This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, October 02, 2010 at 12:25:52 PM

Artist: Within Temptation
Title: Angels
Tags: Armin
BPM: 181.95
Filesize: 22318kb
Play Time: 03:47
Difficulties Available:

1. Armin's Normal (2.99 stars, 253 notes)
2. Hard (3.93 stars, 307 notes)
3. Insane (4.69 stars, 365 notes)

Download: Within Temptation - Angels
Download: Within Temptation - Angels (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Both regular difficulties. Moved to pending

Added a background,


If you Want to do a difficulty I'd be happy to accept it. Great song needs many ways to play...

I may make a Taiko map but for now we'll wait and see.

EDIT1: Added preview and fixed some spacing errors.
EDIT2: Normal was abnormal. Dropped difficulties. 3.5* now
EDIT3: Using High-Def .mp3 file, reset the timing and offset, Reset normal. Set normal as "Hard." Set "Hard" As "En's mix"
EDIT3.5: Whoops. Fixed the .5 Timing section on hard. Reset difficulty values
EDIT4: Added preview points. o-o
EDIT5: Forgot some old timing sections. Fixed.
EDIT6: Renamed "Mix" as Insane by request
EDIT7: Applied Leorda's mod. Looks like this beatmap isn't going to heaven yet
EDIT8: Applied stickmeister's mod. Working on applying spinners
EDIT9: Uploading Armin's normal. Added video
EDIT9.5: Set preview point on "Armin's normal"
EDIT10: Modding.
EDIT11: Back, Sorry for the wait, everyone. O_O. Modding
EDIT12: Back again. Mods finished.
EDIT12.5: lostPreview points on OSB deletion. replaced.

I totally hate you & your beatmap, too many jumps. LOL
I'm not superman you know, I can't hit everything like you can. D:

anywayz,
I'm gonna be mean to you now.

STOP PILING NOTES!!! D:
It's hurting my head.
Your notes are piled & everywhere but that's supposed to make the beatmap fun eh?!

Here's an example dear:
Difficulty - Normal:
- 01:43:707(2,3)- Where in hell did that note in the middle come from?
I didn't even see the approach circle. Told you you're a haxor. Jeez.
FIX IT OR SOMETHING, I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT NOTE. D:
- 01:48:019(8,1, random ass switching. LOL) - You're making the spaces too large, CAN YOU REACH THAT?!
- 02:03:739(1?,2,3) - LOL, YOU NOTE PILING PERSON. & It's STILL on Normal. I wonder what's on
hard. Well, neh, it's actually better than normal, just relook the spacing, you haxor.

But yeah, you should fix that though. Before someone like lesjuh comes along then starts arguing over the map. LOL.
I hope he can catch the jumps. Unlike YOU CAN. D:

But I love you so I'm gonna ★ it. /ftw <3
/★★★~

http://up.ppy.sh/files/withintemptation-angels.mp3 -> The new HQ mp3
Delete all non-inherited timing sections (the red ones) and just add these values:

BPM: 181,95
Offset: 1636

1) Resnap all notes (Timing > Resnap All Notes)
2) Press Ctrl+A (you'll select all the hitobjects)
3) Move these hitobjects dragging the first slider here: 00:14:826
4) Add a inherit section (=green section) here: 00:14:496 with a 0,5 BPM
5) Add a 1,0x BPM section here: 00:49:143

Fix the timing, and I'll mod this again (post this in my queque or contact me in-game)

Starred.

Mods please move this back to WIP Thread, Back from a breif vacation and have updates for this map

Thank you.

Go~

HI

[General]
1) Your bg (Angels-Within-Temptation-angels-5255467-1631-1423.jpg) need to resize to 1024x768 or find another bg (current 880x768)
2) You need an easier diff to get it ranked (If you want to make the easy diff, make sure the HP Drain Rate is Low, Large Circle Size, and Overall Difficulty is Low. And then slider velocity must low and spacing not big)
3) No tags?

[Hard]
00:23:729 (4) - Unrankable slider LOL(Don't let endpoint overlap startpoint, so you can't follow the path)
00:26:368 (2) - Don't let this object is hidden at start 0.0
00:54:067 (2) - ^
01:20:778 (1) - Unrankable slider LOL (Do not slider overlap themself!)
01:27:044 (1) - Unrankable slider LOL (Don't let endpoint overlap startpoint, so you can't follow the path)
02:04:966 (2) - Unrankable slider LOL (Do not slider overlap themself!)
02:05:955 (4) - ^
02:14:529 (9) - ^
02:25:082 (7) - Unrankable slider LOL (Don't let endpoint overlap startpoint, so you can't follow the path)
03:10:259 (2) - Unrankable slider LOL (Do not slider overlap themself!)
03:33:672 (9) - ^
03:44:224 (7) - Unrankable slider LOL (Don't let endpoint overlap startpoint, so you can't follow the path)

[Insane]
So many jump!

00:26:368 (2) - Don't let this object is hidden at start 0.0
01:15:832 (5,6,7) - Evil jump
01:19:954 (4) - Don't let this object is hidden at start 0.0
01:26:219 (12) - ^
01:53:095 (5) - ^

This map needs more work
So, star

Awesome song

If you don't mind, I'll gladly make a guest diff. >.<

Or atleast, I'll try to. Since long songs aren't my strongest side when it comes to mapping.

Teras wrote:

Awesome song

If you don't mind, I'll gladly make a guest diff. >.<

Or atleast, I'll try to. Since long songs aren't my strongest side when it comes to mapping.

I would like a normal version.. Armin's making an easy. Can you handle making a normal diff? and thanks for the star ;D

Leorda wrote:

HI
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[Hard]

02:14:529 (9) - Unrankable slider LOL (Do not slider overlap themself!)
03:33:672 (9) - ^

All but these are done. I also did not modify the sliders under another slider if the ends were sticking out, the approach circles and the slider leg should be enough of a warning. (reasons I hold to myself)

And also

1) Your bg (Angels-Within-Temptation-angels-5255467-1631-1423.jpg) need to resize to 1024x768 or find another bg (current 880x768)

I will fix this.

2) You need an easier diff to get it ranked (If you want to make the easy diff, make sure the HP Drain Rate is Low, Large Circle Size, and Overall Difficulty is Low. And then slider velocity must low and spacing not big)

That map is being made by another player.

Thank you for the help

EnPassant wrote:

Teras wrote:

Awesome song

If you don't mind, I'll gladly make a guest diff. >.<

Or atleast, I'll try to. Since long songs aren't my strongest side when it comes to mapping.

I would like a normal version.. Armin's making an easy. Can you handle making a normal diff? and thanks for the star ;D

Sorry. But I can't then. I'm useless at mapping normals :-/

Hmm. I'd accept your own version of Hard or expert? I'll leave it up to you. If you make it and I like it I'll add it.

Thanks for asking. Just making it clear, I'd prefer it being quite a bit different from my own, to accept different playing and modding styles. I would hope you would understand. Mixes are acceptable too if I like it! ^-^

Interesting song. The sudden whiplash in tone scared me a little. Not kidding. It also sorta caught me off guard, what with the BPM change.

General Notes
You don't use Spinners anywhere. That's eliminating a (arguably good) part of the game. Look below for spinner suggestions in blue. You can decide whether or not you want to put any of the suggestions in.
The song is pretty long. I'm surprised Insane only has a 5 million max score. This is entirely my opinion, since it's still at under 10 million, so you don't need to do anything. In fact, FORGET I SAID ANYTHING SCRIBBLE THAT OUT
Timing sounds perfect.

Spinner Suggestions
00:50:440: Spinner here perhaps? To 00:52:584 A spinner here would actually be a fine idea because of the huge BPM and tone change, so a Spinner can be used for emphasis.
02:25:576: Spinner suggestion here to 02:30:687.
03:44:719: Spinner suggestion here to 03:49:830

Insane
You need a break somewhere between 1 minute and 2 minutes. Just a suggestion.
01:19:954: This beat shouldn't be slyly hiding underneath the slider, especially how close it is to the slider on the time line.
01:26:219: Again.
01:30:506: New combo, a 15 long combo in my opinion is too long. (Especially for how high the HP Drain is.)
01:46:826: New combo? A 13 long combo isn't that bad, but I recommend it. Don't have to though.
01:53:095: No beat under slider. No-no.
02:03:977: Note here.
02:08:593: New combo, but again, a 13 long combo isn't that bad, so you don't have to.
03:15:370: New combo here is actually pretty much needed.

Hard
You need a break somewhere between 1 minute and 2 minutes. Just a suggestion.
00:27:687: Clap hitsound.
01:07:917: Style suggestion, put this note on top of 1.
02:08:264: Maybe make this stream closer?
02:14:529: This slider...Oh man, I can imagine the frusturation now. Move the first slider hitcircle so it doesn't overlap itself, it's really confusing.
03:15:205: New combo.
03:27:406: Move this stream closer?
03:33:672: YOU DID IT AGAIN! How dare you! Nah, just kidding, just be careful with this kind of slider.

Star, good job. I normally wouldn't star a map like this, but it's in Work in Progress and I like it.

Thanks. I'll make ammends tomorrow.. bit late for work.. >.< -yawns-

All done.

Normal diff+ Video
http://www.mediafire.com/?r38bthi5i3c71ia

8,5/10

Video offset: 600ms

Tell me if you want a better video, but consider the file video size.

Kudosu star

Download: Within Temptation - Angels (EnPassant) [Armin's Normal].osu

You're the best. ;D

...

But for some reason your map has an audio error. My maps are running the same offset + BPM yet for some reason when your map runs on my Osu! it starts earlier (Actually, one full measure forward to be exact) Any ideas why? I'm stumped =/

Fixed? O.O

Download: Within Temptation - Angels (EnPassant) [Armin's Normal].osu

All fixed. We're pending now ;D

Hey. =3 yes more maps xD

Delete the osb.file and fully submit.

[Armin's Normal]
Double check spacing.
Set a Preview Point.
Seems fine.

[Hard]
Seems fine.

[Insane]
Seems fine.
A little different...Yet very similar to hard. Consider making this difficulty harder.

Overall...LMAO at the video! Keep trying!

~STAR

Thanks.

[General]
I don't know... Shouldn't the Kiai Time start at 03:18:173 OR 03:18:503 instead?

[Armin's Normal]
Why is this the only difficulty without custom combo colors?

[Hard]
01:11:215 (6) - Fix the slider's end so that (5) stacks properly?
02:01:668 (2) - Fix the slider's end so that (1) stacks properly?

[Insane]
Fine~

Nothing really to complain about. ★~

Hi~
Nice song

General
Source?
Tags?

Armin's normal
Do the colors like in other diff
03:13:227 - mb break time?
03:18:503 - mb kiai in this time?

Hard
00:40:877 (1,2,3) - 1 grid left
00:43:845 (5,6,7,8) - ^
01:05:279 (4) - put a square in begin of the slider 1 grid down
01:36:277 (4,5,6) - ends of the sliders in the (3)
01:41:553 (5,6,7) - ^ in the end of the slider (3)
02:24:752 (6,8) - 1 grid down
02:31:017 (1,2,3,4) - mb in the end of the sliders add whistle?
03:18:668 - kiai in that time?

Insane
00:38:239 (4,5) - 1 grid down
00:43:845 (5) - 4 grids left
01:46:829 (3) - put it to the end of the slider
02:51:792 (1) - do it simmetrical
03:27:406 (8) - 1 grid down

Good, star

Sorry for the late reply. I'll get right on them

Thanks for the wait. All fixed

Here my little modd, take this as suggestions ! do what you want wif !

[Overall]
All Diff are great, you have to find some good HS for this song, to have a really great beatmap

[Armin's Normal]

02:50:473 (5) - Remove and Add a slider (http://puu.sh/9Qj)
02:51:133 (6) - ^
03:15:205 (1) - Move to 03:16:194 remove new combo
03:15:535 (2) - Move to 03:15:205 Add new combo, add reverse arrow

Great diff, nothing more to say except: Change the hitsounds for whistle, that's sucks hard on this song xD

[Hard]

01:43:861 (1) - Move to 01:44:191, remove clap
02:08:264 (1-5) - Not sure about this stream, he looks weird, maybe you should make a stack instead of a line
03:16:194 (6) - New combo (the rythm that you are following change so it's seems better to put a NC)
03:27:406 (1-5) - see 02:08:264. There is no drum at this point, so you should make a stack. Otherwise some people will try to follow lyrics, and will be surprised

[Insane]

03:27:406 (8) - New Combo


Nice beatmap !
Star~

I'll get on it in a moment, thanks.

Serval wrote:

Here my little modd, take this as suggestions ! do what you want wif !

[Overall]
All Diff are great, you have to find some good HS for this song, to have a really great beatmap Affirmitive.

[Armin's Normal]

02:50:473 (5) - Remove and Add a slider (http://puu.sh/9Qj) Too complicated for the song's easiest difficulty
02:51:133 (6) - ^ Ditto
03:15:205 (1) - Move to 03:16:194 remove new combo I'm not changing this, although a reasonable sugestion, it'd make it the same old boring rhythm.
03:15:535 (2) - Move to 03:15:205 Add new combo, add reverse arrow Ditto

Great diff, nothing more to say except: Change the hitsounds for whistle, that's sucks hard on this song xD
Once I find a better one, consider it done
[Hard]

01:43:861 (1) - Move to 01:44:191, remove clap I disagree. The clap note holds up the major beat and provides structure, but I did add a note where you suggested for a lead-in
02:08:264 (1-5) - Not sure about this stream, he looks weird, maybe you should make a stack instead of a line I modified the stream. I don't want to remove it completely, it removes some of the fun from the song
03:16:194 (6) - New combo (the rythm that you are following change so it's seems better to put a NC) Agreed. Changed
03:27:406 (1-5) - see 02:08:264. There is no drum at this point, so you should make a stack. Otherwise some people will try to follow lyrics, and will be surprised Good catch. Fixed, sorta.

[Insane]

03:27:406 (8) - New Combo Leaving this for now, Insane diff = 13 ~ Reasonable


Nice beatmap !
Star~

Kudos~

[osz File Scan!]
Empty .osb file, please delete and full submit.
The video is too big, consider reducing the resolution, right now the osz file is 21 MBs
mp3 at 320 bit rate, re-encode at a lower bitrate.

[General]
No tags?
Lower the volume of your hitsounds specially in the soft sections they sound very loud

[Timing]
Offset -18 ms
01:59:030 ~ 02:30:687 For the sake of consistency, there could be a kiai time here too
03:18:503 - Move Kiai 1/1 earlier

[Insane]
for the sake of not writing a wall of text i'm just going to say that there arent any technicalities on the map, however lots of your sliders could use more work, for example 00:56:046 (1), 01:05:939 (6), 01:24:405 (3) and specially 01:29:682 (5), also the patterns feel kind of bornig to play it feels really repeated and forced as in there's barely any real patterns out there and some of them look kinda random, i recommend you check the mapping techniques forum or check other ranked maps to see how to add more spice to your map.
00:55:716 (5,1) - Swap new combo
01:27:044 (1,2) - Swap new combo
01:59:030 (7,1) - Swap new combo
02:35:964 (6) - Remove hitsound finish?
03:11:248 (3) - New combo

[Hard]
00:54:067 (2) - Slider completely covered by previous slider unrankable
01:07:917 (5) - Stack below (1)?
01:20:778 (1,2) - Doesnt good luck sthetically and also i think theese count as burai sliders which are unrankable.
01:37:596 (6) - Slider repeat covered by previous slider's hitburst.
01:42:213 (6) - ^

[Armin's Normal]
This difficulty is not easy enough to pass as the Easiest diff of the mapset.
Other than that, no problems were found

Just here to note that you don't need to change the mp3. Even thought the mp3 reads as 320 kbps, the file size of the mp3 divided by the length of the song yields 256.4 kbps. If we subtract out the size of tags, the file size bit-rate should fit eh 256 kbps ranking standard.

General;

Don't have white as a combo colour, it's rather blinding during kiai time.
I highly suggest you make an easier difficulty.

Normal;

03:15:535 - This shouldn't be a 1x section, should it?

Hard;

Shouldn't you have the 0.5x sections on all the verses and the 1x sections in all the choruses...?
00:44:834 (8,1) - This overlap is ugly.
00:53:078 (1,2) - These sliders overlapping are unrankable.
01:15:832 (5,6,7) - These jumps are silllly.
01:36:936 (5,6) - The 6's repeat is hidden by the hirburst of the 5; unrankable.
01:41:553 (5,6) - ^
02:17:167 (5,6,7) - This is barely readable with the overlapping sliders, change it.
02:58:222 (7) - Delete.
03:08:280 - Unsilence this repeat kthx.
03:36:310 (5,6,7) - See 02:17:167.

Insane;

00:44:834 (8,1) - Overlapping slidersss
01:37:596 (7) - Semi-hidden repeat =
03:08:280 - Unsilence this repeat kthx.

Back. Again.

All done.

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