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NaomiMinette

lepidopodus wrote:

Thanks for modding, Blazevoir~
No problem :)
wmfchris
namco's remix is really poor... It hides the complexity and hamony of Bach's great organ work ._.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzR9bhei_o
there's one organ source in the music only in namco's remix...


[taiko oni]
...WTF~

[insane]
1:12:452 (9,10,11) spacing
2:00:074 (2,4) kills taiko playerthe drum sound in the song is 1/6, so change this to 1/6?
nice both in sound and pattern (better than namco's one

[hard] <- please add breaks if needed.
0:02:395 (1,2) too loud...
0:03:233 (x) break
0:07:418 (x) ^
0:11:605 (x) ^...?
0:55:250 (1) move the starting point of the slider left 1 grid
1:23:781 (4) down 1 grid
1:54:829 (2) right 1 grid

My opinion is still the same: it'll be better if the solo diff is denser, but anyway good job and star~
Kecco
•Overall•
Ok.

•Sushi•
01:08:257 (4) - 1 grid down?
01:12:033 (6) - New combo?

•Hard•
Ok.

•Normal•
02:00:703 (1) - Make this slider closer to the centre-grid?

•Easy•
Ok.

Nice map, I didn't find many errors, it's pretty perfect and the offset is really good. Nice job.
Star
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

wmfchris wrote:

namco's remix is really poor... It hides the complexity and hamony of Bach's great organ work ._.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzR9bhei_o
there's one organ source in the music only in namco's remix...
Agreed, but recent ones are better than this. Acutally, this one is kinda old.

[taiko oni]
...WTF~

[insane]
1:12:452 (9,10,11) spacing
2:00:074 (2,4) kills taiko playerthe drum sound in the song is 1/6, so change this to 1/6?
nice both in sound and pattern (better than namco's one
leave them to sushi

[hard] <- please add breaks if needed. HP drain isn't that high, but if other modders say same thing, I'll add some more notes
0:02:395 (1,2) too loud... fixed
0:03:233 (x) break as I mentioned above.
0:07:418 (x) ^ ^
0:11:605 (x) ^...? ^
0:55:250 (1) move the starting point of the slider left 1 grid moved about 1/2 grid
1:23:781 (4) down 1 grid fixed
1:54:829 (2) right 1 grid fixed

My opinion is still the same: it'll be better if the solo diff is denser, but anyway good job and star~ XD

Kecco wrote:

•Overall•
Ok.

•Sushi•
01:08:257 (4) - 1 grid down?
01:12:033 (6) - New combo? leave them to sushi

•Hard•
Ok.

•Normal•
02:00:703 (1) - Make this slider closer to the centre-grid? moved some grids down

•Easy•
Ok.

Nice map, I didn't find many errors, it's pretty perfect and the offset is really good. Nice job.
Star
Thanks for modding, Chris & Kecco~
Kiddo-Kun
Once again didn't find anything in your map :)

Maybe

[Normal]

02:06:158 (2) - Add finish?

Starred
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

Death_the_kid wrote:

Once again didn't find anything in your map :)

Maybe

[Normal]

02:06:158 (2) - Add finish? I didn't put finish there, but thanks for your suggestion, I managed to put finish somewhere else. Thanks.

Starred
Thanks for modding, Death the kid~
Sushi
Applied wmfchris' suggestions ~
Thanks for 1/6, didn't notice it

Download: Johann Sebastian Bach - Toccata and Fugue and Rock (lepidopodus) [Sushi's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Updated~
Backstep
Star ^^"
Kurai
Hi~
[Easy]
Fine.

[Normal]
Fine.

[Hard]
Fine too ._.

[Sooshee's Insane]
OMG Sushi O_°

I've already star that, so good luck ^^
Diasios
[Mod Infos]

Azure: Suggestions.
Blue: You should fix this.
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[General]

  • • Tags should be the same on all diffs.
[Easy]

  • • HP Drain Rate: 3
    • Overall Difficulty: 3
[Normal]

  • • HP Drain Rate: 4
    • Overall Difficulty: 4
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
@Kurai_: Thanks for checking~
@xxheroxx: All fixed, thanks again!
KRZY
Ah sorry it took me so long to mod this..

[Easy]
Quite well-made, considering the chaotic beat of the song. Well done.

[Normal]
Several spacing inconsistencies, but I don't think they affect the map in a bad way, so I guess they're okay.

[Hard]
00:51:474 (4,5) - Um...I don't really get why there are two notes instead of one, I don't hear any instrument that fits this. I guess it's up to you, but my recommendation would be to use a single note here.
02:27:029 (1,2,3,4) - These jumps...idk, may be too tough for [Hard], especially at the very end of the song, but I'll leave this up to you as well. If I were you, I'd be reducing the spacing between the notes a tad bit.

[Sushi's Insane]
Ah..challenging diff XD took me quite a few retrys to actually fc this lol

00:59:026 (5) - Down 1 grid
00:59:865 (11) - Up 1 grid
idk, looks more linear this way

obviously i can't mod taiko lol

star!
YGOkid8
General:
- Delete .osb file in Song Folder and Full Submit.

Normal:

Nazi Mod~
00:40:356 (2,1) - Move (1) a Grid Down so the flow between these two sliders are better.
00:50:634 (2,3,4) - Flip these vertically, I dunno, since it started at the top, it'd be nice if it went down... or something.

Hard:

Combo Mod~
01:37:417 (6) - New Combo(?)
02:27:659 (3) - ^(?)
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
oh my... i'm not sure if i can check the timing fine... but it seems some of the inherited timing sections is useless (because the offset is the same, as you said in the thread..." then i think you can just delete them or change to a herited one.

[Easy]
i think you may missed some clap...? emm... not sure. example: 01:53:152 (1) - the third reverse.
00:49:166 (2) - make the slider tick silenced.
pretty good Easy, though maybe a little hard for beginners.

[Normal]
01:39:096 (3) - finish?
fine. but really tired to those o o x...

[Hard]
make the circle size larger?
00:02:395 (1) - xooxo? since clap still has sth different from k
00:42:453 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - use sliders instead of them is better imo.
01:44:760 (2,3,4,5) - o oxo o xxo

[Sushi's Insane]
this is awesome!
00:58:606 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is a nazi spacing= = (1-2 =!= 3-4)
00:59:446 (7,8,9,10,11) - ^
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

DJ KRZY wrote:

Ah sorry it took me so long to mod this..

[Easy]
Quite well-made, considering the chaotic beat of the song. Well done.

[Normal]
Several spacing inconsistencies, but I don't think they affect the map in a bad way, so I guess they're okay.

[Hard]
00:51:474 (4,5) - Um...I don't really get why there are two notes instead of one, I don't hear any instrument that fits this. I guess it's up to you, but my recommendation would be to use a single note here. ㅇㅅㅇ Am I only one can hear some sound there?
02:27:029 (1,2,3,4) - These jumps...idk, may be too tough for [Hard], especially at the very end of the song, but I'll leave this up to you as well. If I were you, I'd be reducing the spacing between the notes a tad bit. fixed

[Sushi's Insane]
Ah..challenging diff XD took me quite a few retrys to actually fc this lol

00:59:026 (5) - Down 1 grid
00:59:865 (11) - Up 1 grid
idk, looks more linear this way leave them to sushi

obviously i can't mod taiko lol

star!

YGOkid8 wrote:

General:
- Delete .osb file in Song Folder and Full Submit. fixed XD

Normal:

Nazi Mod~
00:40:356 (2,1) - Move (1) a Grid Down so the flow between these two sliders are better. fixed
00:50:634 (2,3,4) - Flip these vertically, I dunno, since it started at the top, it'd be nice if it went down... or something. fixed

Hard:

Combo Mod~
01:37:417 (6) - New Combo(?) fixed
02:27:659 (3) - ^(?) fixed

NatsumeRin wrote:

Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
oh my... i'm not sure if i can check the timing fine... but it seems some of the inherited timing sections is useless (because the offset is the same, as you said in the thread..." then i think you can just delete them or change to a herited one. I set those some 'useless uninherited section' due to reset barlines. Well, this music has quite confusing beat...

[Easy]
i think you may missed some clap...? emm... not sure. example: 01:53:152 (1) - the third reverse. fixed that one, but actually I missed some clap on purpose XD
00:49:166 (2) - make the slider tick silenced. fixed
pretty good Easy, though maybe a little hard for beginners.

[Normal]
01:39:096 (3) - finish? I think it's ok...
fine. but really tired to those o o x... I should have been more creative D:

[Hard]
make the circle size larger? fixed
00:02:395 (1) - xooxo? since clap still has sth different from k fixed
00:42:453 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - use sliders instead of them is better imo. fixed, but I tend to mess it sup cause I'm crappy XD
01:44:760 (2,3,4,5) - o oxo o xxo fixed

[Sushi's Insane]
this is awesome! sushi is pro :D
00:58:606 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is a nazi spacing= = (1-2 =!= 3-4)
00:59:446 (7,8,9,10,11) - ^ leave them to sushi

Thanks, KRZY, YGOkid, NatsumeRin~
Sushi
Muya
love this song :)
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
@Sushi: Uploaded~
@Muya: Thanks for starring~
iDwarf
~Easy~
  1. 01:44:760 (1) - Place new combo on (2)
  2. 01:56:927 (1) - Remove new combo.
~Normal~
  1. 01:05:320 (1) - Remove new combo.
  2. 02:17:905 (1) - Maybe 1 grid right will be better?
Rest is fine.
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

Midget wrote:

~Easy~
  1. 01:44:760 (1) - Place new combo on (2) fixed
  2. 01:56:927 (1) - Remove new combo. fixed
~Normal~
  1. 01:05:320 (1) - Remove new combo.fixed
  2. 02:17:905 (1) - Maybe 1 grid right will be better? fixed
Rest is fine.
Thanks for modding, Midget~
roflninja
All seems solid to me

[hard] 01:06:159 (5) kinda seemed wierd to me, but don't worry about it, probably me just seeing things
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

roflninja wrote:

All seems solid to me

[hard] 01:06:159 (5) kinda seemed wierd to me, but don't worry about it, probably me just seeing things I put longer jump in there, well maybe confusing, but I'll pass this time.
Thanks, roflninja~
Yuji Tokaji
Hello,

[Easy]

- 02:04:899(1) : Remove 1 reapeat ?
- 02:06:158(x) : Add circle ?
- 02:11:612(1) : Remove 1 reapeat ?
- 02:12:871(x) : Add circle ?

[Normal]

- 01:06:156(6) : Clap instead of finish ?
- 01:45:599(3) : Spacing.

[Hard]

- 01:03:222(2) : Clap ?


Okay, that's it.
Star.
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

Slanox wrote:

[Easy]

- 02:04:899(1) : Remove 1 reapeat ? fixed
- 02:06:158(x) : Add circle ? fixed
- 02:11:612(1) : Remove 1 reapeat ? fixed
- 02:12:871(x) : Add circle ? fixed

[Normal]

- 01:06:156(6) : Clap instead of finish ? I think finish is better
- 01:45:599(3) : Spacing. I overlapped this with the end or the previous slider, so it's ok.

[Hard]

- 01:03:222(2) : Clap ? Hmm... I think normal is ok.
Thanks for modding~
Leorda
Annyeonghaseyo

[General]
How about set Preferred Skin to Taiko?

[Easy]
00:06:581 (1) - The slider is too short for easy
01:42:452 (1) - ^

01:53:151 (1) - Perhaps, make curve??
02:14:969 (1,2,1,2) - ^

[Normal]
00:31:122 (3,4,1) - Move 1 grid up?
01:24:200 (4) - ^
01:45:599 (3) - Not stacked with 2 at end
02:15:808 (2) - Make curve?
02:17:276 (2) - ^

[Hard]
00:24:402 (4) - Move 1 grid right
00:26:080 (3) - Move 1 grid left
00:27:758 (3) - Sudden jumps 0.0
00:31:122 (4) - Move 1 grid up
00:32:800 (3) - Move 1 grid down
00:34:478 (3) - Sudden jump is not good, IMO
00:42:873 (4) - Not stacked with 3 at end
00:43:187 (5) - Not stacked with 4 at end
00:43:502 (1) - Not stacked with 5 at end
01:41:403 (7) - Sudden jump, if 01:39:725 (1,2,3,4,5) is not have jump, but 01:41:193 (6,7) have a jump, I think this is sudden jump

[Sushi's Insane]
Is this authenthic diff?

Good song
STAR
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

Leorda wrote:

[General]
How about set Preferred Skin to Taiko? Music is from TnT, but I think it's better with normal skin.

[Easy]
00:06:581 (1) - The slider is too short for easy I think it's not that hard, since it's return slider.
01:42:452 (1) - ^ ^
01:53:151 (1) - Perhaps, make curve?? fixed
02:14:969 (1,2,1,2) - ^ fixed

[Normal]
00:31:122 (3,4,1) - Move 1 grid up? fixed
01:24:200 (4) - ^ fixed
01:45:599 (3) - Not stacked with 2 at end I prefer stacked here...
02:15:808 (2) - Make curve? fixed
02:17:276 (2) - ^ fixed

[Hard]
00:24:402 (4) - Move 1 grid right fixed
00:26:080 (3) - Move 1 grid left fixed
00:27:758 (3) - Sudden jumps 0.0 Hmm...
00:31:122 (4) - Move 1 grid up fixed
00:32:800 (3) - Move 1 grid down fixed
00:34:478 (3) - Sudden jump is not good, IMO
00:42:873 (4) - Not stacked with 3 at end
00:43:187 (5) - Not stacked with 4 at end
00:43:502 (1) - Not stacked with 5 at end
01:41:403 (7) - Sudden jump, if 01:39:725 (1,2,3,4,5) is not have jump, but 01:41:193 (6,7) have a jump, I think this is sudden jump

[Sushi's Insane]
Is this authenthic diff? No, all standard diff is non-authentic
Thanks for modding, Leorda~
Mok
Sorry about being this late >.<

Updated Mod's Info:
Mine are all suggestions. You're free to follow or not this mod :3
If I found a beat who must be added, i'll write it.
Remember to check spacing after all modfies :3
If my mod was helpful, feed me with kudosu.

[General]
Okay

[Easy]
00:39:518 (1) - 2 grids left.

[Normal]
00:20:211 (1,2) - Reverse this two.
00:45:495 (3) - This is unsapped.
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

tmokb93 wrote:

Sorry about being this late >.< That's ok cause I've been quite busy these days XD

Updated Mod's Info:
Mine are all suggestions. You're free to follow or not this mod :3
If I found a beat who must be added, i'll write it.
Remember to check spacing after all modfies :3
If my mod was helpful, feed me with kudosu.

[General]
Okay

[Easy]
00:39:518 (1) - 2 grids left. fixed

[Normal]
00:20:211 (1,2) - Reverse this two. fixed
00:45:495 (3) - This is unsapped. uh... that's 1/3.
Sallad4ever
Hi Lepidon :D
Sorry for the delay

[General]

- add an instant kiai time right in 02:28:498 for a fountain finish
- why is Johann & Sebastian are in the tags ? those 2 are already on the artist so no need to put them again in the tags
- tbh I'm not sure with the artis, it is true that the true creator is Bach but this rock version is arrange by another person (Yuji Masubuchi?). So shouldn't the artist is Yuji masubuchi? and Johan Sebastian Bach is on the tags?

[Easy]
- very tricky
02:07:836 (1) - I was thinking this note is following the guitar so this always surprise me, maybe delete this to make it more predictable?
02:12:871 (2) - add a clap or finish to accentuate this circle?

[Normal]
00:51:578 (4) - hmm...how about move this forward to the blue tick ?

[Hard]
FUN ;)
00:51:369 (x) - add a circle here :3
01:17:068 (X) - ^?
01:37:417 (1) - it's better to unstack 2 and make it as a jump as well, oh and I think you should increase the jump maybe around 1.8 DS?

[Taiko Muzukashii & Oni]
a-u-t-h-e-n-t-i-c

[Sushi's Insane]
orz out of my playing level, but it's still fun :)

Fun map, Double STAR~ (oh hey I'm the first one who give you a pink star :P )
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

Sallad4ever wrote:

Hi Lepidon :D
Sorry for the delay

[General]

- add an instant kiai time right in 02:28:498 for a fountain finish added in Easy, Normal, Hard.
- why is Johann & Sebastian are in the tags ? those 2 are already on the artist so no need to put them again in the tags
- tbh I'm not sure with the artis, it is true that the true creator is Bach but this rock version is arrange by another person (Yuji Masubuchi?). So shouldn't the artist is Yuji masubuchi? and Johan Sebastian Bach is on the tags? As this is rearrangement of two songs... fixed

[Easy]
- very tricky song itself is kinda confusing ._.
02:07:836 (1) - I was thinking this note is following the guitar so this always surprise me, maybe delete this to make it more predictable? fixed
02:12:871 (2) - add a clap or finish to accentuate this circle? fixed

[Normal]
00:51:578 (4) - hmm...how about move this forward to the blue tick ? fixed, and changed to circle

[Hard]
FUN ;)
00:51:369 (x) - add a circle here :3 fixed
01:17:068 (X) - ^?
01:37:417 (1) - it's better to unstack 2 and make it as a jump as well, oh and I think you should increase the jump maybe around 1.8 DS? fixed

[Taiko Muzukashii & Oni]
a-u-t-h-e-n-t-i-c

[Sushi's Insane]
orz out of my playing level, but it's still fun :)

Fun map, Double STAR~ (oh hey I'm the first one who give you a pink star :P )
Ah, thanks for your modding, Sallad~
arien666
BU to the UP orz

Anyway, good luck :3...



ps. I need 1 more kudosu ;_;<I don't mean 'GIMME KUDOSU' ;_;
IceBeam
Hi.

[Normal]
00:51:578 (4) - Move to 00:51:474? Otherwise it's really hard to read.

[Hard]
01:54:829 (2) - Add clap at the end of this slider?
02:07:836 (7) - Maybe place it closer to others to keep same spacing? The moment is hard to beat enough.

[Sushi's Insane]
Fine in general,but I don't like using 1/8 beats in 00:04:692 (1) and 00:08:887 (1) parts.

Well,pretty fine,good luck.
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

SadKangaroo wrote:

Hi.

[Normal]
00:51:578 (4) - Move to 00:51:474? Otherwise it's really hard to read. Hmm... Well it's kinda hard, but I think I'll leave this.

[Hard]
01:54:829 (2) - Add clap at the end of this slider? fixed
02:07:836 (7) - Maybe place it closer to others to keep same spacing? The moment is hard to beat enough. I think It's not that hard jump, though I'm not sure ._.

[Sushi's Insane]
Fine in general,but I don't like using 1/8 beats in 00:04:692 (1) and 00:08:887 (1) parts.

Well,pretty fine,good luck.
Thanks for moding, SadKangaroo~
Zekira
Oh, and I know there are bunch of uninherit timing sections have same BPM. Well, that's for resetting barlines, and some are for resetting offset.
(though I don't know it's actually needed XD)
Wait, lepido, I found something interesting, though I'm not sure if it works.

Instead of resetting barlines using red points...

...try using green points to define the timing signature of a certain point.

The reason why I want you to try this:

1.) I used double BPM on Dororon Girl just because it has a 3/2 slider.
2.) I immediately changed the signature to 8/4 via editing the .osu.
3.) I put the green points for kiai time, and suddenly those kiai gave me a 4/4 signature instead of 8/4, making the stanzas double again and the metronome going back.
4.) I had to manually edit .osu to give green points 8/4 timing signature.

I actually haven't tested yet it if it can define the barline signature in osu!Taiko, but it's worth a try.

And yeah I'll give timing later :/

EDIT: Suggestion: preferred skin to Taiko?

EDIT2:

Download: Yuji Masubuchi - Toccata and Fugue and Rock (lepidopodus) [Zek's Red Lines].osu
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Ok, I'll check soon. (Well, slightly busy these days XD)
Sushi

Zekira wrote:

EDIT: Suggestion: preferred skin to Taiko?
Noes!

That kills all the Hitsounds, and besides, this is not taikosu, not really needed.
Zekira
besides, this is not taikosu
orz I wasn't paying attention, hahaah
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Fixed timing. I also moved uninherited sections same as inherited sections.
I think I should delete some of red lines...
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Ok, deleted some useless uninherited timing sections.
Frank7654321
goog map.
star for it
pokedigi
Of course hoshi
Sushi
just noticed that something went wrong in my diff(maybe timing sections modifications?)

01:10:343 (5) - the timing section of this one is supposed to be 0.5x

thanks :3
Takuma
Honestly, Sushi's Insane is a tad overmapped in my opinion. The beat is really hard to follow, which is why I'm assuming lepi chose an easier beat to follow. I tried playing it and I just couldn't do it, but I'll be fair and let you know I'm not all that good of a player. I refuse to bubble this for that reason. HERE'S A STAR THO
Topic Starter
lepidopodus

Sushi wrote:

just noticed that something went wrong in my diff(maybe timing sections modifications?)

01:10:343 (5) - the timing section of this one is supposed to be 0.5x

thanks :3
I don't know why this happened. Maybe my fault orz...

Anyway, fixed~

Takuma wrote:

Honestly, Sushi's Insane is a tad overmapped in my opinion. The beat is really hard to follow, which is why I'm assuming lepi chose an easier beat to follow. I tried playing it and I just couldn't do it, but I'll be fair and let you know I'm not all that good of a player. I refuse to bubble this for that reason. HERE'S A STAR THO
OTL then I should find another BAT...
Zekira
But these kinds of songs really require you to know the song beforehand... most classical songs do anyway. I know this since I can pretty much sightread Sushi's map, but that's because I know the song.
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Song itself has kinda weird beat so insane can be really insane... Well at least people are somewhat familiar with this music.
Takuma
That's true. I tried Sushi's a few more times and it's alright now.. so yeah whatever
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Yeah~ bubbled. Thanks for Takuma & Sushi~
Andrea
All looks on order to me.

Ranked~
soulfear
Congratolations!
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