Frostings wrote:
@Navi I don't think SNB is scum, I just FoS to bother her
Setsuens posts are a huge mass of null, but this line caught my attention, and I'm townreading him because of it - this is actually content, and I think scum-Setsuen could very well get by only spamming the usual "trust gut; I can and WILL out at least 1 scum EVERYTIME; scum come to me; in Lupus where Zexion was scum blahblah" stuff.Setsuen wrote:
beeboy123 is coming up with a reason for EVERYTHING. I wonder if this is HIS usual TOWNplay. Because this is getting suspicious as heck.beeboy123 wrote:
This matches there usual town play so I wouldn't worry about it
This reaction looks genuine, probably town.Navizel wrote:
If I flip town in this game, please get the fuck out already and admit that your gut read isn't always right.
Setsuen wrote:
if you're really town plz FOS Sephi
Um... tn5421 scummy much?tn5421 wrote:
Vote: SephiBRO
Sonatora wrote:
Vote: Sephibro
Lemme help ya there tn-senpai
well this is weird, something to keep in mind I guess..tn5421 wrote:
Sonatora what are you even doing?
Doesn't this attitude look a tad unnatural, announcing intent to place a second vote? null-scumStatic Noise Bird wrote:
But don't mind me voting you soon if that's how it is.
Can you explain this to me?Drezi wrote:
announcing intent to place a second vote?
What is this even. I WILL harass/tunnel ANYONE as long as I think they're scum. 10/10 you're asking Frosting to stop pestering you when you can jollywell ignore it and prove that you're town by scumhunting and THEN turning the attention back to Frosting after you establish yourself as a town. Of course, this is unlike me who CAN argue about it bc as stated no need to scum hunt. I'm a special case. Scum plz argue with me moar dun avoid me or I'll call you out for lurking!Static Noise Bird wrote:
I'd appreciate it if you stopped harassing people for no reason. Unless you're scum. In which case that's actually your job and you should in fact continue it. But don't mind me voting you soon if that's how it is.
Glad to see SOMEONE ELSE who forgot what they said. You claimed mod at like the start of the game. or did you forget?............Navizel wrote:
Read beeboy's ISO and apparently, he's not ok with lynching someone for bad play (Sonatora's) but he's fine with killing tn because of his inactivity. I don't get the non-mods thing. Probably nonPRs?
10/10 forgetfulness. Should I start suspecting Nav+Frosting more for FORGETTING what they stated at the start of the game? Even I can remember my 2-shoto CL fakeclaim until now z.zNavizel wrote:
Setsuen is actually scum 8DD
Navizel is actually a mod 8DDDDDDD
beeboy123 wrote:
I don't like how setsuen complains about indecisiveness yet was lynching someone who is null scum
I was trying to provoke tn to try and make him play
He posts a few after a long hiatus, and is upset that a vote on him hasn't been removed right away? Just because he returned, it doesn't change the reason for him being voted, namely that he HAD BEEN lurking, and if he planned on being active after that he shouldn't worry about Dake changing his opinion on his own with time. Even Dake told him to rant less about being voted, and post more content, but he keeps arguing the same point instead.tn5421 wrote:
Because you don't actually have a reason to be voting me anymore, but want to leave your vote on and hope it gets forgotten.DakeDekaane wrote:
Less rants more content pls
Why, I don't know. But it's strange that you would say it's explicitly a lurker vote and then not remove it when your target isn't lurking anymore.
If he's town why doesn't he try to contribute instead of complaining about votes on him, and why does he try to gain town cred by sheeping Setsuen when asked, trying to get on his good side? Also he bargains right away at the same time "Post and I'll consider removing this"..tn5421 wrote:
I can do you one better than that, setsuen.
Vote: SephiBRO
Post and I'll consider removing this.
I agree with your reasoning, that's why I don't have a solid townread on Dake, RB and NH, but there's no reason to get overly paranoid, it'd be pretty bad if we started overly suspecting everyone who looked town right now. Just be vary - keep options open that are technically still possible.Frostings wrote:
Still not sure what to think of Drezi, any scum can easily make a seemingly pro-town post like that
It's too late at D1 to do that unless Drezi is seem acting scummy/lurking. TOO BAD. SHOULD HAVE DONE IT 48HR+AGO SLOWPOKE.Sonatora wrote:
I got grudges on Drezi last time
does that mean I can voet him too setsuen
I feel like tn is copying my style of looking town. Unfortunately theo nly person who can be Town readed with that playstyle is me.Drezi wrote:
Even Dake told him to rant less about being voted, and post more content, but he keeps arguing the same point instead.
One of the MOST INVALID ARGUMENT ever if you're not null-scum/scum reading NH. NH did the SAME THING by bargaining that he would remove his vote on me if I stop walling. They call this "SELECTIVE ATTENTION" in Psychology and if NH/Drezi ever flip scum, It would be BENEFICIAL FOR TOWN IF THEY REMMEMBER THIS POST.Drezi wrote:
Also he bargains right away at the same time "Post and I'll consider removing this"..
Here's a nice theory. Scum makes a DUMB town argue with me. Jump on the Setsuen plz stop your wall argument with the dumb town and then once the argument stops and town FINALLY starts scumhunting, they hope that their PAST activity will save them from being scum readed. bc I get the feeling that now that the argument stopped, SOME people have started posting LESSER and LESSER in content.Drezi wrote:
I agree with your reasoning, that's why I don't have a solid townread on Dake, RB and NH, but there's no reason to get overly paranoid, it'd be pretty bad if we started overly suspecting everyone who looked town right now. Just be vary - keep options open that are technically still possible.
Here's the paranoid me saying that you're trying to delay town by not outing reads in hope that YOUR reads can be trusted. The good thing is that there's NO WAY scum can delay town ALL THE WAY until the DL. If they do, town should officially give up. Literally.beeboy123 wrote:
My reads are still being shipped please wait
COMPLETELY different cases, how can you fail to see that. NH wanted to stop you from walling long before, that was just an additional means to that end.Setsuen wrote:
One of the MOST INVALID ARGUMENT ever if you're not null-scum/scum reading NH. NH did the SAME THING by bargaining that he would remove his vote on me if I stop walling. They call this "SELECTIVE ATTENTION" in Psychology and if NH/Drezi ever flip scum, It would be BENEFICIAL FOR TOWN IF THEY REMMEMBER THIS POST.Drezi wrote:
Also he bargains right away at the same time "Post and I'll consider removing this"..
And no, even that's invalid, I've just replaced in.. I've read everything in one go, even if I missed something you can't really say that it was intentional, or selective attention.Setsuen wrote:
They call this "SELECTIVE ATTENTION" in Psychology
It's not exactly. Stay neutral. He's bouncing from null townn,null, and null-scum.Drezi wrote:
COMPLETELY different cases, how can you fail to see that. NH wanted to stop you from walling long before, that was just an additional means to that end.
In tn's case it's coming from nowhere, has no real intention (obviously Sephi would have had to start posting either way), it's just filler with a cautious-stayneutral tone.
But you're basically summarising things WAY too much that you're missing out the minor but IMPORTANT bits that would out a scum when combined together. Sure you might have readed everything but I don't think I can trust that you read it THAT carefully especially since SOME people can even forget what they themself stated at the start of the game.Drezi wrote:
And no, even that's invalid, I've just replaced in.. I've read everything in one go, even if I missed something you can't really say that it was intentional, or selective attention.
If I'm useless then I don't know what the other bunch of fluff posters are.Frostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
fuckingFrostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
You post less. Push attention to people who post lesser than you. Diversion much. For info posting less and pushing attention to other people who post less is scummy while posting a lot and pushing attention who post less is neutral.tn5421 wrote:
Or people that are posting even less than me.
Waiting.beeboy123 wrote:
My reads are still being shipped please wait
Explain this btw Sonatora. oh and also explain the clusterfuck you want to fix.Sonatora wrote:
fuckingFrostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
unbelievable
you're more useless than a fucking piece of empty bag of chip
Are you really that unconfident or are you really trying to delay your reads / make us ignore them?beeboy123 wrote:
If I post my reads they would probably be torn apart the people and if I FoS any scum there play style will change making me believe they are town.
Look how mean he isSonatora wrote:
fuckingFrostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
unbelievable
you're more useless than a fucking piece of empty bag of chip
I have no good reason to unvote him yetRaging Bull wrote:
@frosting i thought your reason for voting him was cause he gave up, but it doesnt look like it now, so why is your vote on him still?
This is a big ping. You would choose to lynch a townie even after knowing he's a townie? Hurts town "later in the game" is irrelevant if you lynch scum in the first place.Frostings wrote:
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
@NH: How is that weird when we're talking about a Policy Lynch here?Frostings wrote:
I wanted to PL Sona
because Setsuen can (omitted). Anyways Drezi is prooving to be a lot more townlike with his scepticism and investigative posts.Setsuen wrote:
Your argument is horrible and lurking is only PART of the reason why they are scum. If you can't understand that just start sheeping instead of arguing.
Setsuen wrote:
Sephi being replaced isn't going to change anything for your info. If He's scum Drezi is just going to continue the bad performance with LESS lurking only.
Im surprised you want to lynch town than push for one of your null scum read.Frostings wrote:
I have no good reason to unvote him yetRaging Bull wrote:
@frosting i thought your reason for voting him was cause he gave up, but it doesnt look like it now, so why is your vote on him still?
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
Where? Iirc, he only voted after Sonatora self voted and i dont think he pushed for it.beeboy123 wrote:
As much as a policy lynch on Sona is a waste of a lynch. It doesn't make me think Frostling is scum as he has been pushing this for awhile.
Idk hows that related. Does that mean you want to PL Sonatora? Cause it seems that way. FOS NavizelNavizel wrote:
Just a question, would you guys want BRBP to be alive and screw town later or kill him before he lays his eggs?
I'm asking for prods because I want activity. Activity = longer deadline and more discussions to find the scums.beeboy123 wrote:
Navi - Doing nothing + asking for prods earlier made me think he wants to force mod kills so he could win easily.
hi rb and snbNavizel wrote:
Read beeboy's ISO and apparently, he's not ok with lynching someone for bad play (Sonatora's) but he's fine with killing tn because of his inactivity. I don't get the non-mods thing. Probably nonPRs?
Going back on this, it seems like you know hes town already.Frostings wrote:
I have no good reason to unvote him yetRaging Bull wrote:
@frosting i thought your reason for voting him was cause he gave up, but it doesnt look like it now, so why is your vote on him still?
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
That sounded more like past tense read than command reed. Idk about that. Im neutral in that for now.Navizel wrote:
hi rb and snbNavizel wrote:
Read beeboy's ISO and apparently, he's not ok with lynching someone for bad play (Sonatora's) but he's fine with killing tn because of his inactivity. I don't get the non-mods thing. Probably nonPRs?
Oh, makes more sense.Navizel wrote:
Just want you guys to know that I posted something regarding Sonatora and beeboy which means policy lynching Sonatora isn't for lulz. Then again, that's my last option.
Yes, actually I would PL a town. It's only D1, about three or four people scumread Sona and he already started talking about giving up. He basically refused to give his reads until RB pretty much forced him to. Even AFTER people townread him because of his terrible play, he STILL wanted to lynch himself. Sure we could try scum hunting, which I'm not suggesting we shouldn't do, but if we don't get anywhere then I'm suggesting Sona as an option. We could try letting Sona live for D2~D3 but obviously he isn't going to contribute and be pretty much useless.NoHitter wrote:
This is a big ping. You would choose to lynch a townie even after knowing he's a townie? Hurts town "later in the game" is irrelevant if you lynch scum in the first place.Frostings wrote:
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
Gumica wrote:
Also I've been rereading ISO's for the past hour (except Setsuen's, cause fuck that) and I really have to say that between all of the lurking and other accusations here, Frostings has just pulled the most scum-like post for my taste.
@Frostings; One shouldn't Policy Lynch out of that kind of idea. That's like saying we always have to PL Setsuen on D1 for retarded walling. Nobody likes it, but it's not an argument for a lynch. Thus your lynch on Sonatora is without any legitimacy. Using Self-vote for the excuse to retain your vote on him till, isn't really acceptable. Do you have any other valid reasons for your vote, or is it plainly Policy Lynch based?
I played with Sona in basically every mafia game I've joined here, it pretty much always happens.Gumica wrote:
Same as with Frostings, Navizel. You've got no superhuman abilities to the future.
Raging Bull wrote:
Im surprised you want to lynch town than push for one of your null scum read.
In one game BRBP, a VT, pretty much single handedly lost town the game by being alive until the endgame, posting absolute nonsense. It was because town was afraid of PL...Raging Bull wrote:
Idk hows that related. Does that mean you want to PL Sonatora? Cause it seems that way. FOS NavizelNavizel wrote:
Just a question, would you guys want BRBP to be alive and screw town later or kill him before he lays his eggs?
PLEASE try harder. Do you ever post insightful content or do you always sheep every game?DakeDekaane wrote:
Thinking it better, I can also ride the Frostings bandwagon /o/
Raging Bull wrote:
Going back on this, it seems like you know hes town alreadyFrostings wrote:
I have no good reason to unvote him yet
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
I hope some town remember that newbie mafia where Nav+Cts won as scum bc Cth avoided the lynch D1............Gumica wrote:
Your past games aren't basis for your vote. I won't accept the reason for vote a past game.
As for the Sonatora, he stopped that behaviour. People stopped suspecting Sephibro/Drezi, when he stopped lurking, so...
How about you comment about Frosting instead of other stuff.Setsuen wrote:
I hope some town remember that newbie mafia where Nav+Cts won as scum bc Cth avoided the lynch D1............Gumica wrote:
Your past games aren't basis for your vote. I won't accept the reason for vote a past game.
As for the Sonatora, he stopped that behaviour. People stopped suspecting Sephibro/Drezi, when he stopped lurking, so...
Stopping behaviour =/= not scum in fact, I would suspect them more until they prove that they can hold that behaviour for a VERY LONG TIME.
Raging Bull wrote:
Im not PLing someone who already improved their behavior.
Sonatora wrote:
I'm not trolling there.
I really wanted to get lynched off but I have to fix this clusterfuck first
Congrats.Frostings wrote:
Please congratulate me
I haven't played games here in so long that I don't always remember to check every day.Setsuen wrote:
You post less. Push attention to people who post lesser than you. Diversion much. For info posting less and pushing attention to other people who post less is scummy while posting a lot and pushing attention who post less is neutral.tn5421 wrote:
Or people that are posting even less than me.
watFrostings wrote:
Yes, actually I would PL a town. It's only D1, about three or four people scumread Sona and he already started talking about giving up. He basically refused to give his reads until RB pretty much forced him to. Even AFTER people townread him because of his terrible play, he STILL wanted to lynch himself. Sure we could try scum hunting, which I'm not suggesting we shouldn't do, but if we don't get anywhere then I'm suggesting Sona as an option. We could try letting Sona live for D2~D3 but obviously he isn't going to contribute and be pretty much useless.NoHitter wrote:
This is a big ping. You would choose to lynch a townie even after knowing he's a townie? Hurts town "later in the game" is irrelevant if you lynch scum in the first place.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not tunneling on Sona, I've been trying to find potential scum as well, but Sona isn't in my town read.
Posting more in a sec...
Yeah this is totally subjective, but the way he just jumped on the wagon and phrased this, and posted only fluff since then just pushed my null-scum read further.Static Noise Bird wrote:
We still have quite a lot time for analyzing, but... wait. There's a train already going on? Don't leave me out, guys!
Vote: Frostings
It's like you didn't even read the rest of that posttn5421 wrote:
watFrostings wrote:
Yes, actually I would PL a town. It's only D1, about three or four people scumread Sona and he already started talking about giving up. He basically refused to give his reads until RB pretty much forced him to. Even AFTER people townread him because of his terrible play, he STILL wanted to lynch himself. Sure we could try scum hunting, which I'm not suggesting we shouldn't do, but if we don't get anywhere then I'm suggesting Sona as an option. We could try letting Sona live for D2~D3 but obviously he isn't going to contribute and be pretty much useless.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not tunneling on Sona, I've been trying to find potential scum as well, but Sona isn't in my town read.
Posting more in a sec...
are you serious?