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AxE Shockwavq
Alright guys I have decided on the maps it will be in soon I can definitely say that rince the map u want will be in its part of being skilled cause everyone needs stream control it may be unconventional but it is a classic map and that is the reason. Other than that the map list will be updated layer today
AxE Shockwavq
Here are the For Sure Axe Cup maps
I will get permission from the higher up to divide the axe cup into two sections to balance out things so sit tight ;)


https://osu.ppy.sh/s/150739 -Foreground Eclipse -From Under Cover (Caught Up In A Love Song) [Insane]
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/32046 -Hastune Miku Hiatus (Insane)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/164155 - Omoi-Nee Williams (Extra)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/125553 -Krewella-Come and Get It (Insane)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/158932 -sweet ARMS- Trust in You (Insane)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/107647 -DJ YOSHITAKA feat. Hoshino Kanako - MAX LOVE (Another)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/52203 -Rungran - d.m.c (Band Ver.)(Insane)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/160145 -Sagara Kokoro - Hoshizora no Ima (Extra)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/147962 -UPLIFT SPICE - Omega Rhythm(Extra)
ttps://osu.ppy.sh/s/189529 -wakaG - Yozora ni Saita Hana (Extra)
AxE Shockwavq
Here will be the Diluli Cup maps

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/290581 -Toyosaki Aki-Diamond(Insane)
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/93842 -DJ Fresh-Gold Dust (Insane)
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/342423 -Hanatan-Shiwa (Insane)
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/221950 -Sagara Kokoro-Hoshizora no Ima (Insane)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/74586 -DJ Genericname-Dear You (Dear Nemis) <----------(MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THIS VERSION PLEASE)-----<<
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/50771 -Kozato - 45nen no Yukizakura(Another)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/87170 -Touhou Ichigo-Kouria (Insane)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/219728 -Orangestar Asu no Yozora Shoukaihan (Insane)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/59025 -Yousei Teikoku-Kyouki Chindren (Insanity)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/61401 -Aoi Eir -Innocence (Insane)
AxE Shockwavq
The Tiebreaker maps will be listed below
I tried to pick long maps that can demonstrate skill across a long period of time please notify me if i am too harsh on the map choices

Diluli cup - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/89912 Let This go (Gone)

AxE Cup 3001-4999pp -https://osu.ppy.sh/s/36988 -YAMAGEN'S DEVILELIET - EYES OF DEVILELIET (PERNICOUS)

AxE Cup 5000-6000+ -https://osu.ppy.sh/s/20949 -Demetori - Wind God Girl (Extra)
-Haunted-
hey guys did i not make it in time to be registered in the cup? because its either you missed me or im not in the Diluli cup.
AxE Shockwavq
The Front page has been updated also i have addedd u Haunted so good luck i also have remove the gravis cup and revamped it so all those in that cup will play the Diluli cup and the people in the 2000-3000 range have been put in the Revamped Gravis cup hope u guys enjoy the maps that i have selected for the tourny and also tiebreakers have been put in


Good luck to all
Kusei
Name: KuseiPro12
Pp: 2558
Profile: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/KuseiPro12
Sophia
Removing my application, this is getting too confusing and not well organized.
Graphite Edge
Which mod will be played on each map or mappool of axe cup is nomod only? Maybe i miss something on the rules, if not nvm then :p
AxE Shockwavq
yea no mod alos ive accept u KuseiPro12


on a side note here is a rundown on what happened: Someone who was picking the maps had no idea what pp was and pick easy as crap maps that i had to revamp since they were too easy and after that i had to split cups from realizing that someone didnt organize it too well with the skill range (so like 4k player are going to be destroyed by the 1k players). so thats how the Revamped Gravis came to be and the Fixated cup. in other words some people didnt know how to organize and actually test how big pp range can affect skills. sorry if any of this confused anyone but just to let u know there is not going to be anymore change other than just accepting people. i want this to be good not like crappy song selection or biased matches to ruin the competion thats supposed to be in this cup.


(P.S im rooting for Wilchq on the Fixated cup always been a fan)
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Graphite Edge

AxE Shockwavq wrote:

yea no mod)
So it is a nomod tourney then, well i don't mind but is there a reason to make it like that (hard nomod maps mappol instead of owc/anti-beat like mappool)? i mean for the range of pp in the axe cup having various type of maps and mods to pick is more suitable imo.
Ichi
Name: Ichi
PP: 4411
link to profile: https://osu.ppy.sh/u/2916913
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AxE Rayden

Dm1321 wrote:

Removing my application, this is getting too confusing and not well organized.
Sad but okay no problem
Topic Starter
AxE Rayden

AxE Rayden wrote:

Dm1321 wrote:

Removing my application, this is getting too confusing and not well organized.
Sad but okay no problem
If any feels that they are able to run this better. Then cave fully supports you showing us how. We do not mind this process and will only but support for the prizes. If you feel you are better skilled then please contact me in a private message
Estaryo
So, if I'm right then the Diluli Cup now is 1.000-2.000pp
And the Diluli Revamped is 2.000-3.000pp

If I'm looking at the Maps, thinking about an example of an participant with 1.500pp
looking at the leaderboard, most of their topranks are hardmaps, are you sure they can even pass the insane maps of the mappool?

The Matches, do you prefer to take maps the players are able to fc or maps that are challenging to pass?
Vuelo Eluko
im about to be in the axe cup just gimme another day or 2
AxE Shockwavq
Dont worry i have gotten some friends from each respective cup and let them play they said it was fine
Fragmented
Thanks Axe Rayden :D
Vuelo Eluko

Estaryo wrote:

The Matches, do you prefer to take maps the players are able to fc or maps that are challenging to pass?
Ideally the maps would be at the point where they are neither easy to fc or hard to pass. Something where a miss or 2 wouldnt be surprising, and an FC would be moderately impressive in a multiplayer.
My Aim Zogs
tryaway

AxE Shockwavq wrote:

The Tiebreaker maps will be listed below
I tried to pick long maps that can demonstrate skill across a long period of time please notify me if i am too harsh on the map choices

Diluli cup - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/89912 Let This go (Gone)

AxE Cup 3001-4999pp -https://osu.ppy.sh/s/36988 -YAMAGEN'S DEVILELIET - EYES OF DEVILELIET (PERNICOUS)

AxE Cup 5000-6000+ -https://osu.ppy.sh/s/20949 -Demetori - Wind God Girl (Extra)
Tiebreakers are almost the same difficulty as maps in mappool at each respectivitely cup.
So either tiebreaker needs to be harder or mappool has to be made easier.
I don't have problems regarding the mappools though, its hard but also challenging.
Keksbla
Still going to point out that people are missing on the list, who already got accpeted for the tournament. Such as Yoshli, Veth and me
Londonne
"ttps://osu.ppy.sh/s/189529 -wakaG - Yozora ni Saita Hana (Extra)"
last link in the AxE cup is missing the H in https just saying
Raiku
Jintai
AxE Shockwavq
Thanks Keksbla for reminding me it will have those people there and thanks everyone for your opinion
Minhtam
Diluli cup is 1000-1999 PP and you assign maps that aren't passable by those players? Please, once again, terrible mappool selection.
AxE Shockwavq
This is the last time i change maps cause in tournaments are not supposed to be easy. it is a completion to see who is the best not let see who can pick up a map on the day of the tournament and see who can FC it. im sorry if u didnt mean it like that but this is how it supposed to be. The maps in that cup has been changed to low 4.0s but that is the last time i change any maps cause it all about how u work to a map. so please if anyone has constructive responses please tell me cause i cannot just keep replacing maps that is not how its supposed to work it will hold us back from continuing the tourny
Vuelo Eluko
lemme get up in dat axe cup 8-)
Minhtam

AxE Shockwavq wrote:

This is the last time i change maps cause in tournaments are not supposed to be easy. it is a completion to see who is the best not let see who can pick up a map on the day of the tournament and see who can FC it. im sorry if u didnt mean it like that but this is how it supposed to be. The maps in that cup has been changed to low 4.0s but that is the last time i change any maps cause it all about how u work to a map. so please if anyone has constructive responses please tell me cause i cannot just keep replacing maps that is not how its supposed to work it will hold us back from continuing the tourny
I agree with your sentiment that tournaments are not supposed to be easy, but players should at least be capable enough to pass all maps in question. For a 1000 PP player, a 4.95* map is completely out of his range, which is total overkill. I would even argue that 4.95* is out of passable range for a 1999 player as well. Do you really want a tournament where two players fail maps, especially in a format where ALL maps need to be played? The point is to showcase players that have the skills, not lackthereof.
Crowve

minhtam1638 wrote:

AxE Shockwavq wrote:

This is the last time i change maps cause in tournaments are not supposed to be easy. it is a completion to see who is the best not let see who can pick up a map on the day of the tournament and see who can FC it. im sorry if u didnt mean it like that but this is how it supposed to be. The maps in that cup has been changed to low 4.0s but that is the last time i change any maps cause it all about how u work to a map. so please if anyone has constructive responses please tell me cause i cannot just keep replacing maps that is not how its supposed to work it will hold us back from continuing the tourny
I agree with your sentiment that tournaments are not supposed to be easy, but players should at least be capable enough to pass all maps in question. For a 1000 PP player, a 4.95* map is completely out of his range, which is total overkill. I would even argue that 4.95* is out of passable range for a 1999 player as well. Do you really want a tournament where two players fail maps, especially in a format where ALL maps need to be played? The point is to showcase players that have the skills, not lackthereof.
Not passable for 1,9k pp players ? I mostly have A's and S's on this and im only 1,5k pp .
Londonne

thewagner wrote:

minhtam1638 wrote:

I agree with your sentiment that tournaments are not supposed to be easy, but players should at least be capable enough to pass all maps in question. For a 1000 PP player, a 4.95* map is completely out of his range, which is total overkill. I would even argue that 4.95* is out of passable range for a 1999 player as well. Do you really want a tournament where two players fail maps, especially in a format where ALL maps need to be played? The point is to showcase players that have the skills, not lackthereof.
Not passable for 1,9k pp players ? I mostly have A's and S's on this and im only 1,5k pp .
Min has over 1000 SSs so he must have some sort of experience and i do recall having decent scores on some of the songs at that rank as well. so i dont really know what hes talking about
Vuelo Eluko
i remember 4.95 stars being really quite difficult at 1500pp if my milestone date for it is accurate. definitely passable but also out of my comfort zone. That said its probably a bit too hard for 1000-1999 cup, id probably stay around 4.2-4.4 stars for that range, being passable shouldnt be the goal, being comfortably passable should be...
AxE Shockwavq
Its resolved now so lets not argue about it and lets prepare for the tournament okay please ;)
Crowve

AxE Shockwavq wrote:

Its resolved now so lets not argue about it and lets prepare for the tournament okay please ;)
Yea :) But the maps were better before ;P.
Minhtam

thewagner wrote:

minhtam1638 wrote:

I agree with your sentiment that tournaments are not supposed to be easy, but players should at least be capable enough to pass all maps in question. For a 1000 PP player, a 4.95* map is completely out of his range, which is total overkill. I would even argue that 4.95* is out of passable range for a 1999 player as well. Do you really want a tournament where two players fail maps, especially in a format where ALL maps need to be played? The point is to showcase players that have the skills, not lackthereof.
Not passable for 1,9k pp players ? I mostly have A's and S's on this and im only 1,5k pp .
I can believe B's, but if you had S's on songs that are worth 4.5* - 5*, you should have pp scores of more than 100pp. Which should also imply that you have the potential to have over 2000 pp and are thus in the wrong cup. That's why I made the case that 4.95* is too high for the 1000pp to 1999pp bracket.

Now, 4.5*, I can't ever claim that those are not passable by 1000pp-1999pp players when I myself passed Caramel Heaven [Nyquill's Insane] in a multiplayer setting. However, I have yet to pass a song above 4.75*, and I know how much I struggled with 5* and up.
Comcast
Comcast
pp: 1.858
profile: https://osu.ppy.sh/u/comcast
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[ Piyori ]
pp: 3293
profile: https://osu.ppy.sh/u/4457608
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AxE Rayden

minhtam1638 wrote:

Diluli cup is 1000-1999 PP and you assign maps that aren't passable by those players? Please, once again, terrible mappool selection.
Minhat If the above statement is true then Why have i passed most with A or S???? I must be a special case then
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