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Kamikaze
self reminder to apply mods for yuno's diff

Rivals_7 wrote:

Hi~ from my mania queue :) I will mod your 4K here. No kudos if this isn't helpful to you
1|2|3|4

[Fanatic's 4K Hyper]
Some of the notes in the beggining, seems unsnapped. or is that because the BPM Change? (I can't find the correct snapping in any beat snap divisor ;w;) that's because of BPM changes, fixed some inconsistencies already tho

00:21:161 (21161|2) - seems uncomfortable, move to 1? and how is that beneficial lol, changed pattern a bit tho
00:23:711 (23711|2,23786|1,23861|0) - move to left one step for balance ok
00:26:111 (26111|0,26186|1,26261|2) - move to right one step ^ok
00:27:311 (27311|2) - to 4? ok
00:34:886 - a cymbal, consider to add note in col 1 ok
01:36:247 (96247|2,96309|1,96372|0) - move to right one step. for balance ok
01:45:372 (105372|0) - to 2? ok
01:54:059 (114059|1,114059|2,114184|1,114184|0) - ctrl+g? better playability I don't think it hinders playability enough to change it

Adtw_ wrote:

From

|1|2|3|4|


Fanatic's 4K Hyper
00:19:361 - add note ok
00:19:886 - ^ ok
00:20:486 - ^ ok
00:51:086 (51086|2,51161|3) - ctrl+g breaks pitch
00:54:536 - delete 1 note ok
00:56:336 - add note nah
01:30:247 - delete 1 note nah
01:30:497 - add note nah


[MOD END]

it's just my suggestion, feel free to reject :D
Goodluck :D
no changes from FrenzyLi's mod as well

Thanks again for those mods!
Tidek

_underjoy wrote:

Monochrome
Mod
00:34:902 (34902|1,34902|0) - 3-chord tutaj bo finish jest słabszy od następnego finishu który jest 3chordem
00:39:627 (39627|1) - przesuń do 1, ten [24] nie pasuje do całości patternu
00:41:577 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3674170 hmm te dwa [24] chordy są użyte tylko w tym miejscu, może zrób coś w stylu tego screena dla consistency? tu też 00:31:977 - więc consistency już jest
00:47:277 (47277|0) - do 2? ten anchor trochę dziwny a dźwięk się różni. Możesz nawet dać obie do 2
00:58:602 - brakuje notki pod pianino (a je mapujesz)
01:15:355 (75355|1,75492|2) - nie jestem tego pewien ale można tu dać 2-chorda
01:15:628 (75628|0,75765|2) - tutaj też
01:19:306 (79306|2) - tu też
01:42:434 (102434|1,102559|2,102684|3,102809|1) - zmapuj tutaj pianino bo te notki są trochę randomowe. Co do akcentów, w tej części dawałeś 2-chordy na beat (nie pianino), więc można zastąpić pojedynczymi to orginalnie było 1/3 pod pianino, kami spierdolił snaping, fixd
01:45:122 (105122|0) - to co w 00:47:277
01:52:247 (112247|2,112309|1,112372|3,112372|2,112372|0) - offsync! (ogólnie ten fragment czuć że notki nie są IDEALNIE tam gdzie powinny, niestety bardzo trudno to zsyncować :/ )
01:59:578 (119578|0) - ogromny anchor na 1, pls fix

Nie cierpię modować twoich diffów, bo 90% z tego co napisałem to czepianie się na siłę dobrej mapy xD
Not mentioned = fixd

Ziemniak przez Ciebie jest 0,05 mniej bo znerfiłem anchor na 1 :/

http://puu.sh/kiu3l/ff4ed6c372.txt
Topic Starter
Kamikaze
tidek more like shitdek am I rite
updated
Shoegazer
Kamikaze blackmailed me and told me that he'd stop doing that if I mod Monochrome.

SPOILER
[Tidek's 4K Monochrome]
OD9 please. 8 seems rather low for something as hectic as this.
00:08:559 - Same chord as the previous one, perhaps make this the same chord.
00:12:627 - Very minor complaint, but I'd prefer to see something like this instead of the pattern you currently use. If you follow this, you'd have to do the same for 00:16:377 - , 01:10:583 - and other similar rhythms.
00:26:127 - 00:43:077 - Any reason for the jumpstream to be unbroken? The music in 01:27:372 - (which is an unbroken run) is basically the same thing, only more intense and with minor differences. I think you can accent the chords just fine even if it's an unbroken stream, since you didn't place any consecutive doubles that are the same (e.g. [34][34]) for the parts where the chords are very different.
00:29:577 (29577|0,29577|3,29727|2,29727|1) - Both doubles should be the same, but considering what you'd have to do to make both chords to be the same, it's fine if you don't do that. Regardless, I'd like to see the second chord being [12] instead for fluency.
00:31:977 (31977|2,31977|0,32127|0,32127|2) - Unnecessarily rigid transition, I'd prefer [34] but if the rigidity is intentional then by all means go ahead. If you're planning to make the stream unbroken however, [14] would be ideal for a balance of rigidity and other things. [34] is just a personal preference.
00:39:177 (39177|0,39177|3,39327|2,39327|1) - refer to 00:29:577 (29577|0,29577|3,29727|2,29727|1) -, but mirrored.
00:41:502 - refer to 00:31:977 (31977|2,31977|0,32127|0,32127|2) -, but mirrored.
00:44:577 - I wouldn't seeing some 1/3 and 1/2 polyrhythms here, I'd prefer to see that instead of just 1/4s. A 1/3 and 1/4 polyrhythm would be too difficult.
00:48:627 - Try a pattern like this., would capture the melody falling well.
01:00:852 (60852|3,60852|2,61152|3,61152|2) - You should probably make these chords different, it creates an unnecessary accentuation that you didn't do for the exact sounds in this section.
01:02:652 (62652|2,62652|1,62652|0,62952|0,62952|1,62952|2,63252|0,63252|1,63252|3,63252|2) - Think you should remove one note from each chord, but keep the [123]s [12] and the [1234] as [124]. I understand that you're trying to emphasise the sound but I don't think the sound is loud enough to warrant triples and quads, especially since the triples before it have cymbal crashes and other things that are louder than the first two chords.
01:09:672 - would prefer a pattern like 23[124] for much easier transitioning, also gives a better emphasis on the triple since you're using your wrist to hit that part instead.
01:24:356 - Don't think quads are necessary here, they can just be triples. If you want to keep the quads though, you should make the first triple of each gallop [123], [124] and [234] respectively to capture the pitch going up. If you don't want to keep the quads, [123][124], [124][134], [134][234] is how I'd do it.
01:27:372 - 01:43:372 - The ending would be so hard that I think you can layer this more. It's mainly just adding doubles more than anything else, though. Adding every sound like 01:27:497 - and 01:28:372 - (doesn't have to be the same chord like [34][34] since you're already accentuating one part, but that would be a plus) would work.
01:39:497 - Should use the same trilly pattern you used for the rest of the stream for consistency.
01:34:872 - 01:35:372 - There are pretty prevalent 1/2 chords here, I feel that it'd be best to capture them. Maybe use a [34] chord and make something like this.
01:41:247 (101247|3,101247|0,101309|2,101372|0,101372|1,101434|2,101497|0,101497|3) - Rather rough pattern and it does stand out from the rest of the patterns used.
01:42:872 - Again, would prefer a 1/2 and 1/3 polyrhythm here. Seems better than a 1/4 jumptrill.
01:47:622 - Personal preference, but I'd prefer 23232[134] instead. Creates more emphasis than 13131[234], and I find it a more comfortable pattern overall.
01:59:925 - 02:02:582 - Going to try and find ways to make this easier, it's hard to make something relatively reasonable given its density though.
01:59:925 - 02:00:938 - I feel that the easiest way of making handstream like that more manageable is by reducing as many one hand trills and possible and emphasising more on the handjacks. It's manageable if the jacks are on a particular hand, like [12] or [34]. I think it'd transition nicely into the handjacks/jumpjacks as well. Something like this maybe.
02:01:047 - Very distinct lack of [12] or [34] doubles, which makes the handglut section as a whole pretty difficult to nail. It's not so much an issue for lower BPMs like 270-295, but I think it'd be nice for you to make the patterns progressively easier for the section before the 1/6s. By the time it hits 300 BPM I think some [12] or [34] doubles (the triples unchanged) should be necessary so that the player has more leverage on his wrist to hit the jacks properly. Not really sure how you'd do that though..
02:02:581 - Have the first triple be [234], then the second being [134], third being [124], fourth being [123] and repeat for the rest of that section. It'd make the last chord [123], which captures the lowest chord possible.

It plays generally well, most of these are nitpicks and just ways to improve playability while keeping musical relevancy intact. I'll mod burn this moment eventually when I'm not feeling like garbage
Blocko
IRC with -Kamikaze-
2015-09-28 15:48 -Kamikaze-: hi ET
2015-09-28 15:48 Blocko: no u
2015-09-28 15:48 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/681161 Hermit - Dysnomia [8K Melodie de tristesse]]
2015-09-28 15:48 Blocko: wanna have a go???
2015-09-28 15:48 -Kamikaze-: YES
2015-09-28 15:49 -Kamikaze-: tbh you can mod all diffs if you want apart from tidek's because he didn't reply to huge eze mod yet
2015-09-28 15:49 -Kamikaze-: (BN check maybe wink wink)
2015-09-28 15:49 Blocko: lmoa
2015-09-28 15:50 Blocko: 00:09:950 - sick polys m8
2015-09-28 15:50 Blocko: kinda looks a bit messy though
2015-09-28 15:50 -Kamikaze-: yeah but PR
2015-09-28 15:50 -Kamikaze-: and pepole said it's not hard to hit
2015-09-28 15:50 -Kamikaze-: tbh I don't find it very hard to hit as well
2015-09-28 15:53 Blocko: as long as it's pretty much alright to read since we're just starting
2015-09-28 15:54 Blocko: alright so S|1|2|3|4|5|6|7
2015-09-28 15:55 Blocko: 00:10:842 (10842|5,10960|3) - to 6,5 for pr?
2015-09-28 15:55 -Kamikaze-: another yummy polyrhythm at ~44 sec btw hehe
2015-09-28 15:55 -Kamikaze-: okay
2015-09-28 15:56 Blocko: 00:09:949 - maybe try to balance these out for lefties and 00:10:350 - righties
2015-09-28 15:56 Blocko: sorry it's been like 3 weeks since i modded something
2015-09-28 15:56 -Kamikaze-: npnp
2015-09-28 15:57 -Kamikaze-: but idk what do you mean by lefties and righties
2015-09-28 15:57 -Kamikaze-: lmoa
2015-09-28 15:57 Blocko: balance them out for the left and right hand?
2015-09-28 15:57 -Kamikaze-: b-but PR...
2015-09-28 15:57 -Kamikaze-: ;;
2015-09-28 15:57 Blocko: ;;
2015-09-28 15:57 Blocko: the struggle
2015-09-28 15:58 -Kamikaze-: I could like, move those 00:10:083 (10083|4,10216|2) - apart more
2015-09-28 15:58 -Kamikaze-: but idk how that relates to pitch
2015-09-28 15:59 Blocko: 00:10:083 (10083|4,10216|2) - to 6,1?
2015-09-28 15:59 -Kamikaze-: like this http://puu.sh/kryTn/a1abf41c46.png
2015-09-28 15:59 Blocko: might be a bit far off
2015-09-28 15:59 Blocko: oh that'd be cool
2015-09-28 15:59 -Kamikaze-: idk how to do the next one tho
2015-09-28 15:59 Blocko: 00:10:475 (10475|4) - to 3?
2015-09-28 15:59 -Kamikaze-: move 00:10:475 (10475|4) - to 3?
2015-09-28 15:59 -Kamikaze-: oh
2015-09-28 15:59 -Kamikaze-: hahahahaha
2015-09-28 15:59 Blocko: hivemind
2015-09-28 16:00 -Kamikaze-: ET minds think alike
2015-09-28 16:01 -Kamikaze-: I gotta do something now so brb 10 mins, keep sending me stuff when you find it
2015-09-28 16:01 Blocko: kk
2015-09-28 16:03 Blocko: these crashes in weird snaps a
2015-09-28 16:03 Blocko: they're correct but dunno why the artist would put those there hue
2015-09-28 16:06 Blocko: 00:33:402 (33402|7,33477|6,33552|7,33627|5,33777|6) - 6,7,3,6,7 to sprinkle in some pr?
2015-09-28 16:07 Blocko: 00:35:577 - to 00:42:777 - kinda losing consistency here, one measure or two you had the other piano and the next you had the one that stands out instead
2015-09-28 16:09 -Kamikaze-: ok back
2015-09-28 16:09 Blocko: oh wb
2015-09-28 16:09 Blocko: pya wanted me to look at end tiem
2015-09-28 16:10 Blocko: but i'll be back for uuu
2015-09-28 16:10 -Kamikaze-: applied pr stuff
2015-09-28 16:10 -Kamikaze-: aaaa
2015-09-28 16:10 -Kamikaze-: I gtg in 50 mins tho
2015-09-28 16:11 Blocko: a
2015-09-28 16:11 -Kamikaze-: added some notes to the piano thing
2015-09-28 16:11 -Kamikaze-: prob rip 6,66*
2015-09-28 16:12 Blocko: rip
2015-09-28 16:12 Blocko: ok insomnia time
2015-09-28 16:12 -Kamikaze-: o
2015-09-28 16:12 Blocko: told ya i'd be back
2015-09-28 16:13 Blocko: 00:50:952 (50952|1,51027|2,51102|1,51177|2,51252|1,51327|2,51402|1) - that little trill
2015-09-28 16:13 -Kamikaze-: tristan told me to do it because of pr
2015-09-28 16:13 -Kamikaze-: piano and shit
2015-09-28 16:13 -Kamikaze-: and tbh I found it surprisingly easy
2015-09-28 16:15 Blocko: yay survived the ending
2015-09-28 16:15 -Kamikaze-: ET
2015-09-28 16:15 Blocko: n
2015-09-28 16:15 -Kamikaze-: pls
2015-09-28 16:15 Blocko: 00:58:602 - missed a note here?
2015-09-28 16:16 Blocko: 00:59:152 - here too
2015-09-28 16:16 -Kamikaze-: first one yes, second one no
2015-09-28 16:17 -Kamikaze-: there is a pause
2015-09-28 16:17 Blocko: i'm deaf
2015-09-28 16:17 -Kamikaze-: o
2015-09-28 16:18 Blocko: 01:04:675 (64675|3) - to 5?
2015-09-28 16:18 Blocko: fun fact sometimes i ignore pr for playability and stuff
2015-09-28 16:18 -Kamikaze-: o
2015-09-28 16:19 -Kamikaze-: was about to about PR because I'm doing the broken staircase thing here
2015-09-28 16:19 -Kamikaze-: 01:04:592 (64592|2,64675|3,64758|4,64842|3,64925|4,65008|5,65092|4,65175|5) -
2015-09-28 16:19 -Kamikaze-: and so on
2015-09-28 16:19 -Kamikaze-: okay, moved
2015-09-28 16:20 Blocko: 01:19:034 - add on 6 for dat kickiano
2015-09-28 16:20 Blocko: 01:19:986 - on here too
2015-09-28 16:20 -Kamikaze-: oki
2015-09-28 16:21 Blocko: 01:21:486 - aaand here
2015-09-28 16:21 -Kamikaze-: wouldn't it be better on 7 in the second one
2015-09-28 16:21 Blocko: yeah it would
2015-09-28 16:21 -Kamikaze-: jej
2015-09-28 16:21 -Kamikaze-: done all
2015-09-28 16:21 Blocko: jej
2015-09-28 16:24 Blocko: 01:27:497 - add on 2 for that kick back there
2015-09-28 16:24 -Kamikaze-: btw this will prob need some hitsound mods because hitsounds everywhere apart from dosyeru's diff are '_>'
2015-09-28 16:24 Blocko: '_>'
2015-09-28 16:24 -Kamikaze-: done
2015-09-28 16:24 Blocko: 01:27:622 - aaand probably here as well if you want that part to be more consistent
2015-09-28 16:25 -Kamikaze-: added on 1
2015-09-28 16:25 Blocko: 01:35:497 - one here and 01:35:622 - two here
2015-09-28 16:26 Blocko: er
2015-09-28 16:26 -Kamikaze-: your suggestions sound like more pp
2015-09-28 16:26 -Kamikaze-: I like more pp
2015-09-28 16:26 Blocko: 01:40:372 - was this ctrl + h'd with 01:32:372 - ????????///??
2015-09-28 16:26 Blocko: eh im a pp person
2015-09-28 16:26 -Kamikaze-: m-maybe
2015-09-28 16:27 Blocko: aheu
2015-09-28 16:27 -Kamikaze-: actually it prob wasn't
2015-09-28 16:27 -Kamikaze-: I just used a similar idea
2015-09-28 16:27 Blocko: the resemblance is uncanny
2015-09-28 16:27 -Kamikaze-: I'm not a very creative person
2015-09-28 16:27 Blocko: i thought that was me
2015-09-28 16:27 Blocko: 01:48:184 (108184|7,108247|6,108309|5,108372|4,108434|3,108497|2,108559|1) - apply pr here?
2015-09-28 16:28 -Kamikaze-: what is pr
2015-09-28 16:28 -Kamikaze-: how do i pr
2015-09-28 16:28 Blocko: 1234567
2015-09-28 16:28 -Kamikaze-: so ctrl+h whole pattern
2015-09-28 16:28 Blocko: ues
2015-09-28 16:29 -Kamikaze-: l0l
2015-09-28 16:29 -Kamikaze-: made end chord less aids for scratch as well
2015-09-28 16:30 Blocko: 01:54:809 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3741915 - maybe something like this to follow both kick/piano?
2015-09-28 16:30 Blocko: and hihat
2015-09-28 16:31 -Kamikaze-: okidone
2015-09-28 16:32 Blocko: 01:53:184 (113184|1,113184|3,113309|4,113309|2,113434|5,113434|3,113559|4,113559|6,113684|7,113684|5,113809|4,113809|3,113809|6) - p-pr
2015-09-28 16:32 Blocko: prpr huheuehe
2015-09-28 16:33 -Kamikaze-: m'reverse
2015-09-28 16:34 -Kamikaze-: added chord 02:01:047 - because somehow it was missing
2015-09-28 16:34 -Kamikaze-: either here or 1/2 earlier idk
2015-09-28 16:35 Blocko: yeah 1/2
2015-09-28 16:35 Blocko: 02:00:492 (120492|2) - to 5?
2015-09-28 16:35 -Kamikaze-: okay
2015-09-28 16:38 Blocko: well not much else here but there's stuff that i noticed
2015-09-28 16:38 Blocko: like, some kick/piano parts only had 1 note or something
2015-09-28 16:39 -Kamikaze-: please do point out exact spots and I'll fix them
2015-09-28 16:39 Blocko: also some hi-hats are not there if i ever want to be more nazi
2015-09-28 16:41 Blocko: 00:46:677 (46677|1,46752|2,46827|3) - r u following the kicks
2015-09-28 16:41 Blocko: i hear a 1/6 piano there
2015-09-28 16:42 Blocko: 00:46:977 - add a note here?
2015-09-28 16:42 Blocko: 00:47:277 - here too
2015-09-28 16:42 -Kamikaze-: following hats there
2015-09-28 16:42 Blocko: 00:47:877 - add one for kick-piano
2015-09-28 16:42 -Kamikaze-: notes added
2015-09-28 16:43 Blocko: 00:48:177 (48177|7,48252|6,48327|5) - are these hats too?
2015-09-28 16:43 -Kamikaze-: iirc yeah
2015-09-28 16:43 -Kamikaze-: 00:53:802 - should I add something here
2015-09-28 16:44 -Kamikaze-: I noticed that BMS chart accents this piano but I never heard it before
2015-09-28 16:44 Blocko: if you do, then add 00:54:102 - one here too
2015-09-28 16:45 -Kamikaze-: do I make them both on 7 or one on 7 and one on 5/3
2015-09-28 16:46 Blocko: probably 3/5 to even things out a bit
2015-09-28 16:46 -Kamikaze-: oki done on 5
2015-09-28 16:46 Blocko: 00:48:627 - add on 5 00:48:777 - add on 4 00:48:927 - add on 1
2015-09-28 16:46 Blocko: kickhats
2015-09-28 16:47 -Kamikaze-: sr raised by 0,05 already
2015-09-28 16:47 Blocko: le pp
2015-09-28 16:48 Blocko: add on 00:49:677 - 00:49:827 - 00:49:902 -
2015-09-28 16:49 Blocko: 00:50:352 - 00:50:427 - 00:50:577 -
2015-09-28 16:50 Blocko: 00:47:577 - add a note on 7 for stronger impact?
2015-09-28 16:50 -Kamikaze-: okay I've done a 4-chord in a lot of places here anyway
2015-09-28 16:50 -Kamikaze-: added rest
2015-09-28 16:50 -Kamikaze-: muh pp
2015-09-28 16:50 Blocko: yeah might as well xddddd
2015-09-28 16:52 Blocko: well i got nothing else since i'm still kinda rusty on modding
2015-09-28 16:53 Blocko: don't you have to go in 8 mins?
2015-09-28 16:53 -Kamikaze-: yeah I do
2015-09-28 16:53 -Kamikaze-: sik
2015-09-28 16:53 -Kamikaze-: thnak
2015-09-28 16:53 -Kamikaze-: <3
2015-09-28 16:53 -Kamikaze-: gonna update now and idk
2015-09-28 16:53 Blocko: noprab <3
2015-09-28 16:53 Blocko: want me to post logs
2015-09-28 16:53 -Kamikaze-: so uhh, end spam is okay?
2015-09-28 16:54 Blocko: to me it is since it really accents the piano chords
2015-09-28 16:54 Blocko: did you ask other people about it?
2015-09-28 16:54 -Kamikaze-: (tbh it's 7th mod for that diff and only niv said gl with getting those ranked)
2015-09-28 16:54 Blocko: lmoa
2015-09-28 16:54 -Kamikaze-: I always forget to ask jin
2015-09-28 16:55 -Kamikaze-: triastan ommited this idk why
2015-09-28 16:55 Blocko: ask jin
2015-09-28 16:55 Blocko: he plays piano
2015-09-28 16:55 Blocko: and is et
2015-09-28 16:55 -Kamikaze-: ask jin for me
2015-09-28 16:55 -Kamikaze-: '_>'
2015-09-28 16:56 Blocko: '_>'

Kinda nitpicky since we fixed some density consistency and a few patterns but ah well.
Will definitely be back for this, though.
Topic Starter
Kamikaze
Updated, awaiting Tidek's reply still
Tidek

Shoegazer wrote:

Kamikaze blackmailed me and told me that he'd stop doing that if I mod Monochrome.

SPOILER
[Tidek's 4K Monochrome]
OD9 please. 8 seems rather low for something as hectic as this. Agree, honestly idk why it was OD8 lol
00:08:559 - Same chord as the previous one, perhaps make this the same chord. fixd
00:12:627 - Very minor complaint, but I'd prefer to see something like this instead of the pattern you currently use. If you follow this, you'd have to do the same for 00:16:377 - , 01:10:583 - and other similar rhythms. fixd
00:26:127 - 00:43:077 - Any reason for the jumpstream to be unbroken? The music in 01:27:372 - (which is an unbroken run) is basically the same thing, only more intense and with minor differences. I think you can accent the chords just fine even if it's an unbroken stream, since you didn't place any consecutive doubles that are the same (e.g. [34][34]) for the parts where the chords are very different. actually u are right, I wanted to make it easy on beginning, but when i look at this now, that js should be unbroken, because next is already faster lol
00:29:577 (29577|0,29577|3,29727|2,29727|1) - Both doubles should be the same, but considering what you'd have to do to make both chords to be the same, it's fine if you don't do that. Regardless, I'd like to see the second chord being [12] instead for fluency.
00:31:977 (31977|2,31977|0,32127|0,32127|2) - Unnecessarily rigid transition, I'd prefer [34] but if the rigidity is intentional then by all means go ahead. If you're planning to make the stream unbroken however, [14] would be ideal for a balance of rigidity and other things. [34] is just a personal preference.
00:39:177 (39177|0,39177|3,39327|2,39327|1) - refer to 00:29:577 (29577|0,29577|3,29727|2,29727|1) -, but mirrored.
00:41:502 - refer to 00:31:977 (31977|2,31977|0,32127|0,32127|2) -, but mirrored.
00:44:577 - I wouldn't seeing some 1/3 and 1/2 polyrhythms here, I'd prefer to see that instead of just 1/4s. A 1/3 and 1/4 polyrhythm would be too difficult. fixd it in own way (to keep consistancy with other pattern)
00:48:627 - Try a pattern like this., would capture the melody falling well. looks nice, fixd
01:00:852 (60852|3,60852|2,61152|3,61152|2) - You should probably make these chords different, it creates an unnecessary accentuation that you didn't do for the exact sounds in this section. true, fixed
01:02:652 (62652|2,62652|1,62652|0,62952|0,62952|1,62952|2,63252|0,63252|1,63252|3,63252|2) - Think you should remove one note from each chord, but keep the [123]s [12] and the [1234] as [124]. I understand that you're trying to emphasise the sound but I don't think the sound is loud enough to warrant triples and quads, especially since the triples before it have cymbal crashes and other things that are louder than the first two chords. ok, fixed it, agree that its not that intense to put 3-4chords.
01:09:672 - would prefer a pattern like 23[124] for much easier transitioning, also gives a better emphasis on the triple since you're using your wrist to hit that part instead. fixed
01:24:356 - Don't think quads are necessary here, they can just be triples. If you want to keep the quads though, you should make the first triple of each gallop [123], [124] and [234] respectively to capture the pitch going up. If you don't want to keep the quads, [123][124], [124][134], [134][234] is how I'd do it. removed quads.
01:27:372 - 01:43:372 - The ending would be so hard that I think you can layer this more. It's mainly just adding doubles more than anything else, though. Adding every sound like 01:27:497 - and 01:28:372 - (doesn't have to be the same chord like [34][34] since you're already accentuating one part, but that would be a plus) would work. Here I have to disagree (finally lol). In my opinion it will break consistancy of that map, most of my doubles in whole map are for piano sounds, not gonna break it for one jump stream
01:39:497 - Should use the same trilly pattern you used for the rest of the stream for consistency. fixd
01:34:872 - 01:35:372 - There are pretty prevalent 1/2 chords here, I feel that it'd be best to capture them. Maybe use a [34] chord and make something like this. fixd
01:41:247 (101247|3,101247|0,101309|2,101372|0,101372|1,101434|2,101497|0,101497|3) - Rather rough pattern and it does stand out from the rest of the patterns used. I used similar pattern before and I think it doesnt play really bad, Its pretty basic JS pattern
01:42:872 - Again, would prefer a 1/2 and 1/3 polyrhythm here. Seems better than a 1/4 jumptrill. Will stay with that jump trill, for me those sounds are a lot more significant than 1/2 and 1/3 polyrhythms (fixd for 1/4 jump trill previous pattern to keep consistancy)
01:47:622 - Personal preference, but I'd prefer 23232[134] instead. Creates more emphasis than 13131[234], and I find it a more comfortable pattern overall. fixd
01:59:925 - 02:02:582 - Going to try and find ways to make this easier, it's hard to make something relatively reasonable given its density though.
01:59:925 - 02:00:938 - I feel that the easiest way of making handstream like that more manageable is by reducing as many one hand trills and possible and emphasising more on the handjacks. It's manageable if the jacks are on a particular hand, like [12] or [34]. I think it'd transition nicely into the handjacks/jumpjacks as well. Something like this maybe. Fixed, I had better pattern before, i really have no idea why i changed it to something that hard lol
02:01:047 - Very distinct lack of [12] or [34] doubles, which makes the handglut section as a whole pretty difficult to nail. It's not so much an issue for lower BPMs like 270-295, but I think it'd be nice for you to make the patterns progressively easier for the section before the 1/6s. By the time it hits 300 BPM I think some [12] or [34] doubles (the triples unchanged) should be necessary so that the player has more leverage on his wrist to hit the jacks properly. Not really sure how you'd do that though.. fixd, it has more 12 and 34, hope its better now
02:02:581 - Have the first triple be [234], then the second being [134], third being [124], fourth being [123] and repeat for the rest of that section. It'd make the last chord [123], which captures the lowest chord possible. fixed

It plays generally well, most of these are nitpicks and just ways to improve playability while keeping musical relevancy intact. I'll mod burn this moment eventually when I'm not feeling like garbage
Great mod! Thank you a lot!

http://puu.sh/krMmM/6e11642758.txt
Julie
"Mélodie de tristesse"

Kudo plox~! *runs*
Topic Starter
Kamikaze

Julie wrote:

"Mélodie de tristesse"

Kudo plox~! *runs*
OKAY MISS GRAMMAR NAZI ;_;
Updated Tidek's diff, boosted endings in both 8K Hyper and 8K Normal+, fixed unsnapped chord in Hyper, fixed missing videos in both Tidek's and dosyeru's diffs and fixed preview point in dosyeru's diff.
Ready for BN checks!
Jinjin
okay kami, here's my take on the patterns for the ending with playability and pitch in mind

Modderino
Starting from:
02:00:494 -


02:00:938 -


tried to keep jacks to a minimum with alternating finger patterns so that it's easier to hit (since this is a ridiculously fast section)
also, I emphasized every 1/1 beat with one more note because it fits musically since higher notes are usually emphasized especially in an instrumental / orchestral song like this one

02:01:370 -


same pattern continues

02:01:788 -


le same

02:02:191 -


I raised some of the chords here because the music gets more intense here compared to the last part (also rearranged the patterns a bit)

Gooood luck~
Topic Starter
Kamikaze
Applied all and adjusted 6-chord so ther go in a smooth stair fashion with your suggestions
Thanks ETJin!

Note: I am aware of a currently unrankable gap between Melodie and D's Another (2,21*), but I've talked with Dosyeru and he's going to boost his piano smash part so SR will raise (by a lot most likely)
Arzenvald
i haven't exactly check the 8K diffs, but from what i see from the object amounts on 8K another & 8K melody blah blah, the gap between those 2 diffs should be fine..

> Normal // 521 obj.
> Normal+ // 744 obj (+223)
> Hyper // 1466 obj. (+722)
> Another // 1898 obj. (+432)
> Melodie de tristesse // 2230 obj. (+332)

for now, i only aware the gap between normal and hyper, 700+ objects added just by 1 diff..
also.. 300+ objects and the star rating went like crazy :V

no kud
Topic Starter
Kamikaze
the end part really boosts up the rating lol
tbh I don't know how to layer normal+ harder to make it a more ballanced diff spread wise, maybe you could help me with that? :3
Arzenvald
i will asap as i online to osu... busy job is busy orz
dosyeru
updates
boost was not alot actually
Topic Starter
Kamikaze
Updated
Kyousuke-
[Whagwha Victus' 4K Another]

00:08:037 - 00:08:559 - i would like to suggest this http://puu.sh/kvQpS/f662570107.jpg it's more balance imo. also it's following the pitch like the first 00:08:558 (8558|2,9521|2) -

00:22:977 (22977|1) - move to 3 for raising pitch
00:25:527 - isn't this 2 notes? like 00:24:327 - , i'm suggesting to move 00:25:677 (25677|1) - this to 00:25:527 - here at the same col (on 2). so it'll make a consistent pattern 00:24:177 (24177|0,24327|0,25377|1,25527|1) - if you don't agree with this, just move that and don't make it jack
00:28:977 (28977|0) - move to 3 according to your pattern 00:26:577 (26577|2,26802|2,27777|0,28002|0,30177|1,30402|1) -

00:33:677 - 00:33:777 - add for 1/6 piano sound like 00:33:927 (33927|2,33977|1,34027|0) - this?
00:39:627 - add note at 1, you make it trinotes every chord. and 00:39:927 - add at 2.
00:40:227 (40227|2) - move to 2, like 00:30:477 (30477|2,30627|2,37677|2,37827|2) - this

00:42:927 (42927|1) - how about move this to 2? bcs it's high pitch and different with the notes before
00:46:377 - add note at 1 for the chords
00:56:352 - add note. there's a drum sound like 00:55:152 - 00:57:552 - 00:58:152 - etc
01:04:070 (64070|0,64070|1,64206|1,64206|0,64592|0,64592|1,65092|1,65092|3,65217|1,65217|3) - remove one note for that faint sound

01:05:803 - 01:06:694 - isn't this the same sound?
01:13:037 (73037|2) - move to 1 would more balance imo
01:13:992 - remove one note like the others
01:10:583 - add notes like 01:16:583 -

01:30:309 - add note for snare? at 3 and move 01:30:372 (90372|2) - this to 2
^ if applied, 01:30:497 (90497|3) - move this to 3
01:33:247 (93247|0) - move to 2 would be better

01:47:934 - add note for crash
sorry for the delay m4m xd also i only mod one diff ;w;
dat bpm changes and weird bgm lol

goodluck!
Topic Starter
Kamikaze

Kyousuke- wrote:

[Whagwha Victus' 4K Another]

00:08:037 - 00:08:559 - i would like to suggest this http://puu.sh/kvQpS/f662570107.jpg it's more balance imo. also it's following the pitch like the first 00:08:558 (8558|2,9521|2) - done

00:22:977 (22977|1) - move to 3 for raising pitch done
00:25:527 - isn't this 2 notes? like 00:24:327 - , i'm suggesting to move 00:25:677 (25677|1) - this to 00:25:527 - here at the same col (on 2). so it'll make a consistent pattern 00:24:177 (24177|0,24327|0,25377|1,25527|1) - if you don't agree with this, just move that and don't make it jack I added a note for bass, didn't delete anything else
00:28:977 (28977|0) - move to 3 according to your pattern 00:26:577 (26577|2,26802|2,27777|0,28002|0,30177|1,30402|1) - done

00:33:677 - 00:33:777 - add for 1/6 piano sound like 00:33:927 (33927|2,33977|1,34027|0) - this? ok
00:39:627 - add note at 1, you make it trinotes every chord. and 00:39:927 - add at 2. done
00:40:227 (40227|2) - move to 2, like 00:30:477 (30477|2,30627|2,37677|2,37827|2) - this too much anchors here

00:42:927 (42927|1) - how about move this to 2? bcs it's high pitch and different with the notes before okay
00:46:377 - add note at 1 for the chords done
00:56:352 - add note. there's a drum sound like 00:55:152 - 00:57:552 - 00:58:152 - etc okay
01:04:070 (64070|0,64070|1,64206|1,64206|0,64592|0,64592|1,65092|1,65092|3,65217|1,65217|3) - remove one note for that faint sound only removed on 01:04:592 - because rest is pretty prominent imo

01:05:803 - 01:06:694 - isn't this the same sound? nope, first one has a little snare and diffrent pitch
01:13:037 (73037|2) - move to 1 would more balance imo did a 13 chord instead
01:13:992 - remove one note like the others made in the same way as tidek's diff (almost)
01:10:583 - add notes like 01:16:583 - ^

01:30:309 - add note for snare? at 3 and move 01:30:372 (90372|2) - this to 2 oki
^ if applied, 01:30:497 (90497|3) - move this to 3 done
01:33:247 (93247|0) - move to 2 would be better sure

01:47:934 - add note for crash okay
sorry for the delay m4m xd also i only mod one diff ;w;
dat bpm changes and weird bgm lol

goodluck!
Thanks a lot! Updated.
Takane6
hi o/
SPOILER
[General]
a... somehow some of the bpm's offest are miss placed (although its less than 5ms)... idk i just... feel it... try to ask the others about the timing tho~

[8K Melodie de tristesse]
00:20:952 - add note (same as 00:20:877 - )
00:35:727 (35727|7,35727|5,35727|1,35802|4,35877|3,36027|6,36027|5,36027|2,36177|3,36327|4,36327|6,36327|1) - its different pattern 00:36:927 (36927|5,36927|7,36927|2,37002|3,37077|4,37077|1,37152|5,37227|6,37227|7,37227|2,37302|3,37377|4,37452|5,37527|4,37527|1,37527|6) - ?
00:39:327 (39327|6,39327|4,39327|2,39402|5,39477|6,39627|1,39627|3,39627|7,39777|5,39927|7,39927|2,39927|4) - ^
00:41:727 (41727|1,41727|3,41727|6,41802|4,41877|2,41877|5,42027|4,42027|7,42027|6,42177|3,42327|5,42327|4,42327|2) - ^

00:41:877 - 2 note? > 00:39:477 - 1 note
00:43:077 (43077|7,43077|6,43077|1) - the consistency kinda ruined here because it has a piano rather than LN only...
00:48:027 - drum + piano = 2 note ... 00:49:527 - drum + piano = 3 note?
01:04:508 - 3 note?
01:09:412 (69412|2) - delete
same sound 01:12:355 - and 01:12:492 - but different amount of note?
01:12:628 - ^
01:11:674 - 4 note >> 01:15:083 - 5 note?
01:28:684 (88684|4) - delete
01:30:184 (90184|6) - ^
01:34:497 - 2 note > 01:34:747 - 1 note?
01:57:541 - add note
01:58:990 - ^

[D's 8K Another]
00:48:233 (48233|2,48233|6,48289|5,48289|1) - not sure about this... since i hear only a sound at 00:48:252 -
01:01:752 - add note here ? because >> 00:59:952 -
01:17:537 - 1 note, has a kick 01:17:128 - 1 note, no kick
01:21:486 - add note
01:33:934 (93934|4) - why?
01:46:872 - add note


[Rayz' 8K Hyper]
since u doing this >>00:24:777 (24777|1,24927|1) - make mini jack in one of these 00:25:977 (25977|1,25977|5,26127|7,26127|3) -
00:27:177 (27177|1,27177|5,27327|3,27327|7) - ^
00:28:377 (28377|5,28377|1,28527|7,28527|3) - ^
00:29:577 (29577|1,29577|5,29727|7,29727|3) - ^
00:46:377 - too much for 3 note
00:55:302 - delete 1 note
01:25:445 (85445|4,85565|7,85682|3,85800|6,85918|2,86037|5,86156|1,86276|7,86396|3,86516|6,86637|2,86758|5) - better make each of these 2 note (make 01:25:205 (85205|3,85205|1,85205|6) - as reference)
Good luck !
never seen this much kind of bpm :v
Topic Starter
Kamikaze

Takane6 wrote:

hi o/
SPOILER
[General]
a... somehow some of the bpm's offest are miss placed (although its less than 5ms)... idk i just... feel it... try to ask the others about the timing tho~

[8K Melodie de tristesse]
00:20:952 - add note (same as 00:20:877 - ) :877 has a kick, :952 doesn't
00:35:727 (35727|7,35727|5,35727|1,35802|4,35877|3,36027|6,36027|5,36027|2,36177|3,36327|4,36327|6,36327|1) - its different pattern 00:36:927 (36927|5,36927|7,36927|2,37002|3,37077|4,37077|1,37152|5,37227|6,37227|7,37227|2,37302|3,37377|4,37452|5,37527|4,37527|1,37527|6) - ?
00:39:327 (39327|6,39327|4,39327|2,39402|5,39477|6,39627|1,39627|3,39627|7,39777|5,39927|7,39927|2,39927|4) - ^
00:41:727 (41727|1,41727|3,41727|6,41802|4,41877|2,41877|5,42027|4,42027|7,42027|6,42177|3,42327|5,42327|4,42327|2) - ^ Yeah ignoring that piano roll was kinda meh, so I added notes to make it a constant 1/4 stream

00:41:877 - 2 note? > 00:39:477 - 1 note Added a note on the 1 note one
00:43:077 (43077|7,43077|6,43077|1) - the consistency kinda ruined here because it has a piano rather than LN only... added some 1/2s
00:48:027 - drum + piano = 2 note ... 00:49:527 - drum + piano = 3 note? I find the 3 note chord 's piano sound much stronger than the 2 note one, if that's an issue I will change it I guess
01:04:508 - 3 note? deleted one
01:09:412 (69412|2) - delete Drum note, it speeds up here
same sound 01:12:355 - and 01:12:492 - but different amount of note? deleted that one note
01:12:628 - ^ ^
01:11:674 - 4 note >> 01:15:083 - 5 note? Added a note
01:28:684 (88684|4) - delete piano note
01:30:184 (90184|6) - ^ okay
01:34:497 - 2 note > 01:34:747 - 1 note? the beat is playing alongside the piano on first one, but deleting a note made pattern smoother so yea used that
01:57:541 - add note oki
01:58:990 - ^ oki



[Rayz' 8K Hyper]
since u doing this >>00:24:777 (24777|1,24927|1) - make mini jack in one of these 00:25:977 (25977|1,25977|5,26127|7,26127|3) -
00:27:177 (27177|1,27177|5,27327|3,27327|7) - ^
00:28:377 (28377|5,28377|1,28527|7,28527|3) - ^
00:29:577 (29577|1,29577|5,29727|7,29727|3) - ^ Deleted second notes on those two minijacks because they made no sense imo
00:46:377 - too much for 3 note I think that piano is strong enough to allow a triple here
00:55:302 - delete 1 note okay
01:25:445 (85445|4,85565|7,85682|3,85800|6,85918|2,86037|5,86156|1,86276|7,86396|3,86516|6,86637|2,86758|5) - better make each of these 2 note (make 01:25:205 (85205|3,85205|1,85205|6) - as reference) I'd rather keep this because of the BPM shifts this pattern is actually really hard to read, so I don't want to make it too complicated (kinda worried about spread as well)
Good luck !
never seen this much kind of bpm :v
Thanks man! Updated.
dosyeru
Topic Starter
Kamikaze
Updated
Elementaires
12345678

le noob mod

8K Normal+
00:22:677 (22677|6,22677|2) - move the two notes to 2 and 6
00:22:977 (22977|1,22977|5) - ^ but on 3 and 7
00:23:577 - add on 7?
00:35:127 (35127|5) - imake this LN start at 00:35:052

Rayz' 8K Hyper
01:42:455 - note missing on 5?
also why is this part on 1/16 when its 1/6 notes

D's 8K Another
00:48:233 (48233|6) - what is this? put it on 00:48:214

8K Melodie de tristesse
00:39:927 and 00:40:227 are same sound but why only one is triple notes
00:41:727 - delete one note
00:44:077 (44077|2,44127|5,44177|1,44277|6,44277|4,44377|3,44427|7,44477|2,44577|5,44577|1,44652|2,44677|4,44727|6,44777|3,44802|7,44877|1,44877|6,44952|2,44977|5,45027|3,45077|4,45102|5) - I dont get it, it would be so much better if its wasnt "broken" and if everything was in 1/3 rhythm

01:42:372 - ^ but maybe i really dont get it l0l


btw change the word to Mélodie pls :x
Rayz141

Elementaires wrote:

12345678

le noob mod

Rayz' 8K Hyper
01:42:455 - note missing on 5?
also why is this part on 1/16 when its 1/6 notes
kami forgot to snap maybe

maybe not idk i'm away for 3 months ffs

https://u.pomf.io/egdhyp.rar
Topic Starter
Kamikaze

Elementaires wrote:

12345678

le et mod

8K Normal+
00:22:677 (22677|6,22677|2) - move the two notes to 2 and 6 Okay
00:22:977 (22977|1,22977|5) - ^ but on 3 and 7 Done diffrently
00:23:577 - add on 7? There's exactly same amount of sounds I'm layering on all those chords, it's just that one of them is long here so I turned a note into LN. Not gonna change that.
00:35:127 (35127|5) - imake this LN start at 00:35:052 I've considered that but 1) that would be rather hard to play 2) the piano at 00:35:052 is less impactful than one at 00:35:127 so I used that as an excuse to start the second LN there (might just remove it later on anyway)


8K Melodie de tristesse
00:39:927 and 00:40:227 are same sound but why only one is triple notes Added one to the second one
00:41:727 - delete one note Same sound as triples before tbh, not changing
00:44:077 (44077|2,44127|5,44177|1,44277|6,44277|4,44377|3,44427|7,44477|2,44577|5,44577|1,44652|2,44677|4,44727|6,44777|3,44802|7,44877|1,44877|6,44952|2,44977|5,45027|3,45077|4,45102|5) - I dont get it, it would be so much better if its wasnt "broken" and if everything was in 1/3 rhythm I do want to accent both piano 1/3 and beat 1/2 speeding up to 1/4 so I'm not going to change that. Polyrhythms are kool mang B)

01:42:372 - ^ but maybe i really dont get it l0l same tbh


btw change the word to Mélodie pls :x HOLY SHIT I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SUBMIT WITH UNICODE OR THIS E THING FOR 7-8 MONTHS PRAISE THE BAGUETTE!!!!!!

Rayz141 wrote:

kami forgot to snap maybe how could I ever forget that (^_^; )
Thanks a lot Elem! <3
EDIT: fixed that snap in dosyeru's diff as well it's nothing big anyway
Demane

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Topic Starter
Kamikaze
;A;
Kreator014
[Tidek's 4K Monochrome]

02:01:047 (121047|0,121156|0,121263|0) - 02:01:684 (121684|3,121788|3,121889|3) - 02:02:289 (122289|0,122387|0,122484|0) - :(


no kds pls fix the fokn jax loser
_underjoy
ayy lmao
Elementaires
éééé :(
Topic Starter
Kamikaze
updating with literally nothing so it doesn't go to graveyard
Tidek
Fixed a little ending patterns in my difficulty because #blamesnover2015 (yeah, im fast, ik)

http://puu.sh/m4cno/23fa23b9a6.txt
Topic Starter
Kamikaze
posting .txt with unicode directly through puush smh
updated
puxtu
smh tbh fam
2016-02-15 03:08 -Kamikaze-: mod my map tbh
2016-02-15 03:08 puxtu: no thanks tbh
2016-02-15 03:09 -Kamikaze-: whew rood
2016-02-15 03:09 puxtu: what map
2016-02-15 03:09 -Kamikaze-: idk osanana or dysnomia
2016-02-15 03:10 -Kamikaze-: do you even mod outside of 4k
2016-02-15 03:10 puxtu: yes tbh
2016-02-15 03:10 puxtu: i do mod everything
2016-02-15 03:10 -Kamikaze-: w E w
2016-02-15 03:10 -Kamikaze-: first time hearing that
2016-02-15 03:11 -Kamikaze-: ok honestly I could use a mod on dysnomia
2016-02-15 03:11 -Kamikaze-: it died but I can revive it
2016-02-15 03:11 puxtu: ok
2016-02-15 03:11 -Kamikaze-: me getting ranked maps now is meme tier task anyway, but eh
2016-02-15 03:19 puxtu: 1.3* is quite big gap
2016-02-15 03:19 -Kamikaze-: we do not use star rating as an indicator of appropriate spread
2016-02-15 03:19 -Kamikaze-: ever
2016-02-15 03:19 -Kamikaze-: it's shit
2016-02-15 03:19 -Kamikaze-: and you know it
2016-02-15 03:19 puxtu: b-but...
2016-02-15 03:20 -Kamikaze-: no.
2016-02-15 03:20 -Kamikaze-: when we're done with setting baselines for difficulties in criteria counil star rating will be completely ignored in mapping and spread evaluation
2016-02-15 03:23 puxtu: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/681161 Hermit - Dysnomia [8K Melodie de tristesse]]
2016-02-15 03:23 puxtu: you forgot to add 1/4 here 02:02:484 (122484|0,122581|0) -
2016-02-15 03:24 -Kamikaze-: I'm applying mods for osanana so uhh
2016-02-15 03:24 -Kamikaze-: post in thread pls
2016-02-15 03:24 puxtu: jk i dont mod 8k
2016-02-15 03:24 puxtu: :v
2016-02-15 03:24 -Kamikaze-: smh tbh fam
2016-02-15 03:24 -Kamikaze-: >i do mod everything
[D's 8K Another]
01:06:266 - assuming you are layering the piano and hi-hat sound at this part, so add a note right here 01:06:373 -?
01:58:153 (118153|2,118393|3) - missing 1/2 notes arround here, I think it's the same sounds like this part 01:56:684 (116684|1,116806|1,116928|2) -
01:59:579 (119579|2,119809|3) - same, even in hyper has a 1/2 note in there
[Rayz' 8K Hyper]
01:03:388 (63388|5) - I don't think this note is necessary
[8K Normal+]
00:19:077 (19077|0) - triple chords just like the others maybe
00:34:977 - smh http://puu.sh/ngYFi/579df640ab.png
00:47:877 (47877|3) - replace with 1/2 notes? the drum sound is more dominant rather than the piano stream, a lot different with this ln 00:48:627 (48627|5) -
01:44:122 (104122|5) - replace with ln for the drum rolls
01:47:622 - arround here too
[Kaito's 8K Normal]
00:13:827 (13827|0) - you added double for your 4k here and I also think this should be a double chords 00:11:726 (11726|0) -
00:15:477 (15477|0) - 00:17:577 (17577|0) - 00:19:077 (19077|0) - 00:22:677 (22677|0,22977|0,23277|0,23577|0) - same, you have plenty of column more than in 4k :/
00:28:527 - 00:38:127 - kinda empty hmmm, pretty sure there's 3 sounds not 2
00:47:577 (47577|0,48327|0) - again witht the cymbal thingy, you might wanna use your 4k as reference. won't mention this issue again
Blocko
hello
Note: This is a 4K mod looking at things in a general view before going more in-depth with it.

General

Difficulty Spread
One thing that worries me particularly is the difficulty curve in the 4K set. The jump between 4K Normal+ and Fanatic's 4K Hyper is pretty immense. Add the fact that Hyper actually has a 240BPM stream along with jumps in the end, the diff curve across the set here is jarring enough that it can particularly throw off some players not expecting these patterns to come into play.
Normal+ just seems to be a slightly buffed version of Kaito's 4K Normal, but it doesn't provide enough difficulty for it to be called a good progression imo.
Also, having + in a diff name is not really allowed anymore as those kinds of diff names have been abolished for ages.

I would pretty much suggest to rename that Hyper to Insane and Normal+ to Hyper, then buff up the difficulty for Normal+ to allow good progression across the 4K set.

Haven't come up with a conclusion yet for the 8K set, though, so wait for me on that.

Timing and Offset
00:23:577 - On all diffs, it might be better to move this timing point to 00:15:477 - so it resets the metronome earlier.

01:09:765 - What's with the 2/4 time signature? It should stay the same just like 00:11:727 - .
Maybe you can add red timing points at 01:13:174 - and 01:16:310 - to reset the metronome there.

01:27:372 - Again, 1/4 time signatures? Same suggestion as above. (the one below that does not apply)

Also, I don't think it's possible to change the time signature to below 3 without manually editing the .osu file itself. There's nothing in the RC that says that you can edit time signatures in there, so I think it'd be better to set all timing points to 4/4 instead since this song is primarily 4/4.

Be sure to apply the mod first before applying any timing/offset changes!
4K
4K Column:
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
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[Kaito's 4K Normal]
Mod inside
00:11:726 - Some of the crashes you layered in the whole song are either single notes or 2-note chords. Some of the 2-note chords even have a LN before it instead of one note.
Only thing I can suggest here is to stick to a structure then be consistent with it. For crashes that come after an LN, stick to using 1 note so it provides just enough impact for them. For ones without LNs, stick with 2-note chords.

00:19:602 (19602|3,20727|3,21552|1) - Might be better to extend these LNs to the next note for increased crash impact.

00:25:977 to 00:43:077 - Structural consistency here is pretty lacking. On some measures, you have hammers, then on the other, they're a little denser than usual.
Again, stick to a structure, then be consistent with it. If you find that a little boring, then add a little twist on it, but be sure to stick to that structure for a while so it highlights which particular sounds you're charting on.
Example: On 00:35:577 to 00:37:977 - you can use this structure and stick with it for a good amount of time so players can know what instrument you're accenting. Be sure to have some pitch relevance in those notes, though, as the piano plays a big part in this song.
01:27:372 to 01:43:372 - Same case for these guys.

00:52:902 (52902|3,53052|0,53202|1,53352|2,53502|3,53652|1,53652|0,53952|3) - Ctrl + H for the pitch.

00:57:402 (57402|1) - Move to 4, then 00:57:852 (57852|1,58002|2,58152|3,58302|2,58452|0,58452|1,58602|3,58752|2,58902|1,59052|0) - Ctrl + H for the pitch.

01:02:352 (62352|0) - Move to 3 for slight pitch relevance.

01:06:265 (66265|0,66480|1,66694|2,66908|3,67123|0,67323|1,67523|3,67710|2,67898|0,68074|1) - Ctrl + H, then 01:08:416 (68416|2) - move to 2 for pitch.

01:47:372 - Add a note here for impact.

02:02:582 - Instead of having just 2 LNs for the whole 4 seconds, why not 02:00:827 (120827|3,120827|0) - shorten these to 02:02:582 - then add 2 LNs ending at 02:04:026 - to highlight those descending piano chords?
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[4K Normal+]
Small mod inside
Buff it up? Buff it up.
Already modded this at one point, so the mod is really short.
I have some ideas that can increase the overall density and difficulty for this one, but it might take a bit too long to explain. So, poke me on IRC when you see me online!

00:45:177 - This is, in some degrees, easier to do than 00:53:652 - , primarily because some of the piano notes get replaced with LNs instead. Replace those LNs with regular notes?

01:41:979 - Random timing point that sets the time signature to 4/4?
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[Fanatic's 4K Hyper]
Mod inside
These suggestions are one of the many, so I'll most likely put up some more in the next mod.

00:03:566 (3566|0,4066|2) - Ctrl + H to be more accurate with the pitch.

00:05:688 to 00:08:558 - Try to find another arrangement for the whole pattern to follow the pitch more accurately.

00:09:663 (9663|0,9806|2) - Rearranging these to 2,1 should be enough to follow the pitch.

00:19:227 (19227|3,19277|2,19327|1) - Should be 1/4 here.

00:23:577 (23577|2,23577|1) - Might want to make this a 3-note chord with a note filled on both the outer columns to maximize impact.

00:33:927 (33927|1,33977|2,34027|3) - Should be 1/4.

01:26:081 (86081|3,86201|1) - un snaps snaps several snaps

02:02:581 - These guys should be 2-note chords so it really puts a lot more impact with the descending piano chords.
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[Whagwha Victus' 4K Another]
Mod inside
Snap errors galore.

00:19:227 (19227|2,19277|1,19327|0) - Should be 1/4 here.

00:26:577 (26577|2,26727|1,26802|2) - Ctrl + H here then 00:26:427 (26427|2) - move to 1. This is to reduce prolonged anchors on the 3rd column.

00:27:102 (27102|0,27177|2,27327|2,27402|0,27477|3) - Rearrange to 3,1,1,3,1. It'd be pretty cool if the first two measures of this were to mirror the previous one.

00:28:227 (28227|1) - Move to 1 then 00:28:527 (28527|2,28602|3) - Ctrl + J. A little similar to the reason above.

00:31:827 (31827|1) - Move to 2 to give a bit more flow in here.

00:33:677 (33677|3,33727|2,33777|0) - Should be 1/4
00:33:927 (33927|2,33977|1,34027|0) - 1/4
00:34:377 (34377|0,34427|1,34477|2,34527|3,34577|1,34627|2) - 1/4

00:35:502 (35502|0) - Remove and move 00:35:427 (35427|1) - to 1.

Well, you get the point.
There're more snapping errors than the ones I just pointed out that inflates the SR a little, so please do fix them then call me back for another look at it.
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[Tidek's 4K Monochrome]
Small mod inside
00:03:566 to 00:09:950 - Ctrl + H this whole part for the piano pitch. (Rearrange some of the notes if there're hammer patterns as a result).

00:25:977 to 00:43:077 - Seems to me that this part has a handful of ghost notes here, particularly the ones that come right after the double bar line. Those guys don't really have a connection to the music, so I think you should take those out.
01:27:372 to 01:41:622 - Same as above.

Kinda rushed this a little, sorry about that.
Call me back for another mod. It might take a week because of 9 qualified mania maps this week and exams in the middle of it, but call me back anyways.
Kaito-kun

puxtu wrote:

[Kaito's 8K Normal]
00:13:827 (13827|0) - you added double for your 4k here and I also think this should be a double chords 00:11:726 (11726|0) -
00:15:477 (15477|0) - 00:17:577 (17577|0) - 00:19:077 (19077|0) - 00:22:677 (22677|0,22977|0,23277|0,23577|0) - same, you have plenty of column more than in 4k :/
00:28:527 - 00:38:127 - kinda empty hmmm, pretty sure there's 3 sounds not 2
00:47:577 (47577|0,48327|0) - again witht the cymbal thingy, you might wanna use your 4k as reference. won't mention this issue again
About the cymbal thing, I planned on making it like that for some time, but if I make every cymbal a double (scratch + note), it would end up above 2*, which would fuck up the ranking criteria thingy saying a diff needs to be below 2* :v (unless I'm retarded and I don;t know how to distinguish cymbal from whatever other sound you may call it :v). I would need something more specific with this matter before doing something that further fucks up the diff more than it is, so no change regarding that for now.

Now, about the missing sounds, I know about that, it feels weird without notes and all, but the one who suggested it to me had a better argument than me back then, so I went with it, since this is my first GD ever and all, it may look retarded in some parts of some mods :v. Anyways, fixed the ones you pointed out, dunno if there are more tho and I'm in a rush atm :\

Blocko wrote:

[notice]
4K
4K Column:
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

[Kaito's 4K Normal]
Mod inside
00:11:726 - Some of the crashes you layered in the whole song are either single notes or 2-note chords. Some of the 2-note chords even have a LN before it instead of one note.
Only thing I can suggest here is to stick to a structure then be consistent with it. For crashes that come after an LN, stick to using 1 note so it provides just enough impact for them. For ones without LNs, stick with 2-note chords. Fixed, or at least the ones I found

00:19:602 (19602|3,20727|3,21552|1) - Might be better to extend these LNs to the next note for increased crash impact. ....Don't think so, I'll leave it as it is

00:25:977 to 00:43:077 - Structural consistency here is pretty lacking. On some measures, you have hammers, then on the other, they're a little denser than usual.
Again, stick to a structure, then be consistent with it. If you find that a little boring, then add a little twist on it, but be sure to stick to that structure for a while so it highlights which particular sounds you're charting on. I have been told this in the past, and I have yet to see the problem tbh, when I listen to the song, I see that the hammers should be there, since there's the exact sound there, and the rest isn't a hammer because it isn't the same. My ears may be shit, but that's what I hear, and wouldn't change it until I hear something different there or another point against it pops up. So, no change with this
Example: On 00:35:577 to 00:37:977 - you can use this structure and stick with it for a good amount of time so players can know what instrument you're accenting. Be sure to have some pitch relevance in those notes, though, as the piano plays a big part in this song.
01:27:372 to 01:43:372 - Same case for these guys. Same as above

00:52:902 (52902|3,53052|0,53202|1,53352|2,53502|3,53652|1,53652|0,53952|3) - Ctrl + H for the pitch. True, applied

00:57:402 (57402|1) - Move to 4, then 00:57:852 (57852|1,58002|2,58152|3,58302|2,58452|0,58452|1,58602|3,58752|2,58902|1,59052|0) - Ctrl + H for the pitch. Applied

01:02:352 (62352|0) - Move to 3 for slight pitch relevance. Applied, also moved 01:02:952 (62952|2) - to col 1 and 01:03:252 (63252|0) - to col 2

01:06:265 (66265|0,66480|1,66694|2,66908|3,67123|0,67323|1,67523|3,67710|2,67898|0,68074|1) - Ctrl + H, then 01:08:416 (68416|2) - move to 2 for pitch. Applied

01:47:372 - Add a note here for impact. meh, left it like that

02:02:582 - Instead of having just 2 LNs for the whole 4 seconds, why not 02:00:827 (120827|3,120827|0) - shorten these to 02:02:582 - then add 2 LNs ending at 02:04:026 - to highlight those descending piano chords? Well, I don't see any problem with this idea, so applied it
Kami, I probably won't be able to check any more mods for my diffs for now, any mods coming before friday I can do, but after it, I won't be on osu for medical reasons, so I'll leave my diffs up to you by then (if some of the changes are inmense gameplay-wise, you can put your name on the diff as a collab or something, don't really care XD).

UPDATE

PS: Btw, didn't checked Blocko's timing and offset thing, so if you change something there, change it on my diff too, don't want to touch the timing section of this song, would probably fuck something up without noticing XD
Tidek
Applied timing points and ctrl+H beginning from Blocko mod.

Atm not applying JS changes, need more detailed mod about that one, because Im hearing 1/4 piano through that part.

http://puu.sh/ns3Xr/d47397068f.txt
Topic Starter
Kamikaze
Okay, status of fixes done:

4K Normal+ - Applied suggestions, timing fixed
8K Melodie de tristesse - Fixed timing
8K Normal+ - Applied suggestions, timing fixed
D's 8K Another - Applied suggestions, timing fixed
Fanatic's 4K Hyper - Applied suggestions, timing fixed
Kaito's 4K Normal - Applied suggestions, timing fixed
Kaito's 8K Normal - Applied suggestions, timing fixed
Rayz' 8K Hyper - Applied suggestions, timing fixed
Tidek's 4K Monochrome - Applied suggestions, timing fixed
Whagwha Victus' 4K Another - Applied suggestions, timing fixed

I will be editing this post once I get anything done
I think that timing is still wrong because some beats have messed up correlation with measure lines
I buffed up both NM+/Adv diffs by a bit and remade some patterns on Whag's diff, introducing polyrhythms
Also fixed up backet just before chordjacks on Melodie
Kaito-kun
Just popping up to say I'll be able to continue applying mods for my diffs, reason I was going to be unable to do so dissapeared, so there's that :v.
Topic Starter
Kamikaze
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