PromiscuousDuck wrote:

It makes it almost impossible to use with tablets, like it makes the game fullscreen meaning you have to move more making it almost impossible to play.

Is there anyway around this?

peppy wrote:

The cursor IS confined to the window. If it isn't, report this as a bug, because it is incorrect. Tablet works fine at any sensitivity for me (osu!tablet).

peppy wrote:

The cursor IS confined to the window. If it isn't, report this as a bug, because it is incorrect. Tablet works fine at any sensitivity for me (osu!tablet).

Spyrunite wrote:

peppy wrote:

The cursor IS confined to the window. If it isn't, report this as a bug, because it is incorrect. Tablet works fine at any sensitivity for me (osu!tablet).

I strongly disagree with this change. I play in windowed because I want to be able to go to other windows outside of my osu! window. I can't do that without switching to my mouse when there should be no reason for me not to be able to just tap it with my tablet.

I also got used to the area of the tablet with osu! in windowed, now that it treats osu! as the full area it is completely different. Do the huion drivers allow for you to change the area or is there just no way to change it back to the area I was used to as of now?

Edit: I messed around with changing the tablet speed a bit, and it kinda help definitely does not fix the problem. The area around the outside of the osu window isn't clickable because the cursor goes right back onto osu, completely skipping that area. It also just doesn't go up in fine enough increments for my liking. Really I'd rather just have a way to turn off Raw Imput. Not giving us the option to turn it off is just silly.

trfs wrote:

Works great! Only issue I have is that it's impossible to log in or out while it's enabled, the cursor just flies around everywhere.

PromiscuousDuck wrote:

It makes it almost impossible to use with tablets, like it makes the game fullscreen meaning you have to move more making it almost impossible to play.

Is there anyway around this?

Increase active area in the driver I guess? The in-game sensitivity option works but the cursor isn't confined in the window properly, which is frustrating if you tap accidentally and it loses focus.

Spyrunite wrote:

peppy wrote:

The cursor IS confined to the window. If it isn't, report this as a bug, because it is incorrect. Tablet works fine at any sensitivity for me (osu!tablet).

I strongly disagree with this change. I play in windowed because I want to be able to go to other windows outside of my osu! window. I can't do that without switching to my mouse when there should be no reason for me not to be able to just tap it with my tablet.

I also got used to the area of the tablet with osu! in windowed, now that it treats osu! as the full area it is completely different. Do the huion drivers allow for you to change the area or is there just no way to change it back to the area I was used to as of now?

Edit: I messed around with changing the tablet speed a bit, and it kinda help definitely does not fix the problem. The area around the outside of the osu window isn't clickable because the cursor goes right back onto osu, completely skipping that area. It also just doesn't go up in fine enough increments for my liking. Really I'd rather just have a way to turn off Raw Imput. Not giving us the option to turn it off is just silly.

Spyrunite wrote:

That's exactly the way it was before the update, maybe you didn't install the update?

Edit: Ok, so I thought about this some more. Is the reason that the cursor is locked in the window because otherwise the raw imput wouldn't be happening? If that is the way it works then I understand why it is locked down the way it is, but the above problems still exist.

peppy wrote:

I will likely add a way to disable it for supported devices in the next update. Please wait calmly until then.

Yamadash wrote:

"use unlimited and pay the extra power bill."

I don't really think it makes that much of a difference.

peppy wrote:

Why doesn't it work with Wacom tablets?

Wacom tablets use proprietary drivers, which don't conform to hardware standards. I may look at adding support for them later.

Moodkiller03 wrote:

Please do - this would be awesome, would love to adjust the sensitivity to more than 1.0x through osu!

-Rinku- wrote:

So I was told Windows Aero causes a delay as well and believe it to be true, does this bypass that specific delay as well?

DeltaBurnt wrote:

So I followed the guide to make my mouse input work in osu exactly how it did pre 8.1. But now I'm forced to use raw input to turn up the mouse sensitivity (something that worked perfectly fine before). Having the raw input option selected makes all my mouse movements feel very...dampened. When I turn up the mouse sensitivity with the raw input option it doesn't have the same effect it had before (1.3x used to be the perfect option for me, now I have to go to about 2.5x to get a similar effect), and it has more stutters.

Is there anyway to get the sensitivity to work as it did before the most recent update? I enjoy the raw input option, it's just annoying that I'm forced to use it because osu detects I'm 8.1 and thinks I have a problem I don't actually have.

Mathsma wrote:

Maybe you have you windows mouse settings changed from their defaults (6/11 mouse speed in pointer options). Raw input bypasses windows mouse settings and the game gets it directly from the hardware.

Yamadash wrote:

"use unlimited and pay the extra power bill."

I don't really think it makes that much of a difference.

peppy wrote:

Sorry but I'm not removing the win8.1 check. You can try adjusting your windows sensitivity and sticking it on 1.0x in osu! if you'd like to use the windows setting.

peppy wrote:

Sorry but I'm not removing the win8.1 check. You can try adjusting your windows sensitivity and sticking it on 1.0x in osu! if you'd like to use the windows setting.

Known Windows 8.1 had an issues with a Mouse, Still a fortunate I was unable to raise up from 8 Pro

RemiFlan wrote:

peppy wrote:

Sorry but I'm not removing the win8.1 check. You can try adjusting your windows sensitivity and sticking it on 1.0x in osu! if you'd like to use the windows setting.

Kind of sucks, because I've had a harder time playing 1.2x with raw input than 1.2x without it for some reason. Just feels slower to me.

I have win8.1 so I'm forced raw input with 1.2x. Adjusting my sensitivity through control panel doesn't help much either =/

Yamadash wrote:

"use unlimited and pay the extra power bill."
I don't really think it makes that much of a difference.

peppy wrote:

i use a g500 and no it does not have any acceleration at a secnsor level.

peppy wrote:

Raw input allows osu! to read mouse/tablet values directly from the hardware, without any post-processing. As a result, it can bypas windows bugs and acceleration algorithms. It can also allow for tablet sensitivity adjustment without setting a custom tablet area mapping at driver-level.

Why did you even bother adding this? Input was fine already.

It fixes an issue with Windows 8.1 where mouse sensitivities other than 1.0x not working correctly.

Should I use raw input?

Try it and see if you like it. Some users will still prefer leaving it off if they enjoy windows mouse acceleration (known as "Enhance Precision" in newer windows versions).

Why doesn't it work with Wacom tablets?

Wacom tablets use proprietary drivers, which don't conform to hardware standards. I may look at adding support for them later.

My latency is more than 1ms. Add a new fps limiter option to make it 1ms without being unlimited.

No. Latencies for 3-8ms are not perceivable by humans. If you believe you need 1ms then use unlimited and pay the extra power bill.

peppy wrote:

I just tested on my mouse pad using raw input around 20 times with different velocity movements and could not produce any kind of acceleration effects.

opnmind wrote:

Well I don't know about w8.1 (still using XP in my toaster) but it felt really strange, more inaccurate, I used to use a mouse sensitivity of 4.0, I tried adjusting it but it still felt kinda off, so I deactivate the 'enhance pointer precision' on the windows control panel, and activate the Raw Input in the game, and voila, just as it was... It gave me quite a headache though...

marshallracer wrote:

I don't know, I'm somewhat happy about Raw Input.
Despite fixing a bug with my tablet where I could only access an area on my screen the size of the osu! window (1024x768 from top left with 1280x1024 as desktop resolution, so if the window was in the middle about 1/4 or so of it weren't accessible), movement now feels more direct and the cursor isn't drifting away anymore.

Tablet is a Slimline Design Tablet (TB-5300) used under Windows 7.

SanicHegehog wrote:

peppy wrote:

I just tested on my mouse pad using raw input around 20 times with different velocity movements and could not produce any kind of acceleration effects.

Do you experience acceleration outside of osu?

If possible, could you explain how acceleration is removed with raw input enabled? I know it's supposed to allow reading mouse values directly from the hardware, but as the sensor itself is a piece of hardware, I'm rather confused as to how acceleration is ignored, as small as it may be on certain mice.