Estellia- wrote:

S-Surprise >w<

[Miracle]

1. 00:07:790 (3,1) - Blanket fix k
2. 00:13:138 (1) - Consider Ctrlg k
3. 00:16:701 (1,1) - Consider no stack i think its fine
4. 00:21:454 (1,2,3) - DS may be a problem ^
5. 00:23:533 (6,1) - very very very very minor blanket fix fixed
6. 00:23:831 (1,2) - Flow is pretty ugly, consider changing slider shapes fine imo
7. 00:26:206 (1,2,3) - DS is very awkward, try make DS of 2 to 3 = 1 to 2 sorta fixed ds
8. 00:30:959 (1,1) - Consider no overlap intended
9. 00:40:464 (1,2,3) - Try blanket? nah, it's as I want it
10. 00:42:840 (1,2,3) - Flow is very clumsy, try separating them i like it
11. 00:43:731 (2,3,1) - DS is very weird it's fine
12. 00:51:157 (3,1) - This doesn't look very nice, consider changing slider shape of 3 or unstack them unstacked
13. 00:52:939 (2,3) - Super nazi, but awkward flow kinda, consider rotate 3 by 90 deg counter clockwise and ctrlg no, intended
14. 00:54:721 (1,2) - Weird flow IMO, consider making slider 1 something similar to 00:08:384 (1) - it's fine
15. 00:57:097 (1,2,3) - DS a bit weird, and curve slider 2 a little less, maybe? fixed stuff
16. 01:02:741 (3,4) - Make this just one slider? nah, I wanna map the beat where 4 starts
17. 01:08:979 (3,4,1) - slider 1 doesn't seem to fit anything strong in the music ?
18. 01:10:761 (2,1) - Don't overlap these 2, looks weird intended, looks fine to me
19. 01:13:137 (2,4) - Place 4 somewhere else, just not on 2, backwards flow is very weird i personally like it
20. 01:36:306 (1,3) - Instead of stacking these, make 2 and 3 flow circularly i dunno, i like what I have there
21. 01:43:731 (1,2,3) - Weird how they all intersect also intended, overlaps kawaii
22. 01:53:236 (2,4) - Try blanket these 2? nah, 4 is as is cuz of the next slider
23. 01:54:127 (4,1) - Don't really like the intersections
24. 01:58:286 (2,3) - Nazi, flow is kinda weird not really imo
25. 02:02:444 (1) - Wow x.x This slider looks unrankable. The kink needs to be visible I'll get opinions on it, looks fine
26. 02:08:385 (3,4,5) - DS a little weird it's frequent throughout the map
27. 02:09:573 (1,1) - Weird flow here idk, let's see
28. 02:18:484 (5,1) - Blanket it's fine lol
29. 02:28:583 (1,3) - The intersection is weird, if anything try blanket them nope, right how i want it
30. 02:30:959 (1,2,3) - DS should be consistent here nah, 4 is on the strong piano sound so
31. 02:32:147 (3,1) - Don't like how they intersect kawaii
32. 02:35:712 (1,2,3) - DS fix nope, intended
33. 02:40:464 (1,2,3,4,5) - DS can make it hard to follow
34. 02:45:811 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
35. 02:49:969 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
36. 02:54:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
37. 03:00:662 (3,4,5) - ^ no for all the above
38. 03:01:850 (1,3) - Don't like the intersect woof
39. I think I'll stop with the DS changes here, you probably know what to look out for, will explain later
40. 03:22:642 (1,2) - Don't like the intersect woof
41. 03:27:036 - Very awkward to play, shift 2 out a little more i think it's fine
42. 03:35:117 (3,1) - Don't exactly like the intersect woof woof
43. I think I'll stop with the intersections here, you probably know what to look out for, will explain later
44. 03:36:305 (1,2) - Weird forced flow, consider changing the slider shapes woof
45. 03:45:216 (5,1) - ^ woof
46. 03:50:561 (1,2,3,4,5) - DS piano
47. 03:57:988 (2,5) - Stack properly k
48. 04:04:820 (1,2,1) - DS woof
49. 04:18:483 (4,5,1) - Very sudden interpretation of the rhythm here that differs with the rest of the map. Consider changing this to just sliders u sure? i think I've done it before
    
    That's all from me. I made a very vague mod just so I don't mess too much with mapper's intention. Quick notes about the DS and Intersecting sliders. What I feel is that for such a slow map, it requires a relatively consistent DS, which will make the player understand how to play the map better. As this map has a low star rating, it is important that it is kept relatively simple to understand, like how Easys and Normals are completely DSd. The intersecting sliders I feel are just a nazi thing, but they are pretty important since they can result in increased reading difficulty of the map. The whole point of an easy map like this is for players to play it relatively relaxed, so the intersections aren't very suitable. Although this is just one diff, it isn't an Extreme/Extra diff, so the DS consistency and not having intersecting sliders is pretty important. I would probably understand this map more if it weren't so slow and so easy.

Short, nazi mod, sorry if I was being too critical ><

Good luck~

ByBy_ChAn wrote:

Here's my mod

asdf - nazi or suggestion
asdf - unrankable issue

General

1. Hmm.. Why you not set HP to 6 , CS to 4 and AR to 8 ? Is a marathon and it should be a little harder because the star looks ''N'' instead ''H'' marathon doesn't mean difficulty, and the star rating doesn't really matter. in any case, this is a hard diff
2. The offset fits better on 657 because there the wind starts beating this mean that starts the song . Also , after moving the offset , you should resnap all objects offset is fine
3. Can you use a silenced hitsound for the last spinner ? Because it's too louder there is a calm downbeat at the end of the song nah, 5% is fine as is

Miracle

1. 00:09:869()- Why you not place a note ? You can because you will follow the vocal and the piano much better then before I could, but I want to keep it smooth at least in the beginning of the map; I might add if more people say so
2. 00:14:919(1)- imo place it to x:213 y:239 for a better cursor movement and for a better flow It's an interesting idea, but not sure. I'll think about it
3. 00:16:701(1)- Check space . Is a little far from previous object this is intended
4. 00:19:374()- Add a note for vocal and piano . It will sound much better :3 same as previous situation
5. 00:40:464(1)- Move the last gap to x:29 y:131 to make it curve like (3)- to improve the flow better not the exact values but Estellia- mentioned that previously too so fixed
6. 00:47:889(2)- Here a 1/1 slider don't work good with vocal and piano . Instead delete the slider and put a note on 00:48:186()- and then another note on 00:48:483()- to catch the piano and the vocal nah this is fine
7. 00:51:558(3)- Can you move the middle gap to x:77 y:216 ? For me this slider looks unnestetic imo i likey <3
8. 01:08:979(3,4)- A 1/2 slider and a 1/4 slider don't work with the downbeat . Maybe put at that 1/2 slider 1 reverse and replace that 1/4 slider with a note . It will sounds great :3 i prefer as it is now
9. 01:58:880(3)- Maybe ctrl+g for a better flow this works fine
10. 02:18:186(4)- Maybe you should delete the note because there's downbeat and that note don't fit the downbeat well this note is fine
11. 03:11:355(1)- It will be a good choice if you move the last gap to x:347 y:264 to curve the slider a little bit and then move that 1/2 slider to x:349 y:346 for a blanket with previous slider . It will improve the cursor movement and the flow I guess :3 this is fine as well ><
12. 03:45:216(5)- Why you not snap this slider to 1/2 ? It will fit better the downbeat vocals
13. 04:55:909(2)- Instead to put a 1/4 slider , why you not replace it with 2 notes to fit the downbeat ? i like the slider better
14. 04:57:097(3)- Maybe add NC because new vocals ? I'm not sure 0-0 right, thanks ww

That's all from me ! Good map ! Have my stars ! o/

Good Luck on approval !

Pho wrote:

Why did I google this

Pho wrote:

Why did I google this

Xinely wrote:

metadata confirmation http://kanataro.com/disco_detail/other_ost_saya.html

Yuzu- wrote:

FUCKING KANJI IM NOT JAPANESE

Yuzu- wrote:

I am gonna slap musume if this goes rip again

Yuzu- wrote:

I am gonna slap someone if this goes rip again

Yuzu- wrote:

I am gonna slap someone if this goes rip again

1. 02:41:652 (1,2,3,1) -
2. 02:45:216 (1,2,1,2) -
3. 02:48:781 (1,1,1,2,3,1) -
4. 03:05:415 (1,2,3,1) -
5. 03:54:127 (1,2,3,1) -
6. 04:17:889 (1,2,3,4,1) -
7. 04:36:899 (1,2,3,1) -
8. 04:41:652 (1,2,3,1) -

1. 00:23:831 (1) -
2. 02:44:028 (1) -
3. 02:45:216 (1) -
4. 03:06:008 (3) -
5. 03:46:033 (1) -
6. 03:54:721 (3) -
7. 03:56:503 (1) -
8. 04:37:492 (3) -
9. 04:39:275 (1) -
10. 04:42:246 (3) -
11. 04:44:028 (1) -

1. 01:29:177 (1) - has its tail nearly silenced when there's an audible sound. Why? The correct placement is this: http://puu.sh/fBcCZ/acb2b92716.jpg

Giralda wrote:

I'm gonna break my laptop if this goes rip again

ByBy_ChAn wrote:

Yuzu- wrote:

I am gonna slap someone if this goes rip again

I am gonna kill someone if this goes rip again

TicClick wrote:

I have to return it back to WiP due to poor use of antijumps that make spacing changes barely readable, if not unreadable at all:

1. 02:41:652 (1,2,3,1) -
2. 02:45:216 (1,2,1,2) -
3. 02:48:781 (1,1,1,2,3,1) -
4. 03:05:415 (1,2,3,1) -
5. 03:54:127 (1,2,3,1) -
6. 04:17:889 (1,2,3,4,1) -
7. 04:36:899 (1,2,3,1) -
8. 04:41:652 (1,2,3,1) -

An ideal option would be to remove all antijumps like 00:36:602 (2) at all and instead make something else that plays better and doesn't require maintaining attention on a high level all the time.

The following sliders end on literally nothing and should have their tails snapped appropriately (perhaps you wanted to snap them to 1/2):

1. 00:23:831 (1) -
2. 02:44:028 (1) -
3. 02:45:216 (1) -
4. 03:06:008 (3) -
5. 03:46:033 (1) -
6. 03:54:721 (3) -
7. 03:56:503 (1) -
8. 04:37:492 (3) -
9. 04:39:275 (1) -
10. 04:42:246 (3) -
11. 04:44:028 (1) -

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Random find:

1. 01:29:177 (1) - has its tail nearly silenced when there's an audible sound. Why? The correct placement is this: http://puu.sh/fBcCZ/acb2b92716.jpg

Yuzu- wrote:

TicClick wrote:

I have to return it back to WiP due to poor use of antijumps that make spacing changes barely readable, if not unreadable at all:

1. 02:41:652 (1,2,3,1) -
2. 02:45:216 (1,2,1,2) -
3. 02:48:781 (1,1,1,2,3,1) -
4. 03:05:415 (1,2,3,1) -
5. 03:54:127 (1,2,3,1) -
6. 04:17:889 (1,2,3,4,1) -
7. 04:36:899 (1,2,3,1) -
8. 04:41:652 (1,2,3,1) -

An ideal option would be to remove all antijumps like 00:36:602 (2) at all and instead make something else that plays better and doesn't require maintaining attention on a high level all the time.

The following sliders end on literally nothing and should have their tails snapped appropriately (perhaps you wanted to snap them to 1/2):

1. 00:23:831 (1) -
2. 02:44:028 (1) -
3. 02:45:216 (1) -
4. 03:06:008 (3) -
5. 03:46:033 (1) -
6. 03:54:721 (3) -
7. 03:56:503 (1) -
8. 04:37:492 (3) -
9. 04:39:275 (1) -
10. 04:42:246 (3) -
11. 04:44:028 (1) -

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Random find:

1. 01:29:177 (1) - has its tail nearly silenced when there's an audible sound. Why? The correct placement is this: http://puu.sh/fBcCZ/acb2b92716.jpg

This is bogus. The only thing I'd fix (which I will) is the last point and it's not something you should unrank this map for.

The antijumps are fine, it's not supposed to be a NORMAL diff and they are NOT unreadable; not one person I spectated playing this map failed to do them.

Regarding the sliders, since when is this something unrankable? All of my sliders that you pointed follow something; it's not the first time something like this is used, and no one - again - had issues with playing this.

I will fix your "random find" and nothing else. Users that have checked this map apparently didn't have one problem with it, so if you or anyone that might agree with you have an issue with my patterns then make sure it's not personal stuff and then return the heart.

@Nozhomi, fixed blankets.

Shiro wrote:

Yuzu- wrote:

This is bogus. The only thing I'd fix (which I will) is the last point and it's not something you should unrank this map for.

The antijumps are fine, it's not supposed to be a NORMAL diff and they are NOT unreadable; not one person I spectated playing this map failed to do them.

Regarding the sliders, since when is this something unrankable? All of my sliders that you pointed follow something; it's not the first time something like this is used, and no one - again - had issues with playing this.

I will fix your "random find" and nothing else. Users that have checked this map apparently didn't have one problem with it, so if you or anyone that might agree with you have an issue with my patterns then make sure it's not personal stuff and then return the heart.

@Nozhomi, fixed blankets.

Hello.

Your use of random spacing and needless antijumps because you are too lazy to come up with something that actually fits is bogus.
Your rhythms are mostly bogus and silencing sliders that end on a strong beat in the song is bogus.
Your comboing is bogus.
Your attitude as a mapper is bogus. If you're not going to fix them, then I can nuke this now and let it rot. What do you choose ? We're not going to waste our time trying to help you make this better if you're not even willing to admit it can be improved.

00:23:831 (1) - This ends on absolutely nothing and is bogus. This alone is unrankable.

The antijumps being readable and playable doesn't make them good. This could go through a lot of improvement, but if you believe you're better than that, then let me nuke this and work on another mapset.

Please contact me with your decision. I'll be waiting.

Ranking Criteria wrote:

...the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense...

1. 00:23:831 (1) -
2. 02:48:781 (1) -
3. 02:58:286 (3) -

Desperate-kun wrote:

Honestly, wtf...
For some reasons some of the lately disqualifies have so weird reasons I can't agree with, and I'm sure it's the same for other BNs. The question is how we are supposed to not make these mistakes again when we can't see the mistake...
Good luck with the requalify, Yuzu c:

1. Consider adding "The Song of Saya" to tags since it is the official title of the game's English localization (by JAST USA).
2. Move the preview point to 03:50:487? The current preview point makes the preview play, like, a few hundred miliseconds of an instrument that is kinda disturbing, and I'm pretty sure you didn't mean to do that.
3. 04:29:770 (4,1) - Uh, I don't know if you didn't intend to make a blanket here, but I think you should, to make them look neater. It's still possible even with the current positioning, so don't worry.
4. 04:57:097 (1,2) - Consider combining them into one 3/2 slider with a repeat. I know you're doing the current rhythm to follow the first syllable ending at 04:57:690, but the singer is still holding her voice to sing the second syllable, so connecting the sliders would be better.

Hinsvar wrote:

I'm ready to help get this back to track. I still have a few suggestions, though.

1. Consider adding "The Song of Saya" to tags since it is the official title of the game's English localization (by JAST USA). added the word song, since anything below 3 characters doesn't count anyway and I doubt people use "the" when searching lol
2. Move the preview point to 03:50:487? The current preview point makes the preview play, like, a few hundred miliseconds of an instrument that is kinda disturbing, and I'm pretty sure you didn't mean to do that. k
3. 04:29:770 (4,1) - Uh, I don't know if you didn't intend to make a blanket here, but I think you should, to make them look neater. It's still possible even with the current positioning, so don't worry. it was there how did it go away QAQ
4. 04:57:097 (1,2) - Consider combining them into one 3/2 slider with a repeat. I know you're doing the current rhythm to follow the first syllable ending at 04:57:690, but the singer is still holding her voice to sing the second syllable, so connecting the sliders would be better. k

No kudosu.

Poke me once you're done replying to these suggestions (no need to fix ofc).

ByBy_ChAn wrote:

Yuzu- wrote:

I am gonna slap someone if this goes rip again

I am gonna kill someone if this goes rip again

Okoratu wrote:

i hope no one else will get IS from this map
on that note gz

Regraz wrote:

re-re-gratz :3

xxdeathx wrote:

regraz