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rustbell

Ota-kun wrote:

Timings in taiko are still broken, might wanna check that out.
someone want to remap
Frank7654321
Star~
SoulPrism
awesome :(
Snowy Dream
基地。。乃什么时候能APP了这图._.
Niz_45
I think there is a problem with Extra ... use Beat Snap Divisor 1/8 (That's all I could think of XD) and move all the notes to 00:02:265...
GamerX4life
Star*
Gcode
im late
Yuzeyun
I did not even star this map !? OAO
Ijah_old
(/°ω°)/☆
deadbeat
everything in all the diffs is way too early. please fix this
hadn't re downloaded. woops
Mara
Star.
K a m a h L
Nice Map ~
Star
TheVileOne
Might as well give this a true mod since everyone just wants to star it....

I'll edit this post with the mod.

P.S. I still want to know what happened to Heavy diff?

Edit: Here's my modding attempt

General
Taiko Oni has unsnapped notes and skips red lines every 4 BPM.

Offsets and maybe even some BPM are off in places. I'm in the process of fixing them.


ReMiX

Ugh.... This will not do as the Easiest difficulty. The spacings are just bad in places. This diff is nearly unplayable. The slower BPM has almost non existant beat, timings are off, unnecessary 1/4th notes.

00:00:315 (1) - This shouldn't start here. It sounds awful. Move here: 00:02:265 - . If you change the speed of that green line to 0.75 and scale the pattern it fits perfectly. It's also a little bit faster which is good. 0.50 is WAY too slow.

Look
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/79336

00:09:015 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - WTF is this. You had a working beat in Heavy why replace it with this garbage beat. The spacing is ridiculous. It shouldn't go from 1.3 to 2.0 snaps. spacings should be kept low and gradually increase in diff not start off annoying.

00:09:915 (1,2) - Beats sound to close together. Reduce the slider to the previous red tick. It sounds a lot better.

I can't mod this any farther until I get the Timing better.


Edit:Why do the diffs end early in the song?

Edit:
(ReMix)
01:12:879 (2) - Burai unapprovable. The direction of the slider needs to show.



Edit 2:


Timings

Try fixing these.

103.995 Offset 11550 (I got 100.5, but it's probably wrong)
104.995 Offset 12288
105.995 Offset 12745
106.995 Offset 13331
107.995 Offset 13891
108.500 Offset 14473
109.995 Offset 15055
110.600 Offset 15621
111.995 Offset 16162
112.995 Offset 16697
113.995 Offset 17277
114.995 Offset 17803
115.995 Offset 18348
116.995 Offset 18882
117.995 Offset 19292
118.995 Offset 19800
119.995 Offset 20202
120.995 Offset 20952
121.995 Offset 21496
122.995 Offset 21860
123.995 Offset 22242
124.995 Offset 22740
125.500 Offset 23256 (Not too sure about this)
126.995 Offset 23755
127.500 Offset 24109
128.995 Offset 24724 (Unsure)
129.995 (Unsure about BPM) Offset 25057 (unsure)
132.995 Offset 25436
140.995? Offset 26393
133.995 Offset 26952
(Haven't given a thorough check in between these timings.)
138.995 Offset 29125
139.995 Offset 29566
140.995 Offset 29994
(timings between here might be fine. I can't say for sure. )
144.995 Offset 31751
(between sections may be fine)
147.995 Offset 33021 (check offset)
(This is getting harder to find timings. I'm going to wait for your feedback for these timings before I fix more. )
It will take me a while to go through all the timing sections.
Topic Starter
rustbell

TheVileOne wrote:

Might as well give this a true mod since everyone just wants to star it....

I'll edit this post with the mod.

P.S. I still want to know what happened to Heavy diff? inb4someonesaid6diffsmax

Edit: Here's my modding attempt

General
Taiko Oni has unsnapped notes and skips red lines every 4 BPM. i deleted those red lines because of http://puu.sh/1HRf

Offsets and maybe even some BPM are off in places. I'm in the process of fixing them.


ReMiX

Ugh.... This will not do as the Easiest difficulty. The spacings are just bad in places. This diff is nearly unplayable. The slower BPM has almost non existant beat, timings are off, unnecessary 1/4th notes. this map is for EXPERTs and did you DO play tsuka's other maps

00:00:315 (1) - This shouldn't start here. It sounds awful. Move here: 00:02:265 - . If you change the speed of that green line to 0.75 and scale the pattern it fits perfectly. It's also a little bit faster which is good. 0.50 is WAY too slow.

Look
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/79336

00:09:015 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - WTF is this. You had a working beat in Heavy why replace it with this garbage beat. The spacing is ridiculous. It shouldn't go from 1.3 to 2.0 snaps. spacings should be kept low and gradually increase in diff not start off annoying. ^

00:09:915 (1,2) - Beats sound to close together. Reduce the slider to the previous red tick. It sounds a lot better. no

I can't mod this any farther until I get the Timing better.


Edit:Why do the diffs end early in the song?

Edit:
(ReMix)
01:12:879 (2) - Burai unapprovable. The direction of the slider needs to show. k



Edit 2:


Timings

Try fixing these.

103.995 Offset 11550 (I got 100.5, but it's probably wrong)
104.995 Offset 12288
105.995 Offset 12745
106.995 Offset 13331
107.995 Offset 13891
108.500 Offset 14473
109.995 Offset 15055
110.600 Offset 15621
111.995 Offset 16162
112.995 Offset 16697
113.995 Offset 17277
114.995 Offset 17803
115.995 Offset 18348
116.995 Offset 18882
117.995 Offset 19292
118.995 Offset 19800
119.995 Offset 20202
120.995 Offset 20952
121.995 Offset 21496
122.995 Offset 21860
123.995 Offset 22242
124.995 Offset 22740
125.500 Offset 23256 (Not too sure about this)
126.995 Offset 23755
127.500 Offset 24109
128.995 Offset 24724 (Unsure)
129.995 (Unsure about BPM) Offset 25057 (unsure)
132.995 Offset 25436
140.995? Offset 26393
133.995 Offset 26952
(Haven't given a thorough check in between these timings.)
138.995 Offset 29125
139.995 Offset 29566
140.995 Offset 29994
(timings between here might be fine. I can't say for sure. )
144.995 Offset 31751
(between sections may be fine)
147.995 Offset 33021 (check offset)
(This is getting harder to find timings. I'm going to wait for your feedback for these timings before I fix more. )
It will take me a while to go through all the timing sections.
IIHHAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYNNEETTTWOOORRKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Hyguys
0.80 sv that taiko , sr.
lolyf
star :)
Kurai
I got the 500th star o/
Tenshi-nyan

KuraiPettan wrote:

I got the 500th star o/
AHHH I wanted to have the 500th star >:(
Hazenkain
they should seriously rank this if it gets 573 stars.. you know, just for the lulz
Katsuri
o
Deathrain_old
I'll just leave this here. Something I made while bored. But god ignore's another is hard. Made it to 505. Sheesh, so close to beating it :)

Download: DM Ashura - deltaMAX (Sprosive) [Death's Reign].osu
KDS
lol
Nilsso
RANK IT!!!
ET sc2
Quite different from other beatmaps~
Farmer_Player
star
什么时候才能modding完成啊?
RhaiizoN
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SapphireGhost
[General]
- Please turn off the seizure warning on every difficulty because as Derekku has written...

Derekku wrote:

It doesn't apply to video.
[Izy's Delta]
I am really unsure about whether the slider below is approvable or not. To be safe, I would make it so that the beginning and ending of sliders does not overlap.



Once this gets to 573, you will storyboard the names of the person who gave each star in this map at the proper BPM. You will.
RhaiizoN
Guys, how many star needed to approved this beatmap? Just asking.
I can't wait to see people playing this maps besides Cookiezi. ^-^
SapphireGhost

RhaiizoN wrote:

Guys, how many star needed to approved this beatmap? Just asking.
I can't wait to see people playing this maps besides Cookiezi. ^-^
The main reason this map is not approved (I think) is because it is very difficult to time correctly, and all beatmaps must be timed near-perfectly. There are also some eccentricities like the slider seen above that are close to being not approvable, so that's probably the reason why this map is not approved yet.
marshallracer

SapphireGhost wrote:


Once this gets to 573, you will storyboard the names of the person who gave each star in this map at the proper BPM. You will.
and why did i forget to star this then?
Raaaaaan_old

SapphireGhost wrote:

[General]

Once this gets to 573, you will storyboard the names of the person who gave each star in this map at the proper BPM. You will.
There are more than 473 stars already.
Kitsunemimi

Raaaaaan wrote:

SapphireGhost wrote:

[General]

Once this gets to 573, you will storyboard the names of the person who gave each star in this map at the proper BPM. You will.
There are more than 473 stars already.
He said 573, not 473.
hihu2
star :D
Ibuki Suika
还差65,到了573真的能app吗?
Tanzureir
Good one! Star!
期待APP!
i am super blue cat
star!!!!!!!!!!!!
YuZuKi Kenny
SO HARD........- -

Star :?
Sir Minelli
I think To Zanarkand got beaten.

Also Kudosu Star~
Emdyion
I MUST MAKE A DIFFICULTY FOR THI-
Wait, Last Full Submit? Oh well :P

Starred anyways :P

And,

Kitsunemimi wrote:

He said 573, not 473.
The beatmap starts with BPM 100, so 473 is the right number. Or 474.
SapphireGhost

Emdyion wrote:

I MUST MAKE A DIFFICULTY FOR THI-
Wait, Last Full Submit? Oh well :P

Starred anyways :P

And,

Kitsunemimi wrote:

He said 573, not 473.
The beatmap starts with BPM 100, so 473 is the right number. Or 474.
Guest difficulties are Standard Submits, but there are sadly already six.
Card N'FoRcE
Ok, let me say that I'm considering giving this a complete check because this map deserves to be approved for the effort it took.
Still, i don't know what I'll be able to do but i will try.

But since i can't read 31 pages (;_;) i want to ask a few questions before continuing my modding:
  1. Why does the Taiko Oni use different timing? It seems like 3 out of 4 sections were removed: did you do this to avoid something from breaking in Taiko?
  2. Also, i have the Stepmania file of deltaMAX and the timing seems to be done in a entirely different way, (but actually i think that the current one you're using is better): did you already try it in the past to see if it worked correctly?
  3. Why did you remove the old video+SB, it was way cooler! It also gives the BPM counter if you disable the video. The new video is from a DeltaMax with a different color scheme (from the DDR X2 version) so it feels... weird, unless you change the background as well. ;_;
Some more little specific stuff in the meanwhile:
- [ReMix] This difficulty has some patterns that may seem weird at first, but i grasped the logic so i think they're good.
00:37:254 (4,5) - this may get confused for a 3/4 delay due to the music and the previous pattern. Try this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/93380
- [lzy's Delta] 00:13:111 (2) - move it up-right a bit to make it exactly between the sliders
- [lzy's Delta] 01:30:735 - missing beat here?
- [lzy's Delta] 01:35:077 (11) - new combo?
100ACC_old
star~~
Shiki
Staaar~
Ekoro
Holy shi--

57 stars left !
Topic Starter
rustbell

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

Ok, let me say that I'm considering giving this a complete check because this map deserves to be approved for the effort it took.
Still, i don't know what I'll be able to do but i will try.

But since i can't read 31 pages (;_;) i want to ask a few questions before continuing my modding:
  1. Why does the Taiko Oni use different timing? It seems like 3 out of 4 sections were removed: did you do this to avoid something from breaking in Taiko?
    They looks terrible.
  2. Also, i have the Stepmania file of deltaMAX and the timing seems to be done in a entirely different way, (but actually i think that the current one you're using is better): did you already try it in the past to see if it worked correctly?
    >_>30ms off at the end

  3. Why did you remove the old video+SB, it was way cooler! It also gives the BPM counter if you disable the video. The new video is from a DeltaMax with a different color scheme (from the DDR X2 version) so it feels... weird, unless you change the background as well. ;_;
    it has some trouble with the old video.. seems to be lost frames or other orz
    i tried a lot to solve this but i failed
    you can check it out >> http://www.mediafire.com/?7ri6h8rf38sg633
    example: 1:03

Some more little specific stuff in the meanwhile:
- [ReMix] This difficulty has some patterns that may seem weird at first, but i grasped the logic so i think they're good. this is his mapping style
00:37:254 (4,5) - this may get confused for a 3/4 delay due to the music and the previous pattern. Try this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/93380 this is his eggpa1n mapping style moved
- [lzy's Delta] 00:13:111 (2) - move it up-right a bit to make it exactly between the sliders k
- [lzy's Delta] 01:30:735 - missing beat here? added
- [lzy's Delta] 01:35:077 (11) - new combo? k
Speedy Cat_old
'ㅅ'b
Raimon
come on?
Saten
still not? ;w;
Nilsso
Retarded Bats =), approve this. You guys approved rainbow tylenol but not this? wtf.
maosuke
good!
Card N'FoRcE
So, i discussed the Taiko diff a bit with other BATs, and here's the final conclusion:

SPOILER
[...]
14.45 <Card_N'FoRcE> : it's the fact that Taiko misses some sections because they screwup the layout while playing
14.45 <deepsea> : :O
14.46 <Card_N'FoRcE> : you all know that map has 473 timing sections
14.46 <Card_N'FoRcE> : the taiko essentially uses only ~126
14.47 <deepsea> : I'll redl it first o.o
14.47 <deepsea> : but dont have much time today
14.47 <deepsea> : damn homework <_<
14.48 <Card_N'FoRcE> : I'm listening to it at 25% and it still sounds ok
14.50 <Card_N'FoRcE> : OH NOW i get it
14.50 <Card_N'FoRcE> : essentially the beats are snapped to the 473 sections
14.50 <Card_N'FoRcE> : but he removed some the timing sections that screwed up the layout
14.50 <Lybydose> : deltamax is nothing but a single offset and 100 BPM, then increases by one BPM every beat
14.50 <Card_N'FoRcE> : yeah i know
14.51 <Card_N'FoRcE> : the timing feels really good while playing
14.51 <Card_N'FoRcE> : i'm only asking about the thing he did in the taiko diff
14.51 <Card_N'FoRcE> : i actually think it's legit, since the beats are snapped to the correct timing
14.51 <Lybydose> : so all the notes in taiko are unsnapped, but they "would be" snapped had you added the sections back in?
14.52 <Card_N'FoRcE> : they're not all unsnapped, also yeah
14.52 <Card_N'FoRcE> : they would be snapped with all 473 sections
14.52 <Card_N'FoRcE> : but having all those sections screwups the taiko layout
[...]
15.02 <Card_N'FoRcE> : yeah i checked
15.03 <Card_N'FoRcE> : using all the original 473 reports 0 unsnapped beats
15.03 <Card_N'FoRcE> : *473 sections
15.03 <Card_N'FoRcE> : and since removing the other sections makes the layout playable, i'm sure it's better to leave it as it is
15.04 <Card_N'FoRcE> : I'll write about this in the bubble post

So, considerting that the timing is actually ok and that thing is needed to fix Taiko gameplay, I feel safe at bubbling this.

Bubble #1

Nilsso wrote:

Retarded Bats =), approve this. You guys approved rainbow tylenol but not this? wtf.
Cool, i try to give the map a chance without noone asking me because I think it deserves to be carefully checked and this is what i get.
Thank you, I appreciate your support.
galvenize
Did I miss something?

It's still offtimed here :/.


EDIT: deleted and redownloaded, everything works fine.
Ekoro
Holy shit !

inb4 pop
inb4 rank
Nilsso

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

Nilsso wrote:

Retarded Bats =), approve this. You guys approved rainbow tylenol but not this? wtf.
Cool, i try to give the map a chance without noone asking me because I think it deserves to be carefully checked and this is what i get.
Thank you, I appreciate your support.
You guys approve alot of bad maps, and that only because you are friends with the mapmakers. This map has 1 million stars and 1 million people wanting it to be ranked, its been around forever. Giving it a fair chance? lol.
APPROVE IT!
Noobita
I feel bad that it was delayed just because of the taiko diff 0_0
go~
OnosakiHito

Nilsso wrote:

[...], friends with the mapmakers. This map has 1 million stars and 1 million people wanting it to be ranked, its been around forever. Giving it a fair chance? lol.
APPROVE IT!
Some how it is right, or not? The map could be really approved few months ago.

Well, thank you for bubble Card N' Force. Can't wait to play it.
Shiirn

Nilsso wrote:

Bullshit
The problem with this map is the absurd amount of timing sections it uses on top of the fact that the mapper himself doesn't care one way or another. Don't ever make any sort of assumption about the work Bats do while you have no clue how mapping works and wouldn't be able to find your way out of a finish hitsound with a map.

Go suck a few cocks, since your attitude sucks.


I'm glad to see someone petitioned a bit for the timing fuckery, cnf. kudos to you.
Ibuki Suika
CNF真尼玛立功了
fanzhen0019
APPPROVE IT!
居然泡了..

EDIT: nothing
Kanon
CNF u a awesome.

Can the map get 573 star before app?
Deif

Kanon wrote:

CNF u a awesome.

Can the map get 573 star before app?
Begin spamming with pinky stars ;p
Ikillforpies
I love this map!
TheVileOne
just approve it. I mean noone is going to complain about it.
LaceWingfield
525th star priority~!
Ephoenix
CNF really awesome.!
xsrsbsns
history in the making
Nymph
Finally bubbled.... amazing
DeeN
F@CK U SPROSIVE
Alace
說好的573呢!!!
Snowy Dream

Alace wrote:

說好的573呢!!!
强烈要求 573 stars!
Plz rank at 573 stars =A=
Gotori
wow
star~
TheVileOne
Seriously stop saying it should be ranked at 573 stars. You should want it approved before then. After all once it is approved the star count disappears. Also the maps don't even reach 573. It just stops at 570 and the song isn't mapped up to 573...
jexux
star 8-)
Avedas
star :)
Deif

TheVileOne wrote:

Seriously stop saying it should be ranked at 573 stars. You should want it approved before then. After all once it is approved the star count disappears. Also the maps don't even reach 573. It just stops at 570 and the song isn't mapped up to 573...
ORLY?

Louis Cyphre
this will reach 573 and i'm pretty sure someone will add one more star haha
HineX
add one more star 8-)
Shiirn

TheVileOne wrote:

After all once it is approved the star count disappears.
Not anymore. Have you looked at ranked maps lately?
thelewa
contributing to the cause
Tashi_Scarlett[x]
more 1 star
Leader
;)
HakuNoKaemi
540/573 :3
TheVileOne

Shiirn wrote:

TheVileOne wrote:

After all once it is approved the star count disappears.
Not anymore. Have you looked at ranked maps lately?
Eh i checked. Still doesn't give star count.


Also why does the song continue past the 573 bpm mark? Are you saying that it stays 573 BPM for several seconds?


01:54:328 - where the diffs end

01:56:248 - end of the song?

Why?
Cheer-no
Ehh, why not. Star~
AndreasHD
Good and hard map .. I love it :D
STAR!
_Kiva
573!573!573!
Topic Starter
rustbell

TheVileOne wrote:

Also why does the song continue past the 573 bpm mark? Are you saying that it stays 573 BPM for several seconds?


01:54:328 - where the diffs end

01:56:248 - end of the song?

Why?
match at video
kanpakyin
573 Star!!!

A star for you.

my 1000 post also ._<
Gaiety
Gogogo aaaaaa
Reverie_old
star :)
ziin
I'll drop 27 stars on this right before it's approved if someone PMs me, but I have a feeling whichever bat ends up ranking it would do the same.

I could do it now, but I know some newb would drop the 574th star on it.
Niz_45
Yayyy the timing is ok now :D

~Star~
SoulPrism
can't wait for ranking :D
DeeN
U NEED IT

ALL HAIL BEMANI

IT'S THE LEGEND OF MUG
loveFantasy
dantengMax
Komeiji Yuki

Louis Cyphre wrote:

this will reach 573 and i'm pretty sure someone will add one more star haha
Or 572 then throw a kudo star to skip 573 :P

star ;)
Nixnez
So I heard you need star. One at a time? XD
Raimon
hm now that is all good timed and fixed can it be aproved? ^^ I'ts one of the most interesting aproval maps i've seen.
DJNightmare
Many BATs might be thinking of approving it right after the 573th star, i just know it >.<
Its like MAAAAAAD around here XD
Hyguys
Let's do it.
d = red (normal only)
D = big red (normal with finish)
k = blue (clap)
K = big blue (clap with finish)
Taiko
Resnap all notes.
Make timing the same. Screw 4/4 Time Signature.
00:09:915 (1) - D
00:10:360 (2) - k
00:12:112 (9) - Delete.
00:26:046 (9,10,11,12,1) - ddkkk
00:34:444 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - dkdkkk
00:36:746 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Are you sure this is 1/3?
00:46:530 (7,8,9) - kdk
01:13:088 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - ddkkddkkdd
01:54:363 (X) - What is up with this timing section here? just end it on the last red one
Since you used 1/1 for the ''streams'' on the 300+ BPM sections , i highly suggest SV 0,75x.
Yay +1 Star~
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