saradisk - 168 - 401 · forum

Secretpipe

3,316 posts

Joined December 2012

Secretpipe 2016-01-28T20:31:28+00:00

fix bg kappa

Ovoui

995 posts

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2016-01-29T18:27:38+00:00

Aldwych wrote:
olala

[Caca Insane]

00:08:473 : Ce genre de slider dans une insane comme ca, ça fait un peu tache :V Je ne vois pas en quoi c'est mauvais, pourrait tu donner une raison stp ?
00:15:073 : Perso, ce genre de pattern bien carré carré, ca fait odd. Le rotater un peu serait cool imo. Bah c'est pas si mal que ça je pense, puis la flemme de rotate ça nique mon spacing et ça nique le stack de 00:15:523 (6,3) -
00:19:273++ : Ce n'est au nouveau que mon avis mais les streams stacké sur la fin des sliders donne un mouvement global assez bizzare, tu bouge tu reste un peu tu bouge tu reste un peu. Perso je suis pas fan. :V Si je devais fix ça, je devrais tout remap donc flemme :c
00:32:398 : C'est un 1/4 ca ? Woot? xD Na c'est trop espacé plz xD c'est pas trop espacé puisque que mon sacing moyen est respecté puis l'ar9 et largement suffisant pour pouvoir le lire, et je ne comprend pas pourquoi il n'y a que celui ci qui te gêne
00:41:998 : Idem blabla et pareil pour la suite
01:16:273 : Cet overlapp est priceless :'D Bah c'est joli je trouve

Dsl j'ai rien accepté :c

Constipé finit.

Aldwych

2,831 posts

Joined February 2012

Aldwych 2016-01-30T01:39:25+00:00

Ovoui wrote:
Aldwych wrote:
olala

[Caca Insane]

00:08:473 : Ce genre de slider dans une insane comme ca, ça fait un peu tache :V Je ne vois pas en quoi c'est mauvais, pourrait tu donner une raison stp ? Le slider est mégalong alors que y'a pas mal de truc a mapper ici
00:15:073 : Perso, ce genre de pattern bien carré carré, ca fait odd. Le rotater un peu serait cool imo. Bah c'est pas si mal que ça je pense, puis la flemme de rotate ça nique mon spacing et ça nique le stack de 00:15:523 (6,3) - Feignasse :3
00:19:273++ : Ce n'est au nouveau que mon avis mais les streams stacké sur la fin des sliders donne un mouvement global assez bizzare, tu bouge tu reste un peu tu bouge tu reste un peu. Perso je suis pas fan. :V Si je devais fix ça, je devrais tout remap donc flemme :c
00:32:398 : C'est un 1/4 ca ? Woot? xD Na c'est trop espacé plz xD c'est pas trop espacé puisque que mon sacing moyen est respecté puis l'ar9 et largement suffisant pour pouvoir le lire, et je ne comprend pas pourquoi il n'y a que celui ci qui te gêne Je mentionne pas que celui-la, mais je confirme que c'est hard imo
00:41:998 : Idem blabla et pareil pour la suite
01:16:273 : Cet overlapp est priceless :'D Bah c'est joli je trouve J'espère que t'es le seul, on doit pas avoir la même vision d'élégance :<

Dsl j'ai rien accepté :c np m8 <3 jtm quand même

Constipé finit.

Akiyama Mizuki

2,710 posts

Joined March 2009

Akiyama Mizuki 2016-01-30T10:37:49+00:00

le thread dominated by french

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-01-30T11:20:22+00:00

bbj0920 wrote:
le thread dominated by french

Halp me ;w;

Tarrasky

1,203 posts

Joined March 2014

Tarrasky 2016-01-30T12:34:53+00:00

some tips to help

Ovoui's Insane

00:26:473 (1,2) - hm maybe you can use the same timing from 00:03:823 (2,3) - 00:13:423 (2,3) -, can be a bit confuse this moment, or I think is better you start this slider 00:27:373 (2) - in 00:27:073 -
00:36:073 (1,2) - 00:45:673 (1,2) - 00:55:273 (1,2) - same /\
01:09:073 - 01:13:873 - not sure if is good you ignore this moment (can listen a sound here), i think you can map here add a circle
00:54:823 (6,7,8,1) - this pattern It is clearly more intense than all the mapset, i think you can nerf here
00:28:273 (3) - hm i prefer in x:212 y:332, maybe you can test, this improve a bit the flow

great map, congrats ^^

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2016-01-30T12:38:25+00:00

Exa wrote:
Enozho's Extra:

00:40:723 - Please add a not here, it feels really weird having that empty while playing. ✐ I don't think like that. It seems fit with song enough since there is only "eung?" this voice.
00:41:473 (4) - Why not stack the note I suggested placing with this one's head? ✐ I did explain at above.
00:41:473 (4,5,6,7,1) - This actually really hard to read compared to the rest of your patterns. Not only because it's cramped like that but also because most of (1) is being overlapped, having it's sliderbody route unclear... ✐ I wanted that. It was made for hard to read. I want keep these if It wouldn't be any issue.
00:41:773 (6) - Not to mention that the beat contained within this one's head is not emphasized at all for the sake of the pattern. Try using a bit more spacing with this one. ✐ That's not bad idea. but, I don't think I have to change these patterns even if I ignored the sound.
00:57:221 - Slider edge is unsnapped! ✐ What's mean of you..?
01:02:473 (1,4) - Stack properly. ✔ Oops XD
01:16:573 (8) - I would sooner see this replaced with a slider since the "uuum.." sounds like something one would hold to create. ✔ Good idea!
01:16:798 - If you did replace the last thing I suggested with a slider, make sure it ends here and not on the red tick! ✔ Done
- Very clean and self-explanatory difficulty, well thought patterns and interesting rhythm choices without notable inconsistencies. You could use more of the mapping area though to un-cramp your patterning though >.< Well done in the long run! /w\

Thank you for modding!

CODE

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Ovoui

995 posts

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2016-02-02T14:58:46+00:00

Tarrasky wrote:
some tips to help

Ovoui's Insane

00:26:473 (1,2) - hm maybe you can use the same timing from 00:03:823 (2,3) - 00:13:423 (2,3) -, can be a bit confuse this moment, or I think is better you start this slider 00:27:373 (2) - in 00:27:073 - I think the actual rhythm fits better because, the volume of the sund mapped decreases during this moment (00:26:473 - 00:27:298 - ) and then the volume begin increases here 00:27:373 -
00:36:073 (1,2) - 00:45:673 (1,2) - 00:55:273 (1,2) - same /\ ^
01:09:073 - 01:13:873 - not sure if is good you ignore this moment (can listen a sound here), i think you can map here add a circle indeed, iwe can clearly hezr a sound here but, this part is really slow (compared to the rest of the song, so it's okay to undermap imo) and i tried to map only the vocal
00:54:823 (6,7,8,1) - this pattern It is clearly more intense than all the mapset, i think you can nerf here done
00:28:273 (3) - hm i prefer in x:212 y:332, maybe you can test, this improve a bit the flow want to keep the straight line made with the circle to be consistent with 00:46:873 (1,2,3) - + the flow isn't bad imo

great map, congrats ^^ ty

thanks for the mod

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Nozhomi

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Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-02-02T18:48:16+00:00

Aldwych wrote:
olala

Mod4Nozhomi

[General]

Lyrics : "Constipé Constipé Con Constipé DoDoDooooooo"

Je sais pas si je pourrais mod toutes les diffs (eh je suis tacos pléyeur :V)
401 - 168 = 233 Preskilluminati.

But wait!
4 - 1 = 3
1 - 6 + 8 = 3
:V V:

[Easy]

J'trouve la SV un peu fast imo. D'ou le SR :V

00:03:973 : Je sais pas si t'as cherché a blanket mais c'est pas bien fait :V - Fix
00:4:473 : L'overlapp est pas sex imo. :< - Gj t'as fail ton c/c.
01:13:573 : Pourquoi pas circle + slider comme tu as fait avant? J'trouve que c'est plus cohérent, la, le break de 3/2 est pas habituel. - Fix

J'aime bien le rythme tho.

[Normal]

00:26:473 : Je comprends l'utilité du slider, mainteant, je pense que tu peux mettre aussi un spinner comme tu as fait plus loin. Au choich. - C'est juste que pour le 2eme, le spinner fait office de transition avec le kiai c'est pour ça.
00:27:673 : Dans le cas ou si tu ne met pas de slider (sinon ignore), je pense pas que le 3/2 break sois une bonne idée, imo un double 1/2 slider est pas mal. - J'ai laissé le slider, mais j'avoue que ça puait un peu ce truc, donc j'ai changé le rythme et pattern.
00:44:773 : J'ai pas tout checké dans les distance mais celui-la est pas bon :V - Fix
01:08:473 : Apparement AI mod n'est pas content de la distance ici Kappa - Fix

Mwoui, Ok. Par contre j'arrive pas a réellement aimer le rythme au moment du kiai, surement parce que les hitsounds, bah y'en a pas :V

[Insane]

00:38:923++ : Ce genre de sliders m'as assez surpis, on a un rythme assez rapide, et un SV plutot fast aussi, et ces sliders sont assez long et me donnent l'impréssion qu'ils sont lent aussi. J'ai un peu du mal à l'expliquer mais comparé aux autre sliders qui sont plutot court, on à une map qui va assez vite, et ca c'est lent. - J'ai pas de solution à t'apporter ici :/

Pas grand chose à dire non plus, c'est assez propre imo. Après mon modding skill en standart se dépérit de plus en plus (comme mon playin skill :V) - Rip

Extra = GTFO look at my std pp m8. - RIP²

Je confirme j'ai bien rigolé - C'est déjà ça :>

Constipé finit.

Uguu~
And updated~ Waiting for Aia-chan.

Yuzeyun

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Yuzeyun 2016-02-02T22:17:47+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
bbj0920 wrote:
le thread dominated by french
Halp me ;w;

아니
(stardessert)

Nozhomi

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Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-02-02T22:42:22+00:00

_Gezo_ wrote:
아니
(stardessert)

♥

Aldwych

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Aldwych 2016-02-03T23:16:56+00:00

Constipé star

Kawashiro

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Joined April 2012

Kawashiro 2016-02-04T10:06:46+00:00

No kds

[Ovoui]
off Wide screen support
00:35:998 (8) - Move to 268 252

Nice map, I can't find any problem GL

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-02-04T11:56:19+00:00

Aldwych wrote:
Constipé star

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa so much staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars olala

you're crazy boys ><

Ovoui

995 posts

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2016-02-04T12:45:45+00:00

Ok nozhomi j'ai encore merdé, je vais essayer d'arranger ça. Orz

Ovoui

995 posts

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2016-02-04T18:09:42+00:00

UnLock- wrote:
No kds

[Ovoui]
off Wide screen support
00:35:998 (8) - Move to 268 252 the spacing used in this diff is very consistent, so i can't change it sry :c

Nice map, I can't find any problem GL

ty

-GriM-

181 posts

Joined February 2015

-GriM- 2016-02-04T21:26:52+00:00

Torpedo:
01:07:569 (2) - why does spacing go from high to low? dont really get it.. not empthasizing anything
00:23:473 (1,2,3,4,5) - I would nerf this just a tiny bit, just my opinion though considering the map is pretty hard by itself
00:28:573 (1,2,3,4,1) - I would space this instead of letting it sit under that slider
00:33:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - same with 23:473, just my opinion
01:00:523 (5,6) - kinda off, doesnt sound very good
01:16:423 (9) - maybe end a bit more quieter to make it sound a bit better?

Enzoho's Extra
00:03:073 (6,7) - a bit to much spacing imo
00:24:523 (4,5) - would sound better if there was a beat in between these
00:36:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - personally, I would probaly hold this stream a bit longer until the reverse sliders but its fine if its kept the same.
00:42:673 (1,2,3,4,5) - arrange these a bit better please
00:44:623 (2,3,4,5,6) - this random spacing is kind of weird but thats just my opinion
00:52:273 (3,4,5,6,7) - same with 42:673
01:16:573 (8) - sounds weird, maybe lower volume idk

Ovoui's Insane:
00:03:823 (2,3) - I feel like this would sound better with something in between.
00:05:623 (4,5,6) - Maybe make angle a bit sharper?
00:28:198 (2,3) - might be a bit too hard.
00:47:398 (2,3) - ^
rest is fine, but 00:02:473 (1,2,3) - the double after this slider's spacing may be a bit over board and this reoccurs, but its probaly ok.

Insane:
00:06:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I would improve this pattern a bit, kind of weird to read.
other than this, this is very well done, congrats!

Well, I guess this concludes it. Good Luck!!!
BOSKIDI
also not sure about bikini bg but nothing is showing really so it should be ok

Last edited by -GriM- 2016-02-05T21:55:39+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Ovoui

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Ovoui 2016-02-04T22:37:10+00:00

-GriM- wrote:
Ovoui's Insane:
00:03:823 (2,3) - I feel like this would sound better with something in between. indeed
00:05:623 (4,5,6) - Maybe make angle a bit sharper? done
00:28:198 (2,3) - might be a bit too hard. i think it's okay, even if i'm a bad player, i can play it easily
00:47:398 (2,3) - ^ ^
rest is fine, but 00:02:473 (1,2,3) - the double after this slider's spacing may be a bit over board and this reoccurs, but its probaly ok. i don't know , i will consider it!

ty!

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Taeyang

Elite Mapper

1,209 posts

Joined June 2013

Taeyang 2016-02-05T02:05:20+00:00

Enon M4M req

General

AudioLeadIn: 2000

Easy

00:02:473 (1,1) - stack you can be better
00:08:473 (2) - i think blanket too near how do you like this?
SPOILER
00:11:173 (3,1) - avoid stack
00:19:273 (1,2,3) - just use 1.2 DS?
00:30:073 (1,1) - remove NC

Normal

00:00:073 (1,2) - why not symmetry?
00:15:673 (3,4) - blanket you can be better
01:01:873 (4) - curve too much suggest like this
SPOILER
01:07:273 (1) - this slide looks better
SPOILER

Aia's Hard

00:00:073 - add finish sound?
00:01:273 (5) - remove NC? just use 2downbeat NC term
00:11:323 (7,8,9) - how do think you this rhythm? 00:11:623 (8) - and add note stack here slidehead 00:11:773 (9) -
SPOILER
00:15:673 (1) - remove NC
00:27:373 (4) - make half stack? for reading
SPOILER
01:16:798 - end here like another diff

Insane

00:06:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - add some slide circles too much
00:18:673 (1) - remove NC? and 00:18:373 (3,1) - make follow point
00:55:273 (1,3) -00:55:573 (2,4) - make same space

Ovoui's Insane

00:00:073 (1) - add finish?
00:00:073 (1,2,3) - use same DS 00:02:473 (1,2,3) - like here
00:08:473 (7) - NC? just use one downbeat NC term
00:17:173 - remove didn't used greenline
00:27:673 (1,2,3) - avoid jump stream pattern because that's EX pattern too hard
00:37:273 (3) - NC 00:27:673 (1) - like here

Enozho's Extra

00:00:073 (1) - add finish sound?
00:07:198 (11) - use same ds x185 y65
00:13:273 (1,2) - avoid stack
00:18:973 (1) - remove NC? 00:09:373 (7) - like here 00:28:573 (1) - same
00:31:273 (1,4) - blanket space like here?00:32:023 (5,7) -
01:11:623 (1) - remove NC and suggest
SPOILER

Torpedo

00:03:073 (6,7) - i think blanket too near here is pattern suggest
SPOILER
00:05:473 (5,6) - blanket you can be better
SPOILER

good luck~!

Akiyama Mizuki

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Akiyama Mizuki 2016-02-05T04:10:12+00:00

_Gezo_ wrote:
아니

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Affirmation 2016-02-05T06:15:03+00:00

m4m.

[easy]
00:06:673 (3,1) - I think this overlap is not good in Easy.
00:08:473 (2,1) - 1.23x
00:19:273 (1,2,3) - why they are 1.4x?
00:33:073 (2,1) - I think this not perfect blanket.
00:42:673 (3,2) - why this is overlap?

[normal]
00:26:323 (4,1) - I think this stack is difficult for beginners.
01:03:673 (2,1) - stack error?
01:06:073 (2,3,4) - How about make triangle?

[aia's hard]
00:23:473 (7) - http://puu.sh/mWr46/c0611c71c6.jpg
00:35:923 (1) - NC is not necessary...
00:57:973 (2,3,7) - these are too near.
01:12:373 (1) - Remove NC.

[Insane]
00:00:073 (1,2) - beat is in 00:00:298 - here. http://puu.sh/mWrgD/d560253518.jpg
00:20:173 (5,4) - Why they are overlap? I Think stack is better.
00:57:973 (2,1) - http://puu.sh/mWrns/d4ff21101e.jpg

[ovoui's insane]
00:05:398 (2,4) - stack error
00:26:473 (1,2) - this reverse slider is hard to read. http://puu.sh/mWrvQ/8b7778a88e.jpg this is recommand.
00:36:073 (1,2) - ^
00:45:673 (1,2) - ^
00:55:273 (1,2) - ^
01:01:873 (8,1) - This overlap looks bad.
01:13:423 (7) - stack error?

[enozho's extra]
01:11:623 (1,1) - I think this stack is bad...

[torpedo]
nothing to say

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Kawashiro 2016-02-05T09:22:45+00:00

@Ovoui

I already take kudos in this mapset so i dont want to mod other diffs, sor

Nozhomi

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Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-02-05T16:59:53+00:00

I'm answering for Aia this time only, she'll do the other.

Exa wrote:
Aia's Hard:

00:01:273 (1,2) - These...
00:01:873 (3,4) - And these contain the exact same sounds and should be represented using the same rhythm! Diversity is cool but skipping sounds that you've mapped before when you are clearly not following something else is a no-no.
00:01:273 (1,2,3,4) - Also again the sounds that are contained with these...
00:06:073 (5,6,7,8) - Are the exact same with these. Please be consistent... - Used now same rhythm for both, consistency is better.
00:06:523 (6) - And please do not try to justify misrepresenting the SAME sounds by saying "Variety." because you end up mapping sounds out of the blue, making the rhythm confusing as if the song already isn't enough.
00:11:323 (7) - Like... There are some really prominent sounds on the background but you decide to map this... You even skip actual bass beats in the process which makes it even more weird. I get that you are trying to make it somehow interesting but try doing that using diverse movement, no false/inconsistent/on-weak-sounds rhythm.
00:13:873 (7) - Ctrl+G, stack it nicely and Ctrl+G back. - Fix
00:09:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These...
00:14:473 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - And these also contain the same sounds. Despite that, they are rhythmically inconsistent, partly treated with different spacing and their comboing is not the same. I would very much like to provide you with alternatives but that would require changing the whole pattern, as well as some stuff before and after it but I will leave this to you so you can change it according to your linking; if you actually do change it. - That's fine for me, just changed 00:09:673 (1) - and 00:14:473 (1) - who was inconsistent wih 00:15:673 (1) - .
00:18:973 - While the difficulty level is rising, you are allowed to map more sounds, therefore I feel like this one should not be left untreated for. How about placing a 1/2 slider 24,164 rotated by roughly 6 degrees like so? - Not a necessity imo.
00:21:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The inconsistencies are pretty clear if you take a look of 10 seconds. However, looking though the map once again I am starting to feel like this map's fun is defined by the diversity of rhythm and spacing on constantly repeating sounds which unfortunately requires inconsistencies to be made. I will not be pointing out any more inconsistencies from now on nor how they might affect the playability of certain patterns since I seem like I want you to change everything. - Just changed 00:25:273 (5,6) - who was really too inconsistent and imo really hard.
00:28:573 (7) - If you used a slider on the same sound as I recommended before, please do so here as well. - Rip
00:43:273 (1,2) - This very much looks like a 1/2 time gap due to the narrow object placement and due to the comboing being constant.
(If only you'd be using a slider instead of a note for this sound just like you have been doing up until now) - Changed it to have an enough good spacing.
00:53:773 (4,5) - This really sounds like a sound that would be generated by holding something down. It even feels better if there is a slider on it! How about trying something like this? - So yeah it could be, but honestly not worth with the jump and pattern. Also works for drums here so it's k.
01:07:273 (1,2,3) - Not using constant DS here is pretty much pointless. Not only that but you end up with two slider touching each other in a really ugly way, which I find to be very inappropriate. (In other words: You can get rid of the overlap, do it!) - Fix
01:16:798 - Since almost every other difficulty ends here, it is recommended that this does as well. - Her choice is a valid one tho.
- I kinda explained my feeling for this difficulty whilst modding it. So yeah, if the song is consistent and you are actually making a map representing the song, that map should also be consistent. Don't go against the basic structure of the map for the sake of making it more "fun" because that only results in more confusing rhythm -> not fun.

-GriM- wrote:
Torpedo:
01:07:569 (2) - why does spacing go from high to low? dont really get it.. not empthasizing anything - This part is calm compared to before, so I wanted to do it like that to relax players from all this tension.
00:23:473 (1,2,3,4,5) - I would nerf this just a tiny bit, just my opinion though considering the map is pretty hard by itself - Hard yes.
00:28:573 (1,2,3,4,1) - I would space this instead of letting it sit under that slider - Dunno but it's fine for me.
00:33:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - same with 23:473, just my opinion - ^^
01:00:523 (5,6) - kinda off, doesnt sound very good - Agree, fixed.
01:16:423 (9) - maybe end a bit more quieter to make it sound a bit better? - 10%

Enzoho's Extra
00:03:073 (6,7) - a bit to much spacing imo - Use standard spacing.
00:03:073 (6,7) - I would space these, it would just be over all better to play - You failed your copy/pasta
00:24:523 (4,5) - would sound better if there was a beat in between these - I prefer let it more simple than kill the pattern.
00:36:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - personally, I would probaly hold this stream a bit longer until the reverse sliders but its fine if its kept the same. - I prefer keep the 3 reverses sliders.

Insane:
00:06:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I would improve this pattern a bit, kind of weird to read. - Changed.
other than this, this is very well done, congrats!

Well, I guess this concludes it. Good Luck!!!
BOSKIDI
also not sure about bikini bg but nothing is showing really so it should be ok

Taeyang wrote:
Enon M4M req

General
AudioLeadIn: 2000 - No need, the game put it one itself at start of a map.

Easy
00:02:473 (1,1) - stack you can be better - Fix
00:08:473 (2) - i think blanket too near how do you like this?
SPOILER
00:11:173 (3,1) - avoid stack - The stack is ok, because NC makes it readable.
00:19:273 (1,2,3) - just use 1.2 DS? - Fix
00:30:073 (1,1) - remove NC - Fix

Normal
00:00:073 (1,2) - why not symmetry? - Because rest of pattern won't work. Anyway I changed it.
00:15:673 (3,4) - blanket you can be better - Fix
01:01:873 (4) - curve too much suggest like this - Fix
SPOILER
01:07:273 (1) - this slide looks better - Fix
SPOILER

Insane
00:06:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - add some slide circles too much - Fix added 2.
00:18:673 (1) - remove NC? and 00:18:373 (3,1) - make follow point - Fix
00:55:273 (1,3) -00:55:573 (2,4) - make same space - Fix

Enozho's Extra
00:00:073 (1) - add finish sound? - Did for all diffs.
00:07:198 (11) - use same ds x185 y65 - Fix
00:13:273 (1,2) - avoid stack - Fix
00:18:973 (1) - remove NC? 00:09:373 (7) - like here 00:28:573 (1) - same - Added NC instead of removing it.
00:31:273 (1,4) - blanket space like here?00:32:023 (5,7) - - Not needed, I like it like this.

Torpedo
00:03:073 (6,7) - i think blanket too near here is pattern suggest - Just move a little slider to the right.
SPOILER
00:05:473 (5,6) - blanket you can be better - Done on purpose because of note stacking.
SPOILER

good luck~!

Neoskylove wrote:
m4m.

[easy]
00:06:673 (3,1) - I think this overlap is not good in Easy. - Fix
00:08:473 (2,1) - 1.23x - Fix
00:19:273 (1,2,3) - why they are 1.4x? - Fix
00:33:073 (2,1) - I think this not perfect blanket. - Fix
00:42:673 (3,2) - why this is overlap? - Fix by redo ALL PATTERN ;w;

[normal]
00:26:323 (4,1) - I think this stack is difficult for beginners. - Ok with NC.
01:03:673 (2,1) - stack error? - Fix
01:06:073 (2,3,4) - How about make triangle? - Fix

[Insane]
00:00:073 (1,2) - beat is in 00:00:298 - here. http://puu.sh/mWrgD/d560253518.jpg - I prefer use a simple rhythm here.
00:20:173 (5,4) - Why they are overlap? I Think stack is better. - Not visible in-game and could destroy spacing.
00:57:973 (2,1) - http://puu.sh/mWrns/d4ff21101e.jpg - Fix

[enozho's extra]
01:11:623 (1,1) - I think this stack is bad... - That's fine and easy to read.

[torpedo]
nothing to say

Thx all you guys~
Updated

Enon

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Enon 2016-02-06T03:59:12+00:00

Taeyang wrote:
Enon M4M req

Enozho's Extra
01:11:623 (1) - remove NC and suggest ✐ 전 지금이 더 나은 것 같네요. 슬라이더 방향만 고쳤습니다.
SPOILER

good luck~!

Neoskylove wrote:
m4m.

[enozho's extra]
01:11:623 (1,1) - I think this stack is bad... ✐ 슬라이더 방향만 고쳐 봤습니다.

모딩 감사합니다~~

@Nozhomi: 01:11:623 - Please change it like this. CTRL + J?

Nozhomi

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Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-02-06T15:21:03+00:00

@Enon done~

Cryptic

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Cryptic 2016-02-07T07:15:10+00:00

Tired and from #modreq

[Insane]

00:03:373 (6) - Blanket the 5 better.
00:14:923 (3) - Reposition the 3 to better make a triangle with 2 and 4.

[Ovoui's Insane]

00:03:223 (4,5,6,1) - Having to change direction (6>1) like that from a straight line jump just plays really awkwardly.

[Enozho's Extra]

00:33:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - Inconsistent DS

[Torpedo]

00:08:773 (2,3,4,5,6) - Conceptually, I get the difference in spacing, but in execution it looks kind of shotty. Perhaps make the transition a bit more gradual near the end?
00:09:373 (7,8,9,10,1) - ^

[]
Sorry I didn't find more, it looks pretty close to ready for me ;;

Ovoui

995 posts

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2016-02-07T19:26:40+00:00

Taeyang wrote:
Hi Taeyang!

Ovoui's Insane
00:00:073 (1) - add finish? there is already a finish here
00:00:073 (1,2,3) - use same DS 00:02:473 (1,2,3) - like here fixed
00:08:473 (7) - NC? just use one downbeat NC term done
00:17:173 - remove didn't used greenline done
00:27:673 (1,2,3) - avoid jump stream pattern because that's EX pattern too hard that's not a stream, it's a triplet. I don't think i'ts too hard because i make a lot of pattern with the same spacing before this moment.
00:37:273 (3) - NC 00:27:673 (1) - like here

good luck~!

ty ~

Neoskylove wrote:
Hi Neoskylove

[ovoui's insane]
00:05:398 (2,4) - stack error i think you failed your copy/paste
00:26:473 (1,2) - this reverse slider is hard to read. http://puu.sh/mWrvQ/8b7778a88e.jpg this is recommand. it's not hard at all to read imo! It follows well the song imo and the ar9 make it easy to read
00:36:073 (1,2) - ^
00:45:673 (1,2) - ^
00:55:273 (1,2) - ^
01:01:873 (8,1) - This overlap looks bad. fixed
01:13:423 (7) - stack error? fixed

Thanks for the mod!

CrypticMech wrote:
Hi CrypticMech

[Ovoui's Insane]
00:03:223 (4,5,6,1) - Having to change direction (6>1) like that from a straight line jump just plays really awkwardly. why not, but can you give me a suggestion ? i really don't know what to do

thank you o/

SPOILER

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Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-02-07T20:34:02+00:00

Ahoy, from m4m'ing

General

01:07:273 - I'm pretty sure this is only 100BPM from here on, dunno whether or not it needs to be correct for rank but I just wanted to point it out ^^
Maybe raise the offset by +2ms, I sounds a bit too early in the outro and I was noticably late when playing with HalfTime too

Easy

This mapset needs at least 1 Easy/Normal diff. jk, SV is stronk ^^
tbh I think the AR might be too low considering the BPM and stacks like 00:11:173 (3,1) and 01:03:673 (2,1) - You can potentially see 4/1 ahead which is a bit too much / too dense I think
00:11:173 (3,4) - This might be kinda weird to play, adding to the stack it might confuse the beginners too
01:01:573 (3,2) - Heil stacking!
01:07:273 - Maybe lower the SV from here on, to represent that the BPM is halfed here? This isn't forbidden in Easy y'know

Normal

00:25:723 (2,3,4,1) - Using stacked and spaced 1/1s right after another might be too confusing, dunno, you didn't use it anywhere else either so I'd recommend changing that one too - I don't see any particular reason to stack (4,1) anyways, I'd rather stack (3,4) and unstack those, might be a bit easier to read too maybe
00:49:573 (5,6) - I feel like the note that (5) ends on is already a part of the vocal pattern of (6), so mapping it like this feels kinda weird to me
Again suggesting to lower SV at 01:07:273
All these 3/2-sliders in the outro may feel nice but that rhythm is not given in the song at all, there is no strong note at 01:07:723 - 01:10:123 - 01:12:523 - 01:14:923 to justify those, and tbh extending them to 2/1 feels more appropriate anyways imo since this is the outro, and half-BPM so it should be calmer to play

Hard

00:02:473 (1,2) and 00:07:273 (1,2) - The 3/4-gap feels very unnatural to play when it's after a tail, and especially since 00:00:073 (1) and 00:04:873 (1) have been mapped as 1/1 it's unexpected too as they are exactly the same, so I'd recommend changing those to 1/1 too, or map something on that empty white tick too
00:05:923 (4,5,6) - I don't really see what those are mapped too, there's isn't anything that is off-beat or syncopated, and you didn't map anything like this anywhere else in the whole diff (except the outro where the offbeat-sliders are supported by the vocals)
00:13:273 (5,7) - Uuuh I don't think perfectly stacking them 1/1s is good, and you didn't even perfectly stack 3/2s like 00:16:123 (2,4) so I don't see why you did it here. Also, 00:26:773 (2,4) are 3/2 too, so keep it consistent please! I don't know how sliders behave exactly now with the fae-out, so 00:34:273 (3,5) and 00:51:073 (3,5) might count as more than 3/2
00:29:098 (2) - All sliders like this one have a way stronger sound on their tail than on their head, so those play really bad / unnatural, plus 1/4-rhythms haven't been introduced yet (except triplets ofc) so yeah. Even I had trouble playing this bc it's so weird lol, pleeaase change all of those
01:10:273 (3,4,5) - Ah, seems like you don't have stacking viewed in the editor, that would explain the random perfect stacks - Here, the stack shifts the first circle exactly in the direction of the slider, causing them to overlap which isn't very pleasing, please fix that - Same with 01:12:973 (3,4,5) -, and 01:15:673 (5,6,7) could use some more space too
01:12:373 (1) - Why the NC?
Seems kinda weird / imbalanced that there's only a single clickable triplet in the whole diff, at 00:09:523 (3,4,1) -, I'd say either remove that one or put more of them into the map, it's just imbalanced for no apparent reason

Insane

00:57:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Whoa lol, the Hard had only a single clickable triplet (and that might be deleted since it's imbalanced), and then in the next diff a stream of 9? Definitely seems to much, and the starrating drops by 0,09* too if you delete that one, soo yeah, pls nerf that one
00:15:673 (1,2,3) - Even without slider-leniency, those are basically spaced the same as 00:16:873 (1,2,3,4) -, adding slider-leniency to it they are spaced way too low for which I see no reason o: A consequence of that is 00:16:273 (3,1) not stacking lol
00:16:873 (1,2,3,4) - Why are those actually spaced way more than 00:26:473 (1,2,3,4) or 00:45:673 (1,2,3,4) or 00:55:273 (1,2,3,4) etc. anyways?
00:18:373 (3) - I think you could map this as a double in an Insane, feels way better to play
00:21:373 (5,6,1,2,3) - I kinda miss a differentiation between those two combos, at (5,6) the vocals are kinda special and the background beats are completely paused, but then it just flows nicely into the next combo which doesn't feel appropriate at all - Stacking (5,6) would fit very well imo, but yeah, just do anything you want as long as it differentiates between those combos better
00:38:923 (3) - Just like in Normal, all of these 3/4-sliders are just invented rhythm, not provided by the song, and feel very weird when they first occur
00:45:073 (5,6,7) - Pretty high spacing, also compared to 00:40:273 (4,5,6) -, and 00:45:373 (7,1) looks kinda cramped in comparision to that

Ovoui's Insane

00:03:823 (2,3,4) - Uuuh adding that circle in-between makes this incredibly stupid to play and read - The player expects to click the downbeat at 00:04:273 since that is a very important note, additionally those are extremely high spaced, even higher than for example 00:02:473 (1,2,3) or 00:04:873 (1,2,3) for some reason - All in all that is just extremely unexpected, weird and hard to play, pleeaase re-do all those patterns, they are the most difficult things in the whole diff
00:40:573 (7) - Absolutely everything halts at 00:40:648 so making this a slider doesn't fit at all (theoretically making it 1/4 would fit since the sound of the drum-kick is that long but that would be stupid too lol)
00:40:798 (8) - That doesn't seem right at all, there is no actual note here, the vocals have a barely audible change of pitch but that doesn't happen on that tick at all, and it doesn't fit to the break that the background beats have at all
01:11:023 (7,8) - That spacing is way too big lol, I mean that's almost the same as a 1/1-gap
01:15:823 (7,8) - This is really bad to play but I can't really explain why : \

Enozho's Extra

00:22:423 (5) - I don't see the reason for this one to be off-beat, the vocals have a very strong note on the tail but very weak on the head - That applies to a lot of sliders until the Kiai ( 00:24:823 (5) - 00:29:623 (5) - 00:32:023 (5) - 00:34:423 (5) -), they all play very weird as nothing has that rhythm, the vocals have a 3/2-3/2-2/2-rhythm Also, 00:19:723 (4,5) is the only time where you didn't map it like that, so yeah, at least make it consistent either way, but I highly advise to change those offbeat-sliders, they make nice patterns and all but the patterns don't fit to the song bc of the rhythm
00:37:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Maybe differentiate a bit between the first four notes and the rest? Right now there isn't even the direction change there, and the notes that start on (5) are so strong they definitively deserve to be differentiated!
00:38:773 (3,4) - All spacings like this one seem a bit too low bc of slider-leniency, the next note isn't emphasized at all, I'd raise them all : \ This section seems cramped anyways since there is so much overlapping although they are far away in the timeline, raising the spacing would help that too

Torpedo

00:37:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Same as in Extra, differentiate at (5) please
00:55:273 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - I don't see the system of at which notes you make the turns, at (6) it's a very weak beat being the turning point, at (11) the turning point is a strong beat and (16) is weak again - Both ways of when-to-turn are good, but they shouldn't be mixed up, that's pretty confusing! (I see in the editor that it's a triangle but that's not that noticable in-game anyways, just unnecessarily confusing, I'd say make the second turn on (10) or (12), that way it's consistent with (16) being a turning point instead of (1) )
00:57:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Again I'd suggest differentiating at (5) as that is an extremely prominent beat there
Nothing more to say, on Half-Time it played very nicely (can't play it nomod, I'm weak ;_;), good job!

Good luck!

Edit: My 100th kudosu, wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Ovoui

995 posts

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2016-02-07T22:29:00+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Ovoui's Insane
00:03:823 (2,3,4) - Uuuh adding that circle in-between makes this incredibly stupid to play and read - The player expects to click the downbeat at 00:04:273 since that is a very important note, additionally those are extremely high spaced, even higher than for example 00:02:473 (1,2,3) or 00:04:873 (1,2,3) for some reason - All in all that is just extremely unexpected, weird and hard to play, pleeaase re-do all those patterns, they are the most difficult things in the whole diff it's ok, it's ar9, it's easy to read + this diff is almost a 5* diff so it's for people who have some reading skills
00:40:573 (7) - Absolutely everything halts at 00:40:648 so making this a slider doesn't fit at all (theoretically making it 1/4 would fit since the sound of the drum-kick is that long but that would be stupid too lol) fixed
00:40:798 (8) - That doesn't seem right at all, there is no actual note here, the vocals have a barely audible change of pitch but that doesn't happen on that tick at all, and it doesn't fit to the break that the background beats have at all fixed
01:11:023 (7,8) - That spacing is way too big lol, I mean that's almost the same as a 1/1-gap i think a jump here fits well
01:15:823 (7,8) - This is really bad to play but I can't really explain why : \ it's ok imo

Good luck!

Edit: My 100th kudosu, wheeeeeeeeeeeeee! grats

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Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Cryptic 2016-02-07T22:57:44+00:00

Ovoui wrote:
CrypticMech wrote:
Hi CrypticMech

[Ovoui's Insane]
00:03:223 (4,5,6,1) - Having to change direction (6>1) like that from a straight line jump just plays really awkwardly. why not, but can you give me a suggestion ? i really don't know what to do
thank you o/

Maybe something like this. (I'm using 2.0 DS, 00:03:523 (6) - is on the repeat of 00:02:473 (1) - and 00:03:673 (1) - is on the beginning of 00:04:423 (4) - . Hope this helps.

Nozhomi

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4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-02-09T01:58:18+00:00

CrypticMech wrote:
Tired and from #modreq

[Insane]
00:03:373 (6) - Blanket the 5 better. - Was not blanket on purpose.
00:14:923 (3) - Reposition the 3 to better make a triangle with 2 and 4. - Fix
[Enozho's Extra]
00:33:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - Inconsistent DS - Fix
[Torpedo]
00:08:773 (2,3,4,5,6) - Conceptually, I get the difference in spacing, but in execution it looks kind of shotty. Perhaps make the transition a bit more gradual near the end? - Fix
00:09:373 (7,8,9,10,1) - ^ - Fix
Sorry I didn't find more, it looks pretty close to ready for me ;;

Bonsai wrote:
Ahoy, from m4m'ing

General
01:07:273 - I'm pretty sure this is only 100BPM from here on, dunno whether or not it needs to be correct for rank but I just wanted to point it out ^^ - Probably, but not necessairy at all, and now there is a SV down on this part everywhere on my diffs so it's k.
Maybe raise the offset by +2ms, I sounds a bit too early in the outro and I was noticably late when playing with HalfTime too - Fix
Easy
This mapset needs at least 1 Easy/Normal diff. jk, SV is stronk ^^ - Won't touch it tho, still thinking it's fine, and really don't want to redo all of it when it works.
tbh I think the AR might be too low considering the BPM and stacks like 00:11:173 (3,1) and 01:03:673 (2,1) - You can potentially see 4/1 ahead which is a bit too much / too dense I think - AR3.5
00:11:173 (3,4) - This might be kinda weird to play, adding to the stack it might confuse the beginners too - Combo color is enough to read it easiely.
01:01:573 (3,2) - Heil stacking! - Fix
01:07:273 - Maybe lower the SV from here on, to represent that the BPM is halfed here? This isn't forbidden in Easy y'know - Fix and redo it.
Normal
00:25:723 (2,3,4,1) - Using stacked and spaced 1/1s right after another might be too confusing, dunno, you didn't use it anywhere else either so I'd recommend changing that one too - I don't see any particular reason to stack (4,1) anyways, I'd rather stack (3,4) and unstack those, might be a bit easier to read too maybe - Fix

00:49:573 (5,6) - I feel like the note that (5) ends on is already a part of the vocal pattern of (6), so mapping it like this feels kinda weird to me - Vocal yes, but reverse is definitly on a stronger and different part of it.
Again suggesting to lower SV at 01:07:273 - Fix and redo.
All these 3/2-sliders in the outro may feel nice but that rhythm is not given in the song at all, there is no strong note at 01:07:723 - 01:10:123 - 01:12:523 - 01:14:923 to justify those, and tbh extending them to 2/1 feels more appropriate anyways imo since this is the outro, and half-BPM so it should be calmer to play - Fix but was a little sad to use same rhythm than Easy for them.
Insane
00:57:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Whoa lol, the Hard had only a single clickable triplet (and that might be deleted since it's imbalanced), and then in the next diff a stream of 9? Definitely seems to much, and the starrating drops by 0,09* too if you delete that one, soo yeah, pls nerf that one - Okok fixed ;w;
00:15:673 (1,2,3) - Even without slider-leniency, those are basically spaced the same as 00:16:873 (1,2,3,4) -, adding slider-leniency to it they are spaced way too low for which I see no reason o: A consequence of that is 00:16:273 (3,1) not stacking lol - Fix
00:16:873 (1,2,3,4) - Why are those actually spaced way more than 00:26:473 (1,2,3,4) or 00:45:673 (1,2,3,4) or 00:55:273 (1,2,3,4) etc. anyways? - Simply because they're here head to head when other are on the side.
00:18:373 (3) - I think you could map this as a double in an Insane, feels way better to play - Never ! This is too hard and don't like it.
00:21:373 (5,6,1,2,3) - I kinda miss a differentiation between those two combos, at (5,6) the vocals are kinda special and the background beats are completely paused, but then it just flows nicely into the next combo which doesn't feel appropriate at all - Stacking (5,6) would fit very well imo, but yeah, just do anything you want as long as it differentiates between those combos better - Fix pattern ;w;
00:38:923 (3) - Just like in Normal, all of these 3/4-sliders are just invented rhythm, not provided by the song, and feel very weird when they first occur - An other would be too hard, and works with music imo.
00:45:073 (5,6,7) - Pretty high spacing, also compared to 00:40:273 (4,5,6) -, and 00:45:373 (7,1) looks kinda cramped in comparision to that - That's k, just spaced a little from reverse.
Enozho's Extra
00:22:423 (5) - I don't see the reason for this one to be off-beat, the vocals have a very strong note on the tail but very weak on the head - That applies to a lot of sliders until the Kiai ( 00:24:823 (5) - 00:29:623 (5) - 00:32:023 (5) - 00:34:423 (5) -), they all play very weird as nothing has that rhythm, the vocals have a 3/2-3/2-2/2-rhythm Also, 00:19:723 (4,5) is the only time where you didn't map it like that, so yeah, at least make it consistent either way, but I highly advise to change those offbeat-sliders, they make nice patterns and all but the patterns don't fit to the song bc of the rhythm - Sry I'll let this like that, because it works with vocals, and won't kill pattern either :c
00:37:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Maybe differentiate a bit between the first four notes and the rest? Right now there isn't even the direction change there, and the notes that start on (5) are so strong they definitively deserve to be differentiated! - I hate that lol.
00:38:773 (3,4) - All spacings like this one seem a bit too low bc of slider-leniency, the next note isn't emphasized at all, I'd raise them all : \ This section seems cramped anyways since there is so much overlapping although they are far away in the timeline, raising the spacing would help that too - Enon's part so will see with him.
Torpedo
00:37:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Same as in Extra, differentiate at (5) please - Same as Extra.
00:55:273 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - I don't see the system of at which notes you make the turns, at (6) it's a very weak beat being the turning point, at (11) the turning point is a strong beat and (16) is weak again - Both ways of when-to-turn are good, but they shouldn't be mixed up, that's pretty confusing! (I see in the editor that it's a triangle but that's not that noticable in-game anyways, just unnecessarily confusing, I'd say make the second turn on (10) or (12), that way it's consistent with (16) being a turning point instead of (1) ) - Want to keep this perfect triangle.
00:57:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Again I'd suggest differentiating at (5) as that is an extremely prominent beat there - Same as Extra.
Nothing more to say, on Half-Time it played very nicely (can't play it nomod, I'm weak ;_;), good job! - Thx ><
Good luck!

Edit: My 100th kudosu, wheeeeeeeeeeeeee! AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Thx guys :3
Updated~

~~EDIT : Aia is remapping 1st half of her diff due to self quality expectation. Don't mod this diff until it's done thx !~~ OK GOOD NOW !

Ovoui

995 posts

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2016-02-10T16:09:09+00:00

CrypticMech wrote:
Maybe something like this. (I'm using 2.0 DS, 00:03:523 (6) - is on the repeat of 00:02:473 (1) - and 00:03:673 (1) - is on the beginning of 00:04:423 (4) - . Hope this helps. nice idea i made kinda the same pattern but i use 1.5 spacing

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Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,914 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-02-10T18:41:53+00:00

blablabla we irc'd

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-02-10T19:37:29+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
blablabla we irc'd

le irc avec Oko

2016-02-10 18:12 Okoratu: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/803418 saradisk - 168 - 401 [Torpedo]]
2016-02-10 18:12 Okoratu: do i need like
2016-02-10 18:12 Okoratu: gorilla hands to accu this or what
2016-02-10 18:12 Nozhomi: Rumia- did a 96% if I remember
2016-02-10 18:13 Nozhomi: still have screen of the differents tries
2016-02-10 18:13 Okoratu: i don't like your hitnormal
2016-02-10 18:13 Okoratu: like for most thingsi t just seems unfitting
2016-02-10 18:14 Okoratu: and that you layer things like 00:37:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - into the same stream
2016-02-10 18:14 Okoratu: like
2016-02-10 18:15 Okoratu: 00:37:575 (1,2,3,4,5) - have drums 00:37:950 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - have melody
2016-02-10 18:15 Nozhomi: I don't have anything elso who could fit hitnormal :/
2016-02-10 18:15 Okoratu: 2 completely different things mashed together into one chain of circles
2016-02-10 18:16 Okoratu: 00:56:775 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is same thing but slightly different
2016-02-10 18:17 Nozhomi: it that a real problem ? For me it's just following 1/4 and I have when streams are separated and I don't the idea to increase spacing
2016-02-10 18:18 Okoratu: you didn't even get what i was trying to say
2016-02-10 18:18 Okoratu: can you not do continuous 1/4 by combining drums and melody into huge chains of 1/4 :x
2016-02-10 18:19 Nozhomi: so you want me to do kick sliders or 2 differents streams ?
2016-02-10 18:21 Okoratu: example woudl be something like http://puu.sh/n2Vzy/816279717f.jpg
2016-02-10 18:22 Nozhomi: o
2016-02-10 18:22 Nozhomi: I see
2016-02-10 18:22 Okoratu: gives a small rest and separates 2 different kinds of stream
2016-02-10 18:24 Okoratu: some of your triplets have their stacks broken btw
2016-02-10 18:24 Nozhomi: like ?
2016-02-10 18:24 Okoratu: 00:00:525 (3,4,5) -
2016-02-10 18:24 Okoratu: 00:02:175 (8,9,1) -
2016-02-10 18:25 Okoratu: 00:08:400 (9,1) -
2016-02-10 18:26 Nozhomi: I like how triplet broken themselves
2016-02-10 18:26 Nozhomi: orz
2016-02-10 18:26 Okoratu: 00:15:675 (1,7,1) - this looks a bit dumb ingame, how about moving 00:18:675 (7,1,2,3,4,1) - by 4x 4y to have 00:18:375 (3,4,5,6,7) - as a straight line
2016-02-10 18:26 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/n2VRZ/18a1d5998b.jpg -> http://puu.sh/n2VSO/01945a5015.jpg
2016-02-10 18:27 Okoratu: i'd recommend doing the same kind of 1/4 short sliders instead of doublets in the kiai
2016-02-10 18:28 Nozhomi: you mean 00:41:325 (4,5) - ?
2016-02-10 18:28 Okoratu: like 00:31:725 (5,6) - is far easier to comprehend than playing doublets doublet doublet triplet triplet circle 5plet doublet doublet
2016-02-10 18:29 Okoratu: and if you simplify doublets you can do bigger spaced streams for 00:42:675 (1,2,3) - which would be cool
2016-02-10 18:29 Nozhomi: so why I put doublets in kiai :
2016-02-10 18:30 Okoratu: idk i think they play like ass
2016-02-10 18:30 Nozhomi: simply because I put 1/4 sliders before. It's the same rhythm but harder because it's the highest diff of the set
2016-02-10 18:30 Nozhomi: I can try but think it will just be zzz
2016-02-10 18:30 Okoratu: like if that was taiko i'd see doublets all over the place but
2016-02-10 18:30 Okoratu: i really think spamming doublets and triplets with only circles in quick succession will make ppl hate you lol
2016-02-10 18:31 Nozhomi: well they already hate me lol
2016-02-10 18:31 Nozhomi: will do some test for this tho
2016-02-10 18:32 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/n2Wdo/e4e263c48c.jpg
2016-02-10 18:32 Okoratu: ew
2016-02-10 18:33 Okoratu: you seemed to care a lot about how your triplets stack so
2016-02-10 18:33 Okoratu: 01:00:975 (8,5,6,7) -
2016-02-10 18:33 Okoratu: 01:06:675 (3,6,7,1) -
2016-02-10 18:36 Nozhomi: sry I'm still trying with 00:18:975 (1,2,3,4,1) - lol
2016-02-10 18:37 Nozhomi: because k it solve it for 00:18:375 (3,4,5,6,7) - but destroy 2nd one
2016-02-10 18:41 Okoratu: do you still want taikos XD
2016-02-10 18:42 Nozhomi: no
2016-02-10 18:42 Nozhomi: lel
2016-02-10 18:42 Okoratu: sad
2016-02-10 18:42 Nozhomi: you wanted to do taiko really ? cmon
2016-02-10 18:42 Nozhomi: it's really late lol
2016-02-10 18:43 Okoratu: i just found an intuitive way to map this song
2016-02-10 18:43 Okoratu: :d:d
2016-02-10 18:45 Nozhomi: :c
2016-02-10 18:45 Nozhomi: well fixed these stupid stacks
2016-02-10 18:52 Okoratu: wtf are the 1/8 in extra
2016-02-10 18:53 Nozhomi: 00:38:475 - from this point, it's Enon part
2016-02-10 18:53 Nozhomi: don't blame me
2016-02-10 18:53 Okoratu: kill enon's 1/8
2016-02-10 18:53 Okoratu: and 01:11:625 (1) -
2016-02-10 18:54 Okoratu: 00:08:775 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - same as what i talked about in torpedo
2016-02-10 18:54 Okoratu: 00:19:275 (1,2,3,5) - looks a bit dumb if your skin is half-transparent
2016-02-10 18:55 Okoratu: 00:30:375 (4,5) - i don't think a jump this big is warranted by the song
2016-02-10 18:57 Okoratu: why does she say "bathing is nice"
2016-02-10 18:57 Okoratu: the whole time
2016-02-10 18:59 Nozhomi: how I could know ??? XD
2016-02-10 18:59 Nozhomi: I didn't play the game lol
2016-02-10 18:59 Nozhomi: it's some of her quotes
2016-02-10 19:01 Okoratu: tell aia to not mix different length repeat sliders
2016-02-10 19:02 Okoratu: like she has http://puu.sh/n2Y53/24678ea5d9.jpg
2016-02-10 19:02 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/n2Y6A/fe1435eb96.jpg
2016-02-10 19:02 Okoratu: noone who just comes from a normal will be able to comprehend how long to hold each
2016-02-10 19:02 Nozhomi: k
2016-02-10 19:03 Okoratu: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/841828 Last Note. feat.mirin - Fake out [Seikatu's Hyper]]
2016-02-10 19:03 Okoratu: had the same issue
2016-02-10 19:03 Nozhomi: oh
2016-02-10 19:03 Okoratu: and we just made all repeat sliders the same length
2016-02-10 19:03 Okoratu: so whenever you see a repeat slider there it'll be the same thing and that actually made the diff wayy more intuitive
2016-02-10 19:04 Okoratu: and doublecheck her comboing with her
2016-02-10 19:05 Nozhomi: okay~
2016-02-10 19:05 Okoratu: can you do less spacing for 00:16:875 (1,2,3,4,1) - in insane
2016-02-10 19:05 Okoratu: that way it's more obvious that these are 1/4
2016-02-10 19:06 Okoratu: because other sliders look similar in terms of spacing but are 1/2 from each other
2016-02-10 19:06 Okoratu: 00:57:075 (1,2) - pls
2016-02-10 19:06 Okoratu: pls
2016-02-10 19:06 Okoratu: pl s
2016-02-10 19:06 Nozhomi: pls 2s
2016-02-10 19:07 Nozhomi: for 00:16:875 (1) - 
2016-02-10 19:07 Nozhomi: my problem is
2016-02-10 19:07 Nozhomi: do I have to kill stacks for the sake of spacing or do you have an idea in mind ?
2016-02-10 19:10 Okoratu: somethin like http://puu.sh/n2YyJ/d880bf5c6f.jpg
2016-02-10 19:10 Nozhomi: uh
2016-02-10 19:10 Nozhomi: rip aesthetic
2016-02-10 19:11 Nozhomi: also where the fk start 00:16:875 (1) - ?
2016-02-10 19:11 Nozhomi: did you stack it with 00:16:725 (5) - ?
2016-02-10 19:12 Okoratu: i didn't move it from where it is now
2016-02-10 19:13 Nozhomi: o_o
2016-02-10 19:16 Nozhomi: so I guess
2016-02-10 19:16 Okoratu: use AR 6 in normal, really lol.
2016-02-10 19:16 Nozhomi: I have to rearange this 00:18:075 (1,2,3,4) - 
2016-02-10 19:17 Okoratu: having to read like 6 objects at a time is not something a normal player can do easily
2016-02-10 19:19 Okoratu: easy
2016-02-10 19:19 Okoratu: 01:15:975 (2,3) -
2016-02-10 19:19 Okoratu: wtat hte fuck happened
2016-02-10 19:19 Okoratu: 00:10:875 (2,3,4,1) - seems super forced
2016-02-10 19:20 Nozhomi: k lol spacing rip
2016-02-10 19:20 Okoratu: can you avoid 1/2 repeat sliders, you have like 3 of them in the whole diff
2016-02-10 19:20 Okoratu: and short sliders aren't thaat intuitive for news since they don't really know how many times these repeat or how these sliders work exactly
2016-02-10 19:21 Nozhomi: 00:11:475 (4) - If I ctrl+g it's feel less forced ?
2016-02-10 19:21 Okoratu: yes
2016-02-10 19:21 Nozhomi: k
2016-02-10 19:22 Nozhomi: for repeat sliders...one repeat is not like okay in theory ?
2016-02-10 19:22 Okoratu: the problem i observed with these is that
2016-02-10 19:22 Okoratu: people don't know how long to hold them
2016-02-10 19:22 Okoratu: when they start playing
2016-02-10 19:23 Nozhomi: so
2016-02-10 19:23 Nozhomi: 00:52:275 (3) - these kind have to rip too ?
2016-02-10 19:23 Nozhomi: I mean
2016-02-10 19:23 Nozhomi: yeah
2016-02-10 19:24 Okoratu: uh
2016-02-10 19:24 Nozhomi: there is 2 of them
2016-02-10 19:24 Okoratu: if the slider is long enough they can follow through
2016-02-10 19:24 Nozhomi: yeah k
2016-02-10 19:24 Okoratu: rest of the diff is cool
2016-02-10 19:27 Nozhomi: k

@Enon

@Aia

Also I have to :

Try 1/4 sliders instead of doublets on Torpedo
Double check NC with Aia on Hard.

Thx dude

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2016-02-10T19:50:42+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Ahoy, from m4m'ing

Enozho's Extra
00:38:773 (3,4) - All spacings like this one seem a bit too low bc of slider-leniency, the next note isn't emphasized at all, I'd raise them all : \ This section seems cramped anyways since there is so much overlapping although they are far away in the timeline, raising the spacing would help that too ✔ Increased distance between 3, 4
Good luck!

Edit: My 100th kudosu, wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Nozhomi wrote:
@Enon

✐ I don't understand why I have to fix the 1/8 objects on my diff.
there are distinct 1/8 sounds at that part. so, I mapped those sounds.

What's wrong?

Thank you for modding, guys

I changed my part a bit

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Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,914 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-02-10T19:53:16+00:00

you map sounds that torpedo doesn't and the sv makes these misreadable as 1/4, also 1/8 sliders are wayy easier to break on and noz's part has the same sounds as circles only

it's your decision in the end, those are the reasons why i'd personally like them gone

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2016-02-10T20:23:52+00:00

ok done

rip 1/8

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