2014-04-19 21:22 ts8zs: hi m4m
2014-04-19 21:22 Kenssai: yoo
2014-04-19 21:22 Kenssai: sure~
2014-04-19 21:22 Kenssai: map?
2014-04-19 21:23 ts8zs: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/370256 Tamura Yukari - Himitsu no Door kara Ai ni Kite (TV Size)]
2014-04-19 21:23 ts8zs: or
2014-04-19 21:23 ts8zs: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/367454 Hanazawa Kana, Itou Shizuka, Toyosaki Aki - Minna no Namee wo Irete Kudasai]
2014-04-19 21:23 Kenssai: OHH
2014-04-19 21:23 2ND *.*
2014-04-19 21:23 Kenssai: D-FRAG
2014-04-19 21:23 Kenssai: I wanted to map it but was too noob at that time haha xD
2014-04-19 21:24 ts8zs: Why most of you choose 2nd
2014-04-19 21:24 Kenssai: I dont mind helping 1st too xD
2014-04-19 21:24 Kenssai: or we could do both
2014-04-19 21:24 Kenssai: I have 2 map
2014-04-19 21:24 Kenssai: from same anime
2014-04-19 21:24 Kenssai: and d-frag is full of randomness~ which make ppl love the comedy xD
2014-04-19 21:25 ts8zs: if you want
2014-04-19 21:25 Kenssai: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/406018 yanaginagi - Tokohana (TV Size) [Nardo's Muzukashii]]
2014-04-19 21:25 Kenssai: thats my 2nd
2014-04-19 21:25 Kenssai: you dont have to do the 2 taiko xD
2014-04-19 21:25 Kenssai: im just in editing
2014-04-19 21:26 Kenssai: um 2nd imma give you a go since lots of stuff to change XD
2014-04-19 21:26 ts8zs: wow,are you a new mapper?
2014-04-19 21:27 ts8zs: can we irc?
2014-04-19 21:28 Kenssai: yeah I'm new >,<!!! I did try a lots of stuff before actually submiting my 1st map
2014-04-19 21:28 Kenssai: suure~
2014-04-19 21:28 Kenssai: but I'll post mine in your thread in case o.o
2014-04-19 21:29 ts8zs: ok
2014-04-19 21:29 ts8zs: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/402496 fripSide - black bullet (TV Size) [Insane]]
2014-04-19 21:29 ts8zs: whistle used like old maps,this is not recommend by me
2014-04-19 21:30 Kenssai: ohh okii
2014-04-19 21:30 Kenssai: so I should get all the whistle out?
2014-04-19 21:31 ts8zs: um...This song not fit Normal whistle I think
2014-04-19 21:32 ts8zs: I think you can use Soft,clap use normal-hit
2014-04-19 21:33 Kenssai: hmm
2014-04-19 21:33 ts8zs: this clap sounds strange too...
2014-04-19 21:34 Kenssai: really? I think it sound good on it o.o
2014-04-19 21:34 ts8zs: This clap is better to make 24clap
2014-04-19 21:34 Kenssai: is just the whistle might be boithering me too
2014-04-19 21:34 Kenssai: oh like not to much?
2014-04-19 21:35 ts8zs: samples need be more regular
2014-04-19 21:36 ts8zs: like
2014-04-19 21:36 ts8zs: 00:07:124 (1,2,3,4,5) - you use finish here
2014-04-19 21:36 Kenssai: yeah
2014-04-19 21:36 ts8zs: 00:10:220 (3,4) - this is simillar to that
2014-04-19 21:37 ts8zs: but you didn't
2014-04-19 21:37 ts8zs: this is regular
2014-04-19 21:37 Kenssai: ohh
2014-04-19 21:37 Kenssai: I was going to add it just now just realize
2014-04-19 21:37 ts8zs: 00:18:543 (6) - you finish at here
2014-04-19 21:38 Kenssai: but okii thanks
2014-04-19 21:38 Kenssai: yeah
2014-04-19 21:38 ts8zs: 00:18:930 (2) - but song makes a finish here
2014-04-19 21:38 ts8zs: If sounds simillar,add it:3
2014-04-19 21:38 Kenssai: OHH
2014-04-19 21:39 Kenssai: it does
2014-04-19 21:39 Kenssai: woahhh thanks
!!!
2014-04-19 21:39 ts8zs: 00:30:930 (4) - this whistle
2014-04-19 21:39 Kenssai: 00:28:027 (1) - here need finish?
2014-04-19 21:40 ts8zs: why whistle here
2014-04-19 21:40 Kenssai: hahaha reason = I'm noob with hitsound xD
2014-04-19 21:40 ts8zs: regular._.
2014-04-19 21:40 ts8zs: ok,If you were not good at hitsound
2014-04-19 21:40 ts8zs: put finish at song makes finish
2014-04-19 21:41 ts8zs: put clap as 24
2014-04-19 21:41 Kenssai: but what do you mean as 24?
2014-04-19 21:41 ts8zs: put whistle (soft) follow a instrument
2014-04-19 21:42 ts8zs: 00:00:350 - first line 00:00:737 - second 00:01:124 - third 00:01:511 - forth
2014-04-19 21:42 ts8zs: second and forth
2014-04-19 21:43 ts8zs: soft whistle could be put as a mess,as my experience:3
2014-04-19 21:43 ts8zs: ok that's sample
2014-04-19 21:43 ts8zs: now we talk about notes
2014-04-19 21:44 Kenssai: wait
2014-04-19 21:44 Kenssai: I put note on those four line?
2014-04-19 21:44 ts8zs: 2,4
2014-04-19 21:45 ts8zs: some of your map used 24 clap correctly
2014-04-19 21:45 ts8zs: you can look them up:3
2014-04-19 21:45 Kenssai: on google? xD
2014-04-19 21:45 ts8zs: 00:13:704 (4,2) - sliders like this looks narrow
2014-04-19 21:45 ts8zs: in your mapXD
2014-04-19 21:46 Kenssai: hahaha oups xD
2014-04-19 21:46 ts8zs: Hardly to see 1/2 sliders like this
2014-04-19 21:46 Kenssai: okii
2014-04-19 21:46 Kenssai: so should make it less curvy o.o
2014-04-19 21:46 ts8zs: there are many:3
2014-04-19 21:47 Kenssai: so I should fix all of that
2014-04-19 21:48 ts8zs: Later you can fix it by yourself,It is easy to found out:3
2014-04-19 21:48 ts8zs: Then,blanket
2014-04-19 21:48 ts8zs: 00:16:414 (3,5) -
2014-04-19 21:49 Kenssai: blanket?
2014-04-19 21:49 Kenssai: o.o
2014-04-19 21:50 ts8zs:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1527094 patterns like this called blanket
2014-04-19 21:50 Kenssai: ohh
2014-04-19 21:51 ts8zs:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/15270982014-04-19 21:51 ts8zs: this is called blanket too
2014-04-19 21:51 Kenssai: is like a circle in a slider curve
2014-04-19 21:51 Kenssai: right?
2014-04-19 21:52 ts8zs: Use them could make you map a surface
2014-04-19 21:52 ts8zs: not a line from start to end
2014-04-19 21:52 Kenssai: ohh okiii
2014-04-19 21:52 Kenssai: soo if Im learning correctly xD
2014-04-19 21:53 Kenssai: 00:16:414 (3,4) - blanket
2014-04-19 21:53 ts8zs: And this could prove that you make this map carefully :3
2014-04-19 21:53 Kenssai: 00:16:801 (4,5) - blanket
2014-04-19 21:53 Kenssai: ohh okii
2014-04-19 21:54 ts8zs: flow:
2014-04-19 21:54 ts8zs: umm flow is a way to make maps plays comfortable
2014-04-19 21:54 ts8zs: just
2014-04-19 21:55 ts8zs: 鈥︹€ust use your mouse to move with the map will easily test out which is good flow
2014-04-19 21:55 Kenssai: how about this?
http://puu.sh/8eVa8.jpg2014-04-19 21:56 ts8zs: pattens feels comfortable is good flow
2014-04-19 21:56 ts8zs: this will takes long time to understand it XD
2014-04-19 21:57 ts8zs: About note, the last
2014-04-19 21:57 ts8zs: don't use long straght stream._.
2014-04-19 21:57 Kenssai: okii
2014-04-19 21:57 Kenssai: not even once? O.O
2014-04-19 21:58 Kenssai: 01:14:285 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2014-04-19 21:58 Kenssai: cuz this one
2014-04-19 21:58 Kenssai: is pretty easy
2014-04-19 21:58 ts8zs: It looks annoying
2014-04-19 21:59 ts8zs: 00:47:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this looks very ...Sorry my english is bad
2014-04-19 22:00 Kenssai: ohh
2014-04-19 22:00 ts8zs: You couldn't see it in most of new maps now.
2014-04-19 22:00 Kenssai: okii Ill change that
2014-04-19 22:00 Kenssai: and was wondering if is ok I keep the one I posted
2014-04-19 22:00 Kenssai: yeah make sense xD
2014-04-19 22:00 Kenssai: Ill make the stream curve more
2014-04-19 22:01 ts8zs: that one seems most difficult part of your map
2014-04-19 22:01 ts8zs: 01:14:285 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2014-04-19 22:01 ts8zs: use them like slider
2014-04-19 22:02 Kenssai: well is easy, all my tester passed this for some reason o.o
2014-04-19 22:02 ts8zs: yes it is easy
2014-04-19 22:03 ts8zs: um...use stream like slider,straght slider looks annoying so does straght stream
2014-04-19 22:03 Kenssai: okii
2014-04-19 22:03 Kenssai: so I should curve it
2014-04-19 22:03 Kenssai: this part too
2014-04-19 22:04 ts8zs: and if you really want to
2014-04-19 22:04 ts8zs: make it really straght
2014-04-19 22:04 ts8zs: not like this
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/15271342014-04-19 22:06 ts8zs: 01:24:446 (1) - most song end with grew smaller could be end with a spinner
2014-04-19 22:06 ts8zs: try end this spinner at 01:29:188 -
2014-04-19 22:07 ts8zs: It feels better
2014-04-19 22:08 Kenssai: fixed
2014-04-19 22:08 ts8zs: symmetry could make your map more beautiful too,like blanket,not certainly of center:3
2014-04-19 22:09 ts8zs: That's all of notes
2014-04-19 22:09 ts8zs: Now,rhythme
2014-04-19 22:09 ts8zs: 00:13:511 (3,4,1) - this is bad rhythme
2014-04-19 22:09 Kenssai:
http://puu.sh/8eVRB.jpg this one isnt a blanket
2014-04-19 22:09 Kenssai: but is it ok?
2014-04-19 22:10 ts8zs: blanket is a method to make map,not you must blanket
2014-04-19 22:11 Kenssai: haha okii xD
2014-04-19 22:11 ts8zs:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/15271532014-04-19 22:11 Kenssai: thanks again :3!! it help me a lots
2014-04-19 22:11 ts8zs: Rhythme here should be like this
2014-04-19 22:11 ts8zs: This is what music sounds like
2014-04-19 22:12 ts8zs: and you could simplify this
2014-04-19 22:12 ts8zs: 00:13:511 - here
2014-04-19 22:13 ts8zs: it could be simplify to
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1527162 to fit hard
2014-04-19 22:14 ts8zs:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1527169 to fit normal
2014-04-19 22:15 Kenssai: 00:14:479 -
2014-04-19 22:15 Kenssai: but this part
2014-04-19 22:15 Kenssai: feel kinda empty
2014-04-19 22:15 Kenssai: o.o
2014-04-19 22:15 ts8zs: just a sample not needed to
2014-04-19 22:16 Kenssai: okii
2014-04-19 22:16 ts8zs: and i didn't finished it
2014-04-19 22:16 ts8zs: you can change the not to a silder
2014-04-19 22:16 ts8zs: *note
2014-04-19 22:17 ts8zs: What i mean was some sounds in music could be ignored ,not follow the rhythme of music too much
2014-04-19 22:18 ts8zs: but it must fit the music
2014-04-19 22:18 Kenssai: okii
2014-04-19 22:18 ts8zs: This is music game not action game :3
2014-04-19 22:18 Kenssai: hahahaha xD
2014-04-19 22:18 Kenssai: dang you know what im into xD
2014-04-19 22:19 ts8zs: i can't understand that sentence鈫?
2014-04-19 22:19 Kenssai: ohh I mean you know what I game I love
2014-04-19 22:19 Kenssai: "action game" xD
2014-04-19 22:20 ts8zs: also you must follow the rhythme
2014-04-19 22:20 Kenssai: osu! my 1st online music game xD
2014-04-19 22:20 ts8zs: not "overmap"
2014-04-19 22:20 Kenssai: okii
2014-04-19 22:20 ts8zs: 00:49:608 (2,2) - like this
2014-04-19 22:20 ts8zs: overmaped
2014-04-19 22:21 Kenssai: oh it doesnt fit O.O
2014-04-19 22:21 ts8zs: because music didn't have this sound,and you didn't have repeat partten to show this is a rhythme made by you to makes music more
2014-04-19 22:22 ts8zs: more ... more what XD
2014-04-19 22:22 Kenssai: hahaha more something~ xD
2014-04-19 22:22 Kenssai: more __________________
2014-04-19 22:22 ts8zs: a rhythme made by you like player use osu! as a instrument
2014-04-19 22:22 Kenssai: but I added those a lots
2014-04-19 22:22 Kenssai: x,x
2014-04-19 22:22 Kenssai: in kiai part
2014-04-19 22:23 Kenssai: oh dang o.o
2014-04-19 22:23 Kenssai: which is not good right? D:
2014-04-19 22:23 ts8zs: if you need overmap try to make rhythme in law
2014-04-19 22:24 ts8zs: I comprehend this as repeat repeat repeat
2014-04-19 22:24 ts8zs: music is repeat
2014-04-19 22:24 ts8zs: noise don't repeat
2014-04-19 22:24 ts8zs: that's difference bweteen music and noise
2014-04-19 22:24 Kenssai: oh oki
2014-04-19 22:25 ts8zs: so if you want overmap,try repeat once and once and twice :3
2014-04-19 22:25 ts8zs: BASARA is an good example
2014-04-19 22:26 Kenssai:
http://puu.sh/8eWFg.jpg2014-04-19 22:26 Kenssai: so I could change it something like that
2014-04-19 22:26 Kenssai: basara as for sengoku basara? O.O
2014-04-19 22:26 ts8zs:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/130192014-04-19 22:27 Kenssai: 00:52:608 (7,8,1) -
http://puu.sh/8eWK0.jpg2014-04-19 22:27 ts8zs: That's was about overmap
2014-04-19 22:27 Kenssai: oh
2014-04-19 22:28 ts8zs: then osu and taiko's rhythme have one thing different
2014-04-19 22:28 ts8zs: osu have short sliders
2014-04-19 22:28 Kenssai: taiko have stream
2014-04-19 22:28 Kenssai: when is short slider
2014-04-19 22:28 ts8zs: sliders could show vocal continuation
2014-04-19 22:29 ts8zs: So sliderend could be end at a place which have no music
2014-04-19 22:29 ts8zs: most where have music
2014-04-19 22:29 ts8zs: *mostly
2014-04-19 22:29 ts8zs: that's all I want to say:3
2014-04-19 22:30 Kenssai: woahh
2014-04-19 22:30 ts8zs: I'll post it then i needn't say same things to others again XD
2014-04-19 22:30 Kenssai: as a beginner ill try to keep all that haha
2014-04-19 22:30 Kenssai: yeah xD
2014-04-19 22:30 Kenssai: but woah huge thanks!!! teach me so much stuff about mapping
2014-04-19 22:30 ts8zs: almost 1 hours XD
2014-04-19 22:31 Kenssai: thanks a lots!! >,<!!
2014-04-19 22:31 Kenssai: sowwy I'm so noob >,<
2014-04-19 22:31 ts8zs: I'll be glad if I saw a new good mapper in osu :3
2014-04-19 22:31 Kenssai: Ill fix my kiai repeat part
2014-04-19 22:31 ts8zs: most new mapper does:3
2014-04-19 22:31 Kenssai: I'll try my best!!!
2014-04-19 22:33 ts8zs: I'm thinking if this coversation improves my english XD
2014-04-19 22:34 Kenssai: hahhaha, well I'm not really good myself, and I'm sure you're totally better then me xD
2014-04-19 22:34 Kenssai: I keep messing up when I write "rhythme"
2014-04-19 22:34 Kenssai: while you write it right haha