This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010년 9월 17일 금요일 at 오후 10:28:22

Artist: Nico Nico Chorus
Title: Melt
Source: Nico Nico Douga
Tags: hatsune miku nico douga chorus samiljul muya KRZY
BPM: 170
Filesize: 4858kb
Play Time: 01:38
Difficulties Available:

1. 31's Taiko Oni (4.78 stars, 542 notes)
2. KRZY's Easy (2.14 stars, 177 notes)
3. Muya's Insane (4.99 stars, 610 notes)
4. Normal (2.6 stars, 295 notes)

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My first ranked-aimed map.

[Thanks to]
samiljul - guest diff(Taiko Oni)
Muya - guest diff(Insane)
KRZY - guest diff(Easy)

Edit 1 (7/1) - brikel's mod
Edit 2 (7/22) - Odaril's mod
Edit 3 (7/23) - Odaril's mod & Tatsuo's mod
Edit 4 (7/25) - Odaril's IRC mod
Edit 5 (7/27) - Leorda's mod & impossiblexu's mod
Edit 6 (7/28) - Graven's mod
Edit 7 (7/31) - wmfchris's mod
Edit 8 (8/24) - Mafiamaster's mod (yay XD)
Edit 9 (8/25) - James's mod

TnT Authentic map

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [31's Taiko Oni].osu

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[ O v O ]

you don't use storyboard...So you must remove "NicoNico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2).osb" file
And you will fix same offset with 31's difficulty

[Normal]

00:21:220 (1) - Fix this point and move 00:23:691 to 00:24:220 ?
01:42:749 (4) - Add circle.
01:42:926 (1) - Move 01:43:102 to fixing the end point.
02:56:161 (1) - Move 02:55:808 to fixing the end point.

Umm...Maybe the spacing is ok.. but hitsound is bad.
I don't know your hitsound pattern. So you should be fixed hitsound regularly.

It's good song. Star~~

Okay. So first mod is all cleared...

[Change Log - 7/1]
Osb file deleted.
Offset fixed(1,455). And for that, I added some notes.
All hitsound removed. I'll work on them soon.

00:21:220 (1) - Moved the end to 00:24:043. I think the gap between 00:24:220 and 00:24:396 is too small.
01:42:749 (4), 01:42:926(1) - Cleared.
01:45:925 (7) - New combo.
02:56:161 (1) - Auto got 63000 in the test. Oh gosh... Anyway, completed.

Thanks for your mod, brikel!
Take kudosu for a present XD

gl

+star lol

Just for keeping ;_;

Hi,
I didnt see a SB, so delete the .osu and full submit, unless im wrong

otherwise, i found nothing to comment on

Edit: err.. my bad, meant the .osb

roflninja wrote:

Hi,
I didnt see a SB, so delete the .osu and full submit, unless im wrong

otherwise, i found nothing to comment on

uh.. Isn't that .osb? -_-;
Anyway, thanks for spending your time. I'll give kudosu to you.

...근데 저게 왜 들어가있었지;

:>

수고하셨음!

BG

Add muya to tags.

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [Muya's Insane].osu

Muya wrote:

BG

SPOILER

Add muya to tags.

Thanks for advance! XD (gave kudosu)

update

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [Muya's Insane].osu

update

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [Muya's Insane].osu

KRZY's Easy

Sorry it took such a long time ;_;

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [KRZY's Easy].osu

Major issues in the map: it is highly recommended to fix them.
Minor issue in the map: you don't have to follow them exactly, but I recommend you to.
Suggestions: those are personal opinions, feel free to follow them or not.
Comments.
If there's one red line in the whole mod post, or three blue lines, I won't star the map.

KRZY's Easy:
Very first advice: work with grid level 3. Re-check the whole map using the lvl 3 grid, I'm sure I'll find many spacing issues - no matter how important they are. I'm not going to point them out unless they're important.
Second advice: map the whole song. Rules are now that all diffs must be the same length.
Besides that the easy is pretty nice.

Normal:
Work with grid lvl 3 and re-check all your spacing.
00:15:572 (1) - [spacing] Too close to previous object.
00:38:160 (1) - ^
01:07:454 (1) - ^
01:08:866 (1) - ^
01:24:749 (2) - [form] Move it one grid (lvl 3) down so it lines up with (1).
01:26:160 (3) - [form] Move it two grids (lvl 3) right so it lines up with (2).
02:55:807 (1) - 12 seconds spinner ._. it fits the song though. Make it start one whole beat later and end 03:07:631 - here. Remove the Finish hitsound.
03:23:337 (3) - [sound] No hitsound.
03:23:690 (4) - [sound] Whistle.
03:57:749 (1) - [spacing] Too close to previous combo.

I will mod the rest later, sorry >_< I need to start the guest diff.
Also, one more note: don't use such aggressive angles on sliders, use Bezier's smooth curves; the song is smooth and soft, so should be the sliders.

Odaril wrote:

Normal:
[Red lines]
00:15:572 (1) - [spacing] Too close to previous object. = fixed with 00:16:631 (2)
00:38:160 (1) - ^ = fixed 00:36:749 (4)
01:07:454 (1) - ^ = fixed 01:07:454~ (1,2,3,4)
01:08:866 (1) - ^ = fixed
03:57:749 (1) - [spacing] Too close to previous combo. = fixed 03:57:749 (1,2,3,4)

[Green Lines]
01:24:749 (2) - [form] Move it one grid (lvl 3) down so it lines up with (1). = fixed
01:26:160 (3) - [form] Move it two grids (lvl 3) right so it lines up with (2). = fixed
02:55:807 (1) - 12 seconds spinner ._. it fits the song though. Make it start one whole beat later and end 03:07:631 - here. Remove the Finish hitsound. = fixed
03:23:337 (3) - [sound] No hitsound. = sorry. ignored.
03:23:690 (4) - [sound] Whistle. = ^

Ok, all cleared on Normal.
"Work with grid lvl 3 and re-check all your spacing" made me spend time, but that's okay. Because it seems better now.
I'll tell DJ KRZY to finish his diff

*Moved to WIP because the lack of [Hard].

Major issues in the map: it is highly recommended to fix them.
Minor issue in the map: you don't have to follow them exactly, but I recommend you to.
Suggestions: those are personal opinions, feel free to follow them or not.
Comments.
If there's one red line in the whole mod post, or three blue lines, I won't star the map.

Overall:
Combo colours make no sense. You should try to find combo colours that fit the music, background, or video.
Since the song is very soft, you shouldn't use any Normal hitsound nor clap hitsound. Those are really aggressive and noisy and don't fit the song at all. Same for sliders: sharp turns are aggressively ugly. Try to make them smooth and pleasant to see. Same goes for patterns.

Easy:
Waiting for fixes.

Normal:
00:01:455 (1) - [form] Try to make this symmetrical ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/17940
00:12:749 (1) - [sound] Whistle hitsound on the beginning.
00:14:160 (3) - [sound] Replace Clap with Whistle.
00:15:572 (1) - [sound] Whistle hitsound on the beginning.
00:16:984 (3) - [sound] No hitsound.
00:17:337 (4) - [sound] Whistle hitsound.
00:18:396 (1) - [form] SHARP ANGLES FJREKTFBEUITH >_> I told you to smoothen all sliders. *stops raging* also Whistle hitsound in the beginning.
00:19:807 (3) - [sound] Replace Clap with Whistle.
00:25:454 (2) - ^
Replace all Clap hitsounds by Whistles hitsounds. Once again, the song is very soft to the ears, and Clap hitsounds are too aggressive. Use Whistles hitsounds on high-pitched notes, too.
00:36:749 (4) - [form] Make it symmetrical http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/17943
01:00:749 (1) - [form] Ugly slider. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/17944
01:03:572 (7) - ^ http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/17948
01:54:396 (1) - [form] SHARP ANGLES KFHZIFUGYEIFHBK >_> smoothen it (click it, then compose > slider curve type > Bézier)..
02:09:925 (5) - [form] Ugly slider. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/17950
02:20:160 (7) - ^ and use the same screenshot to make it nicer
02:31:455 (8) - Ugly and isn't snapped.
02:33:925 (4,5) - [form] Same as 02:09:925 and same screenshot.
02:42:396 (6) - [form] Make it Bézier type curve.
02:54:396 - [pattern] Fill in this break.
02:56:513 (1) - [timing] Make it start three 1/4 ticks earlier ( 02:55:984 - ) and end at the same point 03:07:631 -.
03:30:396 (1) - [form] Same as 02:09:925 and same screenshot.
03:33:572 (7) - [form] Very ugly. I think you should even move the rest of the pattern down.
03:38:866 (1) - Sharp angles ;_; but the turns follow the music, so it's fine
03:41:690 (4) - [form] Same as 02:33:925.

31's Taiko Oni:
Why doesn't this diff have a background ?
...
- Doesn't fit the song.
- Doesn't have the same length as the other diffs.
- Follows nothing in the song.
I really don't like this diff.

Muya's Insane:
It needs a background.
Also I think this is overmapped.
Add kiai times exactly the same as Normal's.
00:43:807 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - This pattern is really really confusing and most notes are partially or completely hidden by something else.
00:53:690 (1,3) - Those sliders are really awful.
01:47:337 (1,2,1,2) - SHARP ANGLES JFIREUOEFBIUEO >_>
01:26:160 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - No. Nothing in the song lets anyone think this can be possible.
Also I'll stop modding the insane here.

update

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [Muya's Insane].osu

Odaril wrote:

31's Taiko Oni:
Why doesn't this diff have a background ?
...
- Doesn't fit the song.
- Doesn't have the same length as the other diffs.
- Follows nothing in the song.
I really don't like this diff.

This map is Authentic Taiko map from Taiko no Tatsujin. Isn't "31's Taiko", "31's Taiko Oni".

muyayayayayya

Hai, here's my mod~

[Overall]
Delete the .osb and full submit

[KRZY's Easy]
This difficulty is good, but it's so SHORT. And I don't want you to map an easy to the length of the other difficulties because that's TOO LONG.
I'm never satisfied

[Muya's Insane]
Wow this really is insane.
Some sight-read problems but it's okay once you play through the map a bit.
Have a star.
*star*

Phew! I was worried about 'too many mods' case
Anyway.

1. Full Resubmited. Damn system.
2. I told KRZY to finish his Easy. I think it'll take a little of time.
3. Just edited following Odaril's red and blue. Green part? Tomorrow. I don't have free time now.

[Normal]
Lead in time을 0.5초 정도로 두시는게 좋을 것 같습니다.

This is all for me, good job

resized



[31's Taiko Oni]
Add "samiljul muya" to tags.

Thanks to resizing and yellow star.

*I usually accept if suggestion isn't bad. Yup.

IRC mod.

Seems good now, star.

update

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [Muya's Insane].osu

Updated, mapped more. Didn't see any apparent "spacing inconsistencies" btw.

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [KRZY's Easy].osu

DJ KRZY wrote:

Updated, mapped more. Didn't see any apparent "spacing inconsistencies" btw.

수고했음.
그나저나 한글로 적지 그랬냐.

Annyeonghaseyo

[General]
1) Delete "Melt" in tags, since that word in Title
2) Delete OSB

[KRZY's Easy]
Would be better if the countdown is off, like other diff

[Normal]
No clap and finish hitsound??

00:01:455 (1) - Make symetric?
00:20:690 (1) - Move forward to red tick and end at 00:24:043
00:26:866 (2) - Make symetric?
02:15:572 (1) - Not stack with 5 at end
02:55:984 (1) - The spinner are toooooo long
03:38:866 (1) - Make symetric?

[Muya's Insane]
02:12:749 (1) - Unrankable slider (Don't let the endpoint overlap startpoint, it could be the player can't follow the path)
02:15:925 (B) - Break are too short, remove it?

Not bad
STAR

[Muya's Insane]
02:12:749 (1) - Unrankable slider (Don't let the endpoint overlap startpoint, it could be the player can't follow the path) ok
02:15:925 (B) - Break are too short, remove it? ok

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [Muya's Insane].osu

Hi~

My suggestions:

[general]

Add "DJ KRZY"to the tags.

[KRZY's Easy]

• 00:19:807 (2): Add finish at the beginning
  00:57:925 (1,2): Finish
  02:14:160 (1,2): Finish

[Normal]

• 00:09:925 (1): Remove finish
  00:12:749 (1): Add finish at the beginning
  00:24:073 : Spinner ends here
  00:57:925 (1): Remove finish
  01:00:749 (1): Add finish at the beginning
  01:12:043 (1): ^
  02:16:984 (1): ^
  02:28:278 (1): ^
  03:07:808 : Spinner ends here
  03:27:572 (1): Remove finish
  03:30:396 (1): Add finish
  03:34:631 (7): Slider ends here
  03:41:690 (1): Add finish at the beginning

[Muya's Insane]

• 01:23:866 : Add a circle
  01:28:807 (9): Slider ends here
  02:12:749 (1): Hard to see the sliderball's direction
  02:45:219 (1): Use soft hitsound

Good map~

※STAR※

[Muya's Insane]

01:23:866 : Add a circle ok
01:28:807 (9): Slider ends here ok
02:12:749 (1): Hard to see the sliderball's direction

SPOILER

02:45:219 (1): Use soft hitsound ok

thx-

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [Muya's Insane].osu

Frankly speaking, I don't like double modding. It's complicated. OTL

As per your request:

[General]
Strange that all the diffs end at different points in the song. :/ It'd be nice to have them all end at the same spot (minus the taiko, of course) Especially weird since Normal is the longest difficulty.
You have two very similar combo colors right next to each other. I'd shuffle them around.

[KRZY's Easy]
Hitsounds are so quiet. :(
00:53:690 (3,4,5) - This doesn't feel like a three-hit part in the song to me.
01:03:572 (1,1,1,2) - This might be a bit confusing to new players. :/ Maybe just space them out normally instead of stacking it all. Applies to copy paste later on.
01:13:454 (1) - You should h-flip this. :D Applies to copy paste later on.

[Normal]
Aaaaah, sliderwhistles on sliderslide. :( They sound so awful, I'd get rid of 'em.
Hit sounds are really loud compared to the MP3 and the beginning. Tone it down some?
Overall this diff feels kind of dull. Might be the low spacing and general velocity compared to Easy. I'd up them at least a bit faster than the Easy diff, though that's your call.
02:36:749 (6) - I'd take the whistle off the end of this slider. Makes it feel really off.
02:55:984 (1) - Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-
Yeah, I'd suggest you up the general velocity and distance snap, though that's up to you. As is, the map feels kind of plain and dull, though technically fine.

[Taiko]
00:22:631 (47) - Sounds better if you end this slider at 00:23:690.
00:59:690 - Maybe add three Kat's here to go with lyrics?

[Insane]
00:19:102 - What the- soft hit sounds out of nowhere. Sounds weird. Even so, move your timing point before the note.
Argh, all those anti jumps. ;_;
01:27:572 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Haha, that's awesome.
Nice diff here.

Work on that Normal some, if you choose to accept my suggestion.

Garven wrote:

[Taiko]
00:22:631 (47) - Sounds better if you end this slider at 00:23:690.
00:59:690 - Maybe add three Kat's here to go with lyrics?

Authentic ;_;

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [Muya's Insane].osu

Fixed everything except


Sorry, that's my trademark on Easys ;_; I know many people did it before me but I tend to have at least one use of this pattern in every Easys I make. So, bear with me

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [KRZY's Easy].osu

Garven wrote:

[Normal]
Aaaaah, sliderwhistles on sliderslide. They sound so awful, I'd get rid of 'em.

Hit sounds are really loud compared to the MP3 and the beginning. Tone it down some?

Overall this diff feels kind of dull. Might be the low spacing and general velocity compared to Easy. I'd up them at least a bit faster than the Easy diff, though that's your call.

02:36:749 (6) - I'd take the whistle off the end of this slider. Makes it feel really off.
02:55:984 (1) - Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-

Yeah, I'd suggest you up the general velocity and distance snap, though that's up to you. As is, the map feels kind of plain and dull, though technically fine.

Slide whistle = All removed. Yup, that was really annoying.
Hitsound = Section added like below.
lv2(beginning ~ 00:07:102) -> lv4(00:07:102 ~ 00:12:749)
02:36:749 (6) = Done.

And last line....
Sorry. It maybe feels dull as you said, but if I change sv or ds, the whole map will need to be renewed. I don't want that situation.

Anyway, thanks to your mod. I'll give you kudosu.

[general]
hitsound, especially whistle, too loud, I think you'll need a SOFT whistle or change the whistle sound.

[31's taiko]
ok, but the all b patterns at the beginning seems strange.

[Insane]
0:45:572 (4,5,6,7) Can't read the notes clearly...orz
2:15:572 (6) why mute?
2:22:78 (4) up 2 grid
3:13:807 (2,3,4,5,6,7) spacing of (2,3) , (4,5), (6,7) differs....

nice map and star~

[Insane]
0:45:572 (4,5,6,7) Can't read the notes clearly...orz -_-
2:15:572 (6) why mute? -_-
2:22:78 (4) up 2 grid ok
3:13:807 (2,3,4,5,6,7) spacing of (2,3) , (4,5), (6,7) differs.... ok

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [Muya's Insane].osu

star~

ㅇㅅㅇ..
태고오니 모딩 자꾸 왜하는거야 ㅡㅡ

samiljul wrote:

ㅇㅅㅇ..
태고오니 모딩 자꾸 왜하는거야 ㅡㅡ

그래서 하지 말라고 내가 앞에 적어놨잖아
인간들이 참 말을 안들음 -_-;

Tags aren't the same on every difficulty.
Make sure to delete "melt" or "chorus" from the tags. It's already in title/artist.

[KRZY]
01:06:396 (1) - Add a finish?
01:17:690 (1) - Add finish at start?
01:23:337 (1) - ^
02:02:866 (7) - Add a finish? New combo.
02:03:572 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:33:926 (1) - Add finish at the start?
02:39:573 (1) - ^
02:50:866 (1) - ^
Finish mods are just suggestions.

[Normal]
Make the lead-in time 1.5 seconds or 2.
01:23:337 (1) - Maybe add finish?

Mafiamaster wrote:

Tags aren't the same on every difficulty.
Make sure to delete "melt" or "chorus" from the tags. It's already in title/artist. - Removed

[KRZY] - I'll tell KRZY to edit his.
01:06:396 (1) - Add a finish?
01:17:690 (1) - Add finish at start?
01:23:337 (1) - ^
02:02:866 (7) - Add a finish? New combo.
02:03:572 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:33:926 (1) - Add finish at the start?
02:39:573 (1) - ^
02:50:866 (1) - ^
Finish mods are just suggestions.

[Normal] - All Done
Make the lead-in time 1.5 seconds or 2.
01:23:337 (1) - Maybe add finish?

Thanks for your modding!! XD

Mafiamaster wrote:

Tags aren't the same on every difficulty.
Make sure to delete "melt" or "chorus" from the tags. It's already in title/artist.

[KRZY]
01:06:396 (1) - Add a finish?
01:17:690 (1) - Add finish at start?
01:23:337 (1) - ^
02:02:866 (7) - Add a finish? New combo.
02:03:572 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:33:926 (1) - Add finish at the start?
02:39:573 (1) - ^
02:50:866 (1) - ^
Finish mods are just suggestions.

[Normal]
Make the lead-in time 1.5 seconds or 2.
01:23:337 (1) - Maybe add finish?

Thanks! fixed all.

Download: Nico Nico Chorus - Melt (crowzen2) [KRZY's Easy].osu