supercell - Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari · forum

SoGa

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

SoGa 2015-01-25T15:38:22+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on lunes, 06 de julio de 2015 at 6:57:00 a. m.

Artist: supercell
Title: Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari
Source: 化物語
Tags: Bakemonogatari Senjougahara hitagi senjou gahara The story you don't know Moecho IamKwan Kwan Mei ryo nagi yanaginagi
BPM: 165
Filesize: 3343kb
Play Time: 01:38
Difficulties Available:

Easy (1.53 stars, 104 notes)
Insane (4.35 stars, 331 notes)
KwaN's Normal (1.89 stars, 156 notes)
Mei's Hard (3.18 stars, 226 notes)
Moecho's Monogatari (4.68 stars, 354 notes)

Download: supercell - Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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DIFFs:

Easy By SoGa
Normal By IamKwaN Done KwaN's Original Normal
Hard By Mei
Insane By SoGa
Monogatari By Moecho

All finish ,ready to go !
3rd Ranked Map!
——————————————————
Kimi No Shiranai Monogatari
君の知らない物语 ——Supercell (Nagi)

いつもどおりのある日（ひ）の事（こと）
君（きみ）は突然（とつぜん）立（た）ち上（あ）がり言（い）った
「今夜（こんや）星（ほし）を见（み）に行（ゆ）こう」

「たまには良（い）いこと言（い）うんだね」
なんてみんなして言（い）って笑（わら）った
明（あ）かりもない道（みち）を
バカみたいにはしゃいで歩（ある）いた
抱（かか）え込（こ）んだ孤独（こどく）や不安（ふあん）に
押（お）しつぶされないように
真（ま）っ暗（くら）な世界（せかい）から见上（みあ）げた
夜空（よぞら）は星（ほし）が降（ふ）るようで
いつからだろう君（きみ）の事（こと）を
追（お）いかける私（わたし）がいた
どうかお愿（ねが）い
惊（おどろ）かないで闻（き）いてよ
私（わたし）のこの想（おも）いを

Last edited by SoGa 2015-07-07T14:18:24+00:00, edited 50 times in total.

Kuuhaku

104 posts

Joined October 2011

Kuuhaku 2015-01-26T02:47:49+00:00

沙发

Moecho

267 posts

Joined October 2014

Moecho 2015-02-02T22:20:32+00:00

IRC with mapper, we talked about some issues and suggestions for the whole mapset.

IRC:

2015-01-25 23:32 SoGa: 如果要cut的话你帮我把，我不会cut
2015-01-25 23:32 SoGa: cut了 毁音频
2015-01-25 23:33 Moecho: 你是用什麼cut
2015-01-25 23:33 SoGa: 不知道
2015-01-25 23:39 SoGa: 如果你要cut的话，我就得修改男杜拉克
2015-01-25 23:39 SoGa: 修改难度了
2015-01-25 23:39 Moecho: 為什麼
2015-01-25 23:39 SoGa: 因为现在的这个排版
2015-01-25 23:39 SoGa: 前面有点几把
2015-01-25 23:40 SoGa: 并且你要cut的话我后面就不用map啦
2015-01-25 23:42 SoGa: 算了，干脆俩个都做
2015-01-25 23:44 Moecho: 嗯
2015-01-25 23:44 Moecho: 不用啦
2015-01-25 23:44 Moecho: 你就改一下後面就行啦
2015-01-25 23:44 SoGa: cut 就拜托你啦 ><
2015-01-25 23:44 Moecho: 你是用什麼cut的
2015-01-25 23:44 SoGa: 不知道
2015-01-25 23:44 Moecho: 質量下降
2015-01-25 23:44 Moecho: 我用audacity
2015-01-25 23:44 SoGa: 我重装了没软件啊
2015-01-25 23:45 SoGa: 哦
2015-01-25 23:45 Moecho: audacity質量應該不會下降
2015-01-25 23:45 SoGa: cut cut cut cut
2015-01-25 23:45 SoGa: timing 和 offset你也搞好把，顺便
2015-01-25 23:45 SoGa: 没变是最好 ovo
2015-01-26 00:04 Moecho: 那我去剪咯
2015-01-26 00:04 Moecho: offset要再調過
2015-01-26 00:04 Moecho: 找01吧
2015-01-26 00:05 SoGa: 嗯
2015-01-26 00:05 SoGa: cut了再看看吧
2015-01-26 00:06 Moecho: 那我剪到1.41咯？
2015-01-26 00:06 SoGa: 噢
2015-01-26 00:06 SoGa: 不知道你
2015-01-26 00:07 Moecho: 就是第一個kiai后就美麗
2015-01-26 00:08 Moecho: 我在QQ發
2015-01-26 00:11 SoGa: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/615103 supercell - Kimi no Shira nai Monogatari [物语]]
2015-01-26 06:54 Moecho: 好了嗎
2015-01-26 06:54 SoGa: 不懂做ez
2015-01-26 06:54 SoGa: 好痛苦
2015-01-26 06:54 Moecho: 你在用cut版？
2015-01-26 06:54 Moecho: 不一定要做easy的啊
2015-01-26 06:55 SoGa: 嗯
2015-01-26 06:55 Moecho: 只要Normal在1.99星就行啦
2015-01-26 06:55 SoGa: hard没人做
2015-01-26 06:55 Moecho: 上傳的時候叫我啊
2015-01-26 06:56 SoGa: 上了
2015-01-26 06:56 Moecho: 哦 那我下載咯
2015-01-26 06:56 SoGa: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/615141 supercell - Kimi No Shiranai Monogatari]
2015-01-26 07:01 SoGa: 你能顺便看看我的hs吗
2015-01-26 07:01 SoGa: 感觉有点叼
2015-01-26 07:01 SoGa: 部队
2015-01-26 07:01 SoGa: 是垃圾
2015-01-26 07:01 Moecho: hs?
2015-01-26 07:01 SoGa: hitsound
2015-01-26 07:01 Moecho: oo
2015-01-26 07:02 Moecho: offset不對
2015-01-26 07:02 Moecho: 聽起來好怪
2015-01-26 07:02 Moecho: 233
2015-01-26 07:03 SoGa: offset骏喵给我的啊
2015-01-26 07:03 SoGa: >>
2015-01-26 07:04 Moecho: 試下730
2015-01-26 07:06 SoGa: 额
2015-01-26 07:06 SoGa: 虽然hen垃圾
2015-01-26 07:06 Moecho: offset目前絕對是錯的
2015-01-26 07:06 Moecho: 太晚了
2015-01-26 07:06 Moecho: 你開25%
2015-01-26 07:06 Moecho: 或50%
2015-01-26 07:07 Moecho: 仔細看縮圈
2015-01-26 07:07 SoGa: 我不懂那个啦
2015-01-26 07:07 Moecho: 建議在kiai看
2015-01-26 07:07 SoGa: 我就只知道 单点的时候有点奇怪
2015-01-26 07:07 SoGa: 233
2015-01-26 07:07 Moecho: 01:36:851
2015-01-26 07:07 Moecho: 其實
2015-01-26 07:07 Moecho: 這裡
2015-01-26 07:08 Moecho: 可以直接搞個轉盤
2015-01-26 07:09 SoGa: 是吗
2015-01-26 07:09 SoGa: ._.
2015-01-26 07:09 Moecho: 01:37:851長度可以到這裡
2015-01-26 07:09 Moecho: 或者
2015-01-26 07:09 Moecho: 01:38:215
2015-01-26 07:09 Moecho: 嗯
2015-01-26 07:09 Moecho: 不然後面怪怪的
2015-01-26 07:09 SoGa: 好
2015-01-26 07:11 Moecho: 話說
2015-01-26 07:11 Moecho: 我幫你搞一下metadata
2015-01-26 07:11 Moecho: source里寫化物語
2015-01-26 07:11 Moecho: 然後在tag里寫bakemonogatari
2015-01-26 07:11 SoGa: Upload！
2015-01-26 07:11 Moecho: 記得改後不要退出，直接更新
2015-01-26 07:11 SoGa: 这个知道
2015-01-26 07:12 SoGa: 我今天被这个东西弄傻le
2015-01-26 07:12 Moecho: 君の知らない物語
2015-01-26 07:12 Moecho: 是日文名字
2015-01-26 07:12 Moecho: 我在QQ和你說吧

Last edited by Moecho 2015-02-06T18:50:08+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2015-02-06T17:22:10+00:00

Moecho wrote:
IRC with mapper, we talked about some issues and suggestions for the whole mapset.

Where is the log?

http://puu.sh/fypDn.rar
offset way too early +10 please

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2015-02-08T17:05:38+00:00

poi

mrturtle99

191 posts

Joined April 2014

mrturtle99 2015-02-09T01:14:37+00:00

Hey, so you requested a mod from my queue, but I didn't find anything wrong in this map. So uh, have a star

Konge

238 posts

Joined November 2012

Konge 2015-02-10T07:07:46+00:00

request from qq群
真挑不出啥毛病
[General]

我感觉可以把mp3截一下,让音乐在最后一个Note戛然而止，现在这感觉就像完整版没做完(汗
最高难度AR9.1比较好吧,还让不让人DT了
音效只用soft好吗?有点太轻了吧(我觉得骏喵那套音效很不错)

[Moecho's Monogatari]

1%的音效改变人很难分清的...
00:10:558 (6) - 这个往上翻试试
00:23:103 (1,2) - 这俩用drum-finish?
00:29:649 (8) - clap
00:29:830 (1) - 这里可以加个比较弱的finish,还有这之后的一段一点音效都没有,起码加点soft whistle啊(如果确定不用Normal组的话可以无视)
00:51:285 (4) - Ctrl+G 为啥只有这个是同向...
01:36:740 (1) - 建议删掉,然后转盘提到01:36:558 -(人声是这里开始的)

[Insane]

安静段的clap太吵了啊
00:35:649 (1) - Blanket再好一点
00:40:012 (1,2) - 多折返一次,再离近些
00:41:921 (3) - 删
00:53:649 (2,3,4,5,6) - 排规整点
00:58:921 (1,2,3) - 要互相垂直
01:04:376 (4) - Ctrl+G
01:04:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - 不规整,DS调下
01:05:376 (1,2) - 很坑,好几次都断这里了
01:06:558 (1,1,2,3) - 不好打
01:29:467 (1) - 像2,3一样弄成直的
01:31:285 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 首先这个图案不是正六边形,其次后面每一组跳都可以拉大间距,因为音乐在变高昂
01:35:830 (2,3,4) - 这个antijump加个NC比较容易看清

EN不会摸,美丽;_;
顺便求mu求看图http://osu.ppy.sh/s/251239;_;

Moecho

267 posts

Joined October 2014

Moecho 2015-02-10T19:03:12+00:00

Kagamine Ren wrote:
poi

Nanodesupoi!

Mikagura Seisa

162 posts

Joined October 2012

Mikagura Seisa 2015-02-11T10:16:41+00:00

from mod queue
[General]
Hard呢？没有hard这图难度过于不均匀.
[Easy]
Easy 上限是1.5星

因为normal只有1.89 easy建议1.3左右.

所以

1.简化节奏

2.滑条用0.8x0.9

3.大部分滑条和点的关联性不强建议注意flow和blanket

[Normal]
N不建议cs ar od全用小数

建议全程滑条不变速

00:25:467 (3) - 00:25:830 - 这里鼓声太明显建议不要放在滑条中间折返下在这里可以最后补一个点

00:35:649 (1,2,1) - 这三个应该有整体性调整距离和形状使这一块整体ctrl-j不变，或者至少后面的1头尾x值一致

kiai不错

[Insane]
00:12:376 (1) - 既然前面都是两下，这个建议unstuck

00:12:921 (2,3,4) - 不美观.4:(96,88)

00:17:103 (2,4) - 这俩whistle太瞎了。。

00:29:285 (5,6,7) - 这跳毫无依据并且不好看，5:(144,184) 6:(332,204) 7:(216,144) 稍微往下移一点之后的123

00:37:103 (1,3) - 两个弧度没blanket上

00:47:285 (1,3) - 叠好

00:53:649 (2,3,4,5,6) - ._.ctrl+shift+d

00:54:557 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^

00:56:740 (3,3) - 叠好

01:02:194 (2,3,4) - whistle真的这么好听么= =

01:03:649 (2,3,4) - ^

01:04:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - 直线请摆直...弯的就摆的更弯点不会摆连打就用滑条生成

01:07:558 (2) - P:1.75x N:0.76x

注意细节还有连打的摆放这首歌whistle不合适我不知道你是不是用的自己的音效...

[Monogatari]
00:25:467 (1,2,3) - 1:(80,272) 2:(0,336)如果不介意大改建议整体右移1和之前4的尾巴和3的头距离相等然后12和之前的3直线flow

其他没什么了..

gl

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2015-02-11T14:34:16+00:00

白送的摸我就只摸你的Insane了
[Insane]
00:17:103 (2) - 这图我觉得真的真的不适合哨子，哨子一般不作为装饰音效，是用来单独跟一条音轨的，比如你看看FD啊什么的
00:21:103 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 跳大一点，大胆一点
00:24:012 (1) - 这个滑条拉到后面红线，如果你觉得这样下不了clap，那就别下这个clap，顺便我觉得这个clap也是非常不适合这个图，为何不用GD里用的那些音效
00:29:467 (6) - 前面的跳的间距比较平均，这个就突然这么大，非常违和，我觉得还是把前面的跳也搞的大一点
00:32:740 (1) - 为何突然3/4滑条啊
00:48:012 (3) - 漏whistle
00:48:376 (4) - 漏clap
01:06:740 - 滑条建议从这里开始，配合这个重音
01:29:467 (1,2,3) - 用复制，弄平行，间距一样
01:31:285 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这跳也太小了，担心星数上去的话就少弄点跳，既然弄跳就弄的爽一点
01:36:740 (6) - NC

细心一点搞一下细节，nazi mod 我就不写了

Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2015-02-13T11:17:19+00:00

from wkyik's Mod Queue~

[General]

有沒有結尾好點的mp3啊我記得有tv size版本
BG現在是1365x768 改成1366x768?

[Moecho's Monogatari]

00:29:830 - ~00:41:285 - 可以考慮加點whistle 現在有點空
01:17:830 (1) - 這個可以跟01:17:103 (1) - 一樣加速梗
01:21:467 - 加個circle在 x64 y139, 突然空出一個不太好
01:23:467 (7,1) - 之間距離覺得有點小 1的頭也許可以放低點

[Insane]

00:05:830 (3) - 尾whistle
00:08:740 (1) - 這個打的時候有點怪換成1/1長度再跟前面3個滑條對成一個漸漸加速的梗
00:21:649 (4,3) - finish
00:29:103 (4) - whistle換成finish
00:39:467 (4) - 換成一個折返一次的1/2 slider
00:55:649 (7) - 紅線就能停了藍線沒音
01:03:649 (2) - ctrl+g? flow好點'
01:07:376 - 這裡的音有點奇怪
01:13:103 (5) - ctrl+g, 這裡有點角度的小跳比均速的移動好玩
01:14:921 (1) - 尾whistle
01:21:830 (4) - 頭clap
01:24:558 - clap

[Mei's Hard]

這個diff很多東西跟其他DIFF不相同詳看AImod
另外有幾個unsnap 也是看aimod
00:14:548 - whistle

[Kwan's Normal]

00:07:285 (2) - 頭whistle
00:08:012 (3) - whistle
01:12:740 (5,6) - 這裡我覺得跟得不太好
SPOILER

其餘難度明天繼續摸

Lyric

293 posts

Joined September 2013

Lyric 2015-02-13T15:40:41+00:00

[General]
——
[Easy]
00:30:194 (1) - 这个Slider的开头应该是00:29:830，（尾巴的时间不要动，也就是说要延长这个Slider）。
[KwaN's Normal]
00:32:376 (6) - 这个Note（在时间上）应该位于00:32:558。
00:39:649 (3) - 这个Slider中间的音应该有。
[Mei's Hard]
AIMod里面可以发现此难度文件的问题。
[Insane]
00:02:921 (2) - 这个Slider怎么想也应该从00:02:740开始啊，位置自调。
00:03:467 - 00:06:194 - 这段时间内，节奏应该是 http://puu.sh/fRBZT/86a51d29e2.png ，否则就过度单调了。
00:32:740 (1) - 尾巴长了，在这没必要用ExtendedSlider。
00:39:467 (4) - 这儿的音不该漏，改成折返Slider。
00:40:012 (1) - 上面一条如果改了的话，就把这个折返Slider改成一个短Slider加一个单点。
00:41:921 (3) - 多余的一个Note。
00:44:467 (2) - ^
01:04:376 (4) - 这个……还是按着规律向上为好。
[Moecho's Monogatari]
没有发现问题。

TtmnZk

Elite Mapper

597 posts

Joined March 2013

TtmnZk 2015-02-13T17:23:34+00:00

Hi !

[Esay]

od=ar了。建议ar+1

00:46:012 这样好看点 http://puu.sh/fRg6T/644c1c02c6.png

01:30:558 (5,1) - 01:36:194 (2,1) - 会不会太近了？

[KwaN's Normal]

01:36:740 (1,1) - 近了

fine

~~其实我是来学习的~~

[Mei's Hard]

remove widescreen support

fine too,

[Insane]

00:02:921 (2) - 这里跟前一样对称好点吧，要不跟后面DS略近，打起来不是很舒服

00:04:740 (3,1,2) - 不妨DS拉大一点？

00:07:285 (1,1) - 各自ctrl+g，in放开点打起来好,1/1没必要那么近

00:10:558 (4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 为什么不摆正五边啊11111

00:12:376 (1,2) - 这跟后面是一样的节奏 DS却不同 00:16:012 (3,4) -

00:22:740 (1,2,3) - 好远;w;

00:29:649 (7) - 214.154

00:41:830 (2,3,4) - 这样踩不到重音，不建议 01:09:830 (4,5,6) -

00:53:649 (2,3,4,5,6) -正五边形plz...

00:54:557 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -正六边形plz...

01:04:376 (4) - 这里怎么想都应该ctrl+G 好点

01:13:103 (5) - ctrl+G

[Moecho's Monogatari]

awsome diff!

没了祝早日起飞111

Moecho

267 posts

Joined October 2014

Moecho 2015-02-13T20:55:14+00:00

23konG wrote:
request from qq群
真挑不出啥毛病
[General]
我感觉可以把mp3截一下,让音乐在最后一个Note戛然而止，现在这感觉就像完整版没做完(汗我覺得沒什麼問題吧.. 可以參照一個叫Univer Page的，那個于rank TV size版差不多一樣長，但是是full版cut的
最高难度AR9.1比较好吧,还让不让人DT了我沒想過讓人DT，DT4.7的本來就不是人（
音效只用soft好吗?有点太轻了吧(我觉得骏喵那套音效很不错)目前音效挺好的啊...
[Moecho's Monogatari]
1%的音效改变人很难分清的... 我覺得這個沒事的吧...
00:10:558 (6) - 这个往上翻试试不用
00:23:103 (1,2) - 这俩用drum-finish? 其實我聽不出有很麼區別，但是好吧
00:29:649 (8) - clap ok
00:29:830 (1) - 这里可以加个比较弱的finish,还有这之后的一段一点音效都没有,起码加点soft whistle啊(如果确定不用Normal组的话可以无视) 根據音樂的變化，這裡我覺得不必加多音效
00:51:285 (4) - Ctrl+G 为啥只有这个是同向... 不知道啊改了
01:36:740 (1) - 建议删掉,然后转盘提到01:36:558 -(人声是这里开始的) 我沒跟人聲啊...

MoleAkarin wrote:
from mod queue

[Monogatari]
00:25:467 (1,2,3) - 1:(80,272) 2:(0,336)如果不介意大改建议整体右移1和之前4的尾巴和3的头距离相等然后12和之前的3直线flow 看不懂 OTL

其他没什么了..

gl

Kawaiwkyik wrote:
from wkyik's Mod Queue~

[Moecho's Monogatari]
00:29:830 - ~00:41:285 - 可以考慮加點whistle 現在有點空 ok
01:17:830 (1) - 這個可以跟01:17:103 (1) - 一樣加速梗 ok
01:21:467 - 加個circle在 x64 y139, 突然空出一個不太好 ok
01:23:467 (7,1) - 之間距離覺得有點小 1的頭也許可以放低點我那里是想開始冷靜一點下來因為下一段直接0.8x
其餘難度明天繼續摸

scooderic wrote:
[Moecho's Monogatari]
没有发现问题。:3

TT Mouse wrote:
Hi !

[Esay]

[Moecho's Monogatari]

awsome diff! thanks :3
没了祝早日起飞111

謝謝摸圖！

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Tags:Bakemonogatari Senjougahara hitagi senjou gahara The story you don't know Moecho IamKwan Kwan Mei ryo nagi yanaginagi
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alacat

osu! Alumni

3,872 posts

Joined May 2011

alacat 2015-02-14T15:42:04+00:00

as request about metadata

Title : 君の知らない物語 -TV Edit-
Romanised Title : Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari -TV Edit-

official website : http://www.bakemonogatari.com/music/index.html#music02

Additional Modding :

Background image:
It should be 1366x768 size for 16:9 (1 pixel lol)

Hard :
Please check tags/preview time/timing. You should unify them same as other diffs.
00:50:547 (2) - Unsnapped
01:04:365 (3) - ^

Good luck ~

btw I love this anime

My name is from "Tsubasa cat" haha

SoGa

236 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

SoGa 2015-02-15T05:31:10+00:00

23konG

23konG wrote:
request from qq群
真挑不出啥毛病
[General]
我感觉可以把mp3截一下,让音乐在最后一个Note戛然而止，现在这感觉就像完整版没做完(汗
最高难度AR9.1比较好吧,还让不让人DT了
音效只用soft好吗?有点太轻了吧(我觉得骏喵那套音效很不错)
大丈夫

[Insane]
安静段的clap太吵了啊会吗
00:35:649 (1) - Blanket再好一点好
00:40:012 (1,2) - 多折返一次,再离近些这个我没折返多次而是选择了添加一个note
00:41:921 (3) - 删不删
00:53:649 (2,3,4,5,6) - 排规整点没问题
00:58:921 (1,2,3) - 要互相垂直没明白
01:04:376 (4) - Ctrl+G 没必要，我觉得这样前后flow都更好
01:04:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - 不规整,DS调下还好
01:05:376 (1,2) - 很坑,好几次都断这里了得继续提升打图能力
01:06:558 (1,1,2,3) - 不好打没问题
01:29:467 (1) - 像2,3一样弄成直的好的
01:31:285 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 首先这个图案不是正六边形,其次后面每一组跳都可以拉大间距,因为音乐在变高昂这个自己改了
01:35:830 (2,3,4) - 这个antijump加个NC比较容易看清后期考虑
EN不会摸,美丽;_;
顺便求mu求看图http://osu.ppy.sh/s/251239;_;

谢谢Mod

MoleAkarin

MoleAkarin wrote:
from mod queue
[General]
Hard呢？没有hard这图难度过于不均匀. 嗯，Mei完成交给我了
[Easy]
Easy 上限是1.5星 under 1.5星是 E标，没规矩说一定得在1.5以下

因为normal只有1.89 easy建议1.3左右. 没必要

所以

1.简化节奏

2.滑条用0.8x0.9

3.大部分滑条和点的关联性不强建议注意flow和blanket
谢意见

[Insane]
00:12:376 (1) - 既然前面都是两下，这个建议unstuck 这个暂时keep

00:12:921 (2,3,4) - 不美观.4:(96,88) 这个TTmouse 给我改了

00:17:103 (2,4) - 这俩whistle太瞎了。。 hm，后期看别人怎么说再改吧

00:29:285 (5,6,7) - 这跳毫无依据并且不好看，5:(144,184) 6:(332,204) 7:(216,144) 稍微往下移一点之后的123 随机跳还得有根据吗

00:37:103 (1,3) - 两个弧度没blanket上大丈夫

00:47:285 (1,3) - 叠好好的

00:53:649 (2,3,4,5,6) - ._.ctrl+shift+d 没问题

00:54:557 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ 暂时keep

00:56:740 (3,3) - 叠好好的

01:02:194 (2,3,4) - whistle真的这么好听么= = 是的，我很喜欢哦

01:03:649 (2,3,4) - ^ ^

01:04:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - 直线请摆直...弯的就摆的更弯点不会摆连打就用滑条生成大丈夫

01:07:558 (2) - P:1.75x N:0.76x 啥？？

注意细节还有连打的摆放这首歌whistle不合适我不知道你是不是用的自己的音效... 我觉得哔哔哔哔这样挺好的，找到好的再换吧

gl

Thanks for modding

噗啪

Kagamine Ren wrote:
白送的摸我就只摸你的Insane了什么叫白送
[Insane]
00:17:103 (2) - 这图我觉得真的真的不适合哨子，哨子一般不作为装饰音效，是用来单独跟一条音轨的，比如你看看FD啊什么的这个看看有没有好的set再换吧，其实我不讨厌哨子，哔哔哔哔的也挺好听
00:21:103 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 跳大一点，大胆一点好的，姑且把距离放大了
00:24:012 (1) - 这个滑条拉到后面红线，如果你觉得这样下不了clap，那就别下这个clap，顺便我觉得这个clap也是非常不适合这个图，为何不用GD里用的那些音效拉在红线里很难受，keep，音效的话，我考虑用gd的
00:29:467 (6) - 前面的跳的间距比较平均，这个就突然这么大，非常违和，我觉得还是把前面的跳也搞的大一点故意的
00:32:740 (1) - 为何突然3/4滑条啊因为突然想摆了
00:48:012 (3) - 漏whistle ok
00:48:376 (4) - 漏clap ok
01:06:740 - 滑条建议从这里开始，配合这个重音 Fu Ru 我觉得这2个都一样大声
01:29:467 (1,2,3) - 用复制，弄平行，间距一样好的
01:31:285 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这跳也太小了，担心星数上去的话就少弄点跳，既然弄跳就弄的爽一点好的，这个还在考虑怎么摆
01:36:740 (6) - NC 好的

细心一点搞一下细节，nazi mod 我就不写了

Thanks for modding

Kawaiwkyik

Kawaiwkyik wrote:
from wkyik's Mod Queue~

[General]
有沒有結尾好點的mp3啊我記得有tv size版本不想用Tv size的才用这个（其实是本来我在做full的，某些原因就这样了
BG現在是1365x768 改成1366x768? 1 pixiv好重要啊，真的真的好重要啊

[Insane]
00:05:830 (3) - 尾whistle 好
00:08:740 (1) - 這個打的時候有點怪換成1/1長度再跟前面3個滑條對成一個漸漸加速的梗这个自己改了下
00:21:649 (4,3) - finish 好
00:29:103 (4) - whistle換成finish 好
00:39:467 (4) - 換成一個折返一次的1/2 slider 好
00:55:649 (7) - 紅線就能停了藍線沒音这个暂时保留看看后期怎么改
01:03:649 (2) - ctrl+g? flow好點' 好的
01:07:376 - 這裡的音有點奇怪暂时keep
01:13:103 (5) - ctrl+g, 這裡有點角度的小跳比均速的移動好玩好
01:14:921 (1) - 尾whistle ok
01:21:830 (4) - 頭clap ok
01:24:558 - clap ok

其餘難度明天繼續摸

谢谢Mod

scooderic

scooderic wrote:
[General]
——
[Easy]
00:30:194 (1) - 这个Slider的开头应该是00:29:830，（尾巴的时间不要动，也就是说要延长这个Slider）。这是Easy，这样摆不好，keep

[Insane]
00:02:921 (2) - 这个Slider怎么想也应该从00:02:740开始啊，位置自调。怎么想都是keep，没明白为啥要从红线开始
00:03:467 - 00:06:194 - 这段时间内，节奏应该是 http://puu.sh/fRBZT/86a51d29e2.png ，否则就过度单调了。一个Intro这么几把干啥?
00:32:740 (1) - 尾巴长了，在这没必要用ExtendedSlider。暂时保留，考虑怎么改
00:39:467 (4) - 这儿的音不该漏，改成折返Slider。好的
00:40:012 (1) - 上面一条如果改了的话，就把这个折返Slider改成一个短Slider加一个单点。暂时保留
00:41:921 (3) - 多余的一个Note。暂时保留
00:44:467 (2) - ^ ^
01:04:376 (4) - 这个……还是按着规律向上为好。没必要，我也觉得现在这样flow好

谢谢摸

榻榻米

TT Mouse wrote:
Hi !

[Esay]

od=ar了。建议ar+1 没必要 keep

00:46:012 这样好看点 http://puu.sh/fRg6T/644c1c02c6.png 好

01:30:558 (5,1) - 01:36:194 (2,1) - 会不会太近了？什么意思？

[Insane]

00:02:921 (2) - 这里跟前一样对称好点吧，要不跟后面DS略近，打起来不是很舒服这里不是对称着么

00:04:740 (3,1,2) - 不妨DS拉大一点？

00:07:285 (1,1) - 各自ctrl+g，in放开点打起来好,1/1没必要那么近 Keep

00:10:558 (4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 为什么不摆正五边啊11111 不知道，爽就这样摆了

00:12:376 (1,2) - 这跟后面是一样的节奏 DS却不同 00:16:012 (3,4) - 没考虑过，稍微把后面的4移开了点

00:22:740 (1,2,3) - 好远;w; 爽

00:29:649 (7) - 214.154 。。好

00:41:830 (2,3,4) - 这样踩不到重音，不建议 01:09:830 (4,5,6) - 没明白

00:53:649 (2,3,4,5,6) -正五边形plz... 都是怎么看到的啊，我看的还是一样的。。。暂时保留

00:54:557 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -正六边形plz... 不作修改

01:04:376 (4) - 这里怎么想都应该ctrl+G 好点怎么想都是上下的flow

01:13:103 (5) - ctrl+G 好的

没了祝早日起飞111

谢谢Mod~

alacat

alacat wrote:
as request about metadata

Title : 君の知らない物語 -TV Edit-
Romanised Title : Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari -TV Edit-

official website : http://www.bakemonogatari.com/music/index.html#music02

Additional Modding :

Background image:
It should be 1366x768 size for 16:9 (1 pixel lol) dat 1 pixiv ..

Hard :
Please check tags/preview time/timing. You should unify them same as other diffs.
00:50:547 (2) - Unsnapped
01:04:365 (3) - ^

Good luck ~

btw I love this anime My name is from "Tsubasa cat" haha

Oh really ,alanya ,tsubanya lel

Ok , Thanks for metadata and the Hard issues ,fixed !

Mei

1,053 posts

Joined March 2012

Mei 2015-02-19T05:51:28+00:00

你这不是tv edit那个mp3啊。。是自己剪得。我柑橘用君の知らない物語才是对的

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2015-02-19T06:03:14+00:00

我覺得還是換mp3比較妥當

SoGa

236 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

SoGa 2015-02-19T07:04:23+00:00

我觉得这个mp3挺好啊，，你们说换就换吧。我这个懒b 又de重新调整了 orz

EncoreW

833 posts

Joined June 2013

EncoreW 2015-02-20T11:12:36+00:00

[General]

百度百科上说这歌的专辑名是Today Is A Beautiful Day，主唱是Nagi (ガゼル)你看看能不能加进tags去

似乎还缺一个Hard？

[Insane]

4星出头的话我觉得这个BPM的话AR8.5也不错

00:06:558 (1,1,1) - 这变速的幅度感觉不够大，或者说这地方可能不需要变速

00:09:467 (1) - 到00:12:376 (1) - 感觉可以用音量逐渐变大的音效

00:10:558 (4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 五角星摆的不太正，00:11:285 (1,2) - （300，46），00:12:012 (1,2) - （212，46）会好一点

00:13:649 (4) - 移到（76，263）附近会好看点，而且flow什么的也不受什么影响，打起来也很顺

00:15:103 (4,1) - 这个blanket问题有点严重

00:17:103 (2,4) - 这两个地方用哨子的声音可能不太恰当，试试看自定义音效？

00:36:376 (4,1) - 可以再搞的严谨一点

00:37:103 (1,3,1) - 这里的几个clap听上去和唱的不太对应，感觉换成声音比较小的soft whistle会好一点

01:31:285 (2) - 这之后的十几个单点完全可以摆的越来越大啊，这么几个重叠就搞定了感觉有点浪费

[Moecho's 那啥]

165BPM就AR9.2了，前几天还觉得250BPM的AR9.5挺好的。。

00:28:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 听上去的话这几个音量也可以越来越大

00:50:921 (3) - 虽然这不是啥问题，不过我觉得还是滑条往下拉好一点而不是向上

MirinH

726 posts

Joined January 2013

MirinH 2015-02-21T00:58:24+00:00

from my q
mp3最好还是换一下
~~收gd狂魔soga~~
[Easy]

00:28:558 (4) - 什么节奏
00:29:830 - 这是故意不下还是什么
00:33:103 (2) - 这种不适合这里
00:53:103 (1) - 不要偷懒厚不厚啊，要拉拉到底不要中间折返
01:05:830 (1) - 01:06:194 在这里开始

[Kwan]

00:23:103 (5) - 不变速吗
00:46:194 (4) - 觉得挺怪，建议1/1这样感觉missing beat

[Mei]

00:10:921 (1,2,3,4) - 。。。用心一点摆梗好不好啊
00:33:467 - 我不觉得tv size break好
00:53:830 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ds至少放大一点吧不然跟前面完全没区别
01:35:830 (4) - 折返这里感觉不突出，3个note吧

[Insane]

00:11:649 (1,2,1,2) - 这个跳比00:10:921 (1,2,1,2) - 还要小，音乐明明激烈些的说
00:13:830 (1) - 不要每个白线都finish很吵，bgm有finish再放
00:24:012 (1,2,3) - 距离有点坑
00:28:012 (5) - 干嘛用这个
00:30:194 (3) - 这一段不适合24clap吧，背景没有鼓
00:32:740 (1,2) - 背景是柔和的钢琴然后你就overmap了
00:41:830 (2,3,4) - 干嘛连打
00:57:467 (1) - 你这后面的跳比前面的00:53:649 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 还要大，不觉得不合曲吗
01:05:376 (1,2) - ...谁教你的，al吗
01:06:558 (1) - 音效和节奏在这里都很违和
01:07:467 (1,2) - 不合曲，建议删了

[Moecho]

这个难度真心不适合9.2，ar9足矣
00:10:921 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 循序渐进的ds更适合这个音乐
00:15:830 (4,5) - 前面这里都放了连打这里却美丽，后面那小节也是
00:53:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这里有些跳比kiai还大

gl

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2015-02-21T14:40:05+00:00

你看看你乱给kd，害我们被deny，多难看

Moecho

267 posts

Joined October 2014

Moecho 2015-02-22T19:32:52+00:00

tm1209 wrote:
[Moecho's 那啥]

165BPM就AR9.2了，前几天还觉得250BPM的AR9.5挺好的。。 AR不只看BPM來下定的...

00:28:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 听上去的话这几个音量也可以越来越大不用

00:50:921 (3) - 虽然这不是啥问题，不过我觉得还是滑条往下拉好一点而不是向上 no change

Alex Li wrote:
from my q
[Moecho]
这个难度真心不适合9.2，ar9足矣不明白你們有沒有想過AR9的ms並不是人類眼睛覺得最好的AR 但是這麼nazi的話就成全你們
00:10:921 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 循序渐进的ds更适合这个音乐 DS = shit
00:15:830 (4,5) - 前面这里都放了连打这里却美丽，后面那小节也是因為music intensity不一樣
00:53:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这里有些跳比kiai还大那又怎樣, no fix
gl

thanks for modding~

Update

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 65830
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.5
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[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2

[Metadata]
Title:Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari -TV Edit-
TitleUnicode:君の知らない物語 -TV Edit-
Artist:supercell
ArtistUnicode:supercell
Creator:SoGa
Version:Moecho's Monogatari
Source:化物語
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SoGa 2015-02-25T00:36:45+00:00

Moecho wrote:

tm1209 wrote:
[Moecho's 那啥]

165BPM就AR9.2了，前几天还觉得250BPM的AR9.5挺好的。。 AR不只看BPM來下定的...

00:28:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 听上去的话这几个音量也可以越来越大不用

00:50:921 (3) - 虽然这不是啥问题，不过我觉得还是滑条往下拉好一点而不是向上 no change

Alex Li wrote:
from my q
[Moecho]
这个难度真心不适合9.2，ar9足矣不明白你們有沒有想過AR9的ms並不是人類眼睛覺得最好的AR 但是這麼nazi的話就成全你們
00:10:921 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 循序渐进的ds更适合这个音乐 DS = shit
00:15:830 (4,5) - 前面这里都放了连打这里却美丽，后面那小节也是因為music intensity不一樣
00:53:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这里有些跳比kiai还大那又怎樣, no fix
gl

thanks for modding~

SoGa改Mp3吧，不然TV Edit就感覺好奇怪

SoGa换Mp3的话打算也remap。。。

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N不建议cs ar od全用小数這有啥理據支撐
建议全程滑条不变速 ^
00:25:467 (3) - 00:25:830 - 这里鼓声太明显建议不要放在滑条中间折返下在这里可以最后补一个点我不是在跟鼓點呢我在跟ding ding ding
00:35:649 (1,2,1) - 这三个应该有整体性调整距离和形状使这一块整体ctrl-j不变，或者至少后面的1头尾x值一致搞成x值一致

Kawaiwkyik

00:07:285 (2) - 頭whistle i'm following the high pitch piano to add whistles
00:08:012 (3) - whistle ^
01:12:740 (5,6) - 這裡我覺得跟得不太好只是跟鼓

scooderic

00:32:376 (6) - 这个Note（在时间上）应该位于00:32:558。跟鋼琴
00:39:649 (3) - 这个Slider中间的音应该有。 ^

@TT Mouse: 不明白
@AL: 第一個變速太難中間突然的變速第二個改了

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Moecho

267 posts

Joined October 2014

Moecho 2015-02-26T17:56:05+00:00

啊啊我發現TV版的MP3區別蠻大的啊感覺沒必要換了然後又要remap蠻多地方 ;w;

Moecho

267 posts

Joined October 2014

Moecho 2015-03-20T22:47:56+00:00

re了一小部分

更新

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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9.2
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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SoGa

236 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

SoGa 2015-03-26T02:40:09+00:00

Update

Koiyuki

2,531 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2015-04-14T16:41:09+00:00

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will edit this post to mod in 1~2 days

Just some complaints.
My personal suggestions.
Highly recommended.
Unrankable, you have to fix it.

General

Why KwaN's Normal has "-TV Edit-" in title?
Found unused .wav files:
- soft-sliderslide2.wav
- soft-hitwhistle2.wav

Easy

01:05:830 (1,1) - 4 beats at least
01:12:012 (1,3) - 折返滑条还是拉正常点，让箭头指着滑条方向好不好

拉这么多奇形怪状的1/1滑条没看出有什么意义，感觉和SAO2 OP的easy质量差了一大截

KwaN's Normal

00:53:467 (1,2) - 实际play的时候由于自动堆叠的原因，这个走向对新手并不是十分容易看。虽然slider art棒棒哒，但还是换一种art吧？

Mei's Hard

end kiai time at the same time as other diffs? 01:36:740 -
00:23:103 (5) - 尾巴加个finish?

Insane

00:10:921 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 感觉直接五角星flow更好点，最后摆个跳
00:20:376 (3,1,2,3,4) - 这梗超卡手啊，从上面下来还要在纵向来回跳
00:41:830 (2,3,4) - 这白线三连是什么鬼
00:44:376 (1,2,3) - ^
00:58:921 (1,2,3,4) - 你有这么喜欢overlap吗？
01:10:558 (1) - 上下来回跳按你这flow应该从右往左更加舒服

Moecho's Monogatari

00:41:467 (1) - unsnap

你自己的diff不太行，感觉远不如你1st和马云姨妈

Little

2,509 posts

Joined November 2012

Little 2015-04-16T05:28:53+00:00

We talked a bit about map aesthetics.

Chatlog

22:43 SoGa: Hi cs16
22:43 SoGa: r u idle for a testplay on my map ? ;w;
22:43 CloudSplash16: uhh ok
22:43 *SoGa is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/632523 supercell - Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari]
22:43 SoGa: thanks ;w;
22:43 *CloudSplash16 is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/615141 supercell - Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari [Insane]]
22:45 CloudSplash16: One of my favourite songs :)
22:45 SoGa: me2 ;w;
22:46 CloudSplash16: The map seems mostly fine
22:46 SoGa: but ?
22:47 CloudSplash16: Just feels different from my feeling of the music. But that's not problem.
22:47 SoGa: hm
22:47 SoGa: "not suit the music" e,e
22:48 SoGa: should i rush for more mods or find bn ?
22:49 CloudSplash16: Just my personal opinion
22:49 CloudSplash16: The part from 00:12:376 -
22:49 CloudSplash16: to 00:21:103 -
22:49 SoGa: fill it with some 1/4 ?
22:50 CloudSplash16: idk, i just feel like the rhythm could be better
22:51 SoGa: hm
22:51 CloudSplash16: But idk, it's not bad
22:51 SoGa: i followed "ez rhythm"
22:51 SoGa: since i have insane2 ;w;
22:51 CloudSplash16: ok
22:52 CloudSplash16: Well actually, other than that
22:53 CloudSplash16: I think the diff generally doesn't look very clean.
22:53 SoGa: aesthetic again .-.
22:53 SoGa: i hateeeeeeeeeee it , dk how to make aesthetic
22:53 CloudSplash16: and I have a few minor suggestions
22:54 CloudSplash16: 00:11:649 (1,2) - I recommend moving this down so spacing increases throughout the pattern of circles.
22:54 SoGa: e.e
22:55 SoGa: okay
22:55 CloudSplash16: ah
22:55 CloudSplash16: if you want to know about aesthetics...
22:55 SoGa: eh
22:55 SoGa: will u give me some tips ;w;
22:55 CloudSplash16: mmm.. i can try to give you some general advice
22:55 SoGa: sure
22:56 CloudSplash16: Take 00:08:012 (1,1,2,1) - as example
22:56 CloudSplash16: There are a few reasons why modders will tell you this doesn't look clean:
22:56 CloudSplash16: 00:08:012 (1,1) - heads of these sliders are close together.
22:56 CloudSplash16: I recommend
22:57 CloudSplash16: to move 00:08:740 (1) - 
22:57 CloudSplash16: so that
22:57 CloudSplash16: it stacks on the end of 00:07:285 (1) - 
22:57 SoGa: eh
22:57 SoGa: head head close toghther is bad ?
22:57 CloudSplash16: Many people will think it looks bad
22:58 SoGa: oh
22:58 CloudSplash16: well, actually
22:58 CloudSplash16: the best way to make it look nice is to make most distances between objects similar
22:58 CloudSplash16: so if you have distance like this for the previous sliders: http://puu.sh/hfyCY/c3c20cf7f2.jpg
22:58 SoGa: e...e.
22:59 SoGa: i dint understand
22:59 CloudSplash16: then try to make this similar distance: http://puu.sh/hfyEe/0f597f4775.jpg
22:59 SoGa: ok
22:59 CloudSplash16: wait
22:59 SoGa: stacked
22:59 CloudSplash16: lemme try to show you
23:00 CloudSplash16: this is what your old placement looked like: http://puu.sh/hfyI9/34d18829f3.jpg
23:01 CloudSplash16: k wait
23:01 CloudSplash16: lemme make another screenshot to show
23:02 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfyMQ/75cdf8febe.jpg
23:02 CloudSplash16: try to make all those distances similar to each other
23:02 CloudSplash16: don't have to be exactly the same
23:05 SoGa: sry cs16
23:05 SoGa: my internet pregnant
23:05 CloudSplash16: lol
23:05 SoGa: or maybe my laptop
23:06 CloudSplash16: did you get my image?
23:06 SoGa: now i use my celphone to connect the internet shitty laptop
23:06 SoGa: no i didnt
23:06 SoGa: i saw ur last msg wrote , lemme make another screenshot to show
23:06 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfyMQ/75cdf8febe.jpg
23:06 CloudSplash16: try to make all those distances similar to each other
23:07 CloudSplash16: don't have to be exactly the same
23:08 SoGa: but
23:08 SoGa: the whole map ?
23:08 CloudSplash16: well, it doesn't have to be for every object
23:09 CloudSplash16: but it's the same reason why this doesn't look good 00:13:103 (3,4,1) - 
23:10 SoGa: ooo
23:10 SoGa: actually dat one i learned from hinsvar's map
23:11 SoGa: not same but something "similar" .-.
23:12 CloudSplash16: I just think it doesn't look clean
23:12 SoGa: ok i will fix it asap
23:12 CloudSplash16: Well, it is up to you.
23:13 SoGa: sure !
23:13 SoGa: 00:58:921 (1,3,4) -
23:13 SoGa: is this bad too ?
23:14 CloudSplash16: Yeah :P
23:14 SoGa: .-.
23:15 CloudSplash16: Things like that are not always "bad", but it just doesn't look clean, so be careful with how much you vary the spacing
23:15 CloudSplash16: and I don't mean like distance spacing. When I talk about the spacing, I am talking about the minimum distance between any parts of the objects
23:17 SoGa: hm
23:17 CloudSplash16: I have more advice, but would you like to hear it now, or after you fix those parts?
23:18 SoGa: now if it is possible ;w
23:18 SoGa: ;w;
23:18 CloudSplash16: ok
23:19 SoGa: thanks
23:19 CloudSplash16: 00:15:103 (4,1) - Can try to blanket too
23:19 CloudSplash16: Just select 00:15:285 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - 
23:19 CloudSplash16: and move them all left xD
23:20 CloudSplash16: But
23:20 CloudSplash16: It would be best if you could try to re-shape 00:15:285 (1) -
23:21 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfzL9/8756f6506c.jpg
23:22 CloudSplash16: ;w;
23:22 CloudSplash16: what was the last thing i said?
23:22 SoGa: sry , my internet pregnant again
23:22 SoGa: until can try to blanket too
23:22 SoGa: then i said it was blanket
23:22 SoGa: but i blanket this group
23:22 SoGa: 00:15:285 (1,3) -
23:23 CloudSplash16: yeah
23:23 CloudSplash16: but
23:23 CloudSplash16: you can move all of 00:15:285 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - 
23:23 CloudSplash16: to the left a bit
23:23 CloudSplash16: so 00:15:285 (1) - is blanket with both
23:23 SoGa: ok
23:23 CloudSplash16: It would be best if you could re-shape (1)
23:24 CloudSplash16: so it has same curve radius as the previous slider:
23:24 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfzTc/b4be1a7306.jpg
23:24 SoGa: sure , doing it now
23:25 SoGa: done !
23:26 CloudSplash16: 00:17:830 (4,1) - I think jump would be more appropriate here, because (1) is a strong note.
23:27 SoGa: ok
23:27 CloudSplash16: 00:18:921 (1,2,1,2) - About this, try to make clean blankets
23:28 SoGa: clean blankets?
23:28 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfA8l/b527159900.jpg
23:28 SoGa: i moved it 2 grips down now
23:29 CloudSplash16: distance between (2) and the inner edge of (1) should be equal all around
23:29 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfAam/2e9d3c4890.jpg
23:30 CloudSplash16: Your curve is still a bit too wide.
23:31 SoGa: fixed
23:32 CloudSplash16: 00:19:649 (1,2,3) - 
23:32 CloudSplash16: mm.. this is a bit difficult to explain
23:32 SoGa: 00:20:376 (3) -
23:32 SoGa: i want to change this rhythm
23:33 CloudSplash16: oh ok
23:33 CloudSplash16: but just let me tell you as a tip, for future maps
23:33 CloudSplash16: when you make this kind of slider end stack, 
23:33 SoGa: ok
23:34 CloudSplash16: it's better to make some angle between the two sliders
23:34 CloudSplash16: like this: http://puu.sh/hfApZ/7b075abf08.jpg
23:34 CloudSplash16: sharper angle
23:34 CloudSplash16: it looks better that way
23:35 SoGa: ohh
23:35 SoGa: what was the old one
23:35 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfAtq/d3443ed293.jpg
23:36 CloudSplash16: ah.. i rotated it a bit, but you should still be able to see that the angle I made is sharper
23:36 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfAwe/790df20af1.png
23:36 SoGa: gg
23:36 CloudSplash16: lol
23:36 SoGa: ok , i saw it now
23:37 CloudSplash16: 00:25:103 (4,1) - For overlap, it's best to do half overlap
23:38 SoGa: half overlap ?
23:38 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfABd/ce0625cc42.jpg
23:38 SoGa: idk how to overlap tho
23:38 SoGa: oh , the current one is too much ?
23:38 CloudSplash16: yeah, do you see in my picture
23:38 SoGa: sure
23:38 CloudSplash16: about half of the slider end and about half of the slider body
23:39 SoGa: so , the point has to be in the white line
23:39 SoGa: something like dat?
23:39 CloudSplash16: it looks best that way, yes
23:39 SoGa: ok
23:40 CloudSplash16: 00:32:194 (4,5,1) - 
23:41 CloudSplash16: you see that (4) is overlapping with more than one section of (1)?
23:41 CloudSplash16: It's ok, but I recommend to avoid this kind of complex overlap.
23:42 CloudSplash16: maybe do something like this: http://puu.sh/hfAMp/7d7f7a6d80.jpg
23:42 CloudSplash16: this one is not that important though
23:42 SoGa: eh
23:42 SoGa: idk , i just followed this ds
23:42 SoGa: 00:31:830 (2,3,4) -
23:43 SoGa: well , fixed anyway xD
23:43 CloudSplash16: hmm? I mean you can Move (5,1)
23:44 CloudSplash16: 00:36:376 (4,1) - you can make this more perfect
23:44 SoGa: ahhh
23:44 SoGa: how to make it perfect
23:45 SoGa: 1st time use this kind of blanket tho
23:45 SoGa: learned from death's az map
23:45 CloudSplash16: every part should be equal distance
23:46 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfAZ0/82bea0b11c.jpg
23:46 CloudSplash16: ah sorry, even mine is not perfect...
23:47 CloudSplash16: here: http://puu.sh/hfB0O/0288a9c9ed.jpg
23:47 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfB1O/932c5bd73f.jpg
23:47 SoGa: kinda hard ..
23:47 CloudSplash16: ok, that's better.
23:48 CloudSplash16: now,
23:48 CloudSplash16: make the distance between 00:37:103 (1,3) - 
23:48 CloudSplash16: the same as 00:36:376 (4,1) - 
23:48 SoGa: done !
23:49 SoGa: 00:38:558 (1,2,3,4) -  is this ds consider too large ?
23:49 CloudSplash16: no, it's fine
23:49 CloudSplash16: actually, this pattern looks very good.
23:49 CloudSplash16: do you see why?
23:50 CloudSplash16: :)
23:50 SoGa: same ds and blanket ?
23:50 CloudSplash16: well, not "ds"
23:51 SoGa: 00:39:103 (2,3) -  i drew a 1/1 slider to make it
23:51 CloudSplash16: mm.. that's not what i mean.
23:51 CloudSplash16: it looks good because:
23:51 SoGa: ;w;
23:51 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfBdy/5a2f89e717.jpg
23:51 CloudSplash16: these distances are all the same
23:52 CloudSplash16: not the same as "ds"
23:52 SoGa: ur same as Popner tho
23:52 CloudSplash16: ?
23:53 SoGa: popner also told me that
23:53 SoGa: lel
23:53 CloudSplash16: it's because it's true xD
23:53 SoGa: my 1st ranked map , the kiai part is made like dat tho
23:53 SoGa: ww
23:54 CloudSplash16: 00:42:012 (4,5) - Can improve blanket here
23:55 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfBmz/bb3d5746d2.jpg
23:57 SoGa: okay fixed
23:57 CloudSplash16: k show me a screenshot with 00:42:012 (4,5,1) - 
23:58 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfBuE/2ecdc6f6c7.jpg
23:58 CloudSplash16: and include (1)
23:58 CloudSplash16: in same screenshot
23:59 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfBxV/f7666ef2c2.jpg
23:59 CloudSplash16: ok good
23:59 SoGa: xD
23:59 SoGa: actually i move （1） a bit to the right when u said in same screenshoot
23:59 CloudSplash16: that's good :)
23:59 CloudSplash16: that's what i was going to tell you to do xD
00:00 SoGa: ;w; , im learning !
00:00 SoGa: sugoi
00:00 CloudSplash16: 00:43:285 (3,5) - 
00:00 CloudSplash16: (blanket)
00:01 SoGa: done
00:02 CloudSplash16: 00:47:285 (1,2,3,4) - I actually like the flow here, but I think many people will say it looks bad
00:02 SoGa: 00:50:194 (1,2) -
00:02 SoGa: 00:50:558 (2,3) -
00:02 SoGa: should i change this one
00:02 SoGa: i want to ctrl g this 2
00:03 SoGa: then move 00:51:285 (4) - to the left center bart direction to (1)
00:03 SoGa: eh , i like it too , not fixing that one yet .-.
00:03 CloudSplash16: k show me?
00:03 CloudSplash16: for 00:50:194 (1,2,3,4) - 
00:04 SoGa: give me a sec
00:04 SoGa: i think i got 2 options ..
00:04 CloudSplash16: I have something in mind too
00:06 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfBRq/4e506da574.jpg
00:06 SoGa: maybe something like this is better?
00:06 CloudSplash16: yeah, that is better
00:06 CloudSplash16: here's what I was thinking: http://puu.sh/hfBTK/3a5e914d5f.jpg
00:07 CloudSplash16: but yours is good too
00:07 SoGa: ur one seems more aesthetic , but think 4 to 1 a little bit far maybe ?
00:07 SoGa: i remember someone did mentioned this part too
00:07 SoGa: tho
00:08 CloudSplash16: then how's this? http://puu.sh/hfBZq/ccc3fc3410.jpg
00:08 CloudSplash16: but then have to move 00:51:649 (1) - 
00:08 CloudSplash16: so probably your way is better, so you don't have to change as much
00:08 SoGa: ok , i will keep it
00:09 SoGa: 00:53:649 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:09 SoGa: should i spread it ..
00:10 CloudSplash16: I think it's fine
00:10 CloudSplash16: it plays really nice
00:10 SoGa: ;w;
00:10 SoGa: fycho always spreads jump
00:11 CloudSplash16: spread out will look cleaner, but I like your current jump pattern.
00:11 CloudSplash16: I would keep it :P
00:11 SoGa: ok
00:11 SoGa: keep
00:11 SoGa: :d
00:12 CloudSplash16: 00:58:194 (3,1) - Maybe this can be a blanket
00:12 SoGa: eh , i didnt blanket it ?
00:13 SoGa: fix!
00:14 CloudSplash16: 00:58:558 (4,2) - 
00:14 SoGa: blanket
00:15 CloudSplash16: mm ok, 
00:15 CloudSplash16: i want to see how this part looks
00:15 CloudSplash16: after you did those blankets
00:15 SoGa: is this consider look bad
00:15 SoGa: 00:58:921 (1,3,4) -
00:15 CloudSplash16: i don't know how it looks now, after you fixed the blankets :P
00:16 SoGa: if it look bad , i will change it blanket 00:59:649 (3,1) - this group and move (4) upside
00:16 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfCmZ/0d33490cb4.jpg
00:21 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfCzI/aa2b17eeb0.jpg
00:21 SoGa: ahhh
00:21 SoGa: good way !
00:22 CloudSplash16: do you see where I put the circle (4)? :P
00:22 SoGa: no
00:22 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfCEn/f8fc510df6.jpg
00:23 SoGa: stack with 1 ?
00:23 CloudSplash16: yes
00:23 CloudSplash16: that way, it's like pattern with 01:00:012 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - 
00:24 SoGa: cool
00:24 SoGa: more flow and aesthetic now
00:25 CloudSplash16: 01:04:376 (4,1) - I feel that the flow here is a bit awkward.
00:25 CloudSplash16: The jump is harsh
00:26 SoGa: what if i put it like this
00:26 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfCMN/7d47f368d3.jpg
00:26 CloudSplash16: that's a bit better
00:26 CloudSplash16: but how about this? http://puu.sh/hfCPr/0c4788740d.jpg
00:28 SoGa: oh
00:28 CloudSplash16: yours is ok too. choose whichever way you like.
00:29 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfCVj/c329b8abe3.jpg
00:30 CloudSplash16: ok
00:31 CloudSplash16: 01:07:467 (1,2,3) - Looks better if you make the spacing a little bit smaller, and straight
00:31 SoGa: or maybe just stack it ?
00:31 CloudSplash16: That works too
00:32 SoGa: stack
00:32 CloudSplash16: 01:08:012 (4) - Looks better if you make it the same shape as (3)
00:33 CloudSplash16: like this maybe http://puu.sh/hfD86/93e7ce0651.jpg
00:34 SoGa: but i blanket this
00:34 SoGa: 01:08:012 (4,7) -
00:34 CloudSplash16: oh
00:34 CloudSplash16: I would prefer to use same slider shape for (3,4)
00:35 CloudSplash16: but if you want to keep your blanket, that's ok too
00:35 CloudSplash16: then make your blanket cleaner.
00:35 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfDck/a9bb62c372.jpg
00:35 SoGa: well
00:35 SoGa: i will make it the same slider
00:35 SoGa: ;w;
00:38 CloudSplash16: 01:12:012 (1,4) - Make this half overlap
00:39 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfDnA/679ff49aec.jpg
00:39 SoGa: ya , i did it
00:39 SoGa: half of them
00:40 SoGa: 01:12:921 (5,2) - this too
00:40 SoGa: 01:13:467 (1,5) -  and this one tho
00:40 SoGa: 01:15:467 (4,6) -
00:40 SoGa: ;w;
00:41 CloudSplash16: 01:15:649 (5,6) - Give them the same shape
00:42 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfDuA/b0e95d2dee.jpg
00:43 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfDy3/499b0fe6a0.jpg
00:43 CloudSplash16: ok
00:44 CloudSplash16: 01:16:376 (1,3) - Make a cleaner blanket
00:44 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfDB4/f5077e2496.jpg
00:45 SoGa: done
00:45 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfDDV/722ecf5b69.jpg
00:46 CloudSplash16: 01:22:558 (2) - 
00:46 CloudSplash16: Move like this.. maybe: http://puu.sh/hfDHb/1eaf7ac212.jpg
00:47 SoGa: hm
00:47 CloudSplash16: the blanket is less important.
00:48 SoGa: 01:23:649 (1,2) - same shape here right
00:48 CloudSplash16: yeah
00:49 SoGa: 01:23:103 (4) -
00:49 SoGa: should i stack this with 01:23:103 (4,1) -
00:49 SoGa: or blanket with 01:22:558 (2,4) -
00:50 CloudSplash16: did you move 01:22:558 (2) - like i said?
00:51 CloudSplash16: can do this: http://puu.sh/hfDSf/d3cda75e1e.jpg
00:51 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfDSs/8fe89e690b.jpg
00:52 CloudSplash16: see my screenshot for my suggestion^
00:53 SoGa: saw
00:53 SoGa: i will ust it
00:53 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfDY0/debc76bf5e.jpg
00:53 CloudSplash16: ok
00:54 CloudSplash16: If I mapped this song, i would slow down sv at 01:25:103 -
00:55 CloudSplash16: but don't mind... it's just style difference
00:55 CloudSplash16: 01:26:558 (1,4) - Make cleaner blanket
00:57 SoGa: ok
00:57 SoGa: i rotate this one
00:57 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfE7v/6ba8d3bd5a.jpg
00:57 SoGa: 01:29:830 (2,3) -
00:57 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfE8k/84e5e928fd.jpg
00:59 CloudSplash16: nice
00:59 CloudSplash16: just for fun.. lol
00:59 CloudSplash16: 01:27:285 (4,1) - 
00:59 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfEdM/998b32ba27.jpg
00:59 CloudSplash16: xD
01:00 SoGa: it was stacked T.T
01:00 SoGa: forget to stack it back after i made the blanket ;w;
01:00 CloudSplash16: oh
01:01 SoGa: 233
01:01 CloudSplash16: it was perfect stack like that? xD
01:01 SoGa: ye
01:01 CloudSplash16: nice
01:01 SoGa: i think im sure improve learning with master cs16
01:02 CloudSplash16: lol
01:02 SoGa: ;w;
01:03 CloudSplash16: 01:35:285 (1) - 
01:03 SoGa: actually i dont know how to draw reverse slider
01:03 SoGa: i saw fycho sometimes use this kind of reverse slide , so i use it
01:03 CloudSplash16: ok
01:03 CloudSplash16: do distance like this: http://puu.sh/hfEnx/2c5f724175.jpg
01:04 SoGa: 01:05:830 (3) - like this one tho
01:04 CloudSplash16: the slider shape is ok
01:04 SoGa: ok
01:05 CloudSplash16: just do the same distance as 01:34:376 (3,4) - 
01:05 SoGa: a square ;w;
01:06 CloudSplash16: well,
01:06 SoGa: 01:34:921 (5,1) - but if i made this one the same ds as 01:34:376 (3,4) -
01:06 CloudSplash16: I think it's better for 01:34:921 (5,1) - to have large spacing
01:06 CloudSplash16: because (1) is a strong note
01:06 SoGa: is not it sound weird cuz 01:35:285 (1) -  is down beat ?
01:06 SoGa: ya , dat what i wanted to say 2
01:06 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfEvi/35bb3b1ffc.jpg
01:06 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfEvA/01b80361d0.jpg
01:07 CloudSplash16: ok
01:08 SoGa: ok
01:09 CloudSplash16: 00:20:376 (3,4,5,6) - 
01:09 SoGa: 00:20:376 (3,4,5,6) -
01:09 SoGa: i wanted to say it 2
01:09 CloudSplash16: I think it's better for
01:09 SoGa: i used this rhythm
01:09 CloudSplash16: (4,5)
01:09 CloudSplash16: to stack on (6)
01:09 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfEC0/a46650046a.jpg
01:09 SoGa: ah , did u uploaded?
01:09 CloudSplash16: yeah
01:10 SoGa: 4-5 stack on 6
01:10 CloudSplash16: yes,
01:10 SoGa: should i move it closer?
01:10 CloudSplash16: because
01:11 SoGa: i dont really know spacing of this kind of rhythm
01:11 SoGa: not used to use it
01:11 CloudSplash16: (5,6) is quarter beat
01:11 SoGa: tho
01:11 CloudSplash16: it's really hard if you have circle to slider 1/4 beat, spaced out.
01:11 CloudSplash16: better this way: http://puu.sh/hfEH6/fb62e11520.jpg
01:12 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfEHU/6813804ad1.jpg
01:12 CloudSplash16: yeah
01:12 SoGa: dk if it too large
01:13 SoGa: ;w;
01:13 CloudSplash16: ok then maybe http://puu.sh/hfEM2/230ced396e.jpg
01:14 SoGa: much confusing ww
01:17 SoGa: then i cant pass my diff
01:17 CloudSplash16: D:
01:19 CloudSplash16: I just think 00:20:649 (5,6) - distance is too big
01:19 CloudSplash16: for circle to slider
01:20 SoGa: eh?
01:20 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfF3C/230a6e871c.jpg
01:20 CloudSplash16: oh, you changed it
01:21 SoGa: ;w;
01:22 CloudSplash16: 00:50:194 (1,2,3,4) - Did you get your hitsounds here?
01:22 CloudSplash16: (3,4) feels empty
01:23 SoGa: ya
01:23 SoGa: i testplay and notice dat
01:24 CloudSplash16: ok
01:25 CloudSplash16: I think the map looks better now than before.
01:26 SoGa: a lot
01:26 SoGa: xD
01:26 SoGa: and i hve learn many things too !
01:26 SoGa: Thanks so much , post it ;w;
01:26 CloudSplash16: ok :)

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2015-04-16T05:47:54+00:00

不換了呀除非你想到一個比我更棒的
本來我是頭尾perfect stack的後來問過多個BN的意見 CTRL+S了
其實只要不是頭尾perfect stack就rankable 又沒交叉啥的

SoGa

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Topic Starter

SoGa 2015-04-16T05:48:32+00:00

Minakami Yuki

Minakami Yuki wrote:
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will edit this post to mod in 1~2 days

Just some complaints.
My personal suggestions.
Highly recommended.
Unrankable, you have to fix it.

General
Why KwaN's Normal has "-TV Edit-" in title? Fix
Found unused .wav files: delete
- soft-sliderslide2.wav
- soft-hitwhistle2.wav
Easy
01:05:830 (1,1) - 4 beats at least Fix!
01:12:012 (1,3) - 折返滑条还是拉正常点，让箭头指着滑条方向好不好好;w;

拉这么多奇形怪状的1/1滑条没看出有什么意义，感觉和SAO2 OP的easy质量差了一大截惊。。。

Insane
00:10:921 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 感觉直接五角星flow更好点，最后摆个跳
00:20:376 (3,1,2,3,4) - 这梗超卡手啊，从上面下来还要在纵向来回跳改了
00:41:830 (2,3,4) - 这白线三连是什么鬼删了蓝线note
00:44:376 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
00:58:921 (1,2,3,4) - 你有这么喜欢overlap吗？这个改美了点
01:10:558 (1) - 上下来回跳按你这flow应该从右往左更加舒服不，这个觉得从左舒服点，看柚子也经常这样做.-.

你自己的diff不太行，感觉远不如你1st和马云姨妈 Sad,,, Cs16 教我改了很多东西啦，希望有改进

谢谢Mod !

Cs16

CloudSplash16 wrote:

We talked a bit about map aesthetics.
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22:43 SoGa: Hi cs16
22:43 SoGa: r u idle for a testplay on my map ? ;w;
22:43 CloudSplash16: uhh ok
22:43 *SoGa is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/632523 supercell - Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari]
22:43 SoGa: thanks ;w;
22:43 *CloudSplash16 is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/615141 supercell - Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari [Insane]]
22:45 CloudSplash16: One of my favourite songs :)
22:45 SoGa: me2 ;w;
22:46 CloudSplash16: The map seems mostly fine
22:46 SoGa: but ?
22:47 CloudSplash16: Just feels different from my feeling of the music. But that's not problem.
22:47 SoGa: hm
22:47 SoGa: "not suit the music" e,e
22:48 SoGa: should i rush for more mods or find bn ?
22:49 CloudSplash16: Just my personal opinion
22:49 CloudSplash16: The part from 00:12:376 -
22:49 CloudSplash16: to 00:21:103 -
22:49 SoGa: fill it with some 1/4 ?
22:50 CloudSplash16: idk, i just feel like the rhythm could be better
22:51 SoGa: hm
22:51 CloudSplash16: But idk, it's not bad
22:51 SoGa: i followed "ez rhythm"
22:51 SoGa: since i have insane2 ;w;
22:51 CloudSplash16: ok
22:52 CloudSplash16: Well actually, other than that
22:53 CloudSplash16: I think the diff generally doesn't look very clean.
22:53 SoGa: aesthetic again .-.
22:53 SoGa: i hateeeeeeeeeee it , dk how to make aesthetic
22:53 CloudSplash16: and I have a few minor suggestions
22:54 CloudSplash16: 00:11:649 (1,2) - I recommend moving this down so spacing increases throughout the pattern of circles.
22:54 SoGa: e.e
22:55 SoGa: okay
22:55 CloudSplash16: ah
22:55 CloudSplash16: if you want to know about aesthetics...
22:55 SoGa: eh
22:55 SoGa: will u give me some tips ;w;
22:55 CloudSplash16: mmm.. i can try to give you some general advice
22:55 SoGa: sure
22:56 CloudSplash16: Take 00:08:012 (1,1,2,1) - as example
22:56 CloudSplash16: There are a few reasons why modders will tell you this doesn't look clean:
22:56 CloudSplash16: 00:08:012 (1,1) - heads of these sliders are close together.
22:56 CloudSplash16: I recommend
22:57 CloudSplash16: to move 00:08:740 (1) - 
22:57 CloudSplash16: so that
22:57 CloudSplash16: it stacks on the end of 00:07:285 (1) - 
22:57 SoGa: eh
22:57 SoGa: head head close toghther is bad ?
22:57 CloudSplash16: Many people will think it looks bad
22:58 SoGa: oh
22:58 CloudSplash16: well, actually
22:58 CloudSplash16: the best way to make it look nice is to make most distances between objects similar
22:58 CloudSplash16: so if you have distance like this for the previous sliders: http://puu.sh/hfyCY/c3c20cf7f2.jpg
22:58 SoGa: e...e.
22:59 SoGa: i dint understand
22:59 CloudSplash16: then try to make this similar distance: http://puu.sh/hfyEe/0f597f4775.jpg
22:59 SoGa: ok
22:59 CloudSplash16: wait
22:59 SoGa: stacked
22:59 CloudSplash16: lemme try to show you
23:00 CloudSplash16: this is what your old placement looked like: http://puu.sh/hfyI9/34d18829f3.jpg
23:01 CloudSplash16: k wait
23:01 CloudSplash16: lemme make another screenshot to show
23:02 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfyMQ/75cdf8febe.jpg
23:02 CloudSplash16: try to make all those distances similar to each other
23:02 CloudSplash16: don't have to be exactly the same
23:05 SoGa: sry cs16
23:05 SoGa: my internet pregnant
23:05 CloudSplash16: lol
23:05 SoGa: or maybe my laptop
23:06 CloudSplash16: did you get my image?
23:06 SoGa: now i use my celphone to connect the internet shitty laptop
23:06 SoGa: no i didnt
23:06 SoGa: i saw ur last msg wrote , lemme make another screenshot to show
23:06 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfyMQ/75cdf8febe.jpg
23:06 CloudSplash16: try to make all those distances similar to each other
23:07 CloudSplash16: don't have to be exactly the same
23:08 SoGa: but
23:08 SoGa: the whole map ?
23:08 CloudSplash16: well, it doesn't have to be for every object
23:09 CloudSplash16: but it's the same reason why this doesn't look good 00:13:103 (3,4,1) - 
23:10 SoGa: ooo
23:10 SoGa: actually dat one i learned from hinsvar's map
23:11 SoGa: not same but something "similar" .-.
23:12 CloudSplash16: I just think it doesn't look clean
23:12 SoGa: ok i will fix it asap
23:12 CloudSplash16: Well, it is up to you.
23:13 SoGa: sure !
23:13 SoGa: 00:58:921 (1,3,4) -
23:13 SoGa: is this bad too ?
23:14 CloudSplash16: Yeah :P
23:14 SoGa: .-.
23:15 CloudSplash16: Things like that are not always "bad", but it just doesn't look clean, so be careful with how much you vary the spacing
23:15 CloudSplash16: and I don't mean like distance spacing. When I talk about the spacing, I am talking about the minimum distance between any parts of the objects
23:17 SoGa: hm
23:17 CloudSplash16: I have more advice, but would you like to hear it now, or after you fix those parts?
23:18 SoGa: now if it is possible ;w
23:18 SoGa: ;w;
23:18 CloudSplash16: ok
23:19 SoGa: thanks
23:19 CloudSplash16: 00:15:103 (4,1) - Can try to blanket too
23:19 CloudSplash16: Just select 00:15:285 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - 
23:19 CloudSplash16: and move them all left xD
23:20 CloudSplash16: But
23:20 CloudSplash16: It would be best if you could try to re-shape 00:15:285 (1) -
23:21 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfzL9/8756f6506c.jpg
23:22 CloudSplash16: ;w;
23:22 CloudSplash16: what was the last thing i said?
23:22 SoGa: sry , my internet pregnant again
23:22 SoGa: until can try to blanket too
23:22 SoGa: then i said it was blanket
23:22 SoGa: but i blanket this group
23:22 SoGa: 00:15:285 (1,3) -
23:23 CloudSplash16: yeah
23:23 CloudSplash16: but
23:23 CloudSplash16: you can move all of 00:15:285 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - 
23:23 CloudSplash16: to the left a bit
23:23 CloudSplash16: so 00:15:285 (1) - is blanket with both
23:23 SoGa: ok
23:23 CloudSplash16: It would be best if you could re-shape (1)
23:24 CloudSplash16: so it has same curve radius as the previous slider:
23:24 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfzTc/b4be1a7306.jpg
23:24 SoGa: sure , doing it now
23:25 SoGa: done !
23:26 CloudSplash16: 00:17:830 (4,1) - I think jump would be more appropriate here, because (1) is a strong note.
23:27 SoGa: ok
23:27 CloudSplash16: 00:18:921 (1,2,1,2) - About this, try to make clean blankets
23:28 SoGa: clean blankets?
23:28 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfA8l/b527159900.jpg
23:28 SoGa: i moved it 2 grips down now
23:29 CloudSplash16: distance between (2) and the inner edge of (1) should be equal all around
23:29 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfAam/2e9d3c4890.jpg
23:30 CloudSplash16: Your curve is still a bit too wide.
23:31 SoGa: fixed
23:32 CloudSplash16: 00:19:649 (1,2,3) - 
23:32 CloudSplash16: mm.. this is a bit difficult to explain
23:32 SoGa: 00:20:376 (3) -
23:32 SoGa: i want to change this rhythm
23:33 CloudSplash16: oh ok
23:33 CloudSplash16: but just let me tell you as a tip, for future maps
23:33 CloudSplash16: when you make this kind of slider end stack, 
23:33 SoGa: ok
23:34 CloudSplash16: it's better to make some angle between the two sliders
23:34 CloudSplash16: like this: http://puu.sh/hfApZ/7b075abf08.jpg
23:34 CloudSplash16: sharper angle
23:34 CloudSplash16: it looks better that way
23:35 SoGa: ohh
23:35 SoGa: what was the old one
23:35 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfAtq/d3443ed293.jpg
23:36 CloudSplash16: ah.. i rotated it a bit, but you should still be able to see that the angle I made is sharper
23:36 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfAwe/790df20af1.png
23:36 SoGa: gg
23:36 CloudSplash16: lol
23:36 SoGa: ok , i saw it now
23:37 CloudSplash16: 00:25:103 (4,1) - For overlap, it's best to do half overlap
23:38 SoGa: half overlap ?
23:38 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfABd/ce0625cc42.jpg
23:38 SoGa: idk how to overlap tho
23:38 SoGa: oh , the current one is too much ?
23:38 CloudSplash16: yeah, do you see in my picture
23:38 SoGa: sure
23:38 CloudSplash16: about half of the slider end and about half of the slider body
23:39 SoGa: so , the point has to be in the white line
23:39 SoGa: something like dat?
23:39 CloudSplash16: it looks best that way, yes
23:39 SoGa: ok
23:40 CloudSplash16: 00:32:194 (4,5,1) - 
23:41 CloudSplash16: you see that (4) is overlapping with more than one section of (1)?
23:41 CloudSplash16: It's ok, but I recommend to avoid this kind of complex overlap.
23:42 CloudSplash16: maybe do something like this: http://puu.sh/hfAMp/7d7f7a6d80.jpg
23:42 CloudSplash16: this one is not that important though
23:42 SoGa: eh
23:42 SoGa: idk , i just followed this ds
23:42 SoGa: 00:31:830 (2,3,4) -
23:43 SoGa: well , fixed anyway xD
23:43 CloudSplash16: hmm? I mean you can Move (5,1)
23:44 CloudSplash16: 00:36:376 (4,1) - you can make this more perfect
23:44 SoGa: ahhh
23:44 SoGa: how to make it perfect
23:45 SoGa: 1st time use this kind of blanket tho
23:45 SoGa: learned from death's az map
23:45 CloudSplash16: every part should be equal distance
23:46 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfAZ0/82bea0b11c.jpg
23:46 CloudSplash16: ah sorry, even mine is not perfect...
23:47 CloudSplash16: here: http://puu.sh/hfB0O/0288a9c9ed.jpg
23:47 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfB1O/932c5bd73f.jpg
23:47 SoGa: kinda hard ..
23:47 CloudSplash16: ok, that's better.
23:48 CloudSplash16: now,
23:48 CloudSplash16: make the distance between 00:37:103 (1,3) - 
23:48 CloudSplash16: the same as 00:36:376 (4,1) - 
23:48 SoGa: done !
23:49 SoGa: 00:38:558 (1,2,3,4) -  is this ds consider too large ?
23:49 CloudSplash16: no, it's fine
23:49 CloudSplash16: actually, this pattern looks very good.
23:49 CloudSplash16: do you see why?
23:50 CloudSplash16: :)
23:50 SoGa: same ds and blanket ?
23:50 CloudSplash16: well, not "ds"
23:51 SoGa: 00:39:103 (2,3) -  i drew a 1/1 slider to make it
23:51 CloudSplash16: mm.. that's not what i mean.
23:51 CloudSplash16: it looks good because:
23:51 SoGa: ;w;
23:51 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfBdy/5a2f89e717.jpg
23:51 CloudSplash16: these distances are all the same
23:52 CloudSplash16: not the same as "ds"
23:52 SoGa: ur same as Popner tho
23:52 CloudSplash16: ?
23:53 SoGa: popner also told me that
23:53 SoGa: lel
23:53 CloudSplash16: it's because it's true xD
23:53 SoGa: my 1st ranked map , the kiai part is made like dat tho
23:53 SoGa: ww
23:54 CloudSplash16: 00:42:012 (4,5) - Can improve blanket here
23:55 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfBmz/bb3d5746d2.jpg
23:57 SoGa: okay fixed
23:57 CloudSplash16: k show me a screenshot with 00:42:012 (4,5,1) - 
23:58 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfBuE/2ecdc6f6c7.jpg
23:58 CloudSplash16: and include (1)
23:58 CloudSplash16: in same screenshot
23:59 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfBxV/f7666ef2c2.jpg
23:59 CloudSplash16: ok good
23:59 SoGa: xD
23:59 SoGa: actually i move （1） a bit to the right when u said in same screenshoot
23:59 CloudSplash16: that's good :)
23:59 CloudSplash16: that's what i was going to tell you to do xD
00:00 SoGa: ;w; , im learning !
00:00 SoGa: sugoi
00:00 CloudSplash16: 00:43:285 (3,5) - 
00:00 CloudSplash16: (blanket)
00:01 SoGa: done
00:02 CloudSplash16: 00:47:285 (1,2,3,4) - I actually like the flow here, but I think many people will say it looks bad
00:02 SoGa: 00:50:194 (1,2) -
00:02 SoGa: 00:50:558 (2,3) -
00:02 SoGa: should i change this one
00:02 SoGa: i want to ctrl g this 2
00:03 SoGa: then move 00:51:285 (4) - to the left center bart direction to (1)
00:03 SoGa: eh , i like it too , not fixing that one yet .-.
00:03 CloudSplash16: k show me?
00:03 CloudSplash16: for 00:50:194 (1,2,3,4) - 
00:04 SoGa: give me a sec
00:04 SoGa: i think i got 2 options ..
00:04 CloudSplash16: I have something in mind too
00:06 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfBRq/4e506da574.jpg
00:06 SoGa: maybe something like this is better?
00:06 CloudSplash16: yeah, that is better
00:06 CloudSplash16: here's what I was thinking: http://puu.sh/hfBTK/3a5e914d5f.jpg
00:07 CloudSplash16: but yours is good too
00:07 SoGa: ur one seems more aesthetic , but think 4 to 1 a little bit far maybe ?
00:07 SoGa: i remember someone did mentioned this part too
00:07 SoGa: tho
00:08 CloudSplash16: then how's this? http://puu.sh/hfBZq/ccc3fc3410.jpg
00:08 CloudSplash16: but then have to move 00:51:649 (1) - 
00:08 CloudSplash16: so probably your way is better, so you don't have to change as much
00:08 SoGa: ok , i will keep it
00:09 SoGa: 00:53:649 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:09 SoGa: should i spread it ..
00:10 CloudSplash16: I think it's fine
00:10 CloudSplash16: it plays really nice
00:10 SoGa: ;w;
00:10 SoGa: fycho always spreads jump
00:11 CloudSplash16: spread out will look cleaner, but I like your current jump pattern.
00:11 CloudSplash16: I would keep it :P
00:11 SoGa: ok
00:11 SoGa: keep
00:11 SoGa: :d
00:12 CloudSplash16: 00:58:194 (3,1) - Maybe this can be a blanket
00:12 SoGa: eh , i didnt blanket it ?
00:13 SoGa: fix!
00:14 CloudSplash16: 00:58:558 (4,2) - 
00:14 SoGa: blanket
00:15 CloudSplash16: mm ok, 
00:15 CloudSplash16: i want to see how this part looks
00:15 CloudSplash16: after you did those blankets
00:15 SoGa: is this consider look bad
00:15 SoGa: 00:58:921 (1,3,4) -
00:15 CloudSplash16: i don't know how it looks now, after you fixed the blankets :P
00:16 SoGa: if it look bad , i will change it blanket 00:59:649 (3,1) - this group and move (4) upside
00:16 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfCmZ/0d33490cb4.jpg
00:21 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfCzI/aa2b17eeb0.jpg
00:21 SoGa: ahhh
00:21 SoGa: good way !
00:22 CloudSplash16: do you see where I put the circle (4)? :P
00:22 SoGa: no
00:22 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfCEn/f8fc510df6.jpg
00:23 SoGa: stack with 1 ?
00:23 CloudSplash16: yes
00:23 CloudSplash16: that way, it's like pattern with 01:00:012 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - 
00:24 SoGa: cool
00:24 SoGa: more flow and aesthetic now
00:25 CloudSplash16: 01:04:376 (4,1) - I feel that the flow here is a bit awkward.
00:25 CloudSplash16: The jump is harsh
00:26 SoGa: what if i put it like this
00:26 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfCMN/7d47f368d3.jpg
00:26 CloudSplash16: that's a bit better
00:26 CloudSplash16: but how about this? http://puu.sh/hfCPr/0c4788740d.jpg
00:28 SoGa: oh
00:28 CloudSplash16: yours is ok too. choose whichever way you like.
00:29 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfCVj/c329b8abe3.jpg
00:30 CloudSplash16: ok
00:31 CloudSplash16: 01:07:467 (1,2,3) - Looks better if you make the spacing a little bit smaller, and straight
00:31 SoGa: or maybe just stack it ?
00:31 CloudSplash16: That works too
00:32 SoGa: stack
00:32 CloudSplash16: 01:08:012 (4) - Looks better if you make it the same shape as (3)
00:33 CloudSplash16: like this maybe http://puu.sh/hfD86/93e7ce0651.jpg
00:34 SoGa: but i blanket this
00:34 SoGa: 01:08:012 (4,7) -
00:34 CloudSplash16: oh
00:34 CloudSplash16: I would prefer to use same slider shape for (3,4)
00:35 CloudSplash16: but if you want to keep your blanket, that's ok too
00:35 CloudSplash16: then make your blanket cleaner.
00:35 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfDck/a9bb62c372.jpg
00:35 SoGa: well
00:35 SoGa: i will make it the same slider
00:35 SoGa: ;w;
00:38 CloudSplash16: 01:12:012 (1,4) - Make this half overlap
00:39 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfDnA/679ff49aec.jpg
00:39 SoGa: ya , i did it
00:39 SoGa: half of them
00:40 SoGa: 01:12:921 (5,2) - this too
00:40 SoGa: 01:13:467 (1,5) -  and this one tho
00:40 SoGa: 01:15:467 (4,6) -
00:40 SoGa: ;w;
00:41 CloudSplash16: 01:15:649 (5,6) - Give them the same shape
00:42 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfDuA/b0e95d2dee.jpg
00:43 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfDy3/499b0fe6a0.jpg
00:43 CloudSplash16: ok
00:44 CloudSplash16: 01:16:376 (1,3) - Make a cleaner blanket
00:44 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfDB4/f5077e2496.jpg
00:45 SoGa: done
00:45 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfDDV/722ecf5b69.jpg
00:46 CloudSplash16: 01:22:558 (2) - 
00:46 CloudSplash16: Move like this.. maybe: http://puu.sh/hfDHb/1eaf7ac212.jpg
00:47 SoGa: hm
00:47 CloudSplash16: the blanket is less important.
00:48 SoGa: 01:23:649 (1,2) - same shape here right
00:48 CloudSplash16: yeah
00:49 SoGa: 01:23:103 (4) -
00:49 SoGa: should i stack this with 01:23:103 (4,1) -
00:49 SoGa: or blanket with 01:22:558 (2,4) -
00:50 CloudSplash16: did you move 01:22:558 (2) - like i said?
00:51 CloudSplash16: can do this: http://puu.sh/hfDSf/d3cda75e1e.jpg
00:51 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfDSs/8fe89e690b.jpg
00:52 CloudSplash16: see my screenshot for my suggestion^
00:53 SoGa: saw
00:53 SoGa: i will ust it
00:53 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfDY0/debc76bf5e.jpg
00:53 CloudSplash16: ok
00:54 CloudSplash16: If I mapped this song, i would slow down sv at 01:25:103 -
00:55 CloudSplash16: but don't mind... it's just style difference
00:55 CloudSplash16: 01:26:558 (1,4) - Make cleaner blanket
00:57 SoGa: ok
00:57 SoGa: i rotate this one
00:57 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfE7v/6ba8d3bd5a.jpg
00:57 SoGa: 01:29:830 (2,3) -
00:57 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfE8k/84e5e928fd.jpg
00:59 CloudSplash16: nice
00:59 CloudSplash16: just for fun.. lol
00:59 CloudSplash16: 01:27:285 (4,1) - 
00:59 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfEdM/998b32ba27.jpg
00:59 CloudSplash16: xD
01:00 SoGa: it was stacked T.T
01:00 SoGa: forget to stack it back after i made the blanket ;w;
01:00 CloudSplash16: oh
01:01 SoGa: 233
01:01 CloudSplash16: it was perfect stack like that? xD
01:01 SoGa: ye
01:01 CloudSplash16: nice
01:01 SoGa: i think im sure improve learning with master cs16
01:02 CloudSplash16: lol
01:02 SoGa: ;w;
01:03 CloudSplash16: 01:35:285 (1) - 
01:03 SoGa: actually i dont know how to draw reverse slider
01:03 SoGa: i saw fycho sometimes use this kind of reverse slide , so i use it
01:03 CloudSplash16: ok
01:03 CloudSplash16: do distance like this: http://puu.sh/hfEnx/2c5f724175.jpg
01:04 SoGa: 01:05:830 (3) - like this one tho
01:04 CloudSplash16: the slider shape is ok
01:04 SoGa: ok
01:05 CloudSplash16: just do the same distance as 01:34:376 (3,4) - 
01:05 SoGa: a square ;w;
01:06 CloudSplash16: well,
01:06 SoGa: 01:34:921 (5,1) - but if i made this one the same ds as 01:34:376 (3,4) -
01:06 CloudSplash16: I think it's better for 01:34:921 (5,1) - to have large spacing
01:06 CloudSplash16: because (1) is a strong note
01:06 SoGa: is not it sound weird cuz 01:35:285 (1) -  is down beat ?
01:06 SoGa: ya , dat what i wanted to say 2
01:06 CloudSplash16: http://puu.sh/hfEvi/35bb3b1ffc.jpg
01:06 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfEvA/01b80361d0.jpg
01:07 CloudSplash16: ok
01:08 SoGa: ok
01:09 CloudSplash16: 00:20:376 (3,4,5,6) - 
01:09 SoGa: 00:20:376 (3,4,5,6) -
01:09 SoGa: i wanted to say it 2
01:09 CloudSplash16: I think it's better for
01:09 SoGa: i used this rhythm
01:09 CloudSplash16: (4,5)
01:09 CloudSplash16: to stack on (6)
01:09 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfEC0/a46650046a.jpg
01:09 SoGa: ah , did u uploaded?
01:09 CloudSplash16: yeah
01:10 SoGa: 4-5 stack on 6
01:10 CloudSplash16: yes,
01:10 SoGa: should i move it closer?
01:10 CloudSplash16: because
01:11 SoGa: i dont really know spacing of this kind of rhythm
01:11 SoGa: not used to use it
01:11 CloudSplash16: (5,6) is quarter beat
01:11 SoGa: tho
01:11 CloudSplash16: it's really hard if you have circle to slider 1/4 beat, spaced out.
01:11 CloudSplash16: better this way: http://puu.sh/hfEH6/fb62e11520.jpg
01:12 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfEHU/6813804ad1.jpg
01:12 CloudSplash16: yeah
01:12 SoGa: dk if it too large
01:13 SoGa: ;w;
01:13 CloudSplash16: ok then maybe http://puu.sh/hfEM2/230ced396e.jpg
01:14 SoGa: much confusing ww
01:17 SoGa: then i cant pass my diff
01:17 CloudSplash16: D:
01:19 CloudSplash16: I just think 00:20:649 (5,6) - distance is too big
01:19 CloudSplash16: for circle to slider
01:20 SoGa: eh?
01:20 SoGa: http://puu.sh/hfF3C/230a6e871c.jpg
01:20 CloudSplash16: oh, you changed it
01:21 SoGa: ;w;
01:22 CloudSplash16: 00:50:194 (1,2,3,4) - Did you get your hitsounds here?
01:22 CloudSplash16: (3,4) feels empty
01:23 SoGa: ya
01:23 SoGa: i testplay and notice dat
01:24 CloudSplash16: ok
01:25 CloudSplash16: I think the map looks better now than before.
01:26 SoGa: a lot
01:26 SoGa: xD
01:26 SoGa: and i hve learn many things too !
01:26 SoGa: Thanks so much , post it ;w;
01:26 CloudSplash16: ok :)

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