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like what can other people do that he cant? this is new for me , i thought he was the one who played with more mods than everyone else-Redlightning- wrote:
After reading what you guys have said, it makes sense that most of the top players would be able to climb that quickly if they had their accounts reset. Thanks for the repliesI don't believe that though, I don't think all of the top players could do some of his scores. But there are definitely scores that the others have done that he cant.Endaris wrote:
Any Top10 player plays as good as he does
yea but reimu is rank 5 after half a year and cookiezi is 3 in a month xDStephOsu wrote:
i see thisRilene wrote:
Don't mind me, farming my post count here.
And he will be the #1 soon.
OT : didn't reimu get into top 100 after 1 month of playing as well? iirc it did happen
He has trouble with streaming high bpmiderekmc wrote:
like what can other people do that he cant?
StephOsu wrote:
OT : didn't reimu get into top 100 after 1 month of playing as well? iirc it did happen
oh shit we're talking about a top player, better spam 'pls lock' like this topic is somehow not relevant to Gameplay and Rankings.
He just doesn't like high BPM that much.
Yeah, Image Material and Everything Will Freeze are pretty slow, right?HK_ wrote:
He has trouble with streaming high bpmiderekmc wrote:
like what can other people do that he cant?
He just doesn't like high BPM that much.
By high BPM i meant 250BPM++ and if you watched his streams youd know of his "war crys" after playing time freeze
we are here to farm post countB1rd wrote:
oh shit we're talking about a top player, better spam 'pls lock' like this topic is somehow not relevant to Gameplay and Rankings.
jk but no seriously at least im here to farm post count
don't you think that's it's absurd when xilver or hvick or WWW or any other top player did some incredible plays and no one bats an eye, but when it comes to cookiezi everybody rape their own minds?
trash post like this or this belongs to GD/Off-topic
"waaaahh why are you overhyping Cooikieeezii he's not someone to overhype about! fanbooooys! waaahhh"
literally keking right now
literally keking right now
Exactly what I'm thinkingStephOsu wrote:
don't you think that's it's absurd when xilver or hvick or WWW or any other top player did some incredible plays and no one bats an eye, but when it comes to cookiezi everybody rape their own minds?
Its called the "cookiezi effect"
ok what i just realized cookiezi got the first 700pp score
OMG GUYS HYPE HOLY SHIT WTF COOKIEZI GOD CONFIRMED
ok what i just realized cookiezi got the first 700pp score
OMG GUYS HYPE HOLY SHIT WTF COOKIEZI GOD CONFIRMED
Join date: 10 months agoEndie- wrote:
Its called the "cookiezi effect"
ok what i just realized cookiezi got the first 700pp score
OMG GUYS HYPE HOLY SHIT WTF COOKIEZI GOD CONFIRMED
would be cool if people who weren't here before his ban had the word cookiezi filtered from all their posts
And ingame.xxjesus1412fanx wrote:
Join date: 10 months ago
would be cool if people who weren't here before his ban had the word cookiezi filtered from all their posts
farming post count uu~ xd
Lowkeks revolving their life around Cookiezi plays and achievements.. Focus on yourself instead and just treat C(ena)ookiezi just like any other players, smh.
Lowkeks revolving their life around Cookiezi plays and achievements.. Focus on yourself instead and just treat C(ena)ookiezi just like any other players, smh.
Reddit has this thread everyday
suck to be in /r/osugameGumpyyy wrote:
Reddit has this thread everyday
It's Cookiezi, deal with it \:)/
You do realise that people don't automatically lose their skills from having no peppy points right? I forgot but someone did some janky calculation for what pp Cookiezi would have if he had all his old scores and whatnot, and it turned to be around 9k something I think. But anyhow, the point is, the only amazing thing about Cookiezi is whatever skill level he is at, not how fast he can get to the amount of pp that would reflect his skill level.Infevo wrote:
And I agree and think this and some other facts are what makes it so impressive. He barely played. He barely tried hard. And he didn't farm pp maps primarily like most of the other top players (absolutely legitimate; no question).
I mean while everyone else had 100k+ plays on him and was trying hard and playing a lot for rank he was just back for so short and took #3 with ease.
If this does not impress the competitive osu! play enthusiasts I don't know what should. He could easily be around 13k pp now with just another 1k plays on top. Overhyping Cookiezi's current skill level is plainly not possible. And this thread deserves to exist imho.
On another note, I'm pretty sure he had over 100k plays before his ban as well.
You don't just suddenly become good.
If only players like Rafis and Rohulk play osu 7 years ago Cookiezi might have rival. Now he is sole best player.
He's an offline player... I'm pretty sure of that 
We all know that Cookiezi is not playing this game since 2 months. My point is that he racked up 10k pp within 1k play count while many others didn't within 100k and more. This fact does not merely show his outstanding consistency (which is not amazing? further consider, he didnt farm pp maps exclusively and he was not trying too hard to get to #3, yet.). It shows that his current potential is very likely to be much higher than anyone else's in the whole ranking system.CXu wrote:
You do realise that people don't automatically lose their skills from having no peppy points right? I forgot but someone did some janky calculation for what pp Cookiezi would have if he had all his old scores and whatnot, and it turned to be around 9k something I think. But anyhow, the point is, the only amazing thing about Cookiezi is whatever skill level he is at, not how fast he can get to the amount of pp that would reflect his skill level.
On another note, I'm pretty sure he had over 100k plays before his ban as well.
You don't just suddenly become good.
Here is another thought to process: since our pp system only perfectly reflects one's skill when all scores a player achieved grant the same amount of pp (in an ideal world where the algorithm also has perfect legitimacy and credibility) and the highest score would set the bar of representative potential, and Cookizie's top score beats everyone else's top scores by about 15%, you can quickly figure out how much his skill level is above everyone else's right now.
btw we should stay aware talking about skill based on the pp algorithm exclusively. just in case someone is about to hatch out of one's know-it-all hole again.
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Because it took them 100k plays to reach a certain level?Infevo wrote:
We all know that Cookiezi is not playing this game since 2 months. My point is that he racked up 10k pp within 1k play count while many others didn't within 100k and more.
But I agree that cookiezi is the best hr player. If there were only more 7-8 star maps for him to get that precious pp =p
1161 PC for 77 scores and more than half of them are not fullcombos.
Additionally he practiced many of the maps before and also FC'd them before. It's not hard to gain good results for maps you already FC'd (potentially multiple times) and that you are familiar with. Rafis and hvick both repeatedly FC'd some of their topplays for accuracy and I remember how hvick recently did 4 plays above 500pp within 2-3 hours.
So yes, every top player is that consistent. Just look at how many FCs or close to FCs people got in the OWC finals. 300pp plays done within one try(on not so farmy maps).
If they weren't consistent they couldn't FC difficult maps to begin with.
Additionally he practiced many of the maps before and also FC'd them before. It's not hard to gain good results for maps you already FC'd (potentially multiple times) and that you are familiar with. Rafis and hvick both repeatedly FC'd some of their topplays for accuracy and I remember how hvick recently did 4 plays above 500pp within 2-3 hours.
So yes, every top player is that consistent. Just look at how many FCs or close to FCs people got in the OWC finals. 300pp plays done within one try(on not so farmy maps).
If they weren't consistent they couldn't FC difficult maps to begin with.
What the heck are you talking about? Defenders and The Last Journey Home got hyped like crazy. Naturally Cookiezi gets more hype because he simply has more viewers on Twitch and because his marketing was done really well (probably unintentionally) by streaming way before he got unbanned, such that he already had gotten some crazy scores when the unban happened.StephOsu wrote:
don't you think that's it's absurd when xilver or hvick or WWW or any other top player did some incredible plays and no one bats an eye, but when it comes to cookiezi everybody rape their own minds?
And if we're talking about HR there's no doubt Cookiezi is #1 in the world. We will see whether that's also the case for HDDT, although chances are big he cannot beat hvick.
I agree though: We got some impressive scores, but regarding rankings there's nothing special about him getting so far in so little time. He said himself that he wasn't rusty, so it's only natural he'd climb fast. Someone made a point about Reimu taking much longer, but this guy does so many drunk streams you can't even tell if he's seriously trying or just having fun.
It's still not locked ;-;
The only offtopic thing I see is people complaining about this thread not being locked.KINGDUNEGON wrote:
It's still not locked ;-;
and my post here, +1 Kappa
Because is it really that necessary talking about him how good he is ?
No. But 50% of G&R is "how do I get better" or "am I doing well?" shittopics anyway. This is a gem compared to those.KINGDUNEGON wrote:
Because is it really that necessary talking about him how good he is ?
People are going to talk about him no matter what, so personally I think it would be great if there would be a Cookiezi thread/IRC channel (or both) where people would be redirected to when they want to talk about him. Obviously there are people that don't like seeing the discussions all the time, so keeping the discussions in a single place would be beneficial to them too. As it is, a lot of people are talking about Cookiezi but his spectator channel (and Twitch channel) are the only places where it's considered acceptable. However, his spectator channel isn't always open (obviously) and his Twitch channel is external to this game (and the chat is also behind a paywall during the most interesting times), so they're really not that great.KINGDUNEGON wrote:
Because is it really that necessary talking about him how good he is ?
Threads to discuss individual players who do not start the thread themselves seeking help etc. is considered off topic in G&R. Citing specific players as examples is not. If you want to discuss specific players or information related to cheating/bans then you should flock to reddit where such things are permitted. Just remember discussing anything hush-hush anywhere is a bannable offense.
TL;DR mods are being lazy about not locking this thread.
TL;DR mods are being lazy about not locking this thread.
or maybe you guys could leave this thread drowned in the sea of G&R instead keep posting "It's still not locked!" thingy.
yeah cookiezi is #1 hr player in the world no doubt, but is it really necessary for people to create a post that deserves to be in off-topic or general discussion right here?Saphirshroom wrote:
What the heck are you talking about? Defenders and The Last Journey Home got hyped like crazy. Naturally Cookiezi gets more hype because he simply has more viewers on Twitch and because his marketing was done really well (probably unintentionally) by streaming way before he got unbanned, such that he already had gotten some crazy scores when the unban happened.
And if we're talking about HR there's no doubt Cookiezi is #1 in the world. We will see whether that's also the case for HDDT, although chances are big he cannot beat hvick.
I agree though: We got some impressive scores, but regarding rankings there's nothing special about him getting so far in so little time. He said himself that he wasn't rusty, so it's only natural he'd climb fast. Someone made a point about Reimu taking much longer, but this guy does so many drunk streams you can't even tell if he's seriously trying or just having fun.
Furthermore, I know that other scores are being hyped as well, but when it comes to having at least 2 shitpost in here and 10 thousand million replay of the same stream moment in youtube versus up to 1 post in here and a few videos on those plays in youtube, cookiezi is obviously overhyped to the point of being retarded
Granted, he literally dumpstered the top players in several area like highest pp plays or having highest concurrent stream viewers after coming back from a 2 year hiatus, but regarding rankings there's nothing special about him getting so far in so little time, so it doesn't deserves a shitpost like this
StephOsu wrote:
yeah cookiezi is #1 hr player in the world no doubt, but is it really necessary for people to create a post that deserves to be in off-topic of general discussion right here?
????Rules and Guidelines for GD wrote:
Just go to Gameplay & Ranking if you want to talk about osu! stuff, OK!
If you think a post should be in General Discussion, but it's about osu!, then it is right where it belongs when it is posted in G&R. It's not like GD is the place for lower quality posts, that's what OT is for.
okay i made a typo right there i meant to say off-topic or general discussion because there's some post that might look like it's for G&R but it's totally not related to eithersilmarilen wrote:
StephOsu wrote:
yeah cookiezi is #1 hr player in the world no doubt, but is it really necessary for people to create a post that deserves to be in off-topic of general discussion right here?????Rules and Guidelines for GD wrote:
Just go to Gameplay & Ranking if you want to talk about osu! stuff, OK!
If you think a post should be in General Discussion, but it's about osu!, then it is right where it belongs when it is posted in G&R. It's not like GD is the place for lower quality posts, that's what OT is for.
for example this shitpost
rip drum drumchainpullz wrote:
TL;DR mods are being lazy about not locking this thread.
I don't think you understand how the rankings work.Infevo wrote:
We all know that Cookiezi is not playing this game since 2 months. My point is that he racked up 10k pp within 1k play count while many others didn't within 100k and more. This fact does not merely show his outstanding consistency (which is not amazing? further consider, he didnt farm pp maps exclusively and he was not trying too hard to get to #3, yet.). It shows that his current potential is very likely to be much higher than anyone else's in the whole ranking system.CXu wrote:
You do realise that people don't automatically lose their skills from having no peppy points right? I forgot but someone did some janky calculation for what pp Cookiezi would have if he had all his old scores and whatnot, and it turned to be around 9k something I think. But anyhow, the point is, the only amazing thing about Cookiezi is whatever skill level he is at, not how fast he can get to the amount of pp that would reflect his skill level.
On another note, I'm pretty sure he had over 100k plays before his ban as well.
You don't just suddenly become good.
Here is another thought to process: since our pp system only perfectly reflects one's skill when all scores a player achieved grant the same amount of pp (in an ideal world where the algorithm also has perfect legitimacy and credibility) and the highest score would set the bar of representative potential, and Cookizie's top score beats everyone else's top scores by about 15%, you can quickly figure out how much his skill level is above everyone else's right now.
btw we should stay aware talking about skill based on the pp algorithm exclusively. just in case someone is about to hatch out of one's know-it-all hole again.
I didn't even see that typo, which means it doesn't change anything about the meaning behind my post.StephOsu wrote:
okay i made a typo right there i meant to say off-topic or general discussion because there's some post that might look like it's for G&R but it's totally not related to eithersilmarilen wrote:
????
If you think a post should be in General Discussion, but it's about osu!, then it is right where it belongs when it is posted in G&R. It's not like GD is the place for lower quality posts, that's what OT is for.
for example this shitpost
And that rip www post doesn't belong in GD either. In fact, it doesn't belong anywhere on the forum.
Why do you think that? How do you think I understand the rankings? How do the rankings actually work?CXu wrote:
I don't think you understand how the rankings work.
(the fact I have to waste my time to ask you 3 obvious questions you should've answered after your claim is boring. Don't waste my time.)
your statement that being able to get a lot of pp with a low amount of plays is amazing makes no sense unless you misudnerstood how the system works.Infevo wrote:
Why do you think that? How do you think I understand the rankings? How do the rankings actually work?CXu wrote:
I don't think you understand how the rankings work.
(the fact I have to waste my time to ask you 3 obvious questions you should've answered after your claim is boring. Don't waste my time.)
the way it does work: only your best scores are counted towards your pp, with the highest score being the only one giving its actual full value of pp to your total pp. All subsequent scores give only a percentage of their value as actual pp. this percentage drops lower for every score worse than another.
That's why a player can always climb back up to his previous rank after his account got wiped. He simpyl has to redo his highest value scores or something of equal difficulty.The thousands of scores that ppl like hvick have that give around 300 pp or less have zero effect on his pp.