There are 6,647,904 users, and I can hardly FC 3 star songs (well some) how in the world am I #159,109? It just makes you put things into perspective when you compare yourself to the world, and it just doesn't seem right. A lot of these users must not even play much at all.
forum
Putting things in perspective.
posted
Total Posts
40
Yeah I totally feel what you're saying dude, it DOES seem nuts.
First off, there's probably like 1 million actively playing accounts at most. Possibly less - if you told me it was 500,000 recently active players, I'd believe that too.
Secondly, it seems everyone except an elite chosen few are really bad at this game. Like, everyone except a couple thousand people who have played a lot/have seriously good genes/or both all suck at this game.
We're similar in rank. Amongst a large number of people who (almost) all suck at this game, we possibly suck slightly less than average.
Not that that actually means much.
Three - this game has a seriously big ass learning curve, and I don't know about you, but the only reason why I got past my first day of playing was because I was stubborn - "How could I get stuck on a game's NORMAL difficulty? This is absurd! I can't believe this, I'm going to keep on going until I beat this stupid level!"
... I didn't actually start to have fun, real fun, until about 500-1000 plays in. My experience might not be representative, but I'd say most people have started an account, played a little bit of the game, utterly sucked at it, then quit in disgust to never come back.
And that's not because the game is bad or anything, it's just different from absolutely anything else most people have played.
First off, there's probably like 1 million actively playing accounts at most. Possibly less - if you told me it was 500,000 recently active players, I'd believe that too.
Secondly, it seems everyone except an elite chosen few are really bad at this game. Like, everyone except a couple thousand people who have played a lot/have seriously good genes/or both all suck at this game.
We're similar in rank. Amongst a large number of people who (almost) all suck at this game, we possibly suck slightly less than average.
Not that that actually means much.
Three - this game has a seriously big ass learning curve, and I don't know about you, but the only reason why I got past my first day of playing was because I was stubborn - "How could I get stuck on a game's NORMAL difficulty? This is absurd! I can't believe this, I'm going to keep on going until I beat this stupid level!"
... I didn't actually start to have fun, real fun, until about 500-1000 plays in. My experience might not be representative, but I'd say most people have started an account, played a little bit of the game, utterly sucked at it, then quit in disgust to never come back.
And that's not because the game is bad or anything, it's just different from absolutely anything else most people have played.
Well that's normal, not just for osu! but for every other game.The number of registered users is always at least 10 times (in most cases even more) than active users.Also don't forget in osu there are 4 modes, not just standard.So yea... the number is correct if you think about it.If you want to count only the active users in standard mode... I would guess somewhere around 250-300k.And most of the players in 100k+ are replacing old players that are not active anymore.Note that those numbers are just my approximate guess.
Topic Starter
Yeah, it may just be me, but I learn quick. My experience was by the end of day 1 or 2 I was beating normals, with C's or B's I think. So from my experience it seemed like the game was easy to learn but hard to master, as FCing is quite difficult for me. I agree with what you say, it just seems like people don't have patience for this kind of stuff. I'm just used to putting a lot of time into games (such as xenoblade chronicles and dark souls 2).Talinoth wrote:
Three - this game has a seriously big ass learning curve, and I don't know about you, but the only reason why I got past my first day of playing was because I was stubborn - "How could I get stuck on a game's NORMAL difficulty? This is absurd! I can't believe this, I'm going to keep on going until I beat this stupid level!"
... I didn't actually start to have fun, real fun, until about 500-1000 plays in. My experience might not be representative, but I'd say most people have started an account, played a little bit of the game, utterly sucked at it, then quit in disgust to never come back.
And that's not because the game is bad or anything, it's just different from absolutely anything else most people have played.
Topic Starter
It makes sense, with the users split within 4 categories. It just only seems weird when you think about it.Spirit_Dreamer wrote:
Well that's normal, not just for osu! but for every other game.The number of registered users is always at least 10 times (in most cases even more) than active users.Also don't forget in osu there are 4 modes, not just standard.
the majority of players is actually clicking the circles with the mouse
the majority of the users are actually multi-accounts and those that decided to quit after playing for one day, what you should compare yourself with are the active players
Ranks seem to decay quickly enough. And the community is getting better quite quickly as a whole too.Spirit_Dreamer wrote:
Well that's normal, not just for osu! but for every other game.The number of registered users is always at least 10 times (in most cases even more) than active users.Also don't forget in osu there are 4 modes, not just standard.So yea... the number is correct if you think about it.If you want to count only the active users in standard mode... I would guess somewhere around 250-300k.And most of the players in 100k+ are replacing old players that are not active anymore.Note that those numbers are just my approximate guess.
I took something of a hiatus, about 6 or so months where I played nearly no Osu at all except for maybe 1 game or so in between Terraria and League of Legends matches + uni work.
Before the break, I was at 100,000 something. I had nearly broken the barrier into 5 digits with only about 400 pp
After the break, I was nearly at 150,000. I now have 630 pp and I'm at 148k.
Rank decay is quite fast, or the community is improving a lot and growing in size considerably. I'm going with the second option.
I thought I wasn't improving for a while. Turns out I am improving, but the larger playerbase is also growing in skill quite quickly too.
I have no choice but to focus on my own personal improvement.
Other humans are too strong.
Topic Starter
It's a shame, osu should not include players that haven't been active for a year or 2.Karuta- wrote:
the majority of the users are actually multi-accounts and those that decided to quit after playing for one day, what you should compare yourself with are the active players
True.For the last year I had some problems with tablet area and didn't improved much.And even without actualy stoping to play droped from 19k rank to 33k rank xD.But that's a good thing the playerbase becoming larger and better.Talinoth wrote:
Rank decay is quite fast, or the community is improving a lot and growing in size considerably. I'm going with the second option.
I thought I wasn't improving for a while. Turns out I am improving, but the larger playerbase is also growing in skill quite quickly too.
I have no choice but to focus on my own personal improvement.
Other humans are too strong.
there are about 250-300k players that actually play since i reached 200k in few days even tho i barely got any pp.
indeed my friendTalinoth wrote:
Ranks seem to decay quickly enough. And the community is getting better quite quickly as a whole too.
Rank decay is quite fast, or the community is improving a lot and growing in size considerably. I'm going with the second option.
I thought I wasn't improving for a while. Turns out I am improving, but the larger playerbase is also growing in skill quite quickly too.
I have no choice but to focus on my own personal improvement.
Other humans are too strong.
Most people don't even reach a playcount of 400. There's a tremendous amount of people who are just testing the game but don't really stick to it as it lacks a clear purpose(unlike rescuing peach from bowser).
Or they dont find their favorite music here cause it's J-Pop, Vocaloid and Touhou all the way through.
I think many people also come back after a longer period of time(like me) but forgot their login-data and just make a new account so you get a decent amount of accs left behind. And quit the game again. And forget their login-data again.
It took me whopping 4 starts to get into osu! and not everyone has will keep osu! on their external HDD and remember their nick/maps they played.
Personally I know 5 persons who came to osu! with me from other games and are above 300k cause they didn't find osu! interesting enough to stick with it.
Or they dont find their favorite music here cause it's J-Pop, Vocaloid and Touhou all the way through.
I think many people also come back after a longer period of time(like me) but forgot their login-data and just make a new account so you get a decent amount of accs left behind. And quit the game again. And forget their login-data again.
It took me whopping 4 starts to get into osu! and not everyone has will keep osu! on their external HDD and remember their nick/maps they played.
Personally I know 5 persons who came to osu! with me from other games and are above 300k cause they didn't find osu! interesting enough to stick with it.
There are more people between me and Mommy than me and Hvick.
Makes you think
Makes you think
like 90% of accounts on osu are people who booted it up, played My Love once, and called the game "fucking stupid" because they were bad and quit forever xd
Don't take this the wrong way, but you haven't learnt quick. You have almost 6k plays, and still seem to be only able to play hard difficulties 'decently'.Theultraman191 wrote:
Yeah, it may just be me, but I learn quick. My experience was by the end of day 1 or 2 I was beating normals, with C's or B's I think. So from my experience it seemed like the game was easy to learn but hard to master, as FCing is quite difficult for me. I agree with what you say, it just seems like people don't have patience for this kind of stuff. I'm just used to putting a lot of time into games (such as xenoblade chronicles and dark souls 2).
Your skill progression is probably lower than average.
However, for a bit more relevance.
After 3 months, users are taken off the leaderboards and thus won't count against your rank. There are also a large amount of players who play very casually (a few times a month with friends on MP or whatever), so they won't really change much either.
there are a lot of people between you and your mom, damnKhelly wrote:
There are more people between me and Mommy than me and Hvick.
Makes you think
don't you ever feel lonely and neglected
Holy shit @ Momiji's acc.
99% acc average... constantly resisting the urge to play faster maps whenever possible...
If I only played maps I got 99% accuracy on I'd still be playing 2 star normals on OD 5/6.
99% acc average... constantly resisting the urge to play faster maps whenever possible...
If I only played maps I got 99% accuracy on I'd still be playing 2 star normals on OD 5/6.
Mommy plays fast stuff all the time. You just haven't specced him.
Mommy doesn't play fast enough maps.
E m i
Topic Starter
Do plays count attempts at songs?Bauxe wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way, but you haven't learnt quick. You have almost 6k plays, and still seem to be only able to play hard difficulties 'decently'.
Your skill progression is probably lower than average.
Cause I liked to try songs that were out of my league such as insanes. Besides that my little brother occasionally plays on my account, but he can only do normals.
if you've really progressed quick than you'd probably be able to do 5 star stuff well by now at least. some have become "pro" in only like 2 years, tho they still aren't on the level of other older players, but way better than my sorry ass
To your first question, yes. Both fails and retries count. And secondly, your brother should get his own account, having two people share an account is a bannable offense (you didn't know so its k). You can still use the same osu client and swap between accounts. You won't lose the beatmaps you have installed etc. Then again he is a kid so maybe no one cares?Theultraman191 wrote:
Do plays count attempts at songs?
Cause I liked to try songs that were out of my league such as insanes. Besides that my little brother occasionally plays on my account, but he can only do normals.
I hate perspective.
I asked Kano on his stream when did he start playing (he was #900 at that moment, this January I think) and he said 12 months active. Right now I'm just about 12 months active, but I'm only rank #24k
I suppose my rank is not really THAT bad, but still, I'm a very competitive dude and knowing that I accomplished way less than him in the same period of time bugs me.
I asked Kano on his stream when did he start playing (he was #900 at that moment, this January I think) and he said 12 months active. Right now I'm just about 12 months active, but I'm only rank #24k
I suppose my rank is not really THAT bad, but still, I'm a very competitive dude and knowing that I accomplished way less than him in the same period of time bugs me.
you have 10k playcount, at my peak i got that much in 2 months. 10k playcount in 12 months means you barely play the game.
Yeah playcount is way different too
An hour a day is definitely not enough for this game
An hour a day is definitely not enough for this game
silmarilen wrote:
you have 10k playcount, at my peak i got that much in 2 months. 10k playcount in 12 months means you barely play the game.
Barely playing the game and I get to wave my above average e-penis around. 26 months ~~ 21k plays
You also only have 2 million hits 12 months "active" into the game. I've been active for a bit over 7 months and I have over 6 million hits. No, an hour isn't good enough. Try three and dedicate more than half of it to actively getting better.arihosu wrote:
Yeah playcount is way different too
An hour a day is definitely not enough for this game
Topic Starter
I thought what it meant was someone who already has an account playing on someones, such as if you know a pro as a friend and get him to boost your account by doing things out of your league?... Anyway I'll make sure he signs out when he plays, he's only 10 so I don't think he can make an account, I'm not sure. I really had no idea that this would count as an offense too. Sorry. I'm going to be gone for a week at camp, so I won't be able to reply.otoed1 wrote:
And secondly, your brother should get his own account, having two people share an account is a bannable offense (you didn't know so its k). You can still use the same osu client and swap between accounts. You won't lose the beatmaps you have installed etc. Then again he is a kid so maybe no one cares?
Topic Starter
He just got his, it's Rhyth8otoed1 wrote:
And secondly, your brother should get his own account
Gratz, also try not to double post <3. Instead of posting directly after yourself edit your original post and add edit stuff. EG.Theultraman191 wrote:
He just got his, it's Rhyth8otoed1 wrote:
And secondly, your brother should get his own account
EDIT: Look im an edit and stuff.
Edits won't be shown as edits if you're the last one who posted.
/edit: ikr
/edit: ikr
Smarty pants D:Endaris wrote:
Edits won't be shown as edits if you're the last one who posted.
:P:PI totally get your point there, and yes looking at the amount of registered users and your current ranking makes you think that you are in fact higher than ALOOT of other people without being that good. Anyway, the amount of active players is different and the amount of active (competitive) serious players is also different. But think about it this way, you still got plenty of people to pass and it´s going to take a while so why does it even matter 
Silm come on now you know playcount is irrelevant. I have 16k plays over a year and 4k pp.silmarilen wrote:
you have 10k playcount, at my peak i got that much in 2 months. 10k playcount in 12 months means you barely play the game.
Total hits is what we use
Pshh naw that just means your a dirty hackerMahogany wrote:
Silm come on now you know playcount is irrelevant. I have 16k plays over a year and 4k pp.silmarilen wrote:
you have 10k playcount, at my peak i got that much in 2 months. 10k playcount in 12 months means you barely play the game.
Total hits is what we use
That was sarcasm if whoever is reading this couldn't figure that out.
Topic Starter
ughhhhh, finally got back from marching band camp, but now my consistency is horrible, I'm kinda rusty... The ironic thing is my instructor would drill us into having good consistency, "You're not ready until you can do the performance 3 times in a row!"