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ak74

mingmichael wrote:

okay then. here i go

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it


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[ Kantan]

General
☞ okay!


Notes
• this spinner will make the Kantan players confused 00:48:255 (1) - . well yah it's because the spinner is too short and after the spinner comes, there's a note (big note) on 00:49:527 - , on the red strike in 1/2. ofc this 1/2 note could make the Kantan players become confused too, but it's not a big problem since it follows the vocals. so then, try to remove the spinner and add note (kat) on 00:48:073 -
and i would suggest you to keep the long break on 00:48:255 - ~ 00:49:345 - . why? this break could really help the kantan player to read the 1/2 note which comes out on 00:49:527 -

• change 00:52:618 - to be kat and move 00:52:982 - to 00:53:709 - . and also change 00:53:345 - to be kat. it will be much better to follow the pitch sounds there


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[ Futsuu]

General
☞ okay!


Notes
• this pattern is too random suddenly 00:16:255 (27,28,29,30) - . well i know that you wanted to try follow the vocals or another sounds with doublets. but actually it doesn't match and not really comfortable to be played since you used single or 3 notes patterns from 00:10:436 - . kay then try to move 00:16:618 - to 00:15:891 - and move 00:17:345 - to 00:16:982 -

• change 00:18:436 - to be kat and move 00:19:527 - to 00:18:800 - . after you change it, you can see if it has a same vocal & pattern like 00:13:345 (22,23,24) -

• move 00:20:255 - to 00:19:891 -

• try to move 00:35:527 - to 00:35:164 - and change it to be don. i changed it to follow the first vocal (after "Heyy!" comes out)
and also it will be same like 00:37:345 - ~ 00:38:073 - if you look that pattern

• move 00:38:436 - to 00:39:164 - and change 00:38:800 - and 00:39:164 - to be o o

here, i know that you wanted to follow the vocal on 00:49:345 - , didn't you? well it's a nice idea if you wanted to do it~ but tbh this note which follows the vocal will make a confusing patterns because it comes out on 1/2 and it still has a 1/2 note+finisher on 00:49:527 - . so i deleted 00:49:345 - to give a little break to press the 1/2 finisher on 00:49:527 -

same like above ^ . if you apply above, make sure that you delete 01:00:982 - to keep the consistency of the pattern


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[ Muzukashii]

General
☞ okay!


Notes
• add a note (don) on 00:17:527 - , like you did on 00:11:709 -

• move 00:19:345 - to 00:18:982 - and change 00:18:618 - ~ 00:19:164 - to be o o o o. it will be much better to follow the vocal pitch sounds

• add a note (kat) on 00:30:436 - . it will support the violin pitch sound


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[ Oni]

General
☞ okay!


Notes
• change 00:14:618 - to be kat

• change 00:15:709 - and 00:15:891 - to be o o. it's to follow the don kat patterns that you used (mostly kats are on the white strikes)

• how about try this from 00:20:073 - ~ 00:22:073 -

it will flow the song much better with the constant patterns (o o o o) and also it's more interesting and better to be played too

• change 00:26:436 - and 00:26:618 - to be o o. this vocal on 00:26:436 - will be much better to be emphasized by the don than a kat (i think you used kat because it has a same pitch sound with 00:26:255 - , didn't you?)

• change 00:28:618 - to be don here. the vocal has dropped there

• a missing note on 00:30:436 - . try to add a note (kat) on there. after that, change 00:30:255 - to be don

• i don't get about the triplet on 00:31:709 - actually ._. the music/vocal doesn't give any triplet sounds there, just the normal one. okay, try to delete it and add a note on 00:31:709 - ; 00:31:891 - and 00:32:073 - with o o o. if you have changed it, you will see the whole pattern too

it would be much better right? the pattern is well mapped too and it gives an interesting patterns too!

• change 00:51:891 - to be kat. it will be better with ooo-triplet IMO


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basically whole of diffs are nice-mapped, just need some mods more to improve your map
goodluck!
Thx.All accept.
Akiyama Mizuki
Hi, from my modding queue.

love life in tags? lol. And actually you don't have to put love live into tags, it's already in source.

Kantan
SPOILER
00:40:982 (47) - No, finisher doesn't fit this part
01:22:436 (60,61,62) - d k d

Futsuu
SPOILER
00:33:709 (60) - No finisher here
00:48:073 (89,90) - K
01:02:436 (126) - k - Following the rhythm.

Muzukashii
SPOILER
00:05:164 (10) - k
00:40:982 (134) - Same as Kantan
00:50:618 (167,168,169) - k

Oni
SPOILER
00:24:073 (110,111,112,113) - This pattern kinda doesn't fit this part
Topic Starter
ak74

bbj0920 wrote:

Hi, from my modding queue.

love life in tags? lol. And actually you don't have to put love live into tags, it's already in source.

Kantan
SPOILER
00:40:982 (47) - No, finisher doesn't fit this part
01:22:436 (60,61,62) - d k d

Futsuu
SPOILER
00:33:709 (60) - No finisher here
00:48:073 (89,90) - K
01:02:436 (126) - k - Following the rhythm.

Muzukashii
SPOILER
00:05:164 (10) - k
00:40:982 (134) - Same as Kantan
00:50:618 (167,168,169) - k

Oni
SPOILER
00:24:073 (110,111,112,113) - This pattern kinda doesn't fit this part
Fix some
Thx
qoot8123
No KD

Kantan :

SV改成1.4,由於最近的新rule, 所以如果不是太快的歌都不要用1.20

01:14:431 - 綠線沒對齊好

00:40:982 (47) - 這裡應該不需要用到大圓

01:06:800 (33,34) - 這裡改成這樣會比較簡單

01:13:709 (45,46) - 這兩個note可以刪掉,打起來會比較簡單

Futsuu:

SV改成1.4,原因同kantan

01:14:431 - 時間軸沒對齊

00:15:527 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33) - 這裡建議像這樣,做個比較大的停頓,跟下一段作區別會比較好


Muzu:

01:14:431 - 同futsuu

00:32:618 (100,101,102,103,104,105) - 建議改成這樣 跟音樂會比較合

00:40:982 (134) - 同futsuu

Oni:

01:14:431 - 同muzu

00:24:073 (110,111,112,113) - 這裡改成 dd dk 跟vocal會比較合

00:55:709 (293,294,295,296,297,298,299,300,301) - 建議改成這樣 跟vcoal也是比較合

01:13:800 (390,392) - 這兩個有點多餘,建議刪掉

01:16:436 (405,406,407,408) - 這裡用一般的三連音就夠了

01:22:255 (435,436,437,438,439,440) - ^

01:25:618 (451) - 建議刪掉,這裡放三連音不是很恰當

00:42:618 (215,216,217,218,219,220,221) - 試試看這樣 聽起來比較舒服

大致上就這些,改好之後就叫我recheck :)
Topic Starter
ak74

qoot8123 wrote:

No KD

Kantan :

SV改成1.4,由於最近的新rule, 所以如果不是太快的歌都不要用1.20

01:14:431 - 綠線沒對齊好

00:40:982 (47) - 這裡應該不需要用到大圓

01:06:800 (33,34) - 這裡改成這樣會比較簡單

01:13:709 (45,46) - 這兩個note可以刪掉,打起來會比較簡單

Futsuu:

SV改成1.4,原因同kantan

01:14:431 - 時間軸沒對齊

00:15:527 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33) - 這裡建議像這樣,做個比較大的停頓,跟下一段作區別會比較好


Muzu:

01:14:431 - 同futsuu

00:32:618 (100,101,102,103,104,105) - 建議改成這樣 跟音樂會比較合

00:40:982 (134) - 同futsuu

Oni:

01:14:431 - 同muzu

00:24:073 (110,111,112,113) - 這裡改成 dd dk 跟vocal會比較合

00:55:709 (293,294,295,296,297,298,299,300,301) - 建議改成這樣 跟vcoal也是比較合

01:13:800 (390,392) - 這兩個有點多餘,建議刪掉

01:16:436 (405,406,407,408) - 這裡用一般的三連音就夠了

01:22:255 (435,436,437,438,439,440) - ^

01:25:618 (451) - 建議刪掉,這裡放三連音不是很恰當

00:42:618 (215,216,217,218,219,220,221) - 試試看這樣 聽起來比較舒服

大致上就這些,改好之後就叫我recheck :)

All accept ;w;
qoot8123
Talk with mapper, and we changed some notes placement, this set is overall good to me so I think it is ready to go :3

Bubbled!


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12:54 ak74qbz95xm8: hi qoot~ 半期考考好了吗
12:54 ak74qbz95xm8: ;w;
12:55 qoot8123: 考完了
12:55 ak74qbz95xm8: 有时间recheck吗;w;
12:55 qoot8123: 你的譜記得先上傳
12:55 qoot8123: 等喔
12:55 ak74qbz95xm8: 嗯 传了
12:55 qoot8123: 有些link不見了
12:56 ak74qbz95xm8: 要我np吗
12:56 qoot8123: 恩
12:56 *ak74qbz95xm8 is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/447391 u's - Donna Toki mo Zutto]
13:03 qoot8123: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3408679#p3408679
13:03 qoot8123: 我的Mod再看一次
13:04 qoot8123: link有圖片了
13:04 ak74qbz95xm8: 好
13:23 ak74qbz95xm8: 好的 我改完了
13:24 qoot8123: 恩
13:24 qoot8123: 回應一下
13:24 ak74qbz95xm8: OK
13:25 ak74qbz95xm8: 回复完毕
13:25 qoot8123: OK
13:29 qoot8123: futsuu 的sv 1.4
13:30 ak74qbz95xm8: oh 我忘了 不好意思
13:30 ak74qbz95xm8: ok 更新了
13:31 qoot8123: futsuu 00:55:891 (109,110) -調換一下
13:32 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
13:33 qoot8123: muzu : 00:21:164 (61) - 移到00:21:345 -
13:35 qoot8123: 01:07:527 (240) - 刪掉,做一個小停頓會有不錯的效果
13:37 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
13:38 qoot8123: oni 01:25:527 (449) - 這裡改成大kat
13:38 qoot8123: 或是大don
13:39 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
13:40 ak74qbz95xm8: 都上传了
13:40 qoot8123: 恩
DakeDekaane
Did some IRC modding

Summary:
  1. Removed some notes to represent better the song with breaks.
  2. Tweaked a few patterns.
  3. Changed BG for a higher quality one.
  4. Added some tags.
log
21:21 ak74qbz95xm8: Hi ddk
21:22 ak74qbz95xm8: mod my map now?
21:24 ak74qbz95xm8: do you want to irc mod or thread mod?
21:34 ak74qbz95xm8: have to go out now...plz give me a forum PM,Thx!><
23:18 ak74qbz95xm8: Hi ddk I'm coming back
23:18 ak74qbz95xm8: have time now?
23:19 DakeDekaane: hi
23:19 DakeDekaane: yeah
23:19 ak74qbz95xm8: ok thx!
23:19 ak74qbz95xm8: irc mod plz?
23:22 DakeDekaane: let me test them again
23:23 ak74qbz95xm8: sure
23:23 ak74qbz95xm8: plz
23:29 DakeDekaane: are you ready?
23:30 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
23:31 *DakeDekaane is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/447389 u's - Donna Toki mo Zutto [Kantan]]
23:31 DakeDekaane: 00:21:345 (22) - you could remove this note to have a small break for the held vocals
23:32 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
23:32 DakeDekaane: 00:28:618 (30) - this one too, to keep consistency in your 3-note patterns, music is the same so not much reason to have something that different
23:33 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
23:33 DakeDekaane: 00:30:436 - and you could add a don here to put some emphasis for the vocals
23:34 ak74qbz95xm8: done
23:35 DakeDekaane: 00:54:800 (10) - you could remove this one too, to have a small break for the vocals
23:35 DakeDekaane: 01:00:436 (19) - same
23:35 DakeDekaane: 01:06:436 (29) - ^
23:36 DakeDekaane: 01:08:982 (33) - ^
23:36 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
23:37 DakeDekaane: that'd be all for that diff
23:37 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
23:38 *DakeDekaane is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/447387 u's - Donna Toki mo Zutto [Futsuu]]
23:38 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
23:38 DakeDekaane: 00:09:709 (17) - this can be removed to create a break that would fit nicely between both parts
23:39 DakeDekaane: 00:31:527 (54) - ^
23:39 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah it's right
23:39 DakeDekaane: 00:44:618 (81) - ^
23:39 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
23:40 DakeDekaane: 00:54:436 (105,106) - these two too
23:41 ak74qbz95xm8: umm
23:41 ak74qbz95xm8: 00:55:345 (105)
23:41 DakeDekaane: for the break in vocals I mean
23:41 DakeDekaane: 00:54:436 -
23:42 ak74qbz95xm8: but I think it keeps consistency
23:42 ak74qbz95xm8: But if you determine...alright
23:42 DakeDekaane: yeah, but as you've been following vocals, it'd be better to have a break there :p
23:43 ak74qbz95xm8: could I keep 105?
23:43 DakeDekaane: can you paste the timestamp?
23:43 DakeDekaane: just to be sure
23:43 ak74qbz95xm8: 00:55:345 (105)
23:44 DakeDekaane: without the note, because I think we're having some misunderstanding x_X
23:44 DakeDekaane: just the time
23:44 ak74qbz95xm8: this 00:54:436 I can delete it
23:44 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
23:45 DakeDekaane: notes in 00:54:436 - and 00:54:800 - are the ones I'm suggesting to remove
23:45 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
23:46 ak74qbz95xm8: done
23:46 DakeDekaane: 01:06:436 - the note there could be deleted to, for the vocals
23:47 ak74qbz95xm8: ehh there's a "gan" voice here
23:47 DakeDekaane: oh right
23:47 DakeDekaane: sorry
23:47 DakeDekaane: 01:05:528 (134) - how about making this a big note? it'd fit nicely with the strong vocals
23:48 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
23:48 ak74qbz95xm8: done
23:48 DakeDekaane: 01:08:436 (141,145) - same for these two
23:49 ak74qbz95xm8: done
23:49 DakeDekaane: 01:16:982 (160) - probably remove this note to cut a bit the long pattern
23:49 ak74qbz95xm8: done
23:50 DakeDekaane: 01:20:073 (167) - probably make this a big note too
23:50 ak74qbz95xm8: done
23:50 DakeDekaane: 01:22:800 (173) - not really needed to, but probably remove this note too, for consistency with the previous deleted note
23:51 ak74qbz95xm8: alright.done
23:51 DakeDekaane: let's move to Muzukashii now
23:51 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
23:53 DakeDekaane: 00:20:618 (60) - you could move this to 00:20:982 - you'd follow better the vocals imo
23:54 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
23:54 ak74qbz95xm8: done
23:54 DakeDekaane: 00:31:527 (97,98) - you could remove these notes, to have some break that would fit nice to create some tension before the kiai
23:55 DakeDekaane: wait, before the next part, I confused a bit
23:55 DakeDekaane: not kiai x_X
23:56 ak74qbz95xm8: so shall I keep them?
23:56 DakeDekaane: no, remove them, but the reason is to have some breaks, to represent the song nicely
23:56 DakeDekaane: as there's a vocal break there
23:57 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
23:57 ak74qbz95xm8: done
23:57 DakeDekaane: 00:35:891 (113) - you could make this a don so you keep only kats for the "let's go"
23:58 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
23:58 ak74qbz95xm8: done
23:59 DakeDekaane: 00:38:800 (124) - same for this one
23:59 ak74qbz95xm8: done
00:00 DakeDekaane: 00:42:255 (137) - this could be removed, I don't feel like the note is needed there, don't know how to explain it
00:01 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
00:01 ak74qbz95xm8: done
00:02 DakeDekaane: 00:54:255 (183,184,185,186) - this ones could be removed to create a break for the vocals, as you've been basing your mapping a bit on vocals
00:04 ak74qbz95xm8: done
00:05 DakeDekaane: 00:56:255 (194) - how about removing this note, it'd make the diff a bit easier and you'll keep a bit this 3-notes pattern consistency, like 00:49:891 (163,164,165,166,167,168,169) -
00:06 ak74qbz95xm8: could I add a don at 00:54:800
00:06 ak74qbz95xm8: 00:54:800
00:07 ak74qbz95xm8: it's not link lol
00:07 DakeDekaane: well, that'd sound a bit weird
00:07 DakeDekaane: imo
00:07 ak74qbz95xm8: done above
00:08 ak74qbz95xm8: alright I'll delete it
00:08 DakeDekaane: same suggestion about removing for 01:02:073 (216) - and 01:03:527 (224) -
00:08 ak74qbz95xm8: done
00:09 DakeDekaane: and removing 01:09:164 (245) - and 01:10:618 (251) - would make the map follow vocals better, don't know if that was your intention
00:09 DakeDekaane: 01:14:073 (266) - same for this one
00:11 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah they do follow vocals better
00:11 ak74qbz95xm8: 01:14:07
00:11 ak74qbz95xm8: 01:14:073 (266)
00:11 ak74qbz95xm8: I want to keep this though...
00:11 DakeDekaane: it's okay to keep that
00:11 DakeDekaane: 01:16:527 (278,280) - and removing this notes would make it a bit more different than Oni, also it'd be consistent with 01:21:709 (296,297,298,299,300,301) -
00:12 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah it's right
00:13 ak74qbz95xm8: donw
00:13 ak74qbz95xm8: done*
00:13 DakeDekaane: and that'd be all, now, let's finish with the Oni, which was nice
00:13 ak74qbz95xm8: Thx ><
00:13 ak74qbz95xm8: start yeah
00:14 DakeDekaane: 00:06:255 (16,25) - you could remove these notes so 00:06:073 (15,24) - could have more emphasis by being alone
00:15 ak74qbz95xm8: done
00:17 DakeDekaane: 00:30:982 (147,148) - these could be removed, I think it'll keep consistency with the previous patterns for vocals
00:18 DakeDekaane: sec
00:18 ak74qbz95xm8: but I think it fits the instrument...
00:18 DakeDekaane: okay
00:20 DakeDekaane: 00:36:800 (182) - you could remove this note to have consistency with 00:34:982 -
00:21 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
00:21 ak74qbz95xm8: done
00:21 DakeDekaane: 00:43:436 (220,221) - shouldn't this be kd, to have consistency with the previous?
00:23 ak74qbz95xm8: donw
00:23 ak74qbz95xm8: done*
00:23 DakeDekaane: 00:46:164 (235) - I think this note interrupts the main instrument here, maybe remove it?
00:24 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
00:24 ak74qbz95xm8: done
00:25 DakeDekaane: 01:00:527 (318,319,320) - I think these notes interrupt the vocals a bit, you should remove them, personally I think the small break would fit nicely, don't know what you think
00:27 ak74qbz95xm8: umm
00:27 ak74qbz95xm8: 01:00:800 (314)
00:28 ak74qbz95xm8: I 'll keep this
00:28 DakeDekaane: alright
00:28 DakeDekaane: 01:08:436 (361,370) - these should be big notes like I suggested in the other difficulties
00:29 ak74qbz95xm8: done
00:29 DakeDekaane: 01:20:073 (422) - this too
00:29 DakeDekaane: a big note
00:30 ak74qbz95xm8: done
00:30 DakeDekaane: 01:20:073 (422) - and this could be removed because this is a bit long considering the whole map
00:30 DakeDekaane: the pattern, I mean
00:31 ak74qbz95xm8: wait?
00:31 ak74qbz95xm8: but here is a "de" voice
00:31 DakeDekaane: wait, I highlighted the wrong note, it was 01:21:527 (430) -
00:32 DakeDekaane: x_X
00:32 ak74qbz95xm8: ;w;
00:32 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
00:32 ak74qbz95xm8: donw
00:32 ak74qbz95xm8: e*
00:32 DakeDekaane: let me get a higher resolution for your BG so you could update it and I'll give a final check
00:33 ak74qbz95xm8: ohh
00:33 ak74qbz95xm8: thx
00:38 ak74qbz95xm8: wait.. some is wrong with my puush all the time
00:38 ak74qbz95xm8: do you have other ways?
00:41 DakeDekaane: oh
00:41 DakeDekaane: if it's for the BG I already have them
00:43 ak74qbz95xm8: and...
00:43 DakeDekaane: uploading
00:43 ak74qbz95xm8: how can I get them?
00:43 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
00:44 DakeDekaane: here's something similar to your actual BG: http://puu.sh/dtWFY.jpg
00:45 DakeDekaane: and here's something with a bit more appropriate aspect ratio (16:9): http://puu.sh/dtWLr.jpg
00:46 DakeDekaane: pick one, update, and let me know
00:47 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
00:47 ak74qbz95xm8: and I'm a little not familiar with the mapping system
00:48 ak74qbz95xm8: should I find my bubble giver again?
00:49 DakeDekaane: well, I have no problem with qualifying it as it is, as I didn't pop the bubble, but if you feel you'd want another BAT opinion, I'll rebubble
00:51 ak74qbz95xm8: umm.. could I find previous BAT who gave me the bub to pop the bub again,and let you rank my map?
00:52 ak74qbz95xm8: or actually the two ways have no difference?
00:52 DakeDekaane: I'll explain better, qoot bubbled the map, I checked the bubble and found it good to be qualified after this fixes, so no need to find qoot again :p
00:53 ak74qbz95xm8: does it means a map can be qualified though its bub is broken?
00:54 DakeDekaane: yup, bubble is always popped after any update, it's up to the checking BAT to rebubble or qualify
00:55 DakeDekaane: or find the BAT who bubbled it to repair the bubble if there's no BAT checking it in that moment
00:55 ak74qbz95xm8: oh I see
00:55 ak74qbz95xm8: Thank you for telling me
00:56 ak74qbz95xm8: and it's really kind of you ><
00:56 DakeDekaane: np, that's why we're here :p
00:58 DakeDekaane: have you updated?
00:59 ak74qbz95xm8: ok I'm going to update now
00:59 DakeDekaane: okay
01:00 ak74qbz95xm8: okay
01:00 ak74qbz95xm8: ><
01:00 ak74qbz95xm8: final check plz
01:05 DakeDekaane: let's see, in Futsuu, add a note in 00:55:891 - probably a kat to keep consistency with previous patterns
01:06 DakeDekaane: (I think this got removed in the misunderstanding)
01:06 ak74qbz95xm8: ohhh my fault
01:06 ak74qbz95xm8: done
01:07 DakeDekaane: 01:07:345 (132,135) - wasn't these big notes?
01:07 DakeDekaane: I mean, these 01:08:436 (135,139) -
01:07 DakeDekaane: 01:10:800 (141) - and this shouldn't be a big note
01:08 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
01:08 ak74qbz95xm8: done
01:08 ak74qbz95xm8: (too many misunderstandings lol)
01:10 DakeDekaane: in Oni, 00:36:255 (178,194) - these should be the same, either big notes or normal notes
01:12 ak74qbz95xm8: does it means I should add a finsh at 00:39:164 (194)
01:12 ak74qbz95xm8: ?
01:12 DakeDekaane: that or remove the finish in 00:36:255 (178) -
01:13 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
01:13 ak74qbz95xm8: I did former
01:14 DakeDekaane: 00:43:436 (217,218,219,220) - and this should be kd k d or dk k d
01:14 DakeDekaane: plays better imo
01:15 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
01:15 ak74qbz95xm8: I think it's another understanding
01:15 ak74qbz95xm8: ;w;
01:15 DakeDekaane: dw
01:16 ak74qbz95xm8: anything else?
01:18 DakeDekaane: why is love life in tags?
01:19 ak74qbz95xm8: ehh... previous modder's mod
01:19 ak74qbz95xm8: shall I delete it?
01:19 DakeDekaane: I don't think it's needed
01:19 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
01:21 DakeDekaane: probably copy the japanese title (ラブライブ!) from here: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/222248, don't know anything about love live, so I won't tell you to add all those characters lol
01:21 DakeDekaane: and add it in tags
01:22 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
01:22 ak74qbz95xm8: thx a lot
01:22 DakeDekaane: that'd be all
01:22 DakeDekaane: go update and tell me when done
01:25 ak74qbz95xm8: finish updating
01:25 ak74qbz95xm8: ;w;
01:28 ak74qbz95xm8: anything alright now?
01:28 DakeDekaane: checking the tags, because dunno if the song belongs to the album
01:30 ak74qbz95xm8: ohhh my fault
01:30 DakeDekaane: delete the tags: insert song Best Album Collection Xinely
01:30 DakeDekaane: others can be kept, I think
01:31 ak74qbz95xm8: yes
01:32 ak74qbz95xm8: finish updating now
01:35 DakeDekaane: doing the last test in case I missed something else
01:37 ak74qbz95xm8: sure
01:37 ak74qbz95xm8: plz

Map is nice, probably it could be a bit better, but I'm sure you'll improve in your next maps.

Go qualified.
(ノ・ω・)ノ
Yumeno Himiko
gratz

邪教胜利
Topic Starter
ak74

examination wrote:

gratz

邪教胜利

你书得对,下一张maki compilation带带我啊
Charlotte
gratz! :)
Topic Starter
ak74

Charlotte wrote:

gratz! :)
Charlotte! Thx :)
Kyouren
Gratzz for your first Ranked Map~
Topic Starter
ak74

gokugohan12468 wrote:

Gratzz for your first Ranked Map~
Thx><
woshiguabi
操你妈L狗垃圾 全家扎拉
graz! :)
karterfreak
I feel like the Kiai in the kantan could use some pretty big tweaks and honestly isn't ready for qualified. Many parts of the kiai should have notes on the upbeat (aka the red tick) in 1/1 instead of on the downbeat (white tick) in 1/1. As it is right now, the notes feel out of place as they don't line up with the vocals / most impactful parts of the song, which is what you normally map to in kantan difficulties.

As an example

00:49:527 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Currently mapped to 1/1 snap on the downbeat. The vocals and very dominant parts of the song are on the upbeats (red ticks) and would play significantly better as shown in the picture here

To see what it'd look like if the entire kiai was changed to match the vocals better, I made a quick example which can be found here

This problem extends throughout the kiai, and also exists in the futsuu. Haven't looked at the muzukashii or oni yet as the problem is big enough in the easier difficulties in my opinion to warrant a disqualification.
Topic Starter
ak74

woshiguabi wrote:

操你妈L狗垃圾 全家扎拉
graz! :)
8888888888885
DakeDekaane
As the BAT who qualified I shall say I understand how the mapper followed the vocals while staying on the main beat (and I'd probably mapped in a very similar way). Both options are valid, though I see mapping on offbeat a bit weird for a Kantan. In the end QAT will have the final word, so let's avoid any drama or unneeded discussion as we already did in #taiko :P
Love
oh god, I don't see how this is following the vocals at all. There's nothing wrong with discussion about how a map can be layed out differently, because it's not unwanted.

I have also came up with a different method if mixing both. Like so:

OnosakiHito

Reason for Disqualification


  1. Disqualified for spread concerns between Oni and Muzukashii.
  2. There are also quality concerns about the vocal-beat mapping in Kantan.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Additional Modding



[ Kantan]
SPOILER
Kantan feels sometimes like a mix of beat-vocal mapping, which in most cases works fine with the vocal. Sometimes however, it doesn't work really well since the clash / conflict between vocal and beatmapping becomes too big (Tasha and Love noticed it and gave examples). I will mention it once again downbelow.

  1. 00:33:709 (36,40) - Note (36) is a finisher while (40) isn't one. For consistency, I would either delete the finisher or change (40) to one.
  2. 00:39:527~00:43:891 - That's one vocal-beat clash we have in this map. First, the previous 1/1 triplets follow the vocal in a nice way and then, suddenly at 00:39:527 it becomes a straight 2/1 pattern, which has just barely something to do with the vocal. It can be discussed about if it's now good or not, but it can confuse lower players since they do not know what to follow exactly. It might be enough to delete just the note at 00:40:255 (45) - to gain your previous mapping way back(the triplets).
  3. 00:43:891~00:46:800 - Not a must, but a spinner would be possible. After all these triplets, the spinner could fungate as "fake rest moment", since it doesn't need to be hit up to the end after all.
  4. 00:49:527~00:54:073 - Another vocal-beat clash. First and last patterns in this section fit to the vocal while the middle part are just straight 2/1 notes.
    I have something else to suggest, in case you want to follow the vocal(which are actually strong emphasized here):
    Highlighted notes = finisher
  5. 00:58:436 (15) - How comes this is the only finisher here? I can understand if all 00:58:436 (15,16,17) - are finishers, but in current way, (15) stands as finisher rather alone.
  6. 01:01:164~01:05:709 - Vocal-Beat clash. Same suggestion like above.
  7. 01:20:982 - This note can be deleted to be consistent with 01:15:164 and provide some rest moments as well.
I think the Kantan can be still refined at certain parts. I see some good atempts here and if I'm not wrong, mapper tried to make it easy.
But maybe because of that try, it kinda went a bit out of hand in some parts? I'm not sure, but even so, it lacks a bit of structure on certain parts which has been mentioned before.

[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:21:345 (34,35) - Hm. Might be not bad to delete these notes for another rest moment as you had at 00:15:527 and 00:31:527. Yes, at 00:21:345 are some sounds for these patterns, but you have no rest moment from 00:16:255 to 00:30:800 for 14 seconds, which is much. In case you really dislike the change, you can try to have some restmoment, starting from 00:22:073 .
  2. 00:33:709~00:39:527 - This section should have less notes. When paying attention to the background and vocal, you notice that it is 'quieter'. It has less impact than the other parts before and aftwards, yet it provides the same amount of notes like the other parts. Please change that by reducing the note density here, so the differences become clear. It would also emphasize upcoming part due to rise of notes.
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:24:436 (71,72) - Recommending to keep the way you mapped before by deleting such notes and have at least small rest moments between notes.
  2. 00:33:709~00:39:527 - Same case like in Futsuu.
[ Oni]

To be honest, overall I'm fine with the Oni. But you should consider having at some parts less 1/4 notes like at 00:33:709 or making some patterns easier, for example the ooxox patterns. It's not a big jump from Muzu to Oni, but it is still significant at some point. While Muzu is mostly mapped to 1/2 patterns, Oni suddenly provides some complex patterns, such as two-plets bounded together with triplets or unique patterns like ddkdk in the kiai.


The spread from Muzu to Oni can be probably easy fixed. As I said, tuning down the Oni just a bit might be enough. But Kantan should have some checkes before it gets requalified again. Overall, good attempt. Good luck!
Topic Starter
ak74

OnosakiHito wrote:

Reason for Disqualification


  1. Disqualified for spread concerns between Oni and Muzukashii.
  2. There are also quality concerns about the vocal-beat mapping in Kantan.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Additional Modding



[ Kantan]
SPOILER
Kantan feels sometimes like a mix of beat-vocal mapping, which in most cases works fine with the vocal. Sometimes however, it doesn't work really well since the clash / conflict between vocal and beatmapping becomes too big (Tasha and Love noticed it and gave examples). I will mention it once again downbelow.

  1. 00:33:709 (36,40) - Note (36) is a finisher while (40) isn't one. For consistency, I would either delete the finisher or change (40) to one.
  2. 00:39:527~00:43:891 - That's one vocal-beat clash we have in this map. First, the previous 1/1 triplets follow the vocal in a nice way and then, suddenly at 00:39:527 it becomes a straight 2/1 pattern, which has just barely something to do with the vocal. It can be discussed about if it's now good or not, but it can confuse lower players since they do not know what to follow exactly. It might be enough to delete just the note at 00:40:255 (45) - to gain your previous mapping way back(the triplets).
  3. 00:43:891~00:46:800 - Not a must, but a spinner would be possible. After all these triplets, the spinner could fungate as "fake rest moment", since it doesn't need to be hit up to the end after all.
  4. 00:49:527~00:54:073 - Another vocal-beat clash. First and last patterns in this section fit to the vocal while the middle part are just straight 2/1 notes.
    I have something else to suggest, in case you want to follow the vocal(which are actually strong emphasized here):
    Highlighted notes = finisher
  5. 00:58:436 (15) - How comes this is the only finisher here? I can understand if all 00:58:436 (15,16,17) - are finishers, but in current way, (15) stands as finisher rather alone.
  6. 01:01:164~01:05:709 - Vocal-Beat clash. Same suggestion like above.
  7. 01:20:982 - This note can be deleted to be consistent with 01:15:164 and provide some rest moments as well.
I think the Kantan can be still refined at certain parts. I see some good atempts here and if I'm not wrong, mapper tried to make it easy.
But maybe because of that try, it kinda went a bit out of hand in some parts? I'm not sure, but even so, it lacks a bit of structure on certain parts which has been mentioned before.

All done.

[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:21:345 (34,35) - Hm. Might be not bad to delete these notes for another rest moment as you had at 00:15:527 and 00:31:527. Yes, at 00:21:345 are some sounds for these patterns, but you have no rest moment from 00:16:255 to 00:30:800 for 14 seconds, which is much. In case you really dislike the change, you can try to have some restmoment, starting from 00:22:073 .
  2. 00:33:709~00:39:527 - This section should have less notes. When paying attention to the background and vocal, you notice that it is 'quieter'. It has less impact than the other parts before and aftwards, yet it provides the same amount of notes like the other parts. Please change that by reducing the note density here, so the differences become clear. It would also emphasize upcoming part due to rise of notes.

    All done.
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:24:436 (71,72) - Recommending to keep the way you mapped before by deleting such notes and have at least small rest moments between notes.
  2. 00:33:709~00:39:527 - Same case like in Futsuu.

    All done.
[ Oni]

To be honest, overall I'm fine with the Oni. But you should consider having at some parts less 1/4 notes like at 00:33:709 or making some patterns easier, for example the ooxox patterns. It's not a big jump from Muzu to Oni, but it is still significant at some point. While Muzu is mostly mapped to 1/2 patterns, Oni suddenly provides some complex patterns, such as two-plets bounded together with triplets or unique patterns like ddkdk in the kiai.


The spread from Muzu to Oni can be probably easy fixed. As I said, tuning down the Oni just a bit might be enough. But Kantan should have some checkes before it gets requalified again. Overall, good attempt. Good luck!

All done.
Kurosanyan
~~~

[General]
  1. OD4,5 on Muzukashii? There's a big gap between Muzu and Oni so having the same OD is kinda...
  2. From 00:10:436 - until 00:49:527 - and again from 01:14:436 - until the end, it's hard to hear hitsounds, while the intro's hitsounds are loud in comparison.
    Consider: The whole map at 100% audio / Vocals at 100% and the instrumental intro at 70~80%
    Or: 00:00:255 - 60~70% 00:06:073 - 80~90% 00:10:436 - 90~100% 00:49:527 - 100% 01:14:436 - 90~100%
[Kantan]
  1. 00:39:527 (44) - Add a finish here too maybe?
  2. 01:08:618 (31) - Should be at 01:08:436 - to follow vocals correctly.
  3. 01:10:073 (33) - Same here, should be at 01:09:891 -
  4. 01:10:436 (34) - Remove this one maybe?
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:51:891 (167) - Delete for consistency with 00:50:436 - ? The current pattern might be a bit too hard for Muzu too.
[Oni]
  1. 00:36:618 (178) - d?
  2. 01:00:073 (311,312) - Add finishers? Those notes and the song are similar to the previous note.
That's all~
Yuzeyun
This is only a quick check; once you have applied the surrounding mods you may call me. #ForLuttii wait what

[General]
Preview point unsnapped! Snap to 00:49:345 - .

[Kantan]

01:02:618 (22) - For consistency with the first part, change to D.
01:13:709 (39,40,41) - Delete 40, to move 41 at 01:14:255 - . Vocally speaking it seems way more correct.
I didn't mention the other note misplacements, Kurosanyan has mentioned them already.

[Futsuu]
00:34:436 (56,57,58,59) - Why not a similar rhythm to Kantan ? Would fit a lot better to me.
00:37:345 (61,62,63,64) - ^
00:53:345 (95,96,97) - This rhythm feels a bit wrong, maybe have x . . x . x ? Something like this: http://i.chiyozel.com/eTKj9ymN, or http://i.chiyozel.com/805Vjic5 like you did on 01:04:618 (122,123,124,125) - . (Don't mind the colors! It's up to you to choose wisely)
01:14:073 (144,145) - If they were half a beat earlier, it would be correct regarding your vocal mapping.

[Muzu]
00:14:800 (42) - If 00:11:891 (32) - is to the guitar, make it k. Else, if 32 is to the vocal, invert 32 and 42.
00:30:618 (93,94,95) - No real cue for 1/4 here, you might want to delete the middle note.

[Oni]
00:26:982 (125,126,127,128) - and similar, I don't really get the point of such patterns :<
00:39:800 (195,196) - bu;w;
00:41:982 (207,208) - 不;w; (both patterns do not really have a cue to them)

Don't forget to answer Kurosanyan's mod! I didn't point out what was already pointed out ;)
Topic Starter
ak74

Kurosanyan wrote:

~~~

[General]
  1. OD4,5 on Muzukashii? There's a big gap between Muzu and Oni so having the same OD is kinda...
  2. From 00:10:436 - until 00:49:527 - and again from 01:14:436 - until the end, it's hard to hear hitsounds, while the intro's hitsounds are loud in comparison.
    Consider: The whole map at 100% audio / Vocals at 100% and the instrumental intro at 70~80%
    Or: 00:00:255 - 60~70% 00:06:073 - 80~90% 00:10:436 - 90~100% 00:49:527 - 100% 01:14:436 - 90~100%

    All done
[Kantan]
  1. 00:39:527 (44) - Add a finish here too maybe?
  2. 01:08:618 (31) - Should be at 01:08:436 - to follow vocals correctly.
  3. 01:10:073 (33) - Same here, should be at 01:09:891 -
  4. 01:10:436 (34) - Remove this one maybe?

    All done
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:51:891 (167) - Delete for consistency with 00:50:436 - ? The current pattern might be a bit too hard for Muzu too.

    Done
[Oni]
  1. 00:36:618 (178) - d?
  2. 01:00:073 (311,312) - Add finishers? Those notes and the song are similar to the previous note.

    All done
That's all~

Thx,very useful mod!
Topic Starter
ak74

_Gezo_ wrote:

This is only a quick check; once you have applied the surrounding mods you may call me. #ForLuttii wait what

[General]
Preview point unsnapped! Snap to 00:49:345 - .

Done.

[Kantan]

01:02:618 (22) - For consistency with the first part, change to D.
01:13:709 (39,40,41) - Delete 40, to move 41 at 01:14:255 - . Vocally speaking it seems way more correct.
I didn't mention the other note misplacements, Kurosanyan has mentioned them already.

All done.

[Futsuu]
00:34:436 (56,57,58,59) - Why not a similar rhythm to Kantan ? Would fit a lot better to me.
00:37:345 (61,62,63,64) - ^
00:53:345 (95,96,97) - This rhythm feels a bit wrong, maybe have x . . x . x ? Something like this: http://i.chiyozel.com/eTKj9ymN, or http://i.chiyozel.com/805Vjic5 like you did on 01:04:618 (122,123,124,125) - . (Don't mind the colors! It's up to you to choose wisely)
01:14:073 (144,145) - If they were half a beat earlier, it would be correct regarding your vocal mapping.

All done

[Muzu]
00:14:800 (42) - If 00:11:891 (32) - is to the guitar, make it k. Else, if 32 is to the vocal, invert 32 and 42. To the guitar yeah~
00:30:618 (93,94,95) - No real cue for 1/4 here, you might want to delete the middle note.

All done

[Oni]
00:26:982 (125,126,127,128) - and similar, I don't really get the point of such patterns :<
00:39:800 (195,196) - bu;w;
00:41:982 (207,208) - 不;w; (both patterns do not really have a cue to them)
tbh,I don't really think the patterns are bad.They just make the rhythm more smart.Hope to make further discussion with you ;w;

Don't forget to answer Kurosanyan's mod! I didn't point out what was already pointed out ;)

Thx!
Stefan
Good thing this will be bubbled soon. When it's bubbled, leave me a PM. Sorry for the huge delay~
Topic Starter
ak74

Stefan wrote:

Good thing this will be bubbled soon. When it's bubbled, leave me a PM. Sorry for the huge delay~
Yeah,thx!
qoot8123
NO KD

[General]
  1. Kantan 的 PreviewTime 跟其他難度不同
[Kantan]
  1. 00:56:800 (13,14,16) - 顏色對調,跟vocal比較合
  2. 01:02:073 (21,23) - ^
  3. 01:14:255 (39) - 移到01:14:436 - ,位置放錯了
[futsuu]
  1. 01:14:255 (145) - 同kantan
[oni]
  1. 00:23:436 (104) - 換成don,比較能加強00:23:527 (105) - 這裡的kat
  2. 00:25:345 (116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125) - 這裡改成這樣,跟vocal比較合
  3. 00:38:255 (189,190) - 這兩個note調換,跟00:35:164 (172,173,175) - 做對比
  4. 00:53:164 (274,276) -ctrl+g,跟vocal比較合
Topic Starter
ak74

qoot8123 wrote:

NO KD

[General]
  1. Kantan 的 PreviewTime 跟其他難度不同
[Kantan]
  1. 00:56:800 (13,14,16) - 顏色對調,跟vocal比較合
  2. 01:02:073 (21,23) - ^
  3. 01:14:255 (39) - 移到01:14:436 - ,位置放錯了
[futsuu]
  1. 01:14:255 (145) - 同kantan
[oni]
  1. 00:23:436 (104) - 換成don,比較能加強00:23:527 (105) - 這裡的kat
  2. 00:25:345 (116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125) - 這裡改成這樣,跟vocal比較合
  3. 00:38:255 (189,190) - 這兩個note調換,跟00:35:164 (172,173,175) - 做對比
  4. 00:53:164 (274,276) -ctrl+g,跟vocal比較合
All done.
Besides, 01:14:255 这个地方我记得好像是一个摸说的,合vocal,不过我还是改了
qoot8123
okay, looks fine now

Bubbled!
DakeDekaane
I don't know if Stefan will be checking this, but I'll drop a small mod anyway.

[ Kantan]
00:42:800 - A note here could be cool to have the vocal phrase fully mapped.
01:14:436 - 01:16:618 - A spinner could fit nicely for vocals, and will fit better and will be somehow consistent with your other spinners.
01:17:345 (42) - If you put the spinner I suggested above, move this note to 01:17:709 - for vocals.
01:20:073 (46) - This should be a big note, it has the same emphasis as 01:18:800 (44,45). Alternatively, you could put a spinner in 01:20:073 - 01:21:709 - to be consistent with 01:25:891 (1) - , not a must, though.

[ Futsuu]
00:25:345 (39) - Could be moved to 00:25:345 (39) - , so it's consistent with 00:27:164 (42,43,44) - as rhythm isn't much different here.
00:42:436 (70) - Probably remove to focus a bit more on vocals, as you've been doing.
00:43:891 - 00:46:800 - You could use a spinner here as you did in Kantan, not a must.

[ Muzukashii]
00:09:345 (23,24,25,26) - These notes could be removed to create a break that could fit nicely with the instrument you followed in 00:06:073 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22) -

[ Oni]
00:10:073 (34) - Could be removed to have a small break. Do it if you did what I suggested in Muzukashii for this part.

That's all.
Topic Starter
ak74

DakeDekaane wrote:

I don't know if Stefan will be checking this, but I'll drop a small mod anyway.

[ Kantan]
00:42:800 - A note here could be cool to have the vocal phrase fully mapped.
01:14:436 - 01:16:618 - A spinner could fit nicely for vocals, and will fit better and will be somehow consistent with your other spinners.
01:17:345 (42) - If you put the spinner I suggested above, move this note to 01:17:709 - for vocals. I add the spinner but didn't use this
01:20:073 (46) - This should be a big note, it has the same emphasis as 01:18:800 (44,45). Alternatively, you could put a spinner in 01:20:073 - 01:21:709 - to be consistent with 01:25:891 (1) - , not a must, though.
All done except the one I mention.

[ Futsuu]
00:25:345 (39) - Could be moved to 00:25:345 (39) - , so it's consistent with 00:27:164 (42,43,44) - as rhythm isn't much different here.
00:42:436 (70) - Probably remove to focus a bit more on vocals, as you've been doing.
00:43:891 - 00:46:800 - You could use a spinner here as you did in Kantan, not a must.
All done.

[ Muzukashii]
00:09:345 (23,24,25,26) - These notes could be removed to create a break that could fit nicely with the instrument you followed in 00:06:073 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22) -
Done

[ Oni]
00:10:073 (34) - Could be removed to have a small break. Do it if you did what I suggested in Muzukashii for this part. :D
ehhh..I really want to keep this...but if you determine,I'll revise it
That's all.
Thx!
Love
Checking this tomorrow, got a request the day-of the disqualify.
Topic Starter
ak74

Love wrote:

Checking this tomorrow, got a request the day-of the disqualify.

Yeah,thx!~
Love
Well, here it is, took a while.

[Kantan]
  1. 00:58:982 (17,18) - Move these over to 00:59:709 - and 01:00:436 - respectively. This will change the break a bit more so that it builds up into the next part of the kiai instead of having an awkward pause.
  2. 01:04:618 (26) - Delete this for consistency from the first part of the kiai.
  3. 01:18:073 (2,3,4,5) - This was a bit weird to me, so instead try doing this:
    01:18:073 (2) - Delete this.
    01:18:800 - Change this to a D.
    01:19:345 - Remove the finisher on this so it's just a k.
    01:19:709 - add a k on here.
  4. 01:25:527 - Add a k on here as well and remove the finisher on the note before it so that it's just a k.
Overall, anything before the kiai could use some kind of off-beat notes so that the kiai isn't so different.

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:07:527 (12,13,14,15,16) - Make this k k d d K instead.
  2. 00:10:436 - 00:20:618 - I honestly do not know why you started out with 2/1s, then started doing 1/1 triples.
  3. 00:22:073 - 00:30:800 - You should really think about using more 1/2 off-beats like 00:24:073 - 00:24:436 - and on 00:30:618 - so that the kiai isn't so different. Keep this consistent if you choose to use the 1/2 off-beats.
  4. 00:33:709 - 00:39:527 - This would be a lot better if you emphasized a lot on the vocals and blended the rhythm with it like this: http://puu.sh/dXJNt/9109bb9628.png with finishers on 00:33:709 - 00:34:800 - 00:37:709 - 00:39:527.
  5. Delete the notes on 00:58:982 - 00:59:345.
  6. 01:14:436 - Move the note on here to 01:14:255 to match the vocal.
  7. 01:16:255 - Delete the note on here.
  8. 01:19:709 - Delete this note as well?
Same thing as said before, anything before the kiai could use some off-beat 1/2 vocals to help the player notice that there are these kinds of patterns within the map later on.

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:13:164 (32) - Delete this, you don't want to jump too far from the futsuu.
  2. 00:18:982 (49) - Delete this as well.
  3. 00:27:709 (76) - This doesn't need to be here as well.
  4. 00:30:618 (86) - ^
  5. 00:40:618 (118,120) - Delete these for the transition.
  6. 00:42:073 - ^
  7. 00:50:618 (149,150,151) - 00:52:073 (156,157,158) - I don't know what these triples are even trying to emphasize.
    00:54:073 - 00:54:982 - This pause is really random and unnecessary with the awkward triple on 00:55:164. So fill it up like this from 00:54:255 - 00:55:345: http://puu.sh/dXM4J/c5d74c0a84.png
  8. Rest of the kiai has the random triple problem as well and should be fixed until 01:11:345. That stamp to the end of the kiai is absolutely fine.
  9. Change this to a k to match the guitar, gives a pretty unique pattern.
  10. 01:22:436 (270) - ^
[Oni]
  1. 00:02:982 (8) - Delete this, you should build up to the first chorus with a relaxed intro, even if it means undermapping some of the piano.
  2. 00:07:073 (19,21) - Delete these for the reason above even though this is a little bit of overmapping.
  3. 00:08:891 (27) - ^
    I'm just going to stop here, the Oni gets pretty hectic for the rest of the map and it doesn't scale well at all with the Muzukashii. There are a lot of problems such as pretty intense patterns that shouldn't be here due to the few notes in the Muzukashii and just extended patterns and triplets everywhere that could've been done differently to help with the current spread problems. The jump is pretty big and the Oni should be pushed down a little bit to help compensate for it.
In all, this shouldn't have been pushed through before and you should've had more mods as well. Use some of the tips I gave you, such as using the vocals a bit more to provide more off-beats instead of bland 1/1 patterns. Don't think of using 1/2 off-beats as a bad thing, it's your friend and wants more attention so that others can have fun learning the mode with patterns they can learn from early on.
Topic Starter
ak74

Love wrote:

Well, here it is, took a while.

[Kantan]
  1. 00:58:982 (17,18) - Move these over to 00:59:709 - and 01:00:436 - respectively. This will change the break a bit more so that it builds up into the next part of the kiai instead of having an awkward pause.
  2. 01:04:618 (26) - Delete this for consistency from the first part of the kiai.
  3. 01:18:073 (2,3,4,5) - This was a bit weird to me, so instead try doing this:
    01:18:073 (2) - Delete this.
    01:18:800 - Change this to a D.
    01:19:345 - Remove the finisher on this so it's just a k.
    01:19:709 - add a k on here.
  4. 01:25:527 - Add a k on here as well and remove the finisher on the note before it so that it's just a k.
Overall, anything before the kiai could use some kind of off-beat notes so that the kiai isn't so different.

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:07:527 (12,13,14,15,16) - Make this k k d d K instead.
  2. 00:10:436 - 00:20:618 - I honestly do not know why you started out with 2/1s, then started doing 1/1 triples.
  3. 00:22:073 - 00:30:800 - You should really think about using more 1/2 off-beats like 00:24:073 - 00:24:436 - and on 00:30:618 - so that the kiai isn't so different. Keep this consistent if you choose to use the 1/2 off-beats.
  4. 00:33:709 - 00:39:527 - This would be a lot better if you emphasized a lot on the vocals and blended the rhythm with it like this: http://puu.sh/dXJNt/9109bb9628.png with finishers on 00:33:709 - 00:34:800 - 00:37:709 - 00:39:527.
  5. Delete the notes on 00:58:982 - 00:59:345.
  6. 01:14:436 - Move the note on here to 01:14:255 to match the vocal.
  7. 01:16:255 - Delete the note on here.
  8. 01:19:709 - Delete this note as well?
Same thing as said before, anything before the kiai could use some off-beat 1/2 vocals to help the player notice that there are these kinds of patterns within the map later on.

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:13:164 (32) - Delete this, you don't want to jump too far from the futsuu.
  2. 00:18:982 (49) - Delete this as well.
  3. 00:27:709 (76) - This doesn't need to be here as well.
  4. 00:30:618 (86) - ^
  5. 00:40:618 (118,120) - Delete these for the transition.
  6. 00:42:073 - ^
  7. 00:50:618 (149,150,151) - 00:52:073 (156,157,158) - I don't know what these triples are even trying to emphasize.
    00:54:073 - 00:54:982 - This pause is really random and unnecessary with the awkward triple on 00:55:164. So fill it up like this from 00:54:255 - 00:55:345: http://puu.sh/dXM4J/c5d74c0a84.png
  8. Rest of the kiai has the random triple problem as well and should be fixed until 01:11:345. That stamp to the end of the kiai is absolutely fine.
  9. Change this to a k to match the guitar, gives a pretty unique pattern.
  10. 01:22:436 (270) - ^
[Oni]
  1. 00:02:982 (8) - Delete this, you should build up to the first chorus with a relaxed intro, even if it means undermapping some of the piano.
  2. 00:07:073 (19,21) - Delete these for the reason above even though this is a little bit of overmapping.
  3. 00:08:891 (27) - ^
    I'm just going to stop here, the Oni gets pretty hectic for the rest of the map and it doesn't scale well at all with the Muzukashii. There are a lot of problems such as pretty intense patterns that shouldn't be here due to the few notes in the Muzukashii and just extended patterns and triplets everywhere that could've been done differently to help with the current spread problems. The jump is pretty big and the Oni should be pushed down a little bit to help compensate for it.
In all, this shouldn't have been pushed through before and you should've had more mods as well. Use some of the tips I gave you, such as using the vocals a bit more to provide more off-beats instead of bland 1/1 patterns. Don't think of using 1/2 off-beats as a bad thing, it's your friend and wants more attention so that others can have fun learning the mode with patterns they can learn from early on.
If you update it,you'll find I just fix some,sorry.
I will ask other BAT's suggestions,cuz I want to make the map a little harder instead of ...pushing it down entirely.I just can't understand...
But your mods are really valuable.
Really sorry and really thx.
Momochikun
hi, correct title should be どんなときもずっと(TVサイズ) , then you should add Donna Toki mo Zutto (TV Size) for the romanized one.
source: http://www.lovelive-anime.jp/release.html
Also i'd prefer if you add the original language on the source instead, you can put the english one on tags. That's much fitting imo



more u's :P
Topic Starter
ak74

Momochikun wrote:

hi, correct title should be どんなときもずっと(TVサイズ) , then you should add Donna Toki mo Zutto (TV Size) for the romanized one.
source: http://www.lovelive-anime.jp/release.html
Also i'd prefer if you add the original language on the source instead, you can put the english one on tags. That's much fitting imo



more u's :P
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
really really Thx!
:)

more u's of course!
Stefan
Have modded with ak74qbz95xm8 via IRC:
Yeah I am damn lazy
15:06 ak74qbz95xm8: Hi Stefan
15:07 Stefan: hey
15:07 ak74qbz95xm8: do you have time now?
15:08 ak74qbz95xm8: Is my map worth a qualify or need further mods?
15:09 Stefan: uh.. I am pretty much wrecked after 31 hours without sleep and 16 hours after sleep.. but let me see
15:09 Stefan: All updates of Love and Dake are in?
15:09 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah sure
15:09 Stefan: ok
15:14 Stefan: can we do some IRC modding?
15:14 Stefan: .
15:22 Stefan: k
15:22 Stefan: ahhh
15:49 ak74qbz95xm8: hi stefan?
15:49 ak74qbz95xm8: fall asleep?(#°Д°)
15:50 Stefan: no no
15:50 Stefan: But great you came back: http://puu.sh/dYcph/f351244e93.jpg
15:51 ak74qbz95xm8: ohhhh
15:51 ak74qbz95xm8: sorry I just restart osu...
15:51 Stefan: It's ok
15:52 ak74qbz95xm8: IRC modding is absolutely alright
15:52 Stefan: Ok.
15:58 Stefan: alright
15:58 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/447389 u's - Donna Toki mo Zutto [Kantan]]
15:59 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
15:59 Stefan: got trouble with someone being annoying and that.. <_>
15:59 Stefan: 00:14:073 (14,15) - swap them, having a good replayability (since you were using dkd kdk dkd kdk then) is a good way to stabilize the switch of keys.
15:59 ak74qbz95xm8: done
16:01 Stefan: 00:30:073 (30,31,32) - Personally I don't it really fitting here. 00:30:436 (31) sounds more like filling. 00:32:255 (33,34,35) or 00:35:164 (37,38,39) are used well to have ooo being mapped.
16:01 Stefan: * 00:35:164 (37,38,39) -
16:02 Stefan: rip english
16:02 ak74qbz95xm8: lol
16:03 Stefan: But I guess you understand what I mean.
16:03 ak74qbz95xm8: umm
16:03 ak74qbz95xm8: I just delete 00:30:436
16:03 Stefan: that's fine.
16:04 ak74qbz95xm8: 00:30:436 ()31
16:04 Stefan: Maybe 00:30:073 (30,31) - could be swapped then?
16:04 Stefan: I find 00:30:800 - sounds lighter than 00:30:073 -
16:04 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:05 ak74qbz95xm8: done
16:06 Stefan: 00:49:527 - 00:53:891 - That really sounds off to play.
16:07 ak74qbz95xm8: umm
16:07 ak74qbz95xm8: It's the problem Ono pointed out
16:07 Stefan: Meh.. the song is really weird here.
16:07 Stefan: Sounds like 00:49:527 - would need a new offset
16:08 ak74qbz95xm8: cuz normal 1/2 don't fit the vocal...
16:08 Stefan: Hm? I found they fit great
16:08 ak74qbz95xm8: ahhh
16:08 Stefan: http://puu.sh/dYgRr/8a26f5b605.jpg
16:08 ak74qbz95xm8: I got it qualified because of that
16:08 ak74qbz95xm8: disqualified*
16:09 Stefan: ó_ó well..
16:09 Stefan: Let me read his post
16:09 ak74qbz95xm8: wait...
16:09 ak74qbz95xm8: ohh I'm wrong
16:09 ak74qbz95xm8: I put them on white line
16:09 ak74qbz95xm8: ;w;
16:11 Stefan: Wait
16:11 Stefan: suddenly vocal-mapping is a thing?
16:11 Stefan: wtf
16:12 Stefan: I really feel like this actually needs an offset here.
16:12 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:12 ak74qbz95xm8: I'll have a try
16:12 Stefan: http://puu.sh/dYhjF/82e75d1976.jpg with Offset
16:13 Stefan: 00:55:345 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - with offset: http://puu.sh/dYhlt/ca3c9c70da.jpg
16:13 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
16:13 ak74qbz95xm8: I've done it
16:13 Stefan: wait wait wait
16:14 Stefan: I need someone to confirm this first ;A;
16:14 ak74qbz95xm8: ;A;
16:15 ak74qbz95xm8: then I just need to wait? ;w;
16:15 Stefan: if I can catch someone really quick then no.
16:16 ak74qbz95xm8: alright..
16:18 Stefan: Okay, Shiro is checking, you're lucky. :P
16:18 ak74qbz95xm8: 。
16:18 ak74qbz95xm8: wowowowowooww
16:19 Stefan: But honestly I don't see how this doesn't need another offset.
16:19 ak74qbz95xm8: I looked for him several days ago
16:19 ak74qbz95xm8: and he beautifully refused
16:19 ak74qbz95xm8: ;w;
16:19 Stefan: well.. http://puu.sh/dYi0f/8ebdf164f5.jpg
16:20 Stefan: It doesn't should be added then
16:20 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:20 Stefan: Still it's a horrible rhythm to me but when Ono said that...
16:21 Stefan: Well, change it back to that what Ono suggested. (sorry for inconvinence)
16:21 ak74qbz95xm8: my song-choosing has some problems
16:21 Stefan: I would make 00:50:436 (3) - as k too (you got k d here atm)
16:22 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
16:24 Stefan: I still wonder what's so suddenly bad on vocal-mapping.. but well, we don't want this to be disqualified again.
16:24 ak74qbz95xm8: thx understanding
16:24 ak74qbz95xm8: QAQ
16:25 Stefan: 01:02:073 (21) - should be k too
16:25 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
16:27 Stefan: btw, p/3637633
16:27 Stefan: Fix this meanwhile
16:27 ak74qbz95xm8: you mean Momochikun?
16:28 Stefan: yes
16:28 ak74qbz95xm8: I've just seen it
16:30 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:32 Stefan: 01:13:709 (38) - I'd leave it out, unlike 01:10:800 (34,35,36,37) - this note is the only one which doesn't sounds so strong to be mapped.
16:33 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:33 ak74qbz95xm8: I delete it
16:36 ak74qbz95xm8: wait
16:36 ak74qbz95xm8: I want to ask a question
16:36 ak74qbz95xm8: I've changed the title
16:36 ak74qbz95xm8: will I update a "new" beatmap?
16:37 Stefan: no
16:37 Stefan: Unless your update say it will do
16:37 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
16:37 ak74qbz95xm8: it says so
16:37 Stefan: But due your Upload ID in your map that should not happen.
16:37 Stefan: hmmmm
16:37 Stefan: Okay, change it back then
16:37 Stefan: Except on one map
16:37 Stefan: *Difficulty
16:38 Stefan: Upload the map now but do not have the one opened with the new metadata.
16:40 ak74qbz95xm8: except?
16:40 ak74qbz95xm8: or expert?
16:40 Stefan: nah, I meant except.
16:41 ak74qbz95xm8: except one
16:42 ak74qbz95xm8: and upload?
16:42 Stefan: Yes, except one. So all Difficulties have the old metadata now?
16:42 Stefan: Or is one different?
16:43 ak74qbz95xm8: uploading...
16:43 ak74qbz95xm8: wait please,thx
16:44 ak74qbz95xm8: one different
16:46 Stefan: Which one is different?
16:46 ak74qbz95xm8: Oni
16:46 ak74qbz95xm8: the one I keep
16:47 ak74qbz95xm8: and now I change other 3 diffs' metadata
16:47 ak74qbz95xm8: is it right?
16:47 Stefan: Yes
16:48 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
16:48 ak74qbz95xm8: thx a lot
16:48 ak74qbz95xm8: hard to express
16:48 ak74qbz95xm8: ;w;
16:50 Stefan: Eh.. does it appear as "Latest pending version" in the beatmap selection?
16:50 ak74qbz95xm8: not submitted x3
16:51 ak74qbz95xm8: latest pending version x1
16:51 ak74qbz95xm8: wait for my restart ;w;
16:52 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:52 ak74qbz95xm8: everything well now
16:52 Stefan: yes, works for me too now -w-)b
16:52 ak74qbz95xm8: lol
16:53 ak74qbz95xm8: really thx ><
16:54 ak74qbz95xm8: go on modding?
16:54 Stefan: yes
16:55 Stefan: I will look for Kantan at end again.
16:55 Stefan: Now on futsuu
16:55 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
16:55 ak74qbz95xm8: thx
16:57 Stefan: 01:15:527 (67) - I find the sound on 01:16:982 - is way stronger
16:58 Stefan: and the note should be moved there. Only if you agree with me.
16:58 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
16:58 ak74qbz95xm8: done
17:03 ak74qbz95xm8: I found that star jumps between Kantan and Futsuu is a problem now...
17:03 Stefan: Hmm
17:03 Stefan: We'll solve this
17:03 Stefan: don't worry
17:05 ak74qbz95xm8: ok,thx
17:18 Stefan: 00:25:709 (41) -
17:18 Stefan: this could be removed to have a litte longer break
17:18 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
17:19 Stefan: 00:53:527 (17) - I'd leave this note out because I find the note placement on 00:52:982 (15,16,18) - is enough to present the music and rhythm you mapped.
17:20 ak74qbz95xm8: done
17:24 ak74qbz95xm8: Futsuu 2.13 now.
17:24 ak74qbz95xm8: ._.
17:25 Stefan: That's not bad? o.o
17:25 Stefan: I find it worse that Kantan is almost two Stars
17:25 ak74qbz95xm8: I just worry it..
17:25 Stefan: nah
17:25 Stefan: Star rating doesn't matter much
17:25 ak74qbz95xm8: ok,I see
17:25 Stefan: Unless it's something like 1 Star on Kantan and 3 Stars on Futsuu
17:26 ak74qbz95xm8: I'm not similar with mapping system...
17:26 ak74qbz95xm8: so thank you for telling me
17:27 ak74qbz95xm8: ranking maps system*
17:27 Stefan: don't worry
17:28 ak74qbz95xm8: OK
17:32 Stefan: 00:59:709 (30,31) - should be moved to 00:59:345 - / 00:59:709 - http://puu.sh/dYpXr/b6a3f85d68.jpg
17:33 ak74qbz95xm8: done
17:35 ak74qbz95xm8: hey did I get offline just now?
17:35 Stefan: no
17:36 Stefan: 01:08:982 (52) - I'd perfer having a longer break here by removing this note
17:36 ak74qbz95xm8: donw
17:36 ak74qbz95xm8: e*
17:38 Stefan: 01:10:436 (55) - same reason
17:39 ak74qbz95xm8: donw
17:39 ak74qbz95xm8: e*
17:41 ak74qbz95xm8: hi stefan?
17:42 ak74qbz95xm8: sorry but... can you mod in thread>
17:42 ak74qbz95xm8: ?
17:42 Stefan: sure, I am done with Futsuu anyway
17:42 ak74qbz95xm8: it's 00:42 in China now...I'm tired too and have to wake up early tomorrow
17:42 Stefan: I will mod Muzu and Oni in the thread
17:42 ak74qbz95xm8: ok,thx a lot
17:42 ak74qbz95xm8: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
17:42 Stefan: good night :3/

[Kantan]
00:51:891 (6) - Change this to k, you forgot to do.

[Futsuu]
00:22:800 (36,37) - swap them, feels smoother to play dkd k d kdk
01:08:982 (53,57) - I've mentioned to remove them, I found them not really sufficient to play
01:11:527 (60,61) - Finishers to emphasize?

[Muzukashii]
00:14:436 (36,37,38) - I found they played better on dkd.
00:26:800 (74) - By looking on the previous parts you always made here a break, I would be consistent and remove this note since it's a really long combo line.
00:27:709 (78) - I find the intention mapping this beat here is wrong, it feels more you focus on the vocals and on this time there is none. I suggest to remove this.
00:34:073 (99,109) - to have more break times between 00:33:709 - 00:39:527 you need to remove these notes.
00:40:982 (121) - maybe you could remove this note too, what do you think?
00:45:164 (134,136) - (134) sounds quite spammy, would remove. And the sound on (136)'s time is pretty light, maybe k too?
00:57:164 (179,180,181,182,183,184) - This is REALLY awkward but not because of your pattern. But the song has a really weird transistion.. well, I'd leave 00:57:709 (182,183) out.
01:08:800 (220,225) - Same issue I've pointed out in Futsuu on 01:08:982 (53,57).
01:11:345 (229,231) - Suggesting to remove (229), (231) should strongly be removed, you lack on breaks here.
01:14:073 (240,241,242,243) - The triplet is really misplaced imo, I consider to remove 01:14:073 (240,241,242) and leave 01:14:436 (243) alone.
01:17:709 (255) - Should be removed for a little 1/1 break.
01:22:982 (274) - Since you haven't put a note between 01:16:982 (253,254) you shouldn't do this here too. there is no extra beat or so.
01:23:527 (276) - same like 01:17:709 (255).

[Oni]
Looks fine to me.


Well.. sorry. I am lazy orz

Kantan, Futsuu and Oni looks good now. I maybe will look once again about the Oni. Look about the Muzukashii Difficulty, when you're done call me back.
Topic Starter
ak74

Stefan wrote:

Have modded with ak74qbz95xm8 via IRC:
Yeah I am damn lazy
15:06 ak74qbz95xm8: Hi Stefan
15:07 Stefan: hey
15:07 ak74qbz95xm8: do you have time now?
15:08 ak74qbz95xm8: Is my map worth a qualify or need further mods?
15:09 Stefan: uh.. I am pretty much wrecked after 31 hours without sleep and 16 hours after sleep.. but let me see
15:09 Stefan: All updates of Love and Dake are in?
15:09 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah sure
15:09 Stefan: ok
15:14 Stefan: can we do some IRC modding?
15:14 Stefan: .
15:22 Stefan: k
15:22 Stefan: ahhh
15:49 ak74qbz95xm8: hi stefan?
15:49 ak74qbz95xm8: fall asleep?(#°Д°)
15:50 Stefan: no no
15:50 Stefan: But great you came back: http://puu.sh/dYcph/f351244e93.jpg
15:51 ak74qbz95xm8: ohhhh
15:51 ak74qbz95xm8: sorry I just restart osu...
15:51 Stefan: It's ok
15:52 ak74qbz95xm8: IRC modding is absolutely alright
15:52 Stefan: Ok.
15:58 Stefan: alright
15:58 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/447389 u's - Donna Toki mo Zutto [Kantan]]
15:59 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
15:59 Stefan: got trouble with someone being annoying and that.. <_>
15:59 Stefan: 00:14:073 (14,15) - swap them, having a good replayability (since you were using dkd kdk dkd kdk then) is a good way to stabilize the switch of keys.
15:59 ak74qbz95xm8: done
16:01 Stefan: 00:30:073 (30,31,32) - Personally I don't it really fitting here. 00:30:436 (31) sounds more like filling. 00:32:255 (33,34,35) or 00:35:164 (37,38,39) are used well to have ooo being mapped.
16:01 Stefan: * 00:35:164 (37,38,39) -
16:02 Stefan: rip english
16:02 ak74qbz95xm8: lol
16:03 Stefan: But I guess you understand what I mean.
16:03 ak74qbz95xm8: umm
16:03 ak74qbz95xm8: I just delete 00:30:436
16:03 Stefan: that's fine.
16:04 ak74qbz95xm8: 00:30:436 ()31
16:04 Stefan: Maybe 00:30:073 (30,31) - could be swapped then?
16:04 Stefan: I find 00:30:800 - sounds lighter than 00:30:073 -
16:04 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:05 ak74qbz95xm8: done
16:06 Stefan: 00:49:527 - 00:53:891 - That really sounds off to play.
16:07 ak74qbz95xm8: umm
16:07 ak74qbz95xm8: It's the problem Ono pointed out
16:07 Stefan: Meh.. the song is really weird here.
16:07 Stefan: Sounds like 00:49:527 - would need a new offset
16:08 ak74qbz95xm8: cuz normal 1/2 don't fit the vocal...
16:08 Stefan: Hm? I found they fit great
16:08 ak74qbz95xm8: ahhh
16:08 Stefan: http://puu.sh/dYgRr/8a26f5b605.jpg
16:08 ak74qbz95xm8: I got it qualified because of that
16:08 ak74qbz95xm8: disqualified*
16:09 Stefan: ó_ó well..
16:09 Stefan: Let me read his post
16:09 ak74qbz95xm8: wait...
16:09 ak74qbz95xm8: ohh I'm wrong
16:09 ak74qbz95xm8: I put them on white line
16:09 ak74qbz95xm8: ;w;
16:11 Stefan: Wait
16:11 Stefan: suddenly vocal-mapping is a thing?
16:11 Stefan: wtf
16:12 Stefan: I really feel like this actually needs an offset here.
16:12 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:12 ak74qbz95xm8: I'll have a try
16:12 Stefan: http://puu.sh/dYhjF/82e75d1976.jpg with Offset
16:13 Stefan: 00:55:345 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - with offset: http://puu.sh/dYhlt/ca3c9c70da.jpg
16:13 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
16:13 ak74qbz95xm8: I've done it
16:13 Stefan: wait wait wait
16:14 Stefan: I need someone to confirm this first ;A;
16:14 ak74qbz95xm8: ;A;
16:15 ak74qbz95xm8: then I just need to wait? ;w;
16:15 Stefan: if I can catch someone really quick then no.
16:16 ak74qbz95xm8: alright..
16:18 Stefan: Okay, Shiro is checking, you're lucky. :P
16:18 ak74qbz95xm8: 。
16:18 ak74qbz95xm8: wowowowowooww
16:19 Stefan: But honestly I don't see how this doesn't need another offset.
16:19 ak74qbz95xm8: I looked for him several days ago
16:19 ak74qbz95xm8: and he beautifully refused
16:19 ak74qbz95xm8: ;w;
16:19 Stefan: well.. http://puu.sh/dYi0f/8ebdf164f5.jpg
16:20 Stefan: It doesn't should be added then
16:20 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:20 Stefan: Still it's a horrible rhythm to me but when Ono said that...
16:21 Stefan: Well, change it back to that what Ono suggested. (sorry for inconvinence)
16:21 ak74qbz95xm8: my song-choosing has some problems
16:21 Stefan: I would make 00:50:436 (3) - as k too (you got k d here atm)
16:22 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
16:24 Stefan: I still wonder what's so suddenly bad on vocal-mapping.. but well, we don't want this to be disqualified again.
16:24 ak74qbz95xm8: thx understanding
16:24 ak74qbz95xm8: QAQ
16:25 Stefan: 01:02:073 (21) - should be k too
16:25 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
16:27 Stefan: btw, https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3637633
16:27 Stefan: Fix this meanwhile
16:27 ak74qbz95xm8: you mean Momochikun?
16:28 Stefan: yes
16:28 ak74qbz95xm8: I've just seen it
16:30 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:32 Stefan: 01:13:709 (38) - I'd leave it out, unlike 01:10:800 (34,35,36,37) - this note is the only one which doesn't sounds so strong to be mapped.
16:33 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:33 ak74qbz95xm8: I delete it
16:36 ak74qbz95xm8: wait
16:36 ak74qbz95xm8: I want to ask a question
16:36 ak74qbz95xm8: I've changed the title
16:36 ak74qbz95xm8: will I update a "new" beatmap?
16:37 Stefan: no
16:37 Stefan: Unless your update say it will do
16:37 ak74qbz95xm8: yeah
16:37 ak74qbz95xm8: it says so
16:37 Stefan: But due your Upload ID in your map that should not happen.
16:37 Stefan: hmmmm
16:37 Stefan: Okay, change it back then
16:37 Stefan: Except on one map
16:37 Stefan: *Difficulty
16:38 Stefan: Upload the map now but do not have the one opened with the new metadata.
16:40 ak74qbz95xm8: except?
16:40 ak74qbz95xm8: or expert?
16:40 Stefan: nah, I meant except.
16:41 ak74qbz95xm8: except one
16:42 ak74qbz95xm8: and upload?
16:42 Stefan: Yes, except one. So all Difficulties have the old metadata now?
16:42 Stefan: Or is one different?
16:43 ak74qbz95xm8: uploading...
16:43 ak74qbz95xm8: wait please,thx
16:44 ak74qbz95xm8: one different
16:46 Stefan: Which one is different?
16:46 ak74qbz95xm8: Oni
16:46 ak74qbz95xm8: the one I keep
16:47 ak74qbz95xm8: and now I change other 3 diffs' metadata
16:47 ak74qbz95xm8: is it right?
16:47 Stefan: Yes
16:48 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
16:48 ak74qbz95xm8: thx a lot
16:48 ak74qbz95xm8: hard to express
16:48 ak74qbz95xm8: ;w;
16:50 Stefan: Eh.. does it appear as "Latest pending version" in the beatmap selection?
16:50 ak74qbz95xm8: not submitted x3
16:51 ak74qbz95xm8: latest pending version x1
16:51 ak74qbz95xm8: wait for my restart ;w;
16:52 ak74qbz95xm8: alright
16:52 ak74qbz95xm8: everything well now
16:52 Stefan: yes, works for me too now -w-)b
16:52 ak74qbz95xm8: lol
16:53 ak74qbz95xm8: really thx ><
16:54 ak74qbz95xm8: go on modding?
16:54 Stefan: yes
16:55 Stefan: I will look for Kantan at end again.
16:55 Stefan: Now on futsuu
16:55 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
16:55 ak74qbz95xm8: thx
16:57 Stefan: 01:15:527 (67) - I find the sound on 01:16:982 - is way stronger
16:58 Stefan: and the note should be moved there. Only if you agree with me.
16:58 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
16:58 ak74qbz95xm8: done
17:03 ak74qbz95xm8: I found that star jumps between Kantan and Futsuu is a problem now...
17:03 Stefan: Hmm
17:03 Stefan: We'll solve this
17:03 Stefan: don't worry
17:05 ak74qbz95xm8: ok,thx
17:18 Stefan: 00:25:709 (41) -
17:18 Stefan: this could be removed to have a litte longer break
17:18 ak74qbz95xm8: ok
17:19 Stefan: 00:53:527 (17) - I'd leave this note out because I find the note placement on 00:52:982 (15,16,18) - is enough to present the music and rhythm you mapped.
17:20 ak74qbz95xm8: done
17:24 ak74qbz95xm8: Futsuu 2.13 now.
17:24 ak74qbz95xm8: ._.
17:25 Stefan: That's not bad? o.o
17:25 Stefan: I find it worse that Kantan is almost two Stars
17:25 ak74qbz95xm8: I just worry it..
17:25 Stefan: nah
17:25 Stefan: Star rating doesn't matter much
17:25 ak74qbz95xm8: ok,I see
17:25 Stefan: Unless it's something like 1 Star on Kantan and 3 Stars on Futsuu
17:26 ak74qbz95xm8: I'm not similar with mapping system...
17:26 ak74qbz95xm8: so thank you for telling me
17:27 ak74qbz95xm8: ranking maps system*
17:27 Stefan: don't worry
17:28 ak74qbz95xm8: OK
17:32 Stefan: 00:59:709 (30,31) - should be moved to 00:59:345 - / 00:59:709 - http://puu.sh/dYpXr/b6a3f85d68.jpg
17:33 ak74qbz95xm8: done
17:35 ak74qbz95xm8: hey did I get offline just now?
17:35 Stefan: no
17:36 Stefan: 01:08:982 (52) - I'd perfer having a longer break here by removing this note
17:36 ak74qbz95xm8: donw
17:36 ak74qbz95xm8: e*
17:38 Stefan: 01:10:436 (55) - same reason
17:39 ak74qbz95xm8: donw
17:39 ak74qbz95xm8: e*
17:41 ak74qbz95xm8: hi stefan?
17:42 ak74qbz95xm8: sorry but... can you mod in thread>
17:42 ak74qbz95xm8: ?
17:42 Stefan: sure, I am done with Futsuu anyway
17:42 ak74qbz95xm8: it's 00:42 in China now...I'm tired too and have to wake up early tomorrow
17:42 Stefan: I will mod Muzu and Oni in the thread
17:42 ak74qbz95xm8: ok,thx a lot
17:42 ak74qbz95xm8: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
17:42 Stefan: good night :3/

[Kantan]
00:51:891 (6) - Change this to k, you forgot to do.

Done.

[Futsuu]
00:22:800 (36,37) - swap them, feels smoother to play dkd k d kdk done
01:08:982 (53,57) - I've mentioned to remove them, I found them not really sufficient to play done
01:11:527 (60,61) - Finishers to emphasize? sounds a little strange x_x,so I keep it


[Muzukashii]
00:14:436 (36,37,38) - I found they played better on dkd.
00:26:800 (74) - By looking on the previous parts you always made here a break, I would be consistent and remove this note since it's a really long combo line.
00:27:709 (78) - I find the intention mapping this beat here is wrong, it feels more you focus on the vocals and on this time there is none. I suggest to remove this.
00:34:073 (99,109) - to have more break times between 00:33:709 - 00:39:527 you need to remove these notes.
00:40:982 (121) - maybe you could remove this note too, what do you think?
00:45:164 (134,136) - (134) sounds quite spammy, would remove. And the sound on (136)'s time is pretty light, maybe k too?
00:57:164 (179,180,181,182,183,184) - This is REALLY awkward but not because of your pattern. But the song has a really weird transistion.. well, I'd leave 00:57:709 (182,183) out.
01:08:800 (220,225) - Same issue I've pointed out in Futsuu on 01:08:982 (53,57).
01:11:345 (229,231) - Suggesting to remove (229), (231) should strongly be removed, you lack on breaks here.
01:14:073 (240,241,242,243) - The triplet is really misplaced imo, I consider to remove 01:14:073 (240,241,242) and leave 01:14:436 (243) alone.
01:17:709 (255) - Should be removed for a little 1/1 break. sounds strange...so I make 01:17:345 (238,239,240) - entirely 1/1
01:22:982 (274) - Since you haven't put a note between 01:16:982 (253,254) you shouldn't do this here too. there is no extra beat or so.
01:23:527 (276) - same like 01:17:709 (255). same as above

All done

[Oni]
Looks fine to me.
Thx ;w;


Well.. sorry. I am lazy orz

Kantan, Futsuu and Oni looks good now. I maybe will look once again about the Oni. Look about the Muzukashii Difficulty, when you're done call me back.
Thx~
Wish you back soon~
:)
Stefan
[Oni]
Basically this Difficulty is pretty decent mapped. Still, some notes should be removed - mostly in stream pattern - else it might be a too big gap between Muzukashii and Oni which we really don't want, right? Remove these notes and I think we're ready to go:

00:24:345 (111) -
00:27:255 (129) -
00:37:073 (182) -
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