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momp
144 posts
Joined November 2011
Topic Starter
momp
I think it's important that everyone feels welcome and safe in the osu! community, and I haven't seen any threads regarding this, so I've decided to create a little hub for the LGBT+ players of osu!.

If you'd like to start by introducing yourself, including your name, identities, interests, etc., that'd be really great! If you aren't comfortable sharing that's totally fine too, I understand. Allies are welcome to join the discussion as well as long as you do not speak over the voices of your LGBT peers.

Players of all ages are welcome here. You are never too young or too old to discover who you are. I'm also open to PM's in-game and through the site if you ever need/want to talk. I'm not great at giving advice but I'll do my best.

No bullying or discrimination of any sort. This is meant to be a safe space for all sexualities and genders. Harassment will not be tolerated and you will be reported.

I'll go ahead and introduce myself. I'm momp, but you can call me Hailey if you want. I'm panromantic and demisexual, and I go by she/her or they/them pronouns. I'm really into anime and cartoons, and I also enjoy drawing and singing. I've been playing osu! for almost 4 years, and I mostly play standard but I'm also experienced in CTB.

So what's up?
kirueggy
1,196 posts
Joined April 2014
kirueggy
Please, oh please, lord Jesus that this thread doesn't go to shit.

Hello, momp. Welcome to the forums from both myself and the rest of the community. I'm that guy at school who gets called gay for supporting LGBT people, but there is always ignorance in the world... I guess straight people can't act nice to anyone
E m i
E m i
hi
momp
144 posts
Joined November 2011
Topic Starter
momp

kirueggy wrote:

Please, oh please, lord Jesus that this thread doesn't go to shit.

Hello, momp. Welcome to the forums from both myself and the rest of the community. I'm that guy at school who gets called gay for supporting LGBT people, but there is always ignorance in the world... I guess straight people can't act nice to anyone
i'm hoping this thread goes well too. i was kind of worried about making this because i've seen how this stuff gets treated around here.

Momiji wrote:

hi
hi, welcome!
Nepeta Leijon
177 posts
Joined May 2014
Nepeta Leijon
hihi i'm really glad we have a thread here!!

i'm expecting at least 3 trolls coming in here to say shit tho
HaruryuuSan
545 posts
Joined May 2013
HaruryuuSan

kirueggy wrote:

I'm that guy at school who gets called gay for supporting LGBT people, but there is always ignorance in the world... I guess straight people can't act nice to anyone
same ;w;
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
Hi

I really feel like having a thread like this isn't super neccessary, as the LGBT community is well integrated into the game and it's not that big of an issue to where a separate segregated thread is needed.

But I guess it's more of a support center building and peer development thread so that's cool
B1rd
2,974 posts
Joined December 2013
B1rd

momp wrote:

No bullying or discrimination of any sort. This is meant to be a safe space for all sexualities and genders. Harassment will not be tolerated and you will be reported.
haha take your safe space authoritarian progressive bullshit back to Tumblr, you have no authority here. We say what we like.

momp wrote:

I'll go ahead and introduce myself. I'm momp, but you can call me Hailey if you want. I'm panromantic and demisexual, and I go by she/her or they/them pronouns.
Hello I am a genderfluid omnisexual transracial fish-kin, nice to meet you. My pronouns are he/she/zhir/thon/bun (check my blog to find out which one I am currently identifying as).
mouse_old_1
mouse_old_1
yeah dude im gay too
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani

B1rd wrote:

momp wrote:

No bullying or discrimination of any sort. This is meant to be a safe space for all sexualities and genders. Harassment will not be tolerated and you will be reported.
haha take your safe space authoritarian progressive bullshit back to Tumblr, you have no authority here. We say what we like.

momp wrote:

I'll go ahead and introduce myself. I'm momp, but you can call me Hailey if you want. I'm panromantic and demisexual, and I go by she/her or they/them pronouns.
Hello I am a genderfluid omnisexual transracial fish-kin, nice to meet you. My pronouns are he/she/zhir/thon/bun (check my blog to find out which one I am currently identifying as).
Like it's B1rd so I pretty much expected him to not understand that not everything is a overblown liberal parade like the internet makes it out to be but still.
B1rd
2,974 posts
Joined December 2013
B1rd

Reditum wrote:

Like it's B1rd so I pretty much expected him to not understand that not everything is a overblown liberal parade like the internet makes it out to be but still.
The OP is almost beyond parody, but you're already so deep in the progressive mindset you can't even tell.
momp
144 posts
Joined November 2011
Topic Starter
momp

B1rd wrote:

momp wrote:

No bullying or discrimination of any sort. This is meant to be a safe space for all sexualities and genders. Harassment will not be tolerated and you will be reported.
haha take your safe space authoritarian progressive bullshit back to Tumblr, you have no authority here. We say what we like.

momp wrote:

I'll go ahead and introduce myself. I'm momp, but you can call me Hailey if you want. I'm panromantic and demisexual, and I go by she/her or they/them pronouns.
Hello I am a genderfluid omnisexual transracial fish-kin, nice to meet you. My pronouns are he/she/zhir/thon/bun (check my blog to find out which one I am currently identifying as).
i understand if you don't agree with me but i'll kindly ask that you don't do that here. not that i expect you to listen to me but it'd be much appreciated.

to everyone else, hello and thank you for the support!
Alucard
93 posts
Joined May 2012
Alucard
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful.
I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body.
From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly.
If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
Railey2
515 posts
Joined February 2015
Railey2
B1rd's and Alucard's criticism seems rather misplaced here. This thread is not an "overblown liberal parade" (great way to put it, Reditum). It's just meant as a platform where people can talk in LGBT-context. Nothing bad about that, although it is fair to question if there is a need for this platform.

To me it seems like you two got triggered by certain keywords (probably "safe, panromantic, demisexual") and instantly switched into a must-battle-tumblr-mindset.
Read what shes actually saying, don't get carried away.

Good luck with the Thread, OP.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
now now. play nice or go away
Zerostarry
osu! Alumni
1,563 posts
Here since the beginning
Zerostarry
im cute-sexual
B1rd
2,974 posts
Joined December 2013
B1rd
Thanks deadbeat, you know how much I love to be silenced for speaking my opinion.

Railey2 wrote:

B1rd's and Alucard's criticism seems rather misplaced here. This thread is not an "overblown liberal parade" (great way to put it, Reditum). It's just meant as a platform where people can talk in LGBT-context. Nothing bad about that, although it is fair to question if there is a need for this platform.

To me it seems like you two got triggered by certain keywords (probably "safe, panromantic, demisexual") and instantly switched into a must-battle-tumblr-mindset.
Read what shes actually saying, don't get carried away.
I'm not triggered by those words. I just find these made up sexual preference terms stupid and thus I mock them. I did read the OP in fact, and the words that triggered me were 'safe space' and 'Allies are welcome to join the discussion as well as long as you do not speak over the voices of your LGBT peers'. These words are straight from the progressive college campuses where men get lynched for false rape allegations without a shred of evidence and people get expelled for speaking conservative opinions. It's this 'your rights end where my feelings begin' and 'free speech is a hate speech' mentality that I have a problem with and has no place in a forum which purpose is to discuss things. If you want me to not speak out against these things then you're gonna have to perma-ban me.
momp
144 posts
Joined November 2011
Topic Starter
momp

B1rd wrote:

I'm not triggered by those words. I just find these made up sexual preference terms stupid and thus I mock them. I did read the OP in fact, and the words that triggered me were 'safe space' and 'Allies are welcome to join the discussion as well as long as you do not speak over the voices of your LGBT peers'. These words are straight from the progressive college campuses where men get lynched for false rape allegations without a shred of evidence and people get expelled for speaking conservative opinions. It's this 'your rights end where my feelings begin' and 'free speech is a hate speech' mentality that I have a problem with and has no place in a forum which purpose is to discuss things. If you want me to not speak out against these things then you're gonna have to perma-ban me.
what i mean by "allies not speaking over lgbt peers" is that allies do not deal with the same things that lgbt individuals do, and thus they shouldn't try and invalidate those experiences. i'm not great at explaining things but that's the best i can say it. and when i say "safe space", i mean a place where those in the lgbt spectrum can talk without being ridiculed or judged, which is kind of what you're doing by calling my preferences fake and stupid. sure, you can have your opinions, i really don't care what you think about me, but the point is that this specific thread isn't meant to be the place for it.
kirueggy
1,196 posts
Joined April 2014
kirueggy
sacré bleu people would it ever kill to have a day where LGBT people and straight people don't spend their time stabbing each other in the mouth i honestly wanted to just casually talk with LGBT people in this thread but nope instead I see classic typical "freedom of speech so I can become a cunt for just this occasion" shit. unbelievable
Yuudachi-kun
5,435 posts
Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun
Do I count as a member of the LGBT community?


Yes or no I still think threads like these are dumb and safespace hugboxes are too
troke
915 posts
Joined August 2013
troke
wat
Miuyarai
32 posts
Joined August 2014
Miuyarai
SPOILER

B1rd wrote:

haha take your safe space authoritarian progressive bullshit back to Tumblr, you have no authority here. We say what we like.

Hello I am a genderfluid omnisexual transracial fish-kin, nice to meet you. My pronouns are he/she/zhir/thon/bun (check my blog to find out which one I am currently identifying as).

Reditum wrote:

Like it's B1rd so I pretty much expected him to not understand that not everything is a overblown liberal parade like the internet makes it out to be but still.

Honestly, it's B1rd and he's given me sh!t before so don't bother to take any from him.

incoming witty comment from B1rd about how I am an X and was wrong about Y in thread Z
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Granger
835 posts
Joined April 2014
Granger
Hello Tumblr, remember that hugboxes and echochambers are of little value.

momp wrote:

I'm panromantic and demisexual?
Now i can understand panromantic (Basically biromantic for people who think bisexuality is not special enough) but what the hell is demisexual? What sex are you attracted to?

As for myself, i am just plain bisexual. This means i am attracted to all of the two sexes, both sexually and romantically.
FuZ
363 posts
Joined January 2011
FuZ
What the fuck is LGBT, looks like a sect
Miuyarai
32 posts
Joined August 2014
Miuyarai

FuZ wrote:

What the fuck is LGBT, looks like a sect
Hopefully this isn't a complete troll, but LGBT stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender.
FuZ
363 posts
Joined January 2011
FuZ

Nanodermic wrote:

FuZ wrote:

What the fuck is LGBT, looks like a sect
Hopefully this isn't a complete troll, but LGBT stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender.
No it's not, for once. I don't understand the point of this thread tho
Miuyarai
32 posts
Joined August 2014
Miuyarai

FuZ wrote:

I just don't understand the point of this thread
Sometimes people can be really ignorant towards someone's sexual orientation, and so I guess this thread, according to the OP is a social/emotional support base, per se.
joi-
35 posts
Joined July 2014
joi-

Nanodermic wrote:

FuZ wrote:

I just don't understand the point of this thread
Sometimes people can be really ignorant towards someone's sexual orientation, and so I guess this thread, according to the OP is a social/emotional support base, per se.
I hope you don't get this wrong but being ignorant and being rude are two different things. To be honest you can't expect people to pick their words carefully every time they say something.
Do note that I'm just being an idiot here and haven't bothered to even read the whole thread, so I'm purely moving based on assumptions here.
Granger
835 posts
Joined April 2014
Granger
You know, i am supportive of LGBT, but id like to keep it down to earth and based on facts, sadly what tumblr perpetuates went to orbit and beyond. Theres hundreds of sexes, genders and whatnot and each has atleast a few dozen sexualities. According to Tumblr.

Real life has these:
Sexes: Male, Female. (And intersex which is one of the previous two but malformed)
Genders: Male, Female.
Sexualities: Homosexual (the same), Heterosexual (the other), Bisexual (both) and Asexual (Not sexual, ie neither.)

And Transgender doesnt even has anything to do with LGB because it is not a Sexuality but is packed in there anyways because people used tho think transgender people are just hyper-gay.

Edit: Forgot about asexuals. Everyone tends to forget them, somehow...
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kirueggy
1,196 posts
Joined April 2014
kirueggy

FuZ wrote:

I don't understand the point of this thread tho
A thread for LGBT osu! players to hang out and chill and discuss their own thing without fear or being criticized somewhere else... unfortunately this thread already went to shit real quick
joi-
35 posts
Joined July 2014
joi-

kirueggy wrote:

FuZ wrote:

I don't understand the point of this thread tho
A thread for LGBT osu! players to hang out and chill and discuss their own thing without fear or being criticized somewhere else... unfortunately this thread already went to shit real quick
Isn't to be expected, these kind of threads always draw attention as they are meant to be support clubs of sorts.

I don't mean to discourage making threads such as this, but not expecting this to happen just strikes to me as being naive.
Yuudachi-kun
5,435 posts
Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun
There's no reason other than to discuss how special you are. Hey dude I'm gay. Yeah me too. Cool.
Miuyarai
32 posts
Joined August 2014
Miuyarai

joi- wrote:

I hope you don't get this wrong but being ignorant and being rude are two different things. To be honest you can't expect people to pick their words carefully every time they say something.
I meant people were ignorant towards what their sexual orientation actually means and uses it as a means to be rude. I just didn't elaborate too far because I don't want to look on the dark side of things in a thread of which I do not apply to.
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
yooooooooooooooo
momp
144 posts
Joined November 2011
Topic Starter
momp

Granger wrote:

Now i can understand panromantic (Basically biromantic for people who think bisexuality is not special enough) but what the hell is demisexual? What sex are you attracted to?

As for myself, i am just plain bisexual. This means i am attracted to all of the two sexes, both sexually and romantically.
demisexual is basically not feeling attraction to someone until you've formed a bond with them. you can read more about it here. and bisexual is attraction to two or more genders, while pansexual is attraction to all genders. similar, but they still have differences.
kirueggy
1,196 posts
Joined April 2014
kirueggy

Khelly wrote:

There's no reason other than to discuss how special you are. Hey dude I'm gay. Yeah me too. Cool.
FuZ
363 posts
Joined January 2011
FuZ

Khelly wrote:

There's no reason other than to discuss how special you are. Hey dude I'm gay. Yeah me too. Cool.
That's what i was thinking
momp
144 posts
Joined November 2011
Topic Starter
momp
if you all really think there's no reason to have this thread then i'm fine with it closing. it derailed fairly quickly which honestly i should have expected. it was just something i wanted to try.
kirueggy
1,196 posts
Joined April 2014
kirueggy
Hey, I actually like this thread and its idea. The only people that I know who are LGBT irl are my two uncles and a classmate of mine, and I've always wondered how having a gay friend on the internet is like lol
Granger
835 posts
Joined April 2014
Granger

momp wrote:

Granger wrote:

Now i can understand panromantic (Basically biromantic for people who think bisexuality is not special enough) but what the hell is demisexual? What sex are you attracted to?

As for myself, i am just plain bisexual. This means i am attracted to all of the two sexes, both sexually and romantically.
demisexual is basically not feeling attraction to someone until you've formed a bond with them. you can read more about it here. and bisexual is attraction to two or more genders, while pansexual is attraction to all genders. similar, but they still have differences.
So... which sex are you attracted to?
Honestly, why has it to be a destinct sexuality to make romantic relationships out of your normal relationships? Its just redunant. It doesnt even tell me to which sex(es) you're attracted to... within your friends, so it isnt even helpful as therm, wouldnt you agree? Remember, sexualities are supposed to be a therm to identify which sex(es) you're attracted to.
For what its worth, i am not dating someone who i dont even know either, but i feel no need to invent a special therm for it. Most people are like this actually.

"Bi" means two, twice or both. A bicycle does not have two or more wheels either. (dictionary.reference.com/browse/bi-)
For that matter, "Demi" means half, lesser or partially. Not friend.

How many sexes are there? could you please list them for me and explain me their sexual characteristics?

I say theres only two sexes. Two is all of them, so if bi means two, its both of them, ergo them all, which makes pansexuality which means all rather redunant, wouldnt you agree again?

kirueggy wrote:

I've always wondered how having a gay friend on the internet is like lol
Its just like having a friend on the internet, except he likes guys. You're not missing much.
Granger
835 posts
Joined April 2014
Granger
Ok, reading trough the link you gave me, what is the difference between sexual attraction and sexual feelings? Attraction is a feeling.
chaee
chaee
If you want a safe place for all sexuality and genders, go to tumblr or some other whiny website. Who literally gives two wangs about your sexuality on a weeby pink game. (This coming from a pansexual female)
momp
144 posts
Joined November 2011
Topic Starter
momp

Granger wrote:

So... which sex are you attracted to?
Honestly, why has it to be a destinct sexuality to make romantic relationships out of your normal relationships? Its just redunant. It doesnt even tell me to which sex you're attracted to... within your friends, so it isnt even helpful as therm, wouldnt you agree? Remember, sexualities are supposed to be a therm to identify which sex(es) you're attracted to.
For what its worth, i am not dating someone who i dont even know either, but i feel no need to invent a special therm for it. Most people are like this actually.

"Bi" means two, twice or both. A bicycle does not have two or more wheels either. (dictionary.reference.com/browse/bi-)

How many sexes are there? could you please list them for me and explain me their sexual characteristics?

I say theres only two sexes. Two is all of them, so if bi means two, its both of them, ergo them all, which makes pansexuality which means all rather redunant, wouldnt you agree again?
i'm attracted to all "sexes", and all genders. sex ≠ gender, though. gender is how you identify and has nothing to do with your anatomy. intersex people exist as well, which is also why i'm kind of against the use of sex in reference to gender. sorry if that doesn't make sense. (link talks about genitals so beware)

about gender, there are tons of genders out there. some may argue that tumblr invented them or whatever, but people going against the societal gender binary have been around for a while, but due to how socially unacceptable it was, nowadays it just seems like some new thing where suddenly everyone is trans. this explains the whole sex vs. gender thing a little better.

often, at least for me anyway, such specific terms like demisexual are used so people have something they can identify as and feel comfortable as. they look at a term for gender or sexuality and be like "hey, that's just like me!". it's not a matter of feeling special, but more of a sense of belonging and feeling proud of who they are, at least the way i see it. i don't really get why people are so quick to make fun of others just for being comfortable with themselves.

Granger wrote:

Ok, reading trough the link you gave me, what is the difference between sexual attraction and sexual feelings? Attraction is a feeling.
attraction and feelings are the same thing. romantic and sexual are two different things, though.

i hope that all makes sense. if you have more questions i'm happy to answer them.
Granger
835 posts
Joined April 2014
Granger

momp wrote:

i'm attracted to all "sexes", and all genders. sex ≠ gender, though. gender is how you identify and has nothing to do with your anatomy. intersex people exist as well, which is also why i'm kind of against the use of sex in reference to gender. sorry if that doesn't make sense. (link talks about genitals so beware)

about gender, there are tons of genders out there. some may argue that tumblr invented them or whatever, but people going against the societal gender binary have been around for a while, but due to how socially unacceptable it was, nowadays it just seems like some new thing where suddenly everyone is trans. this explains the whole sex vs. gender thing a little better.
I know all this about sex ≠ gender already but i dont know why you bring it up, theres no need to, note how i was using sex to refer to the sex and not to the gender? (Still, it might be usefull for other people reading this.)

often, at least for me anyway, such specific terms like demisexual are used so people have something they can identify as and feel comfortable as. they look at a term for gender or sexuality and be like "hey, that's just like me!". it's not a matter of feeling special, but more of a sense of belonging and feeling proud of who they are, at least the way i see it. i don't really get why people are so quick to make fun of others just for being comfortable with themselves.
Please compare this to a ballclub. Why is it not enough to belong to the ballclub, but it has specifically to be the softball club? Of course, with this analogy you could argue that theres quite a difference since softballs are floppy and soft, while footballs are hard, however is it really this much of a difference between being attracted to someone and being attracted to someone from you friends?

attraction and feelings are the same thing. romantic and sexual are two different things, though.

i hope that all makes sense. if you have more questions i'm happy to answer them.
Well, the link you gave me differs between these two, stating that Demisexuals have no sexual attraction but sexual feelings, explaining it with that sexual attraction is not something you choose but sexual feelings are.
Ok, nevermind, i missread. Moving on.

In any case, thanks for answering my questions.
Yuudachi-kun
5,435 posts
Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun
I'm convinced people keep making up genders in order to "specifically describe" how they feel about themselves.
B1rd
2,974 posts
Joined December 2013
B1rd

momp wrote:

what i mean by "allies not speaking over lgbt peers" is that allies do not deal with the same things that lgbt individuals do, and thus they shouldn't try and invalidate those experiences. i'm not great at explaining things but that's the best i can say it. and when i say "safe space", i mean a place where those in the lgbt spectrum can talk without being ridiculed or judged, which is kind of what you're doing by calling my preferences fake and stupid. sure, you can have your opinions, i really don't care what you think about me, but the point is that this specific thread isn't meant to be the place for it.
And I'm saying that safe space hugboxes have no place on this forum. There are plenty of sites like that on the internet but this one isn't going to be one of them as far as I can help it. Talk about your tumblr sexualities all you want but don't expect not have people give their opinions about it.

Nanodermic wrote:

Honestly, it's B1rd and he's given me sh!t before so don't bother to take any from him.

incoming witty comment from B1rd about how I am an X and was wrong about Y in thread Z
Don't remember you.

Khelly wrote:

I'm convinced people keep making up genders in order to "specifically describe" how they feel about themselves.
People make up all sorts of redundant terms so they can feel special and play the identity politics game.
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deletemyaccount
730 posts
Joined May 2013
deletemyaccount
Why can't we be friends
Granger
835 posts
Joined April 2014
Granger

Philantropist wrote:

Why can't we be friends
counter question: Why cant friends have differing or opposing oponions on things?
deletemyaccount
730 posts
Joined May 2013
deletemyaccount

Granger wrote:

counter question: Why cant friends have differing or opposing oponions on things?
They can, it's just that everyone is so concerned with ME ME ME ME ME that they can't accept the idea that other people are different
Granger
835 posts
Joined April 2014
Granger
Also B1rd, judging on how OP answers my questions and stuff i dont feel like this is a echochamber/hug box, you may have overreacted a little....
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