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NewPlayer 2015-08-19T22:05:34+00:00

Hi! M4M from your queue:

[Easy]

00:10:845 (1) - maybe move it left for better flow and looking, something like this: http://puu.sh/jHl7e/e115125362.jpg, http://puu.sh/jHl8T/612c50c448.jpg. If you apply, you should make some changes on the next objects though
00:21:266 (1) - there are strong notes on downbeats so maybe sliders here? They follows both beats and vocals. Timeline: http://puu.sh/jHlBS/585ee01315.jpg

00:23:476 (1,2,3) - maybe make this more round. Example: http://puu.sh/jHqiC/678c5fa450.jpg. Also you can copy-paste this code into .osu to see how it changes:

SPOILER

196,112,23476,6,0,P|116:96|68:164,1,160,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,264,24740,6,0,P|124:319|198:301,1,160,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,224,26003,6,0,P|328:168|288:92,1,160,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

00:31:055 (3) - Ctrl+J, then copy-paste and flip it to replace 00:32:318 (4): http://puu.sh/jHmdV/62147181fe.jpg. If you apply, you can try something like this: http://puu.sh/jHmkG/8e85a347fb.jpg
00:36:423 (1) - same as 00:21:266 (1)
00:48:740 (1) - don't really like how it looks, try straight slider: http://puu.sh/jHmBy/d259c99867.jpg
00:50:003 (3) - if you apply previous suggestion, make it symmetrical to ^: http://puu.sh/jHmHu/a9316e6c00.jpg
00:55:055 (3,4) - try to Ctrl+G and Ctrl+J (1,2): http://puu.sh/jHmRY/cb755a4c93.jpg
01:00:108 (3,1) - better blanket. You can remove all white anchors of (3) except one: http://puu.sh/jHn3I/0da86234e7.jpg
01:03:897 (4) - maybe make white middle point to red so the wave looks better
01:17:792 (3) - make it straight slider as 01:20:318 (3) or just copy-paste 01:20:318 (3) so they will be parallel: http://puu.sh/jHnku/a0d94183dd.jpg (changed flow of (1,2) a bit)
01:21:898 (2,3) - idk about their shapes. That's ok though

[Normal]

00:03:266 (2) - move it up for better flow: http://puu.sh/jHntO/f9fe8b0e06.jpg
00:04:371 (4) and forwards - don't really like rhythm here, especially that pause between 00:05:792 (2,3). My suggestion: http://puu.sh/jHo6U/3ad946f33e.jpg (from 00:04:055 (3) to 00:09:108 (1))
00:16:529 (2) - copy-paste and flip (1): http://puu.sh/jHoh9/9372439755.jpg
00:17:792 (4,1) - better blanket
00:28:213 (5) - I think you can stack it with (3)
00:36:739 (2) - copy-paste (1) (or (2), as you like). same as 00:16:529 (2)
00:37:371 (3,4) - idk about overlaps in Normal, maybe they're fine
00:41:161 (1,2) - try to make it 1/1 rhythm, don't see any point for doing it that way
00:44:950 (1,2,3) - try to copy-paste 00:43:687 (1,2,3) and flip it hor. and vert. so it feels as repeating rhythm
00:47:476 (4) - move left a bit
00:51:897 (3) - move right a bit for better flow
00:52:529 (4) - suggesting that: http://puu.sh/jHoVw/a07d7fb13a.jpg or that: http://puu.sh/jHoWA/b07738ace9.jpg
01:13:055 (5) - try to copy-paste and flip (2)
01:16:529 (2) - maybe move it next to the end of (1) so newer players could read it better: http://puu.sh/jHp7t/d296842917.jpg
01:23:160 (3,4) - make it as (1,2) - move (4) left to keep the same distance between (2,4) as between (1,3)

[Hard]

00:01:529 (1,2) - try to do it that way: http://puu.sh/jHpDp/2211735312.jpg
00:02:634 (1,2) - suggesting to stack it properly
00:07:687 (1,2) - ^
00:08:318 (4,5) - ^
00:08:950 (1,2) - ^
00:09:582 (4,5) - ^
00:10:213 (1,2) - ^
^that part since 00:07:687 (1) plays weird with those unstacks as for me. It may be confusing to players, idk
00:38:003 (1,2) - copy-paste those 00:37:371 (1,2) to make them parallel
01:02:003 (4) - move it up for better flow
01:02:634 (1,2) - rotate (2) a bit: http://puu.sh/jHpXK/51b232dc43.jpg
01:09:897 (4,1) - why is spacing changes? There's vocals on the red tick so it may be confusing I think

Won't write about harder diffs since I'm not very experienced modder and can't find any notable issues here. Good luck!

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-08-20T00:07:10+00:00

NewPlayer wrote:
Hi! M4M from your queue:

[Easy]
00:10:845 (1) - maybe move it left for better flow changed the slider before instead
00:21:266 (1) - there are strong notes on downbeats so maybe sliders here? I like focusing completely on the vocals here
00:23:476 (1,2,3) - maybe make this more round. done
00:31:055 (3) - changed a bit and fixed blankets
00:36:423 (1) - same as 00:21:266 (1) again, I prefer emphasizing the vocals and keeping it a bit easier
00:48:740 (1) - don't really like how it looks, try straight slider I like how it looks
00:50:003 (3) - if you apply previous suggestion, make it symmetrical to ^^
00:55:055 (3,4) - try to Ctrl+G and Ctrl+J (1,2) done
01:00:108 (3,1) - better blanket. it's fine right now, hard to make it any better while still keeping consistent ds changed the slider afterwards a little bit though
01:03:897 (4) - maybe make white middle point to red so the wave looks better that slider looks fine, I don't like using red anchors if I don't absolutely have to
01:17:792 (3) - make it straight slider as 01:20:318 (3) done
01:21:898 (2,3) - idk about their shapes. That's ok though well, they are actually really ugly, changed

[Normal]
00:03:266 (2) - move it up for better flow done
00:04:371 (4) and forwards - not applied, but changed the rythm on the second of this part a bit to be consistent with the one before
00:16:529 (2) - copy-paste and flip (1) done
00:17:792 (4,1) - better blanket done
00:28:213 (5) - I think you can stack it with (3) would mess up ds of the following part of which is liek the current positioning very much. also it's a bit easier to read like this, which is good for a normal diff
00:36:739 (2) - copy-paste (1) (or (2), as you like). same as 00:16:529 (2) done
00:37:371 (3,4) - idk about overlaps in Normal, maybe they're fine distance snapped them
00:41:161 (1,2) - try to make it 1/1 rhythm, don't see any point for doing it that way It fits the vocals and brings little variety
00:44:950 (1,2,3) - try to copy-paste 00:43:687 (1,2,3) and flip it hor. and vert. so it feels as repeating rhythm I don't feel like using hte exact same pattern three times in a row, it just gets boring at that point
00:47:476 (4) - move left a bit done
00:51:897 (3) - move right a bit for better flow flows fine as is
00:52:529 (4) - suggesting that: I like having this mapped as one slider to the vocal, it also serves as little "pause" since the part after is one of the hardest
01:13:055 (5) - try to copy-paste and flip (2) done
01:16:529 (2) - maybe move it next to the end of (1) so newer players could read it better: done
01:23:160 (3,4) - make it as (1,2) - done

[Hard]
00:01:529 (1,2) - try to do it that way:would make the next one weird
00:02:634 (1,2) - suggesting to stack it properly
00:07:687 (1,2) - ^
00:08:318 (4,5) - ^
00:08:950 (1,2) - ^
00:09:582 (4,5) - ^
00:10:213 (1,2) - ^
they are fine like that, autostacking makes them look really bad since they are always stacked in the same direction
^that part since 00:07:687 (1) plays weird with those unstacks as for me. It may be confusing to players, idk ^^
00:38:003 (1,2) - copy-paste those 00:37:371 (1,2) to make them parallel done
01:02:003 (4) - move it up for better flow done
01:02:634 (1,2) - rotate (2) a bit: no, but I improved the blanket a bit
01:09:897 (4,1) - why is spacing changes? There's vocals on the red tick so it may be confusing I think added another note here, fits the vocals well and fixes the spacing without ruining the nice pattern afterwards

Won't write about harder diffs since I'm not very experienced modder and can't find any notable issues here. Good luck!

thanks for for the thorough mod

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2015-08-21T09:48:42+00:00

mod4mod more like mod4squad am i right

hahahahahahhaahhaha

Extra:
00:00:740 (1,2) - Man you know what I love? Trying to listen to sound effects that aren't part of the music when no music has been established yet. I'd literally just remove these. Especially since you have the 2nd one starting on an awkward 1/3 tick. It doesn't play well at all.
00:01:529 (1,2,3) - The grouping is really weird here, since it doesn't go with the music. This grouping would make more sense ( http://puu.sh/jJ3oR/76fee29ec1.jpg ). Although personally if it were me, I'd make (2) into 2 notes since the words seem independent enough that they don't need to be linked by a slider. It's also easier to make patterns with 3 notes and 2 sliders than 1 note and 3 sliders.
00:17:161 (5,6) - Like if you're going to do this at least have it go with SOMETHING in the music. Or hitsound it so it has PURPOSE. Because right now it just looks overmapped, and you NEVER want to overmap. My ears are a little clogged atm but I hear nothing indication the neccessity for it (people going ooh isn't a reason for this.)
00:17:792 (2,3) - Hitsound this so it actually follows the drums that you're following.
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These hitsounds are significantly louder than the others and it frightens me a little bit. Go into audacity and even out all of the volumes
00:26:318 (2) - You're gonna wanna avoid overlaps like this. Generally the only time you're gonna wanna overlap is if you can do so while making the map still look clean, and while not overlapping on any of the slider heads. And you just overlapped the slider heads

00:38:161 (5,6,7,8) - That sound effect is not definite enough to warrant being mapped like this. Delete pls
01:14:950 (4) - Once again like I can barely see the slider. Please make the map not so cramped. You have so much room to make nice stuff, don't resort to this.

aaaaaa. A lot of this seems overmapped. There are some decent ideas in here but a lot of times it just feels overwhelming. Also, the hitsounding is really off. Follow the drums of the map, don't just have random "BRRNGS" on some of the white ticks.

Insane:
00:02:318 (5) - try again james
00:41:792 (1) - This spacing makes no sense because you have jumps randomly followed by a super close slider
00:46:687 (3) - I literally miss this every time I play it because it's not really super natural to play, and I'm already looking past it, because I need to look ahead to see where I need to throw my cursor. I'm not looking back at (1 to see the random not there.
01:06:740 (4,5) - why

So I didn't say many specifics because I don't want to overload with things but the general issues that come up in this map is that your spacing is really sort of all over the place. And I understand that insanes are insanes and people have the belief that you have to turn off distance snap when mapping an insane but it's generally at least consistent in some way. Take a look at ranked insanes, and see that even though they have lots of jumps, there is a consistent idea of where home plate is. Also, you should have meaning to your patterns. Right now they seem all over the place, and not always with the music.

Light:
00:05:161 (1) - lower this a little bit so the previous slider goes straight into it.
00:14:318 (6) - don't cramp up sliders like this. Sliders don't like to be crammed, they like to be open and pretty owo.

A lot of issues in this diff are similar to the previous diffs, so I didn't go into them too much.

Hard:
00:02:634 (1,2) - If you're going to do your stacks like this, keep it conisstent throughout the diff. Otherwise, it looks like a mistake owo. Same goes for the next one. Either choose slight anti-jumps or stacks.
00:05:634 (3) - So what's your spacing. How do I tell that this is different from the previous notes without having to stare down the hitcircle (Which is never a good thing to do in maps
00:18:424 (1) - ^. An anti-jump really doesn't work as well as you think it does here.
00:53:161 (5) - SPACING MY DEAR SIR LIKE this would be the perfect time for some spaced out little isolated notes but you do this instead and it's making me sad.
01:25:371 (1) - hitsound pls?

Normal:
01:25:529 (1) - same as hard

I'm questioning this spread because this map is super simplistic while hard is pretty much a similar note density to insane

So most things are fine, but the higher diffs could use a lot of work in terms of making sure that the patterns aren't sporadic. Also, you should consider working on the hitsounding following the drumset in the background. Right now it sounds random

yay

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-08-21T12:10:24+00:00

Reditum wrote:
mod4mod more like mod4squad am i right

Insane:
00:02:318 (5) - try again james kk, remapped a little
00:41:792 (1) - This spacing makes no sense because you have jumps randomly followed by a super close slider changed and also worked a pit on the part after that
00:46:687 (3) - I literally miss this every time I play it because it's not really super natural to play, and I'm already looking past it, because I need to look ahead to see where I need to throw my cursor. I'm not looking back at (1 to see the random not there. You're supposed to miss there :v) nah, I'm kidding obviously, changed that part
01:06:740 (4,5) - why made it a slider instead

So I didn't say many specifics because I don't want to overload with things but the general issues that come up in this map is that your spacing is really sort of all over the place. And I understand that insanes are insanes and people have the belief that you have to turn off distance snap when mapping an insane but it's generally at least consistent in some way. Take a look at ranked insanes, and see that even though they have lots of jumps, there is a consistent idea of where home plate is. Also, you should have meaning to your patterns. Right now they seem all over the place, and not always with the music.
mmmm, there are many parts with consistent spacing, for example the longer jump/singletap sequences in the beginning are all 1.3x
And stuff like this 00:10:845 (1,2,1,2) - really helps the buildup imo, followed by an anti-jump sequence that goes well with the vocals 00:11:476 (1,2,3,4) -

Then this part 00:13:371 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - => 1.5x jump, followed by a 0.5x triple, followed by a 1.85-2.0 jump to the next with the same spacing
00:15:897 (1,2,3,4) - this is 1.5x-2.0x.-repeating, also like 00:17:476 (2,3) - they are 1 whole beat apart, so a little spacing change doesn't really change anything (besides ruining patterns/blankets)

00:18:424 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is like before, but this time the spacing of the triples increases every combo
00:23:476 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 2.0x snapped
00:24:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - decreases spacing until stack then increases by same amount
00:26:950 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - only 2 is off in this combo, but only by 0.1 and it makes for a better pattern
00:28:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ok, this is inconsistent, but it's a sacrifice for that slider overlap/stack and the blankets
00:29:792 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - all 1.5x again
00:31:055 (1,2,3) - 2.1x jump to this combo, which is consistent at 2.0x in itself
00:32:161 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1.5x to this, which then becomes a ~3.5x star, emphasizing the strong vocals + beat, followed by an antijump/stack
00:32:950 (6,1) - close since it's the only 3/4 slider on the map, makes it better to play
00:34:213 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 2.5x +/- 0.05
00:37:371 (1,2,1,2) - increasing spacing for fits really well here I think
00:38:634 (1,2,3,4) - changed a bit
00:39:266 (1,2,3,4) - 2x anti jump seems fitting here
00:39:897 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is 2.0x except one jump that is 2.3x but it makes the whole thing look better
00:43:687 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - only the ds of 6 is lower, but it makes the pattern look better
00:44:950 (1,2,3) - changed a bit
- remade most of the part between anyways -
00:48:108 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - second combo has higher spacing, firs well with the changing sound of the drumroll
00:48:740 (1,2,3,4) - k this is a bit incosistent, but it makes some of the stacks possible/better, for example having 00:49:371 (4) - blanketed by 00:50:003 (3) -
00:49:687 (1,2,3,4,5) - 1.9x for singletaps, 1.8x for sliders, looks better that way
00:50:950 (1,2,3,4) - consistent
00:51:897 (1,2,3) - 3 incosistent, makes a better looking blanket
00:52:845 (1,2,3,4,5) - lowered ds for the triple
00:53:792 (1,2,3,4,5) - all 1.7x
2.1x gap to 00:55:055 (1,2,3,4) - this is all 1.7x again
00:56:318 (1,2,3,4) - increasing for buildup
00:58:529 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - stack into jump, fits well here I think
01:00:108 (1,2,3,4) - all 2.1
01:00:582 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - lkittle change into 1.3x drumroll stream
01:01:371 (1,2,3,4) - all 1.2
1.4x to NC => 01:02:003 (1,2,3) - all 1.2 again
1.4x to NC which is all 1.4 01:02:634 (1,2,3,4) -
1.25x to 1.35 combo with antijump 01:03:266 (1,2,3,4) -
01:03:897 (1,2,3,4) - incosistent by ~0.1 but makes the sldierblnaket pattern better
01:05:161 (1,2,3,4) - same distance between all sliderstarts
01:05:950 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - consisetnt in combos, little changes between
01:08:950 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - little increasing sv+jump pattern followed by consistent spacing
01:11:476 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is inconsitent, but it still plays well and no need to use DS all the time
01:12:740 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - bit relaxing 0.7x pattern
01:15:266 (1,2,1,2) - bit increasinf between combos
01:16:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - incosistency for a nice bblanket and flow is decent too
01:17:476 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - increasing ds nc pattern
01:20:003 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - antijump pattern that fits well here
01:21:108 (1,2,3) - 1.1x triple
01:21:582 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - all 1.1x except a bit reduced for the triple
01:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^same with 1.2x
01:24:108 (1,2,3,4) - all 1.7
01:25:529 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - increasing spacing nc jumps fit well here
01:27:424 (1,2,3) - low ds makes it much less likely to break on the decellerated slider

So there actually it lots of reasoning and consitency behind the ds, even if it might not look like it at first glance

Also that difff is barely still an Insane and more Extra level, I didn't add the Light Insane for no reason

Light:
00:05:161 (1) - lower this a little bit so the previous slider goes straight into it. would look meh, instead changed the slider before for the same effect without touching the pattern afterwards
00:14:318 (6) - don't cramp up sliders like this. Sliders don't like to be crammed, they like to be open and pretty owo. I think that pattern is fine here

A lot of issues in this diff are similar to the previous diffs, so I didn't go into them too much.
I wrote a whole paragraph about my ds reasoning in this post already

Hard:
00:02:634 (1,2) - If you're going to do your stacks like this, keep it conisstent throughout the diff. Otherwise, it looks like a mistake owo. Same goes for the next one. Either choose slight anti-jumps or stacks.
I looked through all of them and made them all as 0.1x as possible, autostacking the would look really bad here
00:05:634 (3) - So what's your spacing. How do I tell that this is different from the previous notes without having to stare down the hitcircle (Which is never a good thing to do in maps fixed
00:18:424 (1) - ^. An anti-jump really doesn't work as well as you think it does here. I really liked that blanket, but you're right, fixed
00:53:161 (5) - SPACING MY DEAR SIR LIKE this would be the perfect time for some spaced out little isolated notes but you do this instead and it's making me sad. Put some cross screen stars here
nah, I think it is fine as it is, I want to keep it a hard after all and it fits as is
01:25:371 (1) - hitsound pls? I suppose you mean the end of the spinner? Sure

Normal:
01:25:529 (1) - same as hard ^

I'm questioning this spread because this map is super simplistic while hard is pretty much a similar note density to insane
It should be okay since there are two easier diffs, even if there is a 1.45 gap between normal - hard

So most things are fine, but the higher diffs could use a lot of work in terms of making sure that the patterns aren't sporadic.

Also, you should consider working on the hitsounding following the drumset in the background. Right now it sounds random
Huh, the hitsounding is simple, but consistent,
Focusing it mostly on drums would'nt fit imo since it's mostly mapped to vocals and other instruments

yay

thanks for the mod

I hope you can understand the reasoning behind most of the patterns and spacing

Avishay

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Avishay 2015-08-21T14:18:34+00:00

Reditum wrote:
mod4mod more like mod4squad am i right

hahahahahahhaahhaha

Extra:
00:00:740 (1,2) - Man you know what I love? Trying to listen to sound effects that aren't part of the music when no music has been established yet. I'd literally just remove these. Especially since you have the 2nd one starting on an awkward 1/3 tick. It doesn't play well at all. I'll admit the second one is a bit awkward, but I don't really want to remove it, changed to one slider.
00:01:529 (1,2,3) - The grouping is really weird here, since it doesn't go with the music. This grouping would make more sense ( http://puu.sh/jJ3oR/76fee29ec1.jpg ). Although personally if it were me, I'd make (2) into 2 notes since the words seem independent enough that they don't need to be linked by a slider. It's also easier to make patterns with 3 notes and 2 sliders than 1 note and 3 sliders. How come it doesn't go with the music? It follows the vocals just right.
00:17:161 (5,6) - Like if you're going to do this at least have it go with SOMETHING in the music. Or hitsound it so it has PURPOSE. Because right now it just looks overmapped, and you NEVER want to overmap. My ears are a little clogged atm but I hear nothing indication the neccessity for it (people going ooh isn't a reason for this.) ooh.. But I like it with the vocals, and the hitsounds are giving it some purpose, don't they..
00:17:792 (2,3) - Hitsound this so it actually follows the drums that you're following. Ah.. Hitsounding is hard.
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These hitsounds are significantly louder than the others and it frightens me a little bit. Go into audacity and even out all of the volumes I hear them on the same level, but I'll see if there's anything to re-set.
00:26:318 (2) - You're gonna wanna avoid overlaps like this. Generally the only time you're gonna wanna overlap is if you can do so while making the map still look clean, and while not overlapping on any of the slider heads. And you just overlapped the slider heads Generally I'd agree, but on this specific case, this one looks just fine in my opinion :S
00:38:161 (5,6,7,8) - That sound effect is not definite enough to warrant being mapped like this. Delete pls I honestly think it goes just fine and I really like the way it plays, added some hitsounds but I won't remove it unless it is completely unranked.
01:14:950 (4) - Once again like I can barely see the slider. Please make the map not so cramped. You have so much room to make nice stuff, don't resort to this. Honestly you'll see it just fine when you play, AR 9.6 is more than enough and I really like the way it plays.

aaaaaa. A lot of this seems overmapped. There are some decent ideas in here but a lot of times it just feels overwhelming. Also, the hitsounding is really off. Follow the drums of the map, don't just have random "BRRNGS" on some of the white ticks.

yay

bbbbb. Oh hey CDFA, I'll go over the hitsounds sometime around, as for the overmapping, some ideas might seem like overmapping but I use whatever suits.

Thank you for your time.

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Source:ゆるゆり
Tags:tv size Yuru Yuri Mikami Shiori Ootsubo Yuka Tsuda Minami Ookubo Rumi Avishay
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Lasse

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Lasse 2015-08-21T15:48:37+00:00

GD updated
also added a new hitsound for the spinnerend on the easier diffs => download again
+ disabled Widescreen Storyboard to make it consistent throughout the diffs (it was still enabled on Light Insane and A's Pace)

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Lasse 2015-08-21T18:06:31+00:00

Major hitsound update for Easy - Insane, added a new soft-hitnormal and made most those parts that are actually mapped to the drums also sound like that.
DL again pls

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Lasse 2015-08-21T19:12:52+00:00

I just saw that the original BG was 1920:1200 (16:10) and got resized to some really bad resolution, so I made a new one, this time in proper 1366x768 and put it in

=> Download again for the third time today

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Boruma 2015-08-21T23:01:15+00:00

Light Insane

00:02:792 (2) - This beat seems alright currently, but it is still out of sync with the instrument in the background. With it's current time placement, it doesn't have a beat in the song to represent it. The strum of the acoustic instrument sounds on the blue tick that's closer to the 1st note of the combo.
00:37:371 (1) - The vocals seem to indicate a slider here, so it feels rather weird to play 2 hit circles when the vocals hold on a syllable for half a measure. Instead of the 1 beat being a hit circle, I'd recommend making it a very short slider that goes from the white tick it's already on to the blue tick in between the original two hit circles.
01:15:897 - In the vocals, there's a slight "yuu" sound here. You could put a transitional combo hit circle here, but since the vocal is really soft at that time, it's not necessarily needed.

Insane

00:20:002 (4) - The object's end isn't snapped according to aimod.
01:15:582 (1) - This beat seems rather far from the previous hit circle. Most of your song had a relatively consistent length for their jump segments, but this one for some reason seems to have a greater difference.

A's Pace

Sorry. I'm not very good when it comes to these really fast difficulties.
00:18:740 (2-5) - It might be better to lessen the distance between the 2 hit circle and the streamed slider. It creates a unity effect with consistent repeating segments.
00:19:371 (6-8) - Just a suggestion based on the previous jumps, but maybe shorten the distance a bit on this one as well?
00:34:055 (2) - This might be hard to play if the user doesn't have a more transparent skin.
00:48:739 (1) - This hit circle seems like an excessive circle within that triple.
00:57:266 (4) - Instead of a regular slider, you may want to make it a back-arrow slider to reflect the monotone vocal that's at this part of the song.

I'm not really good at trying to recognize mistakes in this fast of a difficulty, but I hope that helps a bit.

Overall it's a rather good beatmap set, and rather fun to play.

It's well mapped. Sorry I don't know anything about slider velocity multipliers, so I couldn't really help there.

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Lasse 2015-08-21T23:18:35+00:00

Boruma wrote:
Light Insane
00:02:792 (2) - This beat seems alright currently, but it is still out of sync with the instrument in the background. With it's current time placement, it doesn't have a beat in the song to represent it. The strum of the acoustic instrument sounds on the blue tick that's closer to the 1st note of the combo. huh? It's mapped to the drums and perfectly fine
00:37:371 (1) - The vocals seem to indicate a slider here, so it feels rather weird to play 2 hit circles when the vocals hold on a syllable for half a measure. Instead of the 1 beat being a hit circle, I'd recommend making it a very short slider that goes from the white tick it's already on to the blue tick in between the original two hit circles. It's not mapped to the vocals but to the instrumental like the same pattern before
01:15:897 - In the vocals, there's a slight "yuu" sound here. You could put a transitional combo hit circle here, but since the vocal is really soft at that time, it's not necessarily needed. that would feel ratehr overmapped and unnecessary, also I don't really hear anything here that would warrant a circle, at maximum a sliderend

Insane
00:20:002 (4) - The object's end isn't snapped according to aimod. fixed
01:15:582 (1) - This beat seems rather far from the previous hit circle. Most of your song had a relatively consistent length for their jump segments, but this one for some reason seems to have a greater difference.it's only 1.7x, but I changed it a bit

Overall it's a rather good beatmap set, and rather fun to play. It's well mapped. Sorry I don't know anything about slider velocity multipliers, so I couldn't really help there.

thanks for the mod, this was a m4m if I'm right?

Post your map and the diffs you prefer modded here Lasse's Standard Queue - GD/M4M/NM so I know what to mod

Avishay

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Avishay 2015-08-22T03:15:36+00:00

Boruma wrote:
A's Pace
Sorry. I'm not very good when it comes to these really fast difficulties.
00:18:740 (2-5) - It might be better to lessen the distance between the 2 hit circle and the streamed slider. It creates a unity effect with consistent repeating segments. I don't feel like it'll have such an effect, the current pattern is completely fine in all terms so I'l stay with it.
00:19:371 (6-8) - Just a suggestion based on the previous jumps, but maybe shorten the distance a bit on this one as well? I think that the current pattern is fine, no real reason to lower the spcaings.
00:34:055 (2) - This might be hard to play if the user doesn't have a more transparent skin. On slider-end circles are really common all around so I don't think that just this one is a problem.
00:48:739 (1) - This hit circle seems like an excessive circle within that triple. Why? I don't think it is.
00:57:266 (4) - Instead of a regular slider, you may want to make it a back-arrow slider to reflect the monotone vocal that's at this part of the song. It will reflect the vocal better indeed, but I want to emphasize the note at 00:57:582 (5) - , and making it pressable is the way of doing it.

I'm not really good at trying to recognize mistakes in this fast of a difficulty, but I hope that helps a bit.

Overall it's a rather good beatmap set, and rather fun to play. It's well mapped. Sorry I don't know anything about slider velocity multipliers, so I couldn't really help there.

Thank you for your time, try to base your suggestions on problems that you can explain, this way I (or the mapper) will be able to understand you better, at the same time try to understand the mapper and his intentions as well.

@Lasse, you didn't update the map from my last post, I didn't make any changes here so please use the diff from my last comment

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-08-22T08:10:53+00:00

Avishay wrote:
@Lasse, you didn't update the map from my last post, I didn't make any changes here so please use the diff from my last comment

idk how that happened, thought I copied it. Should be fine now.
For the next time you update your diff please disable "Widescreen Support" since there is no storyboard and it is disabled for all other diffs

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-08-23T00:34:04+00:00

Reworked hitsounding for Easy to Insane a bit (drums where they should be + some minor fixes)

Also made those "tiny antijumps" in the beginning of the Hard autostacks and reworked the other parts of the intro a bit too.
+ fixed (hopefully) all the spacing issues for Easy to Hard

Starfall9908

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Starfall9908 2015-08-27T15:35:53+00:00

M4M from your modding queue

[Easy]

00:24:740 - (1,1) - unneccessary NCs?
00:31:055 (3,1) - double blanket better

[Normal]

00:06:897 (4) - how about copy and paste the note after it?
00:28:529 (1,2,3) - how about make a triangle of these 3 notes? It would be more fun to play
00:39:266 (3,1) - blanket better?
01:11:792 (2,3) - ^
01:16:529 (2) - X: 276 Y: 228

[Hard]

00:01:529 (1,2) - Blanket
00:02:161 (3,1,2) - ^
00:04:055 (1,2,3,1,2) - ^
00:04:371 (2,1,2) - Stack
00:09:582 (4,5,6) - blanket
00:30:582 (5,6) - ^
00:43:687 (1,2,3) - ^

This was all I could find. Good luck with ranking ^u^

FCL

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FCL 2015-08-27T16:31:33+00:00

M4M from your queue

[Easy]

00:09:582 (3) - a slight discrepancy in the DS
00:17:161 (7,1) - hm, blanket?
00:24:740 (1) - not see the point in NC, suggest remove
00:56:318 (1,2,3,4) - suggest to make these patterns in the form of a square
01:20:318 (3) - move on 128;272 for better flow

[Normal]

00:09:582 (2,3) - make them parallel
00:40:529 (3,1) - blanket would be good
00:43:371 (3) - move on 384;252 for stack 00:43:687 (1) -
01:00:740 (2,1) - move 01:01:370 (1) - down a bit for best possible flow

[Hard]

00:38:634 (1,2) - stack
01:20:950 (5,1) - better to avoid such overlap

[Light Insane]

01:12:108 (3,5) - stack
01:23:634 (5,2) - ^

[Insane]

00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - move on 260;192 for better blanket

[A's Pace]

00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think it's a bit difficult to play
01:15:740 (4) - may be better to abandon the slider? Here it is easy to lose combo

Good luck!

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-08-27T16:32:06+00:00

nadapan wrote:
M4M from your modding queue

[Easy]
00:24:740 - (1,1) - unneccessary NCs?
00:31:055 (3,1) - double blanket better
[Normal]
00:06:897 (4) - how about copy and paste the note after it?
00:28:529 (1,2,3) - how about make a triangle of these 3 notes? It would be more fun to play
00:39:266 (3,1) - blanket better?
01:11:792 (2,3) - ^
01:16:529 (2) - X: 276 Y: 228 used 229 instead of 228, makes ds perfect
[Hard]
00:01:529 (1,2) - Blanket
00:02:161 (3,1,2) - ^
00:04:055 (1,2,3,1,2) - ^
00:04:371 (2,1,2) - Stack
00:09:582 (4,5,6) - blanket
00:30:582 (5,6) - ^ remapped that part a bit
00:43:687 (1,2,3) - ^

This was all I could find. Good luck with ranking ^u^

no reply => fixed
thanks :')

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-08-27T16:54:33+00:00

FCL wrote:
M4M from your queue

[Easy]
00:09:582 (3) - a slight discrepancy in the DS huh? It's 0.7x +/- 0.05 cause of tiny grid snap
00:17:161 (7,1) - hm, blanket? changed a little bit, but I don't want to make 7/1 completely identical
00:24:740 (1) - not see the point in NC, suggest remove
00:56:318 (1,2,3,4) - suggest to make these patterns in the form of a square I think it's fine this way, don't need to have geometrical patterns all the time, especially with 1/1 distance
01:20:318 (3) - move on 128;272 for better flowtalking about geometry, I made a triangle here

[Normal]
00:09:582 (2,3) - make them parallel
00:40:529 (3,1) - blanket would be good
00:43:371 (3) - move on 384;252 for stack 00:43:687 (1) -
01:00:740 (2,1) - move 01:01:370 (1) - down a bit for best possible flow

[Hard]
00:38:634 (1,2) - stack dunno if you mean with 00:38:950 (2) - => would be weird to play/read
or with 00:40:371 (2) - which hseems rather pointless
01:20:950 (5,1) - better to avoid such overlap It blankets the start of 5 and the overlap is not visible for long, only other option while keeping the ds would be making it straight which would be worse to read and flow badly

[Light Insane]
01:12:108 (3,5) - stack might look better in the editor but if you look how many beats those aare apart it makes no difference while playing and would be completely pointless
01:23:634 (5,2) - ^ done here cuase time distance is lower

[Insane]
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - move on 260;192 for better blanket

Good luck!

thanks for the mod
no comment = applied suggestion

Avishay

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Avishay 2015-08-27T18:34:58+00:00

FCL wrote:
M4M from your queue

[A's Pace]
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think it's a bit difficult to play I disagree, it plays just fine, you can play it like a regular stream with this CS.
01:15:740 (4) - may be better to abandon the slider? Here it is easy to lose combo I honestly don't think it is a problem, this slider is just fine..

Good luck!

Thank you eitherway,

I made some slight hitsound changes the removed the widescreen support.

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Bara-

11,978 posts

Joined April 2013

Bara- 2015-08-28T15:44:36+00:00

[General]
All clear

[Easy]

00:28:529 (1,3) - Why not stack them?
00:51:266 (5) - NC, the combo goes on for quite a long time

[Normal]

00:04:529 - It feels really weird you skip this beat with the slider. Even though there is no beat, the vocals here are quite strong
00:07:055 - ^^
00:20:950 (1,2) - It would be better if they'd have the same shape (copy paste (1), then ctrl HJ and move to proper place)
00:49:055 (2,3,1) - These sliders all play weird, as they start on a weak beat and end on a strong one

[Hard]

00:11:476 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing makes this quite awkward
00:16:529 (2,1) - Antijump feels out of place
00:43:371 (1) - This slider feels really out of place and awkward due to the shape. A regular slider plays better

[L. Insane]

00:27:266 (1,2,3,4,5) - Pattern is too cluttered, it's really hard to read
01:11:476 (1,2,3,4) - The should be all the same shape. So copy paste (1) then Ctrl > and move it etc.
01:27:740 (3) - You're sinecing the whole slider which is unrankable. Both the Slidertick and sliderbody are muted to an inaudible extent making it unrankable

[Insane]
I can't mod it. It seems to random and really unpolished. TBH, This diff needs a lot of work

[A's Pace]
This diff is great
Well done
I love it
00:38:318 (6,7,8) - Are you sure about 1/3?
Same comment for the latest slider

Good luck!

Lasse

osu! Alumni

3,644 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-08-28T16:26:09+00:00

Baraatje123 wrote:

[General]
All clear

[Easy]
00:28:529 (1,3) - Why not stack them? they are 8 beats apart and I fell the part after that flows betetr the way it is
00:51:266 (5) - NC, the combo goes on for quite a long time k
[Normal]
00:04:529 - It feels really weird you skip this beat with the slider. Even though there is no beat, the vocals here are quite strong
00:07:055 - ^^
I think those drawn out sliders make for a decent buildup up to 00:08:950 (2) -
00:20:950 (1,2) - It would be better if they'd have the same shape (copy paste (1), then ctrl HJ and move to proper place) done
00:49:055 (2,3,1) - These sliders all play weird, as they start on a weak beat and end on a strong one remapped a bit
[Hard]
00:11:476 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing makes this quite awkward made this 1.0x like the part before
00:16:529 (2,1) - Antijump feels out of place made 1.0x
00:43:371 (1) - This slider feels really out of place and awkward due to the shape. A regular slider plays better changed shape and removed nc
[L. Insane]
00:27:266 (1,2,3,4,5) - Pattern is too cluttered, it's really hard to read increased spacing a bit
01:11:476 (1,2,3,4) - The should be all the same shape. So copy paste (1) then Ctrl > and move it etc. changed that part to srtraight sliders, plays better anyways
01:27:740 (3) - You're sinecing the whole slider which is unrankable. Both the Slidertick and sliderbody are muted to an inaudible extent making it unrankable fixed
[Insane]
I can't mod it. It seems to random and really unpolished. TBH, This diff needs a lot of work
fixed the unrankable audio of the last slider here too, will do some more work on that diff soon

[A's Pace]
This diff is great
Well done
I love it
00:38:318 (6,7,8) - Are you sure about 1/3?
Same comment for the latest slider

Good luck!

thanks for the mod

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-08-28T20:20:34+00:00

Baraatje123 wrote:

[A's Pace]
This diff is great
Well done
I love it
00:38:318 (6,7,8) - Are you sure about 1/3?
Same comment for the latest slider

Good luck!

Thanks, and yes I am sure about both of those for now. The 1/3 are going nicely in the in-between "refreshing" state, and I think the slider is just fine.

P.S Your name reminds me something, but I can't recall what and why

Sky Trias

Sky Trias 2015-08-28T21:49:26+00:00

M4M Queue

[General]

Better set Preview Point
Audio Lead-In : Hard , Insane , Light Insane : +471 ms.

[Hard]
- Why make a simple slider with many point ? example 00:23:476 (1,3,1)
1. 00:04:371 (2,1,2) - stack well
2. 00:14:003 (3,4,5) - better make same placement pattern like 00:12:266 (1,2,3) -
  00:14:003 (3) - 480|116
  00:14:318 (5) - 328|144
3. 00:14:634 (1) - make this slide same like 00:13:371 (1) - for better.
4. 00:14:634 (1,2) - same spacing like 00:13:371 (1,2) - maybe move 00:14:950 (2) - 132|168 or better placement like that
5. 00:16:529 (2) - Ctrl+G and move to 304|128 for better
6. 00:17:634 - better add a not here
7. 00:23:476 (1) - move this to 384|96 for consistency blanket like 00:23:950 (2,3,4,1)
8. 00:27:740 (4) - move 1 grid (tiny) right - 172|88 . why? because the spacing on 00:27:740 (4,5) - is changing.
9. 00:32:476 (5) - NC here
10. 01:07:687 (3,4) - change to slider better
11. 01:17:003 (3,1) - sounds weird over here if you make to slider
12. For placement it's okay , but need for improvement , Nice Mapset
[Light Insane]
1. 00:12:108 (1) - spinner stop on 00:13:055 - better
2. 00:23:397 (9) - remove
3. 00:27:266 (1,2,3,4,5) - ups .. very weird.. don't like this.. really
4. 00:31:055 (1,2,3) - why need change spacing this? better make same spacing like 00:30:740 (4,1)
5. 00:31:687 (3,1) - stack
6. 00:35:161 (3) - 336|104 better
7. 00:48:424 (5) - no need 2 repeated I think, better make that into 1 repeat it's okay
8. 00:50:318 (2) - 180|120 better
9. 01:11:476 (1) - really break that flow , better move to 292|296 or better placement like that
10. 01:26:161 (4,1) - better stack
[Insane]
1. 00:06:262 - Unsnapped inherit green , snap to 00:06:266
2. 00:04:371 (3,5) - stack
3. 00:10:845 (1,2,1,2,1) - that spacing.. okay then..
4. 00:21:581 (3) - 432|144 (nazi)
5. 00:31:055 (1) - why not put on 328|276 ?
6. 00:39:108 (4) - 200|80 (nazi)
7. 00:57:582 (3,4) - better keep consistency spacing to 00:56:318 (1,2)
8. 01:00:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - this stream , move to 200|248 better
9. 01:12:582 (8,1) - stack
10. 01:17:003 (4,5) - ups the spacing changing
11. 01:15:266 - 01:21:582 - NC spam , please use 1-1 or 1-2 big tick for New Combo
12. 01:21:108 (1,2,3) - better make same stream like 01:22:371 (5,6,7) - and 01:23:634 (5,6,7) - for consistency

Hope help a bit , Good Luck!

Hendrix89

40 posts

Joined February 2013

Hendrix89 2015-08-28T22:40:48+00:00

Hi there from mod queue,

Easy:

01:00:108 (3) - extend slider by a note

Normal:

00:02:634 (1,2) - These sliders feel really weird and out of sync with the song, consider changing them
00:05:161 (1,2) - ^

Hard:

00:21:424 - add a not at the end of the slider
00:22:055 - ^
00:50:476 - add note
00:51:108 - add note

Light Insane:

00:33:740 (2,3) - stack
00:34:371 (2,3) - ^

Insane:

00:03:108 (1,2) - ctrl G, feels funner
00:24:897 (2,3) - ^
00:25:529 (6,7) - ^
00:39:266 (1,3) - stack under the start of the slider
01:00:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - increase the spacing to 1.6x
01:09:266 (2) - turn this note into a 1/2 note slider

A's Pace:

00:07:213 (5,7) - stack
00:08:476 (6,8) - stack
00:22:924 (2,3) - make the spacing between these 1.05x, it would be very hard with hard rock
00:23:082 (4,5) - ^
00:23:240 (6,7) - ^
00:38:318 (6,7,8) - is there a reason for the 1/3 stream here? I would delete note 7 and 8 and add a note at 00:38:476
00:48:108 (5,6,7,8) - this part seems extremely hard for no reason, why not just make it a stream by adding a note at 00:48:266
01:00:739 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - really great stream, pretty hard but very fun

Your map is really well done so there wasn't too much I could find. Hopefully it was still helpful.
Good luck, you should have no problems getting it ranked

Lasse

osu! Alumni

3,644 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-08-28T23:35:34+00:00

Sky Trias wrote:
M4M Queue

[General]
Better set Preview Point huh, there is one at the start of the lead into the chorus
Audio Lead-In : Hard , Insane , Light Insane : +471 ms. 0 seems fine

[Hard]

Why make a simple slider with many point ? example 00:23:476 (1,3,1)
00:04:371 (2,1,2) - stack well this is where autostacking puts it
00:14:003 (3,4,5) - better make same placement pattern like 00:12:266 (1,2,3) - fine the way it is
00:14:003 (3) - 480|116
00:14:318 (5) - 328|144
00:14:634 (1) - make this slide same like 00:13:371 (1) - for better. changed a bit
00:14:634 (1,2) - same spacing like 00:13:371 (1,2) - maybe move 00:14:950 (2) - 132|168 or better placement like that [color=#8040FF? it's all 1.0x[/color]
00:16:529 (2) - Ctrl+G and move to 304|128 for better
00:17:634 - better add a not here I think it plays nicely this way and emphasized this "uhh~" better
00:23:476 (1) - move this to 384|96 for consistency blanket like 00:23:950 (2,3,4,1) ruins thw whole pattern afterwards
00:27:740 (4) - move 1 grid (tiny) right - 172|88 . why? because the spacing on 00:27:740 (4,5) - is changing.
00:32:476 (5) - NC here
01:07:687 (3,4) - change to slider better nah, that's boring and won't change a whole lot, still fits vocals
01:17:003 (3,1) - sounds weird over here if you make to slider remapped that part a bit, cause the red-tick slliders weren't fitting
For placement it's okay , but need for improvement , Nice Mapset
[Light Insane]
00:12:108 (1) - spinner stop on 00:13:055 - better fits well with the backgound "noise" the way it is
00:23:397 (9) - remove it plays way better this way
00:27:266 (1,2,3,4,5) - ups .. very weird.. don't like this.. really what's weirtd about that, 00:26:634 (4,5,1) - makes a triangle which flows into a star at 00:27:266 (1,2,3,4,5) - fits vocals and drums well this way imo
00:31:055 (1,2,3) - why need change spacing this? better make same spacing like 00:30:740 (4,1) changed a bit, spacing in combos is constistent now and it changes from 1.5x -> 1.4x between them
00:31:687 (3,1) - stack
00:35:161 (3) - 336|104 better
00:48:424 (5) - no need 2 repeated I think, better make that into 1 repeat it's okay
00:50:318 (2) - 180|120 better it's fine as it is right now
01:11:476 (1) - really break that flow , better move to 292|296 or better placement like that remapped a bit
01:26:161 (4,1) - better stack
[Insane]
00:04:371 (3,5) - stack this does nothing but breaking blankets and ds
00:10:845 (1,2,1,2,1) - that spacing.. okay then.. emphasizes the strong vocal+drum buildup nicely
00:21:581 (3) - 432|144 (nazi)
00:31:055 (1) - why not put on 328|276 ? flows nicely and looks nice as is
00:39:108 (4) - 200|80 (nazi)
00:57:582 (3,4) - better keep consistency spacing to 00:56:318 (1,2)
01:00:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - this stream , move to 200|248 better changed that part a bit
01:12:582 (8,1) - stack
01:17:003 (4,5) - ups the spacing changing still easily readable and makes the patterns afterwards way better
01:15:266 - 01:21:582 - NC spam , please use 1-1 or 1-2 big tick for New Combo makes it much better to read and still goes with the vocals
01:21:108 (1,2,3) - better make same stream like 01:22:371 (5,6,7) - and 01:23:634 (5,6,7) - for consistency
they don't need to be. first one leads into chorus while second one is the chorus, there should be a difference
Hope help a bit , Good Luck!

no reply = fixed
thanks

Lasse

osu! Alumni

3,644 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-08-28T23:52:44+00:00

Hendrix89 wrote:
Hi there from mod queue,

Easy:

01:00:108 (3) - extend slider by a note the next set of vocals iwould start there which would make it weird

Normal:

00:02:634 (1,2) - These sliders feel really weird and out of sync with the song, consider changing them
00:05:161 (1,2) - ^
fit the instrumental just fine

Hard:

00:21:424 - add a not at the end of the slider
00:22:055 - ^
00:50:476 - add note
00:51:108 - add note
there is nothing to justify notes at those places

Light Insane:

00:33:740 (2,3) - stack
00:34:371 (2,3) - ^
sorry, but that doesn't make any sense

Insane:

00:03:108 (1,2) - ctrl G, feels funner
ruins ds + worse flow
00:24:897 (2,3) - ^
00:25:529 (6,7) - ^
the way it is right now fits the vocals way better and flows nicely http://lasse.s-ul.eu/96nMm4HJ
00:39:266 (1,3) - stack under the start of the slider would play worse + much harder to read
01:00:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - increase the spacing to 1.6x that would be a ridiculous diffspike and completely unjustified
01:09:266 (2) - turn this note into a 1/2 note slider wouldn't really fit, also the 2 already continues the "my" from 1, doesn't need to be held any longer

A's Pace:

00:07:213 (5,7) - stack
00:08:476 (6,8) - stack
00:22:924 (2,3) - make the spacing between these 1.05x, it would be very hard with hard rock
00:23:082 (4,5) - ^
00:23:240 (6,7) - ^
00:38:318 (6,7,8) - is there a reason for the 1/3 stream here? I would delete note 7 and 8 and add a note at 00:38:476
00:48:108 (5,6,7,8) - this part seems extremely hard for no reason, why not just make it a stream by adding a note at 00:48:266
01:00:739 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - really great stream, pretty hard but very fun

Your map is really well done so there wasn't too much I could find. Hopefully it was still helpful.
Good luck, you should have no problems getting it ranked

thanks for your input

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-08-29T08:18:58+00:00

Hendrix89 wrote:
Hi there from mod queue,

A's Pace:

00:07:213 (5,7) - stack Why?
00:08:476 (6,8) - stack Why?
00:22:924 (2,3) - make the spacing between these 1.05x, it would be very hard with hard rock I am not mapping for Hard Rock, but for the map itself, good players will play it just fine with Hard Rock too.
00:23:082 (4,5) - ^ ^
00:23:240 (6,7) - ^ ^
00:38:318 (6,7,8) - is there a reason for the 1/3 stream here? I would delete note 7 and 8 and add a note at 00:38:476 I just feel that it is right, look at my previous responses.
00:48:108 (5,6,7,8) - this part seems extremely hard for no reason, why not just make it a stream by adding a note at 00:48:266 That's not extremely hard? I am following the music.
01:00:739 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - really great stream, pretty hard but very fun Thanks.

Good luck, you should have no problems getting it ranked

Erm, thank you for your time

Bara-

11,978 posts

Joined April 2013

Bara- 2015-08-30T10:06:31+00:00

Avishay wrote:
P.S Your name reminds me something, but I can't recall what and why

You're making me curious
Perhaps Remember Me (with your deleted diff

)?

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-08-30T12:51:29+00:00

Baraatje123 wrote:
Avishay wrote:
P.S Your name reminds me something, but I can't recall what and why
You're making me curious
Perhaps Remember Me (with your deleted diff )?

Holy fuck, I just remembered, I'm soooo sorry for the inconvenience back then, but believe me, my diff was probably complete shit.

Bara-

11,978 posts

Joined April 2013

Bara- 2015-08-30T12:53:55+00:00

LOOOOOOL
It's already circled
Still pending after 2 years, still not ranked ;w;

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-08-30T16:26:57+00:00

Baraatje123 wrote:
LOOOOOOL
It's already circled
Still pending after 2 years, still not ranked ;w;

Hah, don't make start talking about Rolling star ;_;

Also, I've modified the 1/3 part (less cancer) and removed some hitsound problems, I might modify the doubles part half way through the map, not sure.

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 56318
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.6
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.15
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
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TitleUnicode:マイペースでいきましょう
Artist:Nanamori-chu * Goraku-bu
ArtistUnicode:七森中☆ごらく部
Creator:Lasse
Version:A's Pace
Source:ゆるゆり
Tags:tv size Yuru Yuri Mikami Shiori Ootsubo Yuka Tsuda Minami Ookubo Rumi Avishay
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CircleSize:4
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Lasse

osu! Alumni

3,644 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-08-31T10:31:56+00:00

Added the GD changes
also worked a bit on the Insane, especially the first 30 seconds, should be much better now

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-08-31T11:13:51+00:00

Sorry for the frequent posts lol, I've went thorugh all of the hitsounds and changed those that I weren't satisfied with, along with a pattern or two.

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Kbuns

91 posts

Joined July 2014

Kbuns 2015-09-02T01:13:31+00:00

Hi there, m4m from your queue: p/4473426#p4473426

Easy

00:02:634 (1,2) - These slider could do a better job representing the music. Additionally, they don't look very good :'( maybe consider this: http://puu.sh/jWR61/67ae4eb318.jpg
00:07:687 (1) - Consider extending this slider. To end here: 00:08:318 - it makes the rhythm build up in the next section feel much more prominent.
00:17:161 (7,1) - Improve blanket: http://puu.sh/jWRgK/0bbaea5482.jpg
00:19:371 (2) - Move this circle slightly to the left. This makes the pattern slightly more interesting because it's not just a straight line.
00:28:529 (1,2) - Fix blanket: http://puu.sh/jWRkM/0713918857.jpg
00:37:371 (3) - Consider this form: http://puu.sh/jWRpn/aec6f0f40d.jpg
00:58:845 (1) - Curve so that it flows better: http://puu.sh/jWRvG/0180ab4659.jpg
01:00:108 (3,1) - This blanket needs works. Very noticeable.
01:03:897 (4) - Improve this slider's form
01:03:897 (4,1) - Recommend blanketing this.
01:23:161 (3) - Fix slider form. Looks really bad.
01:21:897 (2) - ^
Diff needs some polishing.

Normal

00:04:055 (3,4) - I honestly can't tell what rhythm you're following in the music. Needs revision
00:06:582 (3,4) - ^
00:15:897 (1,2) - Fix blanket (Slider end of (1) and curve of (2)
00:25:371 (6) - Copy 00:24:108 (3) - ctrl+h, ctrl+j, ctrl+shft+r (-15) and reposition for a better blanket.
00:40:529 (3,1) - Blanket http://puu.sh/jWS15/7c824eeefe.jpg
00:52:529 (4) - Remove a slider bone. Looks bad b/c it's uneven.
01:05:161 (3) - Slider looks bad. Consider removing the curve.
01:24:108 (1,2) - Blanket?

Hard

00:01:845 (2,1,2) - Slight overlap. Recommend spacing out (1,2)
00:04:371 (2,1,2) - ^
00:12:266 (1,2,3,1) - Transition feels empty. Consider adding a circle here: 00:13:213 -
00:23:161 (4,1) - This blanket is a lot tighter than the other blankets in the map and it looks out of place because of this.
00:27:266 - Needs clickable object here
00:31:687 (3,1) - I was under the impression that sliders like this were unrankable because they change the speed of the slider with slider bones. I might be wrong, you should double check
00:46:371 (2,3) - Blanket
01:15:266 (1,2,3,4) - This is my only issue in the kiai time. I think that you should space these more. I don't understand why this pattern would have a higher DS outside of kiai time like you did here: 01:00:108 (1,2,3,4) -
01:24:108 (1) - Missed flow
Best diff so far.

Light Insane

00:03:740 (1) - Should not be a slider. Well defined rest on this beat: 00:03:897 -
00:05:161 (1,3) - Disagree with these reverse arrows. Consider removal
00:11:476 (3,4,5,6) - Absolutely space this out. It doesn't make sense for the build-up to have a higher DS (1.5) than the part that should be emphasized. (1.2)
00:17:161 (1) - Really good slider here, gj
00:17:792 (1) - This one, not so much, haha. Maybe try this? http://puu.sh/jWSWu/6a3a50ab98.jpg Definitely remove the reverse arrow on this slider though.
00:23:476 (1) - If you can, try to make this slider follow the curve of the stream better.
00:24:740 (1) - Clean up this slider's form
00:28:213 (1) - ^
00:31:687 (3,1) - Nice slider, but you should space out (1) to make it more interesting to play.
00:46:213 (1) - This slider is really out of place. Either give it a proper wave or make it straight. Looks really bad in this pattern.
01:13:371 (5,6) - Make parallel or curve (6)
01:27:740 (3) - Fix blanket
01:27:740 - Other diffs end here - Keep it consistent please.
Pretty good diff.

Lasse

osu! Alumni

3,644 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-09-02T11:47:11+00:00

Kbuns wrote:
Hi there, m4m from your queue: p/4473426#p4473426

Easy
00:02:634 (1,2) - These slider could do a better job representing the music. Additionally, they don't look very good :'( maybe consider this: http://puu.sh/jWR61/67ae4eb318.jpg they look just fine
00:07:687 (1) - Consider extending this slider. To end here: 00:08:318 - it makes the rhythm build up in the next section feel much more prominent. fits the vocals better as is
00:17:161 (7,1) - Improve blanket: http://puu.sh/jWRgK/0bbaea5482.jpg 1 blankets the end of 7 as good as possible. TO have both parts blanketed they would have to look the same and then I'd use the same slider 3 times in a row in 2 different combos, no thanks
00:19:371 (2) - Move this circle slightly to the left. This makes the pattern slightly more interesting because it's not just a straight line. straight line looks better and plays fine here
00:28:529 (1,2) - Fix blanket: http://puu.sh/jWRkM/0713918857.jpg huh? http://i.imgur.com/QrkAqhh.jpg it's fine that way
00:37:371 (3) - Consider this form: http://puu.sh/jWRpn/aec6f0f40d.jpg way worse flow as it doesn't lead to the next note and puts your hand in a sligh downwards motion eve nthough the next not is above
00:58:845 (1) - Curve so that it flows better: http://puu.sh/jWRvG/0180ab4659.jpg k
01:00:108 (3,1) - This blanket needs works. Very noticeable. very noticeable = two pixels on a sldier that disappears way before you have to hit the blanketed one? Hard to make it any better without breaking ds or making the slideritself worse
01:03:897 (4) - Improve this slider's form it flows nicely the way it is
01:03:897 (4,1) - Recommend blanketing this. nah
01:23:161 (3) - Fix slider form. Looks really bad. done
01:21:897 (2) - ^done
Diff needs some polishing.

Normal
00:04:055 (3,4) - I honestly can't tell what rhythm you're following in the music. Needs revision
00:06:582 (3,4) - ^
Since so many modders seem to dislike the way it is now (followed some barely audible background noise I changed those parts and remapped the rest accordingly up until the small "break"
00:15:897 (1,2) - Fix blanket (Slider end of (1) and curve of (2) seems fine, distance bat the left edge = distance at right edge, it's just not the same distance for the whole circle
00:25:371 (6) - Copy 00:24:108 (3) - ctrl+h, ctrl+j, ctrl+shft+r (-15) and reposition for a better blanket. blanket is fine
00:40:529 (3,1) - Blanket http://puu.sh/jWS15/7c824eeefe.jpg changed a bit
00:52:529 (4) - Remove a slider bone. Looks bad b/c it's uneven. fixed
01:05:161 (3) - Slider looks bad. Consider removing the curve. looks and flows better this way
01:24:108 (1,2) - Blanket? fixed

Hard
00:01:845 (2,1,2) - Slight overlap. Recommend spacing out (1,2)
00:04:371 (2,1,2) - ^
those are not visible during gameplay and the blankets are better this way

00:12:266 (1,2,3,1) - Transition feels empty. Consider adding a circle here: 00:13:213 - that would mean either extending the prev. slider, which would mess the mapping to vocals up and look bad, or adding circle which would feel really overmapped
00:23:161 (4,1) - This blanket is a lot tighter than the other blankets in the map and it looks out of place because of this. looks fine without messing with the shape or the ds to keep the blanket
00:27:266 - Needs clickable object here changed that part a little
00:31:687 (3,1) - I was under the impression that sliders like this were unrankable because they change the speed of the slider with slider bones. I might be wrong, you should double check the change is like a few percent at max and easily visible. Also I already had two BN modding this diff with excatly the same slider and not one mentioned it, so it should be fine. Also #modhelp seems to agree
00:46:371 (2,3) - Blanket fixed
01:15:266 (1,2,3,4) - This is my only issue in the kiai time. I think that you should space these more. I don't understand why this pattern would have a higher DS outside of kiai time like you did here: 01:00:108 (1,2,3,4) - made ds 1.0x
01:24:108 (1) - Missed flow fixed
Best diff so far.

Light Insane
00:03:740 (1) - Should not be a slider. Well defined rest on this beat: 00:03:897 - ? fits the vocal "yay" perfectly
00:05:161 (1,3) - Disagree with these reverse arrows. Consider removal plays nicely and doesn't feel overmapped or anything
00:11:476 (3,4,5,6) - Absolutely space this out. It doesn't make sense for the build-up to have a higher DS (1.5) than the part that should be emphasized. (1.2) it does. having the spacing lower takes away some of the aiming and puts more focus on the tapping which is exactly what I want here
00:17:161 (1) - Really good slider here, gj
00:17:792 (1) - This one, not so much, haha. Maybe try this? http://puu.sh/jWSWu/6a3a50ab98.jpg Definitely remove the reverse arrow on this slider though.
applied something similar
00:23:476 (1) - If you can, try to make this slider follow the curve of the stream better. flows just fine
00:24:740 (1) - Clean up this slider's form done
00:28:213 (1) - ^ done

00:31:687 (3,1) - Nice slider, but you should space out (1) to make it more interesting to play. plays fine this way
00:46:213 (1) - This slider is really out of place. Either give it a proper wave or make it straight. Looks really bad in this pattern. remapped that part a little
01:13:371 (5,6) - Make parallel or curve (6) done
01:27:740 (3) - Fix blanket done
01:27:740 - Other diffs end here - Keep it consistent please.
Pretty good diff.

SPOILER

well whatever

Kbuns

91 posts

Joined July 2014

Kbuns 2015-09-02T12:13:55+00:00

SPOILER

well whatever

Should have said something in game then. Why would I read the rules of your queue when the request was made in game?
[/quote]

melon boy

278 posts

Joined August 2013

melon boy 2015-09-03T15:14:33+00:00

Hello! M4M from your modding queue!

A's Pace

00:15:897 (1,2,3,4) - These sliders look pretty bland with the overlaps and such and don't play too well either. I'd suggest curving them a bit more and moving them further apart, kind of like this:
image
Furthermore, I'd suggest completely removing the repeat sliders at 00:17:161 if you have any intention of getting this ranked, since it's severely overmapped. Even if it were to get qualified, QAT would definitely have something to say about it. I'd suggest extending 00:16:845 (4) and placing a normal hit circle at 00:17:318, preferably under (4)'s end. As for the pattern, here's a suggestion, building on the previously mentioned:
image
00:21:897 (4) - The pattern is good enough here, just do the same as before, removing the repeat sliders and extending (4).
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Umm... Okay. This may or may not also be suicide. But if you insist on keeping it, I'll just wish you good luck.
00:37:529 (3,5) - Same here as above. You might be able to get about the same effect with a couple of 1/1 sliders.[
00:39:897 (1) - This hit sound is extremely jarring. Both because it's a snare placed on a downbeat, and also because it's too damn loud compared to in comparison to the music and the rest of the hitsounds. Remove or change it.
00:41:161 (1,1,1,1) - ^
00:55:055 (1,3,5,7) - You can keep the doubles, but they are definitely too close to each other. Increase the spacing.
00:57:582 (5,7) - Why not keep the same hit sound as 00:56:318 (1,3) ?
01:01:371 - Get a stronger soft-hitfinish for the chorus.
01:11:161 (1) - I'd suggest that you don't start a downbeat with a slider end.
That's all I'll say. Overall interesting map with nice jump and slider patterns, but it definitely still needs some work on the flow and aesthetics. Good luck.

Insane

00:08:003 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This part feels a bit too linear and doesn't flow well. Try going with something a bit more back and forth.
00:11:950 (4,1) - I'm not a big fan of these tiny overlaps. Either you make a distinct overlap, or you get some space between the two objects.
00:24:108 (5,6) - Watch out for the curves. If your basic small sliders get too curvy they'll look really bad. Like these. Straighten them out, and make sure they have the same curve, since they are right after each other. Same for your other sliders, such as 00:26:003 (1).
00:28:213 (1) - However this one is okay, since it's a special unique slider.
00:34:529 (3,3,3) - Same with these, however I'm not a fan of this pattern, because of the way the sliders overlap. You might want to reposition them.
00:52:529 (3) - Ctrl + G for better flow.
01:01:371 - Same as with A's Pace: A stronger soft-hitfinish would really make this section feel a lot better.
01:10:213 (1,2) - Ctrl + G here as 01:10:529 (3,4) here. It makes the change in instrument a lot more apparent. Additionally, it might be nice to move 01:10:213 (1,2,3,4) down a bit as well for better emphasis.
01:12:740 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Your spacing suddenly drops a lot without any change in the music. Consider completely changing the pattern here.
Otherwise a really solid map with nice hit sounds. Good luck.

That is all I'll do. I'm not too good at modding easier difficulties, but if you don't feel like it's enough for you to mod the entirety of my map, then feel free to send me a message, and I might be able to say something about another difficulty or two. Anyhow, Best of luck with the map!

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-09-03T16:20:54+00:00

Fuccho wrote:
Insane
00:08:003 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This part feels a bit too linear and doesn't flow well. Try going with something a bit more back and forth. remapped it a little, kept the 1.8-1.2 alternating snap cause it fits really nice, should flow much better now
00:11:950 (4,1) - I'm not a big fan of these tiny overlaps. Either you make a distinct overlap, or you get some space between the two objects. increased ds on the sldiers a little to get rid of that
00:24:108 (5,6) - Watch out for the curves. If your basic small sliders get too curvy they'll look really bad. Like these. Straighten them out, and make sure they have the same curve, since they are right after each other. I changed that part anyways cause the flow seemed kinda bad. Also made them less curved while at it

Same for your other sliders, such as 00:26:003 (1). this one is fine
00:28:213 (1) - However this one is okay, since it's a special unique slider.
00:34:529 (3,3,3) - Same with these, however I'm not a fan of this pattern, because of the way the sliders overlap. You might want to reposition them. that's the whole point of the pattern, is is rotating while the slliders are getting more curved. And the only way to see thsoe overlaps would be by playing EZ
00:52:529 (3) - Ctrl + G for better flow. it flows fine? and this way the transition to the next notes is better (and it looks better) CHanged shape a bit though
01:01:371 - Same as with A's Pace: A stronger soft-hitfinish would really make this section feel a lot better.
01:10:213 (1,2) - Ctrl + G here as 01:10:529 (3,4) here. It makes the change in instrument a lot more apparent.
Additionally, it might be nice to move 01:10:213 (1,2,3,4) down a bit as well for better emphasis.
hitsound + nc are fine for that, also that would make the spacing really weird
01:12:740 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Your spacing suddenly drops a lot without any change in the music. Consider completely changing the pattern here.might look into that

Otherwise a really solid map with nice hit sounds. Good luck.
That is all I'll do. I'm not too good at modding easier difficulties, but if you don't feel like it's enough for you to mod the entirety of my map, then feel free to send me a message, and I might be able to say something about another difficulty or two. Anyhow, Best of luck with the map!

thanks

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Lasse

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Lasse 2015-09-03T17:22:03+00:00

Fuccho wrote:
[*]01:12:740 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Your spacing suddenly drops a lot without any change in the music. Consider completely changing the pattern here.

I reworked the first part so it fits much better and kept 01:14:003 (1) - as is (moved a bit) to serve as a little "break" after this kinda hard new jump sequence, also the lowly spaced 1/2 sliders there fit really well with the drawn out vocals

Tarrasky

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Tarrasky 2015-09-03T17:37:13+00:00

Insane mod ´º`

about NC

00:03:108 (1) - I prefer the newcombo in 00:03:266 (2) - if you listen to music, you notice the sound change is there
00:05:634 (1,2) - /\
00:11:161 (1) - maybe nc is unnecessary
00:30:424 (1) - /\
00:39:266 (1) - /\
00:41:792 (1) - /\ 00:42:740 (1) - /\ 00:45:582 (1) - /\ 00:46:845 (1) - /\ and a lot

00:07:055 (4,5) - why this sliders is so "wub"? you can make normal sliders like 00:02:003 (4,5) - 00:04:529 (4,5) -, I see no reason to be this way
00:13:608 (3) -00:14:871 (3) - 00:18:661 (3) - 00:19:924 (3) - ... ) overmap?
00:23:397 - you can add a circle here, and change this from a 1/2 slider 00:23:476 (1) -, same in 00:23:792 (3) - and change this for 1/2 circle jumps 00:24:108 (5,6) -, seems more playable, it makes more sense with the sound and doesn't miss a sound
00:31:687 (3) - maybe 1/1 slider?
00:52:529 (3) - ctrl + g seems better flow
soft-hitfinish.wav It sounds as weak for finish beat

hope i help ^^

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-09-03T18:45:37+00:00

Tarrasky wrote:
Insane mod ´º`

about NC
00:03:108 (1) - I prefer the newcombo in 00:03:266 (2) - if you listen to music, you notice the sound change is there
00:05:634 (1,2) - /\
the nc for those pattern is consistent though and it makes the mway betetr to read and play

00:11:161 (1) - maybe nc is unnecessary removed and changed the pattern a bit
00:30:424 (1) - /\ removed
00:39:266 (1) - /\ removed
00:41:792 (1) - /\ removed
00:42:740 (1) - /\removed
00:45:582 (1) - /\ 00:46:845 (1) - /\ and a lot
also did some other nc changes

00:07:055 (4,5) - why this sliders is so "wub"? you can make normal sliders like 00:02:003 (4,5) - 00:04:529 (4,5) -, I see no reason to be this way
I think they're fine here

00:13:608 (3) -00:14:871 (3) - 00:18:661 (3) - 00:19:924 (3) - ... ) overmap? it's not really severe and it would get extremely boring without those cause that musical pattern happen quite a few times, I think it's still intuitive to play.

00:23:397 - you can add a circle here, and change this from a 1/2 slider 00:23:476 (1) -, same in 00:23:792 (3) - and change this for 1/2 circle jumps
00:24:108 (5,6) -, seems more playable, it makes more sense with the sound and doesn't miss a sound
the drumroll ends on 00:23:318 (7) - which seems to get emphasized fine the way it is. I could make 00:23:318 (7) - a kickslider, but then the transition to the jumps would play awful

00:31:687 (3) - maybe 1/1 slider? the repeating slider repeats on a beat of the instrumental and still goes nicely with the vocal, I think it's fine
00:52:529 (3) - ctrl + g seems better flow I changed the part before a little and used ctrl+g on 1 and 2, does the same for the flow of this and kepps the transition to 00:52:845 (1) - better
soft-hitfinish.wav It sounds as weak for finish beat

hope i help ^^ sure

thanks for the mod

Avishay

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Avishay 2015-09-03T20:06:21+00:00

Fuccho wrote:
Hello! M4M from your modding queue!
A's Pace
00:15:897 (1,2,3,4) - These sliders look pretty bland with the overlaps and such and don't play too well either. I'd suggest curving them a bit more and moving them further apart, kind of like this:
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They play just fine imo, and I like the way they slightly overlap now, I don't want to have open spacings with them.
Furthermore, I'd suggest completely removing the repeat sliders at 00:17:161 if you have any intention of getting this ranked, since it's severely overmapped. Even if it were to get qualified, QAT would definitely have something to say about it. I'd suggest extending 00:16:845 (4) and placing a normal hit circle at 00:17:318, preferably under (4)'s end. As for the pattern, here's a suggestion, building on the previously mentioned:
image
I'll have to disagree, this is an Extra difficulty, I like to be creative and this pattern resembles the vocals and their strength just like I wanted, I will keep it.
00:21:897 (4) - The pattern is good enough here, just do the same as before, removing the repeat sliders and extending (4). ^
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Umm... Okay. This may or may not also be suicide. But if you insist on keeping it, I'll just wish you good luck.
00:37:529 (3,5) - Same here as above. You might be able to get about the same effect with a couple of 1/1 sliders. I do not wish using 1/1 sliders here.
00:39:897 (1) - This hit sound is extremely jarring. Both because it's a snare placed on a downbeat, and also because it's too damn loud compared to in comparison to the music and the rest of the hitsounds. Remove or change it. I agree, changed to the regular whistle, I might add custom hitsounds soon, in addition to Lasse's.
00:41:161 (1,1,1,1) - ^ V
00:55:055 (1,3,5,7) - You can keep the doubles, but they are definitely too close to each other. Increase the spacing. They are just fine.. The intention was to slow down the pace a bit with the vocals.
00:57:582 (5,7) - Why not keep the same hit sound as 00:56:318 (1,3) ? Because nothing is mandatory with hitsounding.
01:01:371 - Get a stronger soft-hitfinish for the chorus. I need to find something ehm..
01:11:161 (1) - I'd suggest that you don't start a downbeat with a slider end. I agree, changed.
That's all I'll say. Overall interesting map with nice jump and slider patterns, but it definitely still needs some work on the flow and aesthetics. Good luck.

Try to get more into my head, I might be a bit unorthodox but I think I am allowed to, thank you for the mod.

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Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2015-09-04T01:49:30+00:00

[A's Pace]

00:03:108 (3,4,5) - You don't find all these kick sliders over the top? I think just 00:02:634 (1,2) - are good enough. Making everything kick-sliders will easily come across as mapping for the same of difficulty. You could cut down on some of the kickslider usage in this intro imo.
00:05:634 (3,4,5) - ^
00:07:371 (6,7) - I really dislike stacks that occur between jump patterns. They break momentum because you force the player to stop all motion before basically doing a vertical screen jump. It's uncomfortable to play. Just use a smaller jump so there is still movement.
00:08:634 (7,8) - ^
00:15:897 (1,2) - These are 3/4 sliders, i hope you're aware <___<
00:20:003 (2,3) - This is so irregular compared to your spacing for 00:18:740 (2,3) - 00:19:371 (6,7) - right after the "Hai"
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You are not Hanzer
01:01:054 (5,6) - I guess, if you want to change DS you should change on a white tick, right now the DS increases after 6 which is a blue tick. Having a DS increase begin on a white tick makes it more straightforward.
01:25:055 (4) - Might as well Ctrl+G this because the flow is pretty damn nice when Ctrl+G'ed. I'll overlook the sheer amount of jumps you're forcing lol.
01:25:529 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Im surprised there's no DS increase to match the pitch change.

[Insane]

00:06:262 - wouldn't hurt to snap this green line
00:07:687 (1) - This should really be two circles for the drums.
00:25:845 (8,1) - You sould have a jump here for emphasis onto the downbeat (1). 00:24:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You map a jump to every white tick so you should continue that pattern into the next combo.
00:53:792 (1,2) - These sliders just feel really random. The SV doesn't fit the music because there is a pitch increase onto 00:55:055 (1,2,3,4) - but you use a lower SV and simpler shapes :S.
01:19:213 - There are clear beats on the red ticks too. Suddenly shifting to 1/1 rhythm makes this section feel really empty. if not circles, 1/2 sliders work too.

[Light Insane]

00:07:687 (1) - These should be two circles too, or at least map a larger jump to them for better emphasis. You map the same drum hits to circles later on so its weird to use a slider here.
00:13:371 (1) - Change the combo color to something else. On the Default spinner the blue combo color becomes really difficult to read.
00:40:529 (3,4,5,6,1) - You spam the same star-jump pattern a lot in this diff, Try using other combinations or jump patterns .
01:03:897 (1,2,3,4) - Awkward, same reason as Insane. There are beats on red ticks, even if you don't want to make them clickable and focus on vocals, using 1/2 sliders will benefit this section by not making it feel so empty and different in intensity from the jumps before/after
01:26:476 (5,6) - The song is growing in intensity, why the sliders? if anything you should use the at the beginning and transition to circles as the pitch goes up with intensity.

[Hard]

00:23:476 (1,2,3) - Weird flow here. 1>2 is nice and then you have to make a sharp movement into 3.
00:24:582 (4,1) - ^
00:33:266 (1) - Slider-end is a strong beat though... Make this 3/4 or something so 00:33:582 - can be clicked.
01:01:371 - Why do you randomly have 1.20x SV for like 4 seconds before going back to 1.00 lol

The gap from Hard to Normal is way too large. You use 1.60 base SV on Hard which is extremely high, and then 0.95x on Normal. This results in a huge difficulty spike even though rhythmically theres a decent progression from 1/1's and 1/2 rhythms in Normal to 1/2 rhythms on Hard.

Good luck

Lasse

osu! Alumni

3,644 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-09-04T01:58:32+00:00

I'll look at the mod after getting some sleep

So maybe I should remap the normal nearly the same but based on sth like 1.2sv?
I think I've seen quite some maps with similar gaps between normal and hard getting ranked this year , but idk how the SV on those was.

Would you classify the current NH gap more as 'meh' or 'unrankable levels of meh'?
Since your post reads like the 1/1 - 1/2 progression for those is fine but the SV on normal is a bit low

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2015-09-04T08:58:02+00:00

Imo it's unrankable because SV gap is too large, so base DS will also be a huge spike. You could make another diff in between with 1.25x Base SV and Simple stuff, call it an Advanced maybe. Remapping for SV... you might as well just make another diff really.

For me, i like using 0.7-0.9x for Easy, 0.9-1.1 for Normal, 1.1-1.4 for Hard. 1.5-1.8 for Insane and 1.9+ for Extra's. Different people have different preferences, but right now a 0.65x SV just makes the overall difficulty jump too big.

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-09-04T11:15:28+00:00

monstrata wrote:
[A's Pace]

00:03:108 (3,4,5) - You don't find all these kick sliders over the top? I think just 00:02:634 (1,2) - are good enough. Making everything kick-sliders will easily come across as mapping for the same of difficulty. You could cut down on some of the kickslider usage in this intro imo. Not really
00:05:634 (3,4,5) - ^
00:07:371 (6,7) - I really dislike stacks that occur between jump patterns. They break momentum because you force the player to stop all motion before basically doing a vertical screen jump. It's uncomfortable to play. Just use a smaller jump so there is still movement. Changed.
00:08:634 (7,8) - ^
00:15:897 (1,2) - These are 3/4 sliders, i hope you're aware <___< Yes I am..
00:20:003 (2,3) - This is so irregular compared to your spacing for 00:18:740 (2,3) - 00:19:371 (6,7) - right after the "Hai" Changed a bit.
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You are not Hanzer But it still plays well and I like it.
01:01:054 (5,6) - I guess, if you want to change DS you should change on a white tick, right now the DS increases after 6 which is a blue tick. Having a DS increase begin on a white tick makes it more straightforward. I think that's unnecessary, there's nothing to significant on the white tick compared to the whole stream.
01:25:055 (4) - Might as well Ctrl+G this because the flow is pretty damn nice when Ctrl+G'ed. I'll overlook the sheer amount of jumps you're forcing lol. I LIKE THIS SO MUCH, CHANGED.
01:25:529 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Im surprised there's no DS increase to match the pitch change. Uhm, I think the pattern is a bit underwhelming actually, changed it to use some sliders and it should be nicer now.
Good luck

Thank you monstrata :3

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Lasse

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Lasse 2015-09-04T11:43:56+00:00

monstrata wrote:
[Insane]

00:06:262 - wouldn't hurt to snap this green line fixed
00:07:687 (1) - This should really be two circles for the drums. I have the 1/2 slider here for the vocals like the two times this happens before. I know about the drums here, but I think this just fits better for consistency But I put drum hitsounds on the slliderend too
00:25:845 (8,1) - You sould have a jump here for emphasis onto the downbeat (1). 00:24:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You map a jump to every white tick so you should continue that pattern into the next combo. changed position of 8 a bit to make for a 2x jump like before
00:53:792 (1,2) - These sliders just feel really random. The SV doesn't fit the music because there is a pitch increase onto 00:55:055 (1,2,3,4) - but you use a lower SV and simpler shapes :S. Yeah, reduced sv to 1x for first half, now second half is 1.2 and changed the sliders
01:19:213 - There are clear beats on the red ticks too. Suddenly shifting to 1/1 rhythm makes this section feel really empty. if not circles, 1/2 sliders work too. Circles would take away too much emphasis from the vocals imo. Made 1/2 sliders that can be played like singletaps
[Light Insane]

00:07:687 (1) - These should be two circles too, or at least map a larger jump to them for better emphasis. You map the same drum hits to circles later on so its weird to use a slider here. I already explained my reasoning on the Insane and I think it's fine since that slider+ds type pattern appears only 3 time, namely for the shouted vocals in the intro.
00:13:371 (1) - Change the combo color to something else. On the Default spinner the blue combo color becomes really difficult to read. I fit one more nc before it, should be fine now
00:40:529 (3,4,5,6,1) - You spam the same star-jump pattern a lot in this diff, Try using other combinations or jump patterns .
I'll look into that
01:03:897 (1,2,3,4) - Awkward, same reason as Insane. There are beats on red ticks, even if you don't want to make them clickable and focus on vocals, using 1/2 sliders will benefit this section by not making it feel so empty and different in intensity from the jumps before/after changed here too
01:26:476 (5,6) - The song is growing in intensity, why the sliders? if anything you should use the at the beginning and transition to circles as the pitch goes up with intensity made them small jumps instead + nc so the transition from stack to jump is clearer.
As for the stars oraoraora
I remapped some of them
00:19:687 - now a close-far alternating pattern
00:27:266 (1) - zigzag
00:28:529 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - stays the same since it's really satisfying to play and it's not "only" a star
00:32:318 (1,2,3,4,5) - stays too, fits really well here
00:34:845 (1,2,3,4,5) - made back and forth, with increasing ds for 3, emphasizes the "hai" rellay well (still aligned like a star but play completely different)
00:40:529 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - stays with 00:42:424 (1,2,3,4,5) - cause it's nicely consitent with 00:28:529 // 00:32:318
01:08:003 (2,1,2,3,4) - first star since ~30 seconds (not counting 00:58:845 (1,2,3,4) - since one point is missing and it's 1/1) and it fits well here so it stays, also first and only star during kiai
Star count: 7 (Old) -> -3 (removed => 4
that shouldn't be too much for a 1:30 map now

[Hard]

00:23:476 (1,2,3) - Weird flow here. 1>2 is nice and then you have to make a sharp movement into 3. I think it's fine here, as it plays like a small triangle
00:24:582 (4,1) - ^ here too, I think it plays nicely even without that "circular" flow but it just plays a bit more like small tirangular jumps
00:33:266 (1) - Slider-end is a strong beat though... Make this 3/4 or something so 00:33:582 - can be clicked. Didn't really wnant to put a 3/4 slider -> singletap on a hard but if it's fine then I'll do it
01:01:371 - Why do you randomly have 1.20x SV for like 4 seconds before going back to 1.00 lol ugh, ummmm I don't even know anymore, made that part 1x too
The gap from Hard to Normal is way too large. You use 1.60 base SV on Hard which is extremely high, and then 0.95x on Normal. This results in a huge difficulty spike even though rhythmically theres a decent progression from 1/1's and 1/2 rhythms in Normal to 1/2 rhythms on Hard.

Good luck

thanks

A's Pace updated

As for the N-H spread, I'll look into it as I said before

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-09-04T14:42:11+00:00

I had some ideas anyway that would've been to hard to put on that normal but too easy for the hard, so making another diff inbetween was easier than expected.

Added new "Advanced" difficulty => redownload

Avishay

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Avishay 2015-09-04T15:29:29+00:00

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192,240,62950,2,0,B|112:248|112:248|152:312,1,147.000005607605,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,352,63266,1,8,1:0:0:0:
372,240,63424,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,96,63582,1,8,0:0:0:0:
236,33,63740,1,8,0:0:0:0:
188,344,63897,6,0,L|12:320,1,147.000005607605,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,40,64213,2,0,L|500:64,1,147.000005607605,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,180,64529,2,0,P|96:108|53:49,1,147.000005607605,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,204,64845,2,0,P|415:275|458:334,1,147.000005607605,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,328,65161,5,8,3:0:0:0:
248,192,65318,1,8,3:0:0:0:
365,97,65476,1,8,3:0:0:0:
220,328,65634,2,0,B|128:316|72:380|72:380|92:308,1,220.500008411408,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,216,65950,1,0,0:0:0:0:
357,234,66108,1,8,1:0:0:0:
232,292,66266,1,0,0:0:0:0:
130,82,66424,5,4,0:0:0:0:
365,97,66582,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,216,66740,1,8,1:0:0:0:
256,24,66897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
357,234,67055,1,8,0:0:0:0:
120,216,67213,1,0,0:0:0:0:
365,97,67371,1,8,1:0:0:0:
232,292,67529,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,316,67687,5,8,0:0:0:0:
288,360,67845,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,144,68003,1,8,1:0:0:0:
366,309,68161,1,0,0:0:0:0:
149,290,68318,1,0,0:0:0:0:
356,216,68476,1,8,0:0:0:0:
232,24,68634,2,0,B|218:78|218:78|224:120|224:120|204:184,1,147.000005607605,8|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,348,68950,6,0,P|68:352|52:232,1,183.75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,292,69266,2,0,P|324:253|288:137,1,183.75,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,216,69582,6,0,P|128:116|168:228,1,294.00001121521,0|8,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
197,213,70055,1,0,0:0:0:0:
388,356,70213,5,4,1:3:0:0:
316,120,70371,1,4,1:3:0:0:
248,360,70529,1,4,1:3:0:0:
444,208,70687,1,4,1:3:0:0:
197,213,70845,1,4,3:0:0:0:
169,191,70923,1,0,3:0:0:0:
149,162,71002,1,8,3:0:0:0:
140,128,71081,1,0,3:0:0:0:
144,92,71161,2,0,B|73:75|71:91|69:108|-1:95,1,147.000005607605,8|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,92,71476,6,0,B|439:75|441:91|443:108|513:95,1,147.000005607605,4|0,3:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
279,312,71792,2,0,P|210:335|138:328,1,147.000005607605,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
212,68,72108,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,188,72266,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,64,72424,1,8,1:0:0:0:
197,213,72582,1,0,1:0:0:0:
416,104,72740,6,0,B|436:64|436:64|468:188,1,147.000005607605,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
507,222,73055,2,0,B|487:262|487:262|461:162,1,147.000005607605,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
461,162,73371,5,8,0:0:0:0:
280,364,73529,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,228,73687,1,8,1:0:0:0:
372,224,73845,1,0,0:0:0:0:
188,376,74003,6,0,P|172:268|304:232,1,220.500008411408,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,224,74318,2,0,B|408:272|408:272|444:200|396:88,1,220.500008411408,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,217,74634,2,0,B|220:265|220:265|184:193|232:81,1,220.500008411408
256,217,74950,2,0,B|323:243|323:243|175:247,1,220.500008411408,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,228,75266,5,6,1:0:0:0:
176,164,75424,1,0,1:0:0:0:
164,328,75582,1,8,1:0:0:0:
28,236,75740,2,0,B|24:76|-52:156|-48:216|100:188|112:100,1,220.500008411408,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,96,76055,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,216,76213,1,8,0:0:0:0:
376,96,76371,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,304,76529,6,0,B|188:320|188:320|112:348,1,147.000005607605,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,304,76845,1,8,1:0:0:0:
145,335,77003,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,360,77161,2,0,P|384:256|420:192,2,147.000005607605,8|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
488,240,77634,1,8,0:0:0:0:
432,88,77792,5,8,1:0:0:0:
281,122,77950,2,0,P|177:118|113:82,2,147.000005607605,0|8|0,0:0|1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
69,190,78424,1,8,0:0:0:0:
203,13,78582,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,236,78740,1,2,0:1:0:0:
72,53,78897,1,2,0:1:0:0:
392,198,79055,6,0,P|350:138|281:122,1,147.000005607605,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,351,79371,2,0,P|303:293|297:222,1,147.000005607605,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,274,79687,2,0,P|139:297|206:270,1,147.000005607605,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,198,80003,1,2,0:0:0:0:
72,274,80161,1,2,0:0:0:0:
259,352,80318,5,10,1:0:0:0:
86,76,80476,1,8,1:0:0:0:
392,198,80634,1,10,3:0:0:0:
72,274,80792,1,8,3:0:0:0:
281,27,80950,5,8,1:0:0:0:
322,28,81028,1,0,0:0:0:0:
363,29,81107,1,4,3:0:0:0:
404,30,81186,1,4,3:0:0:0:
444,32,81266,6,0,L|460:112,1,78.4,4|0,3:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
408,308,81582,5,2,0:0:0:0:
259,352,81740,1,2,0:0:0:0:
436,344,81897,2,0,L|448:228,1,98,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
231,316,82213,5,2,0:0:0:0:
82,360,82371,1,2,0:0:0:0:
259,352,82529,2,0,L|271:236,1,98,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,40,82845,5,2,0:0:0:0:
172,172,83003,1,2,0:0:0:0:
200,20,83161,2,0,P|132:24|84:56,1,98,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,192,83476,5,2,0:0:0:0:
144,324,83634,1,2,0:0:0:0:
172,172,83792,2,0,P|104:176|56:208,1,98,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,324,84108,6,0,L|360:332,1,183.75,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,248,84424,2,0,L|320:256,1,183.75,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,172,84740,2,0,L|247:178,1,183.75,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
330,11,85055,2,0,P|235:48|312:116,1,245,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,64,85529,5,8,3:0:0:0:
308,340,85687,2,0,P|392:332|440:312,1,122.5,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,64,86003,5,8,3:0:0:0:
204,340,86161,2,0,P|120:332|72:312,1,122.5,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
330,11,86476,5,8,3:0:0:0:
128,232,86634,2,0,B|83:233|83:233|44:248|8:254,1,122.5,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,11,86950,5,8,3:0:0:0:
384,232,87108,2,0,B|428:233|428:233|468:248|503:254,1,122.5,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
451,38,87424,6,0,L|256:31,1,196,8|8,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
96,64,87740,6,0,B|80:128|112:180|112:180|152:144|148:96,1,196,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:

I've decided to redesign some patterns in the beginning because idk, I stopped liking how they look, even though they placed just fine ><

KASUM1

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KASUM1 2015-09-05T16:33:35+00:00

Hello~!

small suggestion

[Advanced]

01:05:792 - add a note here , I think sounds better

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-09-05T16:45:33+00:00

KASUM1 wrote:
Hello~!

small suggestion

[Advanced]

01:05:792 - add a note here , I think sounds better

In general I would agree for this spot, a note would fit and not feel overmapped. But since that whole part
01:03:897 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - etc is mapped to go with the vocals on this diff it feels fiine without the note
also having it like this makes it consistent with other similar parts such as 01:15:740 (4,1) - that are mapped to vocals mainly.

Also it's a bit easier to play this way while it doesn't really feel like something is missing

Arusamour

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Joined April 2014

Arusamour 2015-09-05T17:35:38+00:00

Insane (5,1 stars, 403 notes) Modding

00:01:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - Could be all placed wider because this feels tight when played.

00:02:318 (5) - Add more curve to this so it matches with 00:02:003 (4) and doesn't end up looking ugly and random.

00:02:634 (1,2,1,2,3) - I would remake this. 00:03:108 (1,2,3) Makes 00:02:634 (1,2) look play out really weird.

00:12:897 (3) - You can either make this longer (to the next red tick) or make this slower. Preference tho.

00:17:161 (1) - shape is unnecessary.

00:17:792 (3) - You can try making the curve at the bottom overlap a circle, so it looks cleaner.

00:25:687 (7,8) - place this somewhere else, ruins 00:24:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6) .

00:29:792 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Inconsistent spacing.

00:44:634 (6) - Don't overlap. this spacing is really ugly and you are limiting yourself with available space.

00:50:003 (3,4,5) - You have to space this much further. What you're doing is basically "big jumps, randomly tightly-spaced sliders".

00:57:582 (3) - No need for 2% increase in volume or any at all. This means, you probably have more of these mistakes.

01:01:529 (2) - Don't make this overlap.

01:00:740 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Needs heavy remapping. Really sloppy jumps. Think of the flow and how the jumps are putting effect on flow.

01:27:740 (3) - Improper slider; the curves at the ends are irregular.

Advanced (3,02 stars, 261 notes) Modding

00:02:634 (1) - If you're not going to put enough curve to this; make this a straight slider.

00:03:740 (4) - Place this somewhere else.

00:07:687 (1,2) - x:200 y:64

00:10:845 (1,2,3) - Space closer.

00:13:687 (2,3,4,5) - Very weird shape (not good). Make them closer however.

00:28:845 (2,3,4) - Make bigger curve.

01:01:371 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - It's the chorus. you can space these out more.

01:05:476 (2) - Slider doesn't fit the vocals too well.

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-09-05T21:15:55+00:00

Boobs wrote:
Insane (5,1 stars, 403 notes) Modding
00:01:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - Could be all placed wider because this feels tight when played. 1.6x spacing seems fine here. Also starting the map with bigger jumps would feel bad imo. Also this way there is a notable different between the strong "drum jumps" 00:03:108 (1,2,3) - with 2x spacing

00:02:318 (5) - Add more curve to this so it matches with 00:02:003 (4) and doesn't end up looking ugly and random. huh? I stacked+rotated them and they are the same shape, would be strange if not cause they are just copy paste + rotated

00:02:634 (1,2,1,2,3) - I would remake this. 00:03:108 (1,2,3) Makes 00:02:634 (1,2) look play out really weird. 00:02:634 (1,2,1) - is the same angle and 00:03:108 (1,2,3) - is the same angle, and it feels fine to play

00:12:897 (3) - You can either make this longer (to the next red tick) or make this slower. Preference tho. They go well with the vocals the way they are + changin 3 would make for a really weird pattern for no apparent reason

00:17:161 (1) - shape is unnecessary. I think it goes well with the vocals here

00:17:792 (3) - You can try making the curve at the bottom overlap a circle, so it looks cleaner. Improved this shape

00:25:687 (7,8) - place this somewhere else, ruins 00:24:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6) . Yeah, reworkled that and a bit afterwards

00:29:792 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Inconsistent spacing. ugh, 5 somehow got autostacked on 00:29:476 (6) - , fixed

00:44:634 (6) - Don't overlap. this spacing is really ugly and you are limiting yourself with available space. Yeah I changed that and alro removed that stupid antijump on 00:43:687 (1) -

00:50:003 (3,4,5) - You have to space this much further. What you're doing is basically "big jumps, randomly tightly-spaced sliders". Increased spacing and made it look better

00:57:582 (3) - No need for 2% increase in volume or any at all. This means, you probably have more of these mistakes. It serves for the buildup until 100% for the Kiai, I really like doing that in such small steps because the hitsounds don't suddenly feel louder

01:01:529 (2) - Don't make this overlap. I liked it but see one line below...

01:00:740 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Needs heavy remapping. Really sloppy jumps. Think of the flow and how the jumps are putting effect on flow. I have to agree with you on this, some parts from 01:00:740 (1) - to 01:08:950 (1) - have really bad flow. Remapped that section

01:27:740 (3) - Improper slider; the curves at the ends are irregular.worked on that a bit

Advanced (3,02 stars, 261 notes) Modding
00:02:634 (1) - If you're not going to put enough curve to this; make this a straight slider. It looks better with 3 this way, but I changed the position

00:03:740 (4) - Place this somewhere else. hm. I don't really see a reason, it play fine

00:07:687 (1,2) - x:200 y:64 the current placement keeps the placement consistent with 00:06:575 (1,2,3) - . Suddenly not blanketing this would make that part look weird

00:10:845 (1,2,3) - Space closer. Huh? It's 1.2x like the whole map (except some 1/1 or bigger gaps) also these drum beats are really strong, so lower ds would feel weird.

00:13:687 (2,3,4,5) - Very weird shape (not good). Make them closer however. Yeah small crossover back-forth shape is much better with actual fast jumps. I replaced it with are nicer looking (at least here) one, but again no reason to break the 1.2x ds

00:28:845 (2,3,4) - Make bigger curve. Sure, looks better. Made it align better with 00:28:529 (1) -

01:01:371 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - It's the chorus. you can space these out more. While I agree with that I won't do it because that would make it too hard for this diff. The spacing in this part is way higher for the Hard

01:05:476 (2) - Slider doesn't fit the vocals too well. I tried extending, repeating etc but it just ends up feeling weird, and putting a note on the white tick afterward, but that all seems to play a bit weird. Also the vocal structure ü supporting instrumental is similar to 01:05:161 (1) - so it's fine to play and doesn't really feel weird

I also added another custom normal hitsound and used the normal-hiwthistle instead of the soft one for the kiai on the Insane
=> redownload for this

Deppyforce

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Deppyforce 2015-09-06T12:34:03+00:00

Easy
00:11:476 (2) - Should End At 00:11:950

No Kds

Santtu

539 posts

Joined November 2012

Santtu 2015-09-07T17:08:07+00:00

Hello! From your modding queue

[Advanced]
00:04:529 (2) - You can replace this note somewhere right side of (1), so it flows better. Try something like x272, y260 (if you agree, remember to replace 00:04:845 (3) - also)
00:24:424 (5) - replace this note properly, next/prev distant's should be 1,18x-1,22x
00:30:108 (3) - check blanket
00:40:845 (4) - check blanket
00:42:424 (2) - I'd recommend to use circles here, as you did in 00:32:634 (2,3) - . The rhythm somehow tells me that there would be circles

01:05:950 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - NC places here is bit confusing. Maybe remove NC at 01:08:318 (1) - ?
[Insane]
00:20:318 (1,2,3) - These are too close to health bar. Those almost touch it, so I recommend to put them lower or something
00:21:582 (3) - same as before ^
00:29:476 (6) - check stacking with 00:28:529 (1) -
00:32:161 (1) - This note doesn't need Drum Sampleset & Additions. also It would be maybe better take NC of and add it to the 00:32:318 (2) - , because it's stroke's first beat.
01:22:845 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
[Light Insane]
00:03:108 (1) - Maybe add NC for better readable
00:50:634 (3) - Rotate this -40 to Clockwise (Selection Centre)

Wow This is nice mapset! Good Luck!

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-09-07T17:32:18+00:00

smsh150 wrote:
Hello! From your modding queue

[Advanced]
00:04:529 (2) - You can replace this note somewhere right side of (1), so it flows better. Try something like x272, y260 (if you agree, remember to replace 00:04:845 (3) - also)
Slider leniency makes 1 just flow fine to those, it plays fine right now

00:24:424 (5) - replace this note properly, next/prev distant's should be 1,18x-1,22x done
00:30:108 (3) - check blanket done
00:40:845 (4) - check blanket done
00:42:424 (2) - I'd recommend to use circles here, as you did in 00:32:634 (2,3) - . The rhythm somehow tells me that there would be circles
you'Re right, changed that to be consistent

01:05:950 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - NC places here is bit confusing. Maybe remove NC at 01:08:318 (1) - ? done
[Insane]
00:20:318 (1,2,3) - These are too close to health bar. Those almost touch it, so I recommend to put them lower or something
00:21:582 (3) - same as before ^
They don't seem to be anywhere close to touching the default healthbar or the bigger healthbar of my skin on 1366x768 and putting those lower/right would ruin the whole flow built up before and make for an awful pattern

00:29:476 (6) - check stacking with 00:28:529 (1) - Lookedfine and I restacked it once more and nothing changed, so it seems fine

00:32:161 (1) - This note doesn't need Drum Sampleset & Additions. also It would be maybe better take NC of and add it to the 00:32:318 (2) - , because it's stroke's first beat. Using soft here sound kinda wieird. And while the nc might feel off, it goes perfectly with the vocals this way while the hitsounds add emphasis to the drums and it's just more satisfying to play this way

01:22:845 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^ see other healthbar response

[Light Insane]
00:03:108 (1) - Maybe add NC for better readable Would make NC usage really incosistent, see 00:05:161 (1,2,3,1) - also the DS is consistent + AR9 makes it easy enough to read
00:50:634 (3) - Rotate this -40 to Clockwise (Selection Centre) Applied and made that part flow slightly better

Wow This is nice mapset! Good Luck!

thanks for the mod

Natsu

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Natsu 2015-09-09T11:34:17+00:00

Hi

General:

drum-hitwhistle has like 5 ms delay, here is a fixed ver: http://puu.sh/k58tk/ca0cc05384.wav

A's Pace:

AR its too fast compared to what the map is, I think around 9,5 should be enought.
OD,8,8 seems like a really random value to me, OD is mostly affected by 0,5 changes, so yeah use OD9 or OD 8,5, I'm not really fan of random values tbh
00:01:529 (1,2,3) - add some silent slider-slide or reduce volume, atm the slider sound its really annoying tbh
00:02:634 (1,2) - yeah its an extra diff, but introducing 1/4 slider jumps with this massive spacing ins't cool at all, in most of cases this will be a retry a part just starting the map, isn't better if you introduce them gradually?
00:04:055 (1,2,3) - same as 00:01:529 -
00:05:950 (5,6) - add more spacing between them, the antijump feels really weird to play, maybe space it similar to what you did at 00:03:424 (5,6) -
00:15:897 (1,2,3,4) - tbh I don't see how this big 1/4 jumps are necessary, they just add unnecessary difficulty to the map
00:18:266 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - triplets sounds kinda bad due to the custom hitnormal, I think you can try something different here, maybe use the default one?
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - mean explaining why, this kind of pattern doesn't play nice the only think that they are good is to make player mad, a normal stream will play just nice..
00:43:055 (5,1) - sudden 1/4 jumps like this are really unexpected, mainly cuz the spacing that you are using for your 1/4 patterns 00:36:108 (1,1,1,1) -
00:51:897 (1,2,3) - music is clearly going in 1/2 why you use those extender sliders ( this happen as well in other similar parts) I feel that following the music correctly is better in a rhythm game.
map have fun parts, but some extended sliders make me feel not comfortable with your rhythm usage tbh

Insane:

AR 9 play just fine here, also just use 0D8 or 8,5 since 8,4 feels a bit random tbh
00:02:003 (4,5) - same as Extra diff about the slider sound being annoying, I highly suggest you to reduce volume at this and similar parts or just to add a silent slider-slider
00:04:371 (3,5) - this should be stacked properly, atleast I think that is your intention at this part.
00:26:003 (1,2,3,4) - spacing here feel too short and awkward to play, try to increase it a bit, since you just come to play a jump pattern that's why it doesn't feel that good
00:28:529 (1,6) - similar as 00:04:371 - probaly not noticeable in game, so up to you
00:41:318 (2,4) - its this intended? cuz doesn't look nice imo
00:46:845 (1) - NC isn't necesary at all here, just remove it, instead of generating a random HP boost
00:58:529 (1) - similar above, also I think is alot better and lets confused if you remove this NC, since players will be already aware of the 1/2 just by the stack
01:15:582 (1) - similar as above, and this one doesn't really make sense to me
fun to play

Light Insane:

OD, 7,5 is better
00:04:845 (5,1) - spacing its too short and its really weird to play, add a bit more pls
00:06:266 (1,1) - same as above
00:21:898 (4,1) - spacing is really weird to play again, it doesn't play nicely imo, just add more spacing like you did with 00:20:318 (5,1) -
00:39:897 (1,2) - you are mostly following vocals, the rhythm at 2 make it a bit confused and awkward to play, just make 1 a 1/2 slider and remove the repeat of 2 and move the slider at 00:40:213
00:40:529 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - star pattern is badly done, just use the tool at compose > create polygon circles, since the overlaps there are really bad atm
00:45:582 (5,6) - overlap looks bad, I'm sure you can try a better pattern here
00:52:845 (2,3) - ^
01:08:003 (2,2) - ^
overall fine, didn't like the overlaps tho

Hard:

Use ar8 is enought.
00:04:687 (3,1) - overall blankets around this diff need to be improved a bit, not a big issue, but desing is important in a map
00:07:371 (4,1) - spacing, its too short atm, like 0,10 and the objects almost overlap each other
00:41:792 (4,5) - similar as 00:04:687 (3,1) just check them all around this diff
01:05:950 (1,3) - almost overlap, just space them a bit, breaking the spacing for like 0,02 to avoid this is ok
01:08:003 (5,1) - use a blanket instead? will looks alot better
01:20:950 (5,1) - try to avoid this overlap looks really bad tbh
mostly fine, probably just improve blankets and some nazi stuff

Advanced:

AR 7 is enought, also OD6
00:14:003 - add a circle ignoring the rhythm that you are following with 00:13:371 (1,2) - make it really bad to play, this apply to the next downbeats as wellm you can use sliders as well tho
00:22:371 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - playing all the time to the same clockwise is kind of bored and isn't creative, is like you are just placing objects where the distance snap allow you and making circle flow at the same side all the time.
01:10:845 (7) - the big amount of repeats probably can be confused to play at this lvl of diff.
01:09:582 (3,4) - blanket is really off
diff is ¨fine¨ but there aren't patterns or different kind of flow is mostly doing circles with linear patterns all the time, some variations can make this fun IMO

Normal:

AR 5 OD 4 HP3, your current settings doesn't much sense, mainly cuz the HP get more affected by your comboing, than for those unnecessary decimals
00:11:476 (3) - the double 1/2 repeat slider doesn't work well in more of cases at lower diff, since for a player that is currently playing this lvl of diff, will be a hell to guess how many repeat the slider have. use to 1/2 sliders instead
00:27:266 (4) - same as above and you aren't even being consistent with the number of repeats
01:05:161 (3) - again using different number of repeats, if you gonna do this in a normal diff, atleas keep them consistent, so the player dont have to try luck everytime that he see a multiple repeat slider
01:07:055 (4,1) - blanket
01:10:213 (5) - similar as others

Easy:

00:13:371 (1,2,3,4,5) - just starting modding this diff and I saw this kind of overlaps in your easy diff, try to space this diff properly, even if the star ranting up a bit, it gonna be easy and more new player friendly that the current way this diff is, if you gonna map 1/1 in easy then use a properly spacing so they not overlap
00:51:266 (1,2) - slider shapes a bit weird, just saying
01:00:108 (3,1) - blanket
gonna stop modding this, since I think this diff need a respacing

I kind of disagree with settings usage, seems a bit random tbh, mainly the circle size at insane and hard diff, I really think that the decimal values are just done for the sake of why not, anyways GL with this o/

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-09-09T14:07:14+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Hi

General:

drum-hitwhistle has like 5 ms delay, here is a fixed ver: http://puu.sh/k58tk/ca0cc05384.wav
ugh, I thought I cut all hitsounds appropiately, seems like I missed this one, thanks

Insane:

AR 9 play just fine here, also just use 0D8 or 8,5 since 8,4 feels a bit random tbh Made OD 8.5. I feel AR 9.2 just makes it so much smoother and it'S getting a commong AR for 5*+ SOngs in this bpm range, so I'll keep it. Also having the same AR as the much easier Light Insane feels weird
00:02:003 (4,5) - same as Extra diff about the slider sound being annoying, I highly suggest you to reduce volume at this and similar parts or just to add a silent slider-slider Didn't bother me that much, but added silent soft/drum sliderslide
00:04:371 (3,5) - this should be stacked properly, atleast I think that is your intention at this part. done
00:26:003 (1,2,3,4) - spacing here feel too short and awkward to play, try to increase it a bit, since you just come to play a jump pattern that's why it doesn't feel that good I think the relatively slow slider and the stack make it play fine. It also goes well with the less emphasized vocals here
00:28:529 (1,6) - similar as 00:04:371 - probaly not noticeable in game, so up to you still fixed it
00:41:318 (2,4) - its this intended? cuz doesn't look nice imo I changed it a bit, flow should stay the same while looking better
00:46:845 (1) - NC isn't necesary at all here, just remove it, instead of generating a random HP boostmakes it a bit harder to read but ok
00:58:529 (1) - similar above, also I think is alot better and lets confused if you remove this NC, since players will be already aware of the 1/2 just by the stack I agree that it might not be necessary, but removing it makes the game draw a followpoint in an angle that makes the whole pattern look worse :/
01:15:582 (1) - similar as above, and this one doesn't really make sense to me removed that one
fun to play
thanks, took lots of remaps and mods to reach this state

Light Insane:

OD, 7,5 is better I like 7.7 as it makes the OD gap between Hard-L Insane - Insane more even
00:04:845 (5,1) - spacing its too short and its really weird to play, add a bit more pls done
00:06:266 (1,1) - same as above done
00:21:898 (4,1) - spacing is really weird to play again, it doesn't play nicely imo, just add more spacing like you did with 00:20:318 (5,1) -
Imo the distance in time between those makes it play fine enough, and this is the best position for the slider to get a good flow into the stream
00:39:897 (1,2) - you are mostly following vocals, the rhythm at 2 make it a bit confused and awkward to play, just make 1 a 1/2 slider and remove the repeat of 2 and move the slider at 00:40:213 slightly hcanged this part
00:40:529 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - star pattern is badly done, just use the tool at compose > create polygon circles, since the overlaps there are really bad atm worked a bit on that
00:45:582 (5,6) - overlap looks bad, I'm sure you can try a better pattern here Changed this pattern
00:52:845 (2,3) - ^rotated a little
01:08:003 (2,2) - ^ Changed this pattern
overall fine, didn't like the overlaps tho they are fixed so it should be a nice diff now
Hard:

Use ar8 is enought. 8.2 seems fine considering the bopm/note density. Also makes the gap Adv - Hard - L. Insane better this way
00:04:687 (3,1) - overall blankets around this diff need to be improved a bit, not a big issue, but desing is important in a map fixed lots
00:07:371 (4,1) - spacing, its too short atm, like 0,10 and the objects almost overlap each other fixed
00:41:792 (4,5) - similar as 00:04:687 (3,1) just check them all around this diff fixed lots
01:05:950 (1,3) - almost overlap, just space them a bit, breaking the spacing for like 0,02 to avoid this is ok changed slightly
01:08:003 (5,1) - use a blanket instead? will looks alot better changed a bit
01:20:950 (5,1) - try to avoid this overlap looks really bad tbh changed a bit
mostly fine, probably just improve blankets and some nazi stuff
Advanced:

AR 7 is enought, also OD6 changed
00:14:003 - add a circle ignoring the rhythm that you are following with 00:13:371 (1,2) - make it really bad to play, this apply to the next downbeats as wellm you can use sliders as well tho changed a bit
00:22:371 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - playing all the time to the same clockwise is kind of bored and isn't creative, is like you are just placing objects where the distance snap allow you and making circle flow at the same side all the time.
I agree with that, changed things quite a bit here
01:10:845 (7) - the big amount of repeats probably can be confused to play at this lvl of diff. It's a 3* diff just meant to be a slightly easier hard, should be fine since it's also the best way to fit the drumroll here. Also this chorus into drummroll patern i nthe song is not happening for the first time, so players should be able to expect how long it is, should be fine
01:09:582 (3,4) - blanket is really off should be fine now
diff is ¨fine¨ but there aren't patterns or different kind of flow is mostly doing circles with linear patterns all the time, some variations can make this fun IMO changd some parts so the flow isn't the samer all the time
Normal:

AR 5 OD 4 HP3, your current settings doesn't much sense, mainly cuz the HP get more affected by your comboing, than for those unnecessary decimals yeah, fine
00:11:476 (3) - the double 1/2 repeat slider doesn't work well in more of cases at lower diff, since for a player that is currently playing this lvl of diff, will be a hell to guess how many repeat the slider have. use to 1/2 sliders instead changed
00:27:266 (4) - same as above and you aren't even being consistent with the number of repeats
01:05:161 (3) - again using different number of repeats, if you gonna do this in a normal diff, atleas keep them consistent, so the player dont have to try luck everytime that he see a multiple repeat slider
01:07:055 (4,1) - blanket fixed
01:10:213 (5) - similar as others
so for the repeat sliders, I removed all the even ones (2x,4x) and only left the 3x and 5x ones, which should make it much better, especially because they both only happen on certain sounds. This way the player will alwaysw expect a 1x or 3x repeat and can react accordingly

Easy:

00:13:371 (1,2,3,4,5) - just starting modding this diff and I saw this kind of overlaps in your easy diff, try to space this diff properly, even if the star ranting up a bit, it gonna be easy and more new player friendly that the current way this diff is, if you gonna map 1/1 in easy then use a properly spacing so they not overlap
00:51:266 (1,2) - slider shapes a bit weird, just saying I think they're fine
01:00:108 (3,1) - blanket Respacing the map anyways
gonna stop modding this, since I think this diff need a respacing
I was afraid to make it too hard when I first mapped it. Respaced so it is 1.0x now, should be much better, still easy and without all the overlaps
I kind of disagree with settings usage, seems a bit random tbh, mainly the circle size at insane and hard diff, I really think that the decimal values are just done for the sake of why not, anyways GL with this o/
I changed some of the settings, as for the cs, for Normal to Light Insane it's increasing by .2 each diff. The Insane is 4.2 because it seemed to go really well and I personally like it much more than plain old cs4

Thanks for the huge mod

Due to the fixed hitsound + silent slidersldies map should be downloaded again

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-09-09T14:29:14+00:00

Seems like there was a problem with the new silent sliderslides that corrupted the download.

I added new ones (also silent) and it should be fine now => redownload

Avishay

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Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-09-09T14:42:20+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Hi

General:

drum-hitwhistle has like 5 ms delay, here is a fixed ver: http://puu.sh/k58tk/ca0cc05384.wav
A's Pace:

AR its too fast compared to what the map is, I think around 9,5 should be enought.
OD,8,8 seems like a really random value to me, OD is mostly affected by 0,5 changes, so yeah use OD9 or OD 8,5, I'm not really fan of random values tbh
00:01:529 (1,2,3) - add some silent slider-slide or reduce volume, atm the slider sound its really annoying tbh
00:02:634 (1,2) - yeah its an extra diff, but introducing 1/4 slider jumps with this massive spacing ins't cool at all, in most of cases this will be a retry a part just starting the map, isn't better if you introduce them gradually? I don't think it really matters, those sliders aren't supposed to play like a regular sliders neither circles, however I think they are fine.
00:04:055 (1,2,3) - same as 00:01:529 -
00:05:950 (5,6) - add more spacing between them, the antijump feels really weird to play, maybe space it similar to what you did at 00:03:424 (5,6) - V
00:15:897 (1,2,3,4) - tbh I don't see how this big 1/4 jumps are necessary, they just add unnecessary difficulty to the map It's not a huge jump, it goes nicely and it emphasizes the vocals.
00:18:266 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - triplets sounds kinda bad due to the custom hitnormal, I think you can try something different here, maybe use the default one? Good idea, changes some stuff around with that change.
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - mean explaining why, this kind of pattern doesn't play nice the only think that they are good is to make player mad, a normal stream will play just nice.. Not really, this one plays great, it is oddly satisfying to play it and it plays really well, you play it like a regular stream and it does wonders.
00:43:055 (5,1) - sudden 1/4 jumps like this are really unexpected, mainly cuz the spacing that you are using for your 1/4 patterns 00:36:108 (1,1,1,1) - Regardless, it goes really well with the song and following the same spacing is not really mandatory here.
00:51:897 (1,2,3) - music is clearly going in 1/2 why you use those extender sliders ( this happen as well in other similar parts) I feel that following the music correctly is better in a rhythm game. Egh.. this is why this part felt so awkward to me, I wanted to follow the vocals but 1/2 works much better here, changed.
map have fun parts, but some extended sliders make me feel not comfortable with your rhythm usage tbh

I'll leave the settings as they are, because I feel they fit just fine. Oh, and Lasse fixed the sliderslides.

Thanks!

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HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2015-09-17T14:04:11+00:00

Hi! Lasse Here's the m4m of your queue. <3 The map that I want you to mod is url'ed on the image. (•w•)

General

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General]Well, there's not much to say about the general aspects here, but consider reading the ones I point below this statement:

Consider add 2000 on Audio Leadin on A's Pace, Hard, Insane and Light Insane. This is because the song starts to early and if the player isn't aware about this, he/she might miss the first notes.
Despite the fact that Avishay maps an extra with a different kiai time, I think it would make more sense if he keeps the kiai time the same as well as the other diffs do.. The way he split up the kiai doesn't flow good. Nonetheless, he's the one that will agree or not with this.
There's a wave hitsounds with might have a possible delay higher than 5ms normal-hitfinish.wav Consider asking a BN about to fix that problem because it's unrankable according to Ranking Criteria.
As long as you're not mapping the complete version of this song, this is the correct metadata, according to these two ranked versions:
1. Romanised Artist: Nanamori-chu * Goraku-bu
2. Romanised Title My Pace de Ikimashou (TV Size) Why, because this is a cute version of the original song. Besides, this is supported by this ranked version
3. Then, remove tv size from tags because it's now already on the title.
4. Add Akaza Akari because this is the character's name of the loli of the right bottom corner.
5. Add Toshinou Kyouko because this is the character's name of the loli of the left bottom corner.
6. Add Funami Yui because this is the character's name of the loli of the upper left corner.
7. Add Yoshikawa Chinatsu because this is the character's name of the loli of the upper right corner.
Make sure to Uncheck Widescreen Support option on EACH DIFF as long as you don't have storyboard. Otherwise, there's no need to have this option checked. I noticed it checked on the Easy diff.

Easy

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Easy]Besides that I got 100% in ths diff, the flow and the patterns are readable. I pretty like this Easy diff. Good job!

I highly suggest to use The Beat Snap Divison on 1/2 in this Easy as long as there are 1/2 notes that fit with the song. o-o
I would like to know a reason why you set the HP Drain Time in 1.7. Thus knowing that the HP Drain Time of the Normal diff goes on 3. I think it would make more sense if you keep the rounded number as 2 in this Easy for consistency.
The same goes to with the OD Overall Difficulty. It would make more sense if you set it on 2 fro consistency as well as you do with the Normal (4) and the Advanced (6).
Also, I'd like to know why AR (Approach Rate) plays for you better on 3.2 rather than 3. Despite of the stars rating of this diff seems to look like a normalish-easy, It would look better if you keep rounded numbers as 3 to make it consitent with the normal (5) and the Advanced (7).
Remove these unnecessary green lines as long as they're not making a big change on the mapset: 00:48:897 -
00:02:634 (1,2) Going beyond that these two slider are symmetric, the flow isn't that good. The current way the ball circulates in the slider is a little crappy and odd. (Those slider's points are totally random) It would make more sense if the slide followed the drums with its own wave. What about this? It's not the best mustache, but it matches better with the drums.
00:02:634 (1,2) Remove the whistle of these two sliders. The current claps fits better and the use of the whistle overload that slider doesn't sound well there.
00:11:476 (2) The slider's end doesn't fit properly with the song. As the main bet ends on 00:11:950, the slider's end isn't making either an emphasis here, si it would make more sense if you remove the reverse of that slider and make it end on 00:11:792 to emphasize better that beat. Just like this.
00:11:476 (2) Just a minor suggestion, but you can improve the flow by putting it here x=380|y=192.
00:14:950 (4) This is another nazi suggestion, but there are such as unnecessary slider's points to make the "S" curvy flow. Try out to make it as simple as this.
00:21:266 (1) Remove the NC here to make this pattern consistency with the previous one, as you did here 00:13:371 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7).
00:31:055 (3) Add NC here to keep the NC'ing pattern you have on the previous patterns as well as you did here 00:23:476 (1,2,1,2) every two big ticks.
00:51:266 (1,2) Just a mini-visual suggestion, but you can make simple curve sliders for this pattern. o-o The current ones play good but look a bit odd.
00:55:055 (3) Same here, by moving the middle slider's point would make a better blanket here. It would look cooler like this.
01:00:108 (3) The current slider's end doesn't match well with the song. It would sound better if you made it end on a strong beat as this one 01:00:108 (3).
01:03:897 (4) Just another visual suggestion, but this slider could look better if you try out something less complicated that followed the vocals in its own wave. what about this?

Normal

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Normal] Normal diff has my approval too. Good job! How ever, there are somethings that I would like to suggest you:

00:02:634 (1) Just a visual suggestion, but you can improve the slider wave of this slider by moving the end slider's point a bit to the right to make it like this.
00:17:792 (4) Same goes here, by moving the middle slider's point a grid to the right.
00:35:161 (3,1) Here the overlap is very noticeable and looks bad. Try out to don't overlap objects in this diff because it looks uncluttered.
00:37:371 (3,4,5,6) The rhythm doesn't play bad here, but despite knowing this section is entire 1/2, it might be harder to tap because the notes are too close and judging from the 1/1 rhythm you manage in the previous patterns, this makes stuffs harder to players. It would make more sense if you change the 1/2 circles into 1/2 sliders to improve the playability of this flow.
00:41:161 (1,2) The current rhythm doesn't match properly with the song. I know you wanted to emphasize some of the vocals beats with this slider 00:41:161 (1) but that doesn't play good because you're following the strong beats of the vocals and some drums beats, and despite that ending on a 1/2 doesn't make a good empahsis on it. It would be better if you follow the strong beats that go here 00:41:792 and here 00:42:266. what about thys rhytm then?
01:00:108 (1,2) Personally, I was playing this and I miss up the second slider because it doesn't match with the song indeed. I think it would be cooler if you emphasize here the vocals and make start the slider 01:00:582 to not miss that important vocal beat. Just like this.
01:25:371 (1) A finish would have sounded better here. Just because consistency of the spinner emphasis. ;w;

Advanced

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Advanced] Well I like this advanced, but I couldn't such as big issues here. Here I'll just point out some suggestions that can help:

00:07:371 (3,1,2) I know you wanted to keep DS consistency here, but it would look better if you keep the same space as you did with the previous sliders. Moving a bit the circles to the right would make it cooler.
00:11:476 (3,4,5,6) It's just a mini-visual nazi suggestion, but you can keep the same DS 0.20x with all the notes here. It will make stuffs tidy and better to read.
00:25:371 (3,4) Same suggestion of the first point. They almost overlap each other. what about this flow?
00:45:266 (2,3) ^ this.

As I can't mod higher diffs, my mod ends' here! Good luck with the mapset!

Lasse

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Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-09-18T13:28:23+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
General
[ General]Well, there's not much to say about the general aspects here, but consider reading the ones I point below this statement:
Consider add 2000 on Audio Leadin on A's Pace, Hard, Insane and Light Insane. This is because the song starts to early and if the player isn't aware about this, he/she might miss the first notes.
I don't really know if I want to do that or not, I'll consider it
There's a wave hitsounds with might have a possible delay higher than 5ms normal-hitfinish.wav Consider asking a BN about to fix that problem because it's unrankable according to Ranking Criteria. Looks like barely 5ms to me (according to Audition) but I cut it nonetheless
[about the title/tv size] the short version you linked is relatively old (I believe before the guidelines for naming tv sizes etc. got changed) There is no official source to support the "tv size" and also thisjust got ranked like two weeks ago which is the same version as mine with the same metadata (no tv size in the name)
[add character names to tags] sure, why not, the other just ranked version has it too
[*] Make sure to Uncheck Widescreen Support option on EACH DIFF as long as you don't have storyboard. Otherwise, there's no need to have this option checked. I noticed it checked on the Easy diff. Seems like I overlooked the easy while removing it from all, thanks for pointing it out, removed[/list]

Easy
[ Easy]Besides that I got 100% in ths diff, the flow and the patterns are readable. I pretty like this Easy diff. Good job!
I highly suggest to use The Beat Snap Divison on 1/2 in this Easy as long as there are 1/2 notes that fit with the song. o-o ugh, the song is 190bpm, using mostly 1/1 seems more suitable for an easy diff at this bpm
[HP/AR/OD] sure, all applied
Remove these unnecessary green lines as long as they're not making a big change on the mapset: 00:48:897 - done
00:02:634 (1,2) Going beyond that these two slider are symmetric, the flow isn't that good. The current way the ball circulates in the slider is a little crappy and odd. (Those slider's points are totally random) It would make more sense if the slide followed the drums with its own wave. What about this? It's not the best mustache, but it matches better with the drums.
I changed those two sliders to other shapes that look better and go better with the drums (wobble for first dum part, curve for second)

00:02:634 (1,2) Remove the whistle of these two sliders. The current claps fits better and the use of the whistle overload that slider doesn't sound well there. done
00:11:476 (2) The slider's end doesn't fit properly with the song. As the main bet ends on 00:11:950, the slider's end isn't making either an emphasis here, si it would make more sense if you remove the reverse of that slider and make it end on 00:11:792 to emphasize better that beat. Just like this. changed
00:11:476 (2) Just a minor suggestion, but you can improve the flow by putting it here x=380|y=192. moved a bit
00:14:950 (4) This is another nazi suggestion, but there are such as unnecessary slider's points to make the "S" curvy flow. Try out to make it as simple as this. I thing the curving of this looks slightly better the way it is right now
00:21:266 (1) Remove the NC here to make this pattern consistency with the previous one, as you did here 00:13:371 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7). done
00:31:055 (3) Add NC here to keep the NC'ing pattern you have on the previous patterns as well as you did here 00:23:476 (1,2,1,2) every two big ticks. done
00:51:266 (1,2) Just a mini-visual suggestion, but you can make simple curve sliders for this pattern. o-o The current ones play good but look a bit odd.
They are meant to looks a bit odd. The whole diff is basically some circles + lots of normal curved slider, this makes them stand out a bit more just like the vocals here
00:55:055 (3) Same here, by moving the middle slider's point would make a better blanket here. It would look cooler like this. changed a bit
01:00:108 (3) The current slider's end doesn't match well with the song. It would sound better if you made it end on a strong beat as this one 01:00:108 (3). I think it goes well with drums a nd vocals right now
01:03:897 (4) Just another visual suggestion, but this slider could look better if you try out something less complicated that followed the vocals in its own wave. what about this?
I think the current one is nice here

~~Thanks for the mod, I'll reply to the other diffs and mod back later today~~

Please redownload for fixed normal-hitfinish.wav

Last edited by Lasse 2015-09-18T14:14:07+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Lasse

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Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-09-18T14:13:20+00:00

second part of the reply

HappyRocket88 wrote:
Normal
[ Normal] Normal diff has my approval too. Good job! How ever, there are somethings that I would like to suggest you:
00:02:634 (1) Just a visual suggestion, but you can improve the slider wave of this slider by moving the end slider's point a bit to the right to make it like this. changed a bit
00:17:792 (4) Same goes here, by moving the middle slider's point a grid to the right. changed a bit
00:35:161 (3,1) Here the overlap is very noticeable and looks bad. Try out to don't overlap objects in this diff because it looks uncluttered.
Those are 3 beats apart, barely noticeable during gameplay and it is the best place to put everything in terms of flow/playability/ds
00:37:371 (3,4,5,6) The rhythm doesn't play bad here, but despite knowing this section is entire 1/2, it might be harder to tap because the notes are too close and judging from the 1/1 rhythm you manage in the previous patterns, this makes stuffs harder to players. It would make more sense if you change the 1/2 circles into 1/2 sliders to improve the playability of this flow.
The completely consistent ds makes this easy to read and taps put much better emphasis here, I think they are nice here
00:41:161 (1,2) The current rhythm doesn't match properly with the song. I know you wanted to emphasize some of the vocals beats with this slider 00:41:161 (1) but that doesn't play good because you're following the strong beats of the vocals and some drums beats, and despite that ending on a 1/2 doesn't make a good empahsis on it. It would be better if you follow the strong beats that go here 00:41:792 and here 00:42:266. what about thys rhytm then? I think it adds some variety, also the fact that it is a slider into singletap makes it even less problematic due to the slider leniency, so even if someone misreads/misplays slightly it won't break the combo
01:00:108 (1,2) Personally, I was playing this and I miss up the second slider because it doesn't match with the song indeed. I think it would be cooler if you emphasize here the vocals and make start the slider 01:00:582 to not miss that important vocal beat. Just like this. yes, that seems better, changed
01:25:371 (1) A finish would have sounded better here. Just because consistency of the spinner emphasis. ;w;
huh? I used the same hitsounding for the same spinner on easy. Consider that this uses the Custom2 set which is barely used for anything else and this "whistle" goes pretty well with the hight pitched shout at the end of the spinner, so I'll keep it like that
Advanced
[ Advanced] Well I like this advanced, but I couldn't such as big issues here. Here I'll just point out some suggestions that can help:
00:07:371 (3,1,2) I know you wanted to keep DS consistency here, but it would look better if you keep the same space as you did with the previous sliders. Moving a bit the circles to the right would make it cooler. That's where they were supposed to be, seems like it got messed up by autostacking, applied
00:11:476 (3,4,5,6) It's just a mini-visual nazi suggestion, but you can keep the same DS 0.20x with all the notes here. It will make stuffs tidy and better to read. seems like grid snap was on for this, changed them all to 0.21x since 0.2 didn't really work
00:25:371 (3,4) Same suggestion of the first point. They almost overlap each other. what about this flow? changed those a bit I really like this pattern right nowm especially the whole 45° thing and as long as they are not actually overlapping I don't see any issues with it
00:45:266 (2,3) ^ this.
As I can't mod higher diffs, my mod ends' here! Good luck with the mapset!

KASUM1

336 posts

Joined December 2013

KASUM1 2015-09-18T19:14:27+00:00

Hello ~! I'm here for M4M

[A's Pace]

00:16:213 (2,4) - this overlap is intentional?
00:43:687 (1) - how about something like that http://puu.sh/kfOGs/ff64786a14.jpg and blanket 00:44:318 (4) -
00:45:740 (5,1) - blanket this for better pattern

[Insane]

00:49:371 (4,3) - this overlap is intentional?
01:01:687 (2,4) - more neater

[Light Insane]

00:49:371 (4,1) - stack the sliders trail
01:17:792 (3,6) - stack

[Hard]

01:20:950 (5,1) - overlap

[Normal]

00:35:161 (3,1) - stack with slider trail if possible
01:23:792 (4,1) - fix blanket

[Easy]

Perfect

Sorry for the short mod , It's so hard to find issues since you had like 50+ mods

I hope something helps

Lasse

osu! Alumni

3,644 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-09-18T19:53:38+00:00

KASUM1 wrote:
Hello ~! I'm here for M4M

[Insane]

00:49:371 (4,3) - this overlap is intentional? umm yes it is, it's even stacked...
01:01:687 (2,4) - more neater fixed blanket

[Light Insane]

00:49:371 (4,1) - stack the sliders trail would ruin at least one of the pattern and the overlap is not visible during gameplay
01:17:792 (3,6) - stack would make some weird incosistent ds and the overlap is not visible during gameplay

[Hard]

01:20:950 (5,1) - overlap ??? where?

[Normal]

00:35:161 (3,1) - stack with slider trail if possible would ruin spacing and the pattern
01:23:792 (4,1) - fix blanket But it's perfect already image

[Easy]

Perfect

Sorry for the short mod , It's so hard to find issues since you had like 50+ mods

I hope something helps

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-09-19T08:46:00+00:00

KASUM1 wrote:
Hello ~! I'm here for M4M

[A's Pace]

00:16:213 (2,4) - this overlap is intentional? Yes.
00:43:687 (1) - how about something like that http://puu.sh/kfOGs/ff64786a14.jpg and blanket 00:44:318 (4) - No
00:45:740 (5,1) - blanket this for better pattern Nice.

I hope something helps

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Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2015-09-23T19:01:03+00:00

Yep, M4M

[Normal]

00:21:582 (2,3) - correct blanket
00:37:371 (3,4,5,6) - maybe 1/2 sliders? this is hard for new players

00:46:845 (3,4) - symmetry
01:15:266 (3,4) - little ugly for me :/ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3716542 ?
01:23:792 (4,1) - blanket

[Advanced]

CS = 3,5 HP = 5 (why 4) ? :/

00:11:476 (3,4,5,6) - i prefer to normal DS
00:13:371 (1) - delete NC and put NC here 00:13:687 (2) -
00:46:213 (1,2) - hmmm... It looks awkward for me

btw. Nice Advanced to learn single tap for Hard players

[Hard]

AR = 8 OD = 6 nothing else, good

[Light Insane]

CS = 4 OD = 7,5 or 8

00:07:055 (4,1) - overlapped?
00:20:003 (3,4,5) - fix space pls this is weird

01:27:424 (1,2,3) - so troll xD

That's it I'm bad at modding above 5 stars, so GL

!! Nice map and these hitsounds are nice and give me deaf

Lasse

osu! Alumni

3,644 posts

Joined June 2011

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Lasse 2015-09-23T19:59:49+00:00

Kalibe wrote:
Yep, M4M

[Normal]

00:21:582 (2,3) - correct blanket fixed
00:37:371 (3,4,5,6) - maybe 1/2 sliders? this is hard for new players those are just two 190bpm 1/2s with more than a beat break inbetween and spacing makes them easy to tap or even alternate
00:46:845 (3,4) - symmetry changed a bit
01:15:266 (3,4) - little ugly for me :/ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3716542 ? changed a bit
01:23:792 (4,1) - blanket made symmetrical instead

[Advanced]

CS = 3,5 HP = 5 (why 4) ? :/ HP4 cause normal = 3 and hard = 5 also the blankets etc. are made with 3.4 in mind so changing it now woulld mess it up. ALso the gap between N-A-H-Light Insane is 0.2 cs each

00:11:476 (3,4,5,6) - i prefer to normal DS Normal DS would make this a diffspike where I don't want one and stacking would look bad here imo, this is fine
00:13:371 (1) - delete NC and put NC here 00:13:687 (2) - Why should I nc the vocals? I'm using NC for downbeats, not having NC here would be really weird
00:46:213 (1,2) - hmmm... It looks awkward for me It's intuitive to paly as long as one follow the slider at least halfway through

btw. Nice Advanced to learn single tap for Hard players

[Hard]

AR = 8 OD = 6 nothing else, good OD 6 is too low, also the Advanced is already OD6 and the OD Jump from Hard -> Light Insane would be too big
I think An AR slightly above 8 goes well with the slightly above average BPM of the song

[Light Insane]

CS = 4 OD = 7,5 or 8 7.7 fits nicely between 7 (Hard) and 8.5 (Insane) as for the CS, see above and I really like 3.8 on this

00:07:055 (4,1) - overlapped? 2+ beats @190bpm apart, not noticeable during Gameplay, probably not even with EZ
00:20:003 (3,4,5) - fix space pls this is weird Huh, this is a pretty common pattern (smaller jump on weak beat, bigger on strong beat) and it's really nice to play, really helps to emphasize 00:19:687 (1,3) -
01:27:424 (1,2,3) - so troll xD

That's it I'm bad at modding above 5 stars, so GL !! Nice map and these hitsounds are nice and give me deaf

thanks

Okoayu

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Okoayu 2015-09-25T12:23:46+00:00

I usually don't turn off hitsounds but uhh
the constant ticking hitnormal on all notes destroys my mind

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-09-25T13:59:45+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
I usually don't turn off hitsounds but uhh
the constant ticking hitnormal on all notes destroys my mind

Ugh, so far nobody complained about them and I used them in my personal skin for some time and liked them.

But I'm open to change the soft-hitnormal if needed/provided a "better" one that still fits, feel free to suggest one and I'll try it out

Cherry Blossom

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Cherry Blossom 2015-09-25T17:12:33+00:00

Hello from my queue, sorry for delay, I was really busy.
Please, reply to this mod and tell me why you didn't change without saying "it's my style" or "there are already ranked maps with the same kind of pattern" or other reasons like this.

Easy

00:07:687 (1) - Here you can add a reverse on this slider to give a constant rhythm, I guess it is more intuitive to play a constant 1/1 rhythm instead of a 2/1 and 1/1. It works well, you can try it.
00:18:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This rhythm is really confusing, you're following instruments with 00:18:424 (1,2,3) - especially with those 2 sliders, but you just skipped the strongest note here 00:20:950 - that should be followed or clicked. If you want to follow the "ayy"s , just do it on the whole pattern, i mean don't skip notes like 00:18:740 -. This current pattern is confusing. This pattern is fine : 00:33:582 (1,2,3,4,1) -

Normal

00:17:476 - This note is enough strong and could be important, so it could be better if you make this tick clicked or followed by a sliderend for a better impression.
00:50:003 (4) - This reversed 1/2 slider could be avoided because there is nothing really strong on the red tick, this is not a Hard or Insane diff, this is just a Normal diff and if you want to add more density with 1/2, just do it on powerful notes (like vocals) on red ticks.

Advanced

00:51:108 - If you want to follow vocal during this whole section, add a circle here to keep the consistency with rhythm as you did here 00:49:687 (4,5,1) - or here 00:54:740 (3,1) -

Hard

00:15:897 (1,2) - I don't really think that 2 reversed 1/2 sliders are suitable for what you can hear, it could be better if you use 1/1 circles or a 1/2 slider followed by a circle, that works better. Same for 00:20:950 (1,2) -
00:33:266 (1) - I'd say no, you don't really have a valid reason to use a 3/4 slider here, the vocal clearly ends on the red tick, and you just skipped it. There is nothing audible on the blue tick, and if you're going to say that you're emphasizing vocal here, that won't be a valid reason.
00:51:108 - Here there is an important note that should be folowed or clicked, because you almost followed all vocal notes before and after maybe, and that sounds weird that you didn't do it here, it sounds empty.

Light Insane

00:40:529 (4,5,6,7,1,2) - There should be a little more distance between each circles to make this pattern more airy for the sake of visual. (I mean, the circle are close to be overlapped, more distance between them make them better to see)

Insane

00:38:950 (3,4,5) - It looks a little weird that there is like an antijump here 00:39:108 (4,5) - and that makes these circles a little uncomfortable to play because the angle between 00:38:950 (3,4,5) - is near to 180° and a smaller distance between 00:39:108 (4,5) - doesn't really help, the player needs much aim to be able to handle this pattern. If you really want to keep the antijump, just change the angle and move 00:39:266 (5) - downward in order to reduce the angle and make this pattern more comfortable to play.
00:48:897 (2) - Here i didn't get why there is a spacing difference and especially a smaller between 00:48:897 (2,3) - . If you were following and emphasizing vocals, there would be a higher distance between 00:48:897 (2,3) - . If you don't want to emphasize anything, just keep and equal distance between objects as you did here 00:49:845 (2) -

A's Pace

00:02:634 (1,2,3,4,5) - No, and no. There is clearly nothing audible on blue ticks, and these 1/4 sliders are overdone, you don't really have any reason to use 1/4 sliders when 1/2 circles are just enough. A slider should start and end on something audible, same for other 1/4 sliders like this.
00:17:161 (5,6) - This is a "no" too, I don't really understand why you used reversed 1/8 sliders here excepted if you want to follow nothing, but following nothing with objects like this are not recommended at all, and even unrankable. Just avoid it. Same for 00:22:213 (1,2) -
00:20:318 (4,5,6,7,1) - This pattern is weird to play, there are long jumps before and the "small" distance between 00:20:634 (6,7) - is quite surprising, it looks like you didn't have enough space to manage. It makes this pattern weird in terms of gameplay, and you should make this pattern more airy to respect "consistency" with other patterns, i mean the long distance between objects you always used before. So, there should be a higher distance between 00:20:634 (6,7) -
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRW8EGbdfLA
00:31:687 (1,2) - This 3/4 slider is weird because you skipped a strong note here 00:31:845 -, and i don't really think using a 3/4 slider in order to follow vocal is a good idea when you have something strong the on the red tick you skipped. It could be better if you make this tick 00:31:845 - followed or clicked.
00:44:318 (4,5) - This could be considered as a readability issue because the gap between these objects is 1/2 and visually the distance is the same as 00:43:687 (1,2) - or 00:44:950 (1,2) - and that could be really confusing. You may have troubles with the QAT with it (I already saw a lot of things like this DQed). There should be more distance between 00:44:318 (4,5) -

Good luck ~

Edit :

Lasse wrote:
Okoratu wrote:
I usually don't turn off hitsounds but uhh
the constant ticking hitnormal on all notes destroys my mind
Ugh, so far nobody complained about them and I used them in my personal skin for some time and liked them.

But I'm open to change the soft-hitnormal if needed/provided a "better" one that still fits, feel free to suggest one and I'll try it out

When i was modding, i just turned volume off because these hitsounds were too noisy (and i don't usually mod hitsounds).

Lasse

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Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-09-25T18:39:09+00:00

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Hello from my queue, sorry for delay, I was really busy.
Please, reply to this mod and tell me why you didn't change without saying "it's my style" or "there are already ranked maps with the same kind of pattern" or other reasons like this.

Easy
00:07:687 (1) - Here you can add a reverse on this slider to give a constant rhythm, I guess it is more intuitive to play a constant 1/1 rhythm instead of a 2/1 and 1/1. It works well, you can try it. Yeah, that seems nice, added reverse and modified 1 accordingly to keep ds
00:18:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This rhythm is really confusing, you're following instruments with 00:18:424 (1,2,3) - especially with those 2 sliders, but you just skipped the strongest note here 00:20:950 - that should be followed or clicked. If you want to follow the "ayy"s , just do it on the whole pattern, i mean don't skip notes like 00:18:740 -. This current pattern is confusing. This pattern is fine : 00:33:582 (1,2,3,4,1) - I wondered why this felt a bit strange to play, fixed by using the same rhythm as 00:33:582 (1,2,3,4,1)

Normal
00:17:476 - This note is enough strong and could be important, so it could be better if you make this tick clicked or followed by a sliderend for a better impression. I added a note, doesn't really make it harder and fits well
00:50:003 (4) - This reversed 1/2 slider could be avoided because there is nothing really strong on the red tick, this is not a Hard or Insane diff, this is just a Normal diff and if you want to add more density with 1/2, just do it on powerful notes (like vocals) on red ticks.makes sense, they are now 1/1 slider instead of rep 1/2, also made it look a bit nicer

Advanced
00:51:108 - If you want to follow vocal during this whole section, add a circle here to keep the consistency with rhythm as you did here 00:49:687 (4,5,1) - or here 00:54:740 (3,1) - Adding a note or slidierend here feels off to me, sure there vocal that is held from 00:50:950 (4) - would kinda fir with it, but ther other two you mentioned actually have their own syllables on the red tick, while this is just held from before.
00:49:845 (5) - => ki
00:54:897 sliderend => wa
but 00:51:108 => held ai~ from 00:50:950 (4) -
So I don't think a note here would be necessary

Hard
00:15:897 (1,2) - I don't really think that 2 reversed 1/2 sliders are suitable for what you can hear, it could be better if you use 1/1 circles or a 1/2 slider followed by a circle, that works better. Same for 00:20:950 (1,2) - okay, seems fine => made both 1/1 sliders
00:33:266 (1) - I'd say no, you don't really have a valid reason to use a 3/4 slider here, the vocal clearly ends on the red tick, and you just skipped it. There is nothing audible on the blue tick, and if you're going to say that you're emphasizing vocal here, that won't be a valid reason. fair enough, cut off the last part of the slider and made 1/2
00:51:108 - Here there is an important note that should be folowed or clicked, because you almost followed all vocal notes before and after maybe, and that sounds weird that you didn't do it here, it sounds empty.added a note here and on 00:50:476 (3) - because having it only on one of them feels really weird

Light Insane
00:40:529 (4,5,6,7,1,2) - There should be a little more distance between each circles to make this pattern more airy for the sake of visual. (I mean, the circle are close to be overlapped, more distance between them make them better to see) Sure, increased to ~1,9x

Insane
00:38:950 (3,4,5) - It looks a little weird that there is like an antijump here 00:39:108 (4,5) - and that makes these circles a little uncomfortable to play because the angle between 00:38:950 (3,4,5) - is near to 180° and a smaller distance between 00:39:108 (4,5) - doesn't really help, the player needs much aim to be able to handle this pattern. If you really want to keep the antijump, just change the angle and move 00:39:266 (5) - downward in order to reduce the angle and make this pattern more comfortable to play.
Ugh, seems like I hit ctrl-g on that slider and didn't notice, changed this a little to remove the antijump and make the angles better
00:48:897 (2) - Here i didn't get why there is a spacing difference and especially a smaller between 00:48:897 (2,3) - . If you were following and emphasizing vocals, there would be a higher distance between 00:48:897 (2,3) - . If you don't want to emphasize anything, just keep and equal distance between objects as you did here 00:49:845 (2) - makes sense, snapped whole combo to 1.7x and improved some angles

Good luck ~

Edit :
Lasse wrote:
You may embed only 2 quotes within each other.

When i was modding, i just turned volume off because these hitsounds were too noisy (and i don't usually mod hitsounds).
I replaced the sof-hitnormal with a different one for now that seems to go fine with the song and the hitsound additions while also nicely contrasting the drum-hitnormal used occasionally

thanks for that mod, really improved some rhythm and spacing aspects

redownload for changed soft-hitnormal

Avishay

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Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-09-25T20:35:38+00:00

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Hello from my queue, sorry for delay, I was really busy.
Please, reply to this mod and tell me why you didn't change without saying "it's my style" or "there are already ranked maps with the same kind of pattern" or other reasons like this.

A's Pace
00:02:634 (1,2,3,4,5) - No, and no. There is clearly nothing audible on blue ticks, and these 1/4 sliders are overdone, you don't really have any reason to use 1/4 sliders when 1/2 circles are just enough. A slider should start and end on something audible, same for other 1/4 sliders like this.
00:17:161 (5,6) - This is a "no" too, I don't really understand why you used reversed 1/8 sliders here excepted if you want to follow nothing, but following nothing with objects like this are not recommended at all, and even unrankable. Just avoid it. Same for 00:22:213 (1,2) -
00:20:318 (4,5,6,7,1) - This pattern is weird to play, there are long jumps before and the "small" distance between 00:20:634 (6,7) - is quite surprising, it looks like you didn't have enough space to manage. It makes this pattern weird in terms of gameplay, and you should make this pattern more airy to respect "consistency" with other patterns, i mean the long distance between objects you always used before. So, there should be a higher distance between 00:20:634 (6,7) -
00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRW8EGbdfLA k thx. Honesetly this plays great and I like this pattern, the spacing is not huge and you're overexaggerating (just like charles in thie video), you can play it as a regular stream but it feels much better.
00:31:687 (1,2) - This 3/4 slider is weird because you skipped a strong note here 00:31:845 -, and i don't really think using a 3/4 slider in order to follow vocal is a good idea when you have something strong the on the red tick you skipped. It could be better if you make this tick 00:31:845 - followed or clicked.
00:44:318 (4,5) - This could be considered as a readability issue because the gap between these objects is 1/2 and visually the distance is the same as 00:43:687 (1,2) - or 00:44:950 (1,2) - and that could be really confusing. You may have troubles with the QAT with it (I already saw a lot of things like this DQed). There should be more distance between 00:44:318 (4,5) -

Eveyrthing else changed, even the stuff I was stubborn about, I want to avoid as many problems as possible and I guess the patterns would fit better somehwer else.

Some patterns self changed as well, just because I got tired of seeing them.

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Milan-

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Milan- 2015-10-11T03:07:35+00:00

easy
-in the lowest difficulty we always try to avoid these 00:02:634 (1) - kind of sliders, the ones with ambiguous sliderpath. You should do the same
-actually i recommend you to use 1.1x spacing instead. 1x makes everything looks so close that makes patterns be confusing to play
-00:20:003 (4,6) - these kind of thing makes the map look unpolished, try to avoid them so the map looks neater
-00:22:529 (7,1) - i'd prefer if you have a better flow between these. Using dropoff kinda thing at this level doesnt seem to be right imo
-00:56:318 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - so here you're mapping the instruments but here 00:35:161 (4,1,2,3) - and similar you decided to map vocals instead. it's better to keep mapping 1 track or be as constant as possible when it comes to rhythms-

normal
-00:03:266 (1) - nc doesnt seem neccesary
-00:10:213 (4) - i'd ctrl g and arrange it so it's easier to read, right now 00:09:582 (3,4,1) - is pretty ambiguous.
-00:35:161 (3,1) - what i already said 00:59:792 (4,2) -
-01:21:582 - ithink you should map this. it's basically the same as 00:13:371 - or any other
-you may want to re look to your nc'ng

advanced
-01:00:740 (1) - probably works better as 2 1/4 repeaters like other places. Since rhythm is already done before and it's easier to catch, also sounds better that way
-i think you should nerf sections where you spam 1/2 rhythms with no 1/1 at all. Merge some sliders and stuff so it actually looks like an advanced rhythmically

hard
-not much to say tbh, just that similar to adv, you could nerf some rhythm. Try to not go up 3-4 circles for example. Players at this level are just starting to singletapping

light sane
-00:17:161 (1) - rhythm used in insane or hard is way better than this tbh. 00:31:687 (3) -
-00:17:792 (1,1) - distance is pretty annoying to play, you use extended slider right before so using antijump kinda thing is awkward to play
-00:19:055 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this kind of distance usage makes the map looks random in general. Places where you use multiples distances for the same rhythm. 00:34:213 (1,2,3,1,2) - and others similars
-00:48:424 (5,1) - everyone will think these are 1/4 apart nowadays. use a more normal distance
-using different kind of sliders shapes may look cool to you but in general, when you overuse them it tends to make the map look very unpolished cuz inconsistency. try to avoid that as well

insane
-00:22:529 (2) - i'd make it a 1/2 slider instead so the momentum towards the stream isn't lost.
-00:38:950 (3,4,5,6,7) - flow is pretty sharp here, you should realize it yourself just by moving the cursor
-01:08:003 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^ . For example try ctrl'g'ng 01:08:318 (3,4) - and see how circular flow works here, then try to improve it even more by caring about the constancy in your distance
-similar comments from light sane should apply here too

gonna skip a's diff cuz im gay
gl <3

Avishay

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Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-10-11T04:21:43+00:00

^ You like me very much don't you.

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-10-11T10:04:25+00:00

Milan- wrote:
easy
-in the lowest difficulty we always try to avoid these 00:02:634 (1) - kind of sliders, the ones with ambiguous sliderpath. You should do the same
I think those are fine, they are really long because of the music they are mapped to and making the ma simple shape would be really boring, the low SV combined with slider leniency makes them really hard to break on, even for new players
-actually i recommend you to use 1.1x spacing instead. 1x makes everything looks so close that makes patterns be confusing to play
-00:20:003 (4,6) - these kind of thing makes the map look unpolished, try to avoid them so the map looks neater I already increased the spacing and further increasing it would make it too hard for an easy, considering the high bpm
-00:22:529 (7,1) - i'd prefer if you have a better flow between these. Using dropoff kinda thing at this level doesnt seem to be right imo It might look like that at first glance, but the leniency + being some beats apart makes it still playable like this:
http://i.imgur.com/qvfTQcY.png
-00:56:318 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - so here you're mapping the instruments but here 00:35:161 (4,1,2,3) - and similar you decided to map vocals instead. it's better to keep mapping 1 track or be as constant as possible when it comes to rhythms- I think the slow singletaps make the transition to instruments easily understandable, even for newer players. Also mapping instruments here and vocals+instruments before feels more sensible to me looking at the how the vocals are for both parts. Mapping the latter part to the vocals become really weird on an easy diff.

normal
-00:03:266 (1) - nc doesnt seem neccesary Was a mistake, removed
-00:10:213 (4) - i'd ctrl g and arrange it so it's easier to read, right now 00:09:582 (3,4,1) - is pretty ambiguous. Considering that a people with either stay at the start of the repeating sldiers the whole time or follow it completely (whic hare both the most common ways to play those) 3-4-1 becomes a rather simple zigzag, should not be problematic to play or read
-00:35:161 (3,1) - what i already said 00:59:792 (4,2) - Like mentioned on for the easy it goes way better with the song this way while keeping the difficulty on a reasonable level and the playability is still fine
-01:21:582 - ithink you should map this. it's basically the same as 00:13:371 - or any other the way it is right now makes the transition to vocals much clearer, adding a note here plays worse
-you may want to re look to your nc'ng looked throughh the whole map and fixed some nc

advanced
-01:00:740 (1) - probably works better as 2 1/4 repeaters like other places. Since rhythm is already done before and it's easier to catch, also sounds better that way idk, 00:48:108 (3,4) - and the other drumroll both sound way different than this one, so I think mapping them differently is fine here. Also I think the current one build more "pressure" than the others which nicely leads into the very energetic kiai time
-i think you should nerf sections where you spam 1/2 rhythms with no 1/1 at all. Merge some sliders and stuff so it actually looks like an advanced rhythmically
There are only like 4 parts where 4 notes of 1/2 in a row happen and only two of them are actually spaced and not stacked. I think having those keeps it still fine to play for an advanced and make a nice introduction to high-ish bpm singletpas and the simple pattern and spacing make the, also easily possible to alternate so palyers who lack the speed/stamin can still play it

hard
-not much to say tbh, just that similar to adv, you could nerf some rhythm. Try to not go up 3-4 circles for example. Players at this level are just starting to singletapping that's why there is an advanced, to allow me using a bit higher sv and some slighly longer singletap sequences for this diff. I someone can't play this diff they can play the slightly easier Advanced without getting bored and practice their tapping

light sane
-00:17:161 (1) - rhythm used in insane or hard is way better than this tbh. 00:31:687 (3) - First one: hard is vocals + instrument while this diff is vocals only (can't really put a 3/4 slider on a hard imo) for both: I think they go really well with the vocals on those parts
-00:17:792 (1,1) - distance is pretty annoying to play, you use extended slider right before so using antijump kinda thing is awkward to play 00:17:161 (1,1,1) - is spaced 0.5 -> 0.6 so that doesnt seem that weird and the transition to larger spacing 00:18:424 (1,2,3,4,5) - is rather easy with nc and the change in music
-00:19:055 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this kind of distance usage makes the map looks random in general. Places where you use multiples distances for the same rhythm. 00:34:213 (1,2,3,1,2) - and others similars I think the ds changes on those make sense considering the changes in emphasis of the music etc. and they don't feels weird to read/play or anything
-00:48:424 (5,1) - everyone will think these are 1/4 apart nowadays. use a more normal distance
the distance of the stream itself (.5) is fine, but I changed the part before slightly and respaced the beat before to make the transition better to read
-using different kind of sliders shapes may look cool to you but in general, when you overuse them it tends to make the map look very unpolished cuz inconsistency. try to avoid that as well as long as those sliders look polished it should be fine, epscially with such vocal heavy mapping since these go really well with the vocals.

insane
-00:22:529 (2) - i'd make it a 1/2 slider instead so the momentum towards the stream isn't lost. I think it plays nice the way it is, especially with the movement of the sldier being like 00:22:371 (1,2) - just curved, the little drop in momentum before the sldier emphasizes it way better in my opinion
-00:38:950 (3,4,5,6,7) - flow is pretty sharp here, you should realize it yourself just by moving the cursor Ok, I changed this to nicer angles with the same spacing and a completely clockwise flow, should play way better now
-01:08:003 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^ . For example try ctrl'g'ng 01:08:318 (3,4) - and see how circular flow works here, then try to improve it even more by caring about the constancy in your distance Yeah, I remapped this to alternating 1.5 - 2.0 spacing going with the vocals and made it a nice counterclockwise flow like 01:07:687 (1,2) - suggest
-similar comments from light sane should apply here too fixed some minor stuff

gonna skip a's diff cuz im gay
gl <3

thanks

Come[Back]Home

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Come[Back]Home 2015-10-11T18:24:27+00:00

Easy

00:14:950 (4) This slider looks weird as it is. Maybe you should redo it? Like this
00:20:003 (4,6) They are touching which can be seen when you play the map. Please fix it. Looks weird
00:51:266 (1,2) A normal curvy slider would look way better than those weird shaped sliders
01:00:108 (3) This one should end here 01:00:740

Normal

00:04:055 (3,4) Do they really have to overlap that strongly? I dont suggest this, looks really weird
00:06:582 (3,4) ^
00:15:897 (1,2) Blank them? Would look better
00:23:792 (2,4) They are nearly touching
00:35:161 (3,1) Bad overlap
00:40:529 (6) Slider has a weird shape
00:42:424 (4) Shape can be improved
00:59:792 (4,2) Dont do this in a Normal
01:14:003 (1,2) They are nearly touching

Advanced

00:11:476 (3,4,5,6) This is kinda unexpected in an Advanced, use normal ds please
00:32:950 (4,1) Pretty close
00:46:371 (2,5) Bad overlap
01:00:740 (1) This one should stop here 01:01:055
01:10:845 (7) ^ 01:11:161

Hard

AR 8 please
00:38:003 (1,2) Delete NC
00:42:582 (1,2,3,4) Why the different DS?
01:00:740 (1) Same as in Advanced

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-10-11T19:21:40+00:00

Come[Back]Home wrote:
Easy

00:14:950 (4) This slider looks weird as it is. Maybe you should redo it? Like this changed shape
00:20:003 (4,6) They are touching which can be seen when you play the map. Please fix it. Looks weird blanketed
00:51:266 (1,2) A normal curvy slider would look way better than those weird shaped sliders since so many people dislike those I changed them finally
01:00:108 (3) This one should end here 01:00:740 I think would fit either way, the drawn out "go" vocal ends on 01:00:897 so it seems fine the way it is

Normal

00:04:055 (3,4) Do they really have to overlap that strongly? I dont suggest this, looks really weird dont really see a problem with those
00:06:582 (3,4) ^
00:15:897 (1,2) Blank them? Would look better slightly changed
00:23:792 (2,4) They are nearly touching But only nearly and they are far enough apart time wise
00:35:161 (3,1) Bad overlap changed this part
00:40:529 (6) Slider has a weird shape changed
00:42:424 (4) Shape can be improved slightly more symmetric
00:59:792 (4,2) Dont do this in a Normal even with snaking sliders enabled, the full slider is already drawn at 00:59:792, together with the NC and the spacing it is way easier to read and more intuitive to play than it looks in the editor
01:14:003 (1,2) They are nearly touching slightly chanegd + made them actually the same shape

Advanced

00:11:476 (3,4,5,6) This is kinda unexpected in an Advanced, use normal ds please Normal DS would make it to hard but there should really be singletaps for the vocals here, so this is the most sensible solution for an advanced diff. It's fine to read, there are already a few stacked singletaps before so the player shouldn't expect this to be 1/4 or anything
00:32:950 (4,1) Pretty close Not overlapping + time distance with ar7
00:46:371 (2,5) Bad overlap changed a bit
01:00:740 (1) This one should stop here 01:01:055 While I agree that it might feels slightly "overmapped" it really helps to build some "pressure" for a better lead into the kiai, also it's only a held repeat slider, not like I put a stream on "nearly nothing"
01:10:845 (7) ^ 01:11:161 continuing from the last one, there also is at least something on 01:10:845 to 01:11:318, so it doens't really feel overmapped

Hard

AR 8 please fine
00:38:003 (1,2) Delete NC k
00:42:582 (1,2,3,4) Why the different DS? leads into lower ds part that follows after
01:00:740 (1) Same as in Advanced see advanced for reasoning

thanks for your time

Shushan

627 posts

Joined November 2013

Shushan 2015-10-12T20:50:38+00:00

avishay's m4m Q
well
[easy]
00:37:055 (2,3) - blanket a bit off tbh
00:48:108 (3,1) - ^^
01:05:161 (1,2) - switch nc?
01:07:687 (1,2) - ^^
[normal]
00:09:582 (3) - nc
00:11:476 (3,4) - this http://prntscr.com/8qlj1j will be neater imo
00:15:897 (1,2) - fix blanket
00:25:371 (6,1) - make them the same
00:39:266 (3,4) - fix blanket
00:59:792 (4,2) - overlap
01:07:687 (5) - nc?
this diff is very different from easy diff (and afaik it's not a gd) and it's because you kept in your mind that you can move to 1/4 slider and circles and stuff, but you forgot about pattering things and overall this diff doesn't look neat for me, try rethinking about patterns here and don't just make random 1/4 sliders.
[advanced]
00:25:371 (3,4) - fix blanket
00:26:634 (4,1) - ^^
00:27:582 (4,5) - ^^
pls remake the blankets here and there since they are not the best in this diff, no power to mention everyone of them sorry :/
00:30:740 (5,4) - stack?
same here about normal - try pattern more things and don't use spaced triplets it's weird in hard diff's.
[hard]
fix blanket here too
00:26:950 (1,2) - switch nc
00:33:266 (1) - make this a Straight slider it's not fitting here
00:41:476 (3,4,5) - make them the same sliders
00:45:582 (4,5) - too curvy and weird imo
00:48:740 (1,2,3) - why are you using different sliders? it just doesn't look good.
same here imo - your diff is just not neat in the eye, make it look nicer, take a look at other maps too give you patterns you like and stuff.
[light insane]
00:22:845 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - make it in Further, a lot further, it just doesn't play well
same things tbh - make more patterns, make less overlaps, make a lot of things in the same DS and stuff, use same sliders,fix blankets.
[insane]
00:12:266 (1,2,3) - same sliders...
00:22:529 (2) - make this a 1/2 slider
00:28:213 (1) - this is ugly imo
fix blankets
this diff is actually pretty good, off course it can be maid better if you apply the things i said earlier, but it's good.

[avishay]
00:28:213 (1) - ctrl g?
00:29:476 (1,3) - switch nc?
00:49:055 (3,4) - fix blanket
00:50:318 (2,3) - ^^
00:53:318 (6,7,8) - the triple is stopping the flow imo so try this mb? http://prntscr.com/8qlxhe
01:03:424 (4,5) - ctrl g?
01:15:740 (4) - looks pretty bad imo ~~fix it somehow i'm too lazy too try~~ try this http://prntscr.com/8qlz0v
good as always

gl with the map!

Lasse

osu! Alumni

3,644 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-10-13T15:16:07+00:00

ohad1881 wrote:
avishay's m4m Q
well

[easy]
00:37:055 (2,3) - blanket a bit off tbh fixed
00:48:108 (3,1) - ^^ fixed
01:05:161 (1,2) - switch nc?
01:07:687 (1,2) - ^^
better this way

[normal]
00:09:582 (3) - nc goes better with the musi this way, also the combo before would look weird with only 2 notes
00:11:476 (3,4) - this http://prntscr.com/8qlj1j will be neater imo current one is easier to follow, imo better for a normal
00:15:897 (1,2) - fix blanket fixed
00:25:371 (6,1) - make them the same new combo -> slightly different shape
00:39:266 (3,4) - fix blanket fixed
00:59:792 (4,2) - overlap changed this part
01:07:687 (5) - nc? k
this diff is very different from easy diff (and afaik it's not a gd) and it's because you kept in your mind that you can move to 1/4 slider and circles and stuff, but you forgot about pattering things and overall this diff doesn't look neat for me, try rethinking about patterns here and don't just make random 1/4 sliders.

[advanced]
00:25:371 (3,4) - fix blanket
00:26:634 (4,1) - ^^
00:27:582 (4,5) - ^^
pls remake the blankets here and there since they are not the best in this diff, no power to mention everyone of them sorry :/
fixed/changed some blankets
00:30:740 (5,4) - stack? don't see a reason and it would mess 00:31:687 (3,4,1) - up
same here about normal - try pattern more things and don't use spaced triplets it's weird in hard diff's.
[hard]
fix blanket here too
00:26:950 (1,2) - switch nc k
00:33:266 (1) - make this a Straight slider it's not fitting here fits well with vocal
00:41:476 (3,4,5) - make them the same sliders I think this looks nice
00:45:582 (4,5) - too curvy and weird imo don't think so
00:48:740 (1,2,3) - why are you using different sliders? it just doesn't look good. changed those
same here imo - your diff is just not neat in the eye, make it look nicer, take a look at other maps too give you patterns you like and stuff.
[light insane]
00:22:845 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - make it in Further, a lot further, it just doesn't play well I don't see any problem with this stream, also higher spacing would make it harder and that's not what I want to put on a Light Insane
same things tbh - make more patterns, make less overlaps, make a lot of things in the same DS and stuff, use same sliders,fix blankets.
[insane]
00:12:266 (1,2,3) - same sliders... this is 3x the same sldier just rotated 120° already?
00:22:529 (2) - make this a 1/2 slider I used 1/2 taps for the other emphasized 1/2 drum beats, so it should be used here too
00:28:213 (1) - this is ugly imo seems fine
fix blankets
this diff is actually pretty good, off course it can be maid better if you apply the things i said earlier, but it's good.

gl with the map!

thanks for the help

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-10-17T18:23:09+00:00

Forgot to reply, I hope you don't mind I am not responding to everything, I have accepted only the 2nd and 3rd notes, also, I remapped some parts, because god damnit the more I watch / play the map, the more I start to hate some patterns lmao..

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204,340,86161,2,0,P|120:332|72:312,1,122.5,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
330,11,86476,5,8,3:0:0:0:
128,232,86634,2,0,B|83:233|83:233|44:248|8:254,1,122.5,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,11,86950,5,8,3:0:0:0:
384,232,87108,2,0,B|428:233|428:233|468:248|503:254,1,122.5,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
451,38,87424,6,0,L|256:31,1,196,8|8,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
96,64,87740,6,0,B|80:128|112:180|112:180|152:144|148:96,1,196,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:

-Kupo-

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-Kupo- 2015-10-17T22:39:40+00:00

M4M from Lasse's Queue (post p/4594770/ )
\o/ Itsumo MIRAKURU \o/

Easy

Map is fine, I'll just QQ about alignment lol..
00:08:950 (2) - Maybe a straight line down from slider ( x:16 y:356 )
00:10:845 (1,2) - Maybe align them so they are "in line" (First slider ending point @ x:404 y:256 , 2nd slider @ x:392 y:192)
00:13:687 (2) - Move to x:176 y:92
00:13:687 (2,3) - Feel that a blanket would fit in with these. Alignment: Slider-endpoint @ x:168 y:248 and put the circle at x:136 y:168 (this gets a little bit tight so maybe change slider if it's too tight)
00:18:424 (1,2) - Blanket
00:19:687 (3,4) - Blanket (sorry but I you can get some nice cursor movement from blanketing these which fits with vocals

)
00:28:213 (3) - Move to x:276 y:112
00:28:529 (1) - Move to x:352 y:88
00:33:266 (3,1,2) - Perfect symmetry between these maybe. (3 @ x:304 y:192, 1 @ x:256 y:128, 2 @ x:208 y:192)
00:40:529 (3) - Straighter line if put at x:132 y:24

Normal

Most likely more of the same as in easy
00:17:792 (5) - Move to x:364 y:104 , looks neater.
00:25:056 (5) - Move to x:236 y:60 if u want straight line.
00:31:687 (3) - Move to x:232 y:312, neat
01:23:792 (4,5,6) - Dno why but I really crave the sliders to be symmetrical around the circle, not a big deal tho (as if any of this is..)

Advanced

Sorry, more coordinates (I'll make a system here, if it's just coordinates with no text it just looks slightly better at that position, nothing more)
00:06:266 (5) - x:260 y:312
00:24:424 (5) - Slider-endpoint to x:228 y:40 (in line with next circle)
00:27:424 (3) - x:308 y:176, more symmetry
00:28:845 (2) - x:124 y:288 | 00:29:003 (3) - x:92 y:216 | 00:29:161 (4) - x:108 y:140 ; better curve between the notes.
00:31:687 (3) - Slider-endpoint to x:192 y:232 | 00:32:161 (4) - x:320 y:172 ; less crooked path

Hard

General: Feels like too many circles, plays fine tho but could maybe make some sliders or different patterns which match the back and forth of the vocals (vague I know >.< )
00:12:266 (1,2,3) - Might be wrong but these are mapped to the "transition" sound in the song, maybe a whistle hitsound would be appropriate?
01:02:634 (1,2) - Maybe change here to be similar to 01:01:371 (1,2,3) - where the same vocal part occurs (making changes to the rest accordingly)

Light Insane

00:48:108 (1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe have the reverse slider 1 more 1/4 (replacing 4 in combo) ending with a "triplet-slider" on odd number forces you to end stream on your starting finger which might be uncomfortable for some (me included D: ) Works apart from that tho.
01:01:371 (1) - Difference in spacing intentional? If not might wanna move it. (This could also be my eyes playing tricks and it's same spacing ..)

Insane

00:28:213 (1) - Hitsound is too loud imo
00:53:397 (5) - Can't find any sound this is snapped to in the song.

A's Pace

Looks and plays fine ^^ (except 00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - But I have a hard time with stuff like that in general so no big deal lol)

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-10-18T09:33:09+00:00

Kupopo wrote:
M4M from Lasse's Queue (post p/4594770/ )
\o/ Itsumo MIRAKURU \o/

Easy
Map is fine, I'll just QQ about alignment lol..
00:08:950 (2) - Maybe a straight line down from slider ( x:16 y:356 ) current has an overall better angle
00:10:845 (1,2) - Maybe align them so they are "in line" (First slider ending point @ x:404 y:256 , 2nd slider @ x:392 y:192) currenlty 2 continues the shape of one fine
00:13:687 (2) - Move to x:176 y:92 done
00:13:687 (2,3) - Feel that a blanket would fit in with these. Alignment: Slider-endpoint @ x:168 y:248 and put the circle at x:136 y:168 (this gets a little bit tight so maybe change slider if it's too tight) made 2end/4start blanket
00:18:424 (1,2) - Blanket impossible while keeping ds
00:19:687 (3,4) - Blanket (sorry but I you can get some nice cursor movement from blanketing these which fits with vocals ) 00:20:003 (4,6) - blanket is enough
00:28:213 (3) - Move to x:276 y:112 better angle right now
00:28:529 (1) - Move to x:352 y:88 better angle right now
00:33:266 (3,1,2) - Perfect symmetry between these maybe. (3 @ x:304 y:192, 1 @ x:256 y:128, 2 @ x:208 y:192) slightly changed
00:40:529 (3) - Straighter line if put at x:132 y:24 like the current angle and flow better
Normal
Most likely more of the same as in easy
00:17:792 (5) - Move to x:364 y:104 , looks neater. slightly moved
00:25:056 (5) - Move to x:236 y:60 if u want straight line. slightly moved
00:31:687 (3) - Move to x:232 y:312, neat think the current one flows better
01:23:792 (4,5,6) - Dno why but I really crave the sliders to be symmetrical around the circle, not a big deal tho (as if any of this is..)Whole diff is snapped to 1.1x so breaking it here would be worse than some asymmetry I suppose
Advanced
Sorry, more coordinates (I'll make a system here, if it's just coordinates with no text it just looks slightly better at that position, nothing more)
00:06:266 (5) - x:260 y:312 slightly moved
00:24:424 (5) - Slider-endpoint to x:228 y:40 (in line with next circle) current one feels better
00:27:424 (3) - x:308 y:176, more symmetry slightly moved
00:28:845 (2) - x:124 y:288 | 00:29:003 (3) - x:92 y:216 | 00:29:161 (4) - x:108 y:140 ; better curve between the notes. current one feels better
00:31:687 (3) - Slider-endpoint to x:192 y:232 | 00:32:161 (4) - x:320 y:172 ; less crooked path current one feels better
Hard
General: Feels like too many circles, plays fine tho but could maybe make some sliders or different patterns which match the back and forth of the vocals (vague I know >.< ) The amount of circxles makes for a nicer spread: Advanced(148) => Hard(198) =>Light Insane(256)
00:12:266 (1,2,3) - Might be wrong but these are mapped to the "transition" sound in the song, maybe a whistle hitsound would be appropriate? Huh? I,m already using normal-soft-normal hitwhistle for the sliderheads
01:02:634 (1,2) - Maybe change here to be similar to 01:01:371 (1,2,3) - where the same vocal part occurs (making changes to the rest accordingly) I think having it likes this brings much more variety and the music also allows for it. At the point where people can play 3.5* Hards decently they can handle slight changes in patterns for the music just fine
Light Insane
00:48:108 (1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe have the reverse slider 1 more 1/4 (replacing 4 in combo) ending with a "triplet-slider" on odd number forces you to end stream on your starting finger which might be uncomfortable for some (me included D: ) Works apart from that tho.
Huh? Right now it's played like a quint burst, which seems way more comfortable than a quad burst (just like a triple plays way better for most players than a double) the pattern you suggest is not very common and will throw players off most likely. ALso the drum sound changes on the 5, so having a chnage in pattern at that point fits way better
01:01:371 (1) - Difference in spacing intentional? If not might wanna move it. (This could also be my eyes playing tricks and it's same spacing ..)Yeah I changed this a bit
Insane
00:28:213 (1) - Hitsound is too loud imo lowered volume a bit
00:53:397 (5) - Can't find any sound this is snapped to in the song. At 25% it is especially audible and it goes really well with that "building up noise" that part is mapped to. And it also plays really nice

thanks

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HabiHolic 2015-10-21T13:33:21+00:00

From my M4M queue

[Easy]

00:15:897 (5) - This combo long. NC please
00:21:266 (5,6) - Of course, these suits. But I think it's better to emphasize only the sound behind before. So far delete notes and 00:20:950 - 00:21:582 - Add Notes How Do the two places? add after NC please.
00:36:424 (1,2) - same (^)
01:14:003 (1) - Blanket check please.
01:24:108 (4) - NC

[Normal]

00:11:792 (4) - Maybe don't need slider body hitsound fixed please
00:24:740 (4) - your Easy diff use add combo is downbeat. so maybe here add NC.
00:27:266 (4) - better this slider 1/2 and two note

SPOILER

00:41:161 (1,2) - same (^)

Call me.

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-10-21T14:42:47+00:00

HabiHolic wrote:
From my M4M queue

[Easy]

00:15:897 (5) - This combo long. NC please done

00:21:266 (5,6) - Of course, these suits. But I think it's better to emphasize only the sound behind before. So far delete notes and 00:20:950 - 00:21:582 -
Add Notes How Do the two places? add after NC please.
00:36:424 (1,2) - same (^)
I changed between both versions a few times already, but I really felt the need to emphasize either the vocals or both.
So I put 1/2 sliders instead of circles. Doesn't actually make it harder but fits much better with the music while leaving neither of them out.

01:14:003 (1) - Blanket check please. Should be fixed
01:24:108 (4) - NC okay

[Normal]

00:11:792 (4) - Maybe don't need slider body hitsound fixed please removed
00:24:740 (4) - your Easy diff use add combo is downbeat. so maybe here add NC. done
00:27:266 (4) - better this slider 1/2 and two note applied, also stacked 00:26:950 (3) - and 00:28:529 (1) - properly
SPOILER

00:41:161 (1,2) - same (^) done

Call me.

Last edited by Lasse 2015-10-22T11:01:13+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

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HabiHolic 2015-10-21T23:05:50+00:00

Bubbled.

Avishay

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Avishay 2015-10-22T10:57:07+00:00

Woo.

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-10-24T08:06:39+00:00

fixed accidentally hitosunded sliderbody on Insane at 00:17:161 (1) -
and the hitsounding of the 01:27:740 (3) - slider on Insane and Light Insane
and some other barely noticeable hitosund changes
contacted HabiHolic ingame and it should be rebubbled soon

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HabiHolic 2015-10-24T09:18:06+00:00

Rebubbled

pishifat

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pishifat 2015-10-31T22:15:34+00:00

hitsounds samples are meant to provide feedback and compliment songs
bamboo oriental hitsounds work with some songs
this is not one of those songs

Every .wav file must be at least 100ms long to prevent issues with soundcards. If you want a silent/blank hitsound, then you must use a 0-byte .wav file.

applies to your drum and soft sliderslides

easy
00:48:108 (3,1) - could you not do that slight overlap under the head of 3. it's minor but it still sucks

normal
00:04:055 (3,4) - 00:06:582 (3,4) - ideally at this level of difficulty you're not putting in gimmicky things that make it hard to tell what's going on (which is what this would classify as surprisingly since it's like the entire body of 3 on 4). like just tell me which is easier to comprehend, the current placement with 3 overlap-blanketting 4 or bleh
00:38:634 (1) - whats with the switching from 1 measure combos to 2 measure combos here like you're even using the same rhythms as the last section zzz
00:50:950 (1) - properly mapping every downbeat before this with a clickable object makes the one that you don't stand out a lot. "Is the sound the slider starts on really stronger than the one it ends on?" - Aristotle 364 BC. ancient techniquez i think you knwo about that already
01:21:582 - ignoring the start of a new phrase okthen even copying 00:13:371 (1) - would be k

advanced
so between 00:02:634 (1) - and 00:11:950 (6) - is a build up right? why are your rhythms getting less dense it is legit the opposite of the song. after looking through later diffs i see you do something similar so rip decide whatever you want
00:11:476 (3,4,5,6) - this kind of 1/2 antijump stuff not really a thing to do at this difficulty level. usually for this kind of gap-filler the gameplay elements introduced should be spaced 1/2 and more density. fairly consistent spacing should be a thing (like the same amount as normals p much)
00:12:345 (1) - quality™
00:18:424 (1,2,3,4,5) - really should be mapped the same way as before (with the 1/1 sliders). there's a big difference in rhythm density when you do this kind of thing that's completely undeserved when music isn't changing
00:51:108 - really should be an object here since the song is repeating the same thing as 00:49:687 (4,5,1) - 00:54:740 (3,1) - wewewewew

insane
00:28:213 (1) - uh the song is 1/2 why the unnecessary 1/4
there's a lot of improper spacing stuff throughout this diff also. i modded ashivay's diff first (despite it being the last thing here) so see hwat i said there if you wanna know more detailz
01:14:950 (4,1,2) - like 1 is more powerful than 2 yet 4->1 is smaller than 1->2. not the best idea to do thatstuff
01:13:845 (7,1) - yea same thing, 6->7 is larger than 7->1 while 1 is most powerful
00:39:740 (7,1) - literal samesamesameasemasesmaesamesmea
you get the idea. without doing this stuff it's like you're just randomly placing objects. maybe you can comprehend the logic behind stuff, but if everyone else can't, then gg

so this sort of applies to all of your difficulties. you're using a lot of wide circular flow, which is fine if done carefully, but like there's a lot of broken flow because of how you're doing it currently
take 00:23:397 (9,1,2,3,4) - in light insane as an example. you've got one wide circle for these 4 objects. if they were in a more exact circle, it would flow alright, but the way you have it now is ew. 00:23:476 (1,2,3) - forms one curve, then 4 is its own separate curve pretty much because of its placement and sliderbody direction. the blue blob in this = an uncomfortable way to break flow (which people usually avoid by using tighter patterns, but you don't really use those so g)
it may seem as if it's a minor thing but breaking flow constantly when you're not intending to is pretty gross

then there's how you've got most of your spacing is constant medium sized jumps, which i guess could suit the song, but makes for lower tier aesthetics and a lack of emphasis on the sounds that should stand out above others.

that's just my opinion tho like i dunno how many other people would think the same way

AsHivaY's eXtrA!!
i kinda don't think this is ever getting ranked in its current state. it's got a lot of incomprehensible spacing, improper emphasis, and something similar to the bs i tried to explain above
00:26:003 (1) - why the 3/4 when song is still doing constant 1/2 stuff. if you claim to be following vocal stuff, ignoring that one on the red tick here is balls
some spacing complaints:
00:39:740 (6,1) - so like why is this smallest of the previous jump pattern when 1 is deserving of the most emphasis
00:42:266 (6,1) - samez. even when the sounds are similar, instinctively people will consider downbeats as stronger stuff since that's just how music works whatamievensaying
00:13:371 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so strongest sound is 4 yet it has smalest spacing of all
00:14:950 (3,4) - then it's highest ok
01:12:740 (1,2) - literally repeats 01:11:476 (1,2) - yet spacing is 4x smaller pourquoi
00:59:792 (6,1) - hardcore antijump the the the the
i could go on but you get what i mean
spacing isn't the only way to emphasize stuff tho. angles are a great way to do it
00:07:529 (7,1) - 00:09:424 (4,1) - these emphasize the beat 1 things nicely cuz sharp angles = more pressure on the following object. this is good
00:08:792 (6,1) - 00:10:055 (4,1) - 00:10:687 (4,1) - these however are not so good. when you've got near-linear movement it's the opposite of ^. this idea is why patterns like triangle spam work so well to empahsize the first note of every 3
and there's the thing similar to what i tried to explain to lasse above. flow breaks that are caused by poor sliderbody usage
00:30:897 (2,3) - ew then not ew. movement from 1 to 2 to 3 is counter clockwise so sliderbody continuing that = sense
00:19:687 (1,2) - same idea goes for sliderbody --> next object. like 1's sliderbody is saying "go counterclockwise" then 2 is in a counter clockwise direction ok ok ok
there's way more stuff i disagree like mlg slidervelocity and obnoxiously loud hitsounds at 00:37:529 (3,5) - but the other stuff is moer important so ya. oh and this thing which you argued against 100 times already 00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -

i'd recommend you guys adjust what you consider necessary and find some opinions from more experienced mappers/modders. people who just say to adjust blankets and that sort of stuff won't help you at this point. if you think the map has actually improved after doing that, ask me to look again and i'll tell you my thoughts. most likely you'll be getting your rebubble from habi

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Lasse 2015-11-01T00:54:44+00:00

pishifat wrote:
hitsounds samples are meant to provide feedback and compliment songs
bamboo oriental hitsounds work with some songs
this is not one of those songs
changed sth more suitable

Every .wav file must be at least 100ms long to prevent issues with soundcards. If you want a silent/blank hitsound, then you must use a 0-byte .wav file.
applies to your drum and soft sliderslides
thanks for that, I zused such a file at first but somehow it corrupted the mapupload, idk why. But the one you linked works

easy
00:48:108 (3,1) - could you not do that slight overlap under the head of 3. it's minor but it still sucks fixed, blanket was a bit off anyways

normal
00:04:055 (3,4) - 00:06:582 (3,4) - ideally at this level of difficulty you're not putting in gimmicky things that make it hard to tell what's going on (which is what this would classify as surprisingly since it's like the entire body of 3 on 4). like just tell me which is easier to comprehend, the current placement with 3 overlap-blanketting 4 or bleh
I'll take answer a, nah I get your point, I just liked the way it looked. changed

00:38:634 (1) - whats with the switching from 1 measure combos to 2 measure combos here like you're even using the same rhythms as the last section zzz
fixed
00:50:950 (1) - properly mapping every downbeat before this with a clickable object makes the one that you don't stand out a lot. "Is the sound the slider starts on really stronger than the one it ends on?" - Aristotle 364 BC. ancient techniquez i think you knwo about that already
changed
01:21:582 - ignoring the start of a new phrase okthen even copying 00:13:371 (1) - would be k yeah I added alider here

advanced
so between 00:02:634 (1) - and 00:11:950 (6) - is a build up right? why are your rhythms getting less dense it is legit the opposite of the song. after looking through later diffs i see you do something similar so rip decide whatever you want
ugh this is mapped to go with the drums and I don't see a reason to throw more stuff in there, especially on this diff

00:11:476 (3,4,5,6) - this kind of 1/2 antijump stuff not really a thing to do at this difficulty level. usually for this kind of gap-filler the gameplay elements introduced should be spaced 1/2 and more density. fairly consistent spacing should be a thing (like the same amount as normals p much)
made the same ds as before
00:12:345 (1) - quality™
00:18:424 (1,2,3,4,5) - really should be mapped the same way as before (with the 1/1 sliders). there's a big difference in rhythm density when you do this kind of thing that's completely undeserved when music isn't changing that'S right, changed
00:51:108 - really should be an object here since the song is repeating the same thing as 00:49:687 (4,5,1) - 00:54:740 (3,1) kk

- wewewewew

insane
00:28:213 (1) - uh the song is 1/2 why the unnecessary 1/4 changed
there's a lot of improper spacing stuff throughout this diff also. i modded ashivay's diff first (despite it being the last thing here) so see hwat i said there if you wanna know more detailz
01:14:950 (4,1,2) - like 1 is more powerful than 2 yet 4->1 is smaller than 1->2. not the best idea to do thatstuff yeah, changed
01:13:845 (7,1) - yea same thing, 6->7 is larger than 7->1 while 1 is most powerful also fixed
00:39:740 (7,1) - literal samesamesameasemasesmaesamesmea
you get the idea. without doing this stuff it's like you're just randomly placing objects. maybe you can comprehend the logic behind stuff, but if everyone else can't, then gg
actually this helped me much with spacing, I'll to some more spacing changes to the Insane to make more sense

so this sort of applies to all of your difficulties. you're using a lot of wide circular flow, which is fine if done carefully, but like there's a lot of broken flow because of how you're doing it currently
take 00:23:397 (9,1,2,3,4) - in light insane as an example. you've got one wide circle for these 4 objects. if they were in a more exact circle, it would flow alright, but the way you have it now is ew. 00:23:476 (1,2,3) - forms one curve, then 4 is its own separate curve pretty much because of its placement and sliderbody direction. the blue blob in this = an uncomfortable way to break flow (which people usually avoid by using tighter patterns, but you don't really use those so g)
it may seem as if it's a minor thing but breaking flow constantly when you're not intending to is pretty gross

then there's how you've got most of your spacing is constant medium sized jumps, which i guess could suit the song, but makes for lower tier aesthetics and a lack of emphasis on the sounds that should stand out above others.
that's the idea, the song is so energetic the whole time, I'd feel bad for using a lower spacing, for stuff that I want to emphasize less I'd still keep spacing but use 1/2 sliders insted of 1/2 taps like on the Insane 00:50:003 (3,4,5) - etc.

that's just my opinion tho like i dunno how many other people would think the same way

i'd recommend you guys adjust what you consider necessary and find some opinions from more experienced mappers/modders.
there have already been lots of decent mods from more experienced people for those diffs and most of those were applied

people who just say to adjust blankets and that sort of stuff won't help you at this point. if you think the map has actually improved after doing that, ask me to look again and i'll tell you my thoughts. most likely you'll be getting your rebubble from habi

also remapped/respaced/rearranged some of the jumps on the Insane + Light Insane to make more "sense"

your mod really helped me to improve this thing, thanks for taking the time doing so

please redownload for updated hitsounds

waiting for avishay to reply to this mod before bothering Habi again

Last edited by Lasse 2016-01-06T20:29:23+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Avishay

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Avishay 2015-11-01T11:29:08+00:00

pishifat wrote:
AsHivaY's eXtrA!!
i kinda don't think this is ever getting ranked in its current state. it's got a lot of incomprehensible spacing, improper emphasis, and something similar to the bs i tried to explain above
00:26:003 (1) - why the 3/4 when song is still doing constant 1/2 stuff. if you claim to be following vocal stuff, ignoring that one on the red tick here is balls You pretty much answered yourself.
some spacing complaints:
00:39:740 (6,1) - so like why is this smallest of the previous jump pattern when 1 is deserving of the most emphasis Uhm, sure I guess, changed.
00:42:266 (6,1) - samez. even when the sounds are similar, instinctively people will consider downbeats as stronger stuff since that's just how music works whatamievensaying Alright.
00:13:371 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so strongest sound is 4 yet it has smalest spacing of all Not really.. The emphasis is on the slider heads rather than the hitsounded note. However, I've emphasized 4 now as well.
00:14:950 (3,4) - then it's highest ok
01:12:740 (1,2) - literally repeats 01:11:476 (1,2) - yet spacing is 4x smaller pourquoi No particular reason, I wanted something else.
00:59:792 (6,1) - hardcore antijump the the the the
i could go on but you get what i mean
spacing isn't the only way to emphasize stuff tho. angles are a great way to do it
00:07:529 (7,1) - 00:09:424 (4,1) - these emphasize the beat 1 things nicely cuz sharp angles = more pressure on the following object. this is good
00:08:792 (6,1) - 00:10:055 (4,1) - 00:10:687 (4,1) - these however are not so good. when you've got near-linear movement it's the opposite of ^. this idea is why patterns like triangle spam work so well to empahsize the first note of every 3 Although I agree, those jumps can work too, eitherway I prefer to just push it forward as long as I don't feel the map is completely different from whatever I want.
and there's the thing similar to what i tried to explain to lasse above. flow breaks that are caused by poor sliderbody usage
00:30:897 (2,3) - ew then not ew. movement from 1 to 2 to 3 is counter clockwise so sliderbody continuing that = sense
00:19:687 (1,2) - same idea goes for sliderbody --> next object. like 1's sliderbody is saying "go counterclockwise" then 2 is in a counter clockwise direction ok ok ok
there's way more stuff i disagree like mlg slidervelocity and obnoxiously loud hitsounds at 00:37:529 (3,5) - but the other stuff is moer important so ya. oh and this thing which you argued against 100 times already 00:22:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -

i'd recommend you guys adjust what you consider necessary and find some opinions from more experienced mappers/modders. people who just say to adjust blankets and that sort of stuff won't help you at this point. if you think the map has actually improved after doing that, ask me to look again and i'll tell you my thoughts. most likely you'll be getting your rebubble from habi

Alright, thanks for the input, TIL. I've accepted most of your notes ~~and I'll post a more detailed response soon~~.

Okay so, I'll have to say that the strong beat emphasizing is honestly not mandatory imo, as long as the spacing is not ridiculously low it's just fine. You might not like it but some stuff exist just because I like them and the way they play, so I might not have a clear structure or strong consistency, but that's how it goes.

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Lasse

osu! Alumni

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Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-11-01T12:11:55+00:00

updated avishay's diff and made some more minor changes to Insane and Light Insane

Lasse

osu! Alumni

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Topic Starter

Lasse 2015-11-01T16:17:51+00:00

Talking with Avishay and several BN lead to the conclusion that it would be the best for this set to continue without his GD

GD => removed
Light Insane => Insane
Insane => Custom Name

redownload :/

ZZHBOY

1,649 posts

Joined April 2012

ZZHBOY 2015-11-02T14:34:38+00:00

wip avishay's gd.
irc with mapper and fixed some issue in last diff.

changes

00:03:740 (4) - make this slider more like 00:06:266 (4) - (no wobble)
00:07:687 (1) - ^
00:17:476 (2) - there is no 1/4 here, make this a 1/2 slider
00:27:266 (1,2,3,4,5) - fix this star with ctrl-shift-d
00:31:055 (1,2,3) - - rearrange those sliders a bit

seems fine now and bubbled!
good luck lasse.

HabiHolic

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Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2015-11-03T06:39:25+00:00

Sorry for late

Ranked,

walaowey

952 posts

Joined March 2012

walaowey 2015-11-03T06:42:29+00:00

gratz lasse \o/

Kyle Y

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Joined November 2013

Kyle Y 2015-11-03T10:52:26+00:00

Congrat~

Kalibe

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Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2015-11-03T14:00:03+00:00

wow. Good job Lasse \:D/

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2015-11-03T15:55:11+00:00

Hitsounds are too loud. 80% is way too much imo.
Like 00:20:950 (1,2,3,4) - should be at max 60%, they are just too much over the song.

Sad because this is really good hitsounding here :c

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-11-03T16:00:52+00:00

Thanks everyone

now to survive qualification

@nozhomi:
Huh? The hitsounds I used for the map are not that loud and the mp3 is pretty loud so the volume should be fine.
Also the hitnormals are all kinda low pitched to not overlap with the vocals
I personally play this game with 50% music volume and 100% hitsound volume while playing this game most of the time and even with those settings they didn't feel too loud

Maybe you should change your volume settings? It's supposed to be played with hitsound+music at the same value when using the custom song hitsounds.

Edit: just checked again, and with both music and hitsounds set to 70% in your osu client stuff like 00:20:950 (1,2,3,4) - fits the drums it's supposed to emphasize just fine volume-wise
and if you want to complain about 00:28:213 (1) -, that's supposed to stand out that much to emphasize that vocal in particular

The only complaints about hitsounds I ever got were for the old soft-hitnormal, which is long since gone and the old whistle which is gone since pishi's mod

and after all, if you still dislike the volume you can always lower effect volume in the soundmixer, since it seems fine for other people :S

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