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D0vid
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mercredi 29 avril 2015 at 20:11:25

Artist: Skillet
Title: Monster
Tags: awake metal alternative hard rock
BPM: 135
Filesize: 4280kb
Play Time: 02:53
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (2,35 stars, 303 notes)
  2. Insane (4,01 stars, 426 notes)
  3. Normal (1,69 stars, 185 notes)
Download: Skillet - Monster
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Normal 100% + hitsounds
Hard 100% + hitsounds
Insane 100% + hitsounds

All done!

Changed diff names, background & MP3 on 20/01/2015 - REDOWNLOAD PLEASE

Ready for modding !
dorillis
So for starters I like this beatmap. One issue I have with it though is the black notes are really hard to see when placed on the black background. I suggest using a dark grey instead of black just so the notes will stand out. :D
Topic Starter
D0vid
oh i didn't except any reply here :p glad it got noticed
you're right i'll change this :)
Fobia
This beat-map is actually great.
Topic Starter
D0vid
thanks a lot ! :D
i will eventually work further on this one (map more diffs etc) soon, stay in touch :)
Marygrace
Perfect beatmap.
Topic Starter
D0vid
haha thank you :D
Spartaan
Are you going to get a full difficulty set for this and go for ranked? It's a nice map
Topic Starter
D0vid
well alright, let's do it, i'll be working on other diffs starting today :)

EDIT: all the diffs are done, let's wait for kind modders :D
mrturtle99
Creepy Background ._. Also mods
So I was going to mod this, and I noticed when I was playing that the notes felt a little too soon, so thought "hm, may have to lower bpm a bit." Then I went into edit mode, pressed Ctrl+Shift+a, and saw this:

Quick glance at the other difficulties shows lots of unsapped things there as well, so before I can do an actual mod, all Notes and Kiai start/stops need to snapped.
On another, non-negative note, I really like this :}
Topic Starter
D0vid
ahhh this is because i changed the mp3 and offset, notes didn't move on normal and easy my bad T_T
thanks for pointing that out man :) fixed, hope you still want to mod it ^^
mrturtle99

SKAIII wrote:

ahhh this is because i changed the mp3 and offset, notes didn't move on normal and easy my bad T_T
thanks for pointing that out man :) fixed, hope you still want to mod it ^^ Yey
Anyways, mods
Easy

SPOILER
00:00:200 (1,2,3) - for these, I feel like it would be better to just have clap on the final beat of each slider, instead of on the repeat and the final beat, as it is currently really overbearing
00:05:533 (1,2,3,4) - same as above, the clap gets a little bit overbearing, try putting it on every other note in this pattern instead of every note
00:12:644 (3) - remove the clap on this note and on the repeat of 00:13:088 (4) - so that the clapping rhythm of every other note stays the same, otherwise it gets overbearing
00:26:866 (5) - stick with the clapping rhythm in 00:25:088 (1,2,3,4) - , to keep it from becoming overbearing
00:58:866 (1,2,3,4) - just a suggestion for this part, consider removing 00:58:866 (1,3) - so that the circles only land on syllables (alternatively you could delete 00:59:311 (2,4) - so it lands on the rhythm instead)
01:02:422 (1,2,3,4) - ^
On a side note, consider replacing some of the claps with finishes, as it gets kind've annoying only hearing claps
Normal

SPOILER
00:12:644 (1,2,3,4) - here I feel like only 00:13:088 (2,4) - should have the finishes, otherwise the emphasis wears off a little bit
00:14:866 (2) - here I feel like the clap should be moved to 00:15:311 (3) - , as it just feels like a better placement
00:16:866 (3) - clap here should be moved to first part of 00:17:088 (4) - for same reasons as above
00:18:644 (3) - clap should be moved to first part of 00:18:866 (4) - for same reasons
00:19:755 (1,2,3,4) - finishes should be on only 00:20:199 (2,4) - for same reasons
00:21:977 (2) - clap should be moved to 00:22:422 (3) - for same reasons
00:23:977 (3) - clap should be moved to first part of 00:24:199 (4) - for same reasons
00:25:533 (2) - clap should be moved to first part of 00:25:977 (3) - for same reasons
00:26:866 (5,1,2) - finishes here should be on the end beat of 00:26:866 (5) - and on 00:28:199 (2) - for same reasons
also, 00:26:866 (5) - should be a new combo, and in concordance with that 00:27:755 (1) - should have the new combo removed from it and 00:28:644 (3) - should be a new combo
00:33:977 (6,7) - finishes here should be on the end beats of the sliders, not on both beginning and end beats (for aforementioned reasons)
00:41:088 (1,2,3) - claps should be just on end beats of sliders, for reasons mentioned earlier
00:49:533 (4,5) - these I think would be better if the clap was moved to end beat of the sliders and the finish was removed
00:51:755 (1) - clap at the end of this slider just feels awkward and I think should be removed
00:57:088 (5) - finishes here would feel better if they were every other repeat instead of every repeat
01:18:422 (1,3) - I feel like the finishes on these should be removed so that the sounds on 01:18:866 (2,4) - have more effect
also, 01:18:866 (2) - should be either a clap or a finish, not both
01:20:422 (1) - the clap on this feels weird and I think should be removed
01:48:644 (5,6) - finishes on these I feel would fit better if they were every other beat
02:03:977 (4,5) - claps on these would fit better if they were only on the end beats
02:08:644 (1,2,3,4) - claps here should be every other beat for better emphasis and to prevent them from being overbearing
02:53:977 (4) - I feel like this should be a circle, not a slider as it feels really awkward to me
Hard

SPOILER
00:12:644 (1) - i feel like the claps should only be on the repeat, otherwise it kind of loses emphasis
01:28:199 (1,2,3,4) - claps should be on 01:28:422 (2,4) - to keep with the every other beat clap pattern
02:03:977 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I feel like the claps would fit better if they were just on 02:04:199 (3,6) - so it's an indication that you have completed the triplet
02:08:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - claps should be every other beat here to keep with the pattern
02:11:311 (6) - I feel like this should be a circle as the slider is kind of awkward
02:32:866 (1,2,3) - again, I feel like the clap should be on only 02:33:088 (3) - so that you know you've completed the triplet
02:53:977 (7) - slider feels awkward here, consider making it a circle
Other

SPOILER
  • On easy you have no rest at the beginning like in normal and hard, so consider changing that so all the difficulties are consistent.

    Easy and normal have no tags on them, they should have the same tags as hard difficulty.
Did you know? The background starts to get really creepy if you look at it for a long time. Also no hardcore vocal effect at ~2:17 :( (dont change mp3 again because of my disappointment though).
Edit:almost forgot, consider changing difficulty names from easy/normal/hard to normal/hard/insane as that is what aimod picks them up as
Topic Starter
D0vid

mrturtle99 wrote:

SKAIII wrote:

ahhh this is because i changed the mp3 and offset, notes didn't move on normal and easy my bad T_T
thanks for pointing that out man :) fixed, hope you still want to mod it ^^ Yey
Anyways, mods
Easy

SPOILER
00:00:200 (1,2,3) - for these, I feel like it would be better to just have clap on the final beat of each slider, instead of on the repeat and the final beat, as it is currently really overbearing
00:05:533 (1,2,3,4) - same as above, the clap gets a little bit overbearing, try putting it on every other note in this pattern instead of every note
00:12:644 (3) - remove the clap on this note and on the repeat of 00:13:088 (4) - so that the clapping rhythm of every other note stays the same, otherwise it gets overbearing
00:26:866 (5) - stick with the clapping rhythm in 00:25:088 (1,2,3,4) - , to keep it from becoming overbearing
00:58:866 (1,2,3,4) - just a suggestion for this part, consider removing 00:58:866 (1,3) - so that the circles only land on syllables (alternatively you could delete 00:59:311 (2,4) - so it lands on the rhythm instead)
01:02:422 (1,2,3,4) - ^
On a side note, consider replacing some of the claps with finishes, as it gets kind've annoying only hearing claps
Normal

SPOILER
00:12:644 (1,2,3,4) - here I feel like only 00:13:088 (2,4) - should have the finishes, otherwise the emphasis wears off a little bit
00:14:866 (2) - here I feel like the clap should be moved to 00:15:311 (3) - , as it just feels like a better placement
00:16:866 (3) - clap here should be moved to first part of 00:17:088 (4) - for same reasons as above
00:18:644 (3) - clap should be moved to first part of 00:18:866 (4) - for same reasons
00:19:755 (1,2,3,4) - finishes should be on only 00:20:199 (2,4) - for same reasons
00:21:977 (2) - clap should be moved to 00:22:422 (3) - for same reasons
00:23:977 (3) - clap should be moved to first part of 00:24:199 (4) - for same reasons
00:25:533 (2) - clap should be moved to first part of 00:25:977 (3) - for same reasons
00:26:866 (5,1,2) - finishes here should be on the end beat of 00:26:866 (5) - and on 00:28:199 (2) - for same reasons
also, 00:26:866 (5) - should be a new combo, and in concordance with that 00:27:755 (1) - should have the new combo removed from it and 00:28:644 (3) - should be a new combo
00:33:977 (6,7) - finishes here should be on the end beats of the sliders, not on both beginning and end beats (for aforementioned reasons)
00:41:088 (1,2,3) - claps should be just on end beats of sliders, for reasons mentioned earlier
00:49:533 (4,5) - these I think would be better if the clap was moved to end beat of the sliders and the finish was removed
00:51:755 (1) - clap at the end of this slider just feels awkward and I think should be removed
00:57:088 (5) - finishes here would feel better if they were every other repeat instead of every repeat
01:18:422 (1,3) - I feel like the finishes on these should be removed so that the sounds on 01:18:866 (2,4) - have more effect
also, 01:18:866 (2) - should be either a clap or a finish, not both
01:20:422 (1) - the clap on this feels weird and I think should be removed
01:48:644 (5,6) - finishes on these I feel would fit better if they were every other beat
02:03:977 (4,5) - claps on these would fit better if they were only on the end beats
02:08:644 (1,2,3,4) - claps here should be every other beat for better emphasis and to prevent them from being overbearing
02:53:977 (4) - I feel like this should be a circle, not a slider as it feels really awkward to me
Hard

SPOILER
00:12:644 (1) - i feel like the claps should only be on the repeat, otherwise it kind of loses emphasis
01:28:199 (1,2,3,4) - claps should be on 01:28:422 (2,4) - to keep with the every other beat clap pattern
02:03:977 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I feel like the claps would fit better if they were just on 02:04:199 (3,6) - so it's an indication that you have completed the triplet
02:08:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - claps should be every other beat here to keep with the pattern
02:11:311 (6) - I feel like this should be a circle as the slider is kind of awkward
02:32:866 (1,2,3) - again, I feel like the clap should be on only 02:33:088 (3) - so that you know you've completed the triplet
02:53:977 (7) - slider feels awkward here, consider making it a circle
Other

SPOILER
  • On easy you have no rest at the beginning like in normal and hard, so consider changing that so all the difficulties are consistent.

    Easy and normal have no tags on them, they should have the same tags as hard difficulty.
Did you know? The background starts to get really creepy if you look at it for a long time. Also no hardcore vocal effect at ~2:17 :( (dont change mp3 again because of my disappointment though).
Edit:almost forgot, consider changing difficulty names from easy/normal/hard to normal/hard/insane as that is what aimod picks them up as
Thanks a lot for your mod ! And special thanks for hitsound help, i'm not really good for them :P
I changed basically everything you said, except few stuff with the claps on Hard, which i kept because they accentuated the jumpy mapping style :)
Changed diff names too , thanks !
Shiguri
General
00:58:866 - 01:05:977 - Remove Kiai
01:50:866 - 01:57:533 - ^
02:40:199 - 02:41:977 - ^ (Let it start again at 02:41:977 - )
02:43:755 - 02:45:533 - ^ (Let it start again at 02:45:533 - )
02:53:977 - End Kiai time there

Let's get started with the diffs.

Insane
AR should just stay 8
00:17:533 (6,1) - They are touching eachother which looks a bit meh, change it.

Hard
AR 6 or 7
HP 4 up to 6
OD 5

Normal
OD=3
HP=~3

Good luck!
Topic Starter
D0vid

Shiguri wrote:

General
00:58:866 - 01:05:977 - Remove Kiai
01:50:866 - 01:57:533 - ^
02:40:199 - 02:41:977 - ^ (Let it start again at 02:41:977 - )
02:43:755 - 02:45:533 - ^ (Let it start again at 02:45:533 - )
02:53:977 - End Kiai time there

Did all this :)

Let's get started with the diffs.

Insane
AR should just stay 8 No i rather keep it at 8,5 since it's a jumpy map AR should stay higher imo
00:17:533 (6,1) - They are touching eachother which looks a bit meh, change it. They aren't? oO

Hard
AR 6 or 7 Ok for AR6
HP 4 up to 6 I put it to 5
OD 5 Ok

Normal
OD=3 Ok
HP=~3 Ok

Good luck!
Thanks, and thanks a lot for your mod! :)
Fobia
Finally you got it done!
Hope it will get ranked soon! :D
Peachtrees
o/~

M4M

Normal

Had a nice mod for this but then accidentally closed my brower ;A;

while boil it down to the most improtant parts with some examples

1.Avoid skipping downbeats

00:19:311 (3) - 00:49:533 (2) - 01:16:199 (4) - 01:55:311 (3) -

2.Try spicing it up a bit using 1/2's

00:49:533 (2) - shorting this to the red tick and then mapping the downbeat would work fairly well

00:57:088 (3) - additionally, I feel like mapping out the vocals here using 1/2 might work too

3.The obligatory nazi blankets

00:53:977 (3,1) - 02:06:422 (4,1) - these ones are particularly bad ><

4. spacingggg

02:49:088 (4,1,2,3) -

Hard

00:14:422 (1,2,3,4,1) - plays kinda awkward, flow is meh

00:29:755 (6) - would make this two circles, vocals feel strong enough to support two 1/2's

00:32:422 (2,3,4) - why not ahve these follow vocals too?

00:44:866 (5,6,7) - see if this rythm works for https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3070081

00:49:533 (4) - would rather have something clickable on this

00:57:088 (3) - I'd rather not have this all covered by one repeat, vocals feel so strong so this feels kinda underwhelming to me. especially since you did the same thing in the Normal ><

01:04:199 (5) - perhaps make this a little less off-screen

01:17:311 (2) - feels kinda odd, why stop following vocals all of the sudden?

01:32:644 (1,2,3) - why not go for some symmetry between these :c

01:37:977 (1,2,3) - overlaps look kinda ugly ><

02:01:977 (3,1) - ^

02:04:422 (5) - again, I feel like this downbeat should have something clickable on it

02:07:755 (4) - ^

02:49:088 (1,2) - oobligatory nazi blanket

Insane

00:18:199 (1) - might just be me, but I feel like these double repeats do not really work all the well in higher Diffs, especially since they can use 1/4 or even 1/4 to emphasize stuff

00:54:866 (6,7,1) - feels way to close ><

00:57:088 (5,1) - ^

Spacing throughout the kiai feels a bit confusing. Certains patterns are not very paced out while others are, eventhough the song doesn't increase or decrease in difficulty

01:19:977 (1) - feels REALLY odd

01:21:533 (5) - feels odd to have the downbeat on the end of the slider

01:38:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why not space these out a little more. also might want to try and come up with something more creative than just a curve :c

01:43:977 (5,1) - obligatory nazi stack

02:08:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - huh these seem pretty harsh

02:40:199 (1,2,3) - just saying, angles like these are usually fairly uncomfortable to play. can keep this for the art-sy effect, just my two cents

02:45:755 (2) - odd. why not properly follow the vocals like you did before?

02:52:422 (8,1) - try putting some more distance in between these?
Topic Starter
D0vid

Peachtrees wrote:

o/~

M4M

Normal

Had a nice mod for this but then accidentally closed my brower ;A;

while boil it down to the most improtant parts with some examples

1.Avoid skipping downbeats

00:19:311 (3) - 00:49:533 (2) - 01:16:199 (4) - 01:55:311 (3) -

2.Try spicing it up a bit using 1/2's

00:49:533 (2) - shorting this to the red tick and then mapping the downbeat would work fairly well

00:57:088 (3) - additionally, I feel like mapping out the vocals here using 1/2 might work too

3.The obligatory nazi blankets

00:53:977 (3,1) - 02:06:422 (4,1) - these ones are particularly bad ><

4. spacingggg

02:49:088 (4,1,2,3) -

Hard

00:14:422 (1,2,3,4,1) - plays kinda awkward, flow is meh

00:29:755 (6) - would make this two circles, vocals feel strong enough to support two 1/2's

00:32:422 (2,3,4) - why not ahve these follow vocals too?

00:44:866 (5,6,7) - see if this rythm works for https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3070081

00:49:533 (4) - would rather have something clickable on this

00:57:088 (3) - I'd rather not have this all covered by one repeat, vocals feel so strong so this feels kinda underwhelming to me. especially since you did the same thing in the Normal ><

01:04:199 (5) - perhaps make this a little less off-screen

01:17:311 (2) - feels kinda odd, why stop following vocals all of the sudden?

01:32:644 (1,2,3) - why not go for some symmetry between these :c

01:37:977 (1,2,3) - overlaps look kinda ugly ><

02:01:977 (3,1) - ^

02:04:422 (5) - again, I feel like this downbeat should have something clickable on it

02:07:755 (4) - ^

02:49:088 (1,2) - oobligatory nazi blanket

Insane

00:18:199 (1) - might just be me, but I feel like these double repeats do not really work all the well in higher Diffs, especially since they can use 1/4 or even 1/4 to emphasize stuff

00:54:866 (6,7,1) - feels way to close ><

00:57:088 (5,1) - ^

Spacing throughout the kiai feels a bit confusing. Certains patterns are not very paced out while others are, eventhough the song doesn't increase or decrease in difficulty

01:19:977 (1) - feels REALLY odd

01:21:533 (5) - feels odd to have the downbeat on the end of the slider

01:38:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why not space these out a little more. also might want to try and come up with something more creative than just a curve :c

01:43:977 (5,1) - obligatory nazi stack

02:08:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - huh these seem pretty harsh

02:40:199 (1,2,3) - just saying, angles like these are usually fairly uncomfortable to play. can keep this for the art-sy effect, just my two cents

02:45:755 (2) - odd. why not properly follow the vocals like you did before?

02:52:422 (8,1) - try putting some more distance in between these?
thanks for the mod mate, i applied almost everything, will post details tomorrow :)
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