No it's not, for once. I don't understand the point of this thread thoNanodermic wrote:
Hopefully this isn't a complete troll, but LGBT stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender.FuZ wrote:
What the fuck is LGBT, looks like a sect
No it's not, for once. I don't understand the point of this thread thoNanodermic wrote:
Hopefully this isn't a complete troll, but LGBT stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender.FuZ wrote:
What the fuck is LGBT, looks like a sect
Sometimes people can be really ignorant towards someone's sexual orientation, and so I guess this thread, according to the OP is a social/emotional support base, per se.FuZ wrote:
I just don't understand the point of this thread
I hope you don't get this wrong but being ignorant and being rude are two different things. To be honest you can't expect people to pick their words carefully every time they say something.Nanodermic wrote:
Sometimes people can be really ignorant towards someone's sexual orientation, and so I guess this thread, according to the OP is a social/emotional support base, per se.FuZ wrote:
I just don't understand the point of this thread
A thread for LGBT osu! players to hang out and chill and discuss their own thing without fear or being criticized somewhere else... unfortunately this thread already went to shit real quickFuZ wrote:
I don't understand the point of this thread tho
Isn't to be expected, these kind of threads always draw attention as they are meant to be support clubs of sorts.kirueggy wrote:
A thread for LGBT osu! players to hang out and chill and discuss their own thing without fear or being criticized somewhere else... unfortunately this thread already went to shit real quickFuZ wrote:
I don't understand the point of this thread tho
I meant people were ignorant towards what their sexual orientation actually means and uses it as a means to be rude. I just didn't elaborate too far because I don't want to look on the dark side of things in a thread of which I do not apply to.joi- wrote:
I hope you don't get this wrong but being ignorant and being rude are two different things. To be honest you can't expect people to pick their words carefully every time they say something.
demisexual is basically not feeling attraction to someone until you've formed a bond with them. you can read more about it here. and bisexual is attraction to two or more genders, while pansexual is attraction to all genders. similar, but they still have differences.Granger wrote:
Now i can understand panromantic (Basically biromantic for people who think bisexuality is not special enough) but what the hell is demisexual? What sex are you attracted to?
As for myself, i am just plain bisexual. This means i am attracted to all of the two sexes, both sexually and romantically.
Khelly wrote:
There's no reason other than to discuss how special you are. Hey dude I'm gay. Yeah me too. Cool.
That's what i was thinkingKhelly wrote:
There's no reason other than to discuss how special you are. Hey dude I'm gay. Yeah me too. Cool.
So... which sex are you attracted to?momp wrote:
demisexual is basically not feeling attraction to someone until you've formed a bond with them. you can read more about it here. and bisexual is attraction to two or more genders, while pansexual is attraction to all genders. similar, but they still have differences.Granger wrote:
Now i can understand panromantic (Basically biromantic for people who think bisexuality is not special enough) but what the hell is demisexual? What sex are you attracted to?
As for myself, i am just plain bisexual. This means i am attracted to all of the two sexes, both sexually and romantically.
Its just like having a friend on the internet, except he likes guys. You're not missing much.kirueggy wrote:
I've always wondered how having a gay friend on the internet is like lol
i'm attracted to all "sexes", and all genders. sex ≠ gender, though. gender is how you identify and has nothing to do with your anatomy. intersex people exist as well, which is also why i'm kind of against the use of sex in reference to gender. sorry if that doesn't make sense. (link talks about genitals so beware)Granger wrote:
So... which sex are you attracted to?
Honestly, why has it to be a destinct sexuality to make romantic relationships out of your normal relationships? Its just redunant. It doesnt even tell me to which sex you're attracted to... within your friends, so it isnt even helpful as therm, wouldnt you agree? Remember, sexualities are supposed to be a therm to identify which sex(es) you're attracted to.
For what its worth, i am not dating someone who i dont even know either, but i feel no need to invent a special therm for it. Most people are like this actually.
"Bi" means two, twice or both. A bicycle does not have two or more wheels either. (dictionary.reference.com/browse/bi-)
How many sexes are there? could you please list them for me and explain me their sexual characteristics?
I say theres only two sexes. Two is all of them, so if bi means two, its both of them, ergo them all, which makes pansexuality which means all rather redunant, wouldnt you agree again?
attraction and feelings are the same thing. romantic and sexual are two different things, though.Granger wrote:
Ok, reading trough the link you gave me, what is the difference between sexual attraction and sexual feelings? Attraction is a feeling.
I know all this about sex ≠ gender already but i dont know why you bring it up, theres no need to, note how i was using sex to refer to the sex and not to the gender? (Still, it might be usefull for other people reading this.)momp wrote:
i'm attracted to all "sexes", and all genders. sex ≠ gender, though. gender is how you identify and has nothing to do with your anatomy. intersex people exist as well, which is also why i'm kind of against the use of sex in reference to gender. sorry if that doesn't make sense. (link talks about genitals so beware)
about gender, there are tons of genders out there. some may argue that tumblr invented them or whatever, but people going against the societal gender binary have been around for a while, but due to how socially unacceptable it was, nowadays it just seems like some new thing where suddenly everyone is trans. this explains the whole sex vs. gender thing a little better.
often, at least for me anyway, such specific terms like demisexual are used so people have something they can identify as and feel comfortable as. they look at a term for gender or sexuality and be like "hey, that's just like me!". it's not a matter of feeling special, but more of a sense of belonging and feeling proud of who they are, at least the way i see it. i don't really get why people are so quick to make fun of others just for being comfortable with themselves.Please compare this to a ballclub. Why is it not enough to belong to the ballclub, but it has specifically to be the softball club? Of course, with this analogy you could argue that theres quite a difference since softballs are floppy and soft, while footballs are hard, however is it really this much of a difference between being attracted to someone and being attracted to someone from you friends?
attraction and feelings are the same thing. romantic and sexual are two different things, though.
i hope that all makes sense. if you have more questions i'm happy to answer them.
And I'm saying that safe space hugboxes have no place on this forum. There are plenty of sites like that on the internet but this one isn't going to be one of them as far as I can help it. Talk about your tumblr sexualities all you want but don't expect not have people give their opinions about it.momp wrote:
what i mean by "allies not speaking over lgbt peers" is that allies do not deal with the same things that lgbt individuals do, and thus they shouldn't try and invalidate those experiences. i'm not great at explaining things but that's the best i can say it. and when i say "safe space", i mean a place where those in the lgbt spectrum can talk without being ridiculed or judged, which is kind of what you're doing by calling my preferences fake and stupid. sure, you can have your opinions, i really don't care what you think about me, but the point is that this specific thread isn't meant to be the place for it.
Don't remember you.Nanodermic wrote:
Honestly, it's B1rd and he's given me sh!t before so don't bother to take any from him.
incoming witty comment from B1rd about how I am an X and was wrong about Y in thread Z
People make up all sorts of redundant terms so they can feel special and play the identity politics game.Khelly wrote:
I'm convinced people keep making up genders in order to "specifically describe" how they feel about themselves.
counter question: Why cant friends have differing or opposing oponions on things?Philantropist wrote:
Why can't we be friends
They can, it's just that everyone is so concerned with ME ME ME ME ME that they can't accept the idea that other people are differentGranger wrote:
counter question: Why cant friends have differing or opposing oponions on things?
No, that's what he's saying he wants it to be.Granger wrote:
Also B1rd, judging on how OP answers my questions and stuff i dont feel like this is a echochamber/hug box, you may have overreacted a little....
Reminds me of the time where people introduced "demiboy/girl" to the long ass list of gender identities, and it means that you "partially" identify as a boy or girl. Like go ahead and label yourself whatever you want but just remember you will always be stuck born as one of two things; a man or a womanB1rd wrote:
People make up all sorts of redundant terms so they can feel special and play the identity politics game.Khelly wrote:
I'm convinced people keep making up genders in order to "specifically describe" how they feel about themselves.
Not quite accurate (Trans people and them transisitoning is a thing) but this demigirl/boy fad was, for lack of a better word, pretty stupid.kirueggy wrote:
you will always be stuck born as one of two things; a man or a woman
triggered in a sense that you heavily associated them with the movement you mentioned, instantly stopped thinking about what she was saying, and switched in your "must-fight-tumblr"-mindset. You just confirmed what I was saying. You even confirmed the keywords I mentioned.B1rd wrote:
Thanks deadbeat, you know how much I love to be silenced for speaking my opinion.I'm not triggered by those words. I just find these made up sexual preference terms stupid and thus I mock them. I did read the OP in fact, and the words that triggered me were 'safe space' and 'Allies are welcome to join the discussion as well as long as you do not speak over the voices of your LGBT peers'. These words are straight from the progressive college campuses where men get lynched for false rape allegations without a shred of evidence and people get expelled for speaking conservative opinions. It's this 'your rights end where my feelings begin' and 'free speech is a hate speech' mentality that I have a problem with and has no place in a forum which purpose is to discuss things. If you want me to not speak out against these things then you're gonna have to perma-ban me.Railey2 wrote:
B1rd's and Alucard's criticism seems rather misplaced here. This thread is not an "overblown liberal parade" (great way to put it, Reditum). It's just meant as a platform where people can talk in LGBT-context. Nothing bad about that, although it is fair to question if there is a need for this platform.
To me it seems like you two got triggered by certain keywords (probably "safe, panromantic, demisexual") and instantly switched into a must-battle-tumblr-mindset.
Read what shes actually saying, don't get carried away.
Statistically, clearly not fast enough.fallist wrote:
The thread started like, 2 days ago. Why is there already a drama holy shit
LookRailey2 wrote:
triggered
Softballs are actually quite hard and i don't really understand where the name comes from. It's like those americans calling a game that barely uses feet 'football'.Granger wrote:
softballs are floppy and soft.
Yoooooooooo.Hika wrote:
yooooooooooooooo
Keyword: BornGranger wrote:
Not quite accurate (Trans people and them transisitoning is a thing) but this demigirl/boy fad was, for lack of a better word, pretty stupid.kirueggy wrote:
you will always be stuck born as one of two things; a man or a woman
Id respect these things much more if they'd actually do it rather than just say how special they are. Like, you identify as dog? Go and act like one, dog.
Good.B1rd wrote:
Don't remember you.Nanodermic wrote:
Honestly, it's B1rd and he's given me sh!t before so don't bother to take any from him.
incoming witty comment from B1rd about how I am an X and was wrong about Y in thread Z
Oh whups, overlooked that. My bad.Khelly wrote:
Keyword: Born
Trans cannot change what you were born as