ive been into experimental music the past week and i dont know why
send me some experimental music you've listen to before
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send me some experimental music you've listen to before
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merzbow if his songs had lyricsNikolai wrote:
ah yes my ears have been violated to the perfectest degreeKolon Dee wrote:
merzbow if his songs had lyricsNikolai wrote:
merzbow for sure is something
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i like this one, actually pretty goodnominomu wrote:
g darius ost
pulse demon is babby's first noise album and honestly it's not even that good
this might be of interest to you
https://lilienrosarian.bandcamp.com/album/every-flower-in-my-garden
had no idea brakence had this kinda stuff on his albums, I've only known him as a sadboy pop dude with decently cool productionKolon Dee wrote:
my new fav experimental music
this might be of interest to you
https://lilienrosarian.bandcamp.com/album/every-flower-in-my-garden
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i am in interest of this, it's actually the variant of experimental music I want to hear when I first got into the genre, stuff like thisxch00F wrote:
this might be of interest to you
https://lilienrosarian.bandcamp.com/album/every-flower-in-my-garden
though this album in particular kinda reminds me of Lowercase (music genre)
since I saw Merzbow and Deathpile in the thread might as well post diff noise artists, Whitehouse probably the most accessible out of these 4 tbh lmao
(huge fucking epilepsy warning for the first 2 videos lmao)
(huge fucking epilepsy warning for the first 2 videos lmao)
Hey anything can be music that's my opinionI AM VERY SMART wrote:
How is this even music? It's just shrill sounds combined together...PlickyPluck wrote:
since I saw Merzbow and Deathpile in the thread might as well post diff noise artists, Whitehouse probably the most accessible out of these 4 tbh lmao
if you wanna try to fw something a bit more rhythmic on the noise side of things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOgxD_tXwBg
also sumn completely different (give this one some time)
tbh music isn't actually all that well defined and a lot of people still debate about what is and is not considered music, and these kinds of fringe genres are why that debate is still ongoing lol. it's an interesting debate for sure. a lot of people will say something like "music is organized noise" which is a pretty good definition but it writes off a bunch of important styles of music like free jazz and musique concrete. if you think of music more as something like "the exploration of sound with expressive intent," imo that opens up the door to a lot of very interesting and crazy stuff. music is still very much a subjective experience tho.I AM VERY SMART wrote:
How is this even music? It's just shrill sounds combined together...
a lot of the enjoyment of noise music is predicated on texture and timbre, sometimes with the added element of "how the fuck do you make a sound like this?" it's honestly pretty hard to make noise that sounds good, at a base level you still need to know how sound and sound design work. poppy put out a noise album a few years ago named "music to scream to" and if you compare it to stuff like merzbow or government alpha, especially the stuff later in their catalogs, it's pretty blatantly amateurish and not well designed/produced.
this isn't on youtube so here's the bandcamp link to one of my fav noise pieces
here's some flashcore
and if we're talking shrill sounds, I'd be doing a disservice by not posting diamanda galas lmao. she's basically a banshee and I mean that in the best and most complimentary way possible. harrowing stuff
edit: o here's another good noise album
Ngl I consider something as music if it intends to be one and not just ear-breaking saturated sounds for nothing. I would lean more towards the "music is organized noise" definition, but I guess anything can be music nowadays, even these kinds of sounds...xch00F wrote:
tbh music isn't actually all that well defined and a lot of people still debate about what is and is not considered music, and these kinds of fringe genres are why that debate is still ongoing lol. it's an interesting debate for sure. a lot of people will say something like "music is organized noise" which is a pretty good definition but it writes off a bunch of important styles of music like free jazz and musique concrete. if you think of music more as something like "the exploration of sound with expressive intent," imo that opens up the door to a lot of very interesting and crazy stuff. music is still very much a subjective experience tho.I AM VERY SMART wrote:
How is this even music? It's just shrill sounds combined together...
a lot of the enjoyment of noise music is predicated on texture and timbre, sometimes with the added element of "how the fuck do you make a sound like this?" it's honestly pretty hard to make noise that sounds good, at a base level you still need to know how sound and sound design work. poppy put out a noise album a few years ago named "music to scream to" and if you compare it to stuff like merzbow or government alpha, especially the stuff later in their catalogs, it's pretty blatantly amateurish and not well designed/produced.this isn't on youtube so here's the bandcamp link to one of my fav noise pieces
here's some flashcore
and if we're talking shrill sounds, I'd be doing a disservice by not posting diamanda galas lmao. she's basically a banshee and I mean that in the best and most complimentary way possible. harrowing stuff
edit: o here's another good noise album
if we're talking intent then merzbow is music because his intent is musical. you could even call his music "organized noise" to a certain extent because while it sounds like noise, he knows what he's doing and he knows how to get the sounds he wants.I AM VERY SMART wrote:
Ngl I consider something as music if it intends to be one and not just ear-breaking saturated sounds for nothing. I would lean more towards the "music is organized noise" definition
but I guess anything can be music nowadays, even these kinds of sounds...this is part of why I brought up free jazz and musique concrete, back at their inceptions most people did not consider these genres "music." electronic music is pretty young in the grand scheme of art, it basically began in the 1910s but didn't start in earnest until the 1940s. free jazz, and I suppose just jazz in general lol, was considered "not music" by a bunch of folks as well. and you can go even further back than this and find instances of the mainstream and critic calling a bunch of wild stuff "not music" because of dissonance, disharmony, lack of structure, etc etc. like I'm pretty sure even some of debussy's pieces were being called "not music" lol.
here's something experimental and goregous, 19 minute long piece by richard chartier (very good drone artist) and gwyneth wentink (very good harpist), electronics and a triple harp
i adore this one, it is so satisfying and playfulI AM VERY SMART wrote:
im gonna save this in a playlist immediately
this too!!! i envy these textures so much how do i make thissssPlickyPluck wrote:
im very charmed by this mood of darker wrongness, the uncertain moans of falling tones and the chirps & squeaks & chirps...
i wish i would listen to more like this...xch00F wrote:
I AM VERY SMART wrote:
how is this even music? it's just shrill sounds combined together...tbhmusic isn't actually all that well defined and a lot of people still debate about what is and is not considered music, and these kinds of fringe genres are why that debate is still ongoing lol. it's an interesting debate for sure. a lot of people will say something like "music is organized noise" which is a pretty good definition but it writes off a bunch of important styles of music like free jazz and musique concrete. if you think of music more as something like "the exploration of sound with expressive intent," imo that opens up the door to a lot of very interesting and crazy stuff. music is still very much a subjective experience tho.
a lot of the enjoyment of noise music is predicated on texture and timbre, sometimes with the added element of "how the fuck do you make a sound like this?" it's honestly pretty hard to make noise that sounds good, at a base level you still need to know how sound and sound design work. poppy put out a noise album a few years ago named "music to scream to" and if you compare it to stuff like merzbow or government alpha, especially the stuff later in their catalogs, it's pretty blatantly amateurish and not well designed/produced.
flashcore:
shrill sounds:
"a banshee [...] in the best and most complimentary way possible, harrowing stuff"
noise:
i love this so much
(i dont know how to make it a vid im dumb xd) nvm im a pro now
the music video is a bit... 💀Yuri wrote:
i love this so much(i dont know how to make it a vid im dumb xd)nvm im a pro now
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...maybe some songs here aren't intuitive to someone else as being experimental, butakmal2232232123 wrote:
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surely this would at least qualify a little bit?
it's pretty straightforward in terms of composition but the goal seems to be to make something that looks cool on an oscilloscope and they're doing it with max msp so while I wouldn't call the music itself experimental, the music paired with the visuals would beAchromalia wrote:
...maybe some songs here aren't intuitive to someone else as being experimental, but
surely this would at least qualify a little bit?
one of my fav channels on youtube, the album this is from is pretty experimental but also incredibly approachable. unfortunately it's also his only truly good album imo. if you want more experimental and left field electronic music that's rooted in techno, check out the label it's from, raster noton
mm! then i think thats smth i wonder about... o.oxch00F wrote:
it's pretty straightforward in terms of composition but the goal seems to be to make something that looks cool on an oscilloscope and they're doing it with max msp so while I wouldn't call the music itself experimental, the music paired with the visuals would beAchromalia wrote:
...maybe some songs here aren't intuitive to someone else as being experimental, but
surely this would at least qualify a little bit?
one of my fav channels on youtube, the album this is from is pretty experimental but also incredibly approachable. unfortunately it's also his only truly good album imo. if you want more experimental and left field electronic music that's rooted in techno, check out the label it's from, raster noton
maybe its that i dont actually understand what makes anything experimental anymore...? or at least not all that well-- not to insist anything is or isn't experimental! but that i just... dont rlly totally know how to weigh and value how much experimentation there is, or what counts as experimentation, whether based on novelty or on a distinct textural quality to the audio, or something that the audio might represent, or maybe the context of that audio. i dont know the scale/scope or even meaning of that, being more like a personal misunderstanding i probably have
putting questions aside-- i am In Love with this can you be my music dealer???? (/j) ty for sharing ;o;
im remembering lots of music i liked several years ago... nothing specifically but like, general places ig
also idk how i missed this urgh,, lots more to save in playlists than i thoughtxch00F wrote:
here's something experimental and goregous, 19 minute long piece by richard chartier (very good drone artist) and gwyneth wentink (very good harpist), electronics and a triple harp
i dont have many clear thoughts abt it yet, but its soothing in a specific explorative sense, this song is a place to be with myself, where i can then just observe what happens... ^^
i see pulse demon, i assume a beginner to merzbow's material - it's a fine album but it's his most popular of course! if you like the completely balls-to-the-wall noise i would recommend Venereology and particularly Noise Mass from what i've heard. the entire release is like 3 minutes but i'm fond of red puck by moore as well.Patatitta wrote:
merzbow for sure is something
(link to Woodpecker No. 2)
imo, "music" is more of a label that is *applied* to sound than something inherent to it, like bird sounds just happen to be melodic and yet we call them birdsong, there's nothing weird about that to most even if it's completely on accident. it puts the onus on the creativity of the individual human which is really cool to me.I AM VERY SMART wrote:
Ngl I consider something as music if it intends to be one and not just ear-breaking saturated sounds for nothing. I would lean more towards the "music is organized noise" definition, but I guess anything can be music nowadays, even these kinds of sounds...
myself, i've been hearing a lot of music, idk how to describe it, but it relies a lot on these rapidly clipping in-and-out noises. it has a sensory aspect to it that just makes my brain feel all tingly. (flashing lights warning on the first video.)
ryoji ikeda!!! i remember theseeee... and i have not heard 0/r yet but this is satifyingly familiar too.... ty for sharing ^^bigredhunterhat wrote:
imo, "music" is more of a label that is *applied* to sound than something inherent to it, like bird sounds just happen to be melodic and yet we call them birdsong, there's nothing weird about that to most even if it's completely on accident. it puts the onus on the creativity of the individual human which is really cool to me.I AM VERY SMART wrote:
Ngl I consider something as music if it intends to be one and not just ear-breaking saturated sounds for nothing. I would lean more towards the "music is organized noise" definition, but I guess anything can be music nowadays, even these kinds of sounds...
myself, i've been hearing a lot of music, idk how to describe it, but it relies a lot on these rapidly clipping in-and-out noises. it has a sensory aspect to it that just makes my brain feel all tingly. (flashing lights warning on the first video.)
i'd hope to be accurate in suggesting i understand what you mean, bc i think i sympathize a lot with this view more... that we project our little personal distinctions rather than necessarily detect an essential musicality, or at least, an interpretable musicality that would in any way be totally separate from our influence on the criteria given to see sounds through-- although idk, maybe that really could be arguable? but to what extent do we understand musicality while at the same time primarily systematizing it and depersonalizing it from our own subjectivities? i don't yet know what this means to people, or how this historically would've been explored, i only seem to sense what i value in what i hear from it and i'd like to believe i could appreciate it and treasure it :>
possible apple - "this is you":
deuteronomy - "esteem (jadeinter.net rmx)":
chookiessss - "angel":
deuteronomy - "esteem (jadeinter.net rmx)":
chookiessss - "angel":
listened to these a bit ago, they're very pretty! the closest to what i was talking about is probably This Is You, but my favourite is probably Esteem it's very pretty thank you for sending happy you like 0/r 
Made In Abyss has the best anime OST ever
