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Yuji Masubuchi - Toccata and Fugue and Rock

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lepidopodus
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010년 8월 9일 월요일 at 오전 9:17:30

Artist: Yuji Masubuchi
Title: Toccata and Fugue and Rock
Source: Taiko no Tatsujin
Tags: Johann Sebastian Bach classic classical Yuuji Sushi971 Sushi
BPM: 143
Filesize: 3832kb
Play Time: 02:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.23 stars, 114 notes)
  2. Hard (4.42 stars, 289 notes)
  3. Normal (3.05 stars, 182 notes)
  4. Sushi's Insane (4.98 stars, 435 notes)
  5. Taiko Muzukashii (4.72 stars, 629 notes)
  6. Taiko Oni (4.83 stars, 808 notes)
Download: Yuji Masubuchi - Toccata and Fugue and Rock
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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If you download this map before 2010-7-13, please redownload this. There was artist name change.

Oh, and I know there are bunch of uninherit timing sections have same BPM. Well, that's for resetting barlines, and some are for resetting offset.
(though I don't know it's actually needed XD)

Now move to pending.
arien666
[Normal]
02:09:281 (2,3) - Stack seems little hard on [Normal] why don't you change to other pattern?
02:27:427 (2) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid right?

[Hard]
00:10:544 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - How about move 1 grid down?
01:09:003 (3) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid right?
01:12:919 (2,3,6) - How about move 1 grid down?
02:23:895 (2) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid right?

[Insane]
00:06:978 (4) - How about move 1 grid left?
01:42:849 (4) - How about move 1 grid right?
02:20:714 (4,5,7,8) - [Suggestion] How about make same direction please ? ;_;



[Insane] is too hard to me ;_;
Anyway good luck :3

ps. About Authentic-test... Sorry ;_;
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
All fixed~ thanks, arken!
Mapper 31
인센 4개 ㅇㅅㅇ;
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

samiljul wrote:

인센 4개 ㅇㅅㅇ;
요즘은 태고맵쪽은 신경 안쓰더라고요. 게다가 태고맵 하나는 사실 무즙.
안되면 H하나 만들죠 뭐.
Garven
I'm assuming the Taiko diffs are authentic?

[Taiko Oni]
02:23:336 (27,28,29) - These sound off to me. Try snapping them to 1/6 (28 and 29, anyway)

[Normal]
00:44:737 (2,3,4) - I keep getting messed up on these. I think it's the 2 that gets me off rhythm (when I'm in a normal diff mindset). Maybe delete it?
01:52:079 (2,3) - It's kind of hard to tell when to hold and when to hit with these two. It might be better to keep them as just normal eighth notes instead of sixteenths.

[Insane]
Man, this is way beyond me. It seemed hard to read, but that may be lack of skill speaking there.
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

Garven wrote:

[Taiko Oni]
02:23:336 (27,28,29) - These sound off to me. Try snapping them to 1/6 (28 and 29, anyway) I cannot understand NAMCO put these notes like this. Anyway, authentic is authentic.

[Normal]
00:44:737 (2,3,4) - I keep getting messed up on these. I think it's the 2 that gets me off rhythm (when I'm in a normal diff mindset). Maybe delete it? fixed
01:52:079 (2,3) - It's kind of hard to tell when to hold and when to hit with these two. It might be better to keep them as just normal eighth notes instead of sixteenths. fixed

[Insane]
Man, this is way beyond me. It seemed hard to read, but that may be lack of skill speaking there. Well that's partially due to my bad mapping skill, and partially due to weird rhythm of the music. I'll remake or do something with this if it's too much to be rankd.
Thanks a lot~
aRiskOfRain
Normal;
00:10:544 (1) - I'd increase this by 1/4 and have it as a single repeat.
01:16:415 (2,3) - 1/4 length slider followed by a 1/4 note? Change. I'd recommend one slider that spans the length of both notes.
02:00:470 (1) - Extend the length, make it have less repeats.
02:26:797 (1,2) - Don't make these point away from each other like that.

Futsuu;
Heh, I had to change my taiko keys to test this; I had "A" for one of them and it kept turning on autoplay. I can't remember the proper names for the taiko colours either...
00:27:536 (17) - Big blue one?
00:34:249 (31) - ^
01:42:849 (34) - Big red one?

Muzukashii;
Fun!

Hard;
Redo some of that spacing, particularly those end of combo jumps.

Oni;
Tasty.

Insane;
I'm not entirely fond of the style you mapped this; it feels like you've mapped this as if it were a taiko diff rather than an osu! one.

All in all, a great map set.
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

DiamondCrash wrote:

Normal;
00:10:544 (1) - I'd increase this by 1/4 and have it as a single repeat. I'll consider it...
01:16:415 (2,3) - 1/4 length slider followed by a 1/4 note? Change. I'd recommend one slider that spans the length of both notes. fixed
02:00:470 (1) - Extend the length, make it have less repeats. fixed
02:26:797 (1,2) - Don't make these point away from each other like that. fixed

Futsuu;
Heh, I had to change my taiko keys to test this; I had "A" for one of them and it kept turning on autoplay. I can't remember the proper names for the taiko colours either...
00:27:536 (17) - Big blue one?
00:34:249 (31) - ^
01:42:849 (34) - Big red one? Oops, I didn't mention it, these taiko maps are authentic maps.

Muzukashii;
Fun!

Hard;
Redo some of that spacing, particularly those end of combo jumps. remap lol

Oni;
Tasty.

Insane;
I'm not entirely fond of the style you mapped this; it feels like you've mapped this as if it were a taiko diff rather than an osu! one. Agreed, so I'm thinking about remapping this, maybe same with hard. remap lol

All in all, a great map set.
I'll fix tomorrow, then give you kudosu. fixed and kudosued, thanks!
Teara
Hey, might take awhile longer =p
I'm about 50% done
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
don't worry about that, I can wait.
aRiskOfRain

lepidopodus wrote:

Futsuu;
00:27:536 (17) - Big blue one?
00:34:249 (31) - ^
01:42:849 (34) - Big red one? Oops, I didn't mention it, these taiko maps are authentic maps.
Seems a little odd though. Never mind, then.
Nyan
아 만렙곡
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Fixed timing cause it has slighty unstable offset (not BPM), at least I think like that.
Eirene
Bach :3
Sushi
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Uploaded. Nice map, Sushi!

I'm currently working on Fantaisie-Impromptu, so next would be this.
Kurai
OMG J.S. Bach Star~
Drafura
Sushi's Insane:

00:29:403 (1) - Maybe use the same spacing of 00:31:291 (1) - and 00:32:969 (1) -

However still a good map.
banvi
Hello :D

Sushi's Insane
00:53:467 (1) nazi: 1 grid left?(grid lv3)
00:56:089 (5) ^
00:56:299 (6,7,8) nazi: 1 grid down?
00:59:026 (5) nazi: 1 grid down?
01:22:942 (1) ^
01:24:200 (11) ^
01:40:354 (3,4) nazi: 1 grid up?
01:45:599 (8) nazi: 2 grid right?
01:49:794 (1) nazi: 1 grid up?

@you&sushi Sorry for only nazi mod :?
I think other diff is okay.

Thismap is Great!!!
star & gl ;)
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Ok, let's wait until sushi comes. I'll kudosu when sushi fix something.
Anyway, thanks for modding~ :D
Astom
Hi

[Easy]
-Why BPM timing points are different from other diff =o?

Pretty nice I only check easy, normal and hard but no more problems =)
Star~
La Cataline
[General]
good job. this beatmap is awesome.


[Normal]
00:36:441 - feels like there should be a note here

[Hard]
just fine. and awesome.

[Insane]
totally love this!
01:14:550(1) remove nc?
01:16:438(2) add nc?

star~
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

Astom wrote:

Hi

[Easy]
-Why BPM timing points are different from other diff =o? whoops, my mistake. fixed.

Pretty nice I only check easy, normal and hard but no more problems =)
Star~

La Cataline wrote:

[General]
good job. this beatmap is awesome.


[Normal]
00:36:441 - feels like there should be a note here fixed

[Hard]
just fine. and awesome.

[Insane]
totally love this!
01:14:550(1) remove nc?
01:16:438(2) add nc? leave this to sushi

star~
Thanks for modding, Astom & La Cataline~
Sushi
NotShinta
Fine. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
@Sushi: updated~
@IAmNotShinta: Thanks for checking~
aRiskOfRain
Easy;

01:06:999 (1,1) - This gap feels like it should be larger
01:11:194 (1,1) - ^
02:26:506 (4,1) - ^
NotShinta
Sorry I forgot to star

What's the edit button
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

DiamondCrash wrote:

Easy;

01:06:999 (1,1) - This gap feels like it should be larger np with distance snap...
01:11:194 (1,1) - ^ ^
02:26:506 (4,1) - ^ Changed to spinner
Maybe that's because circle is kinda big, and that can make players confusing, hmm...

As I requested for recheck, kudosued~
ouranhshc
i didn't find anything
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Ah, thanks for checking ouran~
NaomiMinette
Lol, for some odd reason, I couldn't stop laughing at how odd-sounding this song is :P Anyway, I'm modding in place of I_Tatsuo_I, so here's my mod:

Blue = suggestion; don't have to fix
Green = issue; may need to be fixed
Red = fix this! :P

[Easy]
00:50:111 (3) - This note threw me off during normal gameplay :o Any way you could fix this?
01:17:592 (2) - Somewhat threw me off, but I guess it can't really be moved, huh?

[Hard]
00:24:821 (1) - Move this slider down? (Or move the previous hitcircles out of the way or something.)
01:37:417 (6,7) - Love that these are on that guy's face >_> lol

[Sushi's Insane]
01:42:662 (2) - I know this still shows up fully onscreen during normal gameplay, but isn't this note a bit too low?
01:44:341 (2) - ^

I got nothing else~
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

Blazevoir wrote:

Lol, for some odd reason, I couldn't stop laughing at how odd-sounding this song is :P Anyway, I'm modding in place of I_Tatsuo_I, so here's my mod:

Blue = suggestion; don't have to fix
Green = issue; may need to be fixed
Red = fix this! :P

[Easy]
00:50:111 (3) - This note threw me off during normal gameplay :o Any way you could fix this? fixed to slider
01:17:592 (2) - Somewhat threw me off, but I guess it can't really be moved, huh? the beat is kinda hard to begginers, so deleted

[Hard]
00:24:821 (1) - Move this slider down? (Or move the previous hitcircles out of the way or something.) fixed
01:37:417 (6,7) - Love that these are on that guy's face >_> lol lol

[Sushi's Insane]
01:42:662 (2) - I know this still shows up fully onscreen during normal gameplay, but isn't this note a bit too low?
01:44:341 (2) - ^ leave them to sushi

I got nothing else~
Thanks for modding, Blazevoir~
Sushi
No fixes for me
brikel
Hi~ :)

[Easy]
00:42:244 (1) - Move the end point to 00:42:663 ?
00:42:874 (2) - Move the end point to 00:43:292 ?

Um... This song is so hard :?
But.. it's so exciting. Star~~ :)
Mapper 31
정말 랭크를 바라며 ㅠㅠ
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

brikel wrote:

Hi~ :)

[Easy]
00:42:244 (1) - Move the end point to 00:42:663 ?
00:42:874 (2) - Move the end point to 00:43:292 ? changed to return slider, as it can be too hard for beginners.

Um... This song is so hard :?
But.. it's so exciting. Star~~ :)
Thanks for modding~

@samiljul: 그것은 BAT가 언제 와주냐에 달렸습니다.
NaomiMinette

lepidopodus wrote:

Thanks for modding, Blazevoir~
No problem :)
wmfchris
namco's remix is really poor... It hides the complexity and hamony of Bach's great organ work ._.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzR9bhei_o
there's one organ source in the music only in namco's remix...


[taiko oni]
...WTF~

[insane]
1:12:452 (9,10,11) spacing
2:00:074 (2,4) kills taiko playerthe drum sound in the song is 1/6, so change this to 1/6?
nice both in sound and pattern (better than namco's one

[hard] <- please add breaks if needed.
0:02:395 (1,2) too loud...
0:03:233 (x) break
0:07:418 (x) ^
0:11:605 (x) ^...?
0:55:250 (1) move the starting point of the slider left 1 grid
1:23:781 (4) down 1 grid
1:54:829 (2) right 1 grid

My opinion is still the same: it'll be better if the solo diff is denser, but anyway good job and star~
Kecco
•Overall•
Ok.

•Sushi•
01:08:257 (4) - 1 grid down?
01:12:033 (6) - New combo?

•Hard•
Ok.

•Normal•
02:00:703 (1) - Make this slider closer to the centre-grid?

•Easy•
Ok.

Nice map, I didn't find many errors, it's pretty perfect and the offset is really good. Nice job.
Star
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

wmfchris wrote:

namco's remix is really poor... It hides the complexity and hamony of Bach's great organ work ._.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzR9bhei_o
there's one organ source in the music only in namco's remix...
Agreed, but recent ones are better than this. Acutally, this one is kinda old.

[taiko oni]
...WTF~

[insane]
1:12:452 (9,10,11) spacing
2:00:074 (2,4) kills taiko playerthe drum sound in the song is 1/6, so change this to 1/6?
nice both in sound and pattern (better than namco's one
leave them to sushi

[hard] <- please add breaks if needed. HP drain isn't that high, but if other modders say same thing, I'll add some more notes
0:02:395 (1,2) too loud... fixed
0:03:233 (x) break as I mentioned above.
0:07:418 (x) ^ ^
0:11:605 (x) ^...? ^
0:55:250 (1) move the starting point of the slider left 1 grid moved about 1/2 grid
1:23:781 (4) down 1 grid fixed
1:54:829 (2) right 1 grid fixed

My opinion is still the same: it'll be better if the solo diff is denser, but anyway good job and star~ XD

Kecco wrote:

•Overall•
Ok.

•Sushi•
01:08:257 (4) - 1 grid down?
01:12:033 (6) - New combo? leave them to sushi

•Hard•
Ok.

•Normal•
02:00:703 (1) - Make this slider closer to the centre-grid? moved some grids down

•Easy•
Ok.

Nice map, I didn't find many errors, it's pretty perfect and the offset is really good. Nice job.
Star
Thanks for modding, Chris & Kecco~
Kiddo-Kun
Once again didn't find anything in your map :)

Maybe

[Normal]

02:06:158 (2) - Add finish?

Starred
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

Death_the_kid wrote:

Once again didn't find anything in your map :)

Maybe

[Normal]

02:06:158 (2) - Add finish? I didn't put finish there, but thanks for your suggestion, I managed to put finish somewhere else. Thanks.

Starred
Thanks for modding, Death the kid~
Sushi
Applied wmfchris' suggestions ~
Thanks for 1/6, didn't notice it

Download: Johann Sebastian Bach - Toccata and Fugue and Rock (lepidopodus) [Sushi's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Updated~
Backstep
Star ^^"
Kurai
Hi~
[Easy]
Fine.

[Normal]
Fine.

[Hard]
Fine too ._.

[Sooshee's Insane]
OMG Sushi O_°

I've already star that, so good luck ^^
Diasios
[Mod Infos]

Azure: Suggestions.
Blue: You should fix this.
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[General]

  • • Tags should be the same on all diffs.
[Easy]

  • • HP Drain Rate: 3
    • Overall Difficulty: 3
[Normal]

  • • HP Drain Rate: 4
    • Overall Difficulty: 4
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
@Kurai_: Thanks for checking~
@xxheroxx: All fixed, thanks again!
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