feerum: Do not rush with the re-qualify now. I really recommend you to get at least some feedback to the ending part (if you haven't done it yet) especially in the gravity
18:32 Feerum: Maybe PM the guys who did mod it like Pope and
18:32 Feerum: uhh
18:32 Feerum: the
18:32 Feerum: other one, idk his name now xd
18:32 Feerum: Or ask some other play if it's better/good to play
18:32 Feerum: If they say "yeah it's fine" than you can go for re-qualify!
18:32 SpectorDG: okay
18:33 SpectorDG: thanks for all fee!
18:33 Feerum: np~
18:33 Feerum: i gonna post a log, just in case
SpectorDG
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SpectorDG
thanks for IRC fee!
Seiryuu
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Joined June 2013
Seiryuu
irc
15:27 [-Seiryuu-]: spe you free right now?
15:27 SpectorDG: yea
15:27 SpectorDG: we can irc now?
15:28 SpectorDG: i rearranged last parts
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: oh zen told you?
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: yeah i know but
15:28 SpectorDG: yea
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: i have different ideas
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: so uh
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: first part
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: 01:37:220 (97220|1,97220|0,97320|0,97320|1) - keeping these jacks at 3 note jumpjacks should work better like last time
15:29 [-Seiryuu-]: up to you to reject it, i'll wait for your reply before proceeding
15:30 SpectorDG: [http://puu.sh/pjLWf/ec93bb9817.jpg yea i won't |12|12| |34|34| jacks on this part]\
15:30 [-Seiryuu-]: so you're keeping it?
15:30 SpectorDG: i need like a [http://puu.sh/pjLXg/0377e2eff8.jpg this]
15:30 [-Seiryuu-]: nononono i mean
15:30 [-Seiryuu-]: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5333905 you could just keep it like last time]
15:31 [-Seiryuu-]: because it emphasises the rhythm better
15:31 SpectorDG: triples?
15:32 [-Seiryuu-]: yeah
15:33 SpectorDG: okay
15:33 SpectorDG: [http://puu.sh/pjM3T/91e0152333.jpg rearranged]
15:33 [-Seiryuu-]: alright then
15:33 [-Seiryuu-]: for the next section
15:34 [-Seiryuu-]: 01:39:590 -
15:34 [-Seiryuu-]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5333908
15:34 [-Seiryuu-]: suggest using patterns like these
15:34 SpectorDG: wow
15:36 [-Seiryuu-]: just take your time thinking about it
15:37 SpectorDG: okay nice
15:37 SpectorDG: rearrangefd
15:38 [-Seiryuu-]: alright
15:38 [-Seiryuu-]: then the last part
15:38 [-Seiryuu-]: 01:43:416 - from here onwards
15:38 [-Seiryuu-]: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5333918 change to this]
15:38 [-Seiryuu-]: the triple at the end isn't needed imo
15:40 SpectorDG: ayyyy
15:40 [-Seiryuu-]: i guess that's it then
15:40 SpectorDG: okay .. no need triples last part
15:40 [-Seiryuu-]: yE
15:40 SpectorDG: im rearranged all
15:40 [-Seiryuu-]: welp
15:41 [-Seiryuu-]: go ahead and get your bubble from zen then
15:41 [-Seiryuu-]: :D
15:41 SpectorDG: please post it thread
15:41 [-Seiryuu-]: ah sure
SpectorDG
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SpectorDG

[-Seiryuu-] wrote:

irc
15:27 [-Seiryuu-]: spe you free right now?
15:27 SpectorDG: yea
15:27 SpectorDG: we can irc now?
15:28 SpectorDG: i rearranged last parts
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: oh zen told you?
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: yeah i know but
15:28 SpectorDG: yea
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: i have different ideas
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: so uh
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: first part
15:28 [-Seiryuu-]: 01:37:220 (97220|1,97220|0,97320|0,97320|1) - keeping these jacks at 3 note jumpjacks should work better like last time
15:29 [-Seiryuu-]: up to you to reject it, i'll wait for your reply before proceeding
15:30 SpectorDG: [http://puu.sh/pjLWf/ec93bb9817.jpg yea i won't |12|12| |34|34| jacks on this part]\
15:30 [-Seiryuu-]: so you're keeping it?
15:30 SpectorDG: i need like a [http://puu.sh/pjLXg/0377e2eff8.jpg this]
15:30 [-Seiryuu-]: nononono i mean
15:30 [-Seiryuu-]: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5333905 you could just keep it like last time]
15:31 [-Seiryuu-]: because it emphasises the rhythm better
15:31 SpectorDG: triples?
15:32 [-Seiryuu-]: yeah
15:33 SpectorDG: okay
15:33 SpectorDG: [http://puu.sh/pjM3T/91e0152333.jpg rearranged]
15:33 [-Seiryuu-]: alright then
15:33 [-Seiryuu-]: for the next section
15:34 [-Seiryuu-]: 01:39:590 -
15:34 [-Seiryuu-]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5333908
15:34 [-Seiryuu-]: suggest using patterns like these
15:34 SpectorDG: wow
15:36 [-Seiryuu-]: just take your time thinking about it
15:37 SpectorDG: okay nice
15:37 SpectorDG: rearrangefd
15:38 [-Seiryuu-]: alright
15:38 [-Seiryuu-]: then the last part
15:38 [-Seiryuu-]: 01:43:416 - from here onwards
15:38 [-Seiryuu-]: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5333918 change to this]
15:38 [-Seiryuu-]: the triple at the end isn't needed imo
15:40 SpectorDG: ayyyy
15:40 [-Seiryuu-]: i guess that's it then
15:40 SpectorDG: okay .. no need triples last part
15:40 [-Seiryuu-]: yE
15:40 SpectorDG: im rearranged all
15:40 [-Seiryuu-]: welp
15:41 [-Seiryuu-]: go ahead and get your bubble from zen then
15:41 [-Seiryuu-]: :D
15:41 SpectorDG: please post it thread
15:41 [-Seiryuu-]: ah sure
Fixed last part and rearranged some patterns

thanks sei

and current mp3 is fine
new mp3 really lower than mine I already checked, 192kbps is enough
Evening
2,464 posts
Joined December 2012
Evening
ok (again)

do people read this
14:52 SpectorDG: zen
14:52 SpectorDG: are you free now
14:52 Evening: a bit
14:52 SpectorDG: ?
14:52 *SpectorDG is away: no req
14:52 SpectorDG: we can go little irc?
14:52 *SpectorDG is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/899135 syzfonics - Never Ending]
14:53 SpectorDG: about new EXH
14:53 Evening: uh what happen again
14:53 Evening: oh dq
14:53 Evening: rip
14:53 SpectorDG: DQ : HS Problems and last part
14:54 SpectorDG: if it's looks fine
14:54 Evening: eeh think the last part is fine but ehh ok
14:54 SpectorDG: i want re-qualfy this
14:54 Evening: lemme redl
14:54 SpectorDG: ok
14:54 Evening: 01:43:484 (103484|3,103484|2,103552|2,103552|1,103620|1,103620|0,103688|3,103688|2,103757|1,103757|2,103825|1,103825|0,103893|2,103893|3,103961|1,103961|2,104029|1,104029|3,104029|0) - wo
14:54 Evening: that is ****hard**** to play
14:55 SpectorDG: yea
14:55 SpectorDG: sei already noticed this
14:55 SpectorDG: im planning re-arrange this
14:55 SpectorDG: gimme suggestion hueee >w<
14:55 Evening: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
14:56 SpectorDG: [http://puu.sh/pjKCv/6a00f9472e.png better jacks here]
14:57 Evening: wow
14:57 Evening: noo pls
14:57 Evening: no
14:57 SpectorDG: ofc not this XD
14:58 Evening: uhhhhh
15:01 Evening: http://puu.sh/pjKNf/ecc07b8bbe.jpg
15:01 Evening: suggesting this i guess
15:01 Evening: idk how to make the pattern go harder from a jumptrill without it being tooooo hard
15:01 SpectorDG: let mee see
15:02 SpectorDG: it's started here 01:41:848 - ?
15:02 Evening: yeap
15:04 Evening: also what about wh1teh's suggestion
15:04 SpectorDG: uhh ...
15:05 SpectorDG: i don't want decrease - 5sr
15:05 Evening: :\
15:06 Evening: well then i can't really help you lol
15:06 Evening: either jumptrill all the way or do that, jacks are really awkward at the last part
15:06 SpectorDG: hmm
15:06 SpectorDG: 01:43:484 - maybe i can keep that sounds
15:07 SpectorDG: 01:41:848 - start |1|2|34
15:07 SpectorDG: |12|34|
15:07 SpectorDG: 01:43:484 - still going here
15:08 Evening: uh
15:08 Evening: screenshot o3o
15:10 SpectorDG: okay
15:10 SpectorDG: http://puu.sh/pjLaJ/f861ef35ec.jpg
15:10 SpectorDG: i mean never ending |12|34| patterns here 01:41:848
15:11 Evening: uhh
15:11 SpectorDG: 01:43:484 - and |12|34| here too
15:11 Evening: i guess it's fine
15:12 SpectorDG: lemme update first
15:13 SpectorDG: updated
15:13 Evening: what about wh1teh's suggestion btw
15:14 SpectorDG: why not
15:14 SpectorDG: i like that
15:14 Evening: you applied on exhaust?
15:15 SpectorDG: GRAVITY*
15:15 Evening: o 3o i don't really see it
15:15 SpectorDG: let me update :3
15:24 SpectorDG: zen
15:24 SpectorDG: testplay it grv?
15:24 SpectorDG: updated
15:24 Evening: o ok
15:25 Evening: sei wants to irc i think
15:25 SpectorDG: ok
15:27 Evening: lol rip ending
15:28 SpectorDG: rip
15:43 SpectorDG: okay
15:43 SpectorDG: zen
15:43 SpectorDG: we can go now
15:43 SpectorDG: updated all
15:44 Evening: what did sei change
15:44 SpectorDG: update it gravity
15:44 SpectorDG: rearranged some patterns and last part
15:52 Evening: 00:57:285 (57285|1) -  ugh idk i can't hear this instrument
15:54 SpectorDG: really?
15:54 Evening: idk can you
15:54 SpectorDG: yea i hear
15:54 Evening: eeh then it's ok i guess
15:54 SpectorDG: i hear guitar
15:54 Evening: i have bad ears lol
15:54 SpectorDG: lel just your headphones bad 00:54:496 - and there really need 2 notes?
15:55 SpectorDG: maybe 1 note is enough?
15:55 SpectorDG: i guess
15:55 SpectorDG: what is your opinion
15:55 *SpectorDG is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/996296 syzfonics - Never Ending [GRAVITY]]
15:55 Evening: isn't it for the snare
15:55 Evening: like snare for 2 notes
15:55 SpectorDG: it's play for really hard ;w;
15:56 Evening: o 3o??
15:57 SpectorDG: rearranged something http://puu.sh/pjMZN/89f8d676fa.jpg
15:58 Evening: o oki
15:58 SpectorDG: same here 00:55:759 - ^
15:58 SpectorDG: 00:57:022 - ^
15:58 Evening: looks fine
15:58 SpectorDG: okay EXH time
15:58 SpectorDG: anyway update first
15:59 SpectorDG: okay
15:59 *SpectorDG is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/899136 syzfonics - Never Ending [EXHAUST]]
16:01 Evening: uggggggh so tired
16:02 SpectorDG: ;w;
16:02 SpectorDG: no problemo here~
16:02 SpectorDG: fee irc'd this
16:02 Evening: 00:57:969 (57969|3) -  do you plan to make this easier than grav
16:03 SpectorDG: maybe it's not easier than grv
16:03 Evening: looks like the same difficulty
16:03 Evening: 01:02:390 (62390|2) -  make this easier i guess, http://puu.sh/pjNeV/baf60bb5f1.jpg
16:04 SpectorDG: it's same of 00:21:968 - this part
16:05 SpectorDG: so can i rearrange this too ? 00:21:968 - ?
16:05 Evening: yeap
16:05 Evening: just trying to make it easier than gravity lol
16:05 Evening: the pattern here is already harder than chorus
16:06 SpectorDG: so it's good http://puu.sh/pjNk7/ff5981e806.jpg ?
16:06 Evening: looks fine o _o
16:06 SpectorDG: okay :v
16:06 Evening: but then again i don't really play at this star rating so idk
16:08 SpectorDG: other problem/
16:08 SpectorDG: ?
16:08 SpectorDG: okay
16:08 Evening: 01:37:220 (97220|0) - uhh
16:08 Evening: make this 134 or 14?
16:08 Evening: starting with 1 note a bit weird
16:08 SpectorDG: i copy adv
16:08 Evening: same for ADV and GRV actually
16:09 Evening:  o wo
16:09 SpectorDG: i rearranged adv
16:09 SpectorDG: because i maked 4sr here o wo
16:09 Evening: make that note there a chord ? , w,?
16:10 SpectorDG: wait
16:12 SpectorDG: [http://puu.sh/pjNC8/fb3ac3e90c.jpg maybe this]
16:13 Evening: adv?
16:13 SpectorDG: EXH
16:13 Evening: o
16:13 Evening: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
16:14 Evening: well, i mean like, this part should be harder than all of the jack parts before it 
16:14 Evening: _should_
16:14 SpectorDG: okay rearranged before
16:14 SpectorDG: owo
16:15 SpectorDG: current patterns are fine i guess http://puu.sh/pjNHu/02f31ebe3d.jpg
16:15 Evening: 01:37:220 (97220|0) -  i mean make this a chord , w,
16:16 SpectorDG: ok
16:16 Evening: same as adv and grav
16:16 Evening: grav make 3 note chord there , w,
16:17 SpectorDG: you mean triples chords right?
16:17 SpectorDG: or now im drunk ?
16:17 Evening: o 3o?!?
16:17 Evening: yea triples chord
16:18 SpectorDG: [http://puu.sh/pjNPt/a449f8571f.jpg o wo]
16:18 SpectorDG: i need relax hhh
16:18 Evening: ww
16:19 SpectorDG: :
16:19 SpectorDG: :v
16:21 Evening: uh what about blocko's mod , _,
16:21 SpectorDG: applied
16:21 SpectorDG: but im not sure last LN's
16:22 Evening: You can map the piano chords in the ending as 2-note chords instead of short jacks and streams under high BPM to really highlight that piano. It would also make the progression across difficulties much less jarring.  p wp?
16:22 SpectorDG: 01:37:220 - i think it's really fine
16:22 Evening: oh
16:22 Evening: Turn these long notes up to 4 notes to map the violin more accurately. idk what he mean , w,
16:22 Evening: you fixed?
16:23 SpectorDG: 01:00:496 (60496|3,60811|2) - Turn these long notes up to 4 notes to map the violin more accurately. ?
16:23 SpectorDG: fixed
16:23 SpectorDG: 01:00:496 - see that
16:25 Evening: idk what he mean so
16:25 Evening: oki then
16:26 *SpectorDG is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/899135 syzfonics - Never Ending [ADVANCED]]
16:26 SpectorDG: 01:37:220 - i told you im rearranged this
16:26 Evening: did you replace with feerum's mp3
16:27 SpectorDG: no
16:27 Evening: , w,?
16:27 SpectorDG: i already talked about new mp3
16:27 SpectorDG: for KK
16:27 Evening: so now what
16:28 SpectorDG: current mp3 is fine
16:28 Evening: , -,
16:28 Evening: did you tell feerum
16:28 SpectorDG: feerum's mp3 lower than mine
16:28 SpectorDG: i already checked
16:29 Evening: , w,
16:32 Evening: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
16:35 Evening: isn't like
16:36 Evening: infinite lower than gravity
16:36 Evening: shouldn't gravity be infinite idk
16:37 SpectorDG: updating
16:37 SpectorDG: done
16:37 Evening: o wo
16:37 Evening: you changing gravity to infinite?
16:38 SpectorDG: no
16:38 Evening: , w, !??
16:38 Evening: doesn't infinite come after exhaust
16:38 SpectorDG: no need infinite
16:38 *SpectorDG is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/711786 Yooh - LegenD.]
16:39 Evening: .     w .) o ok
16:39 *SpectorDG is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/789827 penoreri - Preserved Valkyria]
16:39 SpectorDG: really no need
16:39 SpectorDG: it's SDVX 3
16:39 SpectorDG: so no need inf
16:39 SpectorDG: but im sometimes make inf :P
16:39 *SpectorDG is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/798950 P*Light - 2 MINUTES FIGHTERS]
SpectorDG
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SpectorDG

Evening wrote:

ok (again)

do people read this
14:52 SpectorDG: zen
14:52 SpectorDG: are you free now
14:52 Evening: a bit
14:52 SpectorDG: ?
14:52 *SpectorDG is away: no req
14:52 SpectorDG: we can go little irc?
14:52 *SpectorDG is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/899135 syzfonics - Never Ending]
14:53 SpectorDG: about new EXH
14:53 Evening: uh what happen again
14:53 Evening: oh dq
14:53 Evening: rip
14:53 SpectorDG: DQ : HS Problems and last part
14:54 SpectorDG: if it's looks fine
14:54 Evening: eeh think the last part is fine but ehh ok
14:54 SpectorDG: i want re-qualfy this
14:54 Evening: lemme redl
14:54 SpectorDG: ok
14:54 Evening: 01:43:484 (103484|3,103484|2,103552|2,103552|1,103620|1,103620|0,103688|3,103688|2,103757|1,103757|2,103825|1,103825|0,103893|2,103893|3,103961|1,103961|2,104029|1,104029|3,104029|0) - wo
14:54 Evening: that is ****hard**** to play
14:55 SpectorDG: yea
14:55 SpectorDG: sei already noticed this
14:55 SpectorDG: im planning re-arrange this
14:55 SpectorDG: gimme suggestion hueee >w<
14:55 Evening: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
14:56 SpectorDG: [http://puu.sh/pjKCv/6a00f9472e.png better jacks here]
14:57 Evening: wow
14:57 Evening: noo pls
14:57 Evening: no
14:57 SpectorDG: ofc not this XD
14:58 Evening: uhhhhh
15:01 Evening: http://puu.sh/pjKNf/ecc07b8bbe.jpg
15:01 Evening: suggesting this i guess
15:01 Evening: idk how to make the pattern go harder from a jumptrill without it being tooooo hard
15:01 SpectorDG: let mee see
15:02 SpectorDG: it's started here 01:41:848 - ?
15:02 Evening: yeap
15:04 Evening: also what about wh1teh's suggestion
15:04 SpectorDG: uhh ...
15:05 SpectorDG: i don't want decrease - 5sr
15:05 Evening: :\
15:06 Evening: well then i can't really help you lol
15:06 Evening: either jumptrill all the way or do that, jacks are really awkward at the last part
15:06 SpectorDG: hmm
15:06 SpectorDG: 01:43:484 - maybe i can keep that sounds
15:07 SpectorDG: 01:41:848 - start |1|2|34
15:07 SpectorDG: |12|34|
15:07 SpectorDG: 01:43:484 - still going here
15:08 Evening: uh
15:08 Evening: screenshot o3o
15:10 SpectorDG: okay
15:10 SpectorDG: http://puu.sh/pjLaJ/f861ef35ec.jpg
15:10 SpectorDG: i mean never ending |12|34| patterns here 01:41:848
15:11 Evening: uhh
15:11 SpectorDG: 01:43:484 - and |12|34| here too
15:11 Evening: i guess it's fine
15:12 SpectorDG: lemme update first
15:13 SpectorDG: updated
15:13 Evening: what about wh1teh's suggestion btw
15:14 SpectorDG: why not
15:14 SpectorDG: i like that
15:14 Evening: you applied on exhaust?
15:15 SpectorDG: GRAVITY*
15:15 Evening: o 3o i don't really see it
15:15 SpectorDG: let me update :3
15:24 SpectorDG: zen
15:24 SpectorDG: testplay it grv?
15:24 SpectorDG: updated
15:24 Evening: o ok
15:25 Evening: sei wants to irc i think
15:25 SpectorDG: ok
15:27 Evening: lol rip ending
15:28 SpectorDG: rip
15:43 SpectorDG: okay
15:43 SpectorDG: zen
15:43 SpectorDG: we can go now
15:43 SpectorDG: updated all
15:44 Evening: what did sei change
15:44 SpectorDG: update it gravity
15:44 SpectorDG: rearranged some patterns and last part
15:52 Evening: 00:57:285 (57285|1) -  ugh idk i can't hear this instrument
15:54 SpectorDG: really?
15:54 Evening: idk can you
15:54 SpectorDG: yea i hear
15:54 Evening: eeh then it's ok i guess
15:54 SpectorDG: i hear guitar
15:54 Evening: i have bad ears lol
15:54 SpectorDG: lel just your headphones bad 00:54:496 - and there really need 2 notes?
15:55 SpectorDG: maybe 1 note is enough?
15:55 SpectorDG: i guess
15:55 SpectorDG: what is your opinion
15:55 *SpectorDG is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/996296 syzfonics - Never Ending [GRAVITY]]
15:55 Evening: isn't it for the snare
15:55 Evening: like snare for 2 notes
15:55 SpectorDG: it's play for really hard ;w;
15:56 Evening: o 3o??
15:57 SpectorDG: rearranged something http://puu.sh/pjMZN/89f8d676fa.jpg
15:58 Evening: o oki
15:58 SpectorDG: same here 00:55:759 - ^
15:58 SpectorDG: 00:57:022 - ^
15:58 Evening: looks fine
15:58 SpectorDG: okay EXH time
15:58 SpectorDG: anyway update first
15:59 SpectorDG: okay
15:59 *SpectorDG is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/899136 syzfonics - Never Ending [EXHAUST]]
16:01 Evening: uggggggh so tired
16:02 SpectorDG: ;w;
16:02 SpectorDG: no problemo here~
16:02 SpectorDG: fee irc'd this
16:02 Evening: 00:57:969 (57969|3) -  do you plan to make this easier than grav
16:03 SpectorDG: maybe it's not easier than grv
16:03 Evening: looks like the same difficulty
16:03 Evening: 01:02:390 (62390|2) -  make this easier i guess, http://puu.sh/pjNeV/baf60bb5f1.jpg
16:04 SpectorDG: it's same of 00:21:968 - this part
16:05 SpectorDG: so can i rearrange this too ? 00:21:968 - ?
16:05 Evening: yeap
16:05 Evening: just trying to make it easier than gravity lol
16:05 Evening: the pattern here is already harder than chorus
16:06 SpectorDG: so it's good http://puu.sh/pjNk7/ff5981e806.jpg ?
16:06 Evening: looks fine o _o
16:06 SpectorDG: okay :v
16:06 Evening: but then again i don't really play at this star rating so idk
16:08 SpectorDG: other problem/
16:08 SpectorDG: ?
16:08 SpectorDG: okay
16:08 Evening: 01:37:220 (97220|0) - uhh
16:08 Evening: make this 134 or 14?
16:08 Evening: starting with 1 note a bit weird
16:08 SpectorDG: i copy adv
16:08 Evening: same for ADV and GRV actually
16:09 Evening:  o wo
16:09 SpectorDG: i rearranged adv
16:09 SpectorDG: because i maked 4sr here o wo
16:09 Evening: make that note there a chord ? , w,?
16:10 SpectorDG: wait
16:12 SpectorDG: [http://puu.sh/pjNC8/fb3ac3e90c.jpg maybe this]
16:13 Evening: adv?
16:13 SpectorDG: EXH
16:13 Evening: o
16:13 Evening: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
16:14 Evening: well, i mean like, this part should be harder than all of the jack parts before it 
16:14 Evening: _should_
16:14 SpectorDG: okay rearranged before
16:14 SpectorDG: owo
16:15 SpectorDG: current patterns are fine i guess http://puu.sh/pjNHu/02f31ebe3d.jpg
16:15 Evening: 01:37:220 (97220|0) -  i mean make this a chord , w,
16:16 SpectorDG: ok
16:16 Evening: same as adv and grav
16:16 Evening: grav make 3 note chord there , w,
16:17 SpectorDG: you mean triples chords right?
16:17 SpectorDG: or now im drunk ?
16:17 Evening: o 3o?!?
16:17 Evening: yea triples chord
16:18 SpectorDG: [http://puu.sh/pjNPt/a449f8571f.jpg o wo]
16:18 SpectorDG: i need relax hhh
16:18 Evening: ww
16:19 SpectorDG: :
16:19 SpectorDG: :v
16:21 Evening: uh what about blocko's mod , _,
16:21 SpectorDG: applied
16:21 SpectorDG: but im not sure last LN's
16:22 Evening: You can map the piano chords in the ending as 2-note chords instead of short jacks and streams under high BPM to really highlight that piano. It would also make the progression across difficulties much less jarring.  p wp?
16:22 SpectorDG: 01:37:220 - i think it's really fine
16:22 Evening: oh
16:22 Evening: Turn these long notes up to 4 notes to map the violin more accurately. idk what he mean , w,
16:22 Evening: you fixed?
16:23 SpectorDG: 01:00:496 (60496|3,60811|2) - Turn these long notes up to 4 notes to map the violin more accurately. ?
16:23 SpectorDG: fixed
16:23 SpectorDG: 01:00:496 - see that
16:25 Evening: idk what he mean so
16:25 Evening: oki then
16:26 *SpectorDG is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/899135 syzfonics - Never Ending [ADVANCED]]
16:26 SpectorDG: 01:37:220 - i told you im rearranged this
16:26 Evening: did you replace with feerum's mp3
16:27 SpectorDG: no
16:27 Evening: , w,?
16:27 SpectorDG: i already talked about new mp3
16:27 SpectorDG: for KK
16:27 Evening: so now what
16:28 SpectorDG: current mp3 is fine
16:28 Evening: , -,
16:28 Evening: did you tell feerum
16:28 SpectorDG: feerum's mp3 lower than mine
16:28 SpectorDG: i already checked
16:29 Evening: , w,
16:32 Evening: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
16:35 Evening: isn't like
16:36 Evening: infinite lower than gravity
16:36 Evening: shouldn't gravity be infinite idk
16:37 SpectorDG: updating
16:37 SpectorDG: done
16:37 Evening: o wo
16:37 Evening: you changing gravity to infinite?
16:38 SpectorDG: no
16:38 Evening: , w, !??
16:38 Evening: doesn't infinite come after exhaust
16:38 SpectorDG: no need infinite
16:38 *SpectorDG is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/711786 Yooh - LegenD.]
16:39 Evening: .     w .) o ok
16:39 *SpectorDG is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/789827 penoreri - Preserved Valkyria]
16:39 SpectorDG: really no need
16:39 SpectorDG: it's SDVX 3
16:39 SpectorDG: so no need inf
16:39 SpectorDG: but im sometimes make inf :P
16:39 *SpectorDG is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/798950 P*Light - 2 MINUTES FIGHTERS]
thanks zenny
Arzenvald
4,033 posts
Joined July 2013
Arzenvald
irc, don't read
19:16 SpectorDG: unagggii
19:17 ajeemaniz: hi hi
19:17 *SpectorDG is watching [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/996296 syzfonics - Never Ending [GRAVITY]] <osu!mania> |Autoplay| |4K|
19:17 SpectorDG: can testplay this
19:17 SpectorDG: ugly map ? ;w;
19:17 ajeemaniz: give me a sec
19:18 SpectorDG: okiii
19:18 SpectorDG: it's dq'd owo
19:20 *ajeemaniz is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/996296 syzfonics - Never Ending [GRAVITY]] <osu!mania> |4K|
19:20 ajeemaniz: why dq?
19:22 ajeemaniz: omg
19:22 SpectorDG: [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/418410/start=45 here the reasons]
19:22 SpectorDG: people hates last part . . .
19:23 SpectorDG: gimme suggestion
19:23 ajeemaniz: the last part feels unbalanced
19:24 SpectorDG: im improved this 01:39:590 -
19:24 SpectorDG: it's sei's suggestion
19:24 ajeemaniz: 01:08:420 (68420|2) - i believe this part can use 1/4 stream
19:24 ajeemaniz: without LN
19:24 ajeemaniz: until 01:08:420 (68420|2,72620|2) - 
19:24 ajeemaniz: 01:08:420 (68420|2,72620|2) - 
19:25 ajeemaniz: oops 01:12:620 (72620|1) - 
19:25 ajeemaniz: 01:18:020 (78020|3) - until 01:22:220 (82220|0) -  too
19:25 ajeemaniz: to balance out the star rating as well
19:26 ajeemaniz: and the ending part is technically fine
19:26 SpectorDG: okay
19:27 ajeemaniz: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5334995 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5335000
19:28 ajeemaniz: the 1/3 part isn't really much problem
19:28 ajeemaniz: the current one is good, but if you want to make it less jacky, its good as well
19:29 SpectorDG: okay
19:29 SpectorDG: nice suggestion
19:29 ajeemaniz: look at how the 1/3 jack only covers after 1/1
19:29 ajeemaniz: it follows pr more better tho
19:29 ajeemaniz: since each transition is 1/1
19:30 SpectorDG: yea i see that
19:31 ajeemaniz: overall clean too
19:31 ajeemaniz: i just disagree with the kiai without 1/4 stream
19:32 SpectorDG: ok post it thread
19:32 ajeemaniz: ayy ok
19:32 ajeemaniz: no need to kudosu
19:35 SpectorDG: notice me if you posted
19:35 ajeemaniz: should i?
SpectorDG
1,167 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
SpectorDG
aaaa unagi thank you

too many IRC's lmao
Aruel
1,891 posts
Joined February 2014
Aruel
Thanks to all who helped this map.

Re-qualify, good luck!
SpectorDG
1,167 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
SpectorDG
thanks for all guys who support this map !

and thanks Blocko ♥
puxtu
2,926 posts
Joined August 2013
puxtu
can't really tell what you're trying to follow here in adv 01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - I almost can't hear anything when I play it
Loebad434
164 posts
Joined September 2014
Loebad434

puxtu wrote:

can't really tell what you're trying to follow here in adv 01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - I almost can't hear anything when I play it
try to play with speaker, not earphones
SpectorDG
1,167 posts
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Topic Starter
SpectorDG
@puxtu : I can hear 01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - that sound, It's 100% not ghost notes. Maybe if you cant hear, just try speaker the peak is tightened or change your earphones. Finally you can hear that.
puxtu
2,926 posts
Joined August 2013
puxtu
Like I said, I almost can't hear it. I never said there's no sound on that part. What makes me irk is the fact that you ignored the loud sound here 01:29:870 (89870|1,90020|2) - but you layered the weak sound in 01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - which is very confusing for me. You should have layered the obvious sounds and ignore the sounds that is hard to hear, not the other way around. Isn't that really basic in mapping technique? :/
SpectorDG
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Topic Starter
SpectorDG
01:27:620 - Just im following 1/4 stream here. Same of 01:32:120 -
01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - About that ? It's another sound, Im following this sounds on all 3+ diffs
Shinzo-
1,172 posts
Joined July 2014
Shinzo-
yeah spector is right we can hear da 01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) -
but we can hear it too on 01:34:970 - 01:35:045 - 01:35:157 - hueee

just my opinion...
since still on qualify

i'm out =w=)b
Takane6
978 posts
Joined June 2014
Takane6
hi spector !!!
im here after hve some review with this mappu =w=

===============
and there is it :
take a look both LN at EXH and GRV >> 01:18:020 (78020|3) - which is not in same length https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5371794 which is unrankable issues (?)
===============


and some opinion maybe (ignoreable)
[EXH]
from 01:37:220 - until 01:43:757 - you can add each white lane a note for emphasis the beat? and for a difference with diff ADV as well
------------------------------
[ADV]
01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - hmmm about what puxtu n shinzo hve pointed out... i can tolerate about this note in the EXH-GRV diff but maybe you can delete this in diff ADV...
since the sound ALMOST cant be heard... im telling this because if you make 1 note for that sound,this note here >> 01:35:270 (95270|3,95345|2) - also use 1 note while we know the note power there is very different...
btw you did keep empty at here 00:48:417 - because GRV and EXH hve the note inside right? so why not do the same as this then? >> 01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) -
------------------------------
------------------------------
also add note at here 01:15:245 - both diff EXH and GRV (refference as diff ADV)
===============


i hope this reallly can help you =w=)b
dont give up !!!
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SpectorDG
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Topic Starter
SpectorDG
im ignore all
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Akasha-
Nomination Assessment Team
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Akasha-
i think that 1/2 1/4 hold ending can be accecptable due to shield (however it should be end on 1/1 but if it's for shield, that's okay)
Ibrahim
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Joined July 2013
Ibrahim

Shinzo- wrote:

yeah spector is right we can hear da 01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) -
but we can hear it too on 01:34:970 - 01:35:045 - 01:35:157 - hueee

just my opinion...
since still on qualify

i'm out =w=)b
Harbyter
Beatmap Nominator
1,364 posts
Joined October 2011
Harbyter
actually what puxtu and ene said about the ghost notes is wrong, there are some little pitch there and they are audible


but the weight of this LN 01:18:020 (78020|3) - in the EXHAUST i beleave it's a mistake of the mapper for sure, it's clearly not intented
Surono
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Surono
apa susahnya nerima masukan yang bener, takut banget mapnya ga bisa ranked lagi. emang kira nuke?
Takane6
978 posts
Joined June 2014
Takane6

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

i think that 1/2 1/4 hold ending can be accecptable due to shield (however it should be end on 1/1 but if it's for shield, that's okay)
what shield? no shield note at there 01:18:020 (78020|3) - both GRV and EXH...
also the LONGER note here is the LN at EXH.... the LN at GRV is SHORTER...
Dellvangel
1,269 posts
Joined November 2014
Dellvangel
Just throw my opnion here, like KK said before, it's should be end on 1/1. And 01:18:020 (78020|3) - isn't a shield pattern imo. It's not about "rankable" or not, it's about the quality itself. It's better to change it since this map still in a qualify state.
Blocko
osu! Alumni
742 posts
Joined February 2014
Blocko
The community suggestions during this week's qualification would make the map better in terms of quality. It would also fix the LN issue between EXHAUST and GRAVITY, so please reply to those suggestions accordingly!

Disqualified for now so further improvements can be made.
SpectorDG
1,167 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
SpectorDG

Takane6 wrote:

hi spector !!!
im here after hve some review with this mappu =w=

===============
and there is it :
take a look both LN at EXH and GRV >> 01:18:020 (78020|3) - which is not in same length https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5371794 which is unrankable issues (?) Cheer up .. It's problem or not idk .. anyway fixed lol
===============


and some opinion maybe (ignoreable)
[EXH]
from 01:37:220 - until 01:43:757 - you can add each white lane a note for emphasis the beat? and for a difference with diff ADV as well hahaha NO!
------------------------------
[ADV]
01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - hmmm about what puxtu n shinzo hve pointed out... i can tolerate about this note in the EXH-GRV diff but maybe you can delete this in diff ADV... NOPE
since the sound ALMOST cant be heard... im telling this because if you make 1 note for that sound,this note here >> 01:35:270 (95270|3,95345|2) - also use 1 note while we know the note power there is very different...
btw you did keep empty at here 00:48:417 - because GRV and EXH hve the note inside right? so why not do the same as this then? >> 01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - KFC and Zen already noticed that .. and Im keep
------------------------------
------------------------------
also add note at here 01:15:245 - both diff EXH and GRV (refference as diff ADV) wat note
===============


i hope this reallly can help you =w=)b :v
dont give up !!!
Thanks for fake mod !

and Goodnight Never Ending
MEGAtive
1,656 posts
Joined August 2013
MEGAtive

SpectorDG wrote:

Thanks for fake mod !

SpectorDG wrote:

Just i said true. This mod really can helping me ? No

and she said hope D:
Srsly, can't you appreciate other people effort to help you? Her mod is pretty sound you should consider it first. But you turned down her mods and marked it as a fake mod. Even if you rejects all of the opinions, at least mention the reason instead of saying something like "HAHA NO!!" "NOPE!!". Right now you just act almighty AF as you right now always think you are right.

Now, put yourself in her situation. You're helping another person in ranking a map. But he/she said your mod is fake or trash. And he/she also clarify that you can't help him/ her. How would you feel?

I'm posting here so you could do an introspection on your mannering. No need to clutter this thread more about this. Just Chat me in-game or wherever if you still want to talk about this. I'm out.
Aste-
2,387 posts
Joined September 2014
Aste-
How to Pissed someone Off with Mod Reply 2K16

Nice job Spector
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Seiryuu
265 posts
Joined June 2013
Seiryuu
That pretty much sums everything up, thanks for posting this Mega.
Kyousuke-
1,796 posts
Joined May 2013
Kyousuke-

[-Seiryuu-] wrote:

That pretty much sums everything up, thanks for posting this Mega.
Ibrahim
1,191 posts
Joined July 2013
Ibrahim
this is really RUDE!
are you really a mapper?!

nah i think you're not!
Don't be arrogant!! your map can rank because people help you too! NOT BY YOUR SELF!!
PLEASE RESPECT ALL MODDER!
TCH!!
Rido
812 posts
Joined April 2014
Rido
The problem is not Takane, but you. Everybody loses their minds after maps has qualified, because it means that your map is spreading over community and more modders either critics will come to your map. And you have to prepared to face that

Spy ver2. Just because you can rank map you feels like you're special? Dude

Edit: Wow some people is angry bcs of this post. Spy fanboy kek
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Raediaufar
879 posts
Joined November 2014
Raediaufar
When this map is already dq, better to improve your map by looking through people mods and fix some stuffs rather than defending yourself.
And the purpose of qualified section is to let mass number of people to play and check your map. It's not wrong to put a mod when the map is qualified.
And because the map is dq as well, it means that qat is agree that some things needs to be fix before forward it to ranked section
AncuL
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Joined March 2013
AncuL
hello there friends
if you want your map to be requalified and (maybe) ranked. what you have to do is to do what the QAT is suggesting. who said that you need to address the concern from the community
...or not. just ignore your map and let your map be rest in peace. you cant just ignore everything and go straight through ranked state. thats just not how it works. of course unless you have a strong reason, which you dont right now
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
waduh spam mapper Indo, haha panggung sandiwara Indo poenya ya kawan2? good
cecete bener, gw se elitidnya ngemap ga sampe ngerudi tabuti kek gini (^:

contohlah khunlaw yg dulunya kek gini, kek yg poenya map inich.. ngerudi tabuti anak2 osh tapi skarang tobat. kek
gem cacad, pensi aja luw pada :V

edit:

Surono wrote:

apa susahnya nerima masukan yang bener, takut banget mapnya ga bisa ranked lagi. emang kira nuke?
ini :^)
dan yg gw tebak, kalau keDQ biasanya bakal terlantar dan ditinggal oleh orang2 yg udah ngurus ni map, source: pengalaman

sry to typing Indo cuz I just tell this to Indo dem users. k
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Shinzo-
1,172 posts
Joined July 2014
Shinzo-

Surono wrote:

waduh spam mapper Indo, haha panggung sandiwara Indo poenya ya kawan2? good
cecete bener, gw se elitidnya ngemap ga sampe ngerudi tabuti kek gini (^:

contohlah khunlaw yg dulunya kek gini, kek yg poenya map inich.. ngerudi tabuti anak2 osh tapi skarang tobat. kek
gem cacad, pensi aja luw pada :V

edit:

Surono wrote:

apa susahnya nerima masukan yang bener, takut banget mapnya ga bisa ranked lagi. emang kira nuke?
ini :^)
dan yg gw tebak, kalau keDQ biasanya bakal terlantar dan ditinggal oleh orang2 yg udah ngurus ni map, source: pengalaman

sry to typing Indo cuz I just tell this to Indo dem users. k
nge donkat yuk mas `L_
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