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Rameses B - Mountains (feat. Veela)

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Topic Starter
-Tochi

Underforest wrote:


(Click in the image for map I need mod back)

Mountain
  1. 00:30:302 (2,5) - Not good spacing I like the pattern tho D:
  2. 01:04:588 (1,2,3,4,5) - This? It flows better like it already is.
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4883508
  3. 01:39:217 - Normal whistle It's already Normal Sampleset o.o
  4. 02:28:939 (1) - Add another reverse arrow so the slider finish correctly on rhythm There's no piano there..
  5. 03:21:044 - 03:22:758 - sb/throught.png? what do you mean?
  6. 05:02:538 (1) - Same as 02:28:939 (1) Same answer :<
  7. 05:30:044 - 05:36:816 - Spinner? Not needed xD

Wow, I noted your map is very clean. :)
GL
Thanks for the mod!
Zexous
Idk if I just never saw it before or if it was added recently but that's a sexy SB and also this map has improved a whole lot good job
Smokeyjrs
This needs to be ranked already its an amazing map for this song :D:D
Topic Starter
-Tochi

Zexous wrote:

Idk if I just never saw it before or if it was added recently but that's a sexy SB and also this map has improved a whole lot good job
Thank you o3o

Smokeyjrs wrote:

This needs to be ranked already its an amazing map for this song :D:D
Thanks, soon :3
riffy
Did some stuff via IRC

Changes:
  1. Minor slidrshape fixes
  2. SB fixes (it's 2mbs smaller now!)
  3. Something about playability of the difficulty was advised
17:38 -Tochi: Hello
17:38 Bakari: Hey
17:38 -Tochi: are you up for m4m?
17:39 Bakari: I don't take any m4m requests, sorry
17:39 -Tochi: i see :/
17:40 -Tochi: what about NM?
17:40 -Tochi: it's for a popped map
17:40 Bakari: Give that a try, but most probably I'll refuse since I am really low on motivation
17:40 -Tochi: okay, i hope the best! https://osu.ppy.sh/s/320504
17:41 Bakari: Geee, haven't you requested that one already?
17:41 -Tochi: i have? D:
17:41 -Tochi: i don't remember, sorry if i have :c
17:41 Bakari: I don't remember for sure
17:42 Bakari: I could check it when it was qualified
17:42 -Tochi: so i have to try and find another BN/QAT?
17:44 Bakari: What is its current icon?
17:45 -Tochi: popped
17:45 -Tochi: it was qualified last year
17:46 -Tochi: and i don't think Chaoslitz wants to support it again D:
17:46 Bakari: What made you think so?
17:48 -Tochi: Chaoslitz didn't accept my request last time i asked :/
17:48 -Tochi: and is busy with exams now
17:49 -Tochi: "Stop requesting until my exam ends, otherwise your request will be ignored even when I am free to mod"
17:53 Bakari: Give me like 15 minutes and I'll have a look into it
17:54 -Tochi: okay, i really appreciate it!
18:04 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/713190 Rameses B - Mountains (feat. Veela) [Mountain]]
18:05 Bakari: General stuff, but 02:53:617 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - this part here gives a huge spike in terms of difficulty. http://puu.sh/okl4I.jpg
18:05 Bakari: Are you sure you want that pattern here?
18:06 -Tochi: i think it fits with the song
18:07 -Tochi: i don't know if it would be better with less spacing
18:07 -Tochi: it kinsa builds up for the instense part after the stream
18:07 Bakari: If you think it is reasonable, than we are good to go
18:07 -Tochi: kinda*
18:07 -Tochi: okay
18:09 Bakari: I think sb/minimalist.png (the circle) has a bit of glitching on it's borders
18:10 Bakari: Yeah, it does. Probably because PS or other software you were using has cut some pixels out of it
18:10 Bakari: Or because there is not a single pixel of transparent border
18:11 -Tochi: yeah
18:11 -Tochi: i see that
18:11 -Tochi: i can fix it
18:11 Bakari: Cool
18:11 Bakari: I'll try to continue checking the SB now
18:12 -Tochi: okay
18:14 Bakari: May I ask you why sb/mountain2 and all it's shades are png files?
18:15 -Tochi: there's no reason to it
18:15 -Tochi: i can fix that
18:15 -Tochi: and rename it to jåg in the .osb quickly
18:15 -Tochi: jpG*
18:15 Bakari: Each png is about 0,8mb big or even heavier, using jpg can save us.. ehh, I'm bad at math but it'll be at least 2 megs of free space for sure
18:16 -Tochi: yup
18:16 -Tochi: im bad at math too dw
18:18 Bakari: 02:56:358 - have a look at the spectrum here
18:18 Bakari: Isn't it flashing too fast? At first it gave me an impression that something was broken
18:19 Bakari: Or is it just me?
18:20 -Tochi: let me take a look
18:21 -Tochi: i don't see it before 176444
18:21 -Tochi: 02:56:444 - *
18:21 -Tochi: the colors are going crazy lol
18:22 -Tochi: i could change this and make it more natiral
18:22 -Tochi: natural*
18:22 Bakari: It's your map, so you are free to do anything you believe to be a good thing for the map
18:25 -Tochi: hmm, i don't think it's necessary
18:25 -Tochi: it was my first SB using tools and all, so it might be a bit poor
18:25 -Tochi: but it's not bad enough to be changed
18:30 Bakari: I don't really get that mindset, since I myself would never let an imperfect map of mine lay in the Ranked section
18:30 Bakari: but oh well, I am here not to lecture you
18:33 -Tochi: hmm, i don't want to change it :<
18:33 -Tochi: brb, restarting, need to reload the sprites 100%
18:34 -Tochi: ok back
18:38 Bakari: 00:33:731 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the fact that each of the sliders has it's own number of repeats turns thins part into a guessing game
18:39 Bakari: How about replacing the slider with a single circle at 00:43:674 - where the beat actually is?
18:39 Bakari: I'd rather make it clickable, than have a slider starting on some ghosty note
18:39 -Tochi: yeah i will fix that
18:40 Bakari: 00:45:902 (1) - what made you use a 3/4 slider here, instead of an 1/2 slider and 2 notes? I'd prefer 00:46:074 - to have some more emphasis, rather than a plain slidertick
18:41 -Tochi: i don't think the repeat sliders are hard to get, they play well with the song, and that makes it easier to follow the rhythm on them
18:41 Bakari: but why not use sliders with the same amount of repeats?
18:41 -Tochi: i was following the vocal
18:42 Bakari: it's your right, let's move on
18:42 Bakari: 00:51:902 (3,4,5) - I do not hear any reason for those sliders to be extended. Care to explain?
18:42 -Tochi: if i use it with same repeats, it will only follow the vocal which is boring
18:43 Bakari: 00:57:731 (6) - certainly should not be extended.
18:43 -Tochi: i folloed the vocal there too, it's stronger in my ears
18:43 -Tochi: the beat here 00:52:159 - can be unmuted because there's a drum there, but it will sound weird to play
18:43 Bakari: But the vocals also have a clear and audible fade sound at 1/2 snap
18:44 -Tochi: hmm, i guess i could change it tbh
18:44 -Tochi: but not the first extended one since there's a beat on the end of it
18:44 Bakari: 01:04:159 (3) - can't really hear anything behind this circle
18:45 Bakari: 01:05:959 (1) - wouldn't it be better to slowdown this just like the previous slider?
18:45 Bakari: It still goes with the vocals, so slowing it down makes perfect sense
18:47 -Tochi: the drums there are stronger than the vocal, i could make a longer slider until the kiai starts
18:47 -Tochi: but the fast slider at the start of the kiai is too sudden after such a slow slider
18:48 Bakari: the kiai fountain is a good enough warning of a velocity change
18:48 Bakari: not to mention the music itself giving a good hint to the players
18:49 -Tochi: i could make the SV 0,60x at least
18:50 -Tochi: making it slower doesn't play that well with the flow
18:52 -Tochi: yeah, it feels good with 0,60x
18:54 Bakari: 02:30:290 (1) - any reason to curve it this way?
18:55 -Tochi: not really
18:55 -Tochi: it looks good like that in my eyes
18:55 -Tochi: and a bit unique
18:58 Bakari: But it has no connection with the actual sound
18:59 -Tochi: do u have another suggestion? :o
19:00 -Tochi: 04:09:302 (2,1) - this is unstacked, i just stacked it lol
19:02 Bakari: ever considered a plain arc-shaped or straight slider as an alternative?
19:03 -Tochi: yeah
19:03 Bakari: 02:33:048 (1) - you guessed it
19:04 Bakari: 02:34:759 (1,2,3,4,5) - they sound exactly the same, this would make more sense to keep spacing consistent
19:05 -Tochi: is this good.. http://puu.sh/okoJW/0f9b840ad9.jpg
19:05 Bakari: What is up with the curve in the end? What does it do?
19:06 Bakari: In my opinion it creates an unnatural break of flow/slowdown which has absolutely nothing to do with the song
19:06 -Tochi: x.x | let's just make it simple
19:06 -Tochi: arc-shaped
19:06 -Tochi: the third circle is not exactly the same sound as the other two
19:07 -Tochi: it's lighter
19:08 Bakari: alright
19:08 Bakari: 03:20:359 (6,7) - these two have nothing in the blue ticks, there is nothing that'd support 1/4 sliders
19:10 Bakari: 03:40:245 (1,4) - and yet again I do not see any reason for those to be extended
19:12 -Tochi: the 1/4 sliders with muted ends shows how strong the beat are there, two circles would be weaker
19:12 -Tochi: if you know what i mean
19:13 Bakari: You know, we have hitsounds to emphasize stronger beats
19:13 Bakari: 3/4 sliders ignoring reasonable 1/2 beats are not making it any better
19:16 -Tochi: alright, i will fix those
19:18 Bakari: 04:54:291 (1) - same thing about the slidercuve. that move in the end makes me feel quite uneasy
19:19 Bakari: 05:03:889 (1,1) -
19:19 Bakari: that's pretty much it
19:20 -Tochi: ok, i fixed it

Overall it feels quite alright, although generally minor drawbacks here and there leave an unpleasant overall impression.

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Best of luck!
Topic Starter
-Tochi
Thank you Bakari for the irc!
Updated
Dreamtwolf
StoryBoard:
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00:44:017 (3) - on this slider, the lyric here should be "Oh."
01:54:645 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - on this section "Moving mountains" should be here
02:09:731 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^^^^
02:37:159 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - "There is so much we can learn about the universe" could be here but your choice.
02:43:417 (1) - "It is the fun (tier or thing?) about the future" is also optional
02:55:074 (1) - "20 Seconds!" is also optional
03:07:330 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - On this part i couldn't hear him :(
03:15:558 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - "Through the Mountains" should be added here
You added "Oh." 03:39:559 (1) - here but not 00:44:017 (3)? You must have forgot.
Same with "Moving Mountains" 03:44:359 (1) - lol
03:59:616 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - "Through the mountains" should be here
05:29:273 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - "I seal em'"should be here

Main Singer ||| Man talking (REALLY optional, I actually had to hear closely to see what he said)

Source: https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Rames ... /Mountains (don't blame me pls)
I hope I am not drunk when I wrote this. I pray :/
Topic Starter
-Tochi

Dreamtwolf wrote:

StoryBoard
Thank you much for still supporting me with unexpected mods!
But yeah, i only used lyrics for certain parts :/
I appreciate the help though!
Zexous
00:44:702 - in this part, the smoke.png you used, its borders are visible so you can see squares flying across the screen in play and it looks bad, some image editing should be done to fix that
also tbh the thought.png at 00:25:502 - is really tacky and I feel like it doesn't belong
Topic Starter
-Tochi

Zexous wrote:

00:44:702 - in this part, the smoke.png you used, its borders are visible so you can see squares flying across the screen in play and it looks bad, some image editing should be done to fix that
also tbh the thought.png at 00:25:502 - is really tacky and I feel like it doesn't belong
Fixed the borders of the smoke, but i'll keep the thought xd
-Lunatic
plz nerf the second spinner, it's too hard, i usually get 100s ;-;
btw really nice map!!! :D
Topic Starter
-Tochi

strInsert wrote:

plz nerf the second spinner, it's too hard, i usually get 100s ;-;
btw really nice map!!! :D
You can SS it one day..
Thanks!
vetochka
road to unban :(
- Bicolini -
this map needs and deserves to be ranked.
loloplayer420_DELETED
Why its not even qualified yet?!?
Squilly

loloplayer420 wrote:

Why its not even qualified yet?!?
The mapper got banned.
Zexous

get memed kiddo wrote:

loloplayer420 wrote:

Why its not even qualified yet?!?
The mapper got banned.
RIP
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