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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, July 29, 2016 at 10:27:36 PM

Artist: Eyes of Providence
Title: Renegade (Dub Elements Remix)
Tags: Desperate-kun Garven pishifat UnitedWeSin
BPM: 174
Filesize: 2519kb
Play Time: 01:31
Difficulties Available:
  1. Desperate's Normal (2.26 stars, 148 notes)
  2. Easy Collab (1.42 stars, 89 notes)
  3. Garven's Hard (3.67 stars, 213 notes)
  4. Insane (4.62 stars, 319 notes)
  5. Sin's Normal (2.11 stars, 139 notes)


Download: Eyes of Providence - Renegade (Dub Elements Remix)
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You are my sweet escape~

Easy Collab by pishi and I
Normal by UnitedWeSin
Normal by Desperate-kun
Hard by Garven
Insane by Me
posted
17:14 Xellie: could you tell me if my map is bad or not
17:15 Arphimigon: "if you have to ask then it usually is"
17:15 Arphimigon: but ok
17:15 Xellie: i just wanna figure out if it's just pishi being pishi or if everyone thinks it LOL
17:15 *Xellie is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/802121 Eyes of Providence - Renegade (Dub Elements Remix) [Insane]]
17:15 Arphimigon: pishi is always being pishi hehhe
17:17 Xellie: cause so far i got pishi saying it's bad, and a couple other people saying it's pretty good
17:17 Xellie: and i don't wanna waste my time hitsounding a bad map LOL
17:17 Arphimigon: its got good and bad points id say
17:17 Arphimigon: too many offbeat sliders imo though
17:18 Arphimigon: also 00:20:809 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - this particularly annoyed me
17:18 Arphimigon: but mostly the offbeat sliders
17:19 Xellie: offbeat is sliders on red ticks right
17:19 Arphimigon: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4216440 it was p.fun to play though]
17:19 Arphimigon: sliders that end on stronger sounds than they start ya
17:19 Arphimigon: usually red ticks
17:19 Xellie: ah ok
17:19 Arphimigon: there are tons of them everywhere
17:19 Arphimigon: rly weird
17:19 Arphimigon: 00:34:775 (2) - etc
17:19 Xellie: yeah i kinda fuck up a lot and do that
17:19 Xellie: rip
17:20 Arphimigon: and there are a lot of other minor things everywhere like
17:20 Arphimigon: 00:42:533 (13,14) -
17:20 Arphimigon: after that stream this could be misread
17:20 Arphimigon: as 1/4
17:20 Xellie: o
17:20 Arphimigon: (1/8 sliders 1/4 taps)
17:21 Xellie: maybe i'll actually finish the set and get mods if it's not complete trash
17:21 Arphimigon: its not complete trash
17:21 Arphimigon: lots of odd minor things
17:21 Arphimigon: and offbeats
17:21 Arphimigon: 00:20:809 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - and this again
17:21 Arphimigon: but not trash nah
17:21 Arphimigon: it has a good sense of spacing
17:21 Xellie: for that part do you mean the spinner into the stream
17:21 Xellie: cause it's 1/4 away
17:22 Arphimigon: the stream direction and spacing from the center
17:22 Arphimigon: really surprising
17:22 Arphimigon: easy to get caught off with
17:22 Xellie: ooo ok
17:22 Xellie: well thanks for looking at it o:
17:22 Arphimigon: np


yay
posted
Whoops, forgot to hitsound a section sorry.

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Eyes of Providence - Renegade (Dub Elements Remix).mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: -1
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.6
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 22188,33223,44257,52533,88395
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1.5

[Metadata]
Title:Renegade (Dub Elements Remix)
TitleUnicode:Renegade (Dub Elements Remix)
Artist:Eyes of Providence
ArtistUnicode:Eyes of Providence
Creator:Xellie
Version:Garven's Hard
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:865922
BeatmapSetID:365461

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.55
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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posted
[Garven's Hard]

00:14:257 (2,3) - Consider changing into a blanket, although I can't seem to tell if this is intentional or not.
00:56:326 (3) - Should be possible to get this to sit exactly on 00:52:533 (1) -, this as well 00:56:499 (4) -
01:00:809 (1,5) - Might want to avoid the touching here


[Insane]

.
00:19:085 (5,2) - Blanket
00:24:947 (1,3) - Blanket
00:26:499 (2,3) - Blanket
00:43:913 (4,5) - Avoid touching between 4 and slider end.
00:47:016 (1,2) - Blanket
00:47:533 (2,3) - Blanket Sliderend
00:57:706 (5,3) - Stack
01:00:292 (4,6,1,2) - Blankets
01:01:154 (2,5) - Blanket
01:01:154 (2,1) - Blanket sliderend
01:06:154 (9,3) - Cleanup Blanket
01:07:016 (4,6) - Blanket
01:08:223 (3,6) - Blanket
01:09:085 (1,2) - Blanket


00:20:120 (4,5,6) - Consider changing this to a perfect triangle could allow stack of 6 onto 3.
00:40:120 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This jump portion looks kind of awkward and doesn't feel like it flows well

Lower diffs look fine to me!

Good luck on your set!
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ailv wrote:

[Garven's Hard]

00:14:257 (2,3) - Consider changing into a blanket, although I can't seem to tell if this is intentional or not. Not really going for a blanket there. Stubbly sliders like this one don't really benefit much from a blanket anyway.
00:56:326 (3) - Should be possible to get this to sit exactly on 00:52:533 (1) -, this as well 00:56:499 (4) - I don't see how anyone would care about this while playing.
01:00:809 (1,5) - Might want to avoid the touching here It's for a split second while the sliders are spawning/despawning - I don't really see it as something that will detract from the visuals enough.
Pretty good eye on these things, but I didn't find them necessarily something that would improve the map, sorry. Thanks anyway!
posted
I'm at work but i'll look tonight

i fixed some shit

didn't fix other shit(modder is ok with my answer, no flame)
posted
Hi m4m
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/390619

[Insane]
over all impression, the placement is too random and does not feel good.
00:11:154 (1,2,3) - spacing consistency is really a problem
00:12:016 (4) - no way increase ds for this note
.. well i guess you need rework on your note placement. I will give you one way I would do to make it visually good.
http://puu.sh/mrAbl/d1bccf5055.osu
just keep in mind, spacing between every note should have their meaning, or you should just use DS lock. some vertical and horizontal sliders(they does not need to be exact vertical/horizontal) will make your map looks better. try not start sliders on red stick, unless you think that make much more sense. because it harder to follow red stick sliders
copy, is the best way to approach your favorite style. it's not a bad thing.

00:14:775 (5) - ds too high without much support, consider your ds at 00:17:533 (5) - 00:12:016 (4) - 00:13:395 (4) - 00:18:913 (4) - etc
00:42:533 (13,14,1) - DS consistency

other part seems ok, your rhythm catch is good though.

[Garven]
overall, I would say your rhythm catch for this diff is so hard to understand, you continuously switching between the vocal and drum, I really have a hard time to understand what am i hitting.


00:11:844 (4) - nc for switch from drum to vocal
00:12:878 (7) - nc for switch sound track
00:32:706 (6) - nc for switch sound track
00:19:947 (3,4) - 00:21:326 (7,8,9,10) - vocal, 00:19:430 (1,2,5,6) - drum. really...
00:34:602 (2,3) - why are they here?

[desp]
nice diff, well done

[easy]
ok
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hitsounded the insane, lovely map so far | updated, will wait for next mod
osu file format v14[/b]

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posted

Shad0w1and wrote:

Hi m4m
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/390619

[Insane]
over all impression, the placement is too random and does not feel good.
00:11:154 (1,2,3) - spacing consistency is really a problem
00:12:016 (4) - no way increase ds for this note
.. well i guess you need rework on your note placement. I will give you one way I would do to make it visually good.
http://puu.sh/mrAbl/d1bccf5055.osu
just keep in mind, spacing between every note should have their meaning, or you should just use DS lock. some vertical and horizontal sliders(they does not need to be exact vertical/horizontal) will make your map looks better. try not start sliders on red stick, unless you think that make much more sense. because it harder to follow red stick sliders
copy, is the best way to approach your favorite style. it's not a bad thing.

00:14:775 (5) - ds too high without much support, consider your ds at 00:17:533 (5) - 00:12:016 (4) - 00:13:395 (4) - 00:18:913 (4) - etc
00:42:533 (13,14,1) - DS consistency

other part seems ok, your rhythm catch is good though.

I'm gunna hold off on reworking the entire beginning part since you're the only person with a problem with it so far, the ds for the last note of the stream was intentional, thanks for the mod, i'll finish my mod for you today~
posted

Quite Cynical wrote:

hitsounded the insane, lovely map so far
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thanks for making up for my laziness <3
posted

Shad0w1and wrote:

[Garven]
overall, I would say your rhythm catch for this diff is so hard to understand, you continuously switching between the vocal and drum, I really have a hard time to understand what am i hitting. Please give an example of how you would map it. I can't really do anything with this since the rhythms that I used felt the most natural for myself.

00:11:844 (4) - nc for switch from drum to vocal
00:12:878 (7) - nc for switch sound track
00:32:706 (6) - nc for switch sound track No to new combo suggestions... look at how a mapper uses new combos before you suggest them please.
00:19:947 (3,4) - 00:21:326 (7,8,9,10) - vocal, 00:19:430 (1,2,5,6) - drum. really... Really.
00:34:602 (2,3) - why are they here? 2 is a chord change, 3 is so that you're not just hanging there too long and to help transition to the drum beat at 00:35:982 -
Please clarify with your opening statement since I'm not quite sure what you're trying to help fix.

Edit:

Caught sh4dow online and chatted him up and got things clarified.
posted
I can't believe you tricked me into modding something. Shame on you >:C
Uhh, how do I format these things again? I'll just make something that takes up a lot of space and looks really important and well thought out.
Hopefully this will have more than "looks good" and "ctrl + g this for flow"

nvm... It didn't go far past this. Post for free kds?!?!

Easy Collab

Who even plays easies anyways?

Can't really find anything to change here other than countdown conflicts (Check AiMod)


Desperate's Normal

Flavor Text.


00:45:637 (1) - Looks cool, might be worried about having that many 1/2 sliders in a row when compared to the rest of the kiai (Same goes for CopyPasta'd Part)

Nice normal, I guess. Does a decent job of bridging the hard and easy so thumbs up...?


Graven's Hard

Hi mom.


00:13:568 (10) - Ctrl + G this slider for a more circular flow, perhaps?
Maybe add a spinner at the end so it's consistent across all diffs? Up to you.

Felt like I was playing osu on my phone. Sorry I couldn't find anything useful to complain about :vv


Insane

Should've let me make an extra B)


00:34:430 (8,1) - Change the spacing so it's consistent with 00:33:740 (4,5) - maybe? (Dunno, man, it's just a suggestion bro calm down.)
01:23:223 (3) - Maybe move or Ctrl + G this to make it more visible? (Or I could just be bad at videogames)
01:28:223 (10,1) - Would've loved to see a jump instead of an antijump here. I feel like the song leads up to it well enough to warrant a little (screw you dt farmers) jump before the spinner.

Cool map, I guess. Nothing really stood out or caught my eye and said "HEY, LOOK AT ME" except that last circle (While even then it was hiding behind the previous circle). It was fun to play I guess, different from how I'd (over)map it, but mapper style etc.
posted

BrosephStalin wrote:

I can't believe you tricked me into modding something. Shame on you >:C
Uhh, how do I format these things again? I'll just make something that takes up a lot of space and looks really important and well thought out.
Hopefully this will have more than "looks good" and "ctrl + g this for flow"

nvm... It didn't go far past this. Post for free kds?!?!

Easy Collab

Who even plays easies anyways?

Can't really find anything to change here other than countdown conflicts (Check AiMod)


Insane

Should've let me make an extra B)


00:34:430 (8,1) - Change the spacing so it's consistent with 00:33:740 (4,5) - maybe? (Dunno, man, it's just a suggestion bro calm down.)
01:23:223 (3) - Maybe move or Ctrl + G this to make it more visible? (Or I could just be bad at videogames)
01:28:223 (10,1) - Would've loved to see a jump instead of an antijump here. I feel like the song leads up to it well enough to warrant a little (screw you dt farmers) jump before the spinner.

Cool map, I guess. Nothing really stood out or caught my eye and said "HEY, LOOK AT ME" except that last circle (While even then it was hiding behind the previous circle). It was fun to play I guess, different from how I'd (over)map it, but mapper style etc.

changed everything for my diffs
I love you
posted
Hello as requested
Small sugestion,

[General]
  1. Count down is not consistent on all diffs


[Insane]
  1. On these green line 00:10:809 - 00:21:671 - 01:31:499 - set a soft sampleset on those three? like garven did on hard, so it'll more quite on spinner end
  2. 00:42:533 (13,14) - The placement on those two kinda odd make the whole stream a bit weird to play, maybe a bit rearrange into sth like this http://puu.sh/msM7x/d0e8e8b826.jpg or just change those two 1/2 slider into circles instead?
  3. 00:44:085 (5) - Imo the stacked better on 00:44:257 (1) -
  4. 00:54:602 (5,6,7,8,9) - That anti jump on 00:54:947 (9,1) - not flows good imo, maybe you can try this rhythm: http://puu.sh/msMpT/ebb31fea1d.jpg and pattern: http://puu.sh/msMuy/08d33eca3b.jpg?
  5. 01:11:499 (3) - and 01:13:223 (1) - Move that down a bit? kinda touching the hp bar looks slopy
  6. 01:28:395 (1) - Better to be a jump imo instead anti jump, so you can emphsize the strong beat more on its downbeat, so maybe move it somewhere like x:312 y:188 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4319283 or somewhere else?


[Garven Hard]
  1. 00:13:568 (10) - Just personal preference, maybe ctrl+g that to make it flow more natural?
  2. 00:48:740 - Considering add circle there? the rhythm after that slider (5) to (6,7) kinda weird to be play imo
  3. 01:10:809 - Literally add circle, same as above
  4. 01:28:395 (1) - Add more spacing on that one? I'm not sure why putting that on low spacing regarding its strong beat


[Desperate Normal]
  1. Some notes not snapped properly
  2. 00:38:740 (1) - Imo that spinner should be stop on the downbeat instead, because there still a sound from previous drum sequence


[Easy]
  1. 00:09:775 - set a soft sampleset on that green line? so it'll more quite on spinner end
  2. 00:42:878 - Add green line there? and lowered the volume like you did on the first one also use a soft sampleset?

[]
They seems good :)
posted

Mako Sakata wrote:

Hello as requested
Small sugestion,

[General]
  1. Count down is not consistent on all diffs


[Insane]
  1. On these green line 00:10:809 - 00:21:671 - 01:31:499 - set a soft sampleset on those three? like garven did on hard, so it'll more quite on spinner endfixed all 3
  2. 00:42:533 (13,14) - The placement on those two kinda odd make the whole stream a bit weird to play, maybe a bit rearrange into sth like this http://puu.sh/msM7x/d0e8e8b826.jpg or just change those two 1/2 slider into circles instead? rearranged
  3. 00:44:085 (5) - Imo the stacked better on 00:44:257 (1) - fixed
  4. 00:54:602 (5,6,7,8,9) - That anti jump on 00:54:947 (9,1) - not flows good imo, maybe you can try this rhythm: http://puu.sh/msMpT/ebb31fea1d.jpg and pattern: http://puu.sh/msMuy/08d33eca3b.jpg? i gave it a shot
  5. 01:11:499 (3) - and 01:13:223 (1) - Move that down a bit? kinda touching the hp bar looks slopy fixed
  6. 01:28:395 (1) - Better to be a jump imo instead anti jump, so you can emphsize the strong beat more on its downbeat, so maybe move it somewhere like x:312 y:188 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4319283 or somewhere else? changed, i actually meant to do this but forgot to before i sent it to you



[Easy]
  1. 00:09:775 - set a soft sampleset on that green line? so it'll more quite on spinner end fixed
  2. 00:42:878 - Add green line there? and lowered the volume like you did on the first one also use a soft sampleset?also fixed

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They seems good :)
Thanks for the mod :D
posted

BrosephStalin wrote:

Graven's Hard

Hi mom.

Hi Borseph.

00:13:568 (10) - Ctrl + G this slider for a more circular flow, perhaps? I wasn't really going for that here. It also helps set the stage for later patterns like 00:46:326 (11,12) -
Maybe add a spinner at the end so it's consistent across all diffs? Up to you. It's not really a good spot in the song for a spinner.

Felt like I was playing osu on my phone. Sorry I couldn't find anything useful to complain about :vv No worries. Thanks for checking!

Mako Sakata wrote:

Hello as requested
Small sugestion,

[General]
  1. Count down is not consistent on all diffs
It actually works on my diff. The others don't have a solid beginning, so it doesn't make sense to have it on them.

[Garven Hard]
  1. 00:13:568 (10) - Just personal preference, maybe ctrl+g that to make it flow more natural? Explained in previous mod
  2. 00:48:740 - Considering add circle there? the rhythm after that slider (5) to (6,7) kinda weird to be play imo Hm, tried something out.
  3. 01:10:809 - Literally add circle, same as above
  4. 01:28:395 (1) - Add more spacing on that one? I'm not sure why putting that on low spacing regarding its strong beat
I just have it representing the kind of fading out with the spacing reduction at that part.
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Eyes of Providence - Renegade (Dub Elements Remix).mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: -1
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.6
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 22188,33223,44257,52533,88395
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1.5

[Metadata]
Title:Renegade (Dub Elements Remix)
TitleUnicode:Renegade (Dub Elements Remix)
Artist:Eyes of Providence
ArtistUnicode:Eyes of Providence
Creator:Xellie
Version:Garven's Hard
Source:
Tags:Desperate-kun, Garven, pishifat
BeatmapID:865922
BeatmapSetID:365461

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.55
SliderTickRate:2

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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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posted
Suggestions
Major suggestions
Aesthetic suggestions
Unrankable issues

Generally speaking, the kiai is pretty damn overkill. I'd much rather you have fountains burst at
00:44:257 -
01:06:326 -
01:17:361 -
and not have any kiai at all, as the kiai lasts so long it's drowning everything else out and there are honestly many "weak" areas in the kiai.

Desperate's normal
  1. 00:23:568 (3,4,5) - This is probably the most anal of suggestions i can make but i feel like a fairly straight line doesn't emphasize the song that well like this. Maybe have it a bit off kilter?
  2. 00:29:086 (3,4,5) - ^
  3. 01:24:257 (1,2,3) - again pretty anal but i feel like (2) should be above 1 and 3, not below. But this will cause overlap with 4 unless you fiddle with the pattern a bit, so feel free to ignore.

Garven's Hard
  1. holy shit my eyes these combo colors especially ^^^^ THAT VIBRANT, NUCLEAR ACID GREEN WOW MY EYES
  2. 00:35:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - why a nonagon when an octagon lets it end where it started?
  3. 00:45:637 (7) - new combo
  4. 00:51:154 (7) - ^ pls
  5. 01:07:706 (7) - ^ PLS
  6. 01:13:223 (5) - nc this time for consistency rather than length
  7. 01:26:326 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - I know you can make a pattern better than this Garven :( also
  8. 01:27:016 (8) - new combo here when you redo that pattern (please do)

Insane
  1. AR9 is a nice comfort zone for most of these kinds of maps but feels a bit high for this one probably because it doesn't use very many actual 1/4 sections. Maybe lower it a little? 8.7 or so.
  2. 00:17:016 (3,6) - obligatory blanket comment
  3. 00:42:533 (13,14) - no need for these to be two sliders, they're the exact same noise as they were 12 beats before!
  4. 01:06:154 (9,1,2) - equilateral triangle please
  5. 01:08:567 (5,1) - ugly overlap
  6. 01:15:637 (3,1) - these look like 1 is trying to blanket but it really don't, would look better aesthetically if it was actually blanketing or was clearly not.
  7. 01:28:051 (9,10) - I suggest replacing these two notes with a slider and having 01:28:395 (1) - be further away for a nice slam ending to the song.
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Shiirn wrote:

Suggestions
Major suggestions
Aesthetic suggestions
Unrankable issues

Generally speaking, the kiai is pretty damn overkill. I'd much rather you have fountains burst at
00:44:257 -
01:06:326 -
01:17:361 -
and not have any kiai at all, as the kiai lasts so long it's drowning everything else out and there are honestly many "weak" areas in the kiai.i like how it is but i'll keep it in mind

Insane
  1. AR9 is a nice comfort zone for most of these kinds of maps but feels a bit high for this one probably because it doesn't use very many actual 1/4 sections. Maybe lower it a little? 8.7 or so. uh i'll think about it but i like ar9 too much
  2. 00:17:016 (3,6) - obligatory blanket comment fixed
  3. 00:42:533 (13,14) - no need for these to be two sliders, they're the exact same noise as they were 12 beats before!
  4. 01:06:154 (9,1,2) - equilateral triangle please
  5. 01:08:567 (5,1) - ugly overlap fixed
  6. 01:15:637 (3,1) - these look like 1 is trying to blanket but it really don't, would look better aesthetically if it was actually blanketing or was clearly not. changed it some
  7. 01:28:051 (9,10) - I suggest replacing these two notes with a slider and having 01:28:395 (1) - be further away for a nice slam ending to the song.i gotchu babe
Thanks for the mod <3 I'm undecided on the ones i left blank
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Shiirn wrote:

Generally speaking, the kiai is pretty damn overkill. I'd much rather you have fountains burst at
00:44:257 -
01:06:326 -
01:17:361 -
and not have any kiai at all, as the kiai lasts so long it's drowning everything else out and there are honestly many "weak" areas in the kiai. I agree, but I'm just keeping it with the rest of the set for this. If Xellie changes it, then I'll adjust mine as well.

Garven's Hard
  1. holy shit my eyes these combo colors especially ^^^^ THAT VIBRANT, NUCLEAR ACID GREEN WOW MY EYES Set to the rest of the set's colors, though they feel a bit on the blendy side imo.
  2. 00:35:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - why a nonagon when an octagon lets it end where it started? Because it's the start of something new~ I didn't like how it looked when it returned to a previous stack.
  3. 00:45:637 (7) - new combo Doesn't fit the combo flow.
  4. 00:51:154 (7) - ^ pls
  5. 01:07:706 (7) - ^ PLS
  6. 01:13:223 (5) - nc this time for consistency rather than length etc
  7. 01:26:326 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - I know you can make a pattern better than this Garven :( also
  8. 01:27:016 (8) - new combo here when you redo that pattern (please do) I would've done something more drastic, but the diff spread is kind of shackling me. This is already on the edge of being too hard for the spread - I fear if I did something neat with this it'd just go overboard.
Thanks!
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Shiirn wrote:

Desperate's normal
  1. 00:23:568 (3,4,5) - This is probably the most anal of suggestions i can make but i feel like a fairly straight line doesn't emphasize the song that well like this. Maybe have it a bit off kilter? I disagree, I think it fits the distinct drums perfectly
  2. 00:29:086 (3,4,5) - ^ ^
  3. 01:24:257 (1,2,3) - again pretty anal but i feel like (2) should be above 1 and 3, not below. But this will cause overlap with 4 unless you fiddle with the pattern a bit, so feel free to ignore. Fixed, also fixed at the other instance.

Mako Sakata wrote:

[Desperate Normal]
  1. Some notes not snapped properly Fixed!
  2. 00:38:740 (1) - Imo that spinner should be stop on the downbeat instead, because there still a sound from previous drum sequence Nah I really prefer ending it on the last strong drum.
Thanks! :3
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