1. Waiting (5,21 stars, 1189 notes)

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

how about adding -M4x in tags since he did a section of the map?
combo colors missing btw

dont kd

Arutsuki wrote:

hi o/ m4m
Waiting

•00:41:413 (3,2) - could get rid of this messy overlap Not even noticeable, so why should I bother?
•00:45:413 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - not sure why this is gradually increasing in spacing while the song isn't Well, because its the build-up before the kick comes in??
•00:46:813 (8,9,1) - this is 1/8 I dont intend to ruin the build-up with an 1/8 pattern
•00:48:413 (8,1) - this too^
•00:48:913 (4) - 00:49:413 (1) - why blue tick turns when literally the next one is a regular white/red one :< makes it look really lazy and inconsistent in terms of emphasis Fixed the blue turn thingy
•00:49:813 (5) - and why no turn here? the whole stream would be better imo if it had a turn every 5th note, whilst gradually lowering the spacing each turn There is a turn after it
•00:50:813 - missed a sound here Because I was focusing on the vocals
•00:51:813 - i think this section would be way more fun if you made at least some of the 3/4s actually clickable I had many testplayers, and they liked how it started there
•00:56:413 (7) - this is 1/8 as well, not 1/6 Its 1/6
•01:00:913 (4) - no sound here? There is
•01:04:213 (7) - ^, i think if you made 01:04:113 (6) - a 1/8 or 1/4 kickslider it would fit better with the sound it's mapped to Made it into a 1/2 slider
•01:07:679 (7,8,1) - 1/8 again Nope
•01:08:713 (6) - no sound There is a vocal chop on it
•01:09:813 (3,2) - removing these would make the jumps more fun, having to actually read it rather than mindlessly clicking 1/2s to almost no sound But there is a sound, so I'll keep it.
•01:28:413 (7,8,9) - 1/8 again Nope
•01:39:813 (1,2,3,4) - using kicks on the same sounds you used circles on before just makes for bad structure Its more intense there than before so kicksliders are justified. I dont know what you mean with bad structure
•01:40:913 (4) - another blue tick turn : ( And it doesnt really matter
•02:11:813 - the triples in this section feel way better to play now that they're actually mapped to audible sounds as opposed to most of the ones before I didn't really overmap before, there were sounds on the triples.
•02:39:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - these are moved by two ticks,,, the sounds are on 02:38:813 - 02:38:913 - 02:39:013 - as mapped previously, if this is done to add variation you can do something else than inaccurate rhythm "inaccurate ryhtm" nah. Its there to emphasize the strong melodic sound
•02:58:013 (8,9,1) - more 1/8s hooray Nope, still 1/6 Hooray
•03:00:313 (6) - more blue tick turns hooray Hooray
•03:07:813 - this section just proves that the triples at the start were mapped to next to nothing, since this section has the exact same sounds just a bit more intense. though i'd take overmapped triples instead of unnecessary jump spam any day then do just that, I wont cause the jumps fit with the song's atmosphere.
•03:25:413 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - now this is actually something cool and fun to play, consider changing the other streams to something like this as well No, but thanks
•03:53:413 (1,2,3) - another 1/8 still 1/6
•03:54:213 (1,2,3,4) - nothing to really map a burst on I really start to think youre deaf
•04:43:613 (8,9,10,1) - another one Another 1/6 one yeah
•main problems imo are mishearing the 1/8 bursts and lacking most solid rhythm and structure. Not really but okay lol

good luck ranking though

1. 00:42:113 (1) - i'd remove the NC and NC on 00:42:213 (2) - instead as u have done it like 00:45:213 (5,6,1) - even if it's different
2. 03:53:413 (1,2,3) - players might think that this is a 1/4 triplets here, but the rhythms aren't what they're gonna expect. 3 1/4 notes should help out in order to avoid a confusion from its timing there
3. 03:59:013 (1,2,1,2) - 03:59:813 (1,2,1,2) - isn't it supposed to be low first, then higher distance as u have done it like 03:11:013 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ?
4. 05:11:413 - u might wanna add a note here after a 3/4 slider since i know what u're following at there. should apply like 05:14:213 (1) - 05:15:813 (1) - to avoid misreading its timing there

SLM wrote:

I almost forgot about this ;-;


[Waiting]

* 00:40:613 (1) - 00:43:813 (1) - why 3/4 here? using 1/2s would be better for consistency unless there's a special reason for them. I kinda dislike 1/2 sliderspam, so I decided to put 3/4s there

* 00:53:813 (2,3) - I wish these were more close to each other like 00:52:213 (2,3) - or 00:55:413 (2,3) -
this jump kinda break the patteren-ness around this part imo Lowered the distance of 00:53:813 (2,3) -

* 01:09:413 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - ! cool Thanks!

* 01:15:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - how about ctrl+j-ing (and possibly rotating a bit) these? since you twisted the stream inward at 01:15:613 (7) -
http://puu.sh/ytOZ7/f86b680159.jpg I like it, good idea

* 01:23:413 (1) - this seems to lack emphasis, so how about moving (1) to somwhere around x:100 y:60? or ctrl+j-ing 01:23:013 (6,7,8) - ? If other modders mention this as well I'll change it~

* 04:38:613 (1) - and this ^ ^

* 01:29:413 (1,2,3) - how about using a special slider shape for these to express the huge sv change?
(for example http://puu.sh/ytPhf/43d0dbdaeb.jpg)
they almost look alike with 1/4s (01:25:613 (2) - ) Good Idea!

* 04:44:613 (1,3) - ^ ^

* 01:33:413 (1) - 01:34:613 (8) - I personally hope these to be spaced more I focused on the vocals at those parts, so I really wanna keep it like that

* 01:40:013 (2,4) - overlapping these is kinda mehh, especially because 01:39:813 (1,3) - these are not.
The sound 01:39:813 (1,2) - and 01:40:213 (3,4) - express should be same, but 01:40:213 (3,4) - is noticeably much close to each other.
so I would recommend to move (4) to somewhere around x:25 y:315 I really like it that way tbh

* just a suggestion, how about ctrl+g-ing 01:42:213 (1) - 01:43:813 (1) - 01:45:413 (1) - these?
I Personally think doing that would express the decreasing tension better.
(and also better flow with 01:46:213 (1) - ) Alright

* 01:50:213 (2) - remove NC since you didn't NC at 01:47:013 (2) - Yes

* 01:53:413 (2,3,4) - NC Ok

* 02:17:813 (5,6) - another personal suggestion(sry), how about sth like this? http://puu.sh/ytPMb/a38930021b.jpg
cuz the pitch change between (5)-(6) is much higher than (3)-(4) so I thought it would be nice to have them more different than being similar.
(like 03:34:213 (3,4,5,6) - ) I think the way that I have it already emphasizes it really well~ (And I really like that pattern)

* 02:26:213 (1) - why not end this at 02:26:813 - + clickable at 02:27:013 -, and suddenly change to 2/1?
feels a bit awkward since you placed clickables at every similar sounds. Lets see what others think~ Right now I think its pretty cool that way, but I get your issue with it

* 03:01:413 (1) - why separate this from the stream unlike 00:50:213 (9) - ? I get this part is more intense but they're not that much different imo. Its the last stream before the kiai, and its more intense as you said, so I really wanted to emphasize that last note before the climax comes in.

* 03:20:613 (1,2) - 04:02:213 (1,2) - circles would be better for consistency maybe? Lets see if others think the same~

* 04:13:613 (1) - remove NC like you did at 04:16:813 (2) - Yes

* 04:15:213 (5) - NC? (or at 04:15:013 (4) - ) Added NC at 04:15:013 (4) -

* 05:10:413 (7) - decrease spacing? the sound is not so big to deserve this much jump imo Okay



Cool map. Good luck!

lit120 wrote:

yo

[waiting]

1. 00:42:113 (1) - i'd remove the NC and NC on 00:42:213 (2) - instead as u have done it like 00:45:213 (5,6,1) - even if it's different Okay, I like it that way more as well
2. 03:53:413 (1,2,3) - players might think that this is a 1/4 triplets here, but the rhythms aren't what they're gonna expect. 3 1/4 notes should help out in order to avoid a confusion from its timing there So far testplayers did well there, will see what others think
3. 03:59:013 (1,2,1,2) - 03:59:813 (1,2,1,2) - isn't it supposed to be low first, then higher distance as u have done it like 03:11:013 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ? I dont know, this sounds different to me and I think that the way I did it fits more
4. 05:11:413 - u might wanna add a note here after a 3/4 slider since i know what u're following at there. should apply like 05:14:213 (1) - 05:15:813 (1) - to avoid misreading its timing there Its almost the same as the beginning to indicate that the end of the map is coming close~

seems clean enough for me though, so this is all i can do .-.

Hobbes2 wrote:

hi im late

00:49:013 (5) - considering the direction change here, one for 00:49:813 (5) - would be appropriate since it's very similar in the music. smth like this as an idea - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9792346 Okay
01:09:813 (3,2) - meldoy wise these notes are very unimportant, and I feel like they could be put on slider tails with the previous circles being sliderheads. I feel like it fits really well while playing. I dont want to put the snares sliderends here, I had it like that before and didn't like it because of how unfitting it felt.
01:41:013 (5) - the direction change being to this note is a bit weird to me, especially based on your previous stream setups. something like this makes more sense -https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9792354 Yep
01:47:013 (2,1,1,1) - this combo spam isnt really necessary. recommend adjusting your comboing in this area a lot. Okay
02:39:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this is not good, the triplets in the music are on the blue ticks that are unmapped, where the mapped triplets have no such sound. Remapped it
02:42:213 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - ^, etc. to see what i mean, compare these to 02:55:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Fixed them all
02:46:213 (1) - nc not needed Yep~
03:00:313 (6) - why is the direction change here and not 03:00:213 (5) - here? Yep

03:07:813 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - big issue with these, all of these jump sections i really think dont follow the music that well, the music has a triplet melody with notes on the blue tick so theres not really anything substantial to support these 1-2 jumps. this is a big issue for me, because you aren't really following the song at all for this section. I did it like that because I didnt want the first kiais to be filled with 1/4s. I've placed them at that last part of the 2nd kiai because I think that the music is way more intense there than before. To emphasize the music and intensenes (as well as to show the player that he is coming close to the end of the song's main part) I decided to add 1/4 objects there. In the 1st kiai and the first half of the 2nd kiai I mainly focused on the strong outstanding melodic sound which you can find on every (1) circle like here 03:55:813 (1) - I increased the distance between each object to show and emphasize the different pitch the melodics have. I hope you do understand now why I've mapped it the way I did. The 1st and the 1st half of the 2nd kiai are just a build-up for the final climax happening here 04:07:013 - introduced by the strong kicks here 04:07:013 (1,2,3) -
I had many testplayers aswell (roughly 8-9) and they all really enjoyed the 1/2 circles as well just thought I should add this~

this problem appears in the final kiai as well.

Overall not a bad map at all, and if you did something about those 1/2 circle rhythms that aren't appropriate I might be inclined to push this forward. but those stand out to me as a big issue that I think affects the map quality a lot. Thank you very much. And I hope the 1/2s now make more sense to you than before~

Hey lululu wrote:

M4M

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00:48:213 (7) - you put here that is very uncomfortable,move to x 338 y 26 Okay, moved it somewhere else though
00:51:013 (1) - I remember you can not use redline make SV change You can
01:01:013 (5) - NC and make a slow SV? I like it the way it is
01:15:513 (6,7) - there don't need a turning point Yes, vocals
01:46:213 (1) - move to x 310 y 291,make the follow like01:41:413 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - Okay
02:24:613 (10) - NC Ok
02:25:413 (1) - remove NC Yep
03:01:313 (8,1) - why this sample doesn't like 00:50:113 (8,9) - and 01:15:713 (8,9) - Cause its more intense and its the last stream before the climax
03:27:013 (1,1,1,1,1) - I think thhe distance should be smaller than smaller,because music is smaller than smaller too I think lower sv does the job pretty good already
03:53:413 (1,2,3) - wrong fit I think there is 1/8 Will see what others think :p
04:06:613 (1,2) - too far Reduced distance a bit
04:17:613 (1,2,3,4) - there should be smaller than smaller too I think it fits pretty well

GL

Yugu wrote:

m4m(Koiyuki and 1112's gd)
sry for toooooooooooooo late to mod your map

00:53:413 (1) - slider's head can stack on 00:51:813 (1) - this slider's end to look more clear But it isnt even noticeable while playing :<

02:48:613 (1,2,3) - why increase ds here , i think 02:48:413 (8,9,1) - 's ds is enough , 02:49:413 (4,5,6) - this part i think is ok but this part of music is not have obvious changes 02:48:613 (1,2,3) - Alright

03:59:013 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - this part of song weakened so this jump's ds is gradually smaller , 04:01:413 (5,6) - i think this ds is too big , in comparison . and the intensity of the song is not significantly enhanced imo Reduced spacing a bit

05:17:413 (1,2) - so far imo 05:16:413 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Really easy to hit though :p

nice map

emm , just a short mod cuz i can t find out more

gl!

Yahuri wrote:

m4m return from my q

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-the slider-slide sounds kinda weird especially in the softer parts. primarily 00:26:213 - 00:39:013, and 05:10:413 - end. u can silence the sliderslides there Added a hitsound for that
00:43:413 (4,2) - could be spaced out a bit more, visual spacing looks a bit too close imo Okay
01:23:813 (1,2) - strong note here 01:24:013. why not map this pattern like 01:17:413 (1,2,3,4)? To have a variety of patterns there
01:27:013 (1,2) and 01:36:613 (1,2) - ^
01:39:813 (1,2) - isnt this DS kinda high? its even bigger than this 01:39:413 (8,9) but also 1/4 I dont think its tii high because the drums are really intense there
01:40:013 (2,4) - 02:07:013 (3,4,1) - fix stack Fixed
01:52:613 (1,2) - doesnt flow that well here imo cuz of zigzaggy flow. would be better if 2 was ctrl+g, but then ull have to deal with spacing to 3 I think it flows really well
02:04:613 (3,1) - putting the head of 1 under 3 makes it a bit harder to read than the others, especially cuz the body of 1 flows left at first which is totally concealed under 3 Will see what others think
02:54:613 (4,2,3,4) - stack screws up the aesthetics, remove overlap Okay
03:26:913 (4,1) - jump is too big in comparison to beforehand, there isnt appropriate buildup into this. make the mini stream-jumps gradually bigger or make this jump smaller. Made the jump smaller
04:04:613 (5,6,7) - remove overlap They dont overlap o.o
04:07:613 - why skip over this note? To emphasize the impact of the strong drums more~

good luck!

Gabe wrote:

will be back

Gabe wrote:

*There are missing claps on: 03:04:613 (1) - 03:05:013 (3) - 03:05:413 (1) - 03:05:813 (1) - Fixed
*Whistle should be on 03:55:013 - instead of 03:55:413 - considering the whistles on 03:57:413 (1,2,3,4,5) - True
*04:15:013 (1) - I'd suggest to follow what you were doing with the previous objects by placing this circle in a linear flow with the previous slider. You can place it at x:256 y:41 Okay
*05:12:613 (1) - I know it's a slower part, but it would be looking so much better if the spacing would be different from the previous objects. Move it just a little so there's a significant distinction from both parts. For an example, you could be moving this slider to x:337 y:67. Please apply the same of all the other similar objects or new combos, in most cases. Good Idea

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Hobbes2 wrote:

i suppose i can heart this

03:25:413 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - feels like a bit of a diffspike because 1/4 jumps aren't really used a lot in this map, so especially the last bigger one i can imagine catching a player off guard.

Irreversible wrote:

dq to change preview point (as per req)