yes.Drezi wrote:
why did you say 50/50 first then? are you sure you're not lying to me? don't lie to me it'll make me angry.
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THIS DISCUSSION IS MAKING MY HEAD SPIN
Jess, what is your role?
^ that was meant for the first post, i don't mind the second :^)
roleclaim: Doublevoter.fartownik wrote:
Jess, what is your role?
holy sheet she actually said it
PROVE IT, VOTE ME TWICE
PROVE IT, VOTE ME TWICE
or vote me and farto if it can only be used on different targets.
@farto, I was supposed to mention that I'm really torn between voting rEdo and Tess, hence why I'm not currently voting anyone, but... I see I didn't. Whoops.
But you're not explicitly claiming Town Doublevoter, are you?-[Jess]- wrote:
roleclaim: Doublevoter.
i just say,no.Static Noise Bird wrote:
But you're not explicitly claiming Town Doublevoter, are you?
why aren't you using your doublevote? are you saying you're not a town doublevoter, or not a doublevoter at all?
Vote: Jess
i am planning to vote now,since it is 1-shot.Drezi wrote:
why aren't you using your doublevote? are you saying you're not a town doublevoter, or not a doublevoter at all?
Kek.Drezi wrote:
No problem, I'd rather have it gone.
I still don't know whether Jess is claiming a Town or a non-Town doublevoter.
Yeah I think there's just a language barrier here.
Unvote
Unvote
Scum doublevoter.Drezi wrote:
what else would she claim jeez?
I should just remember by now that their English is not exactly the greatest and when something from them sounds like a hazy slip it probably isn't.
I don't care about the claim simply being Doublevoter and not "Town Doublevoter" lol.
I got the impression that Jess would feel uncomfortable lying straight to my face, and she didn't answer "I'm town" right away. As town I think she would have, but she said 50/50 first instead??
Either way use your double vote on someone Jess, I don't think she needs to keep it in case she's town.
I got the impression that Jess would feel uncomfortable lying straight to my face, and she didn't answer "I'm town" right away. As town I think she would have, but she said 50/50 first instead??
Either way use your double vote on someone Jess, I don't think she needs to keep it in case she's town.
I can try using my superduper scumhunting method on you too, if you'd like.Tess wrote:
She claimed to be town earlier.
Tess are you town?
You just gotta love this game
Jess, who are you planning to vote?
What's with the question are you town, who the fuck would even answer it with "i'm scum" please.
Jess
well i saw her 50/50 answer but idk what to think about it considering she's new tbh, but it's reeaaally weird.
Topic Starter
Votecount 1.9
fartownik -
Drezi -
Tess (4) - Frostings, Zexion, Drezi, Amianki
Irreversible -
-[Jess]- -
rEdo (2) - fartownik, - Magic Bomb -
Sniverre235 (1) - -[Jess]-
Zexion -
- Magic Bomb - -
Frostings -
Amianki -
Static Noise Bird (2) - Irreversible, rEdo
Not Voting: Tess, Sniverre235, Static Noise Bird
With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline will be on July 25 8:30PM GMT -5. This is 6 days from now.
Let me know if I made any mistakes.
fartownik -
Drezi -
Tess (4) - Frostings, Zexion, Drezi, Amianki
Irreversible -
-[Jess]- -
rEdo (2) - fartownik, - Magic Bomb -
Sniverre235 (1) - -[Jess]-
Zexion -
- Magic Bomb - -
Frostings -
Amianki -
Static Noise Bird (2) - Irreversible, rEdo
Not Voting: Tess, Sniverre235, Static Noise Bird
With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline will be on July 25 8:30PM GMT -5. This is 6 days from now.
Let me know if I made any mistakes.
wot-[Jess]- wrote:
50/50,honesty.Drezi wrote:
Jess I see you're here, please answer with full honesty - are you completely sure you're town, or is there a chance you're scum this game?
why do you even have to check?-[Jess]- wrote:
let me check....yes it said Town.Drezi wrote:
But you recieved a role PM from Navi. Doesn't it say you're a pokemon from the Town faction? We don't know it but you do
did you not read your role pm?
because your posts don't make any sense if you're town. I don't know how you could have had a split read between Amianki and Sniverre if they were both doing the same thing. Seems like a softpush to get an early town lynched you know?Tess wrote:
Frostings, why are you so persistent on my meager read on Sniverre? I never even took it seriously, and I've said so the entire time. You have a way with misinterpreting what I said.
It's just like you to brush off my questions again without answering them
Oh yeah,
FoS: Amianki
I find your vote on Tess actually quite suspicious, voting her after the wagon slightly disassembled to regain it's momentum. Your reasoning for voting isn't good either, whereas I can see where Drezi's vote is coming from
FoS: Amianki
I find your vote on Tess actually quite suspicious, voting her after the wagon slightly disassembled to regain it's momentum. Your reasoning for voting isn't good either, whereas I can see where Drezi's vote is coming from
I'm more sure of Tess-scum after her response.
Your move, Frostings.
Your move, Frostings.
Can you deliver on that rEdo readup, post some thoughts about Jess or anyone else for that matter?
MBomb
MBomb
MBomb
If SNB turns out to be town I will find a hat, buy it, and eat it.
so sum it in a case for us then? last thing you mentioned was seeing a towny post by SNB, so wtf are you even doing just coming here to say you're convinced he's scum now?
I mean like seriously you aren't even voting him.
and you decided that SNB is scum for sure again, right after this.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
one of either SNB or Tess is probably scum.
Topic Starter
Zexion has been prodded!
I said I saw SNB say something towny for once, not that I didn't think he was scum anymore. One towny post doesn't make someone not-scum.Drezi wrote:
so sum it in a case for us then? last thing you mentioned was seeing a towny post by SNB, so wtf are you even doing just coming here to say you're convinced he's scum now?
Tess wrote:
I think that lynching SNB would result in an equal amount of confusion as lynching me would, so, for now
Unvote
And then you drop by to say that you'l EAT YOUR HAT IF SNB IS TOWN.Tess wrote:
I think "this is a pretty town-y post by SNB" and you go and unvote me, pretty much making it impossible for me to mention that without ]seeming like I only consider people town when they're not voting me.
If you're thinking SNB is definitely scum as you said, then lynching him would result in a celebration as we lynch scum, not confusion.... And the second quote doesn't even make sense to bring up at all then, plus the red part doesn't really look like you being convinced he's scum.
You'd better explain your whole thought process thoroughly here. I mean at this point you aren't really in a position to leverage withholding some thoughts and such..
Magic Bomb is Town 99,9%.
Amianki's gameplay as a whole is pretty suspicious indeed. I recall him being usually more active and not so lazy with his reads/votes as he is showing right now. He might've cut himself some slack after being townreaded by me fairly easily. Definitely not out of the picture as a possible scumspect.
Amianki's gameplay as a whole is pretty suspicious indeed. I recall him being usually more active and not so lazy with his reads/votes as he is showing right now. He might've cut himself some slack after being townreaded by me fairly easily. Definitely not out of the picture as a possible scumspect.
Drezi wrote:
Tess wrote:
I think that lynching SNB would result in an equal amount of confusion as lynching me would, so, for now
UnvoteAnd then you drop by to say that you'l EAT YOUR HAT IF SNB IS TOWN.Tess wrote:
I think "this is a pretty town-y post by SNB" and you go and unvote me, pretty much making it impossible for me to mention that without seeming like I only consider people town when they're not voting me.
If you're thinking SNB is definitely scum as you said, then lynching him would result in a celebration as we lynch scum, not confusion.... And the second quote doesn't even make sense to bring up at all then, plus the red part doesn't really look like you being convinced he's scum.
You'd better explain your whole thought process thoroughly here. I mean at this point you aren't really in a position to leverage withholding some thoughts and such..
Tess wrote:
I think "this is a pretty town-y post by SNB"
What about this do you not understand? I heavily suspect SNB of being scum, and he makes a town-y post. ANY SCUM can do that, that means nothing, that didn't change my opinion of him. I don't have him voted right now because I'm not sure if I missed something in the thread. But based on WHAT I KNOW NOW, SNB is still my #1 suspect and if he turns out to be town that'll pretty much fuck over all my other suspicions. That's why I still want to RE-READ THE THREAD so that I can make sure that I'm headed in the right direction, and him making a towny post doesn't have to change my suspicions of him at all. It'd be weird if my suspicions DID change.Tess wrote:
I think this is a pretty town-y post by SNB
Why is it becoming a trend to press for irrelevant shit? I could understand your points before but this is just stupid.
I guess I give reads for the current hot topics:
Magic Bomb: Reminds me of my behaviour to be honest at the first games (not saying it improved), but seems like town.
Tess: Well, I see her being suspected really hard. But to be honest, do you guys really think one would post that tons of walls? If Tess were scum, THEN it's a really bad play honestly. But I honestly doubt that.
SNB: No change of behaviour imo. However, I am not quite sure if it's the best lynch for day 1.
fartownik: Improved his town read for me, I guess we will learn a lot more at day 2, because of analyzing his early pushs.
reDo: His behaviour reminds me of the one in the other game (oh wow, im complaining about comparing to games but doing it myself OP), where he was scum. I don't really know what to think about it.
tl;dr: I don't think Tess is an appropriate lynch for day 1, for so said reasons. My personal opinion is that someone gets lynched who farto attacked in the early stage, to learn more about his alignment (because like that we could see whether it was justified or not), or SNB, because I don't really see a change.
Magic Bomb: Reminds me of my behaviour to be honest at the first games (not saying it improved), but seems like town.
Tess: Well, I see her being suspected really hard. But to be honest, do you guys really think one would post that tons of walls? If Tess were scum, THEN it's a really bad play honestly. But I honestly doubt that.
SNB: No change of behaviour imo. However, I am not quite sure if it's the best lynch for day 1.
fartownik: Improved his town read for me, I guess we will learn a lot more at day 2, because of analyzing his early pushs.
reDo: His behaviour reminds me of the one in the other game (oh wow, im complaining about comparing to games but doing it myself OP), where he was scum. I don't really know what to think about it.
tl;dr: I don't think Tess is an appropriate lynch for day 1, for so said reasons. My personal opinion is that someone gets lynched who farto attacked in the early stage, to learn more about his alignment (because like that we could see whether it was justified or not), or SNB, because I don't really see a change.
...prod picked. I feel like a zombie right now so I only did a quick read of the thread. Sorry if I make mistakes.
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Also I can't agree more with your read on Amianki. He didn't even answer about the initial vote on me, and left me with a "when I read walls I'll tell".
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Nice to see rEdo avoiding my questions btw.
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You dropping your vote on SNB just after Farto drops his vote on you is pretty strange, but I don't know what to think about that.Tess wrote:
I honestly have to add that I have been having a bad game, mostly due to starting with the mindset from the previous game where I started halfway through. I don't think my ideas are illogical, but I've phrased them pretty terribly. When I have time I'll probably re-read the entire thread, and try to fix my reads accordingly (with proper phrasing this time, hopefully)
I think that lynching SNB would result in an equal amount of confusion as lynching me would, so, for now
Unvote
I wanna rethink before making another vote.
You do realize you often contradict yourself and you overall speech its what makes you look like scum? Its not just you talking.Tess wrote:
Maybe it's because everything I say is used in some form or another to paint me as scum.
Frostings already answered this, but I wanted to contribute a little bit: That first sentence only goes to show that you're just reading what you want to read or what's most convinient for you. Your read on Sniverre wasn't relevant in that post, but rather how you say there's something suspicious in him and then there's nothing, that means contradicting yourself again.Tess wrote:
Frostings, why are you so persistent on my meager read on Sniverre? I never even took it seriously, and I've said so the entire time. You have a way with misinterpreting what I said.
Also, it's because of the last game that I wondered if this game had a daychat.
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I'm at a loss of words. Again. Talking to Jess its like... [insert funny comparison here]-[Jess]- wrote:
50/50,honesty.Drezi wrote:
Jess I see you're here, please answer with full honesty - are you completely sure you're town, or is there a chance you're scum this game?
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So MB is town just because she's following you?fartownik wrote:
Magic Bomb is Town 99,9%.
Amianki's gameplay as a whole is pretty suspicious indeed. I recall him being usually more active and not so lazy with his reads/votes as he is showing right now. He might've cut himself some slack after being townreaded by me fairly easily. Definitely not out of the picture as a possible scumspect.
Also I can't agree more with your read on Amianki. He didn't even answer about the initial vote on me, and left me with a "when I read walls I'll tell".
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Nice to see rEdo avoiding my questions btw.
@Tess: In case you haven't noticed I'm voting you and I'll bring up everything and anything >>I<< find relevant, and I couldn't care less if you consider it irrelevant or annoys you.
In this case your "wooo im so sure SNB is scum" comment looks out of place after the things I quoted and I explained why I think so. As for the second quote the emphasis was on the "you feeling bad about considering peeople town when they're not voting you" part not that you think he made a towny post, I even made it red.
In this case your "wooo im so sure SNB is scum" comment looks out of place after the things I quoted and I explained why I think so. As for the second quote the emphasis was on the "you feeling bad about considering peeople town when they're not voting you" part not that you think he made a towny post, I even made it red.
Uh what, you want to lynch into his early weaker scumreads to learn his alignment, over the two serious pushes he made later? I just don't get this.Irreversible wrote:
My personal opinion is that someone gets lynched who farto attacked in the early stage, to learn more about his alignment (because like that we could see whether it was justified or not)
Just look at those 3 posts p/4348898.Zexion wrote:
So MB is town just because she's following you?
You can literally SEE his train of thoughts being transformed into posts there, and it looks extremely Town, at least to me. He votes rEdo, then in ANOTHER post he writes something to 'lessen his guilt' in potential Townie lynch (reading me as scum if rEdo flips Town), but then realizes that his read on me itself is actually strong enough for that to be overlooked. Especially his third post, the correction of his previous read is very convincing. Not to mention his reads are actually correct and close to what I'm thinking, but that can be counted as "sheeping", so it's not that important.
Early as in when he went full-agressive-mode to people.Drezi wrote:
Uh what, you want to lynch into his early weaker scumreads to learn his alignment, over the two serious pushes he made later? I just don't get this.Irreversible wrote:
My personal opinion is that someone gets lynched who farto attacked in the early stage, to learn more about his alignment (because like that we could see whether it was justified or not)
Topic Starter
Ace Timing is replacing Sniverre235 effective immediately.
ISO for Ace Timing has been added as well.
ISO for Ace Timing has been added as well.
We'll see. I get two days off now, so.fartownik wrote:
Magic Bomb is Town 99,9%.
Amianki's gameplay as a whole is pretty suspicious indeed. I recall him being usually more active and not so lazy with his reads/votes as he is showing right now. He might've cut himself some slack after being townreaded by me fairly easily. Definitely not out of the picture as a possible scumspect.
This is scum if Tess is scum.Irreversible wrote:
Tess: Well, I see her being suspected really hard. But to be honest, do you guys really think one would post that tons of walls? If Tess were scum, THEN it's a really bad play honestly. But I honestly doubt that.
Zexion: Your first wall was pure fluff; when I voted you after it, you subtly tried to deflect it. I haven't read your other walls so I don't know whether this is consistent or not.
Jess sounds like a wild card that isn't very easy to crack either way. Every case and point sent her way isn't all that impressive.Drezi wrote:
Can you deliver on that rEdo readup, post some thoughts about Jess or anyone else for that matter?
You can just lynch me and find out. I've been playing this game pretty terribly from the start. Being honest is apparently suspicious.
This is a ridiculous statement. I've stated multiple times that I don't read walls unless I have a reason to on this site.Zexion wrote:
Also I can't agree more with your read on Amianki. He didn't even answer about the initial vote on me, and left me with a "when I read walls I'll tell".
So far my reads are:
Town:
Magic Bomb
Amianki
Drezi
Null town:
Zexion
Fartownick
Irre
Null-Scum:
Tess
Anyone not there is just null. Not voting right now, Tess seems scummy at times but there's a chance that she's just VI playing weirdly, so not going to rule that out yet.
Town:
Magic Bomb
Amianki
Drezi
Null town:
Zexion
Fartownick
Irre
Null-Scum:
Tess
Anyone not there is just null. Not voting right now, Tess seems scummy at times but there's a chance that she's just VI playing weirdly, so not going to rule that out yet.
This post is a pretty good example of why I'm scumreading you.Tess wrote:
You can just lynch me and find out. I've been playing this game pretty terribly from the start. Being honest is apparently suspicious.
Case in point. Anything can become a scumread once you suspect someone.
Right. And being contradictory is honest in what way?Tess wrote:
You can just lynch me and find out. I've been playing this game pretty terribly from the start. Being honest is apparently suspicious.
Because it's lying to say something you're not thinking for the sake of consistency. And I was continuously being pressured into proving I'm not scum, thanks to having started with a pretty bad move that's what led to all of this. It doesn't matter if I'm honest or not at this point, you guys think I'm scum, period. And I can't do any reads because anything I say about anyone will be "me trying to squeeze myself out of scum"
So, basically, I fucked up, and now I can't contribute to the game anymore. So it'd be better to take the lynch, even though town won't get much information out of it. They'll probably just go "Oh well she was just playing bad I guess" and ignore any of my reads. Maybe you'd become suspicious, SNB, but I can't really see how else things will go at the moment.
I constantly had to correct false interpretations and/or reword/explain my statements, which goes to show that I just didn't make them correctly. Scum (which I assume is you) saw that as a perfect opportunity to jump on, and the constant questioning leading in various directions, and multiple questions about the same thing under various contexts, led to me making "contradictory" posts.
The only way I'd be taken seriously again is if any one of my main reads (namely you or farto) has a big enough scumslip to convince the rest of town that my reads weren't that off. But I don't see that happening anytime soon, so, I realize I fucked up and if I get lynched over that then so be it. I'm still thoroughly convinced that at least two of the people pushing me are scum, and you're one of them.
So, basically, I fucked up, and now I can't contribute to the game anymore. So it'd be better to take the lynch, even though town won't get much information out of it. They'll probably just go "Oh well she was just playing bad I guess" and ignore any of my reads. Maybe you'd become suspicious, SNB, but I can't really see how else things will go at the moment.
I constantly had to correct false interpretations and/or reword/explain my statements, which goes to show that I just didn't make them correctly. Scum (which I assume is you) saw that as a perfect opportunity to jump on, and the constant questioning leading in various directions, and multiple questions about the same thing under various contexts, led to me making "contradictory" posts.
The only way I'd be taken seriously again is if any one of my main reads (namely you or farto) has a big enough scumslip to convince the rest of town that my reads weren't that off. But I don't see that happening anytime soon, so, I realize I fucked up and if I get lynched over that then so be it. I'm still thoroughly convinced that at least two of the people pushing me are scum, and you're one of them.
No, it's just that your accusations so far have been baseless. Just prove a point with straight-forward evidence with no contradictory counters later and I could believe you.Tess wrote:
Because it's lying to say something you're not thinking for the sake of consistency. And I was continuously being pressured into proving I'm not scum, thanks to having started with a pretty bad move that's what led to all of this. It doesn't matter if I'm honest or not at this point, you guys think I'm scum, period. And I can't do any reads because anything I say about anyone will be "me trying to squeeze myself out of scum".
But isn't making mistakes a pretty solid point about how you could be scum. You're using that as an evidence for a "badly reasoned" pushing for your lynch by possible scum? Nice, almost like you're saying that you're too reckless to actually be a real scum.Tess wrote:
I constantly had to correct false interpretations and/or reword/explain my statements, which goes to show that I just didn't make them correctly. Scum (which I assume is you) saw that as a perfect opportunity to jump on, and the constant questioning leading in various directions, and multiple questions about the same thing under various contexts, led to me making "contradictory" posts.
Sure, someone from the wagon could very likely be a scum seeing a perfect opportunity and since I can't assure you that it's not me (though you should know if you were scum yourself), you're free to believe whatever you want to.
Some parts in this post may sound very confident, but keep in mind that this shit is pretty much just all hypothetical.
Besides I'm not even voting you currently.
Also your entire wall is an unnecessary AtE. Please avoid doing that especially if you were town.
lol I'm approaching this game on a whole different level, but okay.Irreversible wrote:
reDo: His behaviour reminds me of the one in the other game (oh wow, im complaining about comparing to games but doing it myself OP), where he was scum. I don't really know what to think about it.
Can you then move your vote to either Tess or SNB, because they're a better lynch for today than me, thank you?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Hmm thinking about it, I might not consider fartownik being scum, even if this did flip town, as I understand his reasoning behind this theory, if he is town, but I would say if it does, one of either SNB or Tess is probably scum.
Wait, I missed something? o_oZexion wrote:
Nice to see rEdo avoiding my questions btw.
...ah, okay. That wasn't too distinguishing, so I might have overlooked that. Ermm, what I saw so far in your posts was like just picking up Tess' inconsistencies and saying easy stuff like "Magic Bomb is town because X", and that would get generally accepted by people. Narrowing down just one person is not cool, you know, especially if everybody else in this game does narrow it too. That would mean you either have no idea what to do or you're scum looking for an easy opportunity to push a mislynch. Reading your ISO looks exactly like how I would play the game as scum: find a wagon that's the most accepted, scumpaint that person into a lynch and repeat the same until it's safe.Zexion wrote:
I can't really tell why I'm so similar to SNB. You just left me there as scum then procceded to defend Tess and accusing SNB. Care to explain why I'm definitely scum to you?
Source: p/4345991/
The above is also why I'm thinking SNB would be a better lynch than Tess for today, the latter seems like an easy mislynch.
Hello.Ace Timing wrote:
Town:
Amianki
Elaboration not found. Elaboration requested.
Absolutely don't do that. Even when you start playing with a mentality of "damn what'll they think of me if I say this" you'll look scummy even as town. BUT even if you make the strangest of jumps, you can explain what you were thinking ESPECIALLY if being asked about it in great detail, and we'll be able to see if we think your thought process was geniune or not. If you just try to sweep it under the rug and complain that whatever you do is scummy now that doesn't help.Tess wrote:
Because it's lying to say something you're not thinking for the sake of consistency.
There's some truth to it, that it'll take a lot more to change our opinion, once you've gathered so much suspicion, but you don't really need to make us think you're town, we just need to think someone is more worthy of a lynch today.Tess wrote:
I can't do any reads because anything I say about anyone will be "me trying to squeeze myself out of scum"
So, basically, I fucked up, and now I can't contribute to the game anymore.
Also even if you were 100% to be lynched today you could still contribute because the moment you flip town, we'd know your thoughts were genuine and we can go back and check your reads and interactions with everyone.
If that's your idea of scumplay, then you most certainly would NOT behave like that as scum, this kinda makes farto's point stronger, just saying.rEdo wrote:
Reading your ISO looks exactly like how I would play the game as scum: find a wagon that's the most accepted, scumpaint that person into a lynch and repeat the same until it's safe.
Anyway right now I'm only considering Jess as an alternative lynch, it's due to something I can't mention because of rules, but you can all check ; )
Another brain tumour! Please, somebody help me!Drezi wrote:
If that's your idea of scumplay, then you most certainly would NOT behave like that as scum, this kinda makes farto's point stronger, just saying.rEdo wrote:
Reading your ISO looks exactly like how I would play the game as scum: find a wagon that's the most accepted, scumpaint that person into a lynch and repeat the same until it's safe.
He hasn't posted anything scummy, or even remotely suspicious. I see no reason to suspect his alignment.rEdo wrote:
Hello.Ace Timing wrote:
Town:
Amianki
Elaboration not found. Elaboration requested.
I agree, but why this is a town read rather than a null read.Ace Timing wrote:
He hasn't posted anything scummy, or even remotely suspicious. I see no reason to suspect his alignment.
Until he posts something I consider suspicious in a way, I will keep him as town. Since he hasn't posted much. Think of it as "innocent until proven otherwise".rEdo wrote:
I agree, but why this is a town read rather than a null read.Ace Timing wrote:
He hasn't posted anything scummy, or even remotely suspicious. I see no reason to suspect his alignment.
You're just being thick if you can't understand what I said...
I do, you're questioning that scum wouldn't play as I described. In this scenario, I would.
And by saying that you indirectly suggest it's evidence you're not scum, because if you were you would have done something else.
My point is that this is absolutely null regarding your own alignment, because if you really were scum you'd be thinking the same thing, and would consciously avoid doing what you percieve as scummy play.
I don't have a problem with you making a read on Zexion based on this.
My point is that this is absolutely null regarding your own alignment, because if you really were scum you'd be thinking the same thing, and would consciously avoid doing what you percieve as scummy play.
I don't have a problem with you making a read on Zexion based on this.
You're right. I just honestly answered Zexion's question, though. Never planned on indirectly saying that I'm not scum, I just used a sentence that seemed natural to me.
Finally I am here,reading now.
And I am so tired now.
And I am so tired now.
Jess, if you're too tired, it might be better to wait so you can post with a clear head.
Jess, in case you're scum let me give you a tip - voting for a scumpartner is a pretty smart idea, because it will make you look like town 
You don't want get lynched do you?
You don't want get lynched do you?That's a pretty vague question.Tess wrote:
Am I the only one seeing this?
Drezi is right, Jess. If you vote for your partner you save yourself a lot of suspicion.
The fact that Tess is still scumreading me itches me really hard. I would like you to elaborate on your read on me as soon as possible.
The fact that Tess is still scumreading me itches me really hard. I would like you to elaborate on your read on me as soon as possible.
Also Amianki gets townpoints for pushing Tess blatantly like that.
I know what you mean, but that only tells me Jess may be Town this game. Especially because of a thing I mentioned earlier this game.Drezi wrote:
Anyway right now I'm only considering Jess as an alternative lynch, it's due to something I can't mention because of rules, but you can all check ; )
And... not because you are Town?rEdo wrote:
Can you then move your vote to either Tess or SNB, because they're a better lynch for today than me, thank you?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Hmm thinking about it, I might not consider fartownik being scum, even if this did flip town, as I understand his reasoning behind this theory, if he is town, but I would say if it does, one of either SNB or Tess is probably scum.
Hmmm, I remember, but I'm not too sure we should draw conclusions from that.fartownik wrote:
Especially because of a thing I mentioned earlier this game.
Why?fartownik wrote:
The fact that Tess is still scumreading me itches me really hard.
Your past few posts have been quite towny but still not enough for me to drop my suspicions.fartownik wrote:
The fact that Tess is still scumreading me itches me really hard. I would like you to elaborate on your read on me as soon as possible.
That's not enough elaboration. Explain why you're scumreading me please.Tess wrote:
Your past few posts have been quite towny but still not enough for me to drop my suspicions.fartownik wrote:
The fact that Tess is still scumreading me itches me really hard. I would like you to elaborate on your read on me as soon as possible.
Probably aggressive scum-hunting that can be used to conceal being scum, where as long as you suspect someone, have good reasons and push hard, while not staying on just one person, it can give you false townpoints? I'm assuming that's Tess's mindset, because she seems to believe she isn't being considered as town and that she is being victimized by confirmation bias that other supposedly give her posts, looking for scumslips in every nook and crannny that can be exploited, which is frequently employed by scum hiding behind over aggressive fake hunting?
Just a fair guess.
Just a fair guess.
That second ? should be a period, wasn't really looking there.
I had a mild suspicion of you (based on my gut) at the very early stages of the game, but I literally had nothing to go off of, so I figured I'd let it rest. Shortly after that I changed my attention to being wary of SNB, whom I've considered scum from the beginning. After your first few posts I legitimately thought you were town, and I still consider that a pretty plausible thing to happen. I could've just interpreted the mutual push as cooperation (since you were voting me before SNB did without saying anything, and at that time I still assumed there was a scum QT or something similar) while you voted me for town reasons instead.
So, in short; After I voted on SNB, you immediately voted me after, and continued pushing me along with SNB for a good time after that. Why wouldn't I suspect you're scum when you immediately vote me after I vote my primary suspect to get a reaction test, and both of you start pushing me like mad?
I'll be honest though, at this point, if by some miracle SNB got lynched instead of me and he flipped scum, I'm not sure if that would make you more suspicious or not. It really depends on what happens up to then. If three others hadn't started pushing me like that I would've been more certain.
tl;dr After your more recent posts I'm twice as certain about SNB being scum than I am about you.
So, in short; After I voted on SNB, you immediately voted me after, and continued pushing me along with SNB for a good time after that. Why wouldn't I suspect you're scum when you immediately vote me after I vote my primary suspect to get a reaction test, and both of you start pushing me like mad?
I'll be honest though, at this point, if by some miracle SNB got lynched instead of me and he flipped scum, I'm not sure if that would make you more suspicious or not. It really depends on what happens up to then. If three others hadn't started pushing me like that I would've been more certain.
tl;dr After your more recent posts I'm twice as certain about SNB being scum than I am about you.
Ace Timing you summarized my mindset far better than I did ;_;
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