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We Need a Fifth - SPEED! (Town Wins)

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Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

CalignoBot wrote:

Setsuen is scum. Tanz can go either way so far. I'll wait until the 4th gets here to decide for sure.

Vote: Setsuen

How am I scum? I didn't even vote yet because I don't want scums to hammer(if DD is town) <.< Seriously if I get "lynched" I'm going to vig shot you. You're acting very scummy <.<

Tanzklaue wrote:

1. don't speak about other games. really, don't.
2. your read is shit, you can't literally tell if anyone is scum or not from nothing.
3. you are town, so we won. congrats.

also,

Vote: Calignobot which way do you both want to go, vig shot or by mafialynch with confim?
1.GIF PMed me about that already <.<
2.Well there wasn't ANY other info to base my reads on <.< that and I DIDN'T VOTE YET =.=
3.So you're the other town? Doesn't that mean DD+CB= Scum? Could explain why CB is attacking me so harshly =.=
Of course you could be lying and saying that you're town so that scums will win in a 2v1. <.<

Note:CB you jolly well know how Paranoid I am. Reading me as scum BECAUSE I'm acting paranoid just makes you seem scummier because I am practically always paranoid on D1 =.= so give a better reason than that. Unless you're a scum who's just trying to lynch me off.
I have already stated why I haven't voted yet <.< going to farm more information out before I decide.

Right now huge FOS on Caligno <.< You just love to start a 1v1 with me don't you?
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Yep. Not voting immediately is exactly why you're scum.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Don't worry, I'll figure out who your partner is once Dake gets here. Then you can try lynching me if you want. It just won't do you any good.
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
there is no reason not to vote scum. quickhammers have basically no effect.

your reasonings and argumentations are still bad btw.your read is virtually useless because nothing pregame accounts to the game itself. CB attacking you is the natural reaction for CB because CB just knows that i wouldn't want to attack my townread, especially if it is you.

basically my goal is to get down to the 2v1 as quick as possible because that's the only information we can get without just talking and accusing each other of being scum.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

CalignoBot wrote:

Yep. Not voting immediately is exactly why you're scum.
What kind of reason is that? =.= You're just finding fault with EVERYTHING I do <.< I can random vote. But I WON'T vote for someone unless I have some real suspicion on them. Since DD haven't posted I don't want to vote for him yet. You should know how I play by now CB. Seriously <.<



CalignoBot wrote:

Don't worry, I'll figure out who your partner is once Dake gets here. Then you can try lynching me if you want. It just won't do you any good.
It will if you're scum. if you are,you basically have to conf one of the town and I'm pretty sure you'll conf me instead of the other town. I'm pretty sure deep down(if you're scum) you know why



Tanzklaue wrote:

there is no reason not to vote scum. quickhammers have basically no effect.

your reasonings and argumentations are still bad btw.your read is virtually useless because nothing pregame accounts to the game itself. CB attacking you is the natural reaction for CB because CB just knows that i wouldn't want to attack my townread, especially if it is you.

basically my goal is to get down to the 2v1 as quick as possible because that's the only information we can get without just talking and accusing each other of being scum.
1.I'm pretty sure CB just naturally like to attack me. He just loves starting wall wars with me(Prove me wrong if you can) <.<
2.My arguments are probably bad because I have practically no information yet. How can I argue about anything efficiently if there's so little info?
3.I suggest that you attack me. You know, just in case CB thinks you're scum because of that :roll:
4.I'm fine with being lynched if it gives me a chance of vig shooting CB <.<

Vote:Setsuen
Yes I'm taking a huge risk. But I'm pretty sure the person who hammers me WILL be a scum. So it's win-win. I get lynched, Vig shot CB, and then lynch off the hammerer. You can do NOTHING about this if you're scum CB. Too bad.
Quick enough for you Tanz? If DD is scum he'll probably hammer and we''ll win then.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Votecount 1.1

Setsuen (L-1): CalignoBot, Setsuen
CalignoBot (L-2): Tanzklaue
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
let me get this straight.

you won't vote without having real suspicions, then you vote yourself?

and then you go on about how the guy who quickhammers you is scum and you will hunt them down. why would scum quickhammer then? why would anyone quickhamer and basically decide the loss of his own faction?

you really should start playing with more thought.

i really rather lynch CB, so vote him please ok?
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Tanzklaue wrote:

let me get this straight.

you won't vote without having real suspicions, then you vote yourself?

and then you go on about how the guy who quickhammers you is scum and you will hunt them down. why would scum quickhammer then? why would anyone quickhamer and basically decide the loss of his own faction?

you really should start playing with more thought.

i really rather lynch CB, so vote him please ok?
1.I love to vote for myself to prove a point. Just ask CB. He ought to know. I'm also the kind of person who would Unvote after sometime if someone hint that out. Just ask CB <.<

2.I'm just basically trying to make scum fall into a BAD situation. Lynch me and completely lose the game or avert attention to someone else which will prove that their next target IS a town, which then the two townie can counterwagon the two scums. Either way, Scum loses. I have nothing to lose by getting lynched at all.

I might vote for CB once DD joins in the "conversation" There's no real way to know who is scummier if DD doesn't join in.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
omg Setsuen is like... obvscum
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki

Setsuen wrote:

Also GIF, what are the chances of being Town 3freaking times in a row seriously? =.=
Statements like this are really dangerous btw. Don't say things like this.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Hi guys.

I don't like how Setsuen is playing, voting himself like nothing is happening, adding the townread Tanz gave him gives goosebumps.
And Caligno is obvtown, so game is pretty much solved.
Vote: Setsuen
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
oh man...

in case that setsuen is scum, CB is my townread, so yea.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
:roll:
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Votecount 1.2

Setsuen (Lynch): CalignoBot, Setsuen, DakeDekaane
CalignoBot (L-2): Tanzklaue

SPEEDLYNCH!
THAT'S THE SPIRIT!
CAPS LOCK SPAM FJGIEHFUWJFISI

SETSUNE WAS MAFIA GOON!

Setsune,

PM me a townie's name to confirm.
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GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
CalignoBot is now confirmed town.

Day 2 starts. Deadline is in 48 hours.
With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
Vote: DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Vote: Tanzklaue
pls
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
oops

Vote: Tanzklaue
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
caligno,

i am literally unable of being scum.

you could host a mafia with only mafioso and 1 joke town treestump.

i would be that treestumb. don't make a mistake.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Your example is pretty much a draw, and nothing to do with this setup imo.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
oh boy
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Leaning Dake right now. What say you Dake?
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
does this remind you of stack the deck where we also 1v1'd?

only that you were obv scum back then so i had a much easier job convincing rantai of your scumminess.

this basically boils down to the question: would i with my townread on setsuen risk him being a vig and being dumb with it? that was my thoughtprocess, and i didn't want him to have that vigshot.
my read on him was mostly because he plays incredibly bad, and in my eyes his post was that of a very unexperienced noobtown. i read him town before his dumb comment about other games (for which i in a normal game would push forward a policy lynch), before you think i based my read off of that. that said, CB's argumentation was stronger (obviously, he is effing CB), therefore i wasn't 100% sure on setsuen. i would've rather lynched CB because if he is scum he definately is the strongest out of us. if he is town then... well he is the strongest out of us and he would've gotten confirmmed with that vigshot. basically, in any case, lynching setsuen was worse than lynching CB.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Lynching CB would've been the same or a bit more risky, Setsuen was going to end dead anyways, and I really doubt Setsuen would derphammer Caligno, unless Caligno hammered himself (I don't doubt about this one but still). I didn't even doubt his towniness because Setsuen was already shouting scum. I'd prefer to get a townie confirmed, though Setsuen made an obvious move, than leaving a minimal possibility of shooting a townie, and you were pretty much rushing for it.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
then explain to me:

why should i push CB if I am scum and he is town? so he gets confirmed easily and get the vig shot?
also, why would pushing CB be more risky? he would've ended up a confirmed townie, setsuen probably would've been shot by him and we would've have 0 risk of setsuen going random townieshooting.

also, you said i was rsuhing for things? your very first post was a hammer, that's as rushy as it gets.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
You pushed CB because you had no other option after reading Setsuen as town, and I had said nothing at that time.

My very first post being a hammer means nothing as there was already enough information in the thread.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
if you look back, CB hadn't said anything at that point either.

:)
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Well, I concede that one, was that a gambit then?
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
i think i already explained in lenghth why CB was the safest lynch to make
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
well, I'm about to go to bed. speak now or remain silent forever (or one night :P)
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
aaaand I'm gone
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Ugggh

Tanzklaue's post-hammer post is slimy as shit but I can't shake the feeling that Dake's hammer post is forced as all hell.

I need to think more about this.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
I trust you /o/
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Votecount 2.1

DakeDekaane (L-1): Tanzklaue
Tanzklaue (L-1): DakeDekaane
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
I slept on it and let the thoughts settle in my head. The conclusion I came to is that my gut is generally right with things like this and I should trust it.

Vote: DakeDekaane

Here's hoping my reads were spot on.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
gut readings are op man
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Votecount 2.2]/b]

[b]DakeDekaane (Lynch): Tanzklaue | CalignoBot
Tanzklaue (L-1): DakeDekaane

DD FLIPPED MAFIA GOON

Town wins!
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
i really should've hammered setsuen, just so DD doesn't get to speak at all :/

also why confirm CB, confirming me would've probably had a higher chance of success.
Sakura
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Sakura
If i had known this game would've been during the weekend i would have in'd, but hey!
Sephibro
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Sephibro

Setsuen wrote:

Vote:Setsuen
Yes I'm taking a huge risk. But I'm pretty sure the person who hammers me WILL be a scum. So it's win-win. I get lynched, Vig shot CB, and then lynch off the hammerer. You can do NOTHING about this if you're scum CB. Too bad.
Quick enough for you Tanz? If DD is scum he'll probably hammer and we''ll win then.
i facepalmed so hard when i read this that my face still hurts
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
also still perfect townie history throughout i think something like 10 games? +/-2
Sephibro
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Sephibro
you lost the unusual mechanics one
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
i lost many games. i meant that i still never was scum.
Sephibro
512 posts
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Sephibro
and btw you're all bad players

you had to keep setsuen alive because he was the obvscum there
Lincolm
258 posts
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Lincolm

Sephibro wrote:

and btw you're all bad players

you had to keep setsuen alive because he was the obvscum there
No. See my play at this setup, there was 1 obvscum and I was losing because I didn't vig shot him.
Sephibro
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Sephibro
because you're bad

you keep the obvscum alive to make the game 100% win
Lincolm
258 posts
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Lincolm
....

that's hypocrite of you.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue

Sephibro wrote:

because you're bad

you keep the obvscum alive to make the game 100% win
and then you lose because you lynch a townie who shoots the other townie.

not lynching scum is dangerous, rather lynch obv scum than lynching a townie who doesn't know what he should do.

exactly the reason why i wanted CB "lynched", whether he was scum or not, it would've been a great lynch.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
really, town just wants to end day 1 as fast as possible in this set up. my major missplay was to not follow through with this strategy by hammering setsuen.
Sephibro
512 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro
nope
Sephibro
512 posts
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Sephibro
arriving at d2 without enough information is the worst thing
Amianki
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Amianki
I originally thought Tanzklaue's post-hammer post was obvtown, but thinking about it made me less and less sure.
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
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Tanzklaue
i'm always obv town, just trust me :P
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
nuuuuuuuu, gg.

Actually, speedlynching Setsuen would put you as #1 scum instead me Tanz, and confirming you would be like wtf, Caligno was strong as townie, so I'd be fucked easily.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Tanzklaue wrote:

i really should've hammered setsuen, just so DD doesn't get to speak at all :/

also why confirm CB, confirming me would've probably had a higher chance of success.
That really contradicts:

Tanzklaue wrote:

oh man...

in case that setsuen is scum, CB is my townread, so yea.


DakeDekaane wrote:

nuuuuuuuu, gg.

Actually, speedlynching Setsuen would put you as #1 scum instead me Tanz, and confirming you would be like wtf, Caligno was strong as townie, so I'd be fucked easily.
I wonder what you would have done if I conf Tanz instead lol. Say that CB & me were bussing? =P
Also since the game is over: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/TcfeHfkHXxr8
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
you may not know it, but i am easily confusable and easily manipulated. CB is much better overall, so making him the guy who has to judge makes the random factor go away.

though yea, not hammering was smarter after some reconsideration. i also didn't want to hammer in case that DD is town, and in case that he has things to say.
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
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Tanzklaue
also people still saying that i am a good townie...

i am not good at finding scum, only at surviving and 1vs1-ing (arguably worth more this game), but else i am really not that good.
Amianki
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Joined January 2011
Amianki
I'm good at showing what my alignment is :/

It's rare that I play a game as town where I'm not obvtown at some point or a game as scum where I'm not obvscum at some point.
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
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Tanzklaue

CalignoBot wrote:

I'm good at showing what my alignment is :/

It's rare that I play a game as town where I'm not obvtown at some point or a game as scum where I'm not obvscum at some point.
well, you are one of the best town players i know.

given that i don't know too many, but still.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Tanzklaue wrote:

you may not know it, but i am easily confusable and easily manipulated. CB is much better overall, so making him the guy who has to judge makes the random factor go away.

though yea, not hammering was smarter after some reconsideration. i also didn't want to hammer in case that DD is town, and in case that he has things to say.
Not totally all my fault that I confirmed CB. :(

DakeDekaane wrote:

Hi guys.

I don't like how Setsuen is playing, voting himself like nothing is happening, adding the townread Tanz gave him gives goosebumps.
And Caligno is obvtown, so game is pretty much solved.
Vote: Setsuen
That screamed confirm CB @.@
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Nah, I would've confirmed Caligno too. I literally had nothing prepared against Caligno lol
Chamelo
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Chamelo
Guys, I saw somebody's face around here. Wonder who is its owner.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

CTs-Th wrote:

Guys, I saw somebody's face around here. Wonder who is its owner.
What?????????? @.@
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
I need to find its owner quickly. Somebody "loses his face" around here.

y'know, it's a pun. Ignore it if you want. ._.
Chamelo
432 posts
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Chamelo
Anyway, I'm sorry if that pun hurts your feeling.

(I'm good at bad pun, tho.)
Amianki
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Joined January 2011
Amianki
I understood the pun, I just don't understand who you're talking about.
Chamelo
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Chamelo

Setsuen wrote:

I'm going to vig shot you. You're acting very scummy <.<
SETSUNE WAS MAFIA GOON!
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