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Hatsune Miku Append - Heart Rate 0822

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eveless
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010年12月13日 at 19:30:36

Artist: Hatsune Miku Append
Title: Heart Rate 0822
Source: CyoucyouP
Tags: Pokie Natsumerin papiyon vocaloid dark pianythm
BPM: 118
Filesize: 8016kb
Play Time: 04:44
Difficulties Available:
  1. Collab (4.75 stars, 576 notes)
  2. Normal (2.38 stars, 280 notes)
Download: Hatsune Miku Append - Heart Rate 0822
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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初音ミクAPPEND - 心拍数#0822 蝶々P

Collab by eveless , Pokie , NatsumeRin
Normal by eveless

please redownload this if you DLed it before 12.13
Pokie
8-)
kiririn_
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Mystica
8-)
NatsumeRin
[stress]

edit: irc modded
Krisom
Hm? You sure you wanna add "Append" as a part of the artist?
Append is an upgrade, not a character, so adding "append" to tags instead of artist makes more sense.
Also, add "soft" to tags (This is append soft, right?) and "vocaloid" to tags

DO NOT kudosu this.
Topic Starter
eveless

Krisom wrote:

Hm? You sure you wanna add "Append" as a part of the artist?
Append is an upgrade, not a character, so adding "append" to tags instead of artist makes more sense.
Also, add "soft" to tags (This is append soft, right?) and "vocaloid" to tags

DO NOT kudosu this.
I cant agreed
I'll do it like http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11834233 this

tags will add

and this is not soft...It's dark , as CyoucyouP's said . I will add dark but in fact who will search dark to find this song ?
kuyukiP
8-)
Topic Starter
eveless

NatsumeRin wrote:

[stress]
IRC modded
SPOILER
visualvr 22:14:41
01:43:355 (5,1) - 这种考虑换个slider么。。。或者1挪出去
夙淮卿 22:15:43
那移出去吧
visualvr 22:18:29
02:29:880 (3) - 考虑到和之前一致的话我觉得这个拖后1/2
夙淮卿 22:19:19

visualvr 22:19:59
其实我本来想说3/2什么的但是1/1我已经逐渐听惯了
夙淮卿 22:20:12
其实我也是..
visualvr 22:21:04
04:10:304 - 加个一拍折返?
夙淮卿 22:21:43
要加就加到白线吧...
夙淮卿 22:22:12
不我的意思是原来那个折返直接加两个折返
visualvr 22:22:34
或者。。我在想如果加怎么会比较方便不重排spacing
visualvr 22:22:40
能懒则懒
夙淮卿 22:23:00
很好办。。改那个折返的位置
visualvr 22:23:23
感觉上就是那个finish音一定是在按slider时出来的,之后的无所谓,现有的下个123还照现状比较好
visualvr 22:24:16
04:21:745 (4,5) - 拖后1/2建议
夙淮卿 22:26:02
...可是5结束在白线上刚好有鼓啊...
visualvr 22:26:21
主要是觉得起的位置有点奇怪
visualvr 22:26:22
5
夙淮卿 22:26:34
ok
夙淮卿 22:26:44
那5缩短>_>
visualvr 22:29:51
大概没了
Krisom

eveless wrote:

I cant agreed
I'll do it like http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11834233 this
Composers add "Append XXX" next to the character's name because they don't have anywhere else to put it. But the append series still use the same characters than the original ones, It's just a modified voicebank, not a different character, so it's still unaccurate to place "append" in the artist, it would be like adding "Gunther soft" in a Gunther song just because Gunther is singing in a soft pitch.

Take in mind, I'm not doing this to bother you or anything similiar, so do not take this as a hostile action, I'm just interested on having accurate artists/sources/songnames/tags on Vocaloid songs because nowdays the standards are really low.

eveless wrote:

I will add dark but in fact who will search dark to find this song ?
Thos who search for "append dark". Hopefully, there will be a wider use of the appends in the future aka: more append songs in osu!. Right now I've just seen this dark append, and Cardioid's soft append, but it's just a matter of time until composers start using appends more frequently.

Good luck with the mapset, I might mod this later if I remember.
Topic Starter
eveless

Krisom wrote:

eveless wrote:

I cant agreed
I'll do it like http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11834233 this
Composers add "Append XXX" next to the character's name because they don't have anywhere else to put it. But the append series still use the same characters than the original ones, It's just a modified voicebank, not a different character, so it's still unaccurate to place "append" in the artist, it would be like adding "Gunther soft" in a Gunther song just because Gunther is singing in a soft pitch.

Take in mind, I'm not doing this to bother you or anything similiar, so do not take this as a hostile action, I'm just interested on having accurate artists/sources/songnames/tags on Vocaloid songs because nowdays the standards are really low.

eveless wrote:

I will add dark but in fact who will search dark to find this song ?
Thos who search for "append dark". Hopefully, there will be a wider use of the appends in the future aka: more append songs in osu!. Right now I've just seen this dark append, and Cardioid's soft append, but it's just a matter of time until composers start using appends more frequently.

Good luck with the mapset, I might mod this later if I remember.
i really know Append is not different character but i still add it in the artist
but who give the rules that Vocaloid's artist must be character? not only osu but niconico
i just want faithful to the original work...Althougn Append is the same character but it's just like the same song in different version , like"piano ver.""mix"
I think Append just like different human dignity of the character :)

well , maybe osu will have more and more Append's map in the future , niconico have tags in the system but it's still "Hatsunke Miku Append" you know why? because of if you dont add Append then many people dont know Append , the same as osu , yeah you said that you can add it in tags , but i think more and more people dont see the tags . if you want more and more people know what is append , if you really want more and more append songs not just the original characters' song add in osu , i'd like you not to mention it again and again , you have your thougnts , also in others.

And everyone must know , I've just do the artist and title like the original . Heart rate 0822 the original's singer is Hatsune Miku Append , not Hatsune Miku , have no relationship with the character , just have itselves meaning.

cant explain it well in english but i will still used Append until it get ranked , if append will be delete in the artist , i will use re-interpretation verson by hebiashi or others

if you want to mod i will thanks for you
Sandpig
如此多大神让我MOD起来压力特别大[stress]……

Collab

00:48:948(1,2,3) 距离变化好突然……坑爹><... 只是说说,不用改
00:58:101(2,3) & 00:58:863(1) 这种排列不容易看出是三连音
01:12:592(4) & 01:13:101(1) 适当加大一些距离?
03:20:092(2) & 03:20:219(1) 有点远><
03:53:524(1,2) 建议分开……或者1,2,3都重叠
04:19:965(1,2) 建议1,2不要和前面的slider排在一条直线上

Easy

AI没看出啥问题,我打了一遍也没啥问题……总体感觉是个NORMAL,原因一个是由于三连音比较多很多与前边间隔比较长的NOTE在红线上,另一个是4分钟400多Max Combo的曲子对新手来说太辛苦了><

你们都是触手…… :oops:
Topic Starter
eveless

shabao_pig wrote:

如此多大神让我MOD起来压力特别大[stress]……

Collab

00:48:948(1,2,3) 距离变化好突然……坑爹><... 只是说说,不用改
00:58:101(2,3) & 00:58:863(1) 这种排列不容易看出是三连音三连音?
01:12:592(4) & 01:13:101(1) 适当加大一些距离?
03:20:092(2) & 03:20:219(1) 有点远><
03:53:524(1,2) 建议分开……或者1,2,3都重叠rin他坑爹不解释...
04:19:965(1,2) 建议1,2不要和前面的slider排在一条直线上^我记得我打起来问题不大

Easy

AI没看出啥问题,我打了一遍也没啥问题……总体感觉是个NORMAL,原因一个是由于三连音比较多很多与前边间隔比较长的NOTE在红线上,另一个是4分钟400多Max Combo的曲子对新手来说太辛苦了><必须要知道的是我也不想做完 但是不做完BAT和MAT都会有意见 顺便节奏是这样我也没办法 要知道一开始我可是1/1map的可是太卧槽...或许考虑改难度名

你们都是触手…… :oops:
Pokie

shabao_pig wrote:

如此多大神让我MOD起来压力特别大[stress]……

Collab

03:20:092(2) & 03:20:219(1) 有点远>< 改了
Download: Hatsune Miku Append - Heart Rate 0822 (eveless) [Collab].osu
wmfchris
[Collab]
0:48:694 (5,1,2,3) left 1 grid or 2?
0:53:779 (5) left 1 grid?
1:34:457 (7) up 1 grid
1:38:143 (2) right 1 grid is better, but it's fine for me
1:39:796 (1) should be symmetrical to last combo's (2)
2:12:719 (2) down to the grid, i.e., x:376 y:184
3:20:219 (1,2,3) uneven spacing
4:09:033 (3) direction of the slider unprovided, make an arrow in SB

star~
Pokie
Topic Starter
eveless
updated
Dotsu
~STAR~
Selee
[General]

  • Offset: 2176ms~2184ms? 现在的肯定off...
    The lead-in time is different...Consider to shorten Collab's?
    Disable the SB sound when vocal begins?
    BG?...
[Easy]

Difficult name changes to Normal due to the OD/AR setting and the length of the song?

Tick rate 1? If you use tick rate 2...Maybe you'd better think about these sliders
00:34:711 (1) 00:59:118 (1) 01:07:253 (1)


...wait...did you change your slider velocity?

I get it..sliders you need to shorten...
  • 00:34:711 (1) - Shoten 1/4 beat
    00:59:118 (1) - ^
    01:07:253 (1) - ^
    01:15:389 (1) - ^
    01:17:423 (1) - ^
    03:54:033 (T) - I think it's better to reduce the volume for 20%...Softhit is too loud for this part..

    I feel the new combo pattern is too random...some based on vocal, some based on your arrangement...anyway, doesn't matter...
[Collab]
(Do you guys really want any mod for this diff? ._.)

  • Pokie part: Reduce 10% volume? Sounds
    02:12:338 (1) - Remove new combo? (Or..02:28:609 (2) - new combo?)
    03:04:457 (2) - New combo?
    04:09:796 (2) - 10% volume tick rather than 0%?
    04:16:406 (1,2,3) - (Unreadable...etc. take care...)
(为什么NR的要摆左上角?...玩得时候都没看到 ._. 对比度不够啊)

Nice >_>
Topic Starter
eveless

Selee wrote:

[General]

  • Offset: 2176ms~2184ms? 现在的肯定off...我offset无能 不过这个offset是从100pa-那拿的>_>
    The lead-in time is different...Consider to shorten Collab's?都是0啊...
    Disable the SB sound when vocal begins?那不是sb音效...那是歌本来就有的...
    BG?...BG就是那个心 原BG
[Easy]

Difficult name changes to Normal due to the OD/AR setting and the length of the song? 啊忘了改回去

Tick rate 1? If you use tick rate 2...Maybe you'd better think about these sliders
00:34:711 (1) 00:59:118 (1) 01:07:253 (1)


...wait...did you change your slider velocity? 没改sv也没改tick rate真见鬼了...

I get it..sliders you need to shorten...
  • 00:34:711 (1) - Shoten 1/4 beat k
    00:59:118 (1) - ^
    01:07:253 (1) - ^
    01:15:389 (1) - ^
    01:17:423 (1) - ^
    03:54:033 (T) - I think it's better to reduce the volume for 20%...Softhit is too loud for this part..k
    I feel the new combo pattern is too random...some based on vocal, some based on your arrangement...anyway, doesn't matter...具体情况具体分析,new combo也一样
[Collab]
(Do you guys really want any mod for this diff? ._.)

  • Pokie part: Reduce 10% volume? Sounds
    02:12:338 (1) - Remove new combo? (Or..02:28:609 (2) - new combo?)
    03:04:457 (2) - New combo?
    04:09:796 (2) - 10% volume tick rather than 0%?
    04:16:406 (1,2,3) - (Unreadable...etc. take care...)
(为什么NR的要摆左上角?...玩得时候都没看到 ._. 对比度不够啊)男左女右

Nice >_>
Selee
[General]

Offset: 2176ms~2184ms? 现在的肯定off...我offset无能 不过这个offset是从100pa-那拿的>_> ._. 问问别人好了
The lead-in time is different...Consider to shorten Collab's?都是0啊...之前看到了...虽然设定是这样 但是玩的时候不同...
Disable the SB sound when vocal begins?那不是sb音效...那是歌本来就有的... [stress]
BG?...BG就是那个心 原BG 不是啊不是 我说的是800*600的PNG没问题么...大概会有人要求换到jpg吧..
....莫名其妙发了2个...囧
Selee
[General]

Offset: 2176ms~2184ms? 现在的肯定off...我offset无能 不过这个offset是从100pa-那拿的>_> ._. 问问别人好了
The lead-in time is different...Consider to shorten Collab's?都是0啊...之前看到了...虽然设定是这样 但是玩的时候不同...SB的原因? :(
Disable the SB sound when vocal begins?那不是sb音效...那是歌本来就有的... [stress]
BG?...BG就是那个心 原BG 不是啊不是 我说的是800*600的PNG没问题么...大概会有人要求换到jpg吧..
Topic Starter
eveless

Selee wrote:

[General]

BG?...BG就是那个心 原BG 不是啊不是 我说的是800*600的PNG没问题么...大概会有人要求换到jpg吧..
没问题呢._.
kino77
E姐威武~

[Normal]
00:21:745 (1) ~ 00:53:016 (3) - 音量降1-2格?
00:38:270 (1,2) - 交换new combo?
00:40:813 (1,2) - ^
00:45:643 (1) - 去掉new combo?
02:15:897 (1,2) - 交换new combo?

[Collab]
01:23:270 (4) - 被2,3挡到看不清,也影响了下面的4,5,6
02:20:474 (6,1) - 交换new combo?
02:24:033 (1) - 去掉new combo?
02:24:541 (3) - 去掉new combo?
03:06:236 (1) - 去掉new combo?
03:07:253 (5) - 去掉new combo?
03:09:033 (1,2) - 交换new combo?
03:11:067 (1,2) - ^
03:05:219 - KIAI time 70%音量?

STAR~!
Topic Starter
eveless

kino77 wrote:

E姐威武~

[Normal]
00:21:745 (1) ~ 00:53:016 (3) - 音量降1-2格? k
00:38:270 (1,2) - 交换new combo?k
00:40:813 (1,2) - ^k
00:45:643 (1) - 去掉new combo?k
02:15:897 (1,2) - 交换new combo?k

[Collab]
01:23:270 (4) - 被2,3挡到看不清,也影响了下面的4,5,6


STAR~!
Pokie

Selee wrote:

[Collab]
(Do you guys really want any mod for this diff? ._.)

Pokie part: Reduce 10% volume? Sounds e姐決定
02:12:338 (1) - Remove new combo? (Or..02:28:609 (2) - new combo?) 02:12:338 (1,2,3) - 我是想玩的時候這三個note中間是連著的 也就是出現虛線 所以必須一個combo>_>
03:04:457 (2) - New combo? 和沒有nc沒太大差別? 獨立了1出來反而奇怪 對我而言

kino77 wrote:

[Collab]
02:20:474 (6,1) - 交换new combo? 想形成02:20:219 (5,6) - 一組 02:20:728 (1,2,3,4) - 一組的感覺>_>
02:24:033 (1) - 去掉new combo? 為什麼:O
02:24:541 (3) - 去掉new combo? 什..什麼?
03:06:236 (1) - 去掉new combo? 03:06:236 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 這裡是一串
03:07:253 (5) - 去掉new combo?
03:09:033 (1,2) - 交换new combo? 看來和你的nc下法不太一樣..你都挑那種的 D:
03:11:067 (1,2) - ^


STAR~!
謝謝
NatsumeRin
@Selee:
第一点..确实不想要声,而且slider tick也已经最低无法避免所以用绿线了。。。
第二点据我所知不会出问题。
Topic Starter
eveless

Selee wrote:

[General]

Offset: 2176ms~2184ms? 现在的肯定off...我offset无能 不过这个offset是从100pa-那拿的>_> ._. 问问别人好了
The lead-in time is different...Consider to shorten Collab's?都是0啊...之前看到了...虽然设定是这样 但是玩的时候不同...
Disable the SB sound when vocal begins?那不是sb音效...那是歌本来就有的... [stress]
BG?...BG就是那个心 原BG 不是啊不是 我说的是800*600的PNG没问题么...大概会有人要求换到jpg吧..
....莫名其妙发了2个...囧

Edit: 又听了下...Offset的确该+10ms 而且是至少+10ms... ._.
offset我觉得69比79要好打至少...我会找人再听timing...
yongtw123
Hi hi~

[Normal]
An easy/normal diff for a song of this nature can't be very intuitive. So for the first 30 seconds of this diff, try using more sliders to introduce the rhythm.
And this is definitely NOT an easy :/

[Collab]
00:48:948 (1,2,3) - I'd space these out, really
01:23:270 (4,5,6,7) - I'd space these out from (3)
03:00:135 (4,5,6,7,1) - the spacing throws me off... Why not stick to x1.0?
04:18:440 (1,2,3) - these sliders are semi-hidden. I suggest not doing so?

Good patterns overall.
Plus good SB.

Star~
Garven
[General]
Really cutting it close on the length, haha.

[SB]
04:44:880 - Aww, I was kind of expecting the heart to start beating again.

[Normal]
01:27:592 (1) - Kinda soon after a spinner for the easiest difficulty. To be honest, the spinner feels a little short too. Might work better as a single note or a slider.
02:40:304 (4) - That finish really sticks out. :/
02:55:813 (4,5,6,7,8) - Eeh, can you come up with something more interesting than just a stack?
03:05:219 (1) - Kinda the same as before. Might work better as a normal beat/slider again instead of a shortish spinner.
Thing is that would leave no spinners for the difficulty. Think you could fit one in at the end? Maybe like from 04:40:813 -> 04:44:880 - ?

[Collab]
HP drain feels a bit high for this type of song, though this seems to be mostly a problem during eveless' part since there's a lot less circles to click.
Looks fine though~

*yawn* Now I have two songs to help me sleep. :P
Topic Starter
eveless

Garven wrote:

[General]
Really cutting it close on the length, haha.

[SB]
04:44:880 - Aww, I was kind of expecting the heart to start beating again. SB is made by 100pa- >.> I made a footnote before but he deleted it . Because it's Unfinished . Just yesterday he said he want to restart it so we will wait fo him <.<OK now

[Normal]
01:27:592 (1) - Kinda soon after a spinner for the easiest difficulty. To be honest, the spinner feels a little short too. Might work better as a single note or a slider. k
02:40:304 (4) - That finish really sticks out. :/moved :/
02:55:813 (4,5,6,7,8) - Eeh, can you come up with something more interesting than just a stack?k , but i dont know whether it is intertesting
03:05:219 (1) - Kinda the same as before. Might work better as a normal beat/slider again instead of a shortish spinner.k
Thing is that would leave no spinners for the difficulty. Think you could fit one in at the end? Maybe like from 04:40:813 -> 04:44:880 - ?
k

[Collab]
HP drain feels a bit high for this type of song, though this seems to be mostly a problem during eveless' part since there's a lot less circles to click.HP -2 now

Looks fine though~

*yawn* Now I have two songs to help me sleep. :P Now i find another sleeping song to map lol
DJPop
- Normal -
02:55:813 (4,5,6,7,8) - a little hard for the easiest diff, how about arrange them into a circle?
03:56:067 (4) - new combo

- Collab -
04:09:033 (3) - don't know if this is unrankable, but play well imo
TIMING 31,279 - remove


+Star
Topic Starter
eveless

DJPop wrote:

- Normal -
02:55:813 (4,5,6,7,8) - a little hard for the easiest diff, how about arrange them into a circle?changed to another pattern because Garven's modded
03:56:067 (4) - new combok

- Collab -
04:09:033 (3) - don't know if this is unrankable, but play well imo
TIMING 31,279 - removek


+Star
Colin Hou
[General]:
  1. disable the letterbox during break
  2. 建议把skip按钮也做成nameboard那种 整体看上去会好点 :3
  3. breaktime的heartbeat效果期望
[Collab]:
  1. 04:18:440 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - 这里2不好读 但是问题不大 能不能让04:19:711 (4,1) - 这俩换下地方... 突然原地点然后重叠这么多真的很难读 *_*
[Normal]:
  1. DT+HRable :D
1100W 迫不及待了... (口水ing)
Topic Starter
eveless

Colin Hou wrote:

[General]:
  1. disable the letterbox during breakk
  2. 建议把skip按钮也做成nameboard那种 整体看上去会好点 :3不会Q_Q
  3. breaktime的heartbeat效果期望
[Collab]:
  1. 04:18:440 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - 这里2不好读 但是问题不大 能不能让04:19:711 (4,1) - 这俩换下地方... 突然原地点然后重叠这么多真的很难读 *_*
wait for rin

[Normal]:
  1. DT+HRable :D
1100W 迫不及待了... (口水ing)
Cyril Scarlet
(´・∀・`)
lxy
:)
banvi
;)
SamiPale
你好,我是SamiPale,希望我的意见能够帮到你。

[Normal]
01:10:813(3) - 这里的Whistle移到(2)上,(3)的音效由音乐来顶替
03:00:643(1) - 这里其实是Normal音吧?

04:28:609开始的Hitsound听起来@_@
04:30:135(5) - 这里的Whitsle移到(6)上或者删掉?接下来的懒得看了建议remix

[Collab]
01:01:914(2) - 因为前面是jump,这里离得太近可能会按快。这里给我的感觉是应该离(1)远点的,不过好像很难改
01:18:440(3) - 离(2)的末尾远点,像这样粘上的话很容易当成1/4来打了
02:59:118(1) - 这里的combo换到02:59:880上会更好读
04:09:033(3) -

不浪费kudosu了
Topic Starter
eveless

SamiPale wrote:

你好,我是SamiPale,希望我的意见能够帮到你。...

[Normal]
01:10:813(3) - 这里的Whistle移到(2)上,(3)的音效由音乐来顶替k
03:00:643(1) - 这里其实是Normal音吧?哦耶...怎么变soft了...

04:28:609开始的Hitsound听起来@_@@_@
04:30:135(5) - 这里的Whitsle移到(6)上或者删掉?接下来的懒得看了建议remix我改.

[Collab]
01:01:914(2) - 因为前面是jump,这里离得太近可能会按快。这里给我的感觉是应该离(1)远点的,不过好像很难改k
01:18:440(3) - 离(2)的末尾远点,像这样粘上的话很容易当成1/4来打了k
02:59:118(1) - 这里的combo换到02:59:880上会更好读
04:09:033(3) -

不浪费kudosu了小气<.<
kodomonoyume
>.<
orioncomet
[Collab]
00:49:711 (7) - wrong spacing?
03:09:668 (3) - a bit too far from (2) imo, look like pass this note at 1/2. for Ex. spacing of (3) -> (4) is much better.
04:09:033 (3) - can't read way the silder go.

well done, you all.
a normal look fine.
Topic Starter
eveless

orioncomet wrote:

[Collab]
00:49:711 (7) - wrong spacing?change the pattern
03:09:668 (3) - a bit too far from (2) imo, look like pass this note at 1/2. for Ex. spacing of (3) -> (4) is much better.fixed
04:09:033 (3) - can't read way the silder go.add a sb to remind it

well done, you all.
a normal look fine.
all fixed
thanks > <
Topic Starter
eveless
add sth in SB
TTTTTTTTTTTT
star~
NanaDesu
:?
ken710
;)
Topic Starter
eveless
change sth in sb

Garven
Recheck~

IRC modding concerning unnecessary transparencies in the SB images.

Happy eveless day!!


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NatsumeRin
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