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Heart of Air - Blue Flow

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Topic Starter
wowshakhov
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 22 января 2011 г. at 13:23:59

Artist: Heart of Air
Title: Blue Flow (TV Size)
Source: Haibane Renmei
Tags: zorlok_
BPM: 80
Filesize: 9928kb
Play Time: 01:18
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,71 stars, 78 notes)
  2. Hard (4,18 stars, 139 notes)
  3. Zorlok_'s Normal (2,15 stars, 95 notes)
Download: Heart of Air - Blue Flow (TV Size)
Download: Heart of Air - Blue Flow (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hyde
nice :3

star ^^
Zorlok_
Звезда. :3

Держи дифку.

Download: Heart of Air - Blue Flow (wowshakhov) [Zorlok_'s Normal].osu
Hushu_old
Its short but I like the beat sequence~ :)
*Attention Please~!*
rockleejkooo
star~
Hushu_old
As you modded mine, I'll mod yours - lec hope that is a good thing :]

General:
Distance problems :<

Normal:
-I don't think there is a beat 2 at the first combo...
- Delete beat at 10:464 and <-> the previous slider? :<
- Make the circle at 1:04:089 a slider till 1:04:651 then, inbetween the distance to the new slider, do x1.2. The fallowing slider should just be -> not <-> :? ... Add a slider at 1:05:214 till 1:05:776~

Hard:
1st Combo:
-The secon slider should be 1/4 of a snap and then <->.
- Add a circle at 0:09:670
- Circles 7 & 8 should 'get together' and become a slider. (a slider foing from where 7 use to be to where 8 use to be :])
Additional Proposition: Add a beat at 0:09:857..?
3rd Combo: <-> note number 2 (the 1st slider)?
4th Combo:
- Move 1st note (slider) 1/4 of a snap back and place a note 1/4 of a snap before.
5th Combo:
Additional Proposition: Make speed x0.75. Move slider 1/4 of a snap backwards..? (Go back to x1 before spinner.)
Topic Starter
wowshakhov
Partially done
theowest
Very good very good!

Just wanted to let ya' know about some stuff.

I recomend playing around with ALL the tools you can find in the editors thing.
Make sure someone can try using double time for Easy, Normal and maybe Hard. It usually depends on how hard you want it, and how fast the BPM is.
Make sure someone can try using hardrock for easy, normal and hard too.
Hidden and flashlight is ALWAYS possible for any diff, it just takes time to master it. :)


Remember to always get inspiration from other beatmaps! You see what other people do, if people like that, then if you have it, then they must like yours too? There's a wide range of Mapping Techniques. It's stuff you usually see in other beatmaps. Such as a stacking stream, jumps, slider art etc. Mapping Techniques can be found here: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewforum.php?f=61 It's very useful if you're new to beatmapping.
There's this poll there were you can vote what you think about them. When you've done that you can see what other people think. If there's a lot of people who likes Cutting Sliders for example, then you should be using cutting sliders! ;)

General questions can be found here: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewforum.php?f=56
And remember! Don't just play around with osu!, go around and look for cools things on this website too! It's awful lot to learn about beatmaps, so you better be learnin', y'know what I'm sayin'? ;D

Other sounds can be added through storyboard.
You might already know, but there's something called "storyboard" where pictures, sprites, sound and actions are used in a story for the beatmap. Example of that can be these two beatmaps: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/15375 and http://osu.ppy.sh/s/6818
To find beatmaps with storyboard, just check the little box called "Has storyboard" next to the Language box in the Beatmap Listning.
Storyboards looks very cool and replaces video in many surcomstances.
Sound in Storyboard can be shown here: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5381 < EXCELLENT BEATMAP! Make sure yours look as good. ;D


STARED!!

Kudosu me for this please! :D

When you have read my shitty advices you can always ask other people! Go to mod request and such in the chat channels in osu!.

Download new and good rating beatmaps which you can get ideas from. If a beatmaps has a good rating, it means people like that beatmap so you need to make it look more like that beatmap. Y'know what I'm saying? Get inspirating. Play a lot of different NEW, GOOD beatmaps. If you don't play Hard yourself, you can always start playing hard and learn more about it.
Let someone else make a difficulty too! Ask a good beatmapper to make a insane for example! :D

If you like what I've told ya', then thank me by giving me a kudosu and take a look at my beatmap: viewtopic.php?t=42141 , Star it, mod it! Anything helpful! :D This is all up to you. Just giving you the information.
Topic Starter
wowshakhov
Thank you for star! and for copypasted modding post -.-
ZLOdeuka-
Hello~

[Генерал]
Ооочень длинная песня...Нужно обрезать

[Нормал]

Обратила внимание на киаи мод ...

01:00:339 00:59:589 - закончить тут и начать тут 01:01:089

01:05:589 - закончить ~ 01:07:089 начать

01:00:339 - новое комбо

01:01:089 - добавить финиш

[Хард]

спинеры страшные...может вместо таких коротких поставить слайдеры?

с киаи тоже самое что в нормале Зорлока

00:16:089(5,6,7,8,9) - даже по снапу видно - так близко располагатса 6 не может. и вообще чтото не понятное ... Тут всё по снапу.

00:28:464 ^^^^^ ненадо делать этого.это хард.значит делай всё по снапу - это можно спутать например с этим 00:57:339 исправь всё подобное.

01:04:651(5) - интервал.

01:07:089 - финиш

01:10:089 - ^

мило~
ZLOdeuka-
STAR~
poorguyorz
Hi, I just walked past and see this map. What a nice song.

Do you mind if I mod your map for you?

It's also welcome for you to have a look at mine. :)
Topic Starter
wowshakhov
i'll be pleased if you mod it =)
IceBeam
Надо бы подравнять бэкграунд до 1024 х 768.
Не думаю,что сильно растянется.

Битрейт MP3 выше критерия,но т.к. мапа была загружена достаточно давно,ещё до новых правил,то можешь оставить.

Автора гостевой сложности добавь в тэги в Нормале.

Source различается в сложностях,исправь.
И если это эндинг,приписать (TV Size) к названию? Если конечно полная существует.

Цвета комбо на сложностях различаются, это недопустимо с одинаковым БГ.
И кстати,в твоей сложности 3/4 цвета почти идентичны,что тоже нужно убрать.
Так что определись со цветом.

[Normal]
HP Drain до смешного высок.На 3-4 тика назад.
А вот OD я бы на 1 поднял.
00:14:589 (3) - Слишком близко к предыдущему объекту.
01:04:839 (7) - Плохо звучит,убирай ноты с синих тиков.

[Hard]
00:15:714 (3) - Убери ноту.
00:15:151 (2) - Передвинь на 00:15:339.
00:15:151 - Добавь ноту.
00:15:901 (4) - Убери ноту.
Именно в такой последовательности ^

00:43:839 (1) - Слишком короткий и неожиданный спиннер.Замени.
00:48:339 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Дистанция здесь меняется постоянно,но раз уже выделено там где надо новое комбо,то,в общем,пойдет,раз уж симметрия.
00:53:214 (4,5,6,7,8) - Не в ритм.
00:53:964 - Добавь ноту.
00:54:151 (8) - Слайдер убери,и замени двумя нотами: 00:54:339 и 00:54:714.
00:57:714 (3) - Убери финиш.
01:01:089 (4) - Добавь финиш.
01:03:339 (2) - Подравняй под слайдер.
01:14:401 (7) - Замени одной нотой на 01:14:589.
01:16:276 (2) - Я бы убрал.
01:16:839 (3) - Опять же замени одной нотой здесь же,на 01:16:839.
В целом неплохой ритм,симметрично и без ошибок.Только хотелось бы слышать больше свистков,хотя-бы как в Нормале.

Сам мапсет вполне годный,только я бы добавил изи, т.к. нормал сложноват для новичков будет.
Не ленись,короткая ведь песня.

В целом очень даже хорошо,звезда~
poorguyorz
Hi, I'm back. Sorry for the late reply.

I just noticed that I didn't turn on the notification.

It looks like IceBeam has got most of the things fixed.

I might just give you some suggestions on the hitsound, it's too quiet if you don't use any soft-whistles.

Of course I'll keep the song as quiet as possible, since the song is peaceful and calm.

Mods
[Zorlok's_ Normal]
This diff imo is more like an Easy or Easy+.

[Hard]
00:08:589 (3) - Add whsitle
00:12:339 (3) - ^ (not the whole slider, put it on the beat only.)
00:15:339 (3) - ^
00:19:839 (5) - ^
00:20:589 (_) - ^
00:22:839 (4) - ^
00:23:589 (_) - ^
00:24:339 (1) - ^
00:27:339 (8) - ^
00:28:839 (2) - ^
00:31:089 (3) - Add whsitle. Make the hitsound volume a little louder.
00:32:589 (4) - Add whsitle
00:34:464 (7) - Remove finish
00:34:839 (8) - Add whsitle
00:37:839 (2) - ^
00:39:339 (3) - ^
00:40:839 (8) - Add finish
00:43:839 (4) - ^
00:46:089 (3) - Add whsitle
00:46:839 (5) - ^
00:49:089 (2) - Remove finish
00:49:839 (4) - Add whsitle
00:52:089 (3) - Add finish
00:53:589 (6) - Add whsitle
00:54:339 (10) - ^
00:55:089 (1) - Add finish. Increase the hitsound even louder.
00:56:589 (3) - Add whsitle
00:57:339 (1) - Remove finish, add whsitle
00:58:464 (5) - Remove finish
00:58:839 (6) - Add finish
01:00:339 (1) - Add whsitle
01:02:589 (1) - ^
01:04:089 (4) - ^
01:04:839 (5) - ^
01:05:589 (_) - ^
01:09:714 (3) - Remove finish
01:10:839 (5) - Add whsitle
01:13:464 (6) - ^
01:15:714 (3) - ^
01:16:839 (4) - ^

You might want to skip some of the hitsound changes as I might over-do it.
But remember, I spent a lot of time doing them, so please take all of them in to your consideration.

Nice map, star.
Hushu_old

wowshakhov wrote:

Thank you for star! and for copypasted modding post -.-
Its heartless, isn't it? :(

wowshakhov wrote:

His very general mod isn't helpful at all, you can write this on every beatmap of the novice mappers and they will give kudosu in response. He's pretty smartass, if you want kudosu, work for it, if you just helping as you can, don't beg for kudosu.
My bad I had to give kudosu for one repair of a spinner :/
Topic Starter
wowshakhov
His very general mod isn't helpful at all, you can write this on every beatmap of the novice mappers and they will give kudosu in response. He's pretty smartass, if you want kudosu, work for it, if you just helping as you can, don't beg for kudosu.
Gonzvlo
General
  1. I'm not an expert but try this offset: 7,098~7,102 (don't forget to re-snap all the notes)
  2. The Mp3 is 256kbps, You need to find another one or re-encode it to 128~192kbps.
Zorloc_'s Normal
  1. Increase the volume 1 or 2 ticks on all the timing sections.
  2. 00:51:700 (2) - Remove this or add "Whistle" because it doesn't sound ok.
Hard
  1. 00:29:575 (4) - Add a Whistle, It's really needed.
  2. 00:37:075 (1,2) - Stack (2) with the end of (1) correctly.
  3. 00:53:200 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - This looks messy, try something like this
  4. 00:59:575 - Increase volume 1 or 2 ticks.
  5. 01:05:575 - ^
  6. 01:11:575 - ^
No major problem with the mapset, Good Job.
Weez
General
- IMO you should combine the first two kiai times into one.

Easy
Fine

Normal
Fine

Hard
00:55:100 (1) for the second slider point, just make it a normal points to its curved

In my queue you broke one of my rules >:U but meh seems complete to me so its ok

What would improve this map is a insane diff (gonna be hard since to song is soooooo damn slow >.<)

anyways star and nice map
aesopl19193
[Hard]
00:22:850 (4) - whistle at start

[Normal]
good

[Easy]
good

star :)
Muya
hi :)


General
  • ● offset : 1090 ?
Easy
  • ● 00:26:225 (2) - add whistle to 2nd note
    ● 00:32:975 (2) - ^
    ● 00:51:350 (6) - ^
    ● 00:52:100 (1) - add whistle
    ● 01:18:350 (1) - ^
Zorlok_'s Normal
  • ● 00:24:290 (1) - add whistle
    ● 00:26:540 (6) - ^
    ● 00:27:290 (7) - ^ at 1st note
    ● 00:42:290 (1,2) remove whistle
    ● 00:43:790 (4) add whistle to 1st note
    ● 00:45:655 (2,3) remove whistle
    ● 00:46:790 (4) add whistle to 1st note
    ● 00:49:415 (2,3) remove whistle
    ● 01:04:040 (7,11) add whistle
    ● 01:12:665 (2,4,5) remove whistle
    ● 01:15:665 (2,4,5) ^
    ● 01:19:040 (1) add whistle
Hard
  • ● 00:22:790 (4) - add whistle to last note
    ● 00:26:165 (6) - ^
    ● 00:36:290 (9) - ^
    ● 00:43:040 (3) - add whistle
    ● 00:50:540 (1) - ^ (2) - add whistle to 2nd note


+star~
Kamure
sorry for the slight delay, here's the mod..

By Mod Request:

General
Offset: 1080

haha, thats it.....

dont kudosu this post
Topic Starter
wowshakhov

chamelepeace710 wrote:

mod
Anyway, thanks =)
wmfchris
[Hard]
00:09:902 (5) - down 1 lv4 grid
00:18:715 (2,4) - (2) up 2~3 lv4 grids, (4) up 1 lv4 grid
00:22:465 (3) - right 1 lv4 grid
00:49:090 (2) - down 3 lv4 grids

[Zorlok_'s Normal]
nice.

[Easy]
nice too.

star~
Crazy Jay
[Hard]
00:43:790 (4) - new combo

no kds
TTTTTTTTTTTT
Here i am

Easy
nice.

Zorlok_'s Normal
nice.

Hard
01:17:165(x) - note

suggestions(imo)
00:20:727(x) - note
00:20:915(x) - ^
00:23:727(x) - ^
00:23:915(x) - ^
00:29:727(x) - ^
00:29:915(x) - ^
00:30:290(x) - ^(add a whistle hitsound)
00:30:665(x) - ^
00:33:852(x) - ^
00:44:727(x) - ^
00:44:915(x) - ^
00:47:727(x) - ^
00:44:915(x) - ^

This song is relaxing~ingore my suggestions ;)

star
Topic Starter
wowshakhov

H-boy wrote:

Here i am

Easy
nice.

Zorlok_'s Normal
nice.

Hard
01:17:165(x) - note no :S

suggestions(imo)
00:20:727(x) - note yes
00:20:915(x) - ^ yes
00:23:727(x) - ^ yes
00:23:915(x) - ^ yes

00:29:727(x) - ^
00:29:915(x) - ^
00:30:290(x) - ^(add a whistle hitsound)
00:30:665(x) - ^
(I want to keep this part as it is, otherwise it would be too messy)

00:33:852(x) - ^ same here
00:44:727(x) - ^ i dont's hear these notes here
00:44:915(x) - ^ no
00:47:727(x) - ^ no
00:44:915(x) - ^ no

This song is relaxing~ingore my suggestions ;)

star
Kurai
[General]
Offset 1078

[Easy]
01:10:828 (5) - This slider is too close from the previous circle.

[Zorlok's Normal]
00:50:578 (5) - Move 1 grid up and 1 grid left
00:49:078 (1,2,3,4,5) - And move them 1 grid right :>

[Hard]
00:53:203 (4) - New combo
00:58:453 (5) - Remove finish, sounds nicer
01:06:328 (1) - Too close from the previous slider


Nice relaxing song and map :3
Star~
Topic Starter
wowshakhov
Thanks a lot! =)
Kuroneko-sHerald
[General]
No video?
I've read that you want to storyboard lyrics, but I think that with a video it should be better, even with the SB.

[Zorlok_'s Normal]
01:05:015 (9) - Please delete it, it doesn't fit the vocal.
01:06:515 (2) - Same here.

[Hard]
01:15:515 (2) - I think that this doesn't fit the vocal part, but if you delete it you lose the symmetry. So you can re-place the beat after the change or ignore this suggestion.

Good map and song.

Star! ;)
Topic Starter
wowshakhov

Kuroneko-sHerald wrote:

[General]
No video? maybe i'll put it in =)
I've read that you want to storyboard lyrics, but I think that with a video it should be better, even with the SB. SB making is going on ve~ry low speed because of my laziness =(

[Zorlok_'s Normal]
01:05:015 (9) - Please delete it, it doesn't fit the vocal. done
01:06:515 (2) - Same here. no

[Hard]
01:15:515 (2) - I think that this doesn't fit the vocal part, but if you delete it you lose the symmetry. So you can re-place the beat after the change or ignore this suggestion. yes it's for symmetry, i just like this pattern =)

Good map and song. Thanks :)

Star!
gdeath
[Easy]
00:57:328 (2,3) - Could add a note between both of them since you mapped the same rthytm on 01:00:328 (5,6,7) or remove a note for the later part?

[Zorlok_'s Normal]
00:19:828 (4) - Would sound better if you adjusted the volume as 20%
00:22:828 (4) - ^
00:43:828 (4) - ^
00:46:828 (4) - ^
00:55:078 (1) - Volume 40%
00:58:078 (5) - Volume 35%
01:01:078 (4) - ^
01:07:078 (4) - Both whistle & finish were mixed up, i dont feel sound nice.I suggest to remove the whistle and turn down the volume on volume 35%
01:13:828 (5) - ^
01:16:828 (5) - Volume 35%

[Hard]
I recommend to adjust the volume as 25% for all hit-finsih before 00:55:078
01:18:328 (1) - Remove the whistle since other diffs were not added whistle for this same spinner?

/me shoots star.
Colin Hou
[Hard]:
  1. 00:16:828 (6) - use whistle instead of finish
  2. 00:17:578 (8) - remove whistle
  3. 00:22:078 (3) - whistle
  4. 00:40:828 (8) - too loud
  5. 00:58:828 (6) - use whistle instead of finish
  6. 01:07:828 (4) - ^
  7. 01:09:328 (1) - remove finish
others are good, star~

very nice first map
Sallad4ever
Hi wowshakhov

[General]
- this whistle is very fit to this song
Download: soft-hitwhistle.rar
place this to your folder then change the timing section where you want to use the custom sound into custom override 1 (in the audio tab of timing panel). Make sure to full submit if you add this
- either it's video or SB you really should add it, this song is so beautifull it's kinda dull with only bg (I recommended using both :D)
- you should join the first and second kiai, 3 kiai time is too redundant
- extend the 3rd kiai to 01:18:328
- using 4 grid level to make a symmetry slider could break your eyes (for me it is), just saying :p

[Easy]
00:32:953 (2) - remove the whistle from the slider slide, it stands out too much
01:00:328 (6) - add NC (new combo)
01:18:328 (1) - add timing section with 30% volume then add whistle at the end of the spinner?

[Normal]
00:13:078 (2) - NC
01:18:328 (1) - add timing section with 30% volume then add whistle at the end of the spinner?

[Hard]
00:26:203 (6) - add whistle at the end
01:03:328 (2,3,4) - the hitsound on these notes is kinda random imo, my suggestion are:
01:03:328 (2) - change into whistle
01:03:703 (3) - remove finish
01:04:078 (4) - add finish at the start
01:18:328 (1) - add timing section with 30% volume then add whistle at the end of the spinner?

Nice map :D
~star
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