Kyousuke- wrote:

[Whagwha Victus' 4K Another]

00:08:037 - 00:08:559 - i would like to suggest this http://puu.sh/kvQpS/f662570107.jpg it's more balance imo. also it's following the pitch like the first 00:08:558 (8558|2,9521|2) - done

00:22:977 (22977|1) - move to 3 for raising pitch done
00:25:527 - isn't this 2 notes? like 00:24:327 - , i'm suggesting to move 00:25:677 (25677|1) - this to 00:25:527 - here at the same col (on 2). so it'll make a consistent pattern 00:24:177 (24177|0,24327|0,25377|1,25527|1) - if you don't agree with this, just move that and don't make it jack I added a note for bass, didn't delete anything else
00:28:977 (28977|0) - move to 3 according to your pattern 00:26:577 (26577|2,26802|2,27777|0,28002|0,30177|1,30402|1) - done

00:33:677 - 00:33:777 - add for 1/6 piano sound like 00:33:927 (33927|2,33977|1,34027|0) - this? ok
00:39:627 - add note at 1, you make it trinotes every chord. and 00:39:927 - add at 2. done
00:40:227 (40227|2) - move to 2, like 00:30:477 (30477|2,30627|2,37677|2,37827|2) - this too much anchors here

00:42:927 (42927|1) - how about move this to 2? bcs it's high pitch and different with the notes before okay
00:46:377 - add note at 1 for the chords done
00:56:352 - add note. there's a drum sound like 00:55:152 - 00:57:552 - 00:58:152 - etc okay
01:04:070 (64070|0,64070|1,64206|1,64206|0,64592|0,64592|1,65092|1,65092|3,65217|1,65217|3) - remove one note for that faint sound only removed on 01:04:592 - because rest is pretty prominent imo

01:05:803 - 01:06:694 - isn't this the same sound? nope, first one has a little snare and diffrent pitch
01:13:037 (73037|2) - move to 1 would more balance imo did a 13 chord instead
01:13:992 - remove one note like the others made in the same way as tidek's diff (almost)
01:10:583 - add notes like 01:16:583 - ^

01:30:309 - add note for snare? at 3 and move 01:30:372 (90372|2) - this to 2 oki
^ if applied, 01:30:497 (90497|3) - move this to 3 done
01:33:247 (93247|0) - move to 2 would be better sure

01:47:934 - add note for crash okay

sorry for the delay m4m xd also i only mod one diff ;w;
dat bpm changes and weird bgm lol

goodluck!

Takane6 wrote:

hi o/

SPOILER

[General]
a... somehow some of the bpm's offest are miss placed (although its less than 5ms)... idk i just... feel it... try to ask the others about the timing tho~

[8K Melodie de tristesse]
00:20:952 - add note (same as 00:20:877 - ) :877 has a kick, :952 doesn't
00:35:727 (35727|7,35727|5,35727|1,35802|4,35877|3,36027|6,36027|5,36027|2,36177|3,36327|4,36327|6,36327|1) - its different pattern 00:36:927 (36927|5,36927|7,36927|2,37002|3,37077|4,37077|1,37152|5,37227|6,37227|7,37227|2,37302|3,37377|4,37452|5,37527|4,37527|1,37527|6) - ?
00:39:327 (39327|6,39327|4,39327|2,39402|5,39477|6,39627|1,39627|3,39627|7,39777|5,39927|7,39927|2,39927|4) - ^
00:41:727 (41727|1,41727|3,41727|6,41802|4,41877|2,41877|5,42027|4,42027|7,42027|6,42177|3,42327|5,42327|4,42327|2) - ^ Yeah ignoring that piano roll was kinda meh, so I added notes to make it a constant 1/4 stream

00:41:877 - 2 note? > 00:39:477 - 1 note Added a note on the 1 note one
00:43:077 (43077|7,43077|6,43077|1) - the consistency kinda ruined here because it has a piano rather than LN only... added some 1/2s
00:48:027 - drum + piano = 2 note ... 00:49:527 - drum + piano = 3 note? I find the 3 note chord 's piano sound much stronger than the 2 note one, if that's an issue I will change it I guess
01:04:508 - 3 note? deleted one
01:09:412 (69412|2) - delete Drum note, it speeds up here
same sound 01:12:355 - and 01:12:492 - but different amount of note? deleted that one note
01:12:628 - ^ ^
01:11:674 - 4 note >> 01:15:083 - 5 note? Added a note
01:28:684 (88684|4) - delete piano note
01:30:184 (90184|6) - ^ okay
01:34:497 - 2 note > 01:34:747 - 1 note? the beat is playing alongside the piano on first one, but deleting a note made pattern smoother so yea used that
01:57:541 - add note oki
01:58:990 - ^ oki



[Rayz' 8K Hyper]
since u doing this >>00:24:777 (24777|1,24927|1) - make mini jack in one of these 00:25:977 (25977|1,25977|5,26127|7,26127|3) -
00:27:177 (27177|1,27177|5,27327|3,27327|7) - ^
00:28:377 (28377|5,28377|1,28527|7,28527|3) - ^
00:29:577 (29577|1,29577|5,29727|7,29727|3) - ^ Deleted second notes on those two minijacks because they made no sense imo
00:46:377 - too much for 3 note I think that piano is strong enough to allow a triple here
00:55:302 - delete 1 note okay
01:25:445 (85445|4,85565|7,85682|3,85800|6,85918|2,86037|5,86156|1,86276|7,86396|3,86516|6,86637|2,86758|5) - better make each of these 2 note (make 01:25:205 (85205|3,85205|1,85205|6) - as reference) I'd rather keep this because of the BPM shifts this pattern is actually really hard to read, so I don't want to make it too complicated (kinda worried about spread as well)

Good luck !
never seen this much kind of bpm :v

Elementaires wrote:

12345678

le noob mod

Rayz' 8K Hyper

01:42:455 - note missing on 5?
also why is this part on 1/16 when its 1/6 notes

Elementaires wrote:

12345678

le et mod

8K Normal+

00:22:677 (22677|6,22677|2) - move the two notes to 2 and 6 Okay
00:22:977 (22977|1,22977|5) - ^ but on 3 and 7 Done diffrently
00:23:577 - add on 7? There's exactly same amount of sounds I'm layering on all those chords, it's just that one of them is long here so I turned a note into LN. Not gonna change that.
00:35:127 (35127|5) - imake this LN start at 00:35:052 I've considered that but 1) that would be rather hard to play 2) the piano at 00:35:052 is less impactful than one at 00:35:127 so I used that as an excuse to start the second LN there (might just remove it later on anyway)

8K Melodie de tristesse

00:39:927 and 00:40:227 are same sound but why only one is triple notes Added one to the second one
00:41:727 - delete one note Same sound as triples before tbh, not changing
00:44:077 (44077|2,44127|5,44177|1,44277|6,44277|4,44377|3,44427|7,44477|2,44577|5,44577|1,44652|2,44677|4,44727|6,44777|3,44802|7,44877|1,44877|6,44952|2,44977|5,45027|3,45077|4,45102|5) - I dont get it, it would be so much better if its wasnt "broken" and if everything was in 1/3 rhythm I do want to accent both piano 1/3 and beat 1/2 speeding up to 1/4 so I'm not going to change that. Polyrhythms are kool mang B)

01:42:372 - ^ but maybe i really dont get it l0l same tbh


btw change the word to Mélodie pls HOLY SHIT I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SUBMIT WITH UNICODE OR THIS E THING FOR 7-8 MONTHS PRAISE THE BAGUETTE!!!!!!

Rayz141 wrote:

kami forgot to snap maybe how could I ever forget that (^_^; )

puxtu wrote:

[Kaito's 8K Normal]
00:13:827 (13827|0) - you added double for your 4k here and I also think this should be a double chords 00:11:726 (11726|0) -
00:15:477 (15477|0) - 00:17:577 (17577|0) - 00:19:077 (19077|0) - 00:22:677 (22677|0,22977|0,23277|0,23577|0) - same, you have plenty of column more than in 4k :/
00:28:527 - 00:38:127 - kinda empty hmmm, pretty sure there's 3 sounds not 2
00:47:577 (47577|0,48327|0) - again witht the cymbal thingy, you might wanna use your 4k as reference. won't mention this issue again
About the cymbal thing, I planned on making it like that for some time, but if I make every cymbal a double (scratch + note), it would end up above 2*, which would fuck up the ranking criteria thingy saying a diff needs to be below 2* :v (unless I'm retarded and I don;t know how to distinguish cymbal from whatever other sound you may call it :v). I would need something more specific with this matter before doing something that further fucks up the diff more than it is, so no change regarding that for now.

Now, about the missing sounds, I know about that, it feels weird without notes and all, but the one who suggested it to me had a better argument than me back then, so I went with it, since this is my first GD ever and all, it may look retarded in some parts of some mods :v. Anyways, fixed the ones you pointed out, dunno if there are more tho and I'm in a rush atm :\

Blocko wrote:

[notice]4K

4K Column:
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

[Kaito's 4K Normal]

Mod inside

00:11:726 - Some of the crashes you layered in the whole song are either single notes or 2-note chords. Some of the 2-note chords even have a LN before it instead of one note.
Only thing I can suggest here is to stick to a structure then be consistent with it. For crashes that come after an LN, stick to using 1 note so it provides just enough impact for them. For ones without LNs, stick with 2-note chords. Fixed, or at least the ones I found

00:19:602 (19602|3,20727|3,21552|1) - Might be better to extend these LNs to the next note for increased crash impact. ....Don't think so, I'll leave it as it is

00:25:977 to 00:43:077 - Structural consistency here is pretty lacking. On some measures, you have hammers, then on the other, they're a little denser than usual.
Again, stick to a structure, then be consistent with it. If you find that a little boring, then add a little twist on it, but be sure to stick to that structure for a while so it highlights which particular sounds you're charting on. I have been told this in the past, and I have yet to see the problem tbh, when I listen to the song, I see that the hammers should be there, since there's the exact sound there, and the rest isn't a hammer because it isn't the same. My ears may be shit, but that's what I hear, and wouldn't change it until I hear something different there or another point against it pops up. So, no change with this
Example: On 00:35:577 to 00:37:977 - you can use this structure and stick with it for a good amount of time so players can know what instrument you're accenting. Be sure to have some pitch relevance in those notes, though, as the piano plays a big part in this song.
01:27:372 to 01:43:372 - Same case for these guys. Same as above

00:52:902 (52902|3,53052|0,53202|1,53352|2,53502|3,53652|1,53652|0,53952|3) - Ctrl + H for the pitch. True, applied

00:57:402 (57402|1) - Move to 4, then 00:57:852 (57852|1,58002|2,58152|3,58302|2,58452|0,58452|1,58602|3,58752|2,58902|1,59052|0) - Ctrl + H for the pitch. Applied

01:02:352 (62352|0) - Move to 3 for slight pitch relevance. Applied, also moved 01:02:952 (62952|2) - to col 1 and 01:03:252 (63252|0) - to col 2

01:06:265 (66265|0,66480|1,66694|2,66908|3,67123|0,67323|1,67523|3,67710|2,67898|0,68074|1) - Ctrl + H, then 01:08:416 (68416|2) - move to 2 for pitch. Applied

01:47:372 - Add a note here for impact. meh, left it like that

02:02:582 - Instead of having just 2 LNs for the whole 4 seconds, why not 02:00:827 (120827|3,120827|0) - shorten these to 02:02:582 - then add 2 LNs ending at 02:04:026 - to highlight those descending piano chords? Well, I don't see any problem with this idea, so applied it

roko100789 wrote:

You forgot some green points in the whole mapset. Didn't chek all the diffs, but 01:08:898 - , 01:13:174 - and 01:16:310 - aren't with the scroll speed normalized in all the six last diffs.

Evening wrote:

roko100789 wrote:

You forgot some green points in the whole mapset. Didn't chek all the diffs, but 01:08:898 - , 01:13:174 - and 01:16:310 - aren't with the scroll speed normalized in all the six last diffs.

Normalized

01:03:252 - Metronome reset There is a bpm change here already
00:23:577 - ^ Done
00:15:477 - Section sounds later than 01:18:491 - onwards because you have a 221 bpm here which shifts everything after earlier, 221 might not be needed. I honestly don't what am I supposed to do here, should I just delete the 221 bpm line or just make it 220? I've made it 220 and that shifted stuff earlier so should be good I guess

whatever

no kds

will see the map again after exams, which ends at 16 may

iJinjin wrote:

walao

[8K melodie de sad]

|S|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|

1. 00:06:110 (6110|3) - If I were you, I'd move this one column to the left so that all the pitches match. 00:08:384 (8384|3) - same goes to this place. All of these notes are G# on the piano:
   
   mm

   
   
   
2. 00:59:952 - How about adding a note for the percussion here at column 1? And then you can move the left hand patterning one column to the right so that you don't really get a trill-like pattern at columns 1 and 2
   
   mm

   
   
   
3. 01:08:250 - Kinda bugs me that the pitch of the glissandos on the piano in this section is the complete opposite direction with those staircases. I'd maybe suggest mirroring this part altogether and remap accordingly, but it's up to you (looks like this chart doesn't really care for pitch relevancy that much anyway)
   
   
4. 01:11:946 - Now that we've entered the second half of the music, I think that it would be a nice touch if you started to intensify the layering. For example, 01:12:219 - you hear those ascending piano chords every 1/2? Maybe you can add some chords to these 1/2 instead of having that 1/4 trill on columns 5 and 6. I mean, considering that this is a 7* map, I think it would be nice to have a gradual step up in difficulty starting from this point on.
   As discussed on Discord, done a bit diffrently: + 1 note for 1/2 pianos and leaving hats layered
   
   
5. 01:17:264 - 2 note chord seems too weak. Add more notes to da chord~~~~ (seriously, the layering can be more intense in most of these sections)
   
   
6. 01:25:445 - having those minijack stairs go for this whole duration can be a cause for a lot of mindblocks later on. How about varying the patterns a bit? Maybe you can start out with brackets instead and then transition into the pattern that you currently have. Use the bottom one as reference, I haven't tested that pattern out so I don't know what it would be like in terms of playability, but you know what I mean.
   
   mm

   
   I can see where you're going with it, but 1) I've asked around and people said that my pattern is more spreadout which is nicer 2) bracket kind of ruins the piano feeling of it, constant stair chords are more "accurate"
   
7. 01:27:372 (87372|5,87372|2,87372|6,87497|4,87497|2) - from here on I think it would be really nice to see some hammers happening. Giving it some 1/2 hammer chords adds a little bit of fun! (I see you've tried to use 1 note hammer on each of them, but maybe having two notes hammered emphasizes that feeling a bit more)
   
   
8. 01:53:184 - feels too empty, no? those 1/4 sounds would add a lot to the chart actually, something like
   
   mm

   
   
   
9. 02:00:827 (120827|2,120827|0,120938|1,121047|0,121047|2,121156|1,121263|2,121263|0,121370|1) - I dunno if I was the one who suggested this, but now that I look at back this pattern, the [S2][13] bracket is reaaaally cancerous. Maybe you can try rearranging these so that they aren't so difficulty to play? Also, the patterns don't have to be repetitive, you can just map a different chord structure for every 1/2.
   I reversed the 1 and 2 there, also reworked the structure of the end patterns with Ciel, he said he might drop a mod too

That's it from me, i guess. Good luck!

Julie wrote:

Some suggestion for 4K Advanced for the spread

00:25:977 - 00:33:177 - So like you can see, this part is kinda one of the easiest part of the difficulty http://puu.sh/pYHoH/0168d6631d.png .
It have the same amount of note then 4K Normal and a huge gap with Hyper, since the GDer in Hyper map for the drum, and not only he add note for the drum, he also add some 2 notes @.@.
Is also easier then the calm piano part here 00:53:652 - + which have more notes, so yeah pretty sure you can add a bit more note in this part.

So I'm pretty sure you can a bit more notes,
what I'd suggest is adding a more notes on these part 00:26:427 - / 00:26:727 - / 00:27:627 - / 00:27:927 - / 00:28:827 - /00:29:127 - , etc and so on.
Keep the rhythm consistent, don't need to match the drum like Fanatic's Hyper. Put more accent on those piano sound.

00:35:577 - to 00:42:327 - ^ Fixed
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00:33:477 - to 00:34:677 - This part follow the part before, and look a lots like 4K Normal, some might find it harder, since they have to hit the correct timing instead of "hit + release" at the same time, but some might find it easy just like 4K Normal.
How about do something like here : 00:19:227 - + , by adding a normal note at the end of the LN.
You probably want that part easier then this part 00:19:227 - , but even if you add another note it won't make it as hard as 00:19:227 - +.
So basically add another note on 00:33:777 - , 00:34:227 - and 00:34:677 - to emphasize more the last note stream of the piano with a hittable note? This is already tricky to time and it doesn't have a noticably louder sound right where the piano roll ends like the mentioned part, so I don't want to accent the same note that's accented by whole of the LN by yet another note just to make it artificially harder

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00:43:077 - to 00:45:177 - Ok this part is exactly the same as 4K Normal once again, making those stream easier with some LNs. While in 4K Hyper, is 2 notes chord on 1/2 and 1/3 snap after.
You usually put LN for like piano stream and stuff, but um, pretty sure you can replace this LN 00:43:077 (43077|2) - with some 1/2 snap notes. One note each 1/2 snap can be enough, since Hyper have 2 notes + some few jack because lack of space. I like the idea of the long note for the longer piano note so leaving that, but changing the 1/1 LNs to a 1/3 stream here

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01:45:747 - to 01:52:934 - Feel pretty much inconsistent
Example, starting at 01:47:622 - you decide to map those 1/4 stream which make this huge spike http://puu.sh/pYL2c/1dc8e0f67b.png . But then you make it like really easy, just following those loud cymbal and the end of the piano stream. Some might find it even easier then 4K Normal, since in the Normal you still to get the right timing to hit the begining of the stream by hitting the LN, while in 4K Advanced, you can just focus on getting the right timing at those loud cymbal (and end of the piano stream) even if is a bit more notes to hit, is can still be easy.
So is pretty inconsistent, for the same part, your making one part A LOTS more challenging then then other part.

If you agree that this is pretty inconsistent, maybe we can find a way by making it more consistent in irc, because um right now, it really depend on how you kinda want it. I've fixed it up myself and cleaned that part up in 8K adv as well

And by the way, for 4K Advanced and 8K Advanced, the stream start here 01:48:184 - baka =w=. ;w;


Ok so while I was trying to suggest pattern, found a few stuff from other difficulties.

For Whagwha Victus' 4K Another and Tidek's 4K Monochrome

00:33:852 - , 00:34:752 - these 2 are overmap, no sound there O.O. The piano isn't a consistent stream here. Deleted in Whag's will poke Tidek when he gets his internet fixed