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Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories Skin

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Dark Deception_old
Well, since nothing furthermore said, It's time for the Kingdom Hearts skin to launch!










Download: Kingdom Hearts COM.zip
nintendoto
wow...
Sinistro
Aren't these icons too small to use effectively without having to enlarge them to a pixelated mess?
awp
you can probably find high-res graphics to use from the PS2 remake

I don't personally see why sprites need to be used, but a card silhouette would make for a good hitcircle.
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old

awp wrote:

you can probably find high-res graphics to use from the PS2 remake

I don't personally see why sprites need to be used, but a card silhouette would make for a good hitcircle.
yeah, but sprites are my thing. And unlike 31Gabe, who just enlarges it to a moutain of pixles, I plan carefully.

But what could the keyblade be used for? A sliderball or a spinner?
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
Well, the first things I finished are the fonts and 3 of the countdown sprites.

I know it will look like a pixleated mess, but like I said, I plan carefully.

Besides, there GBA sprites.





awp
I don't know but I use a Keyblade (Kingdom Key) as my actual windows cursor so you can always do that.
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
Well, I got a lot of it done:

reversearrow
meter
spinner
and more

but I'm still getting more of it done.





awp
. uh

the pixellation on the Card Break looks really sloppy to be honest, as does the x behind it. And the cursor is pointing down? That'd fuck with your head. Mine works like a mouse cursor; points up and left.

Lifebar is workable, but in my opinion unimaginitive. Also, random. I mean, there are lifebars in KH. Why not use that to give it an actual KH feel, and not just an eclectic mix of KH graphics?
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old

awp wrote:

. uh

the pixellation on the Card Break looks really sloppy to be honest, as does the x behind it. And the cursor is pointing down? That'd fuck with your head. Mine works like a mouse cursor; points up and left.

Lifebar is workable, but in my opinion unimaginitive. Also, random. I mean, there are lifebars in KH. Why not use that to give it an actual KH feel, and not just an eclectic mix of KH graphics?
Okay, you got me in a pickle, but here's my thoughs:

1. The X behind the Cardbreak is the same one that I used from the template skin, in fact, that IS the X from the template skin, only the black outline is gone. And maybe I should tell you that: It's not Pixleated, it's enlarged. But you CAN help me out on that.

2. No matter which direction the cursor will point down, I really don't know...

3. I decided to use the KH: Com lifebar and since I have to, I created the background myself...

Well, maybe I'll just drop off a few more pic and then I'll get back to work on the skin.





Saturos

Dark Deception wrote:

It's not Pixleated, it's enlarged.
/thread
awp
equip the Scan ability imo
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
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Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
More stuff on deck!





Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
Thrown in skinned mods!

These below are the examples, but I'll tell you what they mean:

Feeble Darkness=Easy
Almighty Darkness=Hardrock
Moment's Reprieve=Nofail
Key to Truth=Sudden Death
Moogle Room=Relax *Kupo*
False Bounty=Hidden
Sleeping Darkness=Halftime
Looming Darkness=Doubletime
Wadadon card=Taiko *Do I have to ask?*

That's all of them, 'cept the No video one...





Sakimichi

Saturos wrote:

Dark Deception wrote:

It's not Pixleated, it's enlarged.
/thread
True furthermore, the enlarger items are not in the right proportion [makes my eyes water imho] You could re pixelate it [trace] so it wont look blurry on the edge and try adjusting it not to wide not to long but on the right proportion. ;)
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
Can anyone tell Devkit4384 to create the Ranking letters from the Kingdom Hearts 2's gummi ship missions for me? Even make an X, XH and SH rank from scratch?
awp

Dark Deception wrote:

Can anyone tell Devkit4384 to create the Ranking letters from the Kingdom Hearts 2's gummi ship missions for me? Even make an X, XH and SH rank from scratch?
Can you? =x Either make or tell
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
Well, I decided to use the Kingdom Hearts text I downloaded and place with the other text files, but I'm going to show you one of them as a teaser.

Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
I done some revamping.





awp
Task complete? I don't recall there being tasks in CoM =x

Also for the 100Beat, 300Beat and 300Elite Beat you should use the Key to __________ cards???
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old

awp wrote:

Task complete? I don't recall there being tasks in CoM =x

Also for the 100Beat, 300Beat and 300Elite Beat you should use the Key to __________ cards???
For the pass and fail sprites, I thought that I would use the whole call the sections 'tasks' in this skin.

And yeah. I'm using cards as hit sprites.
awp
the hit300g you posted, imo, is not optimal - it's just the 300, but filled in, basically. That's why I mentioned the "Key To __________" cards (I forget their actual names, but they're something like Key To Beginning, Key To Heart, Key to Something - idk, there's also Key to Treasure but that's not necessary as you have the other 3).
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
You mean:

Key of beginnings, key of Guidence and Key to the truth?
awp
That sounds about right. Haven't played CoM in a few years and couldn't read the japanese when I played ReCoM so it's been a while for me.
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
About the 300g, I type in 'Critical hit' and left the 100k and 300k unedited... Maybe typing in 'hit' is suffice?
awp

Dark Deception wrote:

About the 300g, I type in 'Critical hit'
That seemed kind of unimaginative imo when there are better alternatives
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
Skin launched! Go to the first post.
hunnykilla
What i like about this skin is the song selection screen, the background. Ranking screen, and the cursor is alright too. Coundown, beats and the slider look okay.
Vic
But...Bu-but-but its pixelated =(
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old

Vic wrote:

But...Bu-but-but its pixelated =(
Why? It looks great... :(
Vic

Dark Deception wrote:

Vic wrote:

But...Bu-but-but its pixelated =(
Why? It looks great... :(
But its pixelated ;<
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old

Vic wrote:

Dark Deception wrote:

Vic wrote:

But...Bu-but-but its pixelated =(
Why? It looks great... :(
But its pixelated ;<
Look! The word, 'pixleated', is the only word that you heard coming out of 31Gabe's mouth. Since he's not there, the word that is to be said is enlarged.

Also, I don't think a single thing on this skin is wrong.
Saturos
Pixelated is a term other users were calling Gabe's skins, because they were. As is yours. It's a result of enlarging small sprites. It's looks bad.

An example of a work-around can be seen in the TWEWY skin. awp redrew Neku for the results screen by hand even though he had the sprites. He did this because enlarging the sprite would have resulted in a pixelated look.
awp

Dark Deception wrote:

Also, I don't think a single thing on this skin is wrong.
Of course you don't, because you made it. It's an eclectic mix of your inability to see your own flaws (this is human nature), in addition to both pride and stubbornness that prevents you from being able to see your own mistakes. That's what critiques are for - other people will see flaws you have missed.

The aforementioned Neku that Saturos mentioned has been through at least eleven revisions. Granted I KNEW the first posted version was not perfect but I thought eh, whatever, it's close enough - of course, I was dead wrong. The second wasn't good, the third wasn't good, the tenth wasn't good enough - the purpose of posting things is not just to showcase it, but for others to help you improve it. Version 12 of TWEWY's ranking panel is way the hell better than Version 1, and I have osu! community to thank for that (in addition to strings of profanity and hours of frustration and labour).

I can not offer much criticism on this skin as I have not personally tried it out, but the presence of pixellation gives it an ugly sort of feel. General rule of thumb, I think, is that anything above 200% resize is too much.

Also, using sprites (exclusively) to make a skin generally does not yield good results.
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old
Well, like I said back at the first page, sprites are my thing. What do you think of the hitcircle?
awp
it looks a bit rough, to be honest

The slider and score font look pretty awesome, but other than that, there isn't a lot I'm keen on. I'm still not too sure why you didn't go with the standard KH-CoM lifebar for the, er, lifebar. Too boring?
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old

awp wrote:

it looks a bit rough, to be honest

The slider and score font look pretty awesome, but other than that, there isn't a lot I'm keen on. I'm still not too sure why you didn't go with the standard KH-CoM lifebar for the, er, lifebar. Too boring?
Nah! It's not boring to me.

Well, since you said that the card hitcircle looks rough, maybe you could ask MaxwellDemon to Vectorize some of the sprites, make a hitcircle with the Organization XIII icon, and other stuff that he could fix up? Vic said it "Pixleated", so maybe he could help out with this skin, just like he does for your TWEWY skin.

Speaking of TWEWY, is your skin close to finished? Because the partner system, to my thought, could also be used for the Kingdom Hearts skin, if I could give credit.
awp
TWEWY Skin's done - of course, it will be upgraded, and tweaks need to be made as new features become available (eg multiplayer), but it's not compatible with the current public build (found that out the hard way) so it's not available yet.

As for rendering rough pixellations - why not try google search, first? The card logo is not overly complicated, and I'm sure there are plenty of Re:CoM resources you could use.
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old

awp wrote:

TWEWY Skin's done - of course, it will be upgraded, and tweaks need to be made as new features become available (eg multiplayer), but it's not compatible with the current public build (found that out the hard way) so it's not available yet.

As for rendering rough pixellations - why not try google search, first? The card logo is not overly complicated, and I'm sure there are plenty of Re:CoM resources you could use.
Soooo, can you give me some site examples?
awp
google.ca
RemmyX25
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old

RemmyX25 wrote:

Try this, hope it helps!

http://www.gsarchives.net/index2.php?category=all&system=gameboyadvance&game=kingdom_hearts_chain_of_memories&type=sprites
I've checked, RemmyX25, but no luck...

Any other locations?
DiZ1881
thanks for making this! now...(waits for Simple and Clean Beatmap to be made)
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old

DiZ1881 wrote:

thanks for making this! now...(waits for Simple and Clean Beatmap to be made)
Thanks! :D
Boxed_Slug
I have the PS2 version of Chain of Memories, I could probably take screenshots of parts of the game if you'd like. Though it'd be a bit blurry since I only have S-Video connection from my PS2. Cut pieces out and vectorize them and I'm sure they'd look pretty awesome if done right.
awp
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Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old

Boxed_Slug wrote:

I have the PS2 version of Chain of Memories, I could probably take screenshots of parts of the game if you'd like. Though it'd be a bit blurry since I only have S-Video connection from my PS2. Cut pieces out and vectorize them and I'm sure they'd look pretty awesome if done right.
Well, I have no I dea how to vectorize stuff, but yeah! Go ahead and send me some screenshot! ;)

awp wrote:

I mentioned this once but I think the skin would need to be completely rehauled if that were to be done otherwise it'd just look sloppy to be half and half.
Well, I'm kinda slow right about now, but you supply me with some of your edits on them, and I'll think of it. Besides, I really appreciate some help anyways. ;)
LuigiHann
this is the worst skin ever
Topic Starter
Dark Deception_old

LuigiHann wrote:

this is the worst skin ever
Well excuse me, LuigiHann! I haven't played osu! or made any upgrades to my skins for about a month now and your calling my skin The WORST? I haven't touched osu! for a month and someone kinda liked this skin!

I'm sorry... :cry:
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