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Michael Jackson - You Rock My World

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Breeze
osu! Alumni
4,949 posts
Joined March 2009
Breeze
[General]
  1. Please delete osb.file since it's not used
  2. countdown in normal is used while in Hard is not, please unify them
  3. pop, michael jackson need not to add to tag since pop would add to Genre after ranked and michael jackson is inclued in artist
[Normal]
  1. hit volume seem loud, try 60 like DJPop said
  2. I feel it's lack of hitsound, try to find some custom sound if possible
  3. Easier diff. doesn't mean shorter, why not map it to end?
[Hard]
  1. 01:55:379 (3) - I don't think whistle fit here
  2. 03:16:221 2xBPM - I think this part need a note to show "it's 2xBPM", it comes unexcepted
  3. Still feel lack of hitsound
star
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys

Breeze wrote:

[General]
  1. Please delete osb.file since it's not used : already
  2. countdown in normal is used while in Hard is not, please unify them : i make it the same
  3. pop, michael jackson need not to add to tag since pop would add to Genre after ranked and michael jackson is inclued in artist : oh i see
[Normal]
  1. hit volume seem loud, try 60 like DJPop said : Roger
  2. I feel it's lack of hitsound, try to find some custom sound if possible : I don't know how to put in the custom sound, but can i put whistle or clap inshead?
  3. Easier diff. doesn't mean shorter, why not map it to end? : ok I agree
[Hard]
  1. 01:55:379 (3) - I don't think whistle fit here : ok i agree
  2. 03:16:221 2xBPM - I think this part need a note to show "it's 2xBPM", it comes unexcepted : ok already put in (I'm already put it in, but it missing, i don't know why
  3. Still feel lack of hitsound : ok working on it
star
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys
Thanks for mod, Cheedar
i'm done what u mod alredy
Tanmak
896 posts
Joined August 2009
Tanmak
Star~

IRC Mod
[Normal]
(00:32:009 (1) - unsnapped)

Good~
Natteke
6,538 posts
Joined August 2009
Natteke
Hi.

[Normal]

Cool, but it sounds poor without any hitsounds, try to use more hitclaps.


[Hard]

Looks fine!

Star.
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
James2250
osu! Alumni
4,059 posts
Joined July 2008
James2250
Preview point on normal:115377
Preview point on hard: 114432 make sure they are the same
cut any of the mp3 you are not using
delete osb from folder and do full submit

Normal:
01:15:590 (2,4) - could be stacked slightly better (turn off grid snap)
01:18:748 (3) - move 1 tiny grid left and 1 tiny grid up to align with 2 and 4
01:56:011 (6) - new combo?
01:57:906 (1,2) - switch new combo
02:03:274 (6) - stack on top of 2

Hard:
01:03:906 (1,2,3) - stack these better (turn off grid snap)
01:07:063 (5) - stack on top of 2
03:17:484 (3) - stack above 1
03:17:169 (4,5) - stack better
03:29:169 (1,2,3) - move down 1 tiny grid
03:29:800 (4) - ^
03:30:432 (5,6,7,8) - ^

*star*
Breeze
osu! Alumni
4,949 posts
Joined March 2009
Breeze
You still didn't delete osb.file, please delete it
SPOILER




Download: Michael Jackson - You Rock My World (termerys) [Hard].osu
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys
um, i got the storyboard, so i can't delete it
so, now i'm working with .mp3 cutting and hit sound
i've finished James2250's modding
thanks for modding everyone
YGOkid8
osu! Alumni
2,729 posts
Joined February 2009
YGOkid8
don't have time to check, but in case you don't know...

the .osb file is the storyboard file that applies to all difficulties. So if you only had storyboard for one diff, then delete .osb and full submit <-- This is important. If it does apply to all diffs, then keep it.

Note: Background doesn't count as storyboard unless you did stuff with it.
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys
don't have time to check, but in case you don't know...

the .osb file is the storyboard file that applies to all difficulties. So if you only had storyboard for one diff, then delete .osb and full submit <-- This is important. If it does apply to all diffs, then keep it.

Note: Background doesn't count as storyboard unless you did stuff with it
ok, i get it, but when i delete it, and full submitted, it came out of nowhere.

= ="
how should i do?
YGOkid8
osu! Alumni
2,729 posts
Joined February 2009
YGOkid8
you probably did something with the storyboard afterwards or something. when making difficulty specific storyboard, make sure you set the "Diff. Specific" box BEFORE you exit the design tab. Otherwise, the .osb will come back. Or that's how it goes for me anyway.

If that doesn't work, I dunno, you'll need to ask someone with more experience >.<
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys

YGOkid8 wrote:

you probably did something with the storyboard afterwards or something. when making difficulty specific storyboard, make sure you set the "Diff. Specific" box BEFORE you exit the design tab. Otherwise, the .osb will come back. Or that's how it goes for me anyway.

If that doesn't work, I dunno, you'll need to ask someone with more experience >.<
ok i'll try it next week
thanks
Astom
1,588 posts
Joined October 2008
Astom
[Normal]

-99% Acc exactly lol, I don't see problems.

[Hard]

-90% =/ the final part of the song is ugly i don't like that speed in the sliders, try to keep the distance of circles but slow down the sliders.


I don't like Michael Jackson <.< but still, good map

Good luck and my star :3
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
Offset +10 (32 021)
then Timing -> Resnap All Notes

The mp3 that you are using is longer than the mapped part. Please crop the unmapped part.

The 2x warning appears on [Normal] too. Please delete the .osb file from the general folder and do the full submission. It won't matter if you cut the mp3, but you should do this.

Resnap all of the timing sections (or at least kiai starts/ends), example: 02:15:590 - the end of the kiai section is not centrainly on the tick.

This map is generally not hitsounded. Please add some samples (especially in the middle of the map).

[Normal]

Increase HP Drain by 1 or 2 ticks.

01:15:590 (2) - Curve it prettier? :P
01:35:169 (1) - I highly recommend you to make this slider 1x speed too and start the 0,5x section here: 01:36:432. It follows the beat and is more intuitive.
[01:56:642] - Move the start of the kiai section to this point.
01:58:537 (6) - New combo.
02:13:379 (6) - Delete last 2 repeats. Read the advice below.
02:14:327 (1) - Move the spinner 1/1 back.


[Hard]

Resnap all of the timing sections (or at least kiai starts/ends), example: 02:15:590 - the end of the kiai section is not centrainly on the tick.
Ah, the 2x timing section has ruined this map. It would be good with no spacing changes.

01:14:011 (1) - Move this spinner 1/4 back and expand it by 1/4. It sounds better.
01:36:432 (3) - New combo.
[01:56:642] - Move the start of the kiai section to this point.
02:35:800 (1) - I highly recommend you to make this slider 1x speed too and start the 0,5x section here: 02:37:063. It follows the beat.
02:37:063 (3) - New combo.
02:47:169 (3) - ^
02:54:748 (1) - Move this spinner 1/4 back and expand it by 1/4. It sounds better.
[02:57:274] - Move the start of the kiai section to this point.
03:20:800 (2) - Delete.
03:29:800 (4) - Align it with (4).
03:30:432 (5) - New combo.

The 2x speed section in [Hard] is a bit messy, but the map is fine in general.
+star
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
2,024 posts
Joined January 2009
Lybydose
well, fartownik already said a lot of things I was going to post, but I'll confirm that you really should change these things:

+8-9 offset

01:35:169 (1) - I highly recommend you to make this slider 1x speed too and start the 0,5x section here: 01:36:432. It follows the beat and is more intuitive.

02:35:800 (1) - I highly recommend you to make this slider 1x speed too and start the 0,5x section here: 02:37:063. It follows the beat.
In addition to that, you REALLY should change the dark blue and dark grey combo colors. They are really hard to see against the background.

Kiai is inconsistent between the two difficulties. Normal starts at 01:56:011, while Hard starts at 01:55:379. You should change normal so that it is the same as Hard.

This song is really begging for more clap hitsound use. Hear the sound at 00:55:379? You should use claps to sync to that sound. For most of the song, the pattern will simply be a clap every 2 beats. In addition, the hitsounds are hard to hear. Increase the volume on the soft hitsounds for both difficulties.

Hard:

01:57:590 (6) - I don't like the way this sounds. It seems like you are trying to follow the vocals, but the vocals are actually off-beat and don't really sync to the timeline. I think it sounds better if you just extend it 1/4.
02:07:695 (5) - ^
02:58:221 (6,7) - same as above, but you used circles here instead. I suggest adding a circle at 02:58:537 -
03:08:327 (6,7) - same, add circle at 03:08:642?
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys

fartownik wrote:

Offset +10 (32 021) i almost don't know the different, but it's better
then Timing -> Resnap All Notes done

The mp3 that you are using is longer than the mapped part. Please crop the unmapped part. It's a original one, so i don't want to crop it, it's not only that you download the song to play, but you still can listen and enjoy the song at once

The 2x warning appears on [Normal] too. Please delete the .osb file from the general folder and do the full submission. It won't matter if you cut the mp3, but you should do this. .osb deleted, .mp3 cutting^

Resnap all of the timing sections (or at least kiai starts/ends), example: 02:15:590 - the end of the kiai section is not centrainly on the tick. done

This map is generally not hitsounded. Please add some samples (especially in the middle of the map).will do

[Normal]

Increase HP Drain by 1 or 2 ticks. roger that

01:15:590 (2) - Curve it prettier? :P of corse!
01:35:169 (1) - I highly recommend you to make this slider 1x speed too and start the 0,5x section here: 01:36:432. It follows the beat and is more intuitive. WHY???
[01:56:642] - Move the start of the kiai section to this point. thanks
01:58:537 (6) - New combo. ok
02:13:379 (6) - Delete last 2 repeats. Read the advice below.
02:14:327 (1) - Move the spinner 1/1 back. ok


[Hard]

Resnap all of the timing sections (or at least kiai starts/ends), example: 02:15:590 - the end of the kiai section is not centrainly on the tick. done!
Ah, the 2x timing section has ruined this map. It would be good with no spacing changes. should i delete the 2x?

01:14:011 (1) - Move this spinner 1/4 back and expand it by 1/4. It sounds better. ok
01:36:432 (3) - New combo. ok
[01:56:642] - Move the start of the kiai section to this point. ok
02:35:800 (1) - I highly recommend you to make this slider 1x speed too and start the 0,5x section here: 02:37:063. It follows the beat. like i said on top
02:37:063 (3) - New combo. ok
02:47:169 (3) - ^ ^
02:54:748 (1) - Move this spinner 1/4 back and expand it by 1/4. It sounds better. actually, it's a original one, but vivere told me to do that (why should i do like him lol)
[02:57:274] - Move the start of the kiai section to this point. ok
03:20:800 (2) - Delete. Uninstall~~
03:29:800 (4) - Align it with (4).HOW?
03:30:432 (5) - New combo.ok

The 2x speed section in [Hard] is a bit messy, but the map is fine in general. Thanks for modded
+star +kudosu~
Last edited by termerys , edited 1 time in total.
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys

Lybydose wrote:

well, fartownik already said a lot of things I was going to post, but I'll confirm that you really should lolchange these things:

+8-9 offset i +10 offset =w=b

01:35:169 (1) - I highly recommend you to make this slider 1x speed too and start the 0,5x section here: 01:36:432. It follows the beat and is more intuitive. really?, i can play both of it >w<~

02:35:800 (1) - I highly recommend you to make this slider 1x speed too and start the 0,5x section here: 02:37:063. It follows the beat. ^
In addition to that, you REALLY should change the dark blue and dark grey combo colors. They are really hard to see against the background. Changed

Kiai is inconsistent between the two difficulties. Normal starts at 01:56:011, while Hard starts at 01:55:379. You should change normal so that it is the same as Hard. ok done

This song is really begging for more clap hitsound use. Hear the sound at 00:55:379? You should use claps to sync to that sound. For most of the song, the pattern will simply be a clap every 2 beats. In addition, the hitsounds are hard to hear. Increase the volume on the soft hitsounds for both difficulties. DJPop said that it's too loud, so, what should i do?

Hard:

01:57:590 (6) - I don't like the way this sounds. It seems like you are trying to follow the vocals, but the vocals are actually off-beat and don't really sync to the timeline. I think it sounds better if you just extend it 1/4.
02:07:695 (5) - ^
02:58:221 (6,7) - same as above, but you used circles here instead. I suggest adding a circle at 02:58:537 -
03:08:327 (6,7) - same, add circle at 03:08:642?
^ ok, i added more circles and sliders, hope that it will work with yours
+kudosu~
Shulin
1,189 posts
Joined August 2009
Shulin
General:

-- That intro is irritating, cut it?
-- I think you need an Easier difficulty with a lower slider velocity
-- Album name usually goes into tags.
-- You don't need the tag "pop" there is a genre for that.
-- The preview time between Normal and Hard is different please make them the same.

Normal:

-- Delete the SB on this difficulty please, you don't map to the end so you don't need that x2 BPM warning.
-- Why does this difficulty have the same slider velocity as Hard? Some variation please, or perhaps an Easier difficulty.

00:34:863 (2) - Too far, place it in the same place as 00:32:968 (4) - ?
00:35:179 (3) - Place to the right of the previous combo (just so its not all in the same area)
01:25:073 (4) - Make a better shape?
01:37:073 (x) - Note? or 01:36:442 (2) - extra return?
01:38:337 (x) - ^
01:40:231 (x) - Note?
01:40:863 (1,2,3,4,1) - Spacing slowdown, why? Might confuse players for the easiest difficulty and it's not even a x0.5 section...
01:42:758 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^
01:44:021 (x) - Note?
01:50:337 (1) - You could probably make this a better curve.
01:52:863 (x) - Note. + New combo.

Suggested notes are to add to the rhythm you don't have to use them, it's just I found some of the sliders removed from the beat when on their own.

Hard:

-- Why are the combo colors different to Normal? Please make them the same for consistency at least.

00:32:011 (1) - Unsnapped spinner.
03:13:705 -- The x2 BPM warning comes too early, you expect it straight away but get a spinner then X2 remove the spinner perhaps.
03:16:231 -- The x2 section doesn't fit imo, for example see how fast 03:16:705 (1) - moves but there is no change in tempo, pitch (its a repetition of the last verse) or anything that warrants a x2 section. It just feels wrong. I'd recommend removing it actually.

That's all there's a couple of nazi issues I could have picked up on but they aren't entirely relevant, I'll come back and star when you've fixed the unsnapped thing :D
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
Your mp3 REALLY needs to be cut. Cut off the annoying into and the massive ending. It's just a waste of filesize to have them there.

Normal
01:37:705 (1) - What the hell? Why did you change the spacing like this? Space it sensibly, please. All the way from here to 01:55:389 (5) - is just silly.
This difficulty really needs some more hitsounds. Add some claps and whistles and the map will be way more fun. :D
The length of

Hard
Eeeeh... Is there really any need for the 2x section? There aren't any significant changes in the music and it just feels awkward.

Hmm, your map works pretty well overall. Just look into what I've pointed out.
Caroline7
7 posts
Joined June 2009
Caroline7
The song is beautiful and I really liked the map, starred ^^
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys
2x part deleted and 0.5x part in normal was deleted too
song has been cut to make it shorter
something that u mod is the original one but there's someone told me to made it (sry for that =w=)
Shulin
1,189 posts
Joined August 2009
Shulin
General:

-- Offset 916.
-- Cut the mp3 at the end, there's quite a lot unused.
-- Make sure to tell people to redownload because you changed the .mp3.

Normal:

-- Add some audio lead in
-- The preview point is still different to Hard make them the same please.

00:28:078 (1) - Return is hidden by previous slider too tricky for easiest difficulty.
00:35:637 (4) - Space this properly please (not under the slider).
00:35:656 (4,5) - Spacing again.
00:47:341 (2) - Spacing?
00:58:077 (5) - ^

Hard:

-- Offset is different to Normal, change it to 916.
-- Make sure to adjust your inheriting sections so kiai lands on beats etc.

It plays much better without that x2 section ~ Star.
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys
all that Astom, fartownik, Lybydose, Shulin and Agent Spin Here mod has been fixed
thanks for the star and helpful mod

if anyone want to star/mod this map with old version in your PC, please re-download HERE
(because i've cut the unuse mp3 file and upload the new BG)
Last edited by termerys , edited 3 times in total.
Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi
Really Nice Map =)
Shulin
1,189 posts
Joined August 2009
Shulin
General:

-- Delete the .osb you don't need it anymore.
-- Delete "warning0".png from the song folder. Full submit when you do this.
-- Silver combo color does not go with the new BG (maybe just use default colors?)

Normal:

00:24:284 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:32:179 (4) - New combo?
00:36:284 (5) - New combo.
00:37:231 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:38:179 (3) - New combo here.
00:47:653 (3,4) - Spacing? This overlap is really messy rearrange the note and slider.

Hard:

00:21:442 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:22:073 (1) - ^
01:56:179 (1) - ^
02:05:652 (2,3) - Messy overlap.
02:14:494 (4,1) - ^
02:43:073 (2,3) - Slider?
02:48:284 (7) - New combo
02:50:494 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:50:810 (2) - New combo here.
03:00:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Change in 1/4 spacing intentional?

Make sure to delete the unnecessary files in your song folder and tidy up those new combo's a little, also you might want someone to double check the offset ^^

That's all for now :D
Lokamp
2,530 posts
Joined January 2009
Lokamp
Double checked the offset, 900 or 902 for Hard will be fine. I think 916 is still suitable for Normal!

Normal
[General] Add claps during kiai time!
00:27:126 (3) - remove whistle from this slider's start
00:43:863 (1) - finish here, instead of whistle
00:51:126 (2) - move it a square right
00:53:653 (3) - move it 2 squares left
01:26:811 (5) - move it a square down and a square right
01:38:495 (3,4) - move them a square up

Hard
[General 2] Like on Easy, add some claps during kiai time!
02:14:478 (4) - This beat covers part of the next slider's path! You had better to move it elsewhere...

After lots of modifies, this map is nice to see and to play.
However, so much stars... and NO Bat posts? Tell me when you've modified most of these things for a p-bubble :3

EDIT: As said upper, here's a p-bubble. Good luck!
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys
Thanks Lokamp!
vincerio
687 posts
Joined April 2009
vincerio
Nice map~

i hope it ranked soon ^^ b
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol
[General]
  1. Make the offset like the one Shulin posted, 916.
  2. Delete the .osb file from song folder, like Shulin posted.
  3. Capitalize the TAGs.
[Hard]

01:54:920 (1,1,1) - Remove these New Combo marks.
01:56:814 (1) - Same here, remove New Combo on this one also.
02:04:709 (1) - Remove new combo here and then...
02:05:972 (3) - ...Add the new combo here.

[Normal]
  1. Decrease overall difficulty by one (?) Because it's the easiest difficulty.
00:26:794 (2) - Spacing, (2) is too far away from (1).
00:45:426 (3) - Spacing, (3) is too far away from (2).
Diasios
3,966 posts
Joined August 2008
Diasios
You should make another difficulty, like an "Insane".
Also, you should map all the song :S

[Normal]

Spacing is a bit weird. Keep "distance snap" active
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys

Gladi wrote:

[General]
  1. Make the offset like the one Shulin posted, 916. it sound strange, i'm not sure which offset should i use; Shulin or Lokamp
  2. Delete the .osb file from song folder, like Shulin posted. done
  3. Capitalize the TAGs.
[Hard]

01:54:920 (1,1,1) - Remove these New Combo marks.
01:56:814 (1) - Same here, remove New Combo on this one also.
02:04:709 (1) - Remove new combo here and then...
02:05:972 (3) - ...Add the new combo here.

[Normal]
  1. Decrease overall difficulty by one (?) Because it's the easiest difficulty.
00:26:794 (2) - Spacing, (2) is too far away from (1).
00:45:426 (3) - Spacing, (3) is too far away from (2).
done
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys

xxheroxx wrote:

You should make another difficulty, like an "Insane" .It get bubble already.
Also, you should map all the song :S I don't like normal diff in full version, i think it's too long for the easiest diff

[Normal]

Spacing is a bit weird. Keep "distance snap" active actually it active always, but some space still wrong
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Vanmonky
986 posts
Joined June 2009
Vanmonky
As your request.

Read this first for the icon explanation.
- [?] Asking for a second thought.
- [!] Fatal error. You have to fix this for sure.
- [No icon] Only a suggestion.

[General]
1. You may crop the unused part of the song.
2. Delete the .osb file.

[Normal]
00:46:389 (1) - Remove new combo, Then...
00:47:652 (3) - Add new combo.
00:49:547 (6) - Turn of distance snap, then move one tiny grid down.
00:58:073 (5) - Add new combo. Then...
00:59:021 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:00:284 (5) - Add new combo.
01:02:810 (3) - ^
01:07:863 (5) - Add new combo. Then...
01:09:126 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:15:442 (7) - Add new combo.
01:16:705 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:18:600 (4) - Add new combo.

[Hard]
00:40:231 (2) - Move one tiny grid right.
01:05:337 - I don't like how the distance changes suddenly from here.
02:04:705 - ^
Star.
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys

VanMoNky wrote:

As your request.

Read this first for the icon explanation.
- [?] Asking for a second thought.
- [!] Fatal error. You have to fix this for sure.
- [No icon] Only a suggestion.
I don't see any sign lol

[General]
1. You may crop the unused part of the song. I think I deleted enough, it won't be good song if I delete it more
2. Delete the .osb file. done

[Normal]
00:46:389 (1) - Remove new combo, Then...
00:47:652 (3) - Add new combo.
00:49:547 (6) - Turn of distance snap, then move one tiny grid down.
00:58:073 (5) - Add new combo. Then...
00:59:021 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:00:284 (5) - Add new combo.
01:02:810 (3) - ^
01:07:863 (5) - Add new combo. Then...
01:09:126 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:15:442 (7) - Add new combo.
01:16:705 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:18:600 (4) - Add new combo.

[Hard]
00:40:231 (2) - Move one tiny grid right.
01:05:337 - I don't like how the distance changes suddenly from here.
02:04:705 - ^
it's s slow part of the song
done
Star.
WubWoofWolf
Former osu! Champion: 2017
112 posts
Joined September 2008
WubWoofWolf
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YGOkid8
osu! Alumni
2,729 posts
Joined February 2009
YGOkid8
i hope you didn't forget that when you delete the .osb file, you need to Full Submit?
termerys
537 posts
Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
termerys

YGOkid8 wrote:

i hope you didn't forget that when you delete the .osb file, you need to Full Submit?
umm.. can u re-download it again, please?
because i just test it and there's no .osb in there
YGOkid8
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YGOkid8

termerys wrote:

umm.. can u re-download it again, please?
because i just test it and there's no .osb in there
ha ha, I'm not saying it's there, I'm just saying don't forget as a reminder :)
termerys
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termerys

YGOkid8 wrote:

termerys wrote:

umm.. can u re-download it again, please?
because i just test it and there's no .osb in there
ha ha, I'm not saying it's there, I'm just saying don't forget as a reminder :)
OK some misunderstanding haha. Thanks for remind me.
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