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Not comfortable putting someone at L-1 without getting some kind of response first.
Not comfortable putting someone at L-1 without getting some kind of response first.
Why are you so keen on lynching me?Raging Bull wrote:
Man vote frosting. He hates you.
what are you talking about?Static Noise Bird wrote:
Also I seriously wonder what the fuck is Frostings doing. If it's a "gut feeling", then it's a damn terrible one.
To analyze and compare your reads to your previous posts. No anomalies detected.Raging Bull wrote:
Hey gumica, you asked me for my reads. What do you intend to do with them?
Well, let's see;Sonatora wrote:
also any thoughts Gumica
callin ye out
More like did your one liners even add any new information or helped to scum-hunt. The answer is no.Navizel wrote:
One-sentence = scum
Walls = town
What kind of mentality is that.
useless one-liner WOW scummy as fuckDakeDekaane wrote:
I giggled
Again, that's your personal opinion of your ego, so I couldn't care less. And no, I've already said that I don't care for past games.Setsuen wrote:
That and one of his post stated "The fact that he was opposing Setsuen and made some sceptical and conclusive posts made him more townalike"" was absolutely ridiculous because arguing with me is NEVER a town read. Look how CB and Nav argued with me until the end of D1 in Lupus? Look how Zexion EVENTUALLY stopped D1 on Chaos bc he was town?
My post about lurking at the time was reffering to the duo of TN and Sephi, who were pretty much inactive since the beggining, with one or two posts. You can't really say they're scum based on that. I'm not saying they shouldn't be eliminated/modkilled if that's their playstyle, but that's certinly not a scum-alignment in their case. Maybe you should give me a SOLID evidence why it's a scum-alignment WITHOUT giving me any references to past games.Setsuen wrote:
Also not seeing lurking as a scum aligned tactic is like a way to protect yourself now seeing that you are HALF-Lurking Gumica.
This is why you aren't even in my null-town read.beeboy123 wrote:
Look guys I am town
Setsuen wrote:
Also have you seen any scum get mod killed for inactivity other than Nyquil? No. In fact scum WILL make sure they lurk but post ONE post so that they can't be mod killed. Which is also why I was on Sephibro case AGES AGO.
Null-scum can still be scumbeeboy123 wrote:
Why is Raging-Bull a null-scum on your list when you have a vote on him?
Raging Bull wrote:
Setsuen, the only player i ignored is probably you, but then you ignored my post about being humble and Sonatoras TLDR don't be a dick. So we're even.
Setsuen wrote:
More like did your walls even add any new information or helped to scum-hunt. The answer is no.Navizel wrote:
One-sentence = scum
Walls = town
What kind of mentality is that.
Yes, you'd be scum for that one fatal wall you'd have written every day, which by your standards, whould have been one entire osu! page long. The lack of time and activity itself isn't problematic if the general player has good arguments and solid ideas/proofs.Setsuen wrote:
Also fact:There are people who don't only post one post per day and you know that A LOT of people would have scum readed me if my activity level was like Sephibro. I like how you're dragging attention away from that when it's the truth.
Lurking on it's own is scummy, but it doesn't make the player scum. YOU see it like that. Not me. Which brings me back to my question that you avoided twice now: Care to explain with solid argument why Sephi/Tn are scums to you, without you referencing past games?Setsuen wrote:
Also all you're doing is just reinforcing the idea that lurking isn't scummy and scum aren't lurking. But they ARE. Evidence aren't even needed for this since ALL THE SCUMMY PEOPLE HERE ARE LURKING.
I'm not. You're just provocating, and I'm replying. I'm not the sort of person who would bow before you, under your threats.Setsuen wrote:
To make it worst, you're basically diverting attention from lurkers BACK to an argument with me again which is SCUMMY.
You're talking about...Sona right?Setsuen wrote:
Frosting-Lot of trolling, lot of devate whether he should be null-scum or null. It might be possible that he self-voted when I claimed my real role of Secret power VT so that he can "magically" make me assume that he's VT and generally ignore him seeing that I DO look at role possibility before deciding my scum read.
Right, so voting and saying Sephibro was a scum before he even confirmed? What was the other PART in that case? I see none.Setsuen wrote:
Your argument is horrible and lurking is only PART of the reason why they are scum. If you can't understand that just start sheeping instead of arguing.
Setsuen wrote:
@Frosting:What part of that post mentioned Sona? Even that trolling wasn't related to Sona. wut.
Frostings wrote:
when did I self-vote? I think I'm misreading something
You might want to reread your OWN ISO.Frostings wrote:
Vote: Frostings
So apparently you're not clever enough to read between the lines which is why you didn't realise I was trolling and getting town out or RVS then. much wow. fyi I can troll all the way until scums attack me which I'm sure they did.Gumica wrote:
Right, so voting and saying Sephibro was a scum before he even confirmed? What was the other PART in that case? I see none.
So yeah... Efficient method of yours my ass. Gut reading half of the players as scums, is from my PoV, weak. So no, i won't sheep you. You know well enough that our 2 decision and comprehension logics are way different. Convince me well enough, and I will vote for your reasons.
Yep, that's pretty much itSetsuen wrote:
It might be possible that he self-voted when I claimed my real role of Secret power VT so that he can "magically" make me assume that he's VT
You're making things complicated goddammitFrostings wrote:
@Navi I don't think SNB is scum, I just FoS to bother her
I think you misinterpreted meRaging Bull wrote:
Frosting, why did you bring up that people think Sonatora is more scummy? Im not singling you out. I read him as less scummy than you, but your post seems like you want to redirect suspicion on him.
Frostings wrote:
@Navi I don't think SNB is scum, I just FoS to bother her
Setsuens posts are a huge mass of null, but this line caught my attention, and I'm townreading him because of it - this is actually content, and I think scum-Setsuen could very well get by only spamming the usual "trust gut; I can and WILL out at least 1 scum EVERYTIME; scum come to me; in Lupus where Zexion was scum blahblah" stuff.Setsuen wrote:
beeboy123 is coming up with a reason for EVERYTHING. I wonder if this is HIS usual TOWNplay. Because this is getting suspicious as heck.beeboy123 wrote:
This matches there usual town play so I wouldn't worry about it
This reaction looks genuine, probably town.Navizel wrote:
If I flip town in this game, please get the fuck out already and admit that your gut read isn't always right.
Setsuen wrote:
if you're really town plz FOS Sephi
Um... tn5421 scummy much?tn5421 wrote:
Vote: SephiBRO
Sonatora wrote:
Vote: Sephibro
Lemme help ya there tn-senpai
well this is weird, something to keep in mind I guess..tn5421 wrote:
Sonatora what are you even doing?
Doesn't this attitude look a tad unnatural, announcing intent to place a second vote? null-scumStatic Noise Bird wrote:
But don't mind me voting you soon if that's how it is.
Can you explain this to me?Drezi wrote:
announcing intent to place a second vote?
What is this even. I WILL harass/tunnel ANYONE as long as I think they're scum. 10/10 you're asking Frosting to stop pestering you when you can jollywell ignore it and prove that you're town by scumhunting and THEN turning the attention back to Frosting after you establish yourself as a town. Of course, this is unlike me who CAN argue about it bc as stated no need to scum hunt. I'm a special case. Scum plz argue with me moar dun avoid me or I'll call you out for lurking!Static Noise Bird wrote:
I'd appreciate it if you stopped harassing people for no reason. Unless you're scum. In which case that's actually your job and you should in fact continue it. But don't mind me voting you soon if that's how it is.
Glad to see SOMEONE ELSE who forgot what they said. You claimed mod at like the start of the game. or did you forget?............Navizel wrote:
Read beeboy's ISO and apparently, he's not ok with lynching someone for bad play (Sonatora's) but he's fine with killing tn because of his inactivity. I don't get the non-mods thing. Probably nonPRs?
10/10 forgetfulness. Should I start suspecting Nav+Frosting more for FORGETTING what they stated at the start of the game? Even I can remember my 2-shoto CL fakeclaim until now z.zNavizel wrote:
Setsuen is actually scum 8DD
Navizel is actually a mod 8DDDDDDD
beeboy123 wrote:
I don't like how setsuen complains about indecisiveness yet was lynching someone who is null scum
I was trying to provoke tn to try and make him play
He posts a few after a long hiatus, and is upset that a vote on him hasn't been removed right away? Just because he returned, it doesn't change the reason for him being voted, namely that he HAD BEEN lurking, and if he planned on being active after that he shouldn't worry about Dake changing his opinion on his own with time. Even Dake told him to rant less about being voted, and post more content, but he keeps arguing the same point instead.tn5421 wrote:
Because you don't actually have a reason to be voting me anymore, but want to leave your vote on and hope it gets forgotten.DakeDekaane wrote:
Less rants more content pls
Why, I don't know. But it's strange that you would say it's explicitly a lurker vote and then not remove it when your target isn't lurking anymore.
If he's town why doesn't he try to contribute instead of complaining about votes on him, and why does he try to gain town cred by sheeping Setsuen when asked, trying to get on his good side? Also he bargains right away at the same time "Post and I'll consider removing this"..tn5421 wrote:
I can do you one better than that, setsuen.
Vote: SephiBRO
Post and I'll consider removing this.
I agree with your reasoning, that's why I don't have a solid townread on Dake, RB and NH, but there's no reason to get overly paranoid, it'd be pretty bad if we started overly suspecting everyone who looked town right now. Just be vary - keep options open that are technically still possible.Frostings wrote:
Still not sure what to think of Drezi, any scum can easily make a seemingly pro-town post like that
It's too late at D1 to do that unless Drezi is seem acting scummy/lurking. TOO BAD. SHOULD HAVE DONE IT 48HR+AGO SLOWPOKE.Sonatora wrote:
I got grudges on Drezi last time
does that mean I can voet him too setsuen
I feel like tn is copying my style of looking town. Unfortunately theo nly person who can be Town readed with that playstyle is me.Drezi wrote:
Even Dake told him to rant less about being voted, and post more content, but he keeps arguing the same point instead.
One of the MOST INVALID ARGUMENT ever if you're not null-scum/scum reading NH. NH did the SAME THING by bargaining that he would remove his vote on me if I stop walling. They call this "SELECTIVE ATTENTION" in Psychology and if NH/Drezi ever flip scum, It would be BENEFICIAL FOR TOWN IF THEY REMMEMBER THIS POST.Drezi wrote:
Also he bargains right away at the same time "Post and I'll consider removing this"..
Here's a nice theory. Scum makes a DUMB town argue with me. Jump on the Setsuen plz stop your wall argument with the dumb town and then once the argument stops and town FINALLY starts scumhunting, they hope that their PAST activity will save them from being scum readed. bc I get the feeling that now that the argument stopped, SOME people have started posting LESSER and LESSER in content.Drezi wrote:
I agree with your reasoning, that's why I don't have a solid townread on Dake, RB and NH, but there's no reason to get overly paranoid, it'd be pretty bad if we started overly suspecting everyone who looked town right now. Just be vary - keep options open that are technically still possible.
Here's the paranoid me saying that you're trying to delay town by not outing reads in hope that YOUR reads can be trusted. The good thing is that there's NO WAY scum can delay town ALL THE WAY until the DL. If they do, town should officially give up. Literally.beeboy123 wrote:
My reads are still being shipped please wait
COMPLETELY different cases, how can you fail to see that. NH wanted to stop you from walling long before, that was just an additional means to that end.Setsuen wrote:
One of the MOST INVALID ARGUMENT ever if you're not null-scum/scum reading NH. NH did the SAME THING by bargaining that he would remove his vote on me if I stop walling. They call this "SELECTIVE ATTENTION" in Psychology and if NH/Drezi ever flip scum, It would be BENEFICIAL FOR TOWN IF THEY REMMEMBER THIS POST.Drezi wrote:
Also he bargains right away at the same time "Post and I'll consider removing this"..
And no, even that's invalid, I've just replaced in.. I've read everything in one go, even if I missed something you can't really say that it was intentional, or selective attention.Setsuen wrote:
They call this "SELECTIVE ATTENTION" in Psychology
It's not exactly. Stay neutral. He's bouncing from null townn,null, and null-scum.Drezi wrote:
COMPLETELY different cases, how can you fail to see that. NH wanted to stop you from walling long before, that was just an additional means to that end.
In tn's case it's coming from nowhere, has no real intention (obviously Sephi would have had to start posting either way), it's just filler with a cautious-stayneutral tone.
But you're basically summarising things WAY too much that you're missing out the minor but IMPORTANT bits that would out a scum when combined together. Sure you might have readed everything but I don't think I can trust that you read it THAT carefully especially since SOME people can even forget what they themself stated at the start of the game.Drezi wrote:
And no, even that's invalid, I've just replaced in.. I've read everything in one go, even if I missed something you can't really say that it was intentional, or selective attention.
If I'm useless then I don't know what the other bunch of fluff posters are.Frostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
fuckingFrostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
You post less. Push attention to people who post lesser than you. Diversion much. For info posting less and pushing attention to other people who post less is scummy while posting a lot and pushing attention who post less is neutral.tn5421 wrote:
Or people that are posting even less than me.
Waiting.beeboy123 wrote:
My reads are still being shipped please wait
Explain this btw Sonatora. oh and also explain the clusterfuck you want to fix.Sonatora wrote:
fuckingFrostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
unbelievable
you're more useless than a fucking piece of empty bag of chip
Are you really that unconfident or are you really trying to delay your reads / make us ignore them?beeboy123 wrote:
If I post my reads they would probably be torn apart the people and if I FoS any scum there play style will change making me believe they are town.
Look how mean he isSonatora wrote:
fuckingFrostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
unbelievable
you're more useless than a fucking piece of empty bag of chip
I have no good reason to unvote him yetRaging Bull wrote:
@frosting i thought your reason for voting him was cause he gave up, but it doesnt look like it now, so why is your vote on him still?
This is a big ping. You would choose to lynch a townie even after knowing he's a townie? Hurts town "later in the game" is irrelevant if you lynch scum in the first place.Frostings wrote:
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
@NH: How is that weird when we're talking about a Policy Lynch here?Frostings wrote:
I wanted to PL Sona
because Setsuen can (omitted). Anyways Drezi is prooving to be a lot more townlike with his scepticism and investigative posts.Setsuen wrote:
Your argument is horrible and lurking is only PART of the reason why they are scum. If you can't understand that just start sheeping instead of arguing.
Setsuen wrote:
Sephi being replaced isn't going to change anything for your info. If He's scum Drezi is just going to continue the bad performance with LESS lurking only.
Im surprised you want to lynch town than push for one of your null scum read.Frostings wrote:
I have no good reason to unvote him yetRaging Bull wrote:
@frosting i thought your reason for voting him was cause he gave up, but it doesnt look like it now, so why is your vote on him still?
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
Where? Iirc, he only voted after Sonatora self voted and i dont think he pushed for it.beeboy123 wrote:
As much as a policy lynch on Sona is a waste of a lynch. It doesn't make me think Frostling is scum as he has been pushing this for awhile.
Idk hows that related. Does that mean you want to PL Sonatora? Cause it seems that way. FOS NavizelNavizel wrote:
Just a question, would you guys want BRBP to be alive and screw town later or kill him before he lays his eggs?