We are in 2024 which means that the oldest Gen Alpha people are 14 years old (those born between 2010 and now)

I have a strong feeling that Gen Alpha is a more exaggerated version of Gen Z since children tend to be more stressed, anxious and depressed but also adventurous, energetic and more familiar with the digital world. Since they grew while the Covid 19 was going on, it may have affected the development of this new generation that will change the world in the next decade

But I also feel like all these apps like Tiktok or Chatbots affect them negatively. Some of them are even doing things that adults do that they shouldn't like smoking or watching obscene materials, which is kind of scary ngl...

the younger gen alphas (i'd say 2015-2024) are fucked for their child years. hopefully most of them grow up to be normal people, which does have a high chance of happening, but it's not guaranteed. as for the older gen alphas (2010-2015), i reckon that they should be fine, with the only problem being tiktok screwing over their attention span, and chatbots screwing up their ability to communicate in real world situations. but maybe if the parent puts a time limit on both tiktok and chatbots an older gen alpha person should grow up to be normal people.

as for the main question you asked, i can only say that we don't know for now. wait for the 2010 babies to hit 18, then we can judge wether gen alphas were worse than gen Zs. for sure gen alpha childhood is worse than gen z childhood, but again, we have to wait for 2010 babies to turn 18, then we will be able to judge.

i'm not going to complain about children man

Patatitta wrote:

i'm not going to complain about children man

and what do you think of this?

Anaxii wrote:

But I also feel like all these apps like Tiktok or Chatbots affect them negatively. Some of them are even doing things that adults do that they shouldn't like smoking or watching obscene materials, which is kind of scary ngl...

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

i'm not going to complain about children man

and what do you think of this?

Anaxii wrote:

But I also feel like all these apps like Tiktok or Chatbots affect them negatively. Some of them are even doing things that adults do that they shouldn't like smoking or watching obscene materials, which is kind of scary ngl...

I disagree with the premise of the question on itself, gen alpha on itself is not bad, if anything, the fault should lay on the adults for raising the kids that way

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

i'm not going to complain about children man

and what do you think of this?

Anaxii wrote:

But I also feel like all these apps like Tiktok or Chatbots affect them negatively. Some of them are even doing things that adults do that they shouldn't like smoking or watching obscene materials, which is kind of scary ngl...

I disagree with the premise of the question on itself, gen alpha on itself is not bad, if anything, the fault should lay on the adults for raising the kids that way

it's not the adults' fault if the children don't listen to their parents and prefer listening to some andrew tate or things like that

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

i'm not going to complain about children man

and what do you think of this?

Anaxii wrote:

But I also feel like all these apps like Tiktok or Chatbots affect them negatively. Some of them are even doing things that adults do that they shouldn't like smoking or watching obscene materials, which is kind of scary ngl...

I disagree with the premise of the question on itself, gen alpha on itself is not bad, if anything, the fault should lay on the adults for raising the kids that way

it's not the adults' fault if the children don't listen to their parents and prefer listening to some andrew tate or things like that

adults are largelly responsable of what their 8yo kid does. If their brain gets rotten because of tiktok, it's the parents fault for showing them tiktok

Gen Alpha are yet to develop into adulthood. Which I personally believe, it's giving an incomplete perspective their well-beings are. I believe ever other generation cohort (in the USA because this thing only really applies to the American generations) have their own challenge for it's time. Greatest Generation for great depression and ww2, Gen Y for 9/11 and 2008 crisis, Gen Z and Alpha for Covid-19.

Covid-19 in my opinion is really damaging for kids because imagine trapped only in your own house for 2 to 3 years with little simulation and activities to do from the outside. Education are be damned because all you do is staring at screen for hours everyday. PE, Science Experiment, Physical art activities, anything remotely authentic education can be flushed into the toilet. Socialisation? hah. Not to mention that if you're poor and your parents can't afford time to interact with you in any sort of way. It's to be expected from a common sense, you can see these unfortunate generations are going to be growing up, messed up being mentally unwell.

Blaming thing entirely for one side is unhelpful because it's just adding fuel to the flame. What should we done is to educate ourself about the interneta and hopefully, we can do something to avert the situation. Perhaps talk to your brother/sister, or your family about it. It's an essential step one from my view

I mean, heck, a lot of us gen z ers watched some shitty minecraft monster school videos when we were like 8, so I don't think the skibidi trend is THAT bad as some like to call it

As long as they experience the process of growing the f up and we don't destroy humanity in the process, everything should be fine

Dementedjet wrote:

I mean, heck, a lot of us gen z ers watched some shitty minecraft monster school videos when we were like 8, so I don't think the skibidi trend is THAT bad as some like to call it

As long as they experience the process of growing the f up and we don't destroy humanity in the process, everything should be fine

Ok, but, Some of us Watching some Gems like DanTdm, Pewds, Jacksepticeye, Vanoss, etc

Also, The Modern slangs, I remember the quote Get rekt, i heard of that sometimes in mid 2010s
Nowadays Theres many slangs, Thx To Kai cenat and DafuqBoom like, Rizz, Skibidi toilet, Gyat, etc

Also, im that very young to know that

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

i'm not going to complain about children man

and what do you think of this?

Anaxii wrote:

But I also feel like all these apps like Tiktok or Chatbots affect them negatively. Some of them are even doing things that adults do that they shouldn't like smoking or watching obscene materials, which is kind of scary ngl...

I disagree with the premise of the question on itself, gen alpha on itself is not bad, if anything, the fault should lay on the adults for raising the kids that way

it's not the adults' fault if the children don't listen to their parents and prefer listening to some andrew tate or things like that

adults are largelly responsable of what their 8yo kid does. If their brain gets rotten because of tiktok, it's the parents fault for showing them tiktok

it would be weird to see a parent showing their child how to use tiktok and how to rot your brain lol...

Dementedjet wrote:

I mean, heck, a lot of us gen z ers watched some shitty minecraft monster school videos when we were like 8, so I don't think the skibidi trend is THAT bad as some like to call it

As long as they experience the process of growing the f up and we don't destroy humanity in the process, everything should be fine

yeah exactly

growing up = being mature!! (even though it doesn't apply to everyone)

Dementedjet wrote:

I mean, heck, a lot of us gen z ers watched some shitty minecraft monster school videos when we were like 8, so I don't think the skibidi trend is THAT bad as some like to call it

As long as they experience the process of growing the f up and we don't destroy humanity in the process, everything should be fine

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

Dementedjet wrote:

I mean, heck, a lot of us gen z ers watched some shitty minecraft monster school videos when we were like 8, so I don't think the skibidi trend is THAT bad as some like to call it

As long as they experience the process of growing the f up and we don't destroy humanity in the process, everything should be fine

Ok, but, Some of us Watching some Gems like DanTdm, Pewds, Jacksepticeye, Vanoss, etc

Also, The Modern slangs, I remember the quote Get rekt, i heard of that sometimes in mid 2010s
Nowadays Theres many slangs, Thx To Kai cenat and DafuqBoom like, Rizz, Skibidi toilet, Gyat, etc

Also, im that very young to know that

Your choice of entertainment is only limited to yourself. You can judge others all you want but don't be suprised later that other generation also ridicule you for the same reason. It's a never-ending loop of 'Back in my days' type of thing.

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

Dementedjet wrote:

I mean, heck, a lot of us gen z ers watched some shitty minecraft monster school videos when we were like 8, so I don't think the skibidi trend is THAT bad as some like to call it

As long as they experience the process of growing the f up and we don't destroy humanity in the process, everything should be fine

Ok, but, Some of us Watching some Gems like DanTdm, Pewds, Jacksepticeye, Vanoss, etc

Also, The Modern slangs, I remember the quote Get rekt, i heard of that sometimes in mid 2010s
Nowadays Theres many slangs, Thx To Kai cenat and DafuqBoom like, Rizz, Skibidi toilet, Gyat, etc

Also, im that very young to know that

"Ok, but, Some of us Watching some Gems like DanTdm"

yeah gameplay channels where not the best either. It's true that nowadays stuff is more optimized to catch attention and whatever, but we should not put danTdm as a golden example of a good youtube channel

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

i'm not going to complain about children man

and what do you think of this?

Anaxii wrote:

But I also feel like all these apps like Tiktok or Chatbots affect them negatively. Some of them are even doing things that adults do that they shouldn't like smoking or watching obscene materials, which is kind of scary ngl...

I disagree with the premise of the question on itself, gen alpha on itself is not bad, if anything, the fault should lay on the adults for raising the kids that way

it's not the adults' fault if the children don't listen to their parents and prefer listening to some andrew tate or things like that

adults are largelly responsable of what their 8yo kid does. If their brain gets rotten because of tiktok, it's the parents fault for showing them tiktok

it would be weird to see a parent showing their child how to use tiktok and how to rot your brain lol...

If a kid watches tiktok, that is because the parent either doesn't care or wants or the kid to do so. If they don't, that is also their parents decision, in any case, the things you point out like tiktok ruining their brains, is only if their parents allow them to happen, which is why I say, gen alpha are children, in any case, we should complain about their parents

as long as they mewing rizz ohio gwatt skibidi bop bottom w fr ong no cap, ... there is no hope.

Jokes aside, I don't blame them - and they're still children. Just let them be. I am more worried for next generations not being able to focus while most of them already grow up with children's series that include flashy and bright colors only to catch interest, also short clips usually. Creators of these confirmed to have intentions to keep them watching as long as possible and even tested it on them (if they looked away, it will get noted and corrected, causing huge addiction to media consumption in early ages. So, tiktok basically exists for them already. All I'm saying: this is going to be interesting...

They're still kids, like, the oldest one of them is like, 14? Naturally kids are somewhat stupid.

Anaxii wrote:

it's not the adults' fault if the children don't listen to their parents and prefer listening to some andrew tate or things like that

It is though. Lack of parental supervision and most importantly, the failure to establish themselves as figures of authority is not precisely the kid's fault. The rhetoric of "kids nowadays are rebels" has been there since millenia.

Now, of course, each generation has their challenges and handicaps while being raised, and I won't deny that parents exposing their children to the internet at a VERY early age is indeed a problem, but either way, it's mostly on the parental resposibility.

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

i'm not going to complain about children man

and what do you think of this?

Anaxii wrote:

But I also feel like all these apps like Tiktok or Chatbots affect them negatively. Some of them are even doing things that adults do that they shouldn't like smoking or watching obscene materials, which is kind of scary ngl...

I disagree with the premise of the question on itself, gen alpha on itself is not bad, if anything, the fault should lay on the adults for raising the kids that way

it's not the adults' fault if the children don't listen to their parents and prefer listening to some andrew tate or things like that

adults are largelly responsable of what their 8yo kid does. If their brain gets rotten because of tiktok, it's the parents fault for showing them tiktok

it would be weird to see a parent showing their child how to use tiktok and how to rot your brain lol...

If a kid watches tiktok, that is because the parent either doesn't care or wants or the kid to do so. If they don't, that is also their parents decision, in any case, the things you point out like tiktok ruining their brains, is only if their parents allow them to happen, which is why I say, gen alpha are children, in any case, we should complain about their parents

Adding to this, parents CAN limit their children usage of technology and blocking them from accessing certain apps or webpages, like, there are parental control tools which can be used for the children's safety. What we need to do is a better education for the parents to know how to keep their children safe on the web, as it is a very dangerous place for them to be unsupervised, moreso now.

time will tell

Simon12 wrote:

time will tell

i never trust the time

i use skibidi rizz on livvy dunne in ohio

In terms of the whole TikTok and chatbots thing, I totally agree that they are dangerous as hell. I know people very close to me who literally cannot watch movies because TikTok has degraded their attention span, which I think is fucked up. Also, some people in my Adv Higher English class cant sit through a 1hr 40min class with a reasonably chill teacher and nice class without getting distracted and complaining about having to analyse like 2 poems a day as if thats bad. It all comes down to attention span degradation, and its terrifying that if we are Gen-Z (most of my year is '06-'07, I'm early '07) then what is it like for the kids in First and Second year while my year is like this in our last, Sixth year of high school. Some people I know in the years below and from just helping at school events I can see there is a larger distaste in the idea of school and education - more troublemakers, more people skipping school often, etc. It seems to be those in late primary school transitioning to high school, roughly P6-S2 have had it the roughest, having hard time being that their first years of high school were primarily in home-learning. I think it's an interesting topic to look at because Covid, TikTok, and things like ChatGPT abuse are rampant factors in play, and that's just looking at the effect on their education. By ChatGPT abuse I mean using it to write entire things for a class. While I've used it here and there for advice, word choice, structure, and such, I have never fully written something using the software while I know people who will just go "write me a 2000 word 4 paragraph essay about ----" and hand it in. They have scanners to try and detect it now but ChatGPT has gotten so good at writing it's own original stuff that its hard to not believe it or catch it when it comes up.

Basically, kids are doomed if nothing happens - their attention span is going to turn into absolutely fuck all, and they're gonna drop out as soon as they can or they're gonna spend 2 mins having a website write important, SQA marked papers for them because why would they put effort into something a bot can do for them.

I'd be happy to answer any questions about being in school in the current situation, ask away if you have any.

(Edit: To justify, I don't use TikTok, and my attention span seemed fine, so I asked people who do use if they feel that is what diminished their attention span. Some were outright honest and said it likely was, but that they will continue using it, while some said it was not a factor even though they admitted the attention span decrease spiked around the time they began using TikTok.)

I'm telling you, the "older gen alphas" are NOT FINE. They're fucking weird.

Ymir wrote:

I'm telling you, the "older gen alphas" are NOT FINE. They're fucking weird.

100% true. From my experience they can sometimes be the worst of their generation, having qualities of Gen-Z and Gen-A, which is a bad amalgamation.

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[-Omni-] wrote:

i use skibidi rizz on livvy dunne in ohio

stop this

Dementedjet wrote:

I mean, heck, a lot of us gen z ers watched some shitty minecraft monster school videos when we were like 8, so I don't think the skibidi trend is THAT bad as some like to call it

But I think a lot of stuffs on Youtube kids right now are THAT bad.

Jangsoodlor wrote:

Dementedjet wrote:

I mean, heck, a lot of us gen z ers watched some shitty minecraft monster school videos when we were like 8, so I don't think the skibidi trend is THAT bad as some like to call it

But I think a lot of stuffs on Youtube kids right now are THAT bad.

youtube kids is definitely not a place for toddlers

Billy6411 wrote:

Ymir wrote:

I'm telling you, the "older gen alphas" are NOT FINE. They're fucking weird.

100% true. From my experience they can sometimes be the worst of their generation, having qualities of Gen-Z and Gen-A, which is a bad amalgamation.

can you describe your experience?

*kinda bad opinion warning!!!*

i've thought about this for a pretty long time but honestly i can't think of any good way to save gen alpha. they will always be tiktok users, and chatbot users, and have 5-second attention spans, and have decreased social interaction... this is the lifestyle they chose. if parents and adults try to stop this, children will just view them as obstacles to their desires. i also believe that children are fully responsible for what they do (and not the parent). they are humans and they have the ability to make decisions, and a lot of the time they'll think "why listen to someone who's just trying to stop me from having fun?"

because the media is arguably the most influential figure on younger generations i think putting positive messages there and increasing media regulation (to stop negative messages/misinformation) would have a greater impact on teaching children to make good decisions. if we can satisfy children's needs then perhaps they'll finally get the message. but considering basically every generation has tried to make the next generation behaviourally closer to them, and yet wide generational gaps still exist, i would expect the behaviour of gen-a to continue, and some of the consequences to manifest (whether in a negative way or not), and we'll just have to deal with it

sametdze wrote:

Billy6411 wrote:

Ymir wrote:

I'm telling you, the "older gen alphas" are NOT FINE. They're fucking weird.

100% true. From my experience they can sometimes be the worst of their generation, having qualities of Gen-Z and Gen-A, which is a bad amalgamation.

can you describe your experience?

So basically, the ones bordering on my generation and Gen-A are a strange anomaly in that they sometimes try to have the humour and interests our generation has, whilst doing activities and having the personalities of Gen-A, causing a weird clash literally within themselves. A lot of them are very prone to outburst and just being general dickheads, i'm guessing due to disconnection from society at such a pivotal age of their lives. Also, not being in high school for First Year which would usually allow them to meet their new classmates from other schools has made them cling more to the people the year or years above them that they remember from primary school, especially those with siblings. I know some youngers that should have new friends but just hang around with their brothers and sisters in S5/6 because it was too hard to make friends during and after online learning. Basically, they try to copy how my generation acts and thinks and what we find funny while it doesnt fit their actual personality so it creates these really annoying people. Again, a general disinterest in school is also likely at fault for them being so annoying within the school building as they really just dont want to be there. Considering writing an essay basically about the topic of this thread as a whole cause its just so strange the effect on the younger years, will probably share if I do it.

Billy6411 wrote:

sametdze wrote:

Billy6411 wrote:

Ymir wrote:

I'm telling you, the "older gen alphas" are NOT FINE. They're fucking weird.

100% true. From my experience they can sometimes be the worst of their generation, having qualities of Gen-Z and Gen-A, which is a bad amalgamation.

can you describe your experience?

So basically, the ones bordering on my generation and Gen-A are a strange anomaly in that they sometimes try to have the humour and interests our generation has, whilst doing activities and having the personalities of Gen-A, causing a weird clash literally within themselves. A lot of them are very prone to outburst and just being general dickheads, i'm guessing due to disconnection from society at such a pivotal age of their lives. Also, not being in high school for First Year which would usually allow them to meet their new classmates from other schools has made them cling more to the people the year or years above them, especially those with siblings. I know some youngers that should have new friends but just hang around with their brothers and sisters in S5/6 because it was too hard to make friends during and after online learning. Basically, they try to copy how my generation acts and thinks and what we find funny while it doesnt fit their actual personality so it creates these really annoying people. Again, a general disinterest in school is also likely at fault for them being so annoying within the school building as they really just dont want to be there. Considering writing an essay basically about the topic of this thread as a whole cause its just so strange the effect on the younger years, will probably share if I do it.

i didn't even know that there are Gen Z people who are trying to imitate other generations... it must be so embarrassing to see

I have quite mixed opinions about it. All i can say is that their childhood is like our childhood when we have looked up in the internet. Technically it’s their parents responsibility on what content their watching and gen alpha just stumbled at those stuff. Pretty much in the future they will find those things cringy and we just have to be patient ig lol

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

i'm not going to complain about children man

and what do you think of this?

Anaxii wrote:

But I also feel like all these apps like Tiktok or Chatbots affect them negatively. Some of them are even doing things that adults do that they shouldn't like smoking or watching obscene materials, which is kind of scary ngl...

I disagree with the premise of the question on itself, gen alpha on itself is not bad, if anything, the fault should lay on the adults for raising the kids that way

it's not the adults' fault if the children don't listen to their parents and prefer listening to some andrew tate or things like that

The main reason why a lot of Gen Alpha kids are the way they are is because from a very young age, parents would just lend their child an IPad and set it to YouTube and just call it a day. This is what led to Elsagate back in 2017.

now that I've been thinking for a while. I think it's just because the generation still not grown yet. They're still children, and my only hope is just please don't get infected by woke culture

Rezq Gokou wrote:

now that I've been thinking for a while. I think it's just because the generation still not grown yet. They're still children, and my only hope is just please don't get infected by woke culture

what is woke culture?

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

now that I've been thinking for a while. I think it's just because the generation still not grown yet. They're still children, and my only hope is just please don't get infected by woke culture

what is woke culture?

fighting battles that don't exist

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

now that I've been thinking for a while. I think it's just because the generation still not grown yet. They're still children, and my only hope is just please don't get infected by woke culture

what is woke culture?

brainwashing people to think they are who they want to be instead of being truthful with themselves

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

now that I've been thinking for a while. I think it's just because the generation still not grown yet. They're still children, and my only hope is just please don't get infected by woke culture

what is woke culture?

I'm not entirely sure myself.

I've heard some extreme conservatives call anything that features a person who's not white, straight, or cis woke.

But from what I've seen I think the term means any product that cares more about shoving liberal politics down people's throats than actually being high quality.

woke culture is a term to really disacredit left-wing ideas, it's mostly a strawman used by far-right americans. Stuff like, "they must keep politics out of films!!!" and politics in this case means passing the bechdel test. Please don't fall for that shit

B0ii wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

now that I've been thinking for a while. I think it's just because the generation still not grown yet. They're still children, and my only hope is just please don't get infected by woke culture

what is woke culture?

fighting battles that don't exist

i love doing that lol
/j

Patatitta wrote:

woke culture is a term to really disacredit left-wing ideas, it's mostly a strawman used by far-right americans. Stuff like, "they must keep politics out of films!!!" and politics in this case means passing the bechdel test. Please don't fall for that shit

huh... ok i guess?

Patatitta wrote:

woke culture is a term to really disacredit left-wing ideas, it's mostly a strawman used by far-right americans. Stuff like, "they must keep politics out of films!!!" and politics in this case means passing the bechdel test. Please don't fall for that shit

I wouldn't say that the term woke is only used by the far-right. Yes, there are definitely 40-something year olds out there that cry about a gay character being in their child's cartoon and scream "WOKE!", but there have also been times where companies will sacrifice the quality of their product, sometimes to a large extent, just to be known as based to Twitter users.

As an '02 Zoomer, I can say that, based upon what children are seeing nowadays, they're toast. I had seen a good video called "The Tragedy of Generation Alpha" or something like that on YouTube. They're absolutely doomed based upon the circumstances they've been forced into. Plus, how children's videos are edited to be fast paced and mindless entertainment is complete and utter garbage that content farmers love, how they can completely enamor a child with just editing techniques to addict them. It's sad.

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

woke culture is a term to really disacredit left-wing ideas, it's mostly a strawman used by far-right americans. Stuff like, "they must keep politics out of films!!!" and politics in this case means passing the bechdel test. Please don't fall for that shit

I wouldn't say that the term woke is only used by the far-right. Yes, there are definitely 40-something year olds out there that cry about a gay character being in their child's cartoon and scream "WOKE!", but there have also been times where companies will sacrifice the quality of their product, sometimes to a large extent, just to be known as based to Twitter users.

In the united states even some left-wing ideas would be considered right wing here, so the right wing ideas are basically far right for me. And I assume you're talking about "forced inclusivity" and all that stuff, but honestly, even if you made it "non-woke" by replacing the gay character with someone straight or whatever, the end product is basically the exact same. Not to mention all the stuff that is "woke" yet really works and is popular, for example, the barbie movie. The videogames and movies on itself are just a bad cashgrab, it's not because it's woke or it isn't woke, it's that it just sucks

Neigdoig wrote:

As an '02 Zoomer, I can say that, based upon what children are seeing nowadays, they're toast. I had seen a good video called "The Tragedy of Generation Alpha" or something like that on YouTube. They're absolutely doomed based upon the circumstances they've been forced into. Plus, how children's videos are edited to be fast paced and mindless entertainment is complete and utter garbage that content farmers love, how they can completely enamor a child with just editing techniques to addict them. It's sad.

i wouldn't say that they are absolutely doomed, but it will really affect them yeah

gen alpha is gen z but worse, as a gen a myself i think the older part of gen a (2010-2016) will probably be ok, but the younger ones will be fucked up by skibidi toilet, gyatt, rizz, ohio, fanum tax, and all this other bullshit. overall, gen a might be good

Patatitta wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

woke culture is a term to really disacredit left-wing ideas, it's mostly a strawman used by far-right americans. Stuff like, "they must keep politics out of films!!!" and politics in this case means passing the bechdel test. Please don't fall for that shit

I wouldn't say that the term woke is only used by the far-right. Yes, there are definitely 40-something year olds out there that cry about a gay character being in their child's cartoon and scream "WOKE!", but there have also been times where companies will sacrifice the quality of their product, sometimes to a large extent, just to be known as based to Twitter users.

In the united states even some left-wing ideas would be considered right wing here, so the right wing ideas are basically far right for me. And I assume you're talking about "forced inclusivity" and all that stuff, but honestly, even if you made it "non-woke" by replacing the gay character with someone straight or whatever, the end product is basically the exact same. Not to mention all the stuff that is "woke" yet really works and is popular, for example, the barbie movie. The videogames and movies on itself are just a bad cashgrab, it's not because it's woke or it isn't woke, it's that it just sucks

Again, that's not what I'm talking about. Being "woke" isn't bad when a show or game just so happens to have a gay or trans character, it's bad when the game or show cares solely on minority representation and hopes that people like it only based on that.

Take last year's Velma for example. Everyone and their grandma was talking about how awful it was. There was a point in time where you couldn't go on YouTube without seeing a review for how bad Velma was. People didn't hate it because they're racist sexists who hate black women starring in games or shows, they hated it because almost every other thing about the show was low-quality.

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

woke culture is a term to really disacredit left-wing ideas, it's mostly a strawman used by far-right americans. Stuff like, "they must keep politics out of films!!!" and politics in this case means passing the bechdel test. Please don't fall for that shit

I wouldn't say that the term woke is only used by the far-right. Yes, there are definitely 40-something year olds out there that cry about a gay character being in their child's cartoon and scream "WOKE!", but there have also been times where companies will sacrifice the quality of their product, sometimes to a large extent, just to be known as based to Twitter users.

In the united states even some left-wing ideas would be considered right wing here, so the right wing ideas are basically far right for me. And I assume you're talking about "forced inclusivity" and all that stuff, but honestly, even if you made it "non-woke" by replacing the gay character with someone straight or whatever, the end product is basically the exact same. Not to mention all the stuff that is "woke" yet really works and is popular, for example, the barbie movie. The videogames and movies on itself are just a bad cashgrab, it's not because it's woke or it isn't woke, it's that it just sucks

Again, that's not what I'm talking about. Being "woke" isn't bad when a show or game just so happens to have a gay or trans character, it's bad when the game or show cares solely on minority representation and hopes that people like it only based on that.

Take last year's Velma for example. Everyone and their grandma was talking about how awful it was. There was a point in time where you couldn't go on YouTube without seeing a review for how bad Velma was. People didn't hate it because they're racist sexists who hate black women starring in games or shows, they hated it because almost every other thing about the show was low-quality.

as you said, velma just sucked, it doesn't matter if it was "woke" or not, it would have sucked anyways. Woke is only something that is present when something sucks. If those same woke elements are in a good movie, then, no one cares, but the moment those elements get into a movie that is bad, how dare they, this is forced representation, it didn't need it (tbh having to justify putting a gay character in is kinda strange on itself). And that is because woke on itself really has no meaning or weight. A show isn't going to be better or worse for making one character black. Woke is just a term used to "own the sjws" or whatever

for another example of woke you have bud light, they once made an advertisement featuring a trans person, and people just tried cancelling bud light for being woke.

how did we ended up talking about velma in a gen alpha thread?

bbbprooooo wrote:

gen alpha is gen z but worse, as a gen a myself i think the older part of gen a (2010-2016) will probably be ok, but the younger ones will be fucked up by skibidi toilet, gyatt, rizz, ohio, fanum tax, and all this other bullshit. overall, gen a might be good

every generation is the previous degeration but worse anyway

Patatitta wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

woke culture is a term to really disacredit left-wing ideas, it's mostly a strawman used by far-right americans. Stuff like, "they must keep politics out of films!!!" and politics in this case means passing the bechdel test. Please don't fall for that shit

I wouldn't say that the term woke is only used by the far-right. Yes, there are definitely 40-something year olds out there that cry about a gay character being in their child's cartoon and scream "WOKE!", but there have also been times where companies will sacrifice the quality of their product, sometimes to a large extent, just to be known as based to Twitter users.

In the united states even some left-wing ideas would be considered right wing here, so the right wing ideas are basically far right for me. And I assume you're talking about "forced inclusivity" and all that stuff, but honestly, even if you made it "non-woke" by replacing the gay character with someone straight or whatever, the end product is basically the exact same. Not to mention all the stuff that is "woke" yet really works and is popular, for example, the barbie movie. The videogames and movies on itself are just a bad cashgrab, it's not because it's woke or it isn't woke, it's that it just sucks

Again, that's not what I'm talking about. Being "woke" isn't bad when a show or game just so happens to have a gay or trans character, it's bad when the game or show cares solely on minority representation and hopes that people like it only based on that.

Take last year's Velma for example. Everyone and their grandma was talking about how awful it was. There was a point in time where you couldn't go on YouTube without seeing a review for how bad Velma was. People didn't hate it because they're racist sexists who hate black women starring in games or shows, they hated it because almost every other thing about the show was low-quality.

as you said, velma just sucked, it doesn't matter if it was "woke" or not, it would have sucked anyways. Woke is only something that is present when something sucks. If those same woke elements are in a good movie, then, no one cares, but the moment those elements get into a movie that is bad, how dare they, this is forced representation, it didn't need it (tbh having to justify putting a gay character in is kinda strange on itself). And that is because woke on itself really has no meaning or weight. A show isn't going to be better or worse for making one character black. Woke is just a term used to "own the sjws" or whatever

for another example of woke you have bud light, they once made an advertisement featuring a trans person, and people just tried cancelling bud light for being woke.

Now that I think about it, I think you're right. I mostly only see the term woke be used unironically by right-wingers when a character in a product just so happens to be gay or trans.

Billy6411 wrote:

In terms of the whole TikTok and chatbots thing, I totally agree that they are dangerous as hell. I know people very close to me who literally cannot watch movies because TikTok has degraded their attention span, which I think is fucked up. Also, some people in my Adv Higher English class cant sit through a 1hr 40min class with a reasonably chill teacher and nice class without getting distracted and complaining about having to analyse like 2 poems a day as if thats bad. It all comes down to attention span degradation, and its terrifying that if we are Gen-Z (most of my year is '06-'07, I'm early '07) then what is it like for the kids in First and Second year while my year is like this in our last, Sixth year of high school. Some people I know in the years below and from just helping at school events I can see there is a larger distaste in the idea of school and education - more troublemakers, more people skipping school often, etc. It seems to be those in late primary school transitioning to high school, roughly P6-S2 have had it the roughest, having hard time being that their first years of high school were primarily in home-learning. I think it's an interesting topic to look at because Covid, TikTok, and things like ChatGPT abuse are rampant factors in play, and that's just looking at the effect on their education. By ChatGPT abuse I mean using it to write entire things for a class. While I've used it here and there for advice, word choice, structure, and such, I have never fully written something using the software while I know people who will just go "write me a 2000 word 4 paragraph essay about ----" and hand it in. They have scanners to try and detect it now but ChatGPT has gotten so good at writing it's own original stuff that its hard to not believe it or catch it when it comes up.

Basically, kids are doomed if nothing happens - their attention span is going to turn into absolutely fuck all, and they're gonna drop out as soon as they can or they're gonna spend 2 mins having a website write important, SQA marked papers for them because why would they put effort into something a bot can do for them.

I'd be happy to answer any questions about being in school in the current situation, ask away if you have any.

(Edit: To justify, I don't use TikTok, and my attention span seemed fine, so I asked people who do use if they feel that is what diminished their attention span. Some were outright honest and said it likely was, but that they will continue using it, while some said it was not a factor even though they admitted the attention span decrease spiked around the time they began using TikTok.)

PEOPLE CANT WATCH MOVIES BC OF ATTENTION SPAN?? we’re actually doomed

[-Omni-] wrote:

Billy6411 wrote:

In terms of the whole TikTok and chatbots thing, I totally agree that they are dangerous as hell. I know people very close to me who literally cannot watch movies because TikTok has degraded their attention span, which I think is fucked up. Also, some people in my Adv Higher English class cant sit through a 1hr 40min class with a reasonably chill teacher and nice class without getting distracted and complaining about having to analyse like 2 poems a day as if thats bad. It all comes down to attention span degradation, and its terrifying that if we are Gen-Z (most of my year is '06-'07, I'm early '07) then what is it like for the kids in First and Second year while my year is like this in our last, Sixth year of high school. Some people I know in the years below and from just helping at school events I can see there is a larger distaste in the idea of school and education - more troublemakers, more people skipping school often, etc. It seems to be those in late primary school transitioning to high school, roughly P6-S2 have had it the roughest, having hard time being that their first years of high school were primarily in home-learning. I think it's an interesting topic to look at because Covid, TikTok, and things like ChatGPT abuse are rampant factors in play, and that's just looking at the effect on their education. By ChatGPT abuse I mean using it to write entire things for a class. While I've used it here and there for advice, word choice, structure, and such, I have never fully written something using the software while I know people who will just go "write me a 2000 word 4 paragraph essay about ----" and hand it in. They have scanners to try and detect it now but ChatGPT has gotten so good at writing it's own original stuff that its hard to not believe it or catch it when it comes up.

Basically, kids are doomed if nothing happens - their attention span is going to turn into absolutely fuck all, and they're gonna drop out as soon as they can or they're gonna spend 2 mins having a website write important, SQA marked papers for them because why would they put effort into something a bot can do for them.

I'd be happy to answer any questions about being in school in the current situation, ask away if you have any.

(Edit: To justify, I don't use TikTok, and my attention span seemed fine, so I asked people who do use if they feel that is what diminished their attention span. Some were outright honest and said it likely was, but that they will continue using it, while some said it was not a factor even though they admitted the attention span decrease spiked around the time they began using TikTok.)

PEOPLE CANT WATCH MOVIES BC OF ATTENTION SPAN?? we’re actually doomed

Imagine if in the next decade people can't even watch a 24 mins anime episode

Rezq Gokou wrote:

[-Omni-] wrote:

Billy6411 wrote:

In terms of the whole TikTok and chatbots thing, I totally agree that they are dangerous as hell. I know people very close to me who literally cannot watch movies because TikTok has degraded their attention span, which I think is fucked up. Also, some people in my Adv Higher English class cant sit through a 1hr 40min class with a reasonably chill teacher and nice class without getting distracted and complaining about having to analyse like 2 poems a day as if thats bad. It all comes down to attention span degradation, and its terrifying that if we are Gen-Z (most of my year is '06-'07, I'm early '07) then what is it like for the kids in First and Second year while my year is like this in our last, Sixth year of high school. Some people I know in the years below and from just helping at school events I can see there is a larger distaste in the idea of school and education - more troublemakers, more people skipping school often, etc. It seems to be those in late primary school transitioning to high school, roughly P6-S2 have had it the roughest, having hard time being that their first years of high school were primarily in home-learning. I think it's an interesting topic to look at because Covid, TikTok, and things like ChatGPT abuse are rampant factors in play, and that's just looking at the effect on their education. By ChatGPT abuse I mean using it to write entire things for a class. While I've used it here and there for advice, word choice, structure, and such, I have never fully written something using the software while I know people who will just go "write me a 2000 word 4 paragraph essay about ----" and hand it in. They have scanners to try and detect it now but ChatGPT has gotten so good at writing it's own original stuff that its hard to not believe it or catch it when it comes up.

Basically, kids are doomed if nothing happens - their attention span is going to turn into absolutely fuck all, and they're gonna drop out as soon as they can or they're gonna spend 2 mins having a website write important, SQA marked papers for them because why would they put effort into something a bot can do for them.

I'd be happy to answer any questions about being in school in the current situation, ask away if you have any.

(Edit: To justify, I don't use TikTok, and my attention span seemed fine, so I asked people who do use if they feel that is what diminished their attention span. Some were outright honest and said it likely was, but that they will continue using it, while some said it was not a factor even though they admitted the attention span decrease spiked around the time they began using TikTok.)

PEOPLE CANT WATCH MOVIES BC OF ATTENTION SPAN?? we’re actually doomed

Imagine if in the next decade people can't even watch a 24 mins anime episode

the one minute tiktoks are too long for them to concentrate on