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i am always curious why this is the case for so many kinds of the people that visit here

why is it that some people grow to be so deeply attentive/innocent and/or well-adjusted in their pro-sociality/eusociality (maybe i'm not using this term correctly, i should revisit that again soon) that they seem to communicate and bond with people as easily as they seem to (not to suggest that there aren't a lot of distressing events in highly-social contexts, as there are many ways of growing jaded/disillusioned and/or victimized),

while so many are ambiguously drifting by on connections they make with other bored internet people, but are otherwise entirely starved or emptied of any meaningfully effective social skills that let them communicate and bond with people while having some sense of identity that isnt [smothered in a list of rigidly sterile practical tips] or [entirely improvised and reliant on how much other people dont care]?

of course, there are more social patterns than this, but i notice this a lot... or at least something approximating it

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Reyalp51 wrote:

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Achromalia wrote:

i am always curious why this is the case for so many kinds of the people that visit here

why is it that some people grow to be so deeply attentive/innocent and/or well-adjusted in their pro-sociality/eusociality (maybe i'm not using this term correctly, i should revisit that again soon) that they seem to communicate and bond with people as easily as they seem to (not to suggest that there aren't a lot of distressing events in highly-social contexts, as there are many ways of growing jaded/disillusioned and/or victimized),

while so many are ambiguously drifting by on connections they make with other bored internet people, but are otherwise entirely starved or emptied of any meaningfully effective social skills that let them communicate and bond with people while having some sense of identity that isnt [smothered in a list of rigidly sterile practical tips] or [entirely improvised and reliant on how much other people dont care]?

of course, there are more social patterns than this, but i notice this a lot... or at least something approximating it

From my point of view, people who suck at socializing often find themselves talking with other people who suck at socializing, so it makes sense for me that this type of division in the demographic of certain activities or places do exist

burgernfat wrote:

Whoever hides near this car is a fucking bitch.

Patatitta wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

i am always curious why this is the case for so many kinds of the people that visit here

why is it that some people grow to be so deeply attentive/innocent and/or well-adjusted in their pro-sociality/eusociality (maybe i'm not using this term correctly, i should revisit that again soon) that they seem to communicate and bond with people as easily as they seem to (not to suggest that there aren't a lot of distressing events in highly-social contexts, as there are many ways of growing jaded/disillusioned and/or victimized),

while so many are ambiguously drifting by on connections they make with other bored internet people, but are otherwise entirely starved or emptied of any meaningfully effective social skills that let them communicate and bond with people while having some sense of identity that isnt [smothered in a list of rigidly sterile practical tips] or [entirely improvised and reliant on how much other people dont care]?

of course, there are more social patterns than this, but i notice this a lot... or at least something approximating it

From my point of view, people who suck at socializing often find themselves talking with other people who suck at socializing, so it makes sense for me that this type of division in the demographic of certain activities or places do exist

right, and that's what seems intuitive to me, although i more precisely am trying to imagine and understand the causal web of thousands of specific experiences and contexts that influence us in these ways... it is understandably fair to see it as silly focal point to obsess with because of how impossible a task like "accurately understanding the behaviors that reflect thousands of individual people and the continuities of their experiences", but i think these sociological phenomena genuinely mean that much to me

it always has me imagining a dozen possible intersections of the cultural events we notice around us, not with any substantive theory/model, but just... there's this inexhaustible need to know and undersrand and hopefully use that information to better cultivate and build good healthy friendships and communities

super naively idealistic and impractical, maybe, but it would be sincere

Achromalia wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

i am always curious why this is the case for so many kinds of the people that visit here

why is it that some people grow to be so deeply attentive/innocent and/or well-adjusted in their pro-sociality/eusociality (maybe i'm not using this term correctly, i should revisit that again soon) that they seem to communicate and bond with people as easily as they seem to (not to suggest that there aren't a lot of distressing events in highly-social contexts, as there are many ways of growing jaded/disillusioned and/or victimized),

while so many are ambiguously drifting by on connections they make with other bored internet people, but are otherwise entirely starved or emptied of any meaningfully effective social skills that let them communicate and bond with people while having some sense of identity that isnt [smothered in a list of rigidly sterile practical tips] or [entirely improvised and reliant on how much other people dont care]?

of course, there are more social patterns than this, but i notice this a lot... or at least something approximating it

From my point of view, people who suck at socializing often find themselves talking with other people who suck at socializing, so it makes sense for me that this type of division in the demographic of certain activities or places do exist

right, and that's what seems intuitive to me, although i more precisely am trying to imagine and understand the causal web of thousands of specific experiences and contexts that influence us in these ways... it is understandably fair to see it as silly focal point to obsess with because of how impossible a task like "accurately understanding the behaviors that reflect thousands of individual people and the continuities of their experiences", but i think these sociological phenomena genuinely mean that much to me

it always has me imagining a dozen possible intersections of the cultural events we notice around us, not with any substantive theory/model, but just... there's this inexhaustible need to know and undersrand and hopefully use that information to better cultivate and build good healthy friendships and communities

super naively idealistic and impractical, maybe, but it would be sincere

nah you do have a point, it's kinda weird that we as a society operate in that way, but I guess it's just certain shared experiences that most of we have kinda condition us into liking or being interested in certain things more. The way I see it isn't really a web of thousands of individual specific experiences, and more that we all have certain experiences that kinda mean the same things to us, and it's those life experiences that leads us to places like these

mm, i think these two frames of thought are actually quite compatible from my angle, while maybe fixating on different kinds of scopes and forms of categorizing/organizing experiences and impressions and information

something where they each are part of the other. my thinking brought me to believe nearly everything is related somehow, enough to influence small things that unknowingly are distinct divergence points between/within malleable fuzzy populations. a lot of this is then influenced deeply by a certain kind of absorptive all-encompassing relativism, an "every perspective/phanaeron at once, yet also selectively weighing related features that enable a category of perspectives/phenomena" of trying to connect everything to everything else that congruently holds true, while flexible enough to still accurately depict each contradicting fork of dissonance between frames while still having an underlying framework for sympathizing and operating with each conflicting agent/feature

(by "absorptive all-encompassing relativism", which i believe would happen to be intuitive and common enough to imagine, i mean something like how "experiential exclusivity" can inform someone in distinct ways that fundamentally diverge so that any three given people would agree/disagree or interpret/understand something by what usually are meaningfully different signifiers and definitions and impressions, but at the same time, you could attempt to understand each agent and perspective through each other's viewpoints, despite yourself also fundamentally lacking the distinct continuities of their lives. it would at least approximate and reflect and imitate enough of them that each experience/subject will signify roughly the same thing, in ways that bring us to roughly similar places which themselves influence where we look next)

it's not that each life experience is intrinsically exclusive in practice such that you can only be someone with one kind of experience to find the same significance/substance in an interest as another person, because just as experiences and communities fork apart, they can also melt together as a result of any variable number of causes

...i'm not sure i actually understand this correctly anymore, and i kind of forgot what i had in mind but i appreciate the mutual ecploration of the subject and would love to see more of this reflective awareness in off-topic

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Reyalp51 wrote:

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kira kira

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Ymir wrote:

burgernfat wrote:

Whoever hides near this car is a fucking bitch.

it was me... i was hiding near the car (:<

Achromalia wrote:

mm, i think these two frames of thought are actually quite compatible from my angle, while maybe fixating on different kinds of scopes and forms of categorizing/organizing experiences and impressions and information

something where they each are part of the other. my thinking brought me to believe nearly everything is related somehow, enough to influence small things that unknowingly are distinct divergence points between/within malleable fuzzy populations. a lot of this is then influenced deeply by a certain kind of absorptive all-encompassing relativism, an "every perspective/phanaeron at once, yet also selectively weighing related features that enable a category of perspectives/phenomena" of trying to connect everything to everything else that congruently holds true, while flexible enough to still accurately depict each contradicting fork of dissonance between frames while still having an underlying framework for sympathizing and operating with each conflicting agent/feature

(by "absorptive all-encompassing relativism", which i believe would happen to be intuitive and common enough to imagine, i mean something like how "experiential exclusivity" can inform someone in distinct ways that fundamentally diverge so that any three given people would agree/disagree or interpret/understand something by what usually are meaningfully different signifiers and definitions and impressions, but at the same time, you could attempt to understand each agent and perspective through each other's viewpoints, despite yourself also fundamentally lacking the distinct continuities of their lives. it would at least approximate and reflect and imitate enough of them that each experience/subject will signify roughly the same thing, in ways that bring us to roughly similar places which themselves influence where we look next)

it's not that each life experience is intrinsically exclusive in practice such that you can only be someone with one kind of experience to find the same significance/substance in an interest as another person, because just as experiences and communities fork apart, they can also melt together as a result of any variable number of causes

...i'm not sure i actually understand this correctly anymore, and i kind of forgot what i had in mind but i appreciate the mutual ecploration of the subject and would love to see more of this reflective awareness in off-topic

I mean it's cool to see someone other than myself put more than 10 seconds into writing posts in OT, most of the time people go like "ohhhhhh why are you like thinking OT is for shitposting" but yeah, you can also do shit like this