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I made a bot that recommends beatmaps. Try it!

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Tillerino
35 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Tillerino
Not quite a month ago, I started running a bot on my account that recommends beatmaps based on your top10 plays. It is queried simply via the ingame chat like so:



I wrote about it on /r/osugame and received a lot of positive feedback. There was a bit of drama in the beginning, but the bot has been running smoothly for over two weeks now. We're up to 125,000 given recommendations at this point. A lot of players are reporting incredible gains in pp, but the recommendations can also be just fun maps to play if you don't feel like grinding.

The current recommendations are the result of a second-generation algorithm. The first-generation algorithm is still available via the command !recommend relax.

Please try the bot, use it as much as you like, and tell your friends. From what I've seen, news travel [img]very[/img] slowly in the osu! world.

Here's some places to get more information:

List of commands
FAQ - I'll be adding more as they come
Twitter for status and updates
original post on /r/osugame
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[-Cloud-]
438 posts
Joined June 2013
[-Cloud-]
Reminds me of Osu Trainer.
Maxis
151 posts
Joined May 2013
Maxis

[-Cloud-] wrote:

Reminds me of Osu Trainer.
pairing this up with osu trainer as well as just finding maps played by people my rank actually works wonders for me. osu trainer finds various maps of different styles for more specific pp, while Tillerino gives you maps more geared towards your playstyle with a wider range of pp. using both when you need to actually exposes you to a lot of different maps good for your rank.

anyway I've been using Tillerino for about a week now and i definitely recommend everyone else try it if they're looking for maps at their rank, whether you want pp or just want some challenging maps suited for how you play. The bot is so perfectly well-done and I especially like how you can do it all from ingame.
[-Cloud-]
438 posts
Joined June 2013
[-Cloud-]
And how you wanna improve if you only play maps you're good at? I think it's going in the wrong direction. You should fix what you are bad at and not more improve what you're already good at.

// Nvm the purpose of this bot isn't the same like the one of Osu Trainer I guess.
Tillerino
35 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Tillerino

[-Cloud-] wrote:

Reminds me of Osu Trainer.
See updated FAQ. (also what Maxis said)
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RaneFire
1,181 posts
Joined May 2011
RaneFire
Tried 5 map recommends and even though I only FC'd one of them (with mods), it's good for anyone looking for:

Maps that you can improve your skills on.
Maps that reward you for your effort. (Not really farming, as it is just pointing you in the direction of maps worth your time. Although I guess if you only play the easy maps and ignore the others... yeah)
Maps you probably wouldn't have ever thought of playing (taste in music), or playing again (old?), or that you could play with mods (scores from when you started).
A change from the usual maps you typically tend to play. i.e. some fun.
-GN
Champion Above Champions
734 posts
Joined June 2011
-GN
I haven't been trying this extensively(yet), but I think it's really cool, and the beatmaps it has given me are all pretty nice. Thanks for this!
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Monstrata
Can i get silenced for spam if I ask too many recommendations? Like say if i were to ask like 30~ to get a list to play?
Bauxe
1,624 posts
Joined August 2012
Bauxe

monstrata wrote:

Can i get silenced for spam if I ask too many recommendations? Like say if i were to ask like 30~ to get a list to play?
If you ask for them all in like 5 seconds, yeah.
timemon
Beatmap Nominator
1,307 posts
Joined November 2012
timemon
Tillerino da best
The bot is very accurate. Last week it only recommended me 3.7-4.0 now it recommends me 4.0-4.4 stars.
I have many good songs thank to this cool bot.
Mythras
255 posts
Joined February 2010
Mythras
amazing bot, awesome =)

I'm kinda surprised these kinds of things aren't built directly into the game to keep people focused.
Tillerino
35 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Tillerino

monstrata wrote:

Can i get silenced for spam if I ask too many recommendations? Like say if i were to ask like 30~ to get a list to play?
AFAIK, this hasn't happened yet. And believe me, there are some heavy users. The bot itself is very concerned with not getting silenced. If you don't request faster than the bot answers, I couldn't imagine a reason why you would get silenced. I gotta say though, I made a very conscious decision to give one recommendation at a time instead of a list to encourage the user to consider every recommendation. Try !recommend beta for more improved recommendations if you're skipping too many of the regular ones.
Ayesha Altugle
3,052 posts
Joined October 2011
Ayesha Altugle
Fahe
62 posts
Joined January 2013
Fahe
Trying your bot now, very nice recommendations till now, I find the mods recommendations pretty accurate as well, I can at least pass the maps with the mods advised, I think I'll keep on using it !

The first reply made me laugh though :D
Mythras
255 posts
Joined February 2010
Mythras
bot gave me 1000 ranks lol woo

edit: it gave me https://osu.ppy.sh/b/161787?m=0 , i was like heeellll naw, but i randomly S'd it, bot knows more about my skill level than i do
RaneFire
1,181 posts
Joined May 2011
RaneFire

VioletMaid wrote:

bot knows more about my skill level than i do
Indeed. I never would have considered playing 256 bpm if it didn't tell me to.
spongypuppet
44 posts
Joined October 2013
spongypuppet
Same for me lol. I overestimate myself, trying to finish insane maps. The bot sometimes recommended insane but mostly hard ones. Can't even finish the beatmaps it gives me XD.
Sophia_old_1
266 posts
Joined December 2013
Sophia_old_1
Shit like this is why I trust computers and bots over human beings.
Mizuno Yui
Mizuno Yui

spongypuppet wrote:

Same for me lol. I overestimate myself, trying to finish insane maps. The bot sometimes recommended insane but mostly hard ones. Can't even finish the beatmaps it gives me XD.
There's a fine line between overestimating your abilities and pushing yourself to the limits :D
Cozzzy
94 posts
Joined October 2012
Cozzzy
Really nice. I actually prefer this to osu!trainer already (which tends to give me maps I don't enjoy somehow)
Dembele
18 posts
Joined March 2014
Dembele
I have to say this is really helpful :D Its given me fun maps, good training maps, and a gain in PP all within the last hour. Thanks!
Granger
835 posts
Joined April 2014
Granger
Hmm, this seems very usefull. Does it work with other gamemodes correctly?
Iceskulls
1,612 posts
Joined February 2012
Iceskulls
Very good it give maps that I can play very well Thank you
Is it recommend for other mode too?
Tillerino
35 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Tillerino

Granger wrote:

Hmm, this seems very usefull. Does it work with other gamemodes correctly?

CelsiusLK wrote:

Very good it give maps that I can play very well Thank you
Is it recommend for other mode too?
See updated FAQ
Gigo
266 posts
Joined March 2013
Gigo
Thanks for making this. You know, it doesn't even matter if I can FC the maps that the bot recommends... I just like finding fun maps I didn't know about and the bot manages to do just that.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
I love this bot, many thanks (:
peppy
19,315 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy

VioletMaid wrote:

I'm kinda surprised these kinds of things aren't built directly into the game to keep people focused.
Insyni
281 posts
Joined July 2012
Insyni
I'm practicing insanes.... it recommended an map with [Easy] difficulty...

:'(

Edit: Nvm, the 2nd one was better.
Granger
835 posts
Joined April 2014
Granger
Aww, so not for any other modes... what a bummer...

peppy wrote:

VioletMaid wrote:

I'm kinda surprised these kinds of things aren't built directly into the game to keep people focused.
I think he means ingame.

On that note, this one doesnt work that well, it recomments me maps i allready FCed (Or it meant the next diff in the same mapsets, which sadly is out of my skill...).
It doesnt tell you which mods you should use nor specify the difficulty it recomments.
Tillerino
35 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Tillerino

Granger wrote:

peppy wrote:

I think he means ingame.

On that note, this one doesnt work that well, it recomments me maps i allready FCed (Or it meant the next diff in the same mapsets, which sadly is out of my skill...).
It doesnt tell you which mods you should use nor specify the difficulty it recomments.
It doesn't show you which map in the set to play, so it's probably recommending you the diff which you already played.

It looks like all this does is list new beatmaps around a somehow determined personal star difficulty. The determined star difficulty seems pretty low, since it is very clear that none of the found maps would give me any pp. To be fair, if this had existed when I started playing, I would have played a lot more. The results are fine if you're not looking for pp and either your skills are balanced the way that they are in the star diff system, or you are looking to balance them more like they are in the star diff system. But it is clear that this is a simple search function, not a recommendation system. Mods, which play a big role in higher ranks, are completely disregarded.
Granger
835 posts
Joined April 2014
Granger

Tillerino wrote:

Granger wrote:

I think he means ingame.

On that note, this one doesnt work that well, it recomments me maps i allready FCed (Or it meant the next diff in the same mapsets, which sadly is out of my skill...).
It doesnt tell you which mods you should use nor specify the difficulty it recomments.
It doesn't show you which map in the set to play, so it's probably recommending you the diff which you already played.

It looks like all this does is list new beatmaps around a somehow determined personal star difficulty. The determined star difficulty seems pretty low, since it is very clear that none of the found maps would give me any pp. To be fair, if this had existed when I started playing, I would have played a lot more. The results are fine if you're not looking for pp and either your skills are balanced the way that they are in the star diff system, or you are looking to balance them more like they are in the star diff system. But it is clear that this is a simple search function, not a recommendation system. Mods, which play a big role in higher ranks, are completely disregarded.
Hmm, but why would it recommend me a map i SSed? With Hardrock...
Tom94
osu!dev
750 posts
Joined August 2012
Tom94

Tillerino wrote:

It doesn't show you which map in the set to play, so it's probably recommending you the diff which you already played.

It looks like all this does is list new beatmaps around a somehow determined personal star difficulty. The determined star difficulty seems pretty low, since it is very clear that none of the found maps would give me any pp. To be fair, if this had existed when I started playing, I would have played a lot more. The results are fine if you're not looking for pp and either your skills are balanced the way that they are in the star diff system, or you are looking to balance them more like they are in the star diff system. But it is clear that this is a simple search function, not a recommendation system. Mods, which play a big role in higher ranks, are completely disregarded.
Maps around the recommended difficulty should give a good amount of pp, specifically because pp is based on (components of) the star difficulty. Mods are coming, too. :)

On topic: Nice bot, that you made. The feedback you are getting by itself speaks for it.

Granger wrote:

Hmm, but why would it recommend me a map i SSed? With Hardrock...
You are probably talking about Catch the Beat where star difficulty is quite a bit off at the moment. If you are a supporter you can make the search only display maps you have not played yet. (There seems to be a bug with that option not working when sorting by difficulty, but it will be fixed soon.)
daredakke
141 posts
Joined January 2012
daredakke
Started using this today, gotten me some good results so far.

Kinda skeptical at first, but I think I'll be using this a lot more from now on. Good job.
Tillerino
35 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Tillerino

Tom94 wrote:

Maps around the recommended difficulty should give a good amount of pp, specifically because pp is based on (components of) the star difficulty. Mods are coming, too. :)

On topic: Nice bot, that you made. The feedback you are getting by itself speaks for it.
Thanks :)

I know that star difficulty and max pp are very similar, but my recommended star difficulty is simply to low. It's 4.58 I believe, which is around the star diff of my #40 play. Maybe you forgot to factor in mods?
Amedis
5 posts
Joined March 2011
Amedis

-GN wrote:

I haven't been trying this extensively(yet), but I think it's really cool, and the beatmaps it has given me are all pretty nice. Thanks for this!
I agree!
Tom94
osu!dev
750 posts
Joined August 2012
Tom94

Tillerino wrote:

Tom94 wrote:

Maps around the recommended difficulty should give a good amount of pp, specifically because pp is based on (components of) the star difficulty. Mods are coming, too. :)

On topic: Nice bot, that you made. The feedback you are getting by itself speaks for it.
Thanks :)

I know that star difficulty and max pp are very similar, but my recommended star difficulty is simply to low. It's 4.58 I believe, which is around the star diff of my #40 play. Maybe you forgot to factor in mods?
Your #9 best performance has 4.54 stars and you played it without mods. :P
I'll look into increasing the estimated difficulty, though.
casmith789
45 posts
Joined June 2013
casmith789
This is pretty cool.

I think its nomod picks are better than its mod picks, but maybe I'm just using the wrong mods :P
Tillerino
35 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Tillerino

Tom94 wrote:

Your #9 best performance has 4.54 stars and you played it without mods. :P
I'll look into increasing the estimated difficulty, though.
Wh... You're absolutely right! I think I somehow managed to look at exactly those maps where the star diff is unusually high. For the record my #39 play is in fact 4.63 :) Raising the estimated difficulty by a tiny bit might make sense, but I was under the impression that the difference was higher.
ballplay
86 posts
Joined August 2013
ballplay
maybe add more customization? e.g. !recommend bpm<230
all the maps i was recommended had high bpm that i cant handle
Mythras
255 posts
Joined February 2010
Mythras
Star diff = directly pp related ? Hmm I need to actually fc wahrheit instead of being amused by its A pp...
Gigo
266 posts
Joined March 2013
Gigo
I wonder what maps would your bot recommend to Cookiezi (if he was still playing)...
Tillerino
35 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Tillerino

Gigo wrote:

I wonder what maps would your bot recommend to Cookiezi (if he was still playing)...
The recommendations for any top player would be pretty much nonsense :)
Tillerino
35 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Tillerino

SloppySeal wrote:

maybe add more customization? e.g. !recommend bpm<230
all the maps i was recommended had high bpm that i cant handle
This is also a FAQ, I'll add it shortly. I'm not going to add any meta data to the request. I might display more meta data with the result so you can identify weird results without having to download the beatmaps.

Also I don't think that it was *all* the maps that had high bpm. Heavenly moon seemed pretty good :) This might be a long shot, but I think you might be able to beat NNRT as well. !recommend is a bit shaky with mods some times. I think I'll make !recommend beta the main thing now. Should probably have done that before I opened this thread.
Mythras
255 posts
Joined February 2010
Mythras
recommend beta (current recommend) is hard as fuck, stuff still seems remotely possible though, pp seems easier to get just getting 99%+ accuracy on all the stuff i already beat lol
xasuma
The First Completionist
1,011 posts
Joined August 2013
xasuma
I really like it. I just tried it today for the first time (recommend beta) and I am really enjoying it. Songs go from at least a little challenging, to challeging enough that I cant quite fc them yet. But fun nonetheless.
Congrats on the bot, I hope you keep working on it , I am looking forward to it.

P.S : I would like a "!commands" command, so I could view them right in game instead of opening the browser. Just a little suggestion that you can certainly ignore. :)
Cocaine dog
147 posts
Joined August 2013
Cocaine dog
I'll start using this! I've been looking for something to give me maps to play q,q <3
Tillerino
35 posts
Joined November 2012
Topic Starter
Tillerino

xasuma wrote:

P.S : I would like a "!commands" command, so I could view them right in game instead of opening the browser. Just a little suggestion that you can certainly ignore. :)
That was the response to !help at some point. However, since I need to limit the rate at which I am sending messages, listing all commands would take quite a while and possibly delay other users who are using the bot.
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Monstrata
I find that !recommend beta is more accurate in terms of gauging how difficult a map you can play successfully. It recommends songs that are difficult for me but are playable. However, those recommended songs are also songs I can't FC in a few tries. I've pretty much played all my top 20 songs at least 30-40 times. Some a lot more. The normal !recommend often recommends slightly easier songs that, when passed, do not give a boatload of pp, but can be passed in a few tries, maybe even as little as 1 depending on your sight-reading and consistency. You only receive like, 2-3pp maybe, per song.
silmarilen
5,581 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen

Tillerino wrote:

xasuma wrote:

P.S : I would like a "!commands" command, so I could view them right in game instead of opening the browser. Just a little suggestion that you can certainly ignore. :)
That was the response to !help at some point. However, since I need to limit the rate at which I am sending messages, listing all commands would take quite a while and possibly delay other users who are using the bot.
you could just make it link a puush of all the commands or something (a .txt)

it linked me a couple of ar9 maps with low pp value (implying i have to DT it) but i dont have a single ar9 dt score in my top performances, i can barely even pass the easiest of them. is this intended (or just never looked at it before) or would it be possible to change that?
casmith789
45 posts
Joined June 2013
casmith789
Another suggestion - feel free to ignore

When I use /np to show pp values, it would be nice if when I /np when watching/playing a DT score for it to show the best/community pp for the DT score if possible

Been using this for a couple of days and I'm pretty pleased with how it works, I had a "fc later" collection with maps that give a lot of pp and it seems to have recommended most of them to me.
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