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Vote: Tanzklaue
caligno,
i am literally unable of being scum.
you could host a mafia with only mafioso and 1 joke town treestump.
i would be that treestumb. don't make a mistake.
i am literally unable of being scum.
you could host a mafia with only mafioso and 1 joke town treestump.
i would be that treestumb. don't make a mistake.
Your example is pretty much a draw, and nothing to do with this setup imo.
does this remind you of stack the deck where we also 1v1'd?
only that you were obv scum back then so i had a much easier job convincing rantai of your scumminess.
this basically boils down to the question: would i with my townread on setsuen risk him being a vig and being dumb with it? that was my thoughtprocess, and i didn't want him to have that vigshot.
my read on him was mostly because he plays incredibly bad, and in my eyes his post was that of a very unexperienced noobtown. i read him town before his dumb comment about other games (for which i in a normal game would push forward a policy lynch), before you think i based my read off of that. that said, CB's argumentation was stronger (obviously, he is effing CB), therefore i wasn't 100% sure on setsuen. i would've rather lynched CB because if he is scum he definately is the strongest out of us. if he is town then... well he is the strongest out of us and he would've gotten confirmmed with that vigshot. basically, in any case, lynching setsuen was worse than lynching CB.
only that you were obv scum back then so i had a much easier job convincing rantai of your scumminess.
this basically boils down to the question: would i with my townread on setsuen risk him being a vig and being dumb with it? that was my thoughtprocess, and i didn't want him to have that vigshot.
my read on him was mostly because he plays incredibly bad, and in my eyes his post was that of a very unexperienced noobtown. i read him town before his dumb comment about other games (for which i in a normal game would push forward a policy lynch), before you think i based my read off of that. that said, CB's argumentation was stronger (obviously, he is effing CB), therefore i wasn't 100% sure on setsuen. i would've rather lynched CB because if he is scum he definately is the strongest out of us. if he is town then... well he is the strongest out of us and he would've gotten confirmmed with that vigshot. basically, in any case, lynching setsuen was worse than lynching CB.
Lynching CB would've been the same or a bit more risky, Setsuen was going to end dead anyways, and I really doubt Setsuen would derphammer Caligno, unless Caligno hammered himself (I don't doubt about this one but still). I didn't even doubt his towniness because Setsuen was already shouting scum. I'd prefer to get a townie confirmed, though Setsuen made an obvious move, than leaving a minimal possibility of shooting a townie, and you were pretty much rushing for it.
then explain to me:
why should i push CB if I am scum and he is town? so he gets confirmed easily and get the vig shot?
also, why would pushing CB be more risky? he would've ended up a confirmed townie, setsuen probably would've been shot by him and we would've have 0 risk of setsuen going random townieshooting.
also, you said i was rsuhing for things? your very first post was a hammer, that's as rushy as it gets.
why should i push CB if I am scum and he is town? so he gets confirmed easily and get the vig shot?
also, why would pushing CB be more risky? he would've ended up a confirmed townie, setsuen probably would've been shot by him and we would've have 0 risk of setsuen going random townieshooting.
also, you said i was rsuhing for things? your very first post was a hammer, that's as rushy as it gets.
You pushed CB because you had no other option after reading Setsuen as town, and I had said nothing at that time.
My very first post being a hammer means nothing as there was already enough information in the thread.
My very first post being a hammer means nothing as there was already enough information in the thread.
if you look back, CB hadn't said anything at that point either.
Well, I concede that one, was that a gambit then?
i think i already explained in lenghth why CB was the safest lynch to make
well, I'm about to go to bed. speak now or remain silent forever (or one night 
)
)aaaand I'm gone
Ugggh
Tanzklaue's post-hammer post is slimy as shit but I can't shake the feeling that Dake's hammer post is forced as all hell.
I need to think more about this.
Tanzklaue's post-hammer post is slimy as shit but I can't shake the feeling that Dake's hammer post is forced as all hell.
I need to think more about this.
I trust you /o/
Topic Starter
Votecount 2.1
DakeDekaane (L-1): Tanzklaue
Tanzklaue (L-1): DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane (L-1): Tanzklaue
Tanzklaue (L-1): DakeDekaane
I slept on it and let the thoughts settle in my head. The conclusion I came to is that my gut is generally right with things like this and I should trust it.
Vote: DakeDekaane
Here's hoping my reads were spot on.
Vote: DakeDekaane
Here's hoping my reads were spot on.
gut readings are op man
Topic Starter
Votecount 2.2]/b]
[b]DakeDekaane (Lynch): Tanzklaue | CalignoBot
Tanzklaue (L-1): DakeDekaane
DD FLIPPED MAFIA GOON
Town wins!
[b]DakeDekaane (Lynch): Tanzklaue | CalignoBot
Tanzklaue (L-1): DakeDekaane
DD FLIPPED MAFIA GOON
Town wins!
i really should've hammered setsuen, just so DD doesn't get to speak at all :/
also why confirm CB, confirming me would've probably had a higher chance of success.
also why confirm CB, confirming me would've probably had a higher chance of success.
If i had known this game would've been during the weekend i would have in'd, but hey!
i facepalmed so hard when i read this that my face still hurtsSetsuen wrote:
Vote:Setsuen
Yes I'm taking a huge risk. But I'm pretty sure the person who hammers me WILL be a scum. So it's win-win. I get lynched, Vig shot CB, and then lynch off the hammerer. You can do NOTHING about this if you're scum CB. Too bad.
Quick enough for you Tanz? If DD is scum he'll probably hammer and we''ll win then.
also still perfect townie history throughout i think something like 10 games? +/-2
i lost many games. i meant that i still never was scum.
and btw you're all bad players
you had to keep setsuen alive because he was the obvscum there
you had to keep setsuen alive because he was the obvscum there
No. See my play at this setup, there was 1 obvscum and I was losing because I didn't vig shot him.Sephibro wrote:
and btw you're all bad players
you had to keep setsuen alive because he was the obvscum there
because you're bad
you keep the obvscum alive to make the game 100% win
you keep the obvscum alive to make the game 100% win
and then you lose because you lynch a townie who shoots the other townie.Sephibro wrote:
because you're bad
you keep the obvscum alive to make the game 100% win
not lynching scum is dangerous, rather lynch obv scum than lynching a townie who doesn't know what he should do.
exactly the reason why i wanted CB "lynched", whether he was scum or not, it would've been a great lynch.
really, town just wants to end day 1 as fast as possible in this set up. my major missplay was to not follow through with this strategy by hammering setsuen.
arriving at d2 without enough information is the worst thing
I originally thought Tanzklaue's post-hammer post was obvtown, but thinking about it made me less and less sure.
i'm always obv town, just trust me
nuuuuuuuu, gg.
Actually, speedlynching Setsuen would put you as #1 scum instead me Tanz, and confirming you would be like wtf, Caligno was strong as townie, so I'd be fucked easily.
Actually, speedlynching Setsuen would put you as #1 scum instead me Tanz, and confirming you would be like wtf, Caligno was strong as townie, so I'd be fucked easily.
That really contradicts:Tanzklaue wrote:
i really should've hammered setsuen, just so DD doesn't get to speak at all :/
also why confirm CB, confirming me would've probably had a higher chance of success.
Tanzklaue wrote:
oh man...
in case that setsuen is scum, CB is my townread, so yea.
I wonder what you would have done if I conf Tanz instead lol. Say that CB & me were bussing? =PDakeDekaane wrote:
nuuuuuuuu, gg.
Actually, speedlynching Setsuen would put you as #1 scum instead me Tanz, and confirming you would be like wtf, Caligno was strong as townie, so I'd be fucked easily.
Also since the game is over: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/TcfeHfkHXxr8
you may not know it, but i am easily confusable and easily manipulated. CB is much better overall, so making him the guy who has to judge makes the random factor go away.
though yea, not hammering was smarter after some reconsideration. i also didn't want to hammer in case that DD is town, and in case that he has things to say.
though yea, not hammering was smarter after some reconsideration. i also didn't want to hammer in case that DD is town, and in case that he has things to say.
also people still saying that i am a good townie...
i am not good at finding scum, only at surviving and 1vs1-ing (arguably worth more this game), but else i am really not that good.
i am not good at finding scum, only at surviving and 1vs1-ing (arguably worth more this game), but else i am really not that good.
I'm good at showing what my alignment is :/
It's rare that I play a game as town where I'm not obvtown at some point or a game as scum where I'm not obvscum at some point.
It's rare that I play a game as town where I'm not obvtown at some point or a game as scum where I'm not obvscum at some point.
well, you are one of the best town players i know.CalignoBot wrote:
I'm good at showing what my alignment is :/
It's rare that I play a game as town where I'm not obvtown at some point or a game as scum where I'm not obvscum at some point.
given that i don't know too many, but still.
Not totally all my fault that I confirmed CB.Tanzklaue wrote:
you may not know it, but i am easily confusable and easily manipulated. CB is much better overall, so making him the guy who has to judge makes the random factor go away.
though yea, not hammering was smarter after some reconsideration. i also didn't want to hammer in case that DD is town, and in case that he has things to say.
That screamed confirm CB @.@DakeDekaane wrote:
Hi guys.
I don't like how Setsuen is playing, voting himself like nothing is happening, adding the townread Tanz gave him gives goosebumps.
And Caligno is obvtown, so game is pretty much solved.
Vote: Setsuen
Nah, I would've confirmed Caligno too. I literally had nothing prepared against Caligno lol
Guys, I saw somebody's face around here. Wonder who is its owner.
What?????????? @.@CTs-Th wrote:
Guys, I saw somebody's face around here. Wonder who is its owner.
I need to find its owner quickly. Somebody "loses his face" around here.
y'know, it's a pun. Ignore it if you want. ._.
y'know, it's a pun. Ignore it if you want. ._.
Anyway, I'm sorry if that pun hurts your feeling.
(I'm good at bad pun, tho.)
(I'm good at bad pun, tho.)
I understood the pun, I just don't understand who you're talking about.