PyaKura wrote:

So my next step is Level 10 huh.

God Wintersun, I'm never gonna make it :c.

I know that feel.
Can pass all at Level 10 but Wintersun and Koi Yomi Zakura ;w;

Murako Izuriha wrote:

PyaKura wrote:

So my next step is Level 10 huh.

God Wintersun, I'm never gonna make it :c.

I know that feel.
Can pass all at Level 10 but Wintersun and Koi Yomi Zakura ;w;

I think I would be able to pass the latter on a good day. Still no hope for Wintersun though ;-;.

I also passed IN2K6 7K Insane by pure skill luck. G59 is alright as well (I really get crap score on it though). Gigantic OTN... guess I just need to read the patterns a bit faster and it'll be fine.

I started playing Mania today, will follow Aqo's list till I get better, I actually did play some songs from the list and I must say I liked them more then other Mania songs. Very detailed "map" for begginers like myself...
I feel like it is somewhat of a guideline, and can affect how well someone will play in the long run. (in a good way)

Is this thread updated?

dennischan wrote:

Is this thread updated?

TL;DR

no

Here you go an update for the higher tier of charts we have ranked today =>

* Level 00 on this scale is the same as Level 05 on the scale in the main post.
If you feel any chart is rated wrongly I'd like to hear your feedback and would adjust the table accordingly!
Note that this difficulty is sorted by difficulty of scoring and not difficulty of clearing because a
chart can have HP9 and be difficult to clear but easier to play well than a chart with HP7 that is easy to spam
through but hard to actually play correctly. This table aims to represent the actual difficulty of the patterns.

======= [ Level 00 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/299539 Gentle Stick X M2U - Hades in the Heaven [DJPop's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/357271 Owl City - Shooting Star [Hinagi's 7K SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/352664 Ayane - Complex Image [Lv.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/387054 ALTIMA - Fight 4 Real (TV Size) [RC's 7K Lv. 26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687322 penoreri - Everlasting Message [EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/223266 Ci Mei Gui - Wu Xuan Lan [7K FEVER]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/219360 senya - Utakata, Ai no Mahoroba [LV.28]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/254329 MuryokuP - Frozen World [Hard]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/270831 KOTOKO - unfinished (TV Size) [7K Burst]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/339653 RAMM - Wonder Nanda? Kataomoi [Maximum]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/271986 Tamura Yukari - Fantastic future (TV Size) [7K Liese's LV.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/362574 Ayana - freak of nature: start [Freak Out]]

======= [ Level 01 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/361871 sakuzyo - Black Lair [7K Liese's LV.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/465095 Aoi Eir - IGNITE (TV size ver.) [Rumi's 7K LV.26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/523169 LiSA - Rising Hope -TV ver.- [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/315723 Lite Show Magic - Crack traxxxx [7K INF]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/298815 Pendulum - The Island (MaxNRG Remix) [7K The Island - Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/275489 fripSide - fortissimo-from insanity affection- (Short Ver.) [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/256674 Remixed by DJ Command - Mermaid girl -Akiba Koubou MIX- [LV.24]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/369698 dj TAKA meets DJ YOSHITAKA - Elemental Creation [S.Star's 7K Hyper]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/317041 Ryu* - We're so Happy [KK's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/326968 Harada Hitomi, Kayano Ai & Ogura Yui - Maware! Setsugekka (TV Size) [7K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/357978 S.S.H. - Intersect Thunderbolt-Remix [7K Insane]]

======= [ Level 02 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/705561 Ogura Yui - Baby Sweet Berry Love (Tsukiko chan Maji kawa-E Remix) [Sweet Kawa-E Love]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/564613 alan - Over the clouds -BURST mix- [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/359560 Tsukasa Yatoki - 2A-Attack [Maximum]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/233390 The Quick Brown Fox - Big Money [Saka's HD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687323 penoreri - Everlasting Message [GRAVITY]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320510 Misawa Sachika - Links (TV Size) [MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/420908 Hashimoto Miyuki - Salut.soleil! [Salut.soleil!]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/392616 Sasaki Sayaka - Koi Saku Mirai [7K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/365901 P*Light - Poppin' Shower [IN]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/698743 Tsubaki - Kyun Kyun Tamaran Inaba-tan. [Ichi-tan's Lunatic]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/426032 Sawano Hiroyuki - Blowin' [Hard]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/554277 u's - Snow halation (TV Size) [7K SC]]

======= [ Level 03 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/367647 RAMM ni Haiyoru Tamao-san - Kirai na WaKe Lychee [7K LV.27]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/239841 xi - Akasha [7K Hard]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/655579 Kozato - Tsuki -Yue- [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/335446 Suzuki Konomi - AVENGE WORLD (TV size) [MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/301708 Ryu* - I'm so Happy [S.Star's 7K EXHAUST Lv.15]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/399491 Nami Nakagawa - DON'T CUT [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/550049 Paitan - LEMON SUMMER [7K EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/578595 Hana - Kuukirikigaku Shoujo to Shounen no Uta [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/344013 Memme - China Dress [7K Expert]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/521516 HHH - Ignited Night [Blocko's 7K EXpert]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/257311 KOTOKO - agony (TV Size) [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/468795 Junk - Aihana (Love+ Edit) [S.Star's Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/263105 Tamura Yukari ft motsu from m.o.v.e - You & Me [7k Maximum]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/323956 Mimori Suzuko - Univer Page (TV Size) [richard's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/303311 KOTOKO - WING OF ZERO [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/682169 LiSA - Rally Go Round -TV ver.- [Lenfried's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/244555 Nekomata Master - Far east nightbird [LV.23]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/695196 Mami Kawada - PSI-missing(TV Size) [IN-dex]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/428862 Tokisawa Nao - Analyze [richard's 7K SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/254481 Laura Shigihara - Brainiac Maniac [Xin_U's 7K Insane]]

======= [ Level 04 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320196 Sana - Terekakushi Shishunki [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/515837 A.SAKA - Nanatsu Issenzakura [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/285394 Igorrr - Unpleasant Sonata [[Shi-Ra]'s Hell [SC]]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/332421 sasakure.UK - Atropos (Short Edit) [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/392533 Sharlo - Sleeping Butterfly [Lv.32]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/440833 Rex - Heart of Witch [S.Star's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/266505 TeamGrimoire+Amaneko - croiX [Roxas' MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/524443 Azu - Haryu [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/218060 C-SHOW - Workaholic [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/278050 Aoi Eir - INNOCENCE (TV Size) [Lv.26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/423819 a_hisa - Fairy Dance [Pew's MX]]

======= [ Level 05 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320237 P*Light - TRIGGER*HAPPY [7K INFINITE Lv.26]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/414224 DJ Genericname - Dear You [Rumi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/217670 Y&Co. feat. Karin - Sweet Rain [Another]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/666539 D(ABE3) - MANIERA [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/359061 nano feat. MY FIRST STORY - SAVIOR OF SONG (TV Size) [Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/433193 Jeff Williams & Casey Lee Williams - This Will Be the Day [Agka's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/267374 bj.HaLo - Ende [IN]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/364495 Seiryu - Water Horizon [KK's 7K EXTREME]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/272808 Leon Lai - Zhong Ai Qing You (Speed up Version) [7K ProFever]]

======= [ Level 06 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/358831 Dj Mashiro - Prismatic Lollipops [richard's 8K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/284604 fripSide - eternal reality - TV size - [Rumi's 7K Lv.28]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/193131 fripSide - only my railgun (TV Size) [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/245086 MiddleIsland - Piano Concerto No.1 "Scream" [LV.31]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/568463 bbn - Identic Conflict [Birdcage]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/412185 xi - Fiat Lux [EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/464731 MiddleIsland - Achromat [7K Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/224688 Wotamin - Gigantic O.T.N [L i a's Mania]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/417467 Nakamura Meiko - Scarlet Faith [PC's Another]]

======= [ Level 07 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/559470 Yooh - FIRE FIRE -DARK BLAZE REMIX- [AL's INFINITE]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/338759 Loos - Koi Yomi Zakura [7K Lv.36]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/217377 C-SHOW - Workaholic [Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/295771 P*Light - TRIGGER*HAPPY [8K EXHAUST]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/387055 ALTIMA - Fight 4 Real (TV Size) [RC's 7K Lv. 32]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/365902 P*Light - Poppin' Shower [MX]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/453646 Junk - Aihana (Love+ Edit) [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/600533 GReeeeN - Shinobi [7K Burst!]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/261515 KOTOKO - agony (TV Size) [Rumi's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/204360 sakuzyo - ChaiN De/structioN (siilento's solid remix) [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/662638 r300k - Energy Flower 3007 [SHD]]

======= [ Level 08 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/498730 YUZU - Hyori Ittai [Usagi's Lv.27]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/378209 dj TAKA - snow storm [richard's 7K Lv.32]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/310799 Ryu* - We're so Happy [richard's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/192564 FamiRockP - Oni Kanojo [Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/305675 SHK - Milky Way [SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/543414 TAG - Romancing Layer [Lv.34]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/462733 Amane - Space Time (Amane Hardcore Remix) [7K Lv.40]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/479490 GReeeeN - Shinobi [7K Insanity]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/375820 KOTOKO - Re-Sublimity (TV Size) [Lv.34]]

======= [ Level 09 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/533623 sakuzyo - AXION [Pew's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/351985 fripSide - HesitationSnow [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/256726 Bond - Wintersun (Bobby D'Ambrosio Mix) [7K Winter]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/334950 fripSide - sister's noise (TV Size) [Rumi's Lv.30]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/273455 fripSide - fortissimo -the ultimate crisis- [Crisis]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/349330 kors k - Insane Techniques [5K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/298849 fripSide - future gazer (TV Size) [7K EX]]

======= [ Level 10 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/477041 Ayane - Endless Tears... [CrossOver]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/228210 masaki - Rhythmical Planet [Collab]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/279134 Anamanaguchi - STILL SPLODIN' THO (Interlude) [HanzeR's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/557819 Soleily - Renatus [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/230491 Yooh - Dynasty [Entozer's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/257963 siromaru + cranky - Conflict (Vocaloid Ver.) [Collab]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/342855 REDALiCE Feat. Ayumi Nomiya - Little Star [5K SC [Star.23]]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/302266 fripSide - future gazer (TV Size) [Rumi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/432517 fripSide - black bullet [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/490116 Sharlo & yealina - Kakushigoto [Rumi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/293691 Falcom Sound Team J.D.K. - Phantasmagoria [7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/530559 xi - Garyou Tensei [Million's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/282294 Suzaku - Anisakis -somatic mutation type "Forza"- [LV.34]]

======= [ Level 11 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/553820 MiddleIsland - Achromat [7K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/454176 Azu - Haryu [S.Star's Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/319886 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Pew's SHD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/326507 Suzuki Konomi - DAYS of DASH (TV Size) [Shi-Ra x Rumi SHD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/392261 Sasaki Sayaka - Koi Saku Mirai [7K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/451993 Azu - Haryu [richard's Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/299038 LeaF - MEPHISTO [Pew's SHD]] <osu!mania>
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/225251 Wotamin - Gigantic O.T.N [Entozer's Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/430351 Junk - Qualia [mia-'s 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/259497 Yuuna Sasara feat. Tai no Kobone - Imperishable Night 2006 [7K Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/235028 Ikareru Kin no Shishi - G59 [Level 36]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/320008 Y&Co. - POODLE [7K White Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/322132 iconoclasm - Zirkfied [Ex7ra]]

======= [ Level 12 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/416517 myon - G Free ~ Final Dream [Lunatic]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/620333 orangentle / Yu_Asahina - HAELEQUIN [Jinjin's Dissociative 7K Identity Disorder]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/417910 yanaginagi - Tokohana (TV Size) [17VA's Mania Insane]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/382545 Risk Junk-G - Candy Galy [Ishi's 7K MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/258212 MuryokuP - Frozen World [Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/380142 P*Light - Sakura Reflection (P*Light Slayer Remix) [Rumi's 7K OVERDRIVE Lv.35]]

======= [ Level 13 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/196931 FamiRockP - Oni Kanojo [Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/399215 Nami Nakagawa - DON'T CUT [7K Extra]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/233388 The Quick Brown Fox - Big Money [MX]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/559471 Yooh - FIRE FIRE -DARK BLAZE REMIX- [GRAVITY]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/667031 D(ABE3) - MANIERA [Collab Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/220960 bj.HaLo - Ende [SHD]]

======= [ Level 14 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/329213 fripSide - sister's noise (TV Size) [Lv.42]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/412186 xi - Fiat Lux [INFINITE]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/442103 Rex - Heart of Witch [Million's 7K SC]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/519314 sakuzyo - AXION [Ex-ray]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/323070 S.S.H. - Intersect Thunderbolt-Remix [7K Exceed]]

======= [ Level 15 ] =======================================================================

[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/421066 Yuyoyuppe - AiAe [Wafles' SHD]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/646681 D(ABE3) - MANIERA [Masterpiece]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/361739 dj TAKA meets DJ YOSHITAKA - Elemental Creation [Spy & Luyuja's 8K Black Another]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/249413 xi - Akasha [8K FEVER]]
[ http://osu.ppy.sh/b/249346 Yuuna Sasara feat. Tai no Kobone - Imperishable Night 2006 [7K Lunatic]]

======= [ End ] ==========================================================================

Curious why AiAe is there since you ignoring all 4K (and 6K) mapsets.

I actually noticed this myself and didn't bother fixing it because the last folder was too small lol

I don't really get why in2k6 is lower than exceed, exceed is way easier to score on imho (looking at a lot of pepole's scores on both of these maps)
I mean in2k6 is ★★2 for a reason lol
Also final dream should be lower, while in2k6 insane, o.t.n and possibly days of dash should be higher
Ultimate crisis should be lower, it really isn't that hard lol
Hiyori ittai lv.27 should be way lower and lv.25 should be in added 09, it's waaaaaay harder than lv.27
I feel like identic conflict is as hard to score on as shinobi, or even harder (it requires massive amount of control on 1/3 parts and moreso on 1/3 LN parts which can shred your score to pieces)
Maybe elemental 8k should be lower as well? It's either you get 88+ or fail, and with that little scratches it isn't that hard to do
Add https://osu.ppy.sh/s/335072 to 04 or 05 (leaning towards low 5)
Add https://osu.ppy.sh/s/316230 maybe? 01 imo (that stair is ass)
I could prob point out more, but I'm not sure about rest

I have had an S rank on Identic Conflict, but still not even an S on Shinobi.

IN2K6 should be a level higher

how tf is IN2006 not lv. 15? Big Money and Fire Fire are definitely not lv. 13 either, they should be 12. I'd move Candy Galy to 13. Frozen World to 11. level 11 is a complete mess imo, how can you have Shuffle Heaven, Koi Saku, Haryu [Extra], IN2006 [Insane], and Zirkfied that low, and yet have Qualia, G59, and Poodle in the same level, when those last three are significantly easier? I'd move Shuffle Heaven to 13, Koi Saku to 13, Haryu to 12, IN2006 to 13, and Zirkfied to 12. I know it's really subjective, but a bunch of these maps feel really out of place. No comment on Koi Yomi being lv.7 because I'm trash at it, but it should be at least moved to 10.
tbh I'd redo over half of the list though ;w;, some of these placings are just silly

I can S fiat lux [INFINITE] but i can't even A in2006 [Lunatic] ;;

These should be separated by key mode because some of the most skilled 7k players can't come close to some of the scores that 4k players can get. Same goes for the other way. SR is broken too so don't go by that please.

This thread isn't going by sr and I do believe that apart from aiae there's no 4k maps here lol
I do believe that this is a chart with 7k players only in mind

though there are some 8K maps thrown in there as well

Well, maps here are 7+1, so it isn't that diffrent to be honest

Speak for yourself D:

EtienneXC wrote:

These should be separated by key mode because some of the most skilled 7k players can't come close to some of the scores that 4k players can get. Same goes for the other way. SR is broken too so don't go by that please.

I sort of disagree. The most skilled 7k players can easily get the scores that the most skilled 4k players can get. It's just not the other way around.

I can play 7K, I suck at 4K.

Minhtam wrote:

EtienneXC wrote:

These should be separated by key mode because some of the most skilled 7k players can't come close to some of the scores that 4k players can get. Same goes for the other way. SR is broken too so don't go by that please.

I sort of disagree. The most skilled 7k players can easily get the scores that the most skilled 4k players can get. It's just not the other way around.

easily
easily
easily
easily

uh yeea no, talking about most skilled players around the top 50 ranking range, there are many exceptions to this case

Minhtam wrote:

EtienneXC wrote:

These should be separated by key mode because some of the most skilled 7k players can't come close to some of the scores that 4k players can get. Same goes for the other way. SR is broken too so don't go by that please.

I sort of disagree. The most skilled 7k players can easily get the scores that the most skilled 4k players can get. It's just not the other way around.

Nooooooooope.

As a player of both key modes, and with countless experiences with various players of various keys, this is from far to be true.

Ex: let's look at aiae / empress (just before it got disqualified). Most of the top 7K players can't even break 850k / S on these maps.

The only exception I would put to this would be jhlee and maaybe gyp (choyic) / windy, but even gyp and windy are nowhere close to the skills of best 4k players.

PyaKura wrote:

though there are some 8K maps thrown in there as well

And 5K. But surprised that even 6K is ignored.


About 4k vs 7k. Obviously its not true that 7k pros can do similar scores to best 4k players. But what I want to say is that 7K pro players have a lot more chances to be close to 4K top players in pretty quick time (but of course not "easily" lol) than 4K pro players want to be close to 7K pro players, because its like different game mode for them and they have to spend a huge amount of time in 7K to get better, lol.

The bottom line is that different key modes need separate ranking boards and osu is being stupid in putting them together on one. Map-difficulty-wise, you can't objectively put different key mode charts on the same difficulty table.

‎

Redon wrote:

If you were to develop a perfect difficulty algorithm

Well the very fact that this is simply impossible to achieve is part of why the different keymodes should be separated.

There's no such thing as perfect difficulty calculation even within the same key mode. The easiest example is one person who is very good at LNs but bad at density doing better on O2Patterns and another person who is good at density but can't play LNs doing better on BMS patterns, if you took a random mix of bms and o2 charts and gave them levels each person would point out to you that some charts are too easy/hard for their level and vica versa for the other.

Yes, player skill skew perceptions of appropriate skill levels. Especially because skill can cause specific patterns in charts to feel easier/harder than the difficulty system shows them. A purely objective system will never match up with player perception of difficulty because of this. But because every player has their own biases, even a system taking into account the general perception of the community (or a certain subset of the community) will have cases where some players or groups of players will disagree with the system.

i can only play 4k and -1 is too hard for me
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