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Some feedback from what I would consider my intended range of play. Take into account that I don't think I'm particularly good or bad at anything (except jack's, god I suck at those), therefore I don't feel like I'm biased towards certain map types.
Level 04:
I can pass all the songs, there are however 2 that I feel are much harder than the others:
- Pendulum - The Island (MaxNRG Remix) [7K The Island - Insane]
- Tamura Yukari - Fantastic future (TV Size) [7K Liese's LV.24]
Level 05:
I can pass al the songs except, kors k - smooooch [4K MX] the SV changes I find both both random and ridiculous.
Again there are 2 songs that I feel are much harder than the others:
- senya - Utakata, Ai no Mahoroba [LV.28] (I have to ignore half the holds to pass this)
- Aoi Eir - INNOCENCE (TV Size) [Lv.26]
Also this might just be me but KOTOKO - unfinished (TV Size) [7K Burst] Is probably good in here in terms of difficulty, it is however way higher in terms of required stamina, took me an insane amount of attempts to pass (although I can do so now reliably).
Level 06:
Can pass everything except Lin-G - I Want You [7K RD] (insane HP drain) and Tamura Yukari ft motsu from m.o.v.e - You & Me [7k Maximum]. I am however closish to passing both.
On the other hand I feel like there are 4 songs that are absurdly easy compared to others (easier than level 5 songs):
- Yuuna Sasara feat. Tai no Kobone - Imperishable Night 2006 [7K Hard]
- LeaF - MEPHISTO [Roxas' MX]
- TeamGrimoire+Amaneko - croiX [Roxas' MX]
- Ryu* - I'm so Happy [S.Star's 7K EXHAUST Lv.15]
Level 07:
Can pass every thing except KOTOKO - WING OF ZERO [7K Insane], Laura Shigihara - Brainiac Maniac [Xin_U's 7K Insane] and fripSide - future gazer (TV Size) [Rumi's 7K MX]. The 3 of them have very high HP drain, but then again so does pretty much everything on this level.
As for what I can pass, the are 3 songs that I feel are significantly easier than the rest:
- Lite Show Magic - Crack traxxxx [4K EXH] which is not even the hardest diff for me (7K INF being a lot harder).
- xi - Akasha [7K Hard]
- Ryu* - I'm so Happy [4K EXHAUST Lv.15]
Level 08:
Can't pass anything on this level (and I'm not even close to doing it) with one exception: Anamanaguchi - STILL SPLODIN' THO (Interlude) [HanzeR's Insane]. This seems much easier than anything on level 7 or even 6 (except the aforementioned too easy for level 6 songs).
Also, I don't feel like the gap in difficulty between any of the 4k maps in levels 4-7 is very big at all, and they shouldn't be spread more than 1 level apart (2 at most). This said, I'm not very knowledgeable about 4k so take that with a grain of salt.
Level 04:
I can pass all the songs, there are however 2 that I feel are much harder than the others:
- Pendulum - The Island (MaxNRG Remix) [7K The Island - Insane]
- Tamura Yukari - Fantastic future (TV Size) [7K Liese's LV.24]
Level 05:
I can pass al the songs except, kors k - smooooch [4K MX] the SV changes I find both both random and ridiculous.
Again there are 2 songs that I feel are much harder than the others:
- senya - Utakata, Ai no Mahoroba [LV.28] (I have to ignore half the holds to pass this)
- Aoi Eir - INNOCENCE (TV Size) [Lv.26]
Also this might just be me but KOTOKO - unfinished (TV Size) [7K Burst] Is probably good in here in terms of difficulty, it is however way higher in terms of required stamina, took me an insane amount of attempts to pass (although I can do so now reliably).
Level 06:
Can pass everything except Lin-G - I Want You [7K RD] (insane HP drain) and Tamura Yukari ft motsu from m.o.v.e - You & Me [7k Maximum]. I am however closish to passing both.
On the other hand I feel like there are 4 songs that are absurdly easy compared to others (easier than level 5 songs):
- Yuuna Sasara feat. Tai no Kobone - Imperishable Night 2006 [7K Hard]
- LeaF - MEPHISTO [Roxas' MX]
- TeamGrimoire+Amaneko - croiX [Roxas' MX]
- Ryu* - I'm so Happy [S.Star's 7K EXHAUST Lv.15]
Level 07:
Can pass every thing except KOTOKO - WING OF ZERO [7K Insane], Laura Shigihara - Brainiac Maniac [Xin_U's 7K Insane] and fripSide - future gazer (TV Size) [Rumi's 7K MX]. The 3 of them have very high HP drain, but then again so does pretty much everything on this level.
As for what I can pass, the are 3 songs that I feel are significantly easier than the rest:
- Lite Show Magic - Crack traxxxx [4K EXH] which is not even the hardest diff for me (7K INF being a lot harder).
- xi - Akasha [7K Hard]
- Ryu* - I'm so Happy [4K EXHAUST Lv.15]
Level 08:
Can't pass anything on this level (and I'm not even close to doing it) with one exception: Anamanaguchi - STILL SPLODIN' THO (Interlude) [HanzeR's Insane]. This seems much easier than anything on level 7 or even 6 (except the aforementioned too easy for level 6 songs).
Also, I don't feel like the gap in difficulty between any of the 4k maps in levels 4-7 is very big at all, and they shouldn't be spread more than 1 level apart (2 at most). This said, I'm not very knowledgeable about 4k so take that with a grain of salt.
Topic Starter
Thanks for the feedback!
It seems like your idea of difficulty is more oriented towards "how hard is the map to pass", whereas this list is more something like "how hard is this map to play well". Maps like LeaF - MEPHISTO [Roxas' MX] are indeed incredibly easy to pass, but I don't think they're very easy to do a good accurate play on.
This list aims to be more towards rating difficulties of map layout and not of map settings. i.e. a map with a low drain setting will be easier to pass than a map with a harsher drain setting, but it doesn't change the fact that the map itself is harder to play right without having to spam in many parts.
It seems like your idea of difficulty is more oriented towards "how hard is the map to pass", whereas this list is more something like "how hard is this map to play well". Maps like LeaF - MEPHISTO [Roxas' MX] are indeed incredibly easy to pass, but I don't think they're very easy to do a good accurate play on.
This list aims to be more towards rating difficulties of map layout and not of map settings. i.e. a map with a low drain setting will be easier to pass than a map with a harsher drain setting, but it doesn't change the fact that the map itself is harder to play right without having to spam in many parts.
So my next step is Level 10 huh.
God Wintersun, I'm never gonna make it :c.
God Wintersun, I'm never gonna make it :c.
I understand what you are coming from but from the point of view of someone gradually going from one level to next as he manages to pass the maps it doesn't make that much sense. When you can't even play a chart because you just die 20 seconds in or die 3/4ths throuh at 85% accuracy because of the hp drain while you can complete the rest of the songs in the level you have to be left wondering what went wrong.
Regardless of that, I feel my point still stands on some cases, let me ilustrate, I know you'd prefer score, but let me use accuray for simplicity, at the levels I'm exposing it doesn't change much.
LeaF - MEPHISTO [Roxas' MX] - I can do 85%+ accuracy no problem, I've only played it twice. level 6
Yuuna Sasara feat. Tai no Kobone - Imperishable Night 2006 [7K Hard]. ~84% accuray, played it 3 times, level 6
Ryu* - I'm so Happy [S.Star's 7K EXHAUST Lv.15] - played 3 times 84-87.5%, level 6
Pendulum - The Island (MaxNRG Remix) [7K The Island - Insane] - played it and wiped a lot on this, to date my best playthrough is 84.6%, rest are betwen ~81-83% this is level 4
Tamura Yukari - Fantastic future (TV Size) [7K Liese's LV.24] pretty much the same as the last one. but ranges from 78.8-84.2%, level 4 aswell.
senya - Utakata, Ai no Mahoroba [LV.28] - barely scrape 80.6% most are below 80%. Again quite a few plays, level 5
Aoi Eir - INNOCENCE (TV Size) [Lv.26] - have only passed it once, with probably around 10 attempts, 82%, level 5
Lite Show Magic - Crack traxxxx [7K INF]] - have passed this 3 times, probably around 20+ attemts, 77-78%, level 6
Lite Show Magic - Crack traxxxx [4K EXH]] - have passed this 7 times, around 8 or 9 attempts I'd guess?, 80-83%, level 7
Now, this inconsistency is maybe something that only happens at my level of play, and if the list is intended for people who can 98%+ all the songs then my point obviously doesn't stand as I have no way to claim anything one way or the other. However as you are listing from level -1 I can't help but think this isn't the intent.
Regardless of that, I feel my point still stands on some cases, let me ilustrate, I know you'd prefer score, but let me use accuray for simplicity, at the levels I'm exposing it doesn't change much.
LeaF - MEPHISTO [Roxas' MX] - I can do 85%+ accuracy no problem, I've only played it twice. level 6
Yuuna Sasara feat. Tai no Kobone - Imperishable Night 2006 [7K Hard]. ~84% accuray, played it 3 times, level 6
Ryu* - I'm so Happy [S.Star's 7K EXHAUST Lv.15] - played 3 times 84-87.5%, level 6
Pendulum - The Island (MaxNRG Remix) [7K The Island - Insane] - played it and wiped a lot on this, to date my best playthrough is 84.6%, rest are betwen ~81-83% this is level 4
Tamura Yukari - Fantastic future (TV Size) [7K Liese's LV.24] pretty much the same as the last one. but ranges from 78.8-84.2%, level 4 aswell.
senya - Utakata, Ai no Mahoroba [LV.28] - barely scrape 80.6% most are below 80%. Again quite a few plays, level 5
Aoi Eir - INNOCENCE (TV Size) [Lv.26] - have only passed it once, with probably around 10 attempts, 82%, level 5
Lite Show Magic - Crack traxxxx [7K INF]] - have passed this 3 times, probably around 20+ attemts, 77-78%, level 6
Lite Show Magic - Crack traxxxx [4K EXH]] - have passed this 7 times, around 8 or 9 attempts I'd guess?, 80-83%, level 7
Now, this inconsistency is maybe something that only happens at my level of play, and if the list is intended for people who can 98%+ all the songs then my point obviously doesn't stand as I have no way to claim anything one way or the other. However as you are listing from level -1 I can't help but think this isn't the intent.
Topic Starter
Nah I see what you mean man, I'll move some charts around. Points taken; it seems like right now density weighs too low (already received some comments about this from other people).
When should we consider a song "passed" and be ready to move on to the next song on the list? B? A? S?
Damn, I can only make it 2/3 through the very first Level -1 song. I feel pathetic.
Damn, I can only make it 2/3 through the very first Level -1 song. I feel pathetic.
Topic Starter
By all means, if you're just starting out, just go ahead and download all ranked osu!mania maps (there's aren't that many) and play their [Easy]/[Normal] difficulties which should be easy enough for a complete beginner. Once you got at least A on any map, the next time you play it play it with random mod. After about two-three weeks you should already be able to play the stuff in level -1 pretty well. From there, the progression between every two levels is around two weeks of playing if you play an average of 2 hours a day. You should also play maps in higher levels with HT to get used to new patterns quickly.
Don't clinge too much to that improvement rate though. Sadly, everyone naturally improves at different rates at these type of games. You can influence it a bit by doing more effort etc, but it won't make you suddenly learn 5x faster. My point is, what's important is your own improvement, not so much how you compare to others.
Though if you want to do better even though your natural learning rate is not so fast by eg spending more time, be prepared to be called nolifer. Most people only look up to natural talent, I do not think that is right and I have several reasons for it, but a full rant on this mentality is probably not appropriate here.
Though if you want to do better even though your natural learning rate is not so fast by eg spending more time, be prepared to be called nolifer. Most people only look up to natural talent, I do not think that is right and I have several reasons for it, but a full rant on this mentality is probably not appropriate here.
What... if people go no life and become ET they still get all the respect they deserve since it takes years anyways. Where'd you pull that from. :/
Oh my goodness I can only afford to play 30-45 minutes a day at most in college. Guess I'll be taking my sweet time haha! 
Nice list, although I play unranked maps I don't tend to put much effort into them so entozer's list doesn't work too greatly for me. I do feel a bit pathetic failing some of the level 2 songs though. If I could suggest a change it would be that there is one more tier for beginners, there are some very fun songs that I enjoy playing that aren't on this list such as "Gigantic O.T.N Normal"
Those level 12maps are damn scary.
Those level 12maps are damn scary.
Topic Starter
Yeah, a lower tier is currently work in progress. I barely got time now though so you'll see it on the weekend.
Aq0_old
So, that's something like that - https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77719 but for mania?
Seems like it, but tbh it's pretty much up to you to see whether you've "cleared" a level or not. Furthermore, mania is quite different compared to std in the sense that there are many playstyles in which players unvoluntarily specializes, meaning some maps are (sometimes FAR) easier for player A who's good at chords but harder for player B who is used to streams although they both clear the same "level" of map.1-3-3-7 wrote:
So, that's something like that - https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77719 but for mania?
Just taking myself as example : I can easily score an A on ChaiN De/structioN [Another] (Level 8) but have a hard time getting even 87% on Akasha [Hard] (Level 7) just because they don't feature the same kind of patterns.
Or in the same "Level" (i.e. : Level 6) I can S Days of Dash [MX] but rarely get an A on Utakata, Ai no Mahoroba [LV.28].
So yeah this list is pretty much like the one you've linked for std without saying "consider you've reached the next level if you've cleared everything before with an A or S with 93%+". :>
Yeah, because there are so many different skills that patterns can test, there will always be some patterns that are either much easier for you, or much harder. Some people have low endurance, others are unnaturally good at jacks, some are able to sightread speed changes that seem impossible.
I've never liked the idea of picking an arbitrary score value, or accuracy level to consider a "pass"/"clear" on this sort of thing. HP and OD settings here complicate things quite a bit. If you take a map, and make 2 difficulties, one with HP5 and OD5, and another with HP9 OD9, and compare your score/accuracy they will be very different, but that doesn't mean you played the HP9/OD9 one any worse. Creating some sort of score or accuracy requirement and calling it a pass would mean that any maps with a low OD would be easier to get that score, even if the patterns are harder than another map in the same difficulty level with a higher OD (Unless the high OD map also has patterns you find really easy).
I focus on my own scores. When I find a map with has patterns I'm particularly bad at, I take that into account when I look at my scores. I won't expect myself to be able to get the same sort of score i would on a map with patterns that aren't as hard for me even if they're considered to be the same level in some sort of difficulty ranking. As long as I played my hardest, and I feel like the score I got is the best possible score I could manage right now (without grinding replays on the song) I'm happy. Ideally, I want to always get a better score the next time I play something, but I'm very inconsistent, so sometimes it can take me months to beat a score, even if I just beat a whole bunch of my other top scores on other things.
I've never liked the idea of picking an arbitrary score value, or accuracy level to consider a "pass"/"clear" on this sort of thing. HP and OD settings here complicate things quite a bit. If you take a map, and make 2 difficulties, one with HP5 and OD5, and another with HP9 OD9, and compare your score/accuracy they will be very different, but that doesn't mean you played the HP9/OD9 one any worse. Creating some sort of score or accuracy requirement and calling it a pass would mean that any maps with a low OD would be easier to get that score, even if the patterns are harder than another map in the same difficulty level with a higher OD (Unless the high OD map also has patterns you find really easy).
I focus on my own scores. When I find a map with has patterns I'm particularly bad at, I take that into account when I look at my scores. I won't expect myself to be able to get the same sort of score i would on a map with patterns that aren't as hard for me even if they're considered to be the same level in some sort of difficulty ranking. As long as I played my hardest, and I feel like the score I got is the best possible score I could manage right now (without grinding replays on the song) I'm happy. Ideally, I want to always get a better score the next time I play something, but I'm very inconsistent, so sometimes it can take me months to beat a score, even if I just beat a whole bunch of my other top scores on other things.
Topic Starter
This isn't a skill test or a practice map thread or anything like that.
This is osu!mania ranked charts sorted by difficulty.
That's it.
Made an update with the new maps we saw this week~ (total 28 maps (diffs) added)
This is osu!mania ranked charts sorted by difficulty.
That's it.
Made an update with the new maps we saw this week~ (total 28 maps (diffs) added)
Topic Starter
bumpity bump! going to add another batch soon.
do people prefer new maps to be instantly thrown into the mix with old ones or to be put separately for a while before merging?
do people prefer new maps to be instantly thrown into the mix with old ones or to be put separately for a while before merging?
Why not putting new maps with old ones and just add a [NEW] tag next to them ?Aqo wrote:
bumpity bump! going to add another batch soon.
do people prefer new maps to be instantly thrown into the mix with old ones or to be put separately for a while before merging?
^PyaKura wrote:
Why not putting new maps with old ones and just add a [NEW] tag next to them ?
I was also thinking the same thing.
Topic Starter
ok yeah
time to inject more maps
time to inject more maps
I know that feel.PyaKura wrote:
So my next step is Level 10 huh.
God Wintersun, I'm never gonna make it :c.
Can pass all at Level 10 but Wintersun and Koi Yomi Zakura ;w;
I think I would be able to pass the latter on a good day. Still no hope for Wintersun though ;-;.Murako Izuriha wrote:
I know that feel.PyaKura wrote:
So my next step is Level 10 huh.
God Wintersun, I'm never gonna make it :c.
Can pass all at Level 10 but Wintersun and Koi Yomi Zakura ;w;
I also passed IN2K6 7K Insane by pure
Rise_old_1
I started playing Mania today, will follow Aqo's list till I get better, I actually did play some songs from the list and I must say I liked them more then other Mania songs. Very detailed "map" for begginers like myself...
I feel like it is somewhat of a guideline, and can affect how well someone will play in the long run. (in a good way)
I feel like it is somewhat of a guideline, and can affect how well someone will play in the long run. (in a good way)
Is this thread updated?
dennischan wrote:
Is this thread updated?
TL;DR
no
Topic Starter
Here you go an update for the higher tier of charts we have ranked today =>
* Level 00 on this scale is the same as Level 05 on the scale in the main post.
If you feel any chart is rated wrongly I'd like to hear your feedback and would adjust the table accordingly!
Note that this difficulty is sorted by difficulty of scoring and not difficulty of clearing because a
chart can have HP9 and be difficult to clear but easier to play well than a chart with HP7 that is easy to spam
through but hard to actually play correctly. This table aims to represent the actual difficulty of the patterns.
======= [ Level 00 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/299539 Gentle Stick X M2U - Hades in the Heaven [DJPop's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/357271 Owl City - Shooting Star [Hinagi's 7K SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/352664 Ayane - Complex Image [Lv.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/387054 ALTIMA - Fight 4 Real (TV Size) [RC's 7K Lv. 26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687322 penoreri - Everlasting Message [EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/223266 Ci Mei Gui - Wu Xuan Lan [7K FEVER]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/219360 senya - Utakata, Ai no Mahoroba [LV.28]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/254329 MuryokuP - Frozen World [Hard]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/270831 KOTOKO - unfinished (TV Size) [7K Burst]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/339653 RAMM - Wonder Nanda? Kataomoi [Maximum]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/271986 Tamura Yukari - Fantastic future (TV Size) [7K Liese's LV.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/362574 Ayana - freak of nature: start [Freak Out]]
======= [ Level 01 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/361871 sakuzyo - Black Lair [7K Liese's LV.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/465095 Aoi Eir - IGNITE (TV size ver.) [Rumi's 7K LV.26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/523169 LiSA - Rising Hope -TV ver.- [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/315723 Lite Show Magic - Crack traxxxx [7K INF]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/298815 Pendulum - The Island (MaxNRG Remix) [7K The Island - Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/275489 fripSide - fortissimo-from insanity affection- (Short Ver.) [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/256674 Remixed by DJ Command - Mermaid girl -Akiba Koubou MIX- [LV.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/369698 dj TAKA meets DJ YOSHITAKA - Elemental Creation [S.Star's 7K Hyper]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/317041 Ryu* - We're so Happy [KK's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/326968 Harada Hitomi, Kayano Ai & Ogura Yui - Maware! Setsugekka (TV Size) [7K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/357978 S.S.H. - Intersect Thunderbolt-Remix [7K Insane]]
======= [ Level 02 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/705561 Ogura Yui - Baby Sweet Berry Love (Tsukiko chan Maji kawa-E Remix) [Sweet Kawa-E Love]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/564613 alan - Over the clouds -BURST mix- [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/359560 Tsukasa Yatoki - 2A-Attack [Maximum]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/233390 The Quick Brown Fox - Big Money [Saka's HD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687323 penoreri - Everlasting Message [GRAVITY]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320510 Misawa Sachika - Links (TV Size) [MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/420908 Hashimoto Miyuki - Salut.soleil! [Salut.soleil!]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/392616 Sasaki Sayaka - Koi Saku Mirai [7K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/365901 P*Light - Poppin' Shower [IN]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/698743 Tsubaki - Kyun Kyun Tamaran Inaba-tan. [Ichi-tan's Lunatic]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/426032 Sawano Hiroyuki - Blowin' [Hard]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/554277 u's - Snow halation (TV Size) [7K SC]]
======= [ Level 03 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/367647 RAMM ni Haiyoru Tamao-san - Kirai na WaKe Lychee [7K LV.27]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/239841 xi - Akasha [7K Hard]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/655579 Kozato - Tsuki -Yue- [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/335446 Suzuki Konomi - AVENGE WORLD (TV size) [MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/301708 Ryu* - I'm so Happy [S.Star's 7K EXHAUST Lv.15]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/399491 Nami Nakagawa - DON'T CUT [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/550049 Paitan - LEMON SUMMER [7K EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/578595 Hana - Kuukirikigaku Shoujo to Shounen no Uta [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/344013 Memme - China Dress [7K Expert]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/521516 HHH - Ignited Night [Blocko's 7K EXpert]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/257311 KOTOKO - agony (TV Size) [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/468795 Junk - Aihana (Love+ Edit) [S.Star's Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/263105 Tamura Yukari ft motsu from m.o.v.e - You & Me [7k Maximum]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/323956 Mimori Suzuko - Univer Page (TV Size) [richard's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/303311 KOTOKO - WING OF ZERO [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/682169 LiSA - Rally Go Round -TV ver.- [Lenfried's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/244555 Nekomata Master - Far east nightbird [LV.23]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/695196 Mami Kawada - PSI-missing(TV Size) [IN-dex]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/428862 Tokisawa Nao - Analyze [richard's 7K SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/254481 Laura Shigihara - Brainiac Maniac [Xin_U's 7K Insane]]
======= [ Level 04 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320196 Sana - Terekakushi Shishunki [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/515837 A.SAKA - Nanatsu Issenzakura [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/285394 Igorrr - Unpleasant Sonata [[Shi-Ra]'s Hell [SC]]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/332421 sasakure.UK - Atropos (Short Edit) [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/392533 Sharlo - Sleeping Butterfly [Lv.32]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/440833 Rex - Heart of Witch [S.Star's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/266505 TeamGrimoire+Amaneko - croiX [Roxas' MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/524443 Azu - Haryu [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/218060 C-SHOW - Workaholic [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/278050 Aoi Eir - INNOCENCE (TV Size) [Lv.26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/423819 a_hisa - Fairy Dance [Pew's MX]]
======= [ Level 05 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320237 P*Light - TRIGGER*HAPPY [7K INFINITE Lv.26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/414224 DJ Genericname - Dear You [Rumi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/217670 Y&Co. feat. Karin - Sweet Rain [Another]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/666539 D(ABE3) - MANIERA [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/359061 nano feat. MY FIRST STORY - SAVIOR OF SONG (TV Size) [Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/433193 Jeff Williams & Casey Lee Williams - This Will Be the Day [Agka's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/267374 bj.HaLo - Ende [IN]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/364495 Seiryu - Water Horizon [KK's 7K EXTREME]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/272808 Leon Lai - Zhong Ai Qing You (Speed up Version) [7K ProFever]]
======= [ Level 06 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/358831 Dj Mashiro - Prismatic Lollipops [richard's 8K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/284604 fripSide - eternal reality - TV size - [Rumi's 7K Lv.28]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/193131 fripSide - only my railgun (TV Size) [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/245086 MiddleIsland - Piano Concerto No.1 "Scream" [LV.31]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/568463 bbn - Identic Conflict [Birdcage]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/412185 xi - Fiat Lux [EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/464731 MiddleIsland - Achromat [7K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/224688 Wotamin - Gigantic O.T.N [L i a's Mania]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/417467 Nakamura Meiko - Scarlet Faith [PC's Another]]
======= [ Level 07 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/559470 Yooh - FIRE FIRE -DARK BLAZE REMIX- [AL's INFINITE]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/338759 Loos - Koi Yomi Zakura [7K Lv.36]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/217377 C-SHOW - Workaholic [Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/295771 P*Light - TRIGGER*HAPPY [8K EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/387055 ALTIMA - Fight 4 Real (TV Size) [RC's 7K Lv. 32]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/365902 P*Light - Poppin' Shower [MX]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/453646 Junk - Aihana (Love+ Edit) [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/600533 GReeeeN - Shinobi [7K Burst!]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/261515 KOTOKO - agony (TV Size) [Rumi's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/204360 sakuzyo - ChaiN De/structioN (siilento's solid remix) [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/662638 r300k - Energy Flower 3007 [SHD]]
======= [ Level 08 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/498730 YUZU - Hyori Ittai [Usagi's Lv.27]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/378209 dj TAKA - snow storm [richard's 7K Lv.32]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/310799 Ryu* - We're so Happy [richard's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/192564 FamiRockP - Oni Kanojo [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/305675 SHK - Milky Way [SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/543414 TAG - Romancing Layer [Lv.34]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/462733 Amane - Space Time (Amane Hardcore Remix) [7K Lv.40]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/479490 GReeeeN - Shinobi [7K Insanity]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/375820 KOTOKO - Re-Sublimity (TV Size) [Lv.34]]
======= [ Level 09 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/533623 sakuzyo - AXION [Pew's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/351985 fripSide - HesitationSnow [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/256726 Bond - Wintersun (Bobby D'Ambrosio Mix) [7K Winter]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/334950 fripSide - sister's noise (TV Size) [Rumi's Lv.30]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/273455 fripSide - fortissimo -the ultimate crisis- [Crisis]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/349330 kors k - Insane Techniques [5K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/298849 fripSide - future gazer (TV Size) [7K EX]]
======= [ Level 10 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/477041 Ayane - Endless Tears... [CrossOver]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/228210 masaki - Rhythmical Planet [Collab]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/279134 Anamanaguchi - STILL SPLODIN' THO (Interlude) [HanzeR's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/557819 Soleily - Renatus [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/230491 Yooh - Dynasty [Entozer's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/257963 siromaru + cranky - Conflict (Vocaloid Ver.) [Collab]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/342855 REDALiCE Feat. Ayumi Nomiya - Little Star [5K SC [Star.23]]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/302266 fripSide - future gazer (TV Size) [Rumi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/432517 fripSide - black bullet [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/490116 Sharlo & yealina - Kakushigoto [Rumi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/293691 Falcom Sound Team J.D.K. - Phantasmagoria [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/530559 xi - Garyou Tensei [Million's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/282294 Suzaku - Anisakis -somatic mutation type "Forza"- [LV.34]]
======= [ Level 11 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/553820 MiddleIsland - Achromat [7K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/454176 Azu - Haryu [S.Star's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/319886 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Pew's SHD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/326507 Suzuki Konomi - DAYS of DASH (TV Size) [Shi-Ra x Rumi SHD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/392261 Sasaki Sayaka - Koi Saku Mirai [7K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/451993 Azu - Haryu [richard's Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/299038 LeaF - MEPHISTO [Pew's SHD]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/225251 Wotamin - Gigantic O.T.N [Entozer's Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/430351 Junk - Qualia [mia-'s 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/259497 Yuuna Sasara feat. Tai no Kobone - Imperishable Night 2006 [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/235028 Ikareru Kin no Shishi - G59 [Level 36]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320008 Y&Co. - POODLE [7K White Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/322132 iconoclasm - Zirkfied [Ex7ra]]
======= [ Level 12 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/416517 myon - G Free ~ Final Dream [Lunatic]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/620333 orangentle / Yu_Asahina - HAELEQUIN [Jinjin's Dissociative 7K Identity Disorder]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/417910 yanaginagi - Tokohana (TV Size) [17VA's Mania Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/382545 Risk Junk-G - Candy Galy [Ishi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/258212 MuryokuP - Frozen World [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/380142 P*Light - Sakura Reflection (P*Light Slayer Remix) [Rumi's 7K OVERDRIVE Lv.35]]
======= [ Level 13 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/196931 FamiRockP - Oni Kanojo [Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/399215 Nami Nakagawa - DON'T CUT [7K Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/233388 The Quick Brown Fox - Big Money [MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/559471 Yooh - FIRE FIRE -DARK BLAZE REMIX- [GRAVITY]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/667031 D(ABE3) - MANIERA [Collab Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/220960 bj.HaLo - Ende [SHD]]
======= [ Level 14 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/329213 fripSide - sister's noise (TV Size) [Lv.42]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/412186 xi - Fiat Lux [INFINITE]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/442103 Rex - Heart of Witch [Million's 7K SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/519314 sakuzyo - AXION [Ex-ray]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/323070 S.S.H. - Intersect Thunderbolt-Remix [7K Exceed]]
======= [ Level 15 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/421066 Yuyoyuppe - AiAe [Wafles' SHD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/646681 D(ABE3) - MANIERA [Masterpiece]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/361739 dj TAKA meets DJ YOSHITAKA - Elemental Creation [Spy & Luyuja's 8K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/249413 xi - Akasha [8K FEVER]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/249346 Yuuna Sasara feat. Tai no Kobone - Imperishable Night 2006 [7K Lunatic]]
======= [ End ] ==========================================================================
* Level 00 on this scale is the same as Level 05 on the scale in the main post.
If you feel any chart is rated wrongly I'd like to hear your feedback and would adjust the table accordingly!
Note that this difficulty is sorted by difficulty of scoring and not difficulty of clearing because a
chart can have HP9 and be difficult to clear but easier to play well than a chart with HP7 that is easy to spam
through but hard to actually play correctly. This table aims to represent the actual difficulty of the patterns.
======= [ Level 00 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/299539 Gentle Stick X M2U - Hades in the Heaven [DJPop's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/357271 Owl City - Shooting Star [Hinagi's 7K SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/352664 Ayane - Complex Image [Lv.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/387054 ALTIMA - Fight 4 Real (TV Size) [RC's 7K Lv. 26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687322 penoreri - Everlasting Message [EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/223266 Ci Mei Gui - Wu Xuan Lan [7K FEVER]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/219360 senya - Utakata, Ai no Mahoroba [LV.28]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/254329 MuryokuP - Frozen World [Hard]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/270831 KOTOKO - unfinished (TV Size) [7K Burst]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/339653 RAMM - Wonder Nanda? Kataomoi [Maximum]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/271986 Tamura Yukari - Fantastic future (TV Size) [7K Liese's LV.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/362574 Ayana - freak of nature: start [Freak Out]]
======= [ Level 01 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/361871 sakuzyo - Black Lair [7K Liese's LV.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/465095 Aoi Eir - IGNITE (TV size ver.) [Rumi's 7K LV.26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/523169 LiSA - Rising Hope -TV ver.- [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/315723 Lite Show Magic - Crack traxxxx [7K INF]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/298815 Pendulum - The Island (MaxNRG Remix) [7K The Island - Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/275489 fripSide - fortissimo-from insanity affection- (Short Ver.) [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/256674 Remixed by DJ Command - Mermaid girl -Akiba Koubou MIX- [LV.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/369698 dj TAKA meets DJ YOSHITAKA - Elemental Creation [S.Star's 7K Hyper]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/317041 Ryu* - We're so Happy [KK's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/326968 Harada Hitomi, Kayano Ai & Ogura Yui - Maware! Setsugekka (TV Size) [7K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/357978 S.S.H. - Intersect Thunderbolt-Remix [7K Insane]]
======= [ Level 02 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/705561 Ogura Yui - Baby Sweet Berry Love (Tsukiko chan Maji kawa-E Remix) [Sweet Kawa-E Love]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/564613 alan - Over the clouds -BURST mix- [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/359560 Tsukasa Yatoki - 2A-Attack [Maximum]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/233390 The Quick Brown Fox - Big Money [Saka's HD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687323 penoreri - Everlasting Message [GRAVITY]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320510 Misawa Sachika - Links (TV Size) [MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/420908 Hashimoto Miyuki - Salut.soleil! [Salut.soleil!]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/392616 Sasaki Sayaka - Koi Saku Mirai [7K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/365901 P*Light - Poppin' Shower [IN]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/698743 Tsubaki - Kyun Kyun Tamaran Inaba-tan. [Ichi-tan's Lunatic]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/426032 Sawano Hiroyuki - Blowin' [Hard]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/554277 u's - Snow halation (TV Size) [7K SC]]
======= [ Level 03 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/367647 RAMM ni Haiyoru Tamao-san - Kirai na WaKe Lychee [7K LV.27]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/239841 xi - Akasha [7K Hard]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/655579 Kozato - Tsuki -Yue- [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/335446 Suzuki Konomi - AVENGE WORLD (TV size) [MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/301708 Ryu* - I'm so Happy [S.Star's 7K EXHAUST Lv.15]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/399491 Nami Nakagawa - DON'T CUT [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/550049 Paitan - LEMON SUMMER [7K EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/578595 Hana - Kuukirikigaku Shoujo to Shounen no Uta [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/344013 Memme - China Dress [7K Expert]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/521516 HHH - Ignited Night [Blocko's 7K EXpert]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/257311 KOTOKO - agony (TV Size) [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/468795 Junk - Aihana (Love+ Edit) [S.Star's Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/263105 Tamura Yukari ft motsu from m.o.v.e - You & Me [7k Maximum]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/323956 Mimori Suzuko - Univer Page (TV Size) [richard's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/303311 KOTOKO - WING OF ZERO [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/682169 LiSA - Rally Go Round -TV ver.- [Lenfried's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/244555 Nekomata Master - Far east nightbird [LV.23]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/695196 Mami Kawada - PSI-missing(TV Size) [IN-dex]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/428862 Tokisawa Nao - Analyze [richard's 7K SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/254481 Laura Shigihara - Brainiac Maniac [Xin_U's 7K Insane]]
======= [ Level 04 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320196 Sana - Terekakushi Shishunki [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/515837 A.SAKA - Nanatsu Issenzakura [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/285394 Igorrr - Unpleasant Sonata [[Shi-Ra]'s Hell [SC]]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/332421 sasakure.UK - Atropos (Short Edit) [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/392533 Sharlo - Sleeping Butterfly [Lv.32]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/440833 Rex - Heart of Witch [S.Star's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/266505 TeamGrimoire+Amaneko - croiX [Roxas' MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/524443 Azu - Haryu [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/218060 C-SHOW - Workaholic [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/278050 Aoi Eir - INNOCENCE (TV Size) [Lv.26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/423819 a_hisa - Fairy Dance [Pew's MX]]
======= [ Level 05 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320237 P*Light - TRIGGER*HAPPY [7K INFINITE Lv.26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/414224 DJ Genericname - Dear You [Rumi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/217670 Y&Co. feat. Karin - Sweet Rain [Another]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/666539 D(ABE3) - MANIERA [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/359061 nano feat. MY FIRST STORY - SAVIOR OF SONG (TV Size) [Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/433193 Jeff Williams & Casey Lee Williams - This Will Be the Day [Agka's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/267374 bj.HaLo - Ende [IN]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/364495 Seiryu - Water Horizon [KK's 7K EXTREME]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/272808 Leon Lai - Zhong Ai Qing You (Speed up Version) [7K ProFever]]
======= [ Level 06 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/358831 Dj Mashiro - Prismatic Lollipops [richard's 8K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/284604 fripSide - eternal reality - TV size - [Rumi's 7K Lv.28]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/193131 fripSide - only my railgun (TV Size) [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/245086 MiddleIsland - Piano Concerto No.1 "Scream" [LV.31]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/568463 bbn - Identic Conflict [Birdcage]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/412185 xi - Fiat Lux [EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/464731 MiddleIsland - Achromat [7K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/224688 Wotamin - Gigantic O.T.N [L i a's Mania]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/417467 Nakamura Meiko - Scarlet Faith [PC's Another]]
======= [ Level 07 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/559470 Yooh - FIRE FIRE -DARK BLAZE REMIX- [AL's INFINITE]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/338759 Loos - Koi Yomi Zakura [7K Lv.36]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/217377 C-SHOW - Workaholic [Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/295771 P*Light - TRIGGER*HAPPY [8K EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/387055 ALTIMA - Fight 4 Real (TV Size) [RC's 7K Lv. 32]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/365902 P*Light - Poppin' Shower [MX]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/453646 Junk - Aihana (Love+ Edit) [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/600533 GReeeeN - Shinobi [7K Burst!]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/261515 KOTOKO - agony (TV Size) [Rumi's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/204360 sakuzyo - ChaiN De/structioN (siilento's solid remix) [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/662638 r300k - Energy Flower 3007 [SHD]]
======= [ Level 08 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/498730 YUZU - Hyori Ittai [Usagi's Lv.27]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/378209 dj TAKA - snow storm [richard's 7K Lv.32]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/310799 Ryu* - We're so Happy [richard's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/192564 FamiRockP - Oni Kanojo [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/305675 SHK - Milky Way [SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/543414 TAG - Romancing Layer [Lv.34]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/462733 Amane - Space Time (Amane Hardcore Remix) [7K Lv.40]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/479490 GReeeeN - Shinobi [7K Insanity]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/375820 KOTOKO - Re-Sublimity (TV Size) [Lv.34]]
======= [ Level 09 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/533623 sakuzyo - AXION [Pew's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/351985 fripSide - HesitationSnow [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/256726 Bond - Wintersun (Bobby D'Ambrosio Mix) [7K Winter]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/334950 fripSide - sister's noise (TV Size) [Rumi's Lv.30]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/273455 fripSide - fortissimo -the ultimate crisis- [Crisis]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/349330 kors k - Insane Techniques [5K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/298849 fripSide - future gazer (TV Size) [7K EX]]
======= [ Level 10 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/477041 Ayane - Endless Tears... [CrossOver]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/228210 masaki - Rhythmical Planet [Collab]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/279134 Anamanaguchi - STILL SPLODIN' THO (Interlude) [HanzeR's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/557819 Soleily - Renatus [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/230491 Yooh - Dynasty [Entozer's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/257963 siromaru + cranky - Conflict (Vocaloid Ver.) [Collab]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/342855 REDALiCE Feat. Ayumi Nomiya - Little Star [5K SC [Star.23]]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/302266 fripSide - future gazer (TV Size) [Rumi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/432517 fripSide - black bullet [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/490116 Sharlo & yealina - Kakushigoto [Rumi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/293691 Falcom Sound Team J.D.K. - Phantasmagoria [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/530559 xi - Garyou Tensei [Million's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/282294 Suzaku - Anisakis -somatic mutation type "Forza"- [LV.34]]
======= [ Level 11 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/553820 MiddleIsland - Achromat [7K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/454176 Azu - Haryu [S.Star's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/319886 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Pew's SHD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/326507 Suzuki Konomi - DAYS of DASH (TV Size) [Shi-Ra x Rumi SHD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/392261 Sasaki Sayaka - Koi Saku Mirai [7K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/451993 Azu - Haryu [richard's Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/299038 LeaF - MEPHISTO [Pew's SHD]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/225251 Wotamin - Gigantic O.T.N [Entozer's Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/430351 Junk - Qualia [mia-'s 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/259497 Yuuna Sasara feat. Tai no Kobone - Imperishable Night 2006 [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/235028 Ikareru Kin no Shishi - G59 [Level 36]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320008 Y&Co. - POODLE [7K White Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/322132 iconoclasm - Zirkfied [Ex7ra]]
======= [ Level 12 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/416517 myon - G Free ~ Final Dream [Lunatic]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/620333 orangentle / Yu_Asahina - HAELEQUIN [Jinjin's Dissociative 7K Identity Disorder]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/417910 yanaginagi - Tokohana (TV Size) [17VA's Mania Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/382545 Risk Junk-G - Candy Galy [Ishi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/258212 MuryokuP - Frozen World [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/380142 P*Light - Sakura Reflection (P*Light Slayer Remix) [Rumi's 7K OVERDRIVE Lv.35]]
======= [ Level 13 ] =======================================================================
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/196931 FamiRockP - Oni Kanojo [Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/399215 Nami Nakagawa - DON'T CUT [7K Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/233388 The Quick Brown Fox - Big Money [MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/559471 Yooh - FIRE FIRE -DARK BLAZE REMIX- [GRAVITY]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/667031 D(ABE3) - MANIERA [Collab Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/220960 bj.HaLo - Ende [SHD]]
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[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/329213 fripSide - sister's noise (TV Size) [Lv.42]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/412186 xi - Fiat Lux [INFINITE]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/442103 Rex - Heart of Witch [Million's 7K SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/519314 sakuzyo - AXION [Ex-ray]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/323070 S.S.H. - Intersect Thunderbolt-Remix [7K Exceed]]
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[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/421066 Yuyoyuppe - AiAe [Wafles' SHD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/646681 D(ABE3) - MANIERA [Masterpiece]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/361739 dj TAKA meets DJ YOSHITAKA - Elemental Creation [Spy & Luyuja's 8K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/249413 xi - Akasha [8K FEVER]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/249346 Yuuna Sasara feat. Tai no Kobone - Imperishable Night 2006 [7K Lunatic]]
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Curious why AiAe is there since you ignoring all 4K (and 6K) mapsets.
Topic Starter
I actually noticed this myself and didn't bother fixing it because the last folder was too small lol
I don't really get why in2k6 is lower than exceed, exceed is way easier to score on imho (looking at a lot of pepole's scores on both of these maps)
I mean in2k6 is ★★2 for a reason lol
Also final dream should be lower, while in2k6 insane, o.t.n and possibly days of dash should be higher
Ultimate crisis should be lower, it really isn't that hard lol
Hiyori ittai lv.27 should be way lower and lv.25 should be in added 09, it's waaaaaay harder than lv.27
I feel like identic conflict is as hard to score on as shinobi, or even harder (it requires massive amount of control on 1/3 parts and moreso on 1/3 LN parts which can shred your score to pieces)
Maybe elemental 8k should be lower as well? It's either you get 88+ or fail, and with that little scratches it isn't that hard to do
Add https://osu.ppy.sh/s/335072 to 04 or 05 (leaning towards low 5)
Add https://osu.ppy.sh/s/316230 maybe? 01 imo (that stair is ass)
I could prob point out more, but I'm not sure about rest
I mean in2k6 is ★★2 for a reason lol
Also final dream should be lower, while in2k6 insane, o.t.n and possibly days of dash should be higher
Ultimate crisis should be lower, it really isn't that hard lol
Hiyori ittai lv.27 should be way lower and lv.25 should be in added 09, it's waaaaaay harder than lv.27
I feel like identic conflict is as hard to score on as shinobi, or even harder (it requires massive amount of control on 1/3 parts and moreso on 1/3 LN parts which can shred your score to pieces)
Maybe elemental 8k should be lower as well? It's either you get 88+ or fail, and with that little scratches it isn't that hard to do
Add https://osu.ppy.sh/s/335072 to 04 or 05 (leaning towards low 5)
Add https://osu.ppy.sh/s/316230 maybe? 01 imo (that stair is ass)
I could prob point out more, but I'm not sure about rest
I have had an S rank on Identic Conflict, but still not even an S on Shinobi.
IN2K6 should be a level higher
IN2K6 should be a level higher
how tf is IN2006 not lv. 15? Big Money and Fire Fire are definitely not lv. 13 either, they should be 12. I'd move Candy Galy to 13. Frozen World to 11. level 11 is a complete mess imo, how can you have Shuffle Heaven, Koi Saku, Haryu [Extra], IN2006 [Insane], and Zirkfied that low, and yet have Qualia, G59, and Poodle in the same level, when those last three are significantly easier? I'd move Shuffle Heaven to 13, Koi Saku to 13, Haryu to 12, IN2006 to 13, and Zirkfied to 12. I know it's really subjective, but a bunch of these maps feel really out of place. No comment on Koi Yomi being lv.7 because I'm trash at it, but it should be at least moved to 10.
tbh I'd redo over half of the list though ;w;, some of these placings are just silly
tbh I'd redo over half of the list though ;w;, some of these placings are just silly
I can S fiat lux [INFINITE] but i can't even A in2006 [Lunatic] ;;
These should be separated by key mode because some of the most skilled 7k players can't come close to some of the scores that 4k players can get. Same goes for the other way. SR is broken too so don't go by that please.
This thread isn't going by sr and I do believe that apart from aiae there's no 4k maps here lol
I do believe that this is a chart with 7k players only in mind
I do believe that this is a chart with 7k players only in mind
though there are some 8K maps thrown in there as well
Well, maps here are 7+1, so it isn't that diffrent to be honest
Speak for yourself D:
I sort of disagree. The most skilled 7k players can easily get the scores that the most skilled 4k players can get. It's just not the other way around.EtienneXC wrote:
These should be separated by key mode because some of the most skilled 7k players can't come close to some of the scores that 4k players can get. Same goes for the other way. SR is broken too so don't go by that please.
I can play 7K, I suck at 4K.
easilyMinhtam wrote:
I sort of disagree. The most skilled 7k players can easily get the scores that the most skilled 4k players can get. It's just not the other way around.EtienneXC wrote:
These should be separated by key mode because some of the most skilled 7k players can't come close to some of the scores that 4k players can get. Same goes for the other way. SR is broken too so don't go by that please.
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uh yeea no, talking about most skilled players around the top 50 ranking range, there are many exceptions to this case
Nooooooooope.Minhtam wrote:
I sort of disagree. The most skilled 7k players can easily get the scores that the most skilled 4k players can get. It's just not the other way around.EtienneXC wrote:
These should be separated by key mode because some of the most skilled 7k players can't come close to some of the scores that 4k players can get. Same goes for the other way. SR is broken too so don't go by that please.
As a player of both key modes, and with countless experiences with various players of various keys, this is from far to be true.
Ex: let's look at aiae / empress (just before it got disqualified). Most of the top 7K players can't even break 850k / S on these maps.
The only exception I would put to this would be jhlee and maaybe gyp (choyic) / windy, but even gyp and windy are nowhere close to the skills of best 4k players.
And 5K. But surprised that even 6K is ignored.PyaKura wrote:
though there are some 8K maps thrown in there as well
About 4k vs 7k. Obviously its not true that 7k pros can do similar scores to best 4k players. But what I want to say is that 7K pro players have a lot more chances to be close to 4K top players in pretty quick time (but of course not "easily" lol) than 4K pro players want to be close to 7K pro players, because its like different game mode for them and they have to spend a huge amount of time in 7K to get better, lol.
Topic Starter
The bottom line is that different key modes need separate ranking boards and osu is being stupid in putting them together on one. Map-difficulty-wise, you can't objectively put different key mode charts on the same difficulty table.
Well the very fact that this is simply impossible to achieve is part of why the different keymodes should be separated.Redon wrote:
If you were to develop a perfect difficulty algorithm
Topic Starter
There's no such thing as perfect difficulty calculation even within the same key mode. The easiest example is one person who is very good at LNs but bad at density doing better on O2Patterns and another person who is good at density but can't play LNs doing better on BMS patterns, if you took a random mix of bms and o2 charts and gave them levels each person would point out to you that some charts are too easy/hard for their level and vica versa for the other.
Yes, player skill skew perceptions of appropriate skill levels. Especially because skill can cause specific patterns in charts to feel easier/harder than the difficulty system shows them. A purely objective system will never match up with player perception of difficulty because of this. But because every player has their own biases, even a system taking into account the general perception of the community (or a certain subset of the community) will have cases where some players or groups of players will disagree with the system.