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Are you /have you studying/died Japanese before?

Yes / はい
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28.57%
No / いいえ
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もちろん!
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ドキドキ
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keremaru

今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
Manishh

keremaru wrote:


今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
I love how I am able to read the hiragana and kanji very well in your sentence but then there is this in katakana "フリガナ". I still have not learned katakana ;-;
keremaru

Manishh wrote:

keremaru wrote:


今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
I love how I am able to read the hiragana and kanji very well in your sentence but then there is this in katakana "フリガナ". I still have not learned katakana ;-;
furigana

OLD ass japanese (so old i have to use the new alphabet)
DM FOR MUTUAL

Patatitta wrote:

look I like anime but i'm not a masochist
Ymir

Manishh wrote:

keremaru wrote:


今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
I love how I am able to read the hiragana and kanji very well in your sentence but then there is this in katakana "フリガナ". I still have not learned katakana ;-;
Why have you learned Kanji but not Katakana
Manishh

Ymir wrote:

Manishh wrote:

keremaru wrote:


今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
I love how I am able to read the hiragana and kanji very well in your sentence but then there is this in katakana "フリガナ". I still have not learned katakana ;-;
Why have you learned Kanji but not Katakana
um you know um, you know uh, katakana is annoying
Jangsoodlor
I know how to read a fair bit of hiragana, and a few Kanji (as I used to took Chinese back in middle school)
Scyla
No,I might be really deep into Japanese culture but I can't see any benefit of studying Japanese for myself. For now I'm just fine with subtitles

I know grass/kusa tho
nominomu

Manishh wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Manishh wrote:

keremaru wrote:


今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
I love how I am able to read the hiragana and kanji very well in your sentence but then there is this in katakana "フリガナ". I still have not learned katakana ;-;
Why have you learned Kanji but not Katakana
um you know um, you know uh, katakana is annoying
if u know hiragana then katakana is easier than hiragana tbh
(pls learn it since many katakana words are loaned from english and can be guessed)
Nuuskamuikkunen

keremaru wrote:


今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
H-HENTAIGANA? >///<
Topic Starter
Hachiman Ryouta

Ymir wrote:

I don't really study it because I don't want to learn Kanji, but I do speak it from time to time in VC with friends. I do hope I get the motivation to study it one day so I can have more suitable vocabulary, but I don't plan on being fluent.
Yeah i know, kanji can be difficult to learn, but personally, i have learned a language before, so a third won't hurt, i think. Also i am applying a learning technique i used to not forget things through time, it is called: flashcard method, but maybe you know it already.


Reyalp51 wrote:

one of the hardest to learn, if i had the skill i would rather learn mandarin
Maybe it is just your studying method, don't be discouraged by the nowadays immediate culture, yeah, maybe it will take years, but you need to love the process of learning either japanese or chinese.


Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

I grab it and drop it. Focusing more on listening comprehension.
wow, i personally like the hearing part, i almost understand anything while watching anime and listening to music.


Kobold84 wrote:

多過な田中泣かなかったかな
So cool Kobold, something i would not understand at first sight, but thanks to a friend, i kinda know the true meaning, packed with history and culture about the japanese language. Omigoto-


Manishh wrote:

I had intended on creating the exact thread about a week ago but during my search in finding OT! individual who are already studying Japanese. I stumbled upon kobold and found out he studies japanese, so I struck a conversation and it lasted for an hour and half, causing me to forget about the thread.


I'm probably one of the newest learners in Japanese, having started just three months ago—or at least I thought I was until I discovered you're also diving into it now. Initially, I took the approach of learning 15-20 hiragana characters per day, which, admittedly, isn't the speediest method out there. In hindsight, I believe it's more effective to memorize all hiragana in a single day, and master it while learning vocab. There's a video that articulates this strategy excellently: .

For grammar, I relied on the Tokini Andy Genki series , which proved to be quite helpful. However, I've scaled back my grammar studies for now due to an upcoming exam. Once that's out of the way, I plan to switch to Tae Kim's Guide to Learning Japanese. It's less tied to the Genki book and offers more direct explanations with better examples.


For Kanji, once again, the [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKWrWRFyfYo&list=PLA_RcUI8km1ME3ewzc4pcJ-cA-cw0-nKa&index=1]Tokini Andy kanji series[/url really helped me with making Kanji look less scary, and I did learn my first 80 kanji from his video, which I still remember even though I haven't reviewed them for over a month. He makes them so easy to remember.

I am planning on learning at least 200-300 kanji from RTK-1 (Remembering the Kanji-1), which has over 2000 kanji in it. Each kanji has its own story to make it easier to recall. I know it has mixed reviews; some say it's a waste of time, some say it can be useful. All I want to do is get used to remembering them.

For vocabulary, like everyone else, I use Anki. I've switched between three decks, which I probably shouldn't have, but I guess I made some poor choices. The first deck I used was the JLPT N5 vocabulary deck, which had a total of 800 cards. I think I only completed about 150 cards from it. Then I moved on to the Core 2k deck, which had more meaningful cards, but I switched again when someone suggested a different deck, which I'm currently using. This deck is called Refold JP1k v3 and it focuses more on the 1k most common words, which I find really helpful. Every card seems meaningful, unlike some from my last two decks. It also has a feature where you first try to recall the reading, and then you can check if it's correct by clicking on the eye icon before flipping the card to see the meaning. I love it.

Japanese is definitely a long term commitment. I doubt I will reach a point in 3-4years where I can speak Japanese decently and understand youtube videos. Though If I did, it will be the best achievement of my life.

Yeeeah it will take time ,but, if you like it and have started you have the halfway done. I see your study method is so good and it is similar to the one i use tbh. I have studied actively like for a month, and 4 years ago for like 3 months.


Behrauder wrote:

I already explained why I don't want to learn Japanese in a random post, and I would quote it, but I'm too lazy to look for the post...
i see... (⁠‘⁠◉⁠⌓⁠◉⁠’⁠)

Karmine wrote:

I tried at some point but quickly gave up, couldn't even memorise hiraganas.
Maybe you need something to do daily in japanese to remember the hiraganas. But hey, you've tried, and that's hard for most people.


burgernfat wrote:

didnt japanese have more than 1 alphabet
the only reason i would try to learn japanese would be to queue into respective cs servers and start annoying the hell out of them until the game ends (this was legitimately my motivation to start learning russian)
Yes, they are: pure hiragana, compound hiragana and katakana. With this you can make any word then it is compressed with the help of kanjis. Haha really, to annoy? That is a valid motivation haha, but, what really matters is the knowledge you acquire, i think.


Corne2Plum3 wrote:

I'm already having some struggles with English, so with japanese I don't think I'm even able to do that. And also, why I would learn this language in particular?
Hi, english is taught here from kindertgarden to college (4-21 years old) ,so ,i do not see it that much hard, in fact i see your native language more difficult, and, it is said that our languages are connected somehow, the so called romance languages. Yeah you have a point, why would you learn this language in particular? You really don't have to, it is up to your needs tbh. I do like japanese because i love anime.


Patatitta wrote:

look I like anime but i'm not a masochist
Thats a good point, really, a good one.


- Marco - wrote:

i wish so i can marry her in Japan
I wish you the best of luck.


B0ii wrote:

I had tried learning japanese myself in the past, but once I learned about how friggin difficult it is I gave up :/

but I do know hiragana and katakana
I learned in college to see difficult things as a challenge and to appreciate the process in learning something diffucult. Just don't be discouraged by hard things.Oh hey you have learned the basics of japanese, maybe you are ready to learn kanji. Gambare-


keremaru wrote:


今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
WOAH! so pink, so stylish, aesthetic if i may say.


Jangsoodlor wrote:

I know how to read a fair bit of hiragana, and a few Kanji (as I used to took Chinese back in middle school)
WAOS! chinese! That's cool tho. Somehow they are connected by kanji, as they have the same meaning in japanese and chinese.


Scyla wrote:

No,I might be really deep into Japanese culture but I can't see any benefit of studying Japanese for myself. For now I'm just fine with subtitles

I know grass/kusa tho
Yes i see your point haha. Subtitles are good for learning to read faster btw.

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
keremaru

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

keremaru wrote:


今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
H-HENTAIGANA? >///<
WHATJ
MistressRemilia
I minored in it at university (they didn't offer it as a major where I went), and thus studied it for about 3.5 years, but I'm somewhat rusty these days since I don't use it much.
Topic Starter
Hachiman Ryouta

MistressRemilia wrote:

I minored in it at university (they didn't offer it as a major where I went), and thus studied it for about 3.5 years, but I'm somewhat rusty these days since I don't use it much.
I see, wow! Almost 4 years. that is so cool! And how was your peak level? Did you watch anime without subtittles at your peak?
Topic Starter
Hachiman Ryouta


I am studying rn btw
MistressRemilia

Hachiman Ryouta wrote:

MistressRemilia wrote:

I minored in it at university (they didn't offer it as a major where I went), and thus studied it for about 3.5 years, but I'm somewhat rusty these days since I don't use it much.
I see, wow! Almost 4 years. that is so cool! And how was your peak level? Did you watch anime without subtittles at your peak?
I never knew what my actual proficiency level was, but I was able to live there for a while without much issue, and I was able to read some manga without consulting a kanji dictionary too often. Anime I can still kinda halfway watch without subtitles, but it heavily depends on the anime and the character. Just don't ask me to read it, my kanji knowledge has gone to shit.
MrMcMikey22
I can gibberish japanese! .w.
Manishh
how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
Nuuskamuikkunen

Manishh wrote:

how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
That's the fun part. I don't.
Manishh

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Manishh wrote:

how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
That's the fun part. I don't.
Very helpful thanks
Nuuskamuikkunen

Manishh wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Manishh wrote:

how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
That's the fun part. I don't.
Very helpful thanks
Unironically I find that way of learning Kanji too tedious. Do NOT learn by strokes, learn by radicals.
ALL Kanji have common elements that are easy to recognize if you give it enough time and you understand how Kanji work, like:
泳ぐ (Oyogu - Swim) 湯 (Yu - Hot Water) 湖 (Mizuumi - Lake) and 海 (Umi - Lake)

Do you notice something in common?
Yes, they're all words related with water, and all of them have this radical on the left

This radical usually indicates that the Kanji is related to water.

I have an article that expands on how to use radicals. It will save you LOTS of time.

https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/kanji-radicals-mnemonic-method/
Topic Starter
Hachiman Ryouta

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

I can gibberish japanese! .w.
Me too haha.


Manishh wrote:

how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
I am not at this level yet, I am starting to learn katakana at the moment. But yeah I will use Anki to learn kanji.
Manishh
I will be learning Kanji using mnemonics and the kanji's will be based on Kanken and Jlpt levels. So, I was wondering, if you guys would be interested in me posting 5-10kanji everyday with their meaning and mnemonics.
ClevelandsMyBro


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Scyla
その男は同性愛者です 女性は多いのに、なぜ彼氏がゲイなのでしょうか? そう、私の夫は同性愛者です、同性愛者ではありません、私の夫、あなたはもうそれを尊重できません。私はバイセクシャルで、彼女はゲイです。私のボーイフレンドがゲイであるというだけではなく、私はそれを本物の女性と同じように考えており、ゲイの男性とデートすることに何の問題もありません。ゲイの友達がいると彼らは「イエス」と言います ただ騙して騙すだけだけど、私は違うよ 私はパートナーを、ありのままで愛している 私は彼女を愛している、なぜなら彼女は私がこの世界で一人ではないと感じてくれている人だから。愛には性別はありません。たとえ彼女が同性愛者であっても、私は私のジョワを愛しています。彼女は単なる同性愛者ではありません。なぜなら、私にとって彼女は私のプリンセスである女性だからです。判断してください、あなたが何と言おうと気にしません‍♀️♂️ 🌈🌈
keremaru

Scyla wrote:

その男は同性愛者です 女性は多いのに、なぜ彼氏がゲイなのでしょうか? そう、私の夫は同性愛者です、同性愛者ではありません、私の夫、あなたはもうそれを尊重できません。私はバイセクシャルで、彼女はゲイです。私のボーイフレンドがゲイであるというだけではなく、私はそれを本物の女性と同じように考えており、ゲイの男性とデートすることに何の問題もありません。ゲイの友達がいると彼らは「イエス」と言います ただ騙して騙すだけだけど、私は違うよ 私はパートナーを、ありのままで愛している 私は彼女を愛している、なぜなら彼女は私がこの世界で一人ではないと感じてくれている人だから。愛には性別はありません。たとえ彼女が同性愛者であっても、私は私のジョワを愛しています。彼女は単なる同性愛者ではありません。なぜなら、私にとって彼女は私のプリンセスである女性だからです。判断してください、あなたが何と言おうと気にしません‍♀️♂️ 🌈🌈
同性愛にしておめでとうございますぜ
Nuuskamuikkunen
これからこのスレッドはホモになった。
Cerno

Manishh wrote:

how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
easy, be a fellow chink. u automatically gain the overpowered perk of easy understanding of Kanji
Nuuskamuikkunen

Cerno wrote:

Manishh wrote:

how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
easy, be a fellow chink. u automatically gain the overpowered perk of easy understanding of Kanji
ええ? でもまだ大きなちんぽを持ちたいのに。
keremaru

なんだお前らは話せてであるか


Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

これからこのスレッドはホモになった。
ではない
Nuuskamuikkunen

keremaru wrote:


なんだお前らは話せてであるか


Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

これからこのスレッドはホモになった。
ではない
えっ?ホモじゃなかったっけ?
Topic Starter
Hachiman Ryouta

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:



动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门




Scyla wrote:

その男は同性愛者です 女性は多いのに、なぜ彼氏がゲイなのでしょうか? そう、私の夫は同性愛者です、同性愛者ではありません、私の夫、あなたはもうそれを尊重できません。私はバイセクシャルで、彼女はゲイです。私のボーイフレンドがゲイであるというだけではなく、私はそれを本物の女性と同じように考えており、ゲイの男性とデートすることに何の問題もありません。ゲイの友達がいると彼らは「イエス」と言います ただ騙して騙すだけだけど、私は違うよ 私はパートナーを、ありのままで愛している 私は彼女を愛している、なぜなら彼女は私がこの世界で一人ではないと感じてくれている人だから。愛には性別はありません。たとえ彼女が同性愛者であっても、私は私のジョワを愛しています。彼女は単なる同性愛者ではありません。なぜなら、私にとって彼女は私のプリンセスである女性だからです。判断してください、あなたが何と言おうと気にしません‍♀️♂️ 🌈🌈

I do not understand
keremaru

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

keremaru wrote:


なんだお前らは話せてであるか


Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

これからこのスレッドはホモになった。
ではない
えっ?ホモじゃなかったっけ?
そうぜ、同性愛者ではないぜ。
lostsilver

Hachiman Ryouta wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:



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Scyla wrote:

その男は同性愛者です 女性は多いのに、なぜ彼氏がゲイなのでしょうか? そう、私の夫は同性愛者です、同性愛者ではありません、私の夫、あなたはもうそれを尊重できません。私はバイセクシャルで、彼女はゲイです。私のボーイフレンドがゲイであるというだけではなく、私はそれを本物の女性と同じように考えており、ゲイの男性とデートすることに何の問題もありません。ゲイの友達がいると彼らは「イエス」と言います ただ騙して騙すだけだけど、私は違うよ 私はパートナーを、ありのままで愛している 私は彼女を愛している、なぜなら彼女は私がこの世界で一人ではないと感じてくれている人だから。愛には性別はありません。たとえ彼女が同性愛者であっても、私は私のジョワを愛しています。彼女は単なる同性愛者ではありません。なぜなら、私にとって彼女は私のプリンセスである女性だからです。判断してください、あなたが何と言おうと気にしません‍♀️♂️ 🌈🌈


I do not understand
same dude, same
Nuuskamuikkunen

keremaru wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

keremaru wrote:


なんだお前らは話せてであるか


Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

これからこのスレッドはホモになった。
ではない
えっ?ホモじゃなかったっけ?
そうぜ、同性愛者ではないぜ。
でも僕が!
Cerno

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Cerno wrote:

Manishh wrote:

how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
easy, be a fellow chink. u automatically gain the overpowered perk of easy understanding of Kanji
ええ? でもまだ大きなちんぽを持ちたいのに。
hmmmm :thonk:
keremaru

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

keremaru wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

keremaru wrote:


なんだお前らは話せてであるか


Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

これからこのスレッドはホモになった。
ではない
えっ?ホモじゃなかったっけ?
そうぜ、同性愛者ではないぜ。
でも僕が!
お前にはそうして、俺はないぜ
Nuuskamuikkunen

keremaru wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

keremaru wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

keremaru wrote:


なんだお前らは話せてであるか


Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

これからこのスレッドはホモになった。
ではない
えっ?ホモじゃなかったっけ?
そうぜ、同性愛者ではないぜ。
でも僕が!
お前にはそうして、俺はないぜ
でもあなたのことを話せなかったぞ。このスレッドよ!
MangaGrumpy
I would talk about the Japanese 31 Minutos episode, but it is pretty racist
keremaru

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

keremaru wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

keremaru wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

keremaru wrote:


なんだお前らは話せてであるか


Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

これからこのスレッドはホモになった。
ではない
えっ?ホモじゃなかったっけ?
そうぜ、同性愛者ではないぜ。
でも僕が!
お前にはそうして、俺はないぜ
でもあなたのことを話せなかったぞ。このスレッドよ!
嗚呼、分かるぞ。わるいぜ
Topic Starter
Hachiman Ryouta
My study method:

I am watching a series of lessons of basic Japanese based on the book: Minna no nihongo. The teacher has offered some documents to study along the lessons, as well as Homework, and a Discord Server to answer Questions. He has shared a web site for Flashcards of Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji, and, an online dictionary. I do like this lessons but also explore other channels for Grammar and vocabulary.

First i do the flashcard training of the day, Then i spend like an hour watching a lesson and doing my notes in the windows notepad. At the end i watch a grammar video. In the weekends i watch anime and practice hearing making notes of the words i find useful, being selective with vocabulary is key to not burnout your brain haha.

I am defynig my method and it is constantly changing acording to what i investigate and learn.
Manishh
Be aware of Burn out, if you spend a lot of hours just like a burst of energy, you might get burn out fast. Other than that If you get a good amount of vocabulary, I suggest watching Teasing master takagi-san, its quite easy to immerse in it for Japanese. https://animelon.com is a good website for immersing in anime to learn japanese, it provide a lot of subtitle
Topic Starter
Hachiman Ryouta

Manishh wrote:

Be aware of Burn out, if you spend a lot of hours just like a burst of energy, you might get burn out fast. Other than that If you get a good amount of vocabulary, I suggest watching Teasing master takagi-san, its quite easy to immerse in it for Japanese. https://animelon.com is a good website for immersing in anime to learn japanese, it provide a lot of subtitle
ありがとうございました。 Manishhさん
keremaru
ngl
after learning grammar and sentence structure i just started listening to jp songs i found on osu on spotify
Manishh
whats the update
Topic Starter
Hachiman Ryouta

Manishh wrote:

whats the update
Same method, i just added hiragana and katakana writing (on a paper) on weekends.

I am studying rn.



A AAAAA

keremaru

Hachiman Ryouta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

whats the update
Same method, i just added hiragana and katakana writing (on a paper) on weekends.

I am studying rn.



A AAAAA

holy shit ur hiragana handwriting is really clean for a starting

also i don't know español
but あなた is moreso used for people you're really, REALLY close to (like girlfriend/boyfriend, husband/wife, mostly used for people you're in a relationship with)

most people just stick to names
みきさんはどこへいきましたか
"where did miki-san go?"
since it doesn't confuse the subject for anyone else, but it also works for if the subject is in the conversation

an alternative identifier like
きみ
きみのすきなぶれんどのこーひーはなんですか
"what's your favorite blend of coffee?"
or おまえ
これがおまえのせいでしょうか
"this is your fault, isn't it?"
which is generally a ruder identifier and only mainly used either by people who don't really care, or for people you don't know very well

or simply don't use anything at all
つぎのきょうしつはどこかな
"i wonder where our next class is"
さんかいでしょ
"isn't it on the third floor"
まじかよ
"are you serious?"
the last one relies heavily on context, but works wonders for the flow of a conversation
tldr あなた is for people really really close to you
Topic Starter
Hachiman Ryouta

keremaru wrote:

Hachiman Ryouta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

whats the update
Same method, i just added hiragana and katakana writing (on a paper) on weekends.

I am studying rn.



A AAAAA

holy shit ur hiragana handwriting is really clean for a starting

also i don't know español
but あなた is moreso used for people you're really, REALLY close to (like girlfriend/boyfriend, husband/wife, mostly used for people you're in a relationship with)

most people just stick to names
みきさんはどこへいきましたか
"where did miki-san go?"
since it doesn't confuse the subject for anyone else, but it also works for if the subject is in the conversation

an alternative identifier like
きみ
きみのすきなぶれんどのこーひーはなんですか
"what's your favorite blend of coffee?"
or おまえ
これがおまえのせいでしょうか
"this is your fault, isn't it?"
which is generally a ruder identifier and only mainly used either by people who don't really care, or for people you don't know very well

or simply don't use anything at all
つぎのきょうしつはどこかな
"i wonder where our next class is"
さんかいでしょ
"isn't it on the third floor"
まじかよ
"are you serious?"
the last one relies heavily on context, but works wonders for the flow of a conversation
tldr あなた is for people really really close to you
Thanks for the feedback keremaru! :)
Topic Starter
Hachiman Ryouta

Hachiman Ryouta wrote:

My study method:

I am watching a Youtube video series of lessons on basic Japanese based on the book: Minna no nihongo. The teacher has offered some documents to study along with the lessons, as well as Homework, and a Discord Server to answer questions. He has shared a web site for Flashcards of Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji, and, an online dictionary. I do like this lessons but also explore other channels for Grammar and vocabulary.

First, I do the flashcard training of the day, Then I spend, like... an hour watching a lesson and doing my notes in the windows notepad. At the end I watch a grammar video. In the weekends I watch anime and practice hearing making notes of the words I find useful, being selective with vocabulary is key to not burnout your brain.

I am defynig my method and it is constantly changing acording to what I investigate and learn.
I have defined and condensed my studies of japanese into an hour a day like this:

  1. I use one hour of my day for studying. I divide it into 2 pieces of 28 minutes studying and 2 for a break using the pomodoro[1] method (a type of time management) in this page: https://pomofocus.io/app . You can adjust this as a ratio beetween being focused/not being focused, keep in mind that at first you will not be able to focus in large periods, be honest and adjust it correctly for maximum efficency in the learning process.
  2. I open my anime stream page, then I play an anime I've watched before, and, leave it in the background and start running the pomodoro timer for the first period of time. This hearing technique is according to the AJATT method [2]. Then I practice hiragana in my site of japanese flashcards: http://www.studykanji.net/kanjiquiz/chrome as in the Flashcards figure:

    Flashcards

    Figure 1: Japanese kanji flashcard site
  3. After the flashcard practice, I practice my writing according to the figure 1 on the first post of this thread. Writing 5 hiraganas per day, starting form right to left and downwards as in the reading of a manga. The first period of the pomodoro is almost over.

    Writing

    Figure 2: Japanese writing practice
  4. Then I study the book Minna no nihongo according to a Chilean teacher named Twin-sensei and his youtube lessons using Windows notepad to type the important things and using the Microsoft Japanese IME for getting used to type Japanese on keyboard, as they will do in the japanese keyboard layout. Usually here the first period of the pomodoro ends and I start the second. I watch the lesson as long as the 2nd. pomodoro leaves me. At the end of the last period, if I haven't finished the lesson, I start next day from there, and if I finish the lesson and there's homework I leave it for the next day, so instead of watching the next lesson I do the homework.

    Japanese keyboard layout

    Figure 3: Japanese keyboard layout


    For the homework I print the pages used in the lesson and write on them the answers as shown next:


    Online lessons homework

    Figure 4: Minna no nihongo homework

    Here we are still using Roumaji until lesson 5.
This is for the weekdays. For the weekends I use an augmented version adding 2 more pomodoros, I haven't defined them propperly, but I think one is for watching an entire anime cap without subtitles and the other for grammar and anki flashcard editing. I will add Anki in a near future to the weekday studying. I am trying to study hearing/speaking, writing/reading, vocabulary/grammar every day with my study method.

What do you think?

UPDATE 08/25/2024

Kanji

For kanji I used flashcards and after a few months I started to write them digitally with a tablet I bought online. At first It was kind of easy to manage 20 cards a day, but overtime it was overwhelming to review 200 cards a day, so I changed the limit to 100 cards per day a month ago. So curently I am doing a quick review of 100 cards a day for kanji. I have 3 japanese decks: Kanji, N5 grammar, and last but not least, my personnal japanese deck where I bump every word or concept I find useful.

What was really useful was the N5 game gengo's Grammar deck. It is a high quality input resource.

OUTPUT TIME!!!

I started to get interested in talking with natives, not long ago. I am in a DC Japanese Language server and, I started to join voice chats just for comprehensible imput, but then I was mentioned haha, I did not now what to do so I replied with the usual Konnichiha, Then mute myself again, but I was really good at listening and started to unmute and gibberish some book phrases from minna no nihongo and I was really frustated back then... I was able to understand but couldn't talk. Nowadays I can do normal conversations in the beginner japanese VC. So I think that helped me to develop my japanese a lot!!

Typing

Currently my worst skill is typing in japanese lol, I started to train typing a few days ago and I am doing bad, 2WPM -_-, but I have encountered a site for practice this skill, the site name is Monkeytype, someone has recomended it to my at the JP server.

TEST MYSELF
I think that the N5 test was so claryfing for me, I tought that I would fail for sure, I stopped my minna no nihongo lessons because I wanted to re-do all the past lessons in the correct way, it was answered in romanji, so I studied a lot the alphabets or syllabaries to answer the right way! But back to the test result I have to say that my hearing skills are so nice!! maybe that has helped me so much!!

Updating the method or learning system

My sytem was not updated so often, I mean I was following almost the same steps I stated before until I decided to break It this month with the N5 test. So I am currently thinking how to make It better, and my English has been improving as well. So I think I am going to aim for at least an 80/100 note in the N5 and then start to study N4 grammar.

0 to N5 in 6 months!! I think I did well

UPDATE: 10/01/2024



References:
[1] Wikipedia. (2024, 03). Pomodoro Technique[Online]. Available: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique

[2] Tatsumoto. (2022, 10). What's AJATT?[Online] Available: https://tatsumoto-ren.github.io/blog/whats-ajatt.html#:~:text=AJATT%20stands%20for%20All%20Japanese%20All%20The%20Time
Manishh
bump. update
Topic Starter
Hachiman Ryouta

Manishh wrote:

bump. update
Hi. I am changing my method to prepare myself to kanji and whole phrases, with Anki's help, and vocab training as well.
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