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Rank worsening, not gaining PP.

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Pretzel-kun
I've noticed that my PP has been on 494 for AGES.. and my " performance " rank only gets worse every day..

I only play maps that give me a hard time and I never notice an increase in rank or PP whenever I complete a hard map.. I used to get more PP and increase in rank whenever I completed a map but now my rank just drops every day and my PP stays at 494. I used to play AR 8 maps and sometimes AR 9 maps ( I couldn't complete 90% of the AR 9 maps ) but now AR 8 is too easy for me so I just play AR 9. I very rarely play maps I know I can complete.. but when I complete a hard map, my pp / rank never increases. It just gets worse and worse. My rank has been dropping steadily these past 8 days and nothing I do seems to make it go up.

Am I playing in some " offline mode " where nothing I do counts or what? because it feels like it...

If you take a look at my " Top Ranks " you'll see
Black Raison d'etre - Van!shment Th!s World (TV Size) [Insane]
about a month ago

As my 5'th best rank.. but that's not true? I recently got much higher score on it.. From: 1,351,436 to 3,281,596 but my " top rank " is still the 1,351,436 one..
Pettanko
if you want pp get full combo on maps instead of having C's and B's with bad accuracy
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Pettanko wrote:

if you want pp get full combo on maps instead of having C's and B's with bad accuracy

But playing maps that I FC on the first try doesn't make me better.. it's just easy and boring.
Valdyr
You improve by playing maps that are out of your reach, you gain pp by FCing maps that become easy to you as you practice the first type of maps.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Valdyr wrote:

You improve by playing maps that are out of your reach, you gain pp by FCing maps that become easy to you as you practice the first type of maps.
But I am playing maps that are out of my reach.. it's basically all I play. Sometimes I play an old map because I want to improve my score it because I like the song but it's rarely..

I'm not asking " how to improve " I'm asking why my " performance rank " doesn't increase at all?
dung eater
Just play stuff that is hard, get better at clicking circles. Rank going down is nothing new, every time you gain rank other(s) (from one to thousands) lose ranks. If a thousand people go ahead you, you drop a thousand ranks.

If you were the only one playing you would never lose ranks. There can't be 100 people who are at top 50 (yes with the system here you never lose ranks if you don't play but you get what i mean 3:)
Pettanko

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Valdyr wrote:

You improve by playing maps that are out of your reach, you gain pp by FCing maps that become easy to you as you practice the first type of maps.
But I am playing maps that are out of my reach.. it's basically all I play. Sometimes I play an old map because I want to improve my score it because I like the song but it's rarely..

I'm not asking " how to improve " I'm asking why my " performance rank " doesn't increase at all?

Pettanko wrote:

if you want pp get full combo on maps instead of having C's and B's with bad accuracy
like i said, you need to full combo/get high combo on maps with decent acc if you want to get pp. doesn't matter if you play maps out of your reach if you get shitty acc/combo you likely won't get pp, that's just how the system works
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun
But what about the improved rank I got on: Black Raison d'etre - Van!shment Th!s World (TV Size) [Insane] ??

My " Top Ranks " tab lists that map as my 5'th best.. with a C and 1.3 mil score.. but I actually have a B on it with a 3.3 mil score.. but my B rank is nowhere to be seen on my profile.. why is that?
Blueprint
Ill spec you when I'm online and give you pp
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Blueprint wrote:

Ill spec you when I'm online and give you pp

How does that even work?

And in truth, I couldn't care less about having a high pp. I was just wondering about why it never went up.
Vuelo Eluko
its hard to get pp without getting at least like a half combo. i had to get a half combo on remote control just to get 6 pp and that's a 3.67 star map. it gets worse on even easier maps

full combos are love, full combos are life.

sadly it means its hard to improve while ranking up, best to improve then try ranking up, then improve some more, then rank up again, endless cycle.

im sure as hell not going to get any pp for passing stuff like just awake or tu4ar because i cant combo well enough because its really hard for me, but i will improve better than trying to FC stuff I think.
Blueprint

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Blueprint wrote:

Ill spec you when I'm online and give you pp

How does that even work?

And in truth, I couldn't care less about having a high pp. I was just wondering about why it never went up.
Regardless of what maps you play with out a good combo you get nothing, and what I meant was I was going to try and judge your capabilities and give you maps to play
Vuelo Eluko
exactly even if you passed big black or freedom dive with like a 250 combo and a C you'd probably get nothing.
DeletedUser_4041880
Your top raks are almost entirely made up of A's B's and C's. Make those S ranks before you ask why you aren't gaining any PP
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Blueprint wrote:

Regardless of what maps you play with out a good combo you get nothing, and what I meant was I was going to try and judge your capabilities and give you maps to play

Oh, sure.

I'll probably play worse than I usually do because I'm being spectated but go ahead.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Pretzel-kun wrote:

But what about the improved rank I got on: Black Raison d'etre - Van!shment Th!s World (TV Size) [Insane] ??

My " Top Ranks " tab lists that map as my 5'th best.. with a C and 1.3 mil score.. but I actually have a B on it with a 3.3 mil score.. but my B rank is nowhere to be seen on my profile.. why is that?

Could someone answer this?

I also have an S rank on: Akasaki Chinatsu, Tamura Mutsumi - Futari no Kimochi no Honto no Himitsu (TV Size) [Insane]

But my Top Ranks still lists my B rank as my highest..

Actually, I have a lot of songs where it says I have a C or B rank.. but I actually have A or S ranks on them.. but this website doesn't register it or something..
Vuelo Eluko
the scores may not be submitting.
are they on global?
if so you may even be looking at the wrong mode
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

the scores may not be submitting.
are they on global?
if so you may even be looking at the wrong mode

So because I played it while my scoreboard was set to " Local ranking " - they didn't register online? What kind of terrible system is that? I've always hated Osu's ranking system but this is without a doubt the dumbest thing I've ever seen in this game.
kuur0
I dunno if I should be crying or should I be laughing.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Kirai- wrote:

I dunno if I should be crying or should I be laughing.
You're one of the reasons why these forums have such a bad reputation.
kuur0

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Kirai- wrote:

I dunno if I should be crying or should I be laughing.
You're one of the reasons why these forums have such a bad reputation.
Why care about pp now anyway... Just play...
Vuelo Eluko

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

the scores may not be submitting.
are they on global?
if so you may even be looking at the wrong mode

So because I played it while my scoreboard was set to " Local ranking " - they didn't register online? What kind of terrible system is that? I've always hated Osu's ranking system but this is without a doubt the dumbest thing I've ever seen in this game.
this is not the case, if the score didnt submit you may have been offline when you finished the map..
go go Global and see if your A/S scores show up, if they do there's a legitimate problem you should contact support about with it not showing up in top ranks.

if not the scores didnt submit because you may have been logged off/it bugged/need to update osu/get better internet etc etc..

Pretzel-kun wrote:

You're one of the reasons why these forums have such a bad reputation.
no thats me
noone likes my shitposting and everyone wants me gone
but i persevere
kuur0
^
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Kirai- wrote:

Why care about pp now anyway... Just play...

Did you even read what I said?


And in truth, I couldn't care less about having a high pp. I was just wondering about why it never went up.

^ I said that on the last page..
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

this is not the case, if the score didnt submit you may have been offline when you finished the map..
go go Global and see if your A/S scores show up, if they do there's a legitimate problem you should contact support about with it not showing up in top ranks.

if not the scores didnt submit because you may have been logged off/it bugged/need to update osu/get better internet etc etc..

But how is it even possible to be offline while playing? I don't really play if I don't have an internet connection and I've never heard of an "offline mode"..
Vuelo Eluko

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

this is not the case, if the score didnt submit you may have been offline when you finished the map..
go go Global and see if your A/S scores show up, if they do there's a legitimate problem you should contact support about with it not showing up in top ranks.

if not the scores didnt submit because you may have been logged off/it bugged/need to update osu/get better internet etc etc..

But how is it even possible to be offline while playing? I don't really play if I don't have an internet connection and I've never heard of an "offline mode"..
kuur0
:)

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Kirai- wrote:

Why care about pp now anyway... Just play...

Did you even read what I said?


And in truth, I couldn't care less about having a high pp. I was just wondering about why it never went up.

^ I said that on the last page..
Cool.
Vuelo Eluko
does your name show up for the A/S plays? If the name field is blank, you weren't logged in.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Bassist Vinyl wrote:


Well, no. I'm not in offline mode..
Ninonuko
That van!shment th!s world 2,79 web star will give you more than 70 pp if you fc it with S score (not sure about A)
Fc with A score is better than S without fc (if you need pp)
And my 1st and 2nd top rank isn't fc (i miss at the end of the song) and i'm verry depressed because of that
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

does your name show up for the A/S plays? If the name field is blank, you weren't logged in.

http://i.imgur.com/NaQmgw6.png

This isn't an A or S rank, I know.
Vuelo Eluko

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

does your name show up for the A/S plays? If the name field is blank, you weren't logged in.

http://i.imgur.com/NaQmgw6.png

This isn't an A or S rank, I know.
please show me what global says
Pizzicato
i have the same exact issue ever since ppv2 came out
this system hates me ;w;
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

please show me what global says
Global is just the C.
Vuelo Eluko

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

please show me what global says
Global is just the C.
then the score did not submit. sorry.
has nothing to do with having local selected
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

then the score did not submit. sorry.
has nothing to do with having local selected
It appears that none of the scores I've gotten these past 8 days have been submitted.. cool

And omg remove this " you can't embed 2 quotes ".. these forums are so bad it gives me a headache
Vuelo Eluko

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

then the score did not submit. sorry.
has nothing to do with having local selected
It appears that none of the scores I've gotten these past 8 days have been submitted.. cool

And omg remove this " you can't embed 2 quotes ".. these forums are so bad it gives me a headache
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kuur0

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

please show me what global says
Global is just the C.
Might be internet issue then... Cause if you are logged in then everything should submit without problem unless your internet is slow or constantly disconnect
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Kirai- wrote:

Might be internet issue then... Cause if you are logged in then everything should submit without problem unless your internet is slow or constantly disconnect
My internet has been acting pretty normal lately. It did act slow yesterday but that only lasted for 5 minutes..
Monstrata
1. Only your top score is recorded. The higher the combo the better the score. Basically, High Combo C > Low Combo S. Don't judge your score based on the grade, judge it by combo and accuracy.

edit: if you had an S, and got a higher score but it was a C, that C score will replace your S score. osu! will only look at your highest score on each map.

2. your max combo^0.8/song's max combo^0.8 factors in how much pp you'll receive. Basically, if you only get a half combo, you're already saying good bye toat least half the pp you could have achieved if you full combo'ed.

3. If you want to gain pp, full combo songs. Easy as that. If you want to improve, keep doing what you do. But know that full combo-ing songs also helps you improve stamina and consistency... they aren't completely useless to improving.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

monstrata wrote:

1. Only your top score is recorded. The higher the combo the better the score. Basically, High Combo C > Low Combo S. Don't judge your score based on the grade, judge it by combo and accuracy.

edit: if you had an S, and got a higher score but it was a C, that C score will replace your S score. osu! will only look at your highest score on each map.

2. your max combo^0.8/song's max combo^0.8 factors in how much pp you'll receive. Basically, if you only get a half combo, you're already saying good bye toat least half the pp you could have achieved if you full combo'ed.

3. If you want to gain pp, full combo songs. Easy as that. If you want to improve, keep doing what you do. But know that full combo-ing songs also helps you improve stamina and consistency... they aren't completely useless to improving.
My combo on the C score on Vanishment this world was 275.. my B score had a combo of 459
Tamako Lumisade
Sometimes, when you go back from a score-screen to menu too fast, your score doesn't register online. It happened to me a few times.
pielak213
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Monstrata

Pretzel-kun wrote:

My combo on the C score on Vanishment this world was 275.. my B score had a combo of 459
But which score was higher? Only the highest score is counted so even though you had a higher combo and a B, you must've messed up your combo a lot more on that run resulting in a lower score.
Vuelo Eluko

monstrata wrote:

Pretzel-kun wrote:

My combo on the C score on Vanishment this world was 275.. my B score had a combo of 459
But which score was higher? Only the highest score is counted so even though you had a higher combo and a B, you must've messed up your combo a lot more on that run resulting in a lower score.
it's a 275 combo vs a 459 on a tv size...

the score didn't submit
Monstrata
Oh... I didnt see it was tv-size. thought it was full sized. That's unfortunate

Edit: dang though. a 450x combo on Insane at that level is hard to believe. Are you sure you aren't comparing a 450x Combo on Hard to a 250x Combo on Insane? Either way i think a screenshot of your local scores would really explain a lot.
InControL_old
Sometime the scores don't register (it happened to me once or twice)

If you really care for PP play hard songs with HR&HD and easy/normal songs with DT and try to full combo them
Blueprint
I can't hd hr hard I don't think he can xD
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

monstrata wrote:

Pretzel-kun wrote:

My combo on the C score on Vanishment this world was 275.. my B score had a combo of 459
But which score was higher? Only the highest score is counted so even though you had a higher combo and a B, you must've messed up your combo a lot more on that run resulting in a lower score.

The C score with the 275 combo had a 1.3 mil score.. the 459 combo had a 3.4 mil score.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

monstrata wrote:

Oh... I didnt see it was tv-size. thought it was full sized. That's unfortunate

Edit: dang though. a 450x combo on Insane at that level is hard to believe. Are you sure you aren't comparing a 450x Combo on Hard to a 250x Combo on Insane? Either way i think a screenshot of your local scores would really explain a lot.
Check the thread.. The things you're asking about has already been answered...

http://i.imgur.com/NaQmgw6.png

There's a picture.
Rampax
U shud forget about tis and try to fc tat score again .
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

rampaxhellex wrote:

U shud forget about tis and try to fc tat score again .

That wont work.. none of my scores are being submitted so even if I did FC it, it wouldn't submit..
Rampax
Try fcing tat song u wanted and give me a screenshot on the global rank even if u cant fc get a score like tat 3.4 m score on the same song.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

rampaxhellex wrote:

Try fcing tat song u wanted and give me a screenshot on the global rank even if u cant fc get a score like tat 3.4 m score on the same song.

But my scores don't submit.. so the global rank will still be a C with a 1.3 mil score.
Rampax

Pretzel-kun wrote:

rampaxhellex wrote:

Try fcing tat song u wanted and give me a screenshot on the global rank even if u cant fc get a score like tat 3.4 m score on the same song.

But my scores don't submit.. so the global rank will still be a C with a 1.3 mil score.
Why not do wut i recommended u and show me the screenshot first.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

rampaxhellex wrote:

Why not do wut i recommended u and show me the screenshot first.
No thanks.
Rampax

Pretzel-kun wrote:

rampaxhellex wrote:

Why not do wut i recommended u and show me the screenshot first.
No thanks.
Glad i can help ;D
Blueprint
I do believe he has problems submitting scores, He can play difficult maps
From what I've gathered from watching he lacks the ability to full combo and is really picky with what he plays.
Just download something to record and when you actually fc and it doesn't submit send it to peppy.
Rampax

Blueprint wrote:

I do believe he has problems submitting scores, He can play difficult maps
From what I've gathered from watching he lacks the ability to full combo and is really picky with what he plays.
Just download something to record and when you actually fc and it doesn't submit send it to peppy.
I think he solved it. He seems to be avoiding us. If not then he is just lazy or i dunno.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

rampaxhellex wrote:

I think he solved it. He seems to be avoiding us. If not then he is just lazy or i dunno.
I haven't solved it. And I'm not lazy. I just know that whatever you're suggesting wont work.. Stop spamming my thread.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Blueprint wrote:

Just download something to record and when you actually fc and it doesn't submit send it to peppy.

Right.. I recorded a map that I fc'ed.. how do I send it to peppy?
Rewben2

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Blueprint wrote:

Just download something to record and when you actually fc and it doesn't submit send it to peppy.

Right.. I recorded a map that I fc'ed.. how do I send it to peppy?
There's absolutely no chance that's happening. If your score fails to submit then that's that.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Rewben2 wrote:

There's absolutely no chance that's happening. If your score fails to submit then that's that.
But all of my scores fail to submit.. someone must be able to help?
Pettanko

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Blueprint wrote:

Just download something to record and when you actually fc and it doesn't submit send it to peppy.

Right.. I recorded a map that I fc'ed.. how do I send it to peppy?
10/10 top lel
Rewben2

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Rewben2 wrote:

There's absolutely no chance that's happening. If your score fails to submit then that's that.
But all of my scores fail to submit.. someone must be able to help?
Well there's a technical difficulty that's likely on your end, this isn't technical support.

I can tell you for sure that sending peppy your score/replay/ is not going to make anything happen. If your score failed to submit after the allowed time limit (15 mins I think it is?) then it's gg.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

Rewben2 wrote:

Well there's a technical difficulty that's likely on your end, this isn't technical support.

I can tell you for sure that sending peppy your score/replay/ is not going to make anything happen. If your score failed to submit after the allowed time limit (15 mins I think it is?) then it's gg.
But this randomly started happening 9 days ago.. I've no idea what causes and no idea how to find out.
Maxis

Pretzel-kun wrote:

Rewben2 wrote:

Well there's a technical difficulty that's likely on your end, this isn't technical support.

I can tell you for sure that sending peppy your score/replay/ is not going to make anything happen. If your score failed to submit after the allowed time limit (15 mins I think it is?) then it's gg.
But this randomly started happening 9 days ago.. I've no idea what causes and no idea how to find out.
Like Rewben said, this isn't technical support. You'll have better luck over here.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun

xMaxisx wrote:

Like Rewben said, this isn't technical support. You'll have better luck over here.
Actually I didn't make this thread to get help with this.. it just de-railed into this subject. I already made a thread in the Tech. Support forum.. but no one helped.
Maxis

Pretzel-kun wrote:

xMaxisx wrote:

Like Rewben said, this isn't technical support. You'll have better luck over here.
Actually I didn't make this thread to get help with this.. it just de-railed into this subject. I already made a thread in the Tech. Support forum.. but no one helped.
Ooh, my bad, apologies.

To be honest I have no idea what could be going on, but it's the reason your rank is going down at the very least (you aren't getting pp, other people are getting pp = other people passing you). There's a bunch of reasons this could be happening--internet issues, firewall issues, etc.--but I'm assuming you've already checked all of this. I'll post on your tech support thread if I find out anything relevant.
Topic Starter
Pretzel-kun
Actually.. I managed to fix it... nevermind
Granger
So what was wrong?
InControL_old

Blueprint wrote:

I do believe he has problems submitting scores, He can play difficult maps
From what I've gathered from watching he lacks the ability to full combo and is really picky with what he plays.
Just download something to record and when you actually fc and it doesn't submit send it to peppy.
Give me 40 seconds 2.6-2.9 stars songs please xD
EcchiMeister
your scores doesn't submit ? you are probably having internet connection problems, look into that.

judging from your profile stats you're like my friend who loves to play beatmaps out of his league resulting bad overall accuracy.
the thing is its not about fcing or finishing a ridiculously hard map but its all about having a really good accuracy say 96%+ to gain enough pp.
I remember the time when I just keep on playing saiya remote control insane I was like 320 combo on it ranking B how much pp it gave me ? well 5 or 6 iirc, almost to no worth. I know its not an FC, a good example though. besides how can you say FC when you rank B or C on some maps unless you are consistent at clicking 50's.

TL;DR: improve your accuracy, settle for easier maps for now.

and also if you are picky with songs then download as many beatmaps as possible. you might find few to your likings which you might do extremely good at it and gain pp easily.
Granger

InControL wrote:

Blueprint wrote:

I do believe he has problems submitting scores, He can play difficult maps
From what I've gathered from watching he lacks the ability to full combo and is really picky with what he plays.
Just download something to record and when you actually fc and it doesn't submit send it to peppy.
Give me 40 seconds 2.6-2.9 stars songs please xD
Drop - Granat maybe? Its 3.3, dunno how much of a difference that is..
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